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Speaker 1: Yeah, wrapper it up podcast Elliot Wilson's What's up Baby?

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Speaker 1: Feeling good in Atlanta? Man? A t L Baby shouts,

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Speaker 1: just like this one of your favorite cities. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: like a home away from home, you know what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 1: It's always a great place to kick back and relax

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Speaker 1: and on the wind a little bit, you know, get

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Speaker 1: some good food. Well the spots out there. Man, what

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Speaker 1: do you like to eating? The waffle House States Because

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Speaker 1: we all got him in New York. So every time

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Speaker 1: I come to waffle House and we don't have no

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Speaker 1: waffle houses back home, we don't, we do not. So

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Speaker 1: you know, whenever I come down here, you know, get

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Speaker 1: some waffle House, Get me a what's it called the

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Speaker 1: Grand Slam or whatever? Yeah, even know what that moons

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Speaker 1: over my hamm me whatever. That's cool saying it right,

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Speaker 1: that's Denny's whatever, the same ship. There you go, delicious

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Speaker 1: delicious here, Travis here, hyper House, you gotta keep those going. Man,

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Speaker 1: do you want these videos? Man? Hashtag asked Laura at

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Speaker 1: hyper House. Man, that's really what you have to do.

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Speaker 1: All I see you can play to about there's no videos.

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Speaker 1: This is why you don't have any videos The Truth South.

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Speaker 1: Finally I feel I feel cleansed. Did I final? It

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Speaker 1: is that? The campaign hashtag asked Laura asked Laura, Man, alright,

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Speaker 1: cool not Laura's all quiet over to say, but I

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Speaker 1: know one day beat that doesn't let him and you

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Speaker 1: always get your own You get your own car with

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Speaker 1: something about that today? Man, you don't want to just

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Speaker 1: like you have to floss on us. Man, you rent

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Speaker 1: the car as soon as you touched down the city. Man,

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Speaker 1: it was expensive. Man, and you know you gotta move around,

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Speaker 1: shake some hands, kiss the babies. Why not have your

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Speaker 1: own vehicle? You know what I mean? You play a

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Speaker 1: lot for Uber's. I do manse economy the other day

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Speaker 1: about it? Right right? You know my uber rators in

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Speaker 1: saved but expenses because I don't even know how to drive, Like,

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Speaker 1: how did you like, you know, like a rare dude,

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Speaker 1: and Queen's unning around with a car Like in New

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Speaker 1: York we was talking like ride the subway. You don't

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Speaker 1: even have a car. You were told to ride a subway.

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Speaker 1: I had a call, I had it. I was driving

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Speaker 1: like like sixteen sixteen seventeen. Yeah, you had to man

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Speaker 1: with your south side listen getting on that bus was

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Speaker 1: not cool. So having your own v was definitely the move.

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Speaker 1: So because you lived like the like. So there's like,

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Speaker 1: I remember I dated this girl Lalton. She lived in Lawton.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta like take the train right to what

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Speaker 1: one's seventy nine depends. You gotta take the trade to

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Speaker 1: the last stop and then get on the dollar van.

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Speaker 1: All the dollivan. I will the dollar van trying to

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Speaker 1: is back in the day, Like we'll sketch you out there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know, I've been driving for a long time,

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Speaker 1: so anytime in Atlanto, always got to move around. Man

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Speaker 1: beat I stayed with a whipman, got to and then

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Speaker 1: I found out the other day to beat out an

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Speaker 1: average suit collector on the lot. We're talking about the

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Speaker 1: possibility of a Rock Nation Brunch coming back to life.

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Speaker 1: We're hearing rumors, rumors ever since you know what's our gun.

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Speaker 1: In our last conversation, he was saying, like he took

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Speaker 1: he posted a picture on Twitter. Right, we took a

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Speaker 1: group shot of myself, Jay Z and Benny the Butcher,

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Speaker 1: Homie Dash and hit Boy took a group shot. But

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Speaker 1: put it on Twitter. Look at Bet not trying to

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Speaker 1: felt like you were in the Last Nation. Color was

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Speaker 1: I'm the flyer guy. Guy was kind of got that

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. When I couldn't get in that time, I

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Speaker 1: espectly knowing the big Homby, we're getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, beat that's good everybody, but it was bad.

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Speaker 1: But from there I learned my lesson. You gotta show

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Speaker 1: up early to events. Yeah, there's always a lot of

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Speaker 1: instructions on how to get to the right nation brunch here.

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Speaker 1: If they don't try to drive directly at times, you

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a shuttle to a shuttle. But you know,

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Speaker 1: youth time. I think one time with this episode man,

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Speaker 1: this guy made a lot of noise last last year,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like the album is still relevant. It's

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Speaker 1: made a lot of the critics top albums of the year,

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Speaker 1: got today? Man? J R. D Man Story JR. D Man.

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Speaker 1: I really like him. You know, he could rap, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's the first thing I think about when I think

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Speaker 1: about Like the dude, karam really well and the album

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Speaker 1: I think was really well constructed. It was personal, transparent,

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Speaker 1: I love him a little bit better now too. He

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Speaker 1: about things? He said, you know, we don't know yet

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Speaker 1: it's a dream Ville record, true, you know, but it

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Speaker 1: Coles running that label, that dream Ville thing. It looks

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Speaker 1: You know, seeing even cold in this light, it still

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Speaker 1: day one though he was like day zero with Cold, right,

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Speaker 1: love ambitious people. Man is very ambitious. Man. This guy

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Speaker 1: is about to go on tour also with Smino. You

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Speaker 1: So already already, I know know New York show is

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Speaker 1: I was aiming for, just like that world of music

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00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 1: because I don't really like too much exists like Negro

426
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 1: spiritually trying to do that. That's kind of provocally. You

427
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,159
Speaker 1: always reminded me of cute it right, But like I

428
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 1: love them so much about this album is like how

429
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: you bending words like on Stars, like even that second

430
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,919
Speaker 1: verse when you're saying like the lead or and Christian

431
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,479
Speaker 1: or know what? Like, was that your intention going on

432
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 1: just trying to be playful with your rhyme? I really

433
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 1: just let the vibration just kind of got me sometimes

434
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 1: when I be wrapping. It comes from a lot of

435
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,360
Speaker 1: different places, but for like that regular specifically like bend

436
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,920
Speaker 1: in those words just felt like, you know what I'm saying,

437
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: it was I can't think about the word I'm trying

438
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: to say, but it just felt right for them that

439
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 1: just a little pattern of music that it came on

440
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 1: they did throughout the whole project. Yeah, okay, okay, Radar

441
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 1: and like the flows and the patterns are crazy. Man.

