1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What is that? What's going on, y'all? This is another 2 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: episode of the Beatdown podcast and we're back. We are here. 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: We have survived in at least another week because the 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders have advanced to the conference championship for the 5 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: first time since the nineteen ninety one season. And how 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: about that win, right, a forty five to thirty one 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: victory over the Detroit Lions. Is just I remember sitting 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 1: there just listening to the broadcast and thinking, oh my god, 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: this is actually going to happen, because you always want 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: something like this to happen, right, You always vision and 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: vision whenever you work in sports, or whether you're like 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: me or you're somebody else, you always want to be 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: able to go to a championship game. And still don't 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: know if it's really it really hit me yet because 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: I've been working for this team's going on my six 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: years now and we haven't really gotten close. This is 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the first time I've been to playoff games is twenty 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: twenty longest I've been working this intensely for a season. 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: But here we are, and it's one of those pincherrself 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: ones because it truly is, truly is magical and They're 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: going to have a three match, if you will, against 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles for a ticket to the Super Bowl 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: in New Orleans against the the AFC champion. And surprise, surprise, 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: this Eagles team is still as dominant as they were 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: the first two times that they played the Commanders. Jalen 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Carter is phenomenal. Taekwon Barkley has since rushed for two 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: thousand and five yards in a season. Jalen hurts good, 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: but we'll maybe he's a little bit injured there. We'll see. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: We'll see what he's got going on for the rest 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: of the week. And how are the Commanders going to 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: do this? How are they going to advantage to a 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl for the first time since ninety one and 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: the first time in dan Quinn's regime. Well, that is 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: exactly what we're going to be talking about today and 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: with when we have Wander Marrow from the Spanish broadcast one. 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: How you doing doing good? 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Doing good? This? As excited as you are? Man Championship week? 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay through the roof Cloud nine, still am. And 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: on the other side of this, we have Alcoholty. You 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: can find him on the Alghaloty podcast out high You. 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Doing doing well, super pumped, amazing that we are here. 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: But here we are, and let the good times continue, guys. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: Yes, let the good times keep on rolling. And guys 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: listening to this, they know the deal by now. They've 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: listen to this for better part of four months. Now, debates, questions, points, winners, losers. 46 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: I get to decide who the winner is. With all 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: that being said, let's just jump right into it here, 48 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: and I think we have to start with this Philadelphia 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 1: Eagles defense, specifically one guy, Jalen Carter, because, my god, 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: as I mentioned at the top of the show, he 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: has just been a dominant force up front this year. Definitely, 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: if he's not top of the top defensive tackle in 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: the league, he's definitely top two or three. This guy 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: has been a mauler. He has just been this. He's 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: been the same player in the postseason as he has 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: been in the regular season. Right he has seven tackles, 57 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: two sacks to sixteen sack yards loss, two tackles for loss, twas, 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: two bass breakups, had a forced fumble he had last 59 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: week against the Los Angeles Rams. And he's going to 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: be a problem for this for this Washington Commanders offense. 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: That is gonna be without Sam Cosmy as he had 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: an ACL injury against the Lions and he will be 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: out for the remainder of the playoffs. Is going to 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: be again, it's going to be I think one of 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: the one of the top priorities, if not the top 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: priority to get a final answer for him. So one, 67 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: we shall start with you, what do you do with 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: this guy? Like, what do you do with Davin Carter? 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Especially if you're down you're starting right guard heading into 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: this NFC Championship matchup. 71 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing you have to do 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: is get hands on him. Don't hold him. I get 73 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: your hands on and get your shoulder pads on him. 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: Don't let him have a free run like he did 75 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: to basically kill the game for the Rams last week 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: and on that last minute drive that the Rams were 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of success on he single handedly 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: killed the game right there. He had freedom run because 79 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: of a confusion on the offensive line. I think that's 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: what you know, Dan Quinn and the offensive coaches need 81 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 2: to make focus here on this game is no mistakes, 82 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: no mistakes on the line. Make sure you know your 83 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: assignment and always know where ninety eight is at. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's definitely the case. And again, even 85 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: if you know where he's at, he's he's really hard 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: to stop because he's got such quick canes, he's got 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: such quick feed. He's a powerful dude. He's got a 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: rare blend of skills here and the quarter of PFF 89 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, regular in postseason, he's the fourth highest graded 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: pass rusher for his position. He has sixty five total pressures, 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: seven sacks. I mean, he's got fifteen his forty three hurries. 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean this, this dude is such a big presence 93 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: in the past game and I think you know, Jaydon 94 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: Jane Dannis has proven he can make a guy miss. 95 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: But again, Jalen Carter has just been He's been a 96 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: big challenge for the for any interior off at the 97 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: line that he's gone up against. And I'll go over 98 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: you next and we save question. I mean, if you're 99 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, if you're Jaden Daniels, and you're all this 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: guy at all the guys in this this oppensive meeting 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: room trying to figure out how you stop Jalen Carter, 102 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't think you stop Jalen Carter. I 104 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: think you survive Jalen Carter as best as you can. 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean, Cliff Kingsbury has said it. Now that Aaron 106 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 3: Donald is retired, Carter may well be the single best 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman in the NFL. We saw the at 108 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: least somewhat surprising tactic of Trent Scott put in place 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 3: of Cosme during the winning at the Lions, but you 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: know that was an in game thing. I really do wonder, 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: with a week to prepare, if we see another path 112 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: taken and to me and you know it's always tricky 113 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: with offensive line play, but just outside looking in, what 114 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: you always want to do is get your five best 115 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: offensive linemen on the field. In theory, you could do 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: that if you shifted Andrew Willie from right tackle to 117 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: right guard and to put Cornelia's luck is at right tackle. 118 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: Wiley has played guard. I don't know that that necessarily 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 3: is where he is at his best, but generally speaking, 120 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: guard is easier than tackle. So if a guy can 121 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: do reasonably well at tackle, he should be able to 122 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 3: do at least reasonably well at guard. I would think 123 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: that that's on the table now. We don't know what 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: you know, Cliff Kingsbury and Dan Quinn are necessarily thinking here, 125 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: But I think it starts with coming up with, Okay, 126 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: what is our best setup when it comes to starting 127 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: front five for this game, and then you go from there, 128 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: because look, even if Cosmy was healthy, I mean, Cosmey 129 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: had issues with Jalen Carter, like he's a really tough matchup. 130 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: So I think you got to figure out, Okay, what 131 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: is our best way to make up for Cosmy being out? Personally, 132 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I would do Wiley at guard, Lucas at tackle, and 133 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: then you go from there and you hope for the best, 134 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: but it's not easy. Carter is a force. The Eagles 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: defense has been tremendous this season. The Commanders know that, 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: and this is probably the same biggest concern for Washington 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: in this game, handling that mighty interior of the Eagles 138 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: defensive line. Given that caused me is out. 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really, it really is. And again, really tough 140 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: for cose Me to see him go out like that, 141 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: because I mean, that's one of the biggest fears as 142 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: an off the lineman because you're getting rolled up from 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: the back like that. There's really nothing you can do 144 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: about except it's move your feet, and even then it's 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of a gamble. But you 146 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: mentioned you mentioned the difference between garden tackle, and I 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: mean you are right. I mean, gard in some ways 148 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: is definitely a little bit easier than tackle. But uh, 149 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, Trent Scott or Andrew Walla, 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: do you have the size, I think the girth to 151 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: to be able to handle that position swap because you 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: need to be wide up. But you also have really 153 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: quick feed, the ability to pull, and you be able 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: to dig out those nose guards. You got those three 155 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: techniques and work on those combos up to the second level. 156 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: I think Andrew Willy and Tren Scott do have that ability. 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: But you mentioned Trent Squatt, and I think he did 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: do well for what he was given. You know, for 159 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: what it's worth, he did have the best pastors in 160 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: great cording to PFF, among all of Washington's off of 161 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: the lineman. After that game, so one, you know, al 162 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,119 Speaker 1: brings up the prospect of maybe maybe moving Andrew Willie 163 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: over to guard, putting Cornelis who was the right tackle. 