WEBVTT - Round 3 in Philly | The Beatdown Podcast | Washington Commanders | NFL 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.680 What is that? What's going on, y'all? This is another 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.400 episode of the Beatdown podcast and we're back. We are here. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.479 We have survived in at least another week because the 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:25.079 Washington Commanders have advanced to the conference championship for the 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.600 first time since the nineteen ninety one season. And how 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.000 about that win, right, a forty five to thirty one 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:35.040 victory over the Detroit Lions. Is just I remember sitting 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.480 there just listening to the broadcast and thinking, oh my god, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.480 this is actually going to happen, because you always want 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.600 something like this to happen, right, You always vision and 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.199 vision whenever you work in sports, or whether you're like 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.159 me or you're somebody else, you always want to be 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:51.080 able to go to a championship game. And still don't 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.880 know if it's really it really hit me yet because 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.560 I've been working for this team's going on my six 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.160 years now and we haven't really gotten close. This is 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.120 the first time I've been to playoff games is twenty 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.759 twenty longest I've been working this intensely for a season. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.200 But here we are, and it's one of those pincherrself 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:12.080 ones because it truly is, truly is magical and They're 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.880 going to have a three match, if you will, against 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.440 the Philadelphia Eagles for a ticket to the Super Bowl 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.759 in New Orleans against the the AFC champion. And surprise, surprise, 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:26.520 this Eagles team is still as dominant as they were 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.679 the first two times that they played the Commanders. Jalen 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.880 Carter is phenomenal. Taekwon Barkley has since rushed for two 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.160 thousand and five yards in a season. Jalen hurts good, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.240 but we'll maybe he's a little bit injured there. We'll see. 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:41.960 We'll see what he's got going on for the rest 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.560 of the week. And how are the Commanders going to 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.120 do this? How are they going to advantage to a 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.040 Super Bowl for the first time since ninety one and 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.360 the first time in dan Quinn's regime. Well, that is 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.880 exactly what we're going to be talking about today and 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:58.840 with when we have Wander Marrow from the Spanish broadcast one. 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.200 How you doing doing good? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.320 Doing good? This? As excited as you are? Man Championship week? 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.680 Oh okay through the roof Cloud nine, still am. And 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.720 on the other side of this, we have Alcoholty. You 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.760 can find him on the Alghaloty podcast out high You. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.520 Doing doing well, super pumped, amazing that we are here. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.440 But here we are, and let the good times continue, guys. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.880 Yes, let the good times keep on rolling. And guys 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.440 listening to this, they know the deal by now. They've 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:33.760 listen to this for better part of four months. Now, debates, questions, points, winners, losers. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.680 I get to decide who the winner is. With all 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.840 that being said, let's just jump right into it here, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.799 and I think we have to start with this Philadelphia 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:46.399 Eagles defense, specifically one guy, Jalen Carter, because, my god, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.040 as I mentioned at the top of the show, he 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:52.120 has just been a dominant force up front this year. Definitely, 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.000 if he's not top of the top defensive tackle in 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:56.919 the league, he's definitely top two or three. This guy 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.600 has been a mauler. He has just been this. He's 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.519 been the same player in the postseason as he has 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:05.200 been in the regular season. Right he has seven tackles, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:10.480 two sacks to sixteen sack yards loss, two tackles for loss, twas, 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.399 two bass breakups, had a forced fumble he had last 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.360 week against the Los Angeles Rams. And he's going to 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.239 be a problem for this for this Washington Commanders offense. 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:23.120 That is gonna be without Sam Cosmy as he had 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.560 an ACL injury against the Lions and he will be 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.400 out for the remainder of the playoffs. Is going to 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.400 be again, it's going to be I think one of 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.240 the one of the top priorities, if not the top 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.960 priority to get a final answer for him. So one, 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.080 we shall start with you, what do you do with 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:40.840 this guy? Like, what do you do with Davin Carter? 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.160 Especially if you're down you're starting right guard heading into 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.600 this NFC Championship matchup. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.640 Well, I think the first thing you have to do 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.480 is get hands on him. Don't hold him. I get 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.000 your hands on and get your shoulder pads on him. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.960 Don't let him have a free run like he did 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.680 to basically kill the game for the Rams last week 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.840 and on that last minute drive that the Rams were 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.760 I mean a lot of success on he single handedly 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.880 killed the game right there. He had freedom run because 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.880 of a confusion on the offensive line. I think that's 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.880 what you know, Dan Quinn and the offensive coaches need 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.119 to make focus here on this game is no mistakes, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.360 no mistakes on the line. Make sure you know your 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.920 assignment and always know where ninety eight is at. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.320 Yeah, I think that's definitely the case. And again, even 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.599 if you know where he's at, he's he's really hard 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.560 to stop because he's got such quick canes, he's got 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.960 such quick feed. He's a powerful dude. He's got a 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.880 rare blend of skills here and the quarter of PFF 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.560 you know, regular in postseason, he's the fourth highest graded 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:44.159 pass rusher for his position. He has sixty five total pressures, 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:47.760 seven sacks. I mean, he's got fifteen his forty three hurries. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.080 I mean this, this dude is such a big presence 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.120 in the past game and I think you know, Jaydon 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.760 Jane Dannis has proven he can make a guy miss. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.719 But again, Jalen Carter has just been He's been a 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.919 big challenge for the for any interior off at the 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.280 line that he's gone up against. And I'll go over 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.400 you next and we save question. I mean, if you're 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.320 Cliff Kingsbury, if you're Jaden Daniels, and you're all this 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.560 guy at all the guys in this this oppensive meeting 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.560 room trying to figure out how you stop Jalen Carter, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:15.600 what are you doing? 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.000 Yeah, so I don't think you stop Jalen Carter. I 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.920 think you survive Jalen Carter as best as you can. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.320 I mean, Cliff Kingsbury has said it. Now that Aaron 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.479 Donald is retired, Carter may well be the single best 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.520 interior defensive lineman in the NFL. We saw the at 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.039 least somewhat surprising tactic of Trent Scott put in place 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.840 of Cosme during the winning at the Lions, but you 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.520 know that was an in game thing. I really do wonder, 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.839 with a week to prepare, if we see another path 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.479 taken and to me and you know it's always tricky 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.040 with offensive line play, but just outside looking in, what 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.680 you always want to do is get your five best 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:55.320 offensive linemen on the field. In theory, you could do 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.080 that if you shifted Andrew Willie from right tackle to 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:01.479 right guard and to put Cornelia's luck is at right tackle. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.640 Wiley has played guard. I don't know that that necessarily 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.599 is where he is at his best, but generally speaking, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.280 guard is easier than tackle. So if a guy can 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.960 do reasonably well at tackle, he should be able to 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:18.239 do at least reasonably well at guard. I would think 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.240 that that's on the table now. We don't know what 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.240 you know, Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn are necessarily thinking here, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.480 But I think it starts with coming up with, Okay, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.400 what is our best setup when it comes to starting 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.600 front five for this game, and then you go from there, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.760 because look, even if Cosmy was healthy, I mean, Cosmey 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.920 had issues with Jalen Carter, like he's a really tough matchup. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.560 So I think you got to figure out, Okay, what 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.920 is our best way to make up for Cosmy being out? Personally, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.920 I would do Wiley at guard, Lucas at tackle, and 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.839 then you go from there and you hope for the best, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.080 but it's not easy. Carter is a force. The Eagles 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.680 defense has been tremendous this season. The Commanders know that, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:02.760 and this is probably the same biggest concern for Washington 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.400 in this game, handling that mighty interior of the Eagles 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.040 defensive line. Given that caused me is out. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.640 Yeah, it really, it really is. And again, really tough 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.400 for cose Me to see him go out like that, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.760 because I mean, that's one of the biggest fears as 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.960 an off the lineman because you're getting rolled up from 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.560 the back like that. There's really nothing you can do 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.400 about except it's move your feet, and even then it's 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.880 kind of a little bit of a gamble. But you 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.560 mentioned you mentioned the difference between garden tackle, and I 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.520 mean you are right. I mean, gard in some ways 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.200 is definitely a little bit easier than tackle. But uh, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.400 you know, I think you know, Trent Scott or Andrew Walla, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.480 do you have the size, I think the girth to 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.120 to be able to handle that position swap because you 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.800 need to be wide up. But you also have really 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.080 quick feed, the ability to pull, and you be able 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.280 to dig out those nose guards. You got those three 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.400 techniques and work on those combos up to the second level. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.160 I think Andrew Willy and Tren Scott do have that ability. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.000 But you mentioned Trent Squatt, and I think he did 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:56.720 do well for what he was given. You know, for 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.480 what it's worth, he did have the best pastors in 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.200 great cording to PFF, among all of Washington's off of 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.120 the lineman. After that game, so one, you know, al 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.119 brings up the prospect of maybe maybe moving Andrew Willie 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.720 over to guard, putting Cornelis who was the right tackle. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.760 I mean, what would you what would you do between 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.760 those two between you know what that first proposition also 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.160 just letting Trent s God, just state that guard position 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:20.160 is letting it roll there. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.160 I mean, we don't see the practices, right, we don't 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:25.360 see what they're doing every day. I mean, they have 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.840 an active Chris Paul for most of the year, but 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.160 we've seen that he's actually handled guard pretty well at time. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.600 I don't know if that's an option that's on the 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:38.880 table as well. Moving Andrew Wiley to the inside might 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.760 be might be probably the best move, because you're right, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.120 we want to put Lucas on the field. He's played 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.880 both sides of the line at tackle, and you need 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.319 your best offensive lineman. I think Al has a point. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.360 You want your best five out there. And you know, 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 I think that Andrew has done a great job at 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.319 right tackle, but it's not anything that you know, you'd say, oh, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.360 it's a spectacular You're you're gonna miss, you know, something 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.360 super out there on the outside. So I think Cornelius 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.440 Lucas stepping in for him on the right side and 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.080 maybe Wiley on the inside it might be a good combination. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:15.199 Yeah, I think it might be. And again, this is 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.280 one of those things that Cliff d Q, they're not 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.959 going to tell us. This is one of those things 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:21.600 that we're not going to see in the open portion 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.040 of practice there if they if that is the decision 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:26.440 they go, they're going to tweak that and and play 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.560 with that as best they can. And I think it 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 is very key that, you know, you do have Corniscus 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.560 who has played very well at tackle whenever he's been 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.480 put in there, and also that experience of guard with Wiley. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.800 It just seems like that would be a good option. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.160 But again, I think I think Trend has shown that 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.880 he can at least do some something in the run game, 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.200 just straight up against against some guys that granted, Dylan 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.679 Carter is a different kind of guy compared to what 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.560 they were seeing with the Lions, I think that he 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.760 can at least maybe handles on it if he gets 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.280 some chip held and he gets some help from the 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.960 set from tallabadish or or Andrew Wiley up their tackle. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.880 But al before we move on to the next question, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.240 I want to ask you, like in terms of establishing 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.120 this run game against I guess a really really good 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.920 you know, deep in the front with the Eagles. I mean, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.559 obviously Jaen card is gonna pay big role in that, 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.600 but like, what else can they do to replicate the one 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.200 hundred and eighty two yards that they had against the Lions, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.000 because I think that was a really big point in 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.360 keeping the town possession and keeping that offense churning while 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:24.040 they were able to establish some points. Yeah, that was massive. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.520 I mean, it's funny the Commanders have won seven consecutive games, 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.760 but that was the best the rushing offense in terms 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.920 of running backs had been since the first game of 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.920 that winning streak to win over the Titans. I mean, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.360 throughout the winning streak, the rushing offense had not been 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.000 that good. Dan Quinn has been pretty you know, blunt 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.800 about that. So a lot of what the Commanders did 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.360 in the win at the Lions in terms of the 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.400 rushing offense was spread the Lions out. The RPO game 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.439 really opened things up, and that allowed for the Commanders 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.520 to do which I always want to do, which is 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.560 run against light boxes. The problem with the Eagles is, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.120 first of all, their defense is not nearly as banged 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.400 up as the Lions defense. Second of all, the Eagles 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.960 defense is a lot better than the Lions defense. And 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.840 third of all, there ain't nothing light about those Eagles boxes. 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.680 Well mighty Jalen Carter in the middle, So it's gonna 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.120 be a tall task to run the ball as well 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.400 as the Commanders did this past Saturday night, this coming 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.240 Sunday afternoon. Now, that doesn't mean that that can't happen. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.480 You know, It's funny I mentioned that game against the Titans. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.199 One of the things that gets forgotten about that game. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.640 The Titans went into that game with one of the 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.120 best run defenses in the NFL, and the Commanders ran 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.920 the ball down the throat of the Titans. So, you know, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.160 we can talk about stats and matchups all we want. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.400 Sometimes it's just about, hey, how you perform on that day. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.120 So I'm not dismissing any possibility, but I do think 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.360 we have to be realistic here. I mean, even when 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.800 the Commanders beat the Eagles about a month ago. Now, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.520 it's not like the Commanders ran the ball exceptlutely well 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.600 in that game, Like that was a Jade and Daniel 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.640 specialty that was airing the ball out. And I think 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.560 when it comes to offensive success, that's a lot of 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.440 what you're going to have to be looking at. Doesn't 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.520 mean that you give up on the running game, but 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.960 I think that we do have to be mindful of 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:04.280 what happened last Saturday night, Is it necessarily what's gonna 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:05.839 be happening in this Sunday afternoon. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.240 No, that's that's absolutely true. And I think you know, 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.960 it's gonna come down to how much they really trust 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.120 the run game, because they they run the ball forty 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.640 two times against the Lions, and that's that'd be great 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.280 if they were able to do that. I don't know 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.280 if they're going to be able to do so, especially 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.640 with me the kind of path, kind of passer that 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.000 that Jaden is, and also considering what happened with Kenyon 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.280 on Mitchell, I think that could be an golden opportunity 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.640 for them to establish a good presence through the passing 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.360 game and maybe that'll set up the run game. I 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.880 think it also b Rob continues to improve the way 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.280 he did against the Lions. I think that's a good 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.760 positive sign here. We will move on to the next question. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.320 But score update here, you guys are tied heading into this. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:46.719 Really good points made by both guys, and we're to 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.120 move on to the second question here, which will gonna 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.080 be the have the Commanders defense deals with Jailen Hurts. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.840 We've been mentioning this a couple of times. He Jalen 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.880 Hurts did come out a little hobbled in that game, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:58.560 and Nix, you're on to say, we'll see how the 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.160 week goes. You know, I think it was Jalen Hurts 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.920 who's sat out of the game. Look, I finished the game. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.839 That's all that really matters. At this point, he seems 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:06.560 like he's gonna be ready to go, And just from 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.720 a competitor standpoint, I would be very shocked if he 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.360 didn't go out there and play, because this is a 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:12.760 you never know when you're going to get back out 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.600 of this opportunity again, even when you're a talented team 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.080 is the Eagles. But he really has not put up 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.520 solid numbers of the passer this year. Nine of his 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.240 nine games through nine games this year, he throw for 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.680 fewer than two hundred yards. And also it just seems 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.480 like whenever you put the ball in his hands more 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.000 often than not, that's kind of the way that you 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.640 beat the Eagles, as weird as that sounds. If you 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.200 if you make him become a passer, it makes it 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.079 a lot harder for him to do things. So all 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 will start with you here, and I want to ask you, like, 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.080 what's the best way that this secondary and this defense 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.200 can take advantage of Jalen hurts deficiencies as a passer 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.679 because again hasn't really done what you would want from 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.920 from an offense as just talent wise stacked as that 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.160 group is. Yeah, it's been an ideal. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.840 I mean the Eagles, of course two and zero postseason, 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.720 but you look at their total net yards passing in 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.199 each game, just a buck twenty one in the win 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.880 over the Packers, just sixty five in the win over 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.240 the Rams. Hurts sacks seven times in that game, didn't 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.959 miss an offensive snap, but got fitted for a knee 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.400 brace on his left knee during the game. So he's 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.440 not one hundred percent now you know, like how much 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.440 less than one hundred percent he is? Who the heck knows, 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.680 But like he clearly is not one hundred percent. If 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.400 you see the sack on which he suffered the safety, 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.360 I mean, he did not look like the Jalen Hurts 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.600 who we have come to know. You know, it's an 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.880 ideal with Hurts because I don't think he's a bad quarterback, 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.800 but I think the last year or two has kind 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.040 of shown us he's maybe not as good as it 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:44.160 was looking like he might be. Given the restricted mobility. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.800 Given that the Eagles passing offense right now is not hummin'. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.720 I think this is a pressure situation. Some of the 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.240 especially like sim pressures from the Rams in the last game, 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.520 really gave Hurt some problems. I think that might be 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.480 a way to go if you're Joe Wit junior. You know, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.160 Joe Whit does like to blitz a decent amount. Obviously 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.200 there's always risk in doing that, but I think you 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.080 can get to Hurts here. I mean the guy again, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.440 seven sacks he took in that game against the Rams. 