442
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: When that stuck out to me was around sound congratulate.

443
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 1: That's what set it off, right, Yeah, Yeah, that was

444
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 1: the first one we dropped that. I feel like February

445
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: February or earlier. It maybe Jenue way of last year.

446
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 1: That's the fastest to ever go go for you. So yeah, yeah,

447
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: it's like less than a year, maybe like eight months.

448
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 1: Last I checked, it was a hundred million streams almost

449
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: plat baby, you think that song resonated so well? Um,

450
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy, bro, I was doing like a

451
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: little theory test or a field study, and I'm like, y'all,

452
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 1: y'all turned up like a little field study and I'm like,

453
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: all right, everybody does like the resurgence of the song

454
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 1: that was popping at one time. I kind of took

455
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: that farm and then I wanted to use like shout

456
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: out to y'a seen you know what. I wanted to

457
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,719
Speaker 1: show up to Miss fat Booty. So my dog sent

458
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,280
Speaker 1: me that be and I'm like, oh, this is perfect,

459
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: Like I can keep flavor on this. And that's what

460
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: it is right now. That's the climbate wind kind of

461
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: just it works. That's the biggest one of the what's

462
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 1: name for me? And it's just because familiar things, you

463
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Nostalgia is really a big factor

464
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 1: in to listen to music because everybody got to correlate

465
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 1: something or something. You always relate something the song, so

466
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: it's if it's already there and then you put your

467
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: own twist on it. It's kind of beautiful. It's kind

468
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: of beautiful being able to show respect to that because

469
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: that symbol came all the way from Aretha Franklin. Yeah, yeah,

470
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: one step ahead and then you go to most def

471
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: and then you know what I'm saying. And I'm sure

472
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: other people have used that as well, but that's that's

473
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of hard to me. I love, like Sewan respect

474
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: in that type of life. Yeah, though it was dope.

475
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: I saw your the amazed performance you did that you

476
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: said you showed it was like you played the sample. Yeah,

477
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: you played the most defin like this is great, this

478
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: is great, okay, my greatness. You know, it's like you

479
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: added on to that legacy. So it didn't feel like

480
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: you're just like, you know, it's not it's not a

481
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: cheat code. More so more so asked to a legacy

482
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 1: that it exactly exactly how Yeah you put that. That's perfect.

483
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: Even the performance twenty one on there as well, it's

484
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: one of his he's had a crazy year, but that

485
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: was one of his best performances too. Yeah, him and

486
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: from the East Side. I just was just saying, you man,

487
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: young Duty, I don't know this be that young Young

488
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: Duty too. Took me to a place called Boulder Press. Yeah,

489
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: I think that's where this young gentleman is from. He

490
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: was assistant. I taken me to his actual area, but

491
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: he grew up, you know, I went. He drove like

492
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: a maybiac and hopped out. And you know, it's a

493
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: real situation, right texting. I mean, I don't wanna, but

494
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: whatever we are right now, too nice for real is

495
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: to go down over here. Yeah, but I think what's

496
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 1: funny about you? You the thing about I think we

497
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: understands like you viewed as this pure artist, but like

498
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: there's so much street element or so much realness to

499
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: your your craw understand like like that doesn't I don't

500
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: know if every critic gets it, that doesn't understand the culture.

501
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: It's like you're talking about real under like that you're

502
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: proud of how you're able to do that, but then

503
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of sneaky too and not trying and

504
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: keep it like that. But if you know, you know,

505
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: type of situation, I don't know kind of like it's

506
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: almost like talking to cold, but at the same time,

507
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: it's like respect to like where I'm from, respect to

508
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: like people who are still going through that. You know

509
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I try to find right now we're

510
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: here right exactly, trying to find that common ground, you

511
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying through the music, because it's a

512
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of different meetings, there's a lot of different it's

513
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: just a lot of different vibrations out there, you know

514
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and you can find that that medium

515
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: between everybody to just bring it all in. I think

516
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: I try to hit a record called stick you know

517
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: what that means? Not yeah exactly, like that's that's that's crazy.

518
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: That's another song that's going off, is doing really well.

519
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: Sticky debut. Did that dream Feel Fast? And I saw

520
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: you do it? That made in America in Philadelphia. I

521
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: think every year I made in America, always trying to

522
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: figure out like who owns it? You know, like who's

523
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: the m v P. I feel like you definitely were

524
00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: the guy that what was it like? Because you are

525
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: holding the pole up there. I've seen security take a

526
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: dude was up there. He was charged up my s

527
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: and I seen security telling me get down. I was like, oh,

528
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: I can use this. This is like a perfect little

529
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: landmark where everybody could see me. It's like performance, that's

530
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: like one of the more important aspects of my career.

531
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: I just take hevery importance is to like trying to

532
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: put on the best show post or whatever, just because

533
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: it sell the tickets. You know what I'm saying. You

534
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: sell the tickets, you do your own shows, and then

535
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: that's what big books for the festivals. And that's just

536
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. When you go to show,

537
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: you don't hear him wrapping his vocals, wrapping over the vocals,

538
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: no backing tracks for show. For shore, like take big

539
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: pride of that just because I've just seen the difference.

540
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: I've been on both sides of it, and I'm like,

541
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: oh no, this is the way you connect more because

542
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: it just brings everything to life personally death. For me,

543
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: I know everybody does it a different type of way

544
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: because everybody got different like capacities. I tend to have

545
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: like a I got a lot of winds, you know

546
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: what I'm what's that challenge to like because you always

547
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: want that person to sound like the record. Yes, right,

548
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: So like do you feel confident though, that you can

549
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: deliver a performance something similar to the record? For sure?