164 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you what would you do between 165 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: those two between you know what that first proposition also 166 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: just letting Trent s God, just state that guard position 167 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: is letting it roll there. 168 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't see the practices, right, we don't 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: see what they're doing every day. I mean, they have 170 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: an active Chris Paul for most of the year, but 171 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: we've seen that he's actually handled guard pretty well at time. 172 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's an option that's on the 173 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: table as well. Moving Andrew Wiley to the inside might 174 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: be might be probably the best move, because you're right, 175 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: we want to put Lucas on the field. He's played 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: both sides of the line at tackle, and you need 177 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: your best offensive lineman. I think Al has a point. 178 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: You want your best five out there. And you know, 179 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: I think that Andrew has done a great job at 180 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: right tackle, but it's not anything that you know, you'd say, oh, 181 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: it's a spectacular You're you're gonna miss, you know, something 182 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: super out there on the outside. So I think Cornelius 183 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 2: Lucas stepping in for him on the right side and 184 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: maybe Wiley on the inside it might be a good combination. 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it might be. And again, this is 186 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: one of those things that Cliff d Q, they're not 187 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: going to tell us. This is one of those things 188 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: that we're not going to see in the open portion 189 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: of practice there if they if that is the decision 190 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: they go, they're going to tweak that and and play 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: with that as best they can. And I think it 192 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: is very key that, you know, you do have Corniscus 193 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: who has played very well at tackle whenever he's been 194 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: put in there, and also that experience of guard with Wiley. 195 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: It just seems like that would be a good option. 196 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: But again, I think I think Trend has shown that 197 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: he can at least do some something in the run game, 198 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: just straight up against against some guys that granted, Dylan 199 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Carter is a different kind of guy compared to what 200 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: they were seeing with the Lions, I think that he 201 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: can at least maybe handles on it if he gets 202 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: some chip held and he gets some help from the 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: set from tallabadish or or Andrew Wiley up their tackle. 204 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: But al before we move on to the next question, 205 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, like in terms of establishing 206 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: this run game against I guess a really really good 207 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, deep in the front with the Eagles. I mean, 208 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: obviously Jaen card is gonna pay big role in that, 209 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: but like, what else can they do to replicate the one 210 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two yards that they had against the Lions, 211 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: because I think that was a really big point in 212 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: keeping the town possession and keeping that offense churning while 213 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: they were able to establish some points. Yeah, that was massive. 214 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny the Commanders have won seven consecutive games, 215 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: but that was the best the rushing offense in terms 216 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: of running backs had been since the first game of 217 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 3: that winning streak to win over the Titans. I mean, 218 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: throughout the winning streak, the rushing offense had not been 219 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: that good. Dan Quinn has been pretty you know, blunt 220 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: about that. So a lot of what the Commanders did 221 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: in the win at the Lions in terms of the 222 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: rushing offense was spread the Lions out. The RPO game 223 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: really opened things up, and that allowed for the Commanders 224 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: to do which I always want to do, which is 225 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: run against light boxes. The problem with the Eagles is, 226 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: first of all, their defense is not nearly as banged 227 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: up as the Lions defense. Second of all, the Eagles 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: defense is a lot better than the Lions defense. And 229 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: third of all, there ain't nothing light about those Eagles boxes. 230 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: Well mighty Jalen Carter in the middle, So it's gonna 231 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: be a tall task to run the ball as well 232 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: as the Commanders did this past Saturday night, this coming 233 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon. Now, that doesn't mean that that can't happen. 234 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: You know, It's funny I mentioned that game against the Titans. 