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:13.560 That's that's a very significant number. And when it comes 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.440 to the other aspect of the Eagles offense, Saquon Barkley, Look, 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.880 he's gonna get his to at least some degree, especially 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.000 with how this Commander's run defense has been this season. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.040 And again, you've got to be realistic about things. If 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.640 you shut Saquon down, awesome, but you know, are you 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.840 counting on that? So I think the path to defensive 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.720 success here is can you do a good job against 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.680 this Eagles passing offense. I think that you can, especially 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.680 if Hertz is in fact ailing. I would like to 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.520 think that Marshawn Lattimore in this game will be better 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.400 than he was in that last game against the Eagles. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.320 I was a tough spot for Latimore coming off the 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.480 hamstring being tasked with AJ Brown. I thought Latimore was 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.960 better in the win at the Lions, and I look 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.040 for him to continue to do well. Mikey sand was 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.320 still is doing really well. Kwan Martin's doing really well. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.240 So I think the Commander's secondary is in a good place. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.320 Noah igbanagany, I don't think he gets enough credit, So secondary, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.400 I think is in a good place. Firts does not 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.640 appear to be in a good place. This is the 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.880 defensive matchup for the Commanders that actually way well break 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:10.520 in their favor. 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.440 Yeah, I mean you mentioned Saquon, and like the struct 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.680 of the question, because I mean, the key to the 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.600 key to this game at all, it is the stopping Saquon. 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.200 If you do that, it's great. But nobody has done 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.600 that all year. So it's it's more like, Okay, tackle him, great, 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.800 that's fantastic if you can do it. Nobody really has 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.040 been able to do so. But one will switch over 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.760 to you here and the same sort of question, but 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.320 I want to also just kind of focus on the 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:37.080 secondary here. Because it brings up you know, Latimore, Ignogny, Sammer. Still, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.000 all those guys have really seemed to come into their 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.800 own recently, especially with Latimore. Seemed like in that that 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.840 lines game, he really don't play that one size was 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.320 moving around. So what do you what do you see 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.440 out of that out of that group there, and how 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.280 can they do their job to affect Jalen Hurst's options 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:53.840 heading into heading into Sunday. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:55.720 Yeah, I mean that's what I was going to say 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.600 that you know, in the first few games with Latimore, 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.040 you know, you had them following the the number one 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.360 receiver all over the field, and I think over these 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.560 last couple of games where you've just given him at 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.240 least at the second half of the Tampa game, uh 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.240 and versus the Lions, he played half the field and 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.240 he did well. He did very good. He did very good. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:18.080 You know, you saw them testing out Sanders still, golf 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.639 tested sander Is still quite a few times, and Sander 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.560 still came through. So I think the key is our 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:30.040 pass rush and al mentioned it seven sacks. A lot 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.159 of those weren't Hurts to be honest, a lot of 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.560 those is not on this offensive line. The offensive line 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.280 is a great offensive line. But if you confuse hurts, 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:39.439 if you if you give him looks that he doesn't like, 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:41.520 he doesn't like to throw turn off, he doesn't like 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.240 to risk throwing interceptions. So you got you have to 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.920 get to him. You have to make sure that you're 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.360 giving them different looks and confusing him. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:50.080 Uh. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.400 You know, I prefer more coverage than than blitzing him 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.199 because he if you know he's hurt, you got you 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.719 gotta see this injury report the next couple of days. 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:00.600 If you know he's hurt, he's not gonna run, So 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:02.960 there's no threat of him running. So I feel like 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:04.760 you just need to play the coverage and make sure 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.440 that you're confusing him. 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.639 Yeah, and I think, you know, the pass rushing against 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.520 his offensive line is so interesting because to my to 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.720 my eye, the Eagles have the best offensive line of 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.080 the game. Uh. They they're they're full of all Pro 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.000 They're full of Pro Bowlers. I mean, they're these are 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.960 guys that they have homegrown, talent, driven guys are I mean, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:25.879 they're the best of their craft in a lot of 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:30.120 different ways. So you mentioned bringing the simulated pressures, and 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.000 I mean, do you think that's that's enough to get 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.159 passes off of the line to put pressure on Jailing 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.199