550
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: For sure? And this little tricks and stuff I learned

551
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: through touring and making music through the years, just how

552
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: to like you can get every word and just take

553
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: a breath for it left the DJ. You know what

554
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Just little things to be able to create

555
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: that same performance or a little bit better. Sometimes I've

556
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: seen people say like, oh, I like your lot of

557
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: performances is better, maybe casing point like Colors, I did

558
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: a song called working Out. I've seen a lot of

559
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: people say like, wow, I love this version, And that's

560
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: never a slight to me. That actually makes me feel

561
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: more proud because it's like, oh, okay, like now you

562
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: get it because before it was radios and headphones and

563
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: ship and he was performing in your face drums and

564
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: how that's how he was doing it. So I love

565
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: it if somebody says I love this performance made way

566
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: better because them tickets, That's really what it's about. Like

567
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm a touring artists in my ticket sales, so I like,

568
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: try to stand on that. And you broke your wrist

569
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: performing at the Governor's Ball, right, we didn't had a

570
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: little hairline fractional, little boxing fraction up. I was in

571
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: the stage and stick you know, um, I felt a

572
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: little pop man. It was trash. That was childish with me.

573
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm too over that. It appears on the D Day mixtape,

574
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: the Dream Film Mixed Stage. Did you know it's gonna

575
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: be one of those ones when you yeah. I remember

576
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 1: just coming up with the hook, and what was crazy

577
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: was after twenty nineteen, my voice was messed up or

578
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: whatever whatever, and I wanted to I wanted to yell

579
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: this hook. I started off yelling it's not gonna work it.

580
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: It wasn't hitting. It wasn't hitting for me. I was

581
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: more like background I could do. I was doing like

582
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: some mad little stuff. But I got the little my

583
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: homie own Kennedy to do that, do the what's name?

584
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: He didn't perfect because it's just his world. He's a

585
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: ragi rock like and it just came together perfect. I

586
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: remember just recorded in the crib and that's just jumping around.

587
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: Listen to him like, oh, this is something different right here,

588
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: like when they cold said, I gotta know that what

589
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: is that process? Cole probably was the last one to

590
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: get on it, but he heard it before, so he

591
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: heard it before and I guess he just felt the

592
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: moment whatever. Next time he heard it, he was like, perfectly,

593
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: you want to get on this all. Yeah, it was hard.

594
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite performance records that I've seen, Like, oh, like,

595
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: y'all could actually hurt you hurt yourself out there. It

596
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: was crazy because you guys say beauty that dream real

597
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: fast and like the song was like less. Yeah, everyone

598
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: knew and it was probable a little little viral moment

599
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: on Twitter with its something. It went crazy. It was

600
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: a good time. Bird DJ Drama you know what his

601
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: vocals always I'd rather you and Drama getting back into

602
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: the studio the caprio three? Is that true? Yeah, I

603
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: was talking to I'll be like about two. The way

604
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I get it, I'll just be talking because it's the

605
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: wild Wild Wist, So sometimes I'll just say anything the

606
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: wild wild, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I

607
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: think we're gonna do that. But I kind of want

608
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: to do it, like in the stage of how Light

609
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: Wayne's to do it just rapping over other people. I've

610
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: never really tried that. I did a couple of freestyles

611
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but to the regard of just like,

612
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: let me get these fifteen beats, let me I love

613
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: this artist, I love these these beats. I've never really

614
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: tried that, So I think I want to do it

615
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: in that world, just just because you did it on

616
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: flex a couple of years ago. You did it on flex, right,

617
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: just something like the doctor can't see my p like

618
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: pterodactyl something. This guy's incredible. No, that was that was

619
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: a good time. Funk. I didn't even understand what's going on.

620
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: He was, he was. I wasn't get it a little

621
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, you got to, you got to. We

622
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: might go back one day. I've been thinking about, like

623
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: I solidly like, uh like retired away from the freestyle

624
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: because I was glad at Flank Flex because he didn't

625
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: respond to what I wanted to and it was like

626
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: a childhood dream to get the bomb and I ain't

627
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: hit the bomb or none of the hype. So I

628
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: was a little upset. But I think I'm like get

629
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: back into the freestyle world just because it's like another

630
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: part of the art that just you know, it's another

631
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: not you on your on your tool. You also feel

632
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: that because with further story, there's so much personal stuff

633
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,239
Speaker 1: you had to get off. I'm a bar fools up,

634
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Like I just feel free and like for sure feel good,

635
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: um exactly, and just from the wear and tear into

636
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: like the nick nick and picking of that project, like

637
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: it left me with a whole bunch of like scattered

638
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: bones that I could like put together and make skeletons.

639
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: And I know that was super whatever, but I could

640
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: make make enough project essentially what I was trying to say, Yeah,

641
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the light of just trying to like get

642
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: some music out there and not trying to be a rush.

643
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: Let it come to me, you know what I'm saying

644
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: as naturally is it weird because I know it's not

645
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: something like I necessarily control. But yeah, I'm in the

646
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: space of just like being free to the creativity because

647
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be in the road. There's a

648
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: lot of stuff coming up in my life. So I

649
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: just so you said you regretted that forever, so you

650
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: let a lot of people in the studio in the

651
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: process just kind of weighed you down, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

652
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: it was heavy, a lot of pains, but at the

653
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: same time it turned out for the best. But never again,

654
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: so the family know where you were going with them,

655
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: like did your sister know you was doing a sister

656
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: and now you know, I don't even know if she

657
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: heard it sussing them. I don't even know if she

658
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: heard that song. It's still like a day by day thing.

659
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,239
Speaker 1: That's why it's like still like even to like I

660
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: wonder how I'm going to like react performing some of

661
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: these songs. You know what I'm saying, because a lot

662
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: of personal stuff. We're gonna have fun, Like just just

663
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: just say it's gonna end with stick so you get

664
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: to the mounttop. We got to get some ship up.

