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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick did an interview with CBS News as well,

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Speaker 1: and he was asked a question about where he met

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Speaker 1: his twenty four year old girlfriend. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: good this audio is going to sound, but Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: is seventy two years old. He has got a twenty

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Speaker 1: four year old girlfriend. He is the head coach. Belichick

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Speaker 1: is right now of the University of North Carolina tar Heels,

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Speaker 1: So imagine, I know we got a big audience in

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Speaker 1: North Carolina. He's in a Navy sweatshirt. I believe his

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Speaker 1: dad was the coach at Navy. I bet the sweatshirt

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Speaker 1: is older than his girlfriend. And this is what it

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Speaker 1: sounded like when the reporter asked where they met. From

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Speaker 1: off camera, Bill Belichick's girlfriend decides to interrupt.

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Speaker 3: This is cut fifteen.

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Speaker 2: The other change for Belichick is twenty four year old

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Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson, his creative muse as he writes in his book,

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Speaker 2: make Sure That's the Jordan was a constant presence during

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Speaker 2: our interview.

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Speaker 3: You have Jordan right over there.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.

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Speaker 2: They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.

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Speaker 2: How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 4: Never been too worried about what everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, just to try to do what I feel like

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Speaker 2: is that's for me and what's right? How did you

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Speaker 2: guys meet not talking about this? No, no, it's a topic.

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Speaker 2: Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So twenty four year old girlfriend just jumps right

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Speaker 1: into the interview.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So you got Joy Reid on the Roman Empire, buck,

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Speaker 1: You've got CBS sixty minutes, and then you have the

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Speaker 1: Belichick girlfriend on the scale of crazy cringe? How would

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Speaker 1: you assess the trio of interviews or commentary there? Because

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Speaker 1: I got my ranking on crazy cringe? How would you

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Speaker 1: what is the craziest cringiest of those three?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get Joy read the Bill Belichick? What was

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Speaker 3: the other one?

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Speaker 1: Sixty minutes saying like, hey, our guy resigned because you

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Speaker 1: no longer have the freedom to do a show that's

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Speaker 1: a gimme, that's pretty standard for sixty minutes stuff. I

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Speaker 1: would say, for me, the Bill Belichick thing is even

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Speaker 1: cringier than Joy Reid on the Roman Empire.

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Speaker 3: You know, I will say this. I think that people.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed this more that there are people that have

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Speaker 1: started to try to police age gap among consenting adults

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Speaker 1: in a way that I think is weird and kind

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Speaker 1: of and pretty annoying. You know, people say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's fifteen years older than her, or it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, she's thirty, he's forty five, or he's fifty

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Speaker 1: and she's you know, or she's you know, fifty and

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Speaker 1: he's fifteen years younger, fifteen years old or whatever it

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Speaker 1: may be. But but I mean, it's it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's not your thing, but people try to make

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Speaker 1: it seem like there's something wrong with that. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's really that's obtuse, Like there's nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 1: Like you may not agree with it, you may not

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Speaker 1: want that in your own life, you may not want

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, but there's nothing you know, people try to

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Speaker 3: The law should get involved.

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Speaker 1: Almost right, you start to see this this creepying Oh

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Speaker 1: Would be me or you Mary or not marrying whatever,

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Speaker 1: It's like that Saturday One great skit they did for

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live did a few years ago. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that I've got three boys. You now have a son.

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Speaker 1: If I had a daughter and she brought home a

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Speaker 1: and that's weird that she's interrupting the interview and all

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Speaker 1: these things. Imagine what it's like at Thanksgiving when you

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, who probably is a decade or fifteen years

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Speaker 1: just and I don't understand where this relationship goes because

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Speaker 3: We're giving we're giving a lot of leeway here, but God.

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Speaker 1: I am saying Cupid's arrow has struck her in the

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Speaker 1: loves more seventy four year old Bill Belichick. In a decade,

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Speaker 1: Belichick is going to be eighty four and she's going

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Speaker 1: to be thirty four. Basically, where does this math make

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Speaker 1: Like? Most men don't live to be eighty four. Where

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand that it's a simple math equation

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Speaker 1: that I find it hard to even on your point,

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of you listening are living

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Speaker 1: people in their fifties and sixties today are active, healthy

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Speaker 1: some point your eyebrows raise. I'm not sure where the

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Speaker 1: So most guys who get married that I know are

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Speaker 1: I actually my friend Eric, who you met, the Eric Wynn,

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Speaker 1: again not my thing, but like you know, true love

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Speaker 3: Fifty years is weird. This is where we're drawing.

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Speaker 1: This is where we're drawing the line, fifty year age difference.

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Speaker 1: something that people feel passionately about, age differences between married

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Speaker 6: It's great. And actually we're not at twenty seven yet.

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Speaker 6: We're coming up on the twenty seventh anniversary.

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Speaker 6: We were married in nineteen ninety eight. I was twenty six,

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Speaker 6: Actually I was nineteen. We didn't get married till I

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Speaker 1: No, Becky is a shrewd, A shrewd lady. Congrats on

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Speaker 1: You have been married for thirteen years. You say you

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Speaker 4: Okay, whichever one of you worked for the CIA loved this.

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Speaker 1: So you have I like, how like how with can

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Speaker 1: I say? I like how we're we're like all in

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Speaker 4: It has been. But you know, everybody has their their

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a great to be clear, sir, this

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Speaker 1: We've got thank you, We've got two more. This one

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Speaker 1: Is he the reigning champion at what was that? Thirty

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Speaker 1: And then we've got multiple people with thirty year age gaps.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, Alan, she is thirty, she's twenty three. That's nothing,

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Speaker 1: of Florida man Craig thirty four years older than his wife. Craig,

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Speaker 7: Let's see, well, I'm seventy now, so it was what

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Speaker 7: about fifty seven? Fifty eight?

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Speaker 3: Okay? And your wife was how old when you married her?

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Speaker 4: How old were you?

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Speaker 7: Honey? She's listening on the radio and she's hiding. She's

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Speaker 3: Oh there we go. Goodness, all right, there we go.

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Speaker 1: I won't ask you, Clay. You know, some ladies just

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Speaker 1: Okay, and we got it. Melanie in Houston has called in.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great. It's good to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: I was forty one.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well see like this and now I'm gonna like.

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Speaker 3: So you're I also sa at the age.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You are who you are, and so that doesn't you know?

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Speaker 1: So I think that that's interesting that you know, it's

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Speaker 3: You know, that's pretty prominent. That's really what do you

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Speaker 5: He served twenty four years in the Air Force, and

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: And it's a we love hearing these lovely stories about

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Speaker 3: We'll come back. We'll do uh some more of some

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Speaker 1: Talking about the Bill Belichick, it's fifty right, he's like

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Speaker 1: It is the craziest thing I've ever seen. They start

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Speaker 1: As I asked, I mean, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: I I mean, let's be honest. Clay is is a

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Speaker 3: Or how does he know what? You know?

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