235 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: One of the things that gets forgotten about that game. 236 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: The Titans went into that game with one of the 237 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: best run defenses in the NFL, and the Commanders ran 238 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: the ball down the throat of the Titans. So, you know, 239 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: we can talk about stats and matchups all we want. 240 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just about, hey, how you perform on that day. 241 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: So I'm not dismissing any possibility, but I do think 242 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: we have to be realistic here. I mean, even when 243 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: the Commanders beat the Eagles about a month ago. Now, 244 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: it's not like the Commanders ran the ball exceptlutely well 245 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: in that game, Like that was a Jade and Daniel 246 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: specialty that was airing the ball out. And I think 247 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: when it comes to offensive success, that's a lot of 248 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: what you're going to have to be looking at. Doesn't 249 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: mean that you give up on the running game, but 250 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: I think that we do have to be mindful of 251 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: what happened last Saturday night, Is it necessarily what's gonna 252 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: be happening in this Sunday afternoon. 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: No, that's that's absolutely true. And I think you know, 254 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to how much they really trust 255 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: the run game, because they they run the ball forty 256 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: two times against the Lions, and that's that'd be great 257 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: if they were able to do that. I don't know 258 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: if they're going to be able to do so, especially 259 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: with me the kind of path, kind of passer that 260 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: that Jaden is, and also considering what happened with Kenyon 261 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: on Mitchell, I think that could be an golden opportunity 262 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: for them to establish a good presence through the passing 263 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: game and maybe that'll set up the run game. I 264 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: think it also b Rob continues to improve the way 265 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: he did against the Lions. I think that's a good 266 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: positive sign here. We will move on to the next question. 267 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: But score update here, you guys are tied heading into this. 268 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: Really good points made by both guys, and we're to 269 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: move on to the second question here, which will gonna 270 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: be the have the Commanders defense deals with Jailen Hurts. 271 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: We've been mentioning this a couple of times. He Jalen 272 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Hurts did come out a little hobbled in that game, 273 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: and Nix, you're on to say, we'll see how the 274 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: week goes. You know, I think it was Jalen Hurts 275 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: who's sat out of the game. Look, I finished the game. 276 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: That's all that really matters. At this point, he seems 277 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: like he's gonna be ready to go, And just from 278 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: a competitor standpoint, I would be very shocked if he 279 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't go out there and play, because this is a 280 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: you never know when you're going to get back out 281 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: of this opportunity again, even when you're a talented team 282 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: is the Eagles. But he really has not put up 283 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: solid numbers of the passer this year. Nine of his 284 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: nine games through nine games this year, he throw for 285 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: fewer than two hundred yards. And also it just seems 286 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: like whenever you put the ball in his hands more 287 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: often than not, that's kind of the way that you 288 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: beat the Eagles, as weird as that sounds. If you 289 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: if you make him become a passer, it makes it 290 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: a lot harder for him to do things. So all 291 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: will start with you here, and I want to ask you, like, 292 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: what's the best way that this secondary and this defense 293 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: can take advantage of Jalen hurts deficiencies as a passer 294 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: because again hasn't really done what you would want from 295 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: from an offense as just talent wise stacked as that 296 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: group is. Yeah, it's been an ideal. 297 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean the Eagles, of course two and zero postseason, 298 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: but you look at their total net yards passing in 299 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 3: each game, just a buck twenty one in the win 300 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: over the Packers, just sixty five in the win over 301 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: the Rams. Hurts sacks seven times in that game, didn't 302 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: miss an offensive snap, but got fitted for a knee 303 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: brace on his left knee during the game. So he's 304 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: not one hundred percent now you know, like how much 305 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: less than one hundred percent he is? Who the heck knows, 306 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: But like he clearly is not one hundred percent. If 307 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: you see the sack on which he suffered the safety, 308 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he did not look like the Jalen Hurts 309 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: who we have come to know. You know, it's an 310 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: ideal with Hurts because I don't think he's a bad quarterback, 311 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: but I think the last year or two has kind 312 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: of shown us he's maybe not as good as it 313 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: was looking like he might be. Given the restricted mobility. 314 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: Given that the Eagles passing offense right now is not hummin'. 315 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: I think this is a pressure situation. Some of the 316 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: especially like sim pressures from the Rams in the last game, 317 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: really gave Hurt some problems. I think that might be 318 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: a way to go if you're Joe Wit junior. You know, 319 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: Joe Whit does like to blitz a decent amount. Obviously 320 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: there's always risk in doing that, but I think you 321 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: can get to Hurts here. I mean the guy again, 322 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: seven sacks he took in that game against the Rams. 323 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: That's that's a very significant number. And when it comes 324 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: to the other aspect of the Eagles offense, Saquon Barkley, Look, 325 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: he's gonna get his to at least some degree, especially 326 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: with how this Commander's run defense has been this season. 