665
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a different Like I'm bringing a couple

666
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: of pieces to the band and just doing a couple

667
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: of things they did before, making it just like bigger

668
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: and showing like the full this expression that could come

669
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: with this type of project. We've never seen a family

670
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: expression like what happens that crack sandwich, Like we can't

671
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: think that everybody knows right you kind of break down

672
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: that party crack Sandwich because it's such a crazy story

673
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: that involved multiple members of your family and yourself. Now

674
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: that was it was just a simple we're going to

675
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: lose in the walls from my brother graduation um. After party,

676
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: everybody let a little drunk or whatever, and something happened

677
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: to the regard where they went to the restaurom. My sisters,

678
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: two sisters went to the restaurroom. They got no fight.

679
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: I kicked out of the club all I know, asking

680
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: mysel to getting bushed in the face outside the club.

681
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: But we were the football team. We were all the

682
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,719
Speaker 1: guys that my brother graduated with. So it got crazy.

683
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: Like when we went outside and we uice. We definitely

684
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: serve some justice outside of the club at night. You

685
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: guys got arrested too, right, So for during that six

686
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: to seven hours, you guys in the holding stuff, what

687
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: was the conversation Like it was late, Like it was yeah,

688
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: at the same time, my sister, right, I'm youngest here

689
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: l I'm scared, I got schooled coming back, like I'm

690
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: about to go to college. You know what I'm saying.

691
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: It's like I say, here, I just remember my sister

692
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: had to scratch on her eyePhone. When I guess somebody

693
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: hit which is sister, It's like, yeah, but he might

694
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: be he just it was a lot going on. But

695
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, he got we deserved. But she

696
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: had a little scratch on her and I just remember

697
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: her arguing with my others is like, oh, you should

698
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: have started this, And I mean they was having a

699
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: little scattering there and they made my brothers and a

700
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: couple of the football players. Was like just kind of

701
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: hype because they go to one of the people that

702
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: was working at the jail and it was it always

703
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna be, but it was crazy. It was. But we

704
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: joke about it like this was birthfast. He said it

705
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: was a traumatic experience, very traumatic. Yeah, yeah, and it's

706
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like even having to dial back

707
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: through that, you know what I'm saying, because having those conversations,

708
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: if you listen to the record, I was. I was

709
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: being like a detective sometimes when I was with my

710
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: family around like holidays or something weird, just be talking

711
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: about these things. Take my phone out, just recorded. So

712
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: if you're on the record, you hear my sister actually

713
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: giving you the detailed accounts and she drunk his health

714
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: so she's just saying anything like it's my whole family

715
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: in there. So I was doing stuff like that just

716
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: again because the actual stories actually telling what happened, you

717
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I wasn't like coming to studio

718
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: and say I'm literally just like, oh, that's crazy, and

719
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm putting the phone out and just let them talk

720
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: and they ain't gonna do nothing incriminated. But at the

721
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: same time, it just literally like help me refresh those stories.

722
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: And then just like, how do they feel about you

723
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: putting that big story out there? Did they love it?

724
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. At this point, I

725
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad thing because they in supported

726
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: what I do and everything. We talked a lot, so

727
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad thing. But at the

728
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: same time, I didn't get like, so why did you

729
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: have to you know what I'm saying. I never got

730
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: those type of moments, So I think, you know, it's

731
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: probably good. And the people that know the you're youngest

732
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: of seven kids, and it's like you're the baby brol

733
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: but now that's like your big brothers, so like your family.

734
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: Like even purchasing property, like to talk about that was

735
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: the property purchase, Yeah, bro, I mean just trying to

736
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: make my money work for me essentially. But in the

737
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: regard of the property I bought, it was my grandmother's

738
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: old crib and it's just all this land that used

739
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: to be like afforded to the family when it's holidays

740
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: and everybody was just all coming. It's just like so

741
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: much landing. It's in South Georgie and it's like beautiful

742
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: fertile land, you know what I'm saying. And they used

743
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: to what's it called the crop was like turpentine or

744
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: something that that was like the that that grew off

745
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: of the land. And it was just a lot of

746
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: different moments in and being able to like get that

747
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: piece of land from fact for my family and then

748
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: just need the provider adding to the legacy, you know

749
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, for the people that's coming after me,

750
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: for my kids and all that, and onto the legacy. Man,

751
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: you got your cousin on the album to John to Austin.

752
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know that y'all were related for better days,

753
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: Like how was dope? How dope was that? Just having

754
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: him collaborate with you. Did you grow up then going

755
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: to the studios? No, you know it's crazy. Um, I

756
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: got a big family, so it's a lot of blended

757
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: families in the mix of us having our family and

758
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: he's connected to me through like blended family and stuff

759
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: like that. He I didn't even really let him know

760
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I did music until I got lit like this is

761
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: like post Freshman cover, post us doing our first rap radar.

762
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: That's when I let him know. I'm like, yo, like

763
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: up because I know you right here record, I'm like

764
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm coming up or whatever. And you just stayed in

765
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: contact through that and it's just like love. Remember when

766
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: the verses happened because he shot in the verses because

767
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't know about exactly. I mean,

768
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: she was like, yes, my cousin. I was like, oh, work,

769
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: but show, and it wasn't know, like nepotism or nothing,

770
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: which is literally you know what I'm saying. He busts

771
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: my ass and wanted to let him know, like you

772
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, we from the same DNA bro,

773
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: Like we got the same games at the same time.

774
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: Busy sure my system that. Staying on the topic of family, um,

775
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: like I think on the second verse, you were talking

776
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: about how like you just to say change and stuff

777
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: like that with success, and you ask yourself questions about that.