327 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 3: And again, you've got to be realistic about things. If 328 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: you shut Saquon down, awesome, but you know, are you 329 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: counting on that? So I think the path to defensive 330 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: success here is can you do a good job against 331 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: this Eagles passing offense. I think that you can, especially 332 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: if Hertz is in fact ailing. I would like to 333 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: think that Marshawn Lattimore in this game will be better 334 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: than he was in that last game against the Eagles. 335 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: I was a tough spot for Latimore coming off the 336 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: hamstring being tasked with AJ Brown. I thought Latimore was 337 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: better in the win at the Lions, and I look 338 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: for him to continue to do well. Mikey sand was 339 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 3: still is doing really well. Kwan Martin's doing really well. 340 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: So I think the Commander's secondary is in a good place. 341 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: Noah igbanagany, I don't think he gets enough credit, So secondary, 342 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: I think is in a good place. Firts does not 343 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: appear to be in a good place. This is the 344 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: defensive matchup for the Commanders that actually way well break 345 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: in their favor. 346 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you mentioned Saquon, and like the struct 347 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: of the question, because I mean, the key to the 348 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: key to this game at all, it is the stopping Saquon. 349 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: If you do that, it's great. But nobody has done 350 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: that all year. So it's it's more like, Okay, tackle him, great, 351 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: that's fantastic if you can do it. Nobody really has 352 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: been able to do so. But one will switch over 353 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: to you here and the same sort of question, but 354 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: I want to also just kind of focus on the 355 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: secondary here. Because it brings up you know, Latimore, Ignogny, Sammer. Still, 356 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: all those guys have really seemed to come into their 357 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: own recently, especially with Latimore. Seemed like in that that 358 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: lines game, he really don't play that one size was 359 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: moving around. So what do you what do you see 360 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: out of that out of that group there, and how 361 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: can they do their job to affect Jalen Hurst's options 362 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: heading into heading into Sunday. 363 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what I was going to say 364 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: that you know, in the first few games with Latimore, 365 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, you had them following the the number one 366 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: receiver all over the field, and I think over these 367 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: last couple of games where you've just given him at 368 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: least at the second half of the Tampa game, uh 369 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: and versus the Lions, he played half the field and 370 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: he did well. He did very good. He did very good. 371 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: You know, you saw them testing out Sanders still, golf 372 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: tested sander Is still quite a few times, and Sander 373 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: still came through. So I think the key is our 374 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: pass rush and al mentioned it seven sacks. A lot 375 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: of those weren't Hurts to be honest, a lot of 376 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: those is not on this offensive line. The offensive line 377 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: is a great offensive line. But if you confuse hurts, 378 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: if you if you give him looks that he doesn't like, 379 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: he doesn't like to throw turn off, he doesn't like 380 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: to risk throwing interceptions. So you got you have to 381 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: get to him. You have to make sure that you're 382 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: giving them different looks and confusing him. 383 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Uh. 384 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: You know, I prefer more coverage than than blitzing him 385 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: because he if you know he's hurt, you got you 386 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: gotta see this injury report the next couple of days. 387 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: If you know he's hurt, he's not gonna run, So 388 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: there's no threat of him running. So I feel like 389 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: you just need to play the coverage and make sure 390 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: that you're confusing him. 391 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, you know, the pass rushing against 392 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: his offensive line is so interesting because to my to 393 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: my eye, the Eagles have the best offensive line of 394 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: the game. Uh. They they're they're full of all Pro 395 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: They're full of Pro Bowlers. I mean, they're these are 396 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: guys that they have homegrown, talent, driven guys are I mean, 397 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: they're the best of their craft in a lot of 398 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: different ways. So you mentioned bringing the simulated pressures, and 399 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's that's enough to get 400 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: passes off of the line to put pressure on Jailing 401 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: because it seems like whenever he's out there, he just 402 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: has all day to throw. And you know, that's probably 403 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he hasn't been able to 404 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: throw the hadn't had to throw the ball so much 405 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: because he doesn't really need to, especially with Saquan and 406 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: all them. So like, I mean, how do you how 407 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: do you is there is there a simple way to 408 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: get past this offensive line put pressure on jail In 409 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: and maybe the injury plays the part in there as well. 410 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there isn't a simple way. I mean a 411 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: simp pressure. The idea would that you can confuse Hurts 412 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 3: enough pause, enough pause to wear he's a bit off. 413 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, the Eagles offensive line is outstanding and there's 414 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: probably only so much penetration you're going to be generating. 415 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: So the hurt sacks, to Want's point, a lot of 416 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 3: them are going to have to be on him. Now 417 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: we know how it is a lot of mobile quarterbacks 418 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: take sacks because they're out there scrambling buying time. So 419 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 3: that is part of this equation too. But again, seven sacks, 420 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's an unacceptable total. That's not something that 421 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: any quarterback should ever be taken. And I don't care 422 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: you know what his characteristics happened to be. So yeah, 423 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know the status of this knee. Again, 424 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: it's a weird deal. He did not miss a snap 425 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: in that game against the Rims. He played on one 426 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: hundred percent of the Eagles offensive snaps. But he got 427 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 3: fitted for a knee brace, So that's significant. Like, that's 428 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: not nothing. And again, if you watch the game, he 429 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 3: did not appear to be himself. So we'll see. But 430 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: I think there's an overarching theme here, which is the 431 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: Eagles passing offense is not in a great place right now. 432 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: It's not killing it, it's not thriving the way Saquon 433 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: Barkley is thriving. And so if you can keep that 434 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: going for just one more week, that very much plays 435 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: into the Commander's favor as much as the Commander's run 436 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: defense has been an issue the past. Defense, if you 437 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: look at some of the stats, if you're looking out 438 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: of the season has gone on, it has not been 439 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: as bad. Like I don't want to say it's been great, 440 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: but it's it's been better, you know, Like I think 441 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: you have to differentiate commander's run defense, commander's pass defense, 442 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: commander's pass defense. Commanders have gotten some sacks. Commander's defensive backs, 443 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: like we talked about, have done some good things here lately. 444 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: So I don't think that's so reasonable to think that 445 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: this commander's pass defense in this game could end up 446 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: being a positive. We'll see. 447 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mentioned in the knee brace, and I 448 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: don't know how much time he's ever played in a 449 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: knee brace, but I can tell you that from my 450 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: personal experience, it takes a little bit of time to 451 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: getting used to just of how awkward it is, a 452 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a like movement deficiency there. So I 453 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: wonder how much that's going to play if he doesn't 454 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: wear the knee brace on Sunday, how much of a 455 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: factor that's going to play. But one before we move 456 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: on here, just kind of focusing on the injury a 457 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: little bit. And I mean, one of the things that 458 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: I noticed in that second matchup with the Eagles was 459 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: how it seemed like they like, once once he got 460 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: past the initial commander's rush in the few stands that 461 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: he played there really wasn't like too much of an 462 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: answer for it. It seemed like he was able to pull 463 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: out these big, long chunks of rushing yards whenever he 464 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: was just get past that initial rush. So, like, how 465 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: how much do you think his inability maybe to move 466 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: around is going to play a role in getting Jalen 467 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: hurt to stay him is keeping in the pocket. And 468 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: do you expect the commanders to test that a little 469 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: bit to see how much he can actually move at 470 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: least in the first quarter. 471 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it would be huge if he's not able 472 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 2: to use his legs because you know who also cooked 473 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: in that first quarter when he was in the game 474 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: was Saquan After uh you know, he did have that 475 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 2: long run after the series after he got hurt. But 476 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: other than that, the Commanders kept them in check for 477 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: the rest of the game because the game plan was, 478 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: let's dare can he pick get to beat us? I 479 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: think it kind of has to switch to list there 480 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: for Jalen hurts and this uh you know, hurt passing 481 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: game to beat us. You know, let's let's let's bet 482 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: on that rather than focus all our attention on on Saquon, 483 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna have to dare Jalen to try 484 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 2: and throw over the top and hopefully you know our 485 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: secondary is up for the task this time. You know 486 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: that the Kenny pickt did lead a drive that could 487 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: have ended the game right there, with the with the drop, 488 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: with the drop by Smith right basically before that could 489 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: have killed the clock. Now we have to ask ourselves 490 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: if you know, if you as a secondary, are you 491 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: willing to test that again? Are you willing to take 492 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: that risk and make sure that it's on? It hurts 493 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: to be either rather than squon. 