778
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've changed since you've gotten on

779
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: but show? But I wouldn't say it in like you

780
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that always in the negatory negatory

781
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: is that word net right? Not in the negative sense? Um,

782
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: I just think I'm mature more. You know what I'm saying,

783
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm wrong like a's a man and kind of coming

784
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: into like learning how to like financially handle things and

785
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: then just handle things on the parts of just like

786
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: like I said, just coming into your manhood and standing

787
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: in it. I just had to find certain things about

788
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: myself and I think it's like a pretty positive outcome,

789
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I feel like I stand

790
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: on good business. You think it was about we changed

791
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: success because we know as a young person, you thought

792
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: football would be that for me, right, football player. Now

793
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: you're successful artists, like you know, some people get success

794
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: and it's not they can't handle it. It's not suited

795
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: for them, like they struggle with it when it comes

796
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: with it. Seems like you finding your place in music

797
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: and having success in it, it brought you some comfort.

798
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: But sure, um, and then I actually came into it

799
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: with like the sound like I was comfortable in my

800
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: own skin, Like I kind of I didn't get signed

801
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: as like a nineteen and two year old, you know

802
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Trying to really find yourself, you know

803
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I kind of came into it like okay,

804
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: like these are your options. I gave myself like this

805
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: is gonna happen and just don't work out, and this

806
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: and this and this and it's gonna be like a

807
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: whole lot of things. This was just, you know what

808
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying, This wasn't my first love, But at the

809
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: same time, it's like it was made for me, like

810
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: it was meant to be because I couldn't even run

811
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: away from it if I could, because the nigger damn

812
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: tried to know what I'm saying, so nice like being

813
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: in your early twenties and answeringness, that's a whole different

814
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: ball game. And I kind of like appreciate being able

815
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: to like have the mind and not be like jaded

816
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: by certain things. And a little small ship kind of

817
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: affect me that in the same way that it could

818
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: affect some other type of people that's in these same

819
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: type positions of power and getting a certain type of blessings,

820
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: like whether it's financially or just like fame or success

821
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: or whatever you may call it. It's funny because you

822
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: talk about now we gotta talk about that. That's the movie.

823
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: That's like, I know you must have been really piste

824
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: off disappointed at first when it wasn't part of the album, right, Yeah,

825
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: so that's how you intended how we listen to Forever story.

826
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: It should end that way with that song. It's an autobiography,

827
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: So people that may not be fully a tuned, like

828
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: why is that so important to telling that story? Like

829
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: what was what was your mind state putting that song together? Essentially,

830
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: I was trying to tell the story from kind of

831
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: like then to to now, you know what I'm saying.

832
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: It was it was a time period I was like,

833
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: who do I want to tell this story from, like

834
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: the fromt the beginning, you know what I'm saying, from

835
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: the where I now am now until where it was

836
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: or vice version. It was a couple of It was

837
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: a couple of ways I'm trying to go about that,

838
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: but that end and it kind of feels like a

839
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: last call is type thing, you know what I'm saying,

840
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Like the cold in on the sideline story exactly, just

841
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: those type of moment the origin stories like it gave

842
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: the whole summary of the album, and that if you

843
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: didn't even listen the whole album. If you went to that,

844
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: you can kind of get the gist of the album,

845
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what I was trying to tell.

846
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: And then it was just like the closing golf of

847
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: the Never story. Because I like doing projects and like sequels,

848
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: like how I like to watch movies like Friday, Friday

849
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: After Next or whatever. Fun you know what I'm saying.

850
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: One too, I like you like that. Yeah, but I

851
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: gotta get the fake rap on it. Yeah, President dreaming,

852
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: Eve sounded like mL doom fakely bro. Yeah, why I

853
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't think that? Yeah, why do you go to m C. Yeah,

854
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: get the epet right show that's what we're probably coding

855
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: getting from you see, like one good verse and stuff

856
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: around it. But um, but even cold like cold with

857
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: the ending and the whole city you wrote that for

858
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: you come on count sure, but I have a whole vision.

859
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: I want you to do this, and Co comes at

860
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: the end like yeah, actually specifically his part, I'm here

861
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: playing the record and on the record, actually, says Eve said.

862
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: Around that time, we was hunting for a record, and

863
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you're sitting right there like, actually go

864
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: say this. You know what I'm saying, because this is

865
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: how you explain the story to me. So I just

866
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: gave him a chance of like, you know what I'm saying,

867
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: not a lot of people to do that. I feel like, yeah,

868
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: not a lot of people to do that. I feel

869
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: like Punch was on add So album, but Punch really

870
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: get it in. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna

871
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: say your father saying what you between the verses, Yeah,

872
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: like did you write that's a sick ne Bro. I

873
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: felt like your father was so happy. We can say

874
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: he came from my nuts brow him pausing myself. Now

875
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta Paul got to but he was excited

876
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: to get off. Yeah, bro, my dad, my father. He

877
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: literally I didn't tell him one word to say these

878
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: things he said to me my whole life. You know

879
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He got that off himself that first. Yeah,

880
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: he's crazy crazy, He's literally he's literally like just like

881
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: that up there, and he's been saying those things to

882
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: me my whole life. And then that story, even the

883
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: way we put it together and chopped it up, it

884
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: was just like perfect because it's like you would think

885
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: he was sitting on that for years. Yeah, what was

886
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: the vision of Cold. Then how did that? How did

887
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: that come together? Just literally, I necessarily he didn't have

888
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: to rap on this album. You know what I'm saying, Like,

889
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: I feel like that is literally like escape get Cold

890
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: now people list doing. I'm cool, Like just just say

891
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: a few words, you know what I'm saying. Just give me,

892
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: like your perspective on this whole story. I just told

893
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and let me understand, like

894
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: how you feel. He gave me exactly what I needed.

895
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: It was one thing that was missing from that song.

896
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: It was a part while I was speaking my Doughburger

897
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: if y'all know that is yeah, I mentioned him because

898
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: Dolburg was one of the first people like bro, like

899
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: you crazy, You're a star, keep going. You know what

900
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He made me that and I just wanted

901
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: to have him saying song on one of the parts

902
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: I said on the song as well. But you know, um,

903
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: what's your take on what Cold said about like artists

904
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: come in that it cost every artist that's hungry they

905
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: want to be on. But he said, you had a

906
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: certain look that there's a certain extra level of determination

907
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: that like you can pick up on you feel like

908
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: because and also you said it to like yays talk

909
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: about you could have been with coach k quality control,

910
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: that was an opportunity. Like you obviously love your situation now,

911
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: but it's like you felt like, no matter what, I'm

912
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: going to figure it out and be successful. So what

913
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: is the artist to like have that extra determination that

914
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: was kind of like en stilled to me, kind of

915
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: like just just having to work ethic, you know what

916
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that probably came from my previous being

917
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: in sports and all that stuff. But at the same time,

918
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: it's just something that's kind of injured in you. I

919
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: love music. I fell in love with it, and ever

920
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: since I have been able to turn back. Like I'm

921
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: gonnaddicted to us. All I think about like every single

922
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: second of the day. It's like one of the most

923
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: important things I could do was just like find something

924
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: to make my craft better and just add to that.

925
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just it's it's such a

926
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: blessing to be able to create. Yeah, just create, you

927
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just find something and put it

928
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: together and make something, not nothing. So I don't know,

929
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I just take it very important. It's not important, but seriously, absolutely,

930
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: Is that why you're bringing back the three verses? Man? Yeah,

931
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I've been doing We're doing three just we're gonna have

932
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: at least one song gonna happen my favorite, my favorite though,

933
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: and I know be that picked it up a little way.

934
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: You get a little to get a little way into

935
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: your album, which again is like a little way to

936
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: my album. And you want him to body it because

937
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: he's a little way show and he did, and he did,

938
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: but then just like I'm coming back with a verse,

939
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: you have to. It's just crazy. He went crazy. You

940
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: gotta follow up, right, Mac. I talked to mcman after after,

941
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: because MacMan handle a lot of He's like, I like

942
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: how you did that, well, I like how you came

943
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: back does it's a lot of doesn't verse just like

944
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you eight It's just right, I give

945
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: you a little like show some love and all that.

946
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like I just had to

947
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: do that because I've seen him do that to people before,

948
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: and I just think he would like appreciate somebody actually

949
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: giving that type of effort, regardless of how great he did.

950
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: When you said, like, you know, three verses of the

951
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: new Wave, My bad. I don't make the rules. Why

952
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: do you think Why do you think but he said,

953
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, my vague didn't make the rules. Why do

954
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: you think, like three verses aren't as prominent as that

955
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: you were before? I got a whole little theory. I

956
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: think we even the time period win right now, we've

957
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: seen so much great rap, We've seen it evolved past levels.

958
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: Anybody could everything the potency of like lyricism and rapping

959
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: and really being able to put that ship together. It's

960
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of like dying off a little bit mm, which

961
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: is I don't know. It's a it's a giving take

962
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: because if you think about who the biggest artists in

963
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,479
Speaker 1: the game are, they can still bought you up. Yeah,

964
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: and they actually still lyricists if you actually think about it,

965
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: but it's just very few and far between that you

966
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: get that connection between mainstream man lyricism. So it's it's

967
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: a fine it's a fine line, and it's and it's

968
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: hard trying to navigate that road or whatever. It's kind

969
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: of like the road I'm on right now, you know

970
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm sucking it up, though I think

971
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. It's definitely a hard road. To

972
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: navigate for you like to be more like a leader

973
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: in the space right to be yeah, way, so maybe

974
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: you'll inspire casts to be like you know what, maybe

975
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: I should try to put together yeah verse even like

976
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: you said eight bars ten bars bars to be effective.

977
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: But what my message is yeah and yeah, I just

978
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: think it's a it's easier to get away with just

979
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, sneaking the song out there.

980
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: Everybody loves and it life is he great? It's this person?

981
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Right do we just like this moment and want to resondent?

982
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in that space. That's like

983
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: an unsure space. So financial stability, I'm not dooling in that.

984
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: It's a little vibration lottle bank account. Don't he gonna know?

985
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Like with you, you know you're great or you don't

986
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: even work with it, but I know it don't take

987
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: a million fans to be a millionaire. I've done that.

988
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: But you also ill about you listening to this project,

989
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: it sounds like you still have that competitive nature in you,

990
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: like even like just in time to say you tell

991
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: your favorite rappids for jamatim, but like you still the best.

992
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: I always call to you. I feel like I did.

993
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, two. I maybe did features some of

994
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: that upward number or something like that. I don't know,

995
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: just that you gotta have it. That's like you were

996
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: saying what you said. Really it's not hip hop hip

997
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: like it's kind of like a hip hop purious thing

998
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: that I try to add into my music. Like I

999
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: try to check these certain box this and then I'm like,

1000
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: all right, this is some ship. This is the future,

1001
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: this is what I think is the next thing. Just

1002
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: try and ship or whatever. So yeah, I try to

1003
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: keep those hip hop piers things going on and rep

1004
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: for the old you know what I'm saying for because

1005
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: that ship fined too. Like we had Joey Badass on

1006
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: the show, and you know he's asked him like, who

1007
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: is his only competition besides you know, the Big Three?

1008
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: First person? He said, my dog in a respectful competitive way, right,

1009
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: So like, do you who do you look at as

1010
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: someone that's like competition besides besides the Big Dude. As recently,

1011
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: I've only been looking at them niggers though, Like I

1012
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: fought with everybody. It's cool, but I don't really be

1013
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: thinking it's that close. I really be looking up to

1014
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: them though, liked for show, and I'm trying to like,

1015
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not for this, but get

1016
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: my way into that. Like that's why he's just gonna

1017
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: take more music, more output. I'm not really like a

1018
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: internet like, oh I'm one, I got a I'm not

1019
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: really like phones type n I'm really just a calm nigga.

1020
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: You know that's just moving and started type of I

1021
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: just think it comes to me, you know what I'm saying.

1022
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't really be trying to chase it. Yeah, I

1023
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad that you build your identity. Like

1024
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: even first, like people said, well he signed a cold

1025
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like Kendrick, I knew you would get that

1026
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. But like I feel like that's officially

1027
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: died with this album. Like I feel like this album

1028
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: was able for you, like show your substance who you are.