494 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: We will move on to the final question here and 495 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I will keep the score to myself. I'll do that. 496 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: I did that last week. I think it add a 497 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: little more intrigue. I think we do so again and 498 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: we'll stick. We'll switch back over to the offense here. 499 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: And I think obviously J Jalen Jayden has to play fantastic, 500 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: right he has throughout his entire playoffs. He's top five 501 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: and all among all postseason quarterbacks in passing yards, completing 502 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: rating QBR. He's he has just been by far. I 503 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: think objectively speaking, just about the numbers show the most 504 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: consistent quarterback that we've seen throughout the postseason. But aside 505 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: from Jayden, aside from those guys. Uh, there are obviously 506 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot of other offensive players are there who could 507 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: who had a big role in this game. So one 508 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: we'll start with you here, really simple, which offensive player 509 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: besides Jayden needs to have an impact on Sunday for 510 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: the Commanders to punchter take it to the Super Bowl. 511 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: I think it has to be Austin Eckler to be honest. 512 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: The first game, we saw a lot of him, especially 513 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: in the passing game. Uh. He was basically the only 514 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: option that we could throw down to because Philly likes 515 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: to dare you to try to throw deep with their 516 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: with their two deep safety looks. So he's gonna have 517 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: to be eating there in the short game and in 518 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: the in the short passing game. He wasn't available for 519 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: the second game, which you know, obviously, I think the 520 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: Keys took more of that role of his job in 521 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: in that game. But I definitely think Austin Eckler being 522 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: back it might be a wildcard for the Eagles defense. 523 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: It might be. And for what it's worth, among all 524 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: all all pass catchers through the postseason, Austin Eckler leaves 525 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: the leads all pass catchers in receiving grade. He really 526 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: has been such a key part of this off especially 527 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: since he's come back. A lot of people didn't think 528 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: he could, but here he is making an impact for 529 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: this team. Al will switch over to you same question 530 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: aside from Jayden, which after the player needs to have 531 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: an impact on Sunday. 532 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: I would say Diami Brown. So if you look at 533 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: the two games between the Commanders and Eagles during the 534 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: regular season, the loss for the Commanders at the Eagles 535 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 3: in the Thursday night or, Terry mcclaurin ended up being 536 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: like a total non factor in that game got taken 537 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: out of that game. Second game, Terry was much more 538 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: of a factor the win. Five catches, sixty yards and 539 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: a touchdown on six targets. But whatever happens this Sunday afternoon, 540 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: and look, I don't expect Terry to be taken out 541 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: of the game like he was in that first game 542 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 3: against Eagles. But Legals defense is good. Legals secondary has 543 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: been really impressive this season. So you know, we can't 544 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 3: just count on Terry necessarily having you know, ten for 545 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: a buck fifteen if he does, awesome, But if Terry 546 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: is removed from the game to whatever degree, is there 547 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: another Commander's receiver who can emerge. And this rise of 548 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: Diami Brown this postseason has been nothing short of stunning. 549 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you look at Diami Brown. Over his first 550 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: four regular seasons, he never had at least four catches 551 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: in each of at least two consecutive games. He has 552 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: had at least five catches in each of these two 553 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: games this postseason. I mean, statistically speaking, that's not supposed 554 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: to happen, and yet it has. He's doing a really 555 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: good job. He has emerged as the team's number two 556 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: receiver in these playoffs, as the commander is remember, and 557 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: I feel like this gets forgotten. They're playing without their 558 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 3: number two receiver, Noah Brown. I know Dan Quinn doesn't 559 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: like to say there's a number two receiver Noah Brown. 