1029
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Everybody was trying to look at you one level. I

1030
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: feel like that talk has ended. It's just really the

1031
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: shot nigga ship, just shot nigga always like yeah, we

1032
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: just little nigga niggas aut hot boys, and like with

1033
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: Wayne is the same thing. Maybe if I was taller,

1034
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Like sounds like yeah, like it's just that thing. But

1035
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: I think at the same time, like it's just different things. Week. Yeah,

1036
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: get to know your story exactly. But I'm from the South.

1037
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I'm from Eastlanta, Broma, but like the b Club date

1038
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: from the from the West Coast. It's totally different things.

1039
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think if you really

1040
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: set down understood it broke it down like, oh, this

1041
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: is it it And I'm fine with the comparisons because

1042
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: it's like a great person be compared to. But I

1043
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: don't know, it's It's been a lot of a few

1044
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: comparisons my career. I'm not I'm not opposed to it.

1045
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't get mad at or nothing like that and

1046
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: take it. It's like, oh, I try to look at it,

1047
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: the silver line compared to the great, compared to exactly

1048
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: what anything else. Life is good. I mean, you don't

1049
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: have no reason. Everyone's more jealous of you now, like

1050
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to you being jealous of them. Talked about

1051
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: like on money, your friends, uher. Hopefully I'm getting the

1052
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: names right, No, no, no, you um right, yeah, the

1053
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: full circle moments because guy's still kicking, they're still doing

1054
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: their things. But at the same time, was the time,

1055
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: but I was like I wanted to be like you

1056
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the kids with the new Jay's

1057
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: and because we didn't like necessarily have all of that

1058
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah we're speaking up coming up, Like you

1059
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: also had a lyric on I think the system of me.

1060
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you were poor. Yeah that's a funny

1061
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: thing to realize when you're coming up and like, oh ship,

1062
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: we broke it in. But that was like a realization

1063
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: in my life. And I don't even know when that came.

1064
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: I to remember that feeling of being in some situation

1065
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: just like oh, like y'all got money like that, that

1066
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: wasn't the case for me. So that's what you see.

1067
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: It's a lot of full circle bombers for you, like

1068
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: the fact that like you're playing football, you went to

1069
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: school and the scholarship, you know, I got kicked out

1070
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: of school. Football dreams deflated. Now you're on the cover

1071
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: of your doing songs and MADO soundtrack, right, yeah, bro

1072
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: um full circle because I still be on the mad

1073
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: at Heavy. I'm still like a football like theme, you

1074
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, And then like there's a

1075
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: lot of full circle moments on it, like James Blake

1076
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: being on the album, like I don't know if you know,

1077
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: but it's like one of my favorite artists I've ever

1078
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: like work whatever, and even like I said, you're seen

1079
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: and in a little Wayne and like savage, like you

1080
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, All those guys are. There was

1081
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: just a bunch of moments on the project that I

1082
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: was super proud of and just wanted to like stand

1083
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: on top of the mountain and yell about it just

1084
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: because I think the next thing you gotta do is

1085
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: perform at Hampton University, Like, right, that would be fines here.

1086
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they I'm not sure if they

1087
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: day down to do that. I kind of want to.

1088
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: I kind of want to talk to him and be

1089
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: like yo, like no hard feelings type ship. Right, Yeah,

1090
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: but you gotta squash that beef be still going really,

1091
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that's that's a real beef for institutions. Really,

1092
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: but you know, crazy about the whole to imagine dragons

1093
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: like the song you did with them. Yeah, I'm sure

1094
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: it's cool. You know, you have a great area. You

1095
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: don't just stay in there pop box, but like to

1096
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: do that record that for come as big as it was.

1097
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably didn't see it was gonna become that.

1098
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: You know it was. I know, white money, but you

1099
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: need these things and target all the time. You play funny,

1100
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: touch this, touch this, then you know this is one

1101
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: of those ones that was gonna like explode. I love

1102
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: him first off, like Little Dragon, your favorite group, Little Dragon,

1103
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: my favorite group. A time you have a feature coming

1104
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: with them, we can't tell you about for sure. These

1105
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: are my people, um, but imagine, but imagine Dragons, just

1106
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: like off Top, I just knew who they were. Like

1107
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 1: I said, you're hearing fucking target, targeting and elevator everybody.

1108
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: So I heard the song and I was with Bro.

1109
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I told his story before, but I was with Mac

1110
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Miller met this man crib we're working on music, met

1111
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: him Portugal to man working on the song. It's crazy

1112
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: as hell, and I'm like, oh, she didn't work with

1113
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: these knicks. Um. I started the verse, Mac like cool,

1114
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: I don't know about if you start a verst like that.

1115
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: Next hour or so, I feel like Zeke or somebody

1116
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: sent me their own record, and Mac was like, Bro,

1117
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: you should start this song. How usually do that verse?

1118
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: And that was exactly and that was the fut of

1119
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: that I'm saying that ship. So it kind of sucked

1120
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: me up. But at the same time, when I finished

1121
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: the verse, I was like, oh, no, this is crazy,

1122
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: right because like this is one of the this is

1123
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: gonna be a moment. I knew it just because of

1124
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: the tempo, the past, the vibration, and I felt around

1125
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: it what I'm saying, but as artist, because like look back,

1126
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: we're still on the earth when it happened. It's around

1127
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: sound started. What if you believe in a certain song

1128
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: they talk about that like you have to like ride

1129
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: with that, like you gotta take longer than you think.