560 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: Was there a number two receiver this season, like you 561 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: go by basically any stat that was the case. Noah 562 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: Brown's been out for about a month now, and Diamy 563 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: Brown is really stapped up. 564 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: And so you know, with this game, obviously you. 565 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: Want and need Terry to be Terry, and I think 566 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 3: he will be, but you need more than that, Like 567 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: it can't just be the Terry McLaurin show. And you know, 568 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: as odd as it may sound, I think there is 569 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: a need here for Diami Brown to keep doing what 570 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 3: he's doing. He has been a revelation these last few weeks. 571 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: You know, there are of course other options. A Lama 572 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: days the keys is certainly perfectly capable, but Diamy Brown 573 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 3: has got it going right now. And you know he's 574 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: making deep catches. He's generating yardage after catch, which which 575 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: is obviously always key. So would love to see Diami 576 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: have himself a third consecutive impressed about him. 577 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: You know, I've been really happy for diam in the 578 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: last few weeks. He leaves the team in yard lead, 579 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: the team receptions. It's taking a while for him to 580 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: really get going, but over the last two weeks, I mean, 581 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: he's been, as you said, a revelation because you could 582 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: argue the Commanders don't win these games without Dimmy Brown. 583 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: The clutch catch he had, you know, to get the 584 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: get the the the Commanders on the plus side of 585 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers territory to get set up that game leaving 586 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: field goal. That insane catch he had uh near the 587 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: the goal line of the Lions with a defender like 588 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: hand in his face mask, making that catch. His trust 589 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: in jaden Is was tremendous, really happy for Dioma to 590 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: see what he's been able to do. All right, winner 591 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: here this is That's why I always call it a 592 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: burden because this was really really tough. You guys were 593 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: tied heading into it. Both made excellent points. Both really 594 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: made a strong case for the final question here who 595 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: As much as I love Eckler, I think I have 596 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: to go with Yami and now because as I said, 597 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: like there's a big key that there's an argument that 598 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: they don't win these games without without Diami. He really 599 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: has stepped up. And I think, Alvali, you have won. 600 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: You've got your win for the Beatdown podcast in the 601 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: NFC Championship. Addition, do you have any words of victory 602 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: for us? 603 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that. You know, it's like Jade and Daniels, 604 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 3: you stay humble, you stay focused. Fourth quarter over time 605 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 3: becomes winning time, like Dan Quinn likes to say. And 606 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 3: we did what we could do, but it was not 607 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: easy one. It was a very difficult opponent. Not unlike 608 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: the Eagles this Sunday afternoon. This was a battle as 609 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: big of a battle as we have this Sunday afternoon. 610 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Uh Yes, and one. Again, I appreciate the afford. It 611 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: was fantastic And again you made a really good point. 612 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: I think Austin ecler is going to have a great 613 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: impact in this game as well, because he was one 614 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: of my favorite players that we signed this offseason. Actink timetime. Again, 615 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: he has proven to be such a big key to 616 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: what makes his offense right, makes what I think what 617 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: makes them into a really good offense into like a 618 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: really great offense. 619 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: And I'm just happy that we can say we need 620 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Diyami to have a big game. You know, if we 621 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: didn't have that in a Bengal card two months ago, 622 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Now that he's stepped up and 623 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: he's doing good, I'm just happy that, you know, finally 624 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: he's getting some shine, he's getting a chance to flourish 625 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: into this offense. 626 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Same. And look, we're all living in some crazy 627 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: times because nobody thought this team was going to be 628 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: an NFC championship. Just I mean, just a year into 629 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: this new regime for dan Quinn Adam Pears, here we 630 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: are and I think, as I said on Twitter after 631 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: that game, the Commanders made a statement to the rest 632 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: of the world that they're here and they are going 633 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: to be a problem for a long time. And hopefully 634 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: we will see you guys again next week covering the 635 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, which is just wild for me to even say, 636 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: but like al, hopefully the Commanders will be celebrating a 637 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: win at Lincoln Financial Field, which by the way, would 638 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: be just so sweet, so sweet to be celebrating on 639 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: their own on that turf. But anyway, again, hopefully we'll 640 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: see you guys next week. No matter what happens, be 641 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: sure to rare or be subscribe wherever you get your podcast. 642 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: And this has been the beat Down MHM.