1130
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: But if you if you were tapped in, this is

1131
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: going to deliver what you want. But bill and streams

1132
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy, little comfort billion streams, I have

1133
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: a bill or scrape Billy, Like it's craziness. Even your

1134
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: main a better day. You said you made a million

1135
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: off merch pay the bills first and then invest in

1136
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: the guest verse we're saving up for no, no, no,

1137
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: I was saying, like I invest the money they pay me,

1138
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: invest against versus. Ok, you go, there, you go, But

1139
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about that money record like and what's stepicaus

1140
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: to what that was? And you have to make a

1141
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: little video. I pried with mamator no, but that like,

1142
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: it's not like when you talk about money, people can say, well,

1143
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: that's like superficial that surface, but that's the extra level

1144
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: to what I think you're trying to express that. Yeah,

1145
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: I wish you're trying to break down the layers to it,

1146
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: um and just give an insight on how Like I

1147
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: feel like the line was ironic that being broke is

1148
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: an expensive lifestyle. I said. Somebody asked me, like, what

1149
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm like, damn, you must have never

1150
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: been broke. It's literally like being broke is very fucking

1151
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: it spensive because if you don't have money and then

1152
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: everything is expensive. It's literally black and white, um. And

1153
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: just trying to just break down the my perspective in

1154
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: the position money stood in my life, it stood at

1155
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: in my life and just trying to see my way

1156
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: through that or whatever. And it's all different perspective of

1157
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: how people see money. Some people see it's like, uh,

1158
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: the end all be all. Some people see it as

1159
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: a tool, you know what I'm saying, But I don't know.

1160
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: Just seeing how my parents dealt with like not having

1161
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: the motion, just seeing like the deficit between the community

1162
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: and just and even seeing my friends with wealth and

1163
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: being a part you know what I'm saying, being a

1164
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: part of that class that has a little bit more

1165
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: like it's just a different thing and you gotta learn

1166
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: through you know what I'm saying. Nobody could actually really

1167
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: teach you unless you come from it. So even me,

1168
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: like being blessed in certain situations, just it's kind of

1169
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: hard for me like decipher if I'm making the right

1170
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: decision and all that that ship black, Yeah, trying to

1171
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: figure it out, bro Like wanted economic empowerment exactly, equity

1172
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: all of that ship Like ownership is really like one thing,

1173
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: like I'm going after just trying to own everything I

1174
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: possibly can in my name more to like people that

1175
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: I care about. On that stage. January twenty two, Tour

1176
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: Kick Sauce, Seattle, First stop, Yeah, first stop, man, Then

1177
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: we're getting on the list the spot. She was the

1178
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: one lyric that you did say, you said, I think

1179
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: it's something third verse of I forget which song was,

1180
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: but he was coming off a tour with somebody and

1181
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: you just bleep it out. But what was that about

1182
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: I was you don't it ain't even have it was

1183
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: it was oh that guy, Yeah, okay, I just leave

1184
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: it out. Okay, go bleep that out too. Did the age? Well, no,

1185
00:56:52,400 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: it did? Was you know what though I don't know

1186
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: why I did that? You did? I did a whole

1187
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: ahead of everything. I wasn't even I don't have no

1188
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 1: issues or anything like that, but just I just didn't

1189
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: feel it just didn't feel right. Yeah, like into you know,

1190
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: to touch such a situation. So we'll stay awfu At

1191
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: the same time, I certainly awesome that to that? All right?

1192
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: How do you feel like I got your You said

1193
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: the top five. I think you said, no, not beat

1194
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: that top five, but you got top five. Man, he

1195
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: had a great album, great crazy features. I think the

1196
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: one with you and Mike domes Home remixes extremely underrated.

1197
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: Why do you rappers care about this? Guy's list? Started?

1198
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Um something, You started something. But it's just that even

1199
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: with some situations like I ain't get it, I ain't

1200
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: get my Grammy, no, no this year it's fine, or whatever,

1201
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: but when people speak, But when people speak me, that's

1202
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: all that matters. Bro. When when when the good speak,

1203
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: you got listening up? So it's a good night, my dog.

1204
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: Keep keeping going, bro keep But I'm gonna gonna say,

1205
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: you gotta put some women on your list. I'm gonna

1206
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: say that's that right there. And look at the time.

1207
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Is this a lot of a lot of rough roughly

1208
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: elbows on who? Do you appreciate the landscape out here?

1209
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: Do you think it's like, you know, um some working

1210
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: out here who is fired right now? Women in see

1211
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: I like the on the REDDA line that you had

1212
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: on that was that was really real slick, real slick.

1213
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: Lola Brook is hard hard, and you know like I

1214
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: feel like all the women are like really doing anything

1215
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: right energy Ricky Recast, it's a lot of it feels

1216
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: sure it was dominent person. Yeah it was. It's always

1217
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: like there's like a male driaming industry. But I feel

1218
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: like we buries being broke down a little bit and

1219
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: everybody's like really just kicking flavor. I want to see

1220
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: like the next like Superstar, the next stars that bread

1221
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: through the door. I kind of feel like we have

1222
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: buddy superstars right now. What do you think it takes

1223
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: that stup? Because I feel like to the level that's

1224
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: you right, like your buddy Superstar to get to that

1225
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: superstar thing, Like what do you think of some of

1226
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: those steps to like it's really going to take that

1227
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: person to that like a scandal that it's taking do.

1228
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: It's a harder orld to not do that. It's a

1229
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: harder old yeah, yeah, pusha for that's literally the easiest

1230
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: way to just be crazy online or whatever. Oh no,

1231
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just stay on the right, just

1232
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: like good music, just being a good nigger, like you

1233
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just putting on for like the

1234
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: things I care about that the struggles that that represent me,

1235
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, that represent what what where

1236
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: I come from, and just show you like a true

1237
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: per spative of We don't keep streaming after the story.

1238
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: See you on that tour. Yeah, y'all push it on,

1239
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: push up please, but pull up on you man. Yes.

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01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: Podcast Rapperator is an interval presents original production from hyper House,

1241
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: produced by Laura Wasser, hosts and producers Elliott Wilson and

1242
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: Brian B. Dot Miller. Hermidavo presents executive producers Alan Coy

1243
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: and Jay Kleinberg, Executive producer Paul Rosenberg, editing his sound

1244
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: design by Dylan Alexander Freeman, recording engineer Xavier Hayes. Special

1245
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:36,160
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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: a War Operations lead Sarah You, Business development lead Chef

1247
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,760
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