WEBVTT - Thomas Lennon Returns 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:04.400 The Craig Ferguson Pants on Fire Tour is on sale now. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:07.880 It's a new show, it's new material, but I'm afraid 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:12.480 it's still only me, Craig Ferguson on my own, standing 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.800 on a stage telling comedy words. Come and see me, 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.520 buy tickets, bring your loved ones, or don't come and 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.400 see me. Don't buy tickets and don't bring your loved ones. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.000 I'm not your dad. You come or don't come. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.160 But you should at least know what's happening, and it is. 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.160 The tour kicks off late September and goes through the 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.000 end of the year and beyond. Tickets are available at 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:36.960 the Craig Ferguson Show dot Com slash tour. They are 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.080 available at the Craig Ferguson show dot com slash tour 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.600 or at your local outlet in your region. My name 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.680 is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast is Joy. 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:53.280 I talk to interest in people about what brings them happiness. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.960 On the podcast today is one of my oldest friend. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.000 Well he's not old at all. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.120 I'd find he's younger than me, but he's which doesn't 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.560 make you young by any stretch of the imagination. But 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:11.360 he's a lovely man and a good friend of mine 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.240 and an excellent member of the show business community. He's 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.840 a writer, he's an actor, and he hasn't mustash. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:27.560 His name's Tom Lennon. This is good. This is like 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:28.560 being in CNN. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.080 So you finally got the chair of your dreams that 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:32.880 you were dreaming about, and. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.960 You know, this is this chair is It's from a 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:38.600 I don't know if you've heard of this company. 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.280 They're very, very exclusive. Is what they do is that you. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:49.240 Buy the chair in a flat pack form, and then 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.160 you have the chair and it gets delivered to your 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:57.360 house by Vikings and then that's a clue to the 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:02.400 column people. Yeah, and then but luckily, what you have 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.960 to do is you have to hide while the Vikings raid, 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.360 pillage and all the other stuff they do. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:13.160 They do. Yeah, yeah, they do a lot as a 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.400 result from stuff. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.200 I mean, do you know that the Vikings were actually 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.120 I'm just turning the sound up so I can hear 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:26.200 you bear. Vikings were the most prolific traders and slaves 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:26.960 in human history. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.679 Apparently that seems like attracts also, could I say it 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.240 feels a lot like when you went to the catalog 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.560 for the chair. You just had a fever dream about 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.440 the show Dynasty and everybody, and like the shoulder pads 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.520 on all these foxy eighties ladies. See what I'm saying, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:45.160 it's got a foxy Are. 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.880 You saying you think it's a folksy? It feels like 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:48.680 is a bit shoulder. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.639 It feels like in a nightmare where Angie Dickinson as 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.000 like an eighties sex pot where she's gonna go. She 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:01.520 was absolutely it wasn't his. So let's say some evil 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:06.160 wizard was like Angie Dickinson, you shall now live as 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:06.640 a chick. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.560 You shall spend it as a chick, now that you 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.760 have done so many evil deeds. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.160 But wait for. 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.520 You, you shall sit under Craig Ferguson for the rest 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:20.519 of your life. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.320 First of all, there's a flow in your logic here, 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:27.880 because Angie Dickinson, whilst the gorgeous eighty six. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.120 Not evil in any well, no, you're not evil at 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:32.560 all or delight delight. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:36.760 And also I noticed that your evil wizard was English 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:42.960 and also Irish. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:42.680 So I don't I don't think that. 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.360 Well he started off, he started he always they always 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.480 land a little bit Irish, you know, it's better than 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:48.839 land Land over that way. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.160 Well, my, when I do accent work, it's usually can 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.400 you do a Scottish accent? And I say yes, that's 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.440 pretty much it. The only English I did an English 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:00.520 voice and Drew Carry show. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.600 But that was bad. That was a bad English one. 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:03.440 Let's go to a clip. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.680 Craig Ferguson from Drew Carry. Oh, I'm gonna fire you 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.520 right away. Get the hat out of here, Drew Carry. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.120 My name is Craig Ferguson. No, no, it was mister Wick. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.080 It was mister Wegg. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.520 Okay, so I said, carry, you're fired. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:20.200 Oh, very good. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.479 I went for port. I went for Porch before Nawby 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.479 before it was cool. It's still not cool. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.560 But I just learned something about British people, you know 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.799 who live, you know, very close to you in Scotland. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.320 The British people. Did you know that? Very like until 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.360 our childhood you could go to a shop in the 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:47.680 in the the East End and get jellied eels to eat. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.359 Oh oh wait wait you can still. You can still 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.599 go to stores in the East End of London and 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:59.520 get jelly deals. It's a delicacy. How well you go 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.360 into this or first of all, you get on your 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.039 flat cap. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.599 Yeah, I go in I'm doing now, I'm doing some 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:12.360 pretty weird yeah, thumb thumbs in your raise. Go oh shit, Okay. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.680 You go into the store to say jelly deals please, 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.320 and they say why certainly, And they don't put. 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.000 You in a straight jacket and take you this, say 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.080 we're taking you to the lunatic asylum because no one 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:24.919 would eat todays. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.840 No, they eat jelly deals. And the thing is, the. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.400 Eels are very good near the sewage outlets because you 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.279 know what eels like to eat, so the eels that 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.080 they eat. 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.159 Threw that out so casually, No, we don't know what 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.480 they'd like to eat. Do eels eat poop? There are 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.880 saying eat something like poop or something I don't want to. 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.320 Yeah, I think eels eelsily anything in organics, and that 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.880 includes you know, they don't. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:52.839 Know it's poop their eels. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.440 They just think, Wow, what's all this amazing delicious stuff 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:56.320 coming out of this pipe. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.080 They don't know it's poop. It's probably got other eels. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.919 God with this thing went sideways quick. I'm sorry I 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.919 asked about it. I just thought you'd probably know about 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.440 it as it's a delicacy from nearby. You. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.200 Well, English people eat well Cockneyese. Basically they call them 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.719 Cockneyes because they eat. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.599 The cock was a totally different reason. I've always assumed. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.400 I heard Michael Caine and I when I heard Coxes, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.840 I just thought, Wow, this guy seems I thought his 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.320 acting was amazing. I didn't know. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:32.719 It's that that's their favorite in the East end of London. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.520 That's why they have That's why they have their thumbs 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:40.400 and their waistcoats for balance. It's about center of gravity. Uh, 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:41.200 they have to. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.560 They have to hold themselves back thumbs and his in 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.000 order weight the weight. 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.599 Would the eel were back to their jellied deal would 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.000 just tip them straight forward they'd go. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:55.839 But here's the thing. But here's the thing. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.680 That's only male cocknes, female cognies female. He's actually the 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:06.520 correct name for a female cockney is a magni. 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.080 Magnigne. 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:11.960 Yeah, because of cockney in a agny. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.080 Anyway, I'm dying to try some of these jellied eels 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.720 once I get back to that part of the world. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.600 Well, you know that you can get you get maguru, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.480 isn't that No, that's tuna. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.880 But there you eat. You can get eels in sushi. 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.200 Rest So Japanese people eat eels and and and buy 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:29.080 the extension. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.720 People who enjoy Japanese food eat eels. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.120 Your I know your how your family is a big 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.480 Marmite family. You're a Marmite guy or aters? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.720 but that there's no eels in marmite. It could be 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.200 that could be just takes no, no, it takes one 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:44.120 genius to do that. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:50.640 No, no, no, that's absurd. Tom, marmaie is a vegetarian treat. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.600 You add eel to it, It's not gonna work. 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.600 I would actually think if I'm gonna eat an eel 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.920 and anyway, Marmont's going to be my way out, Marmite's 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.360 going to be the only going to be the only 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.240 way to get me to the other side of this tunnel. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.160 Oh you mean like for taste taste wise, I need 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:11.480 something that. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:13.920 I never had, never tried. 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.440 Deal. No, IM not going to do it, never had it, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.160 Not going to do it. Have you ever been to Japan? No, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.200 I haven't. See. 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.520 Now you have to get yourself to Japan. Now, I 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.760 went to a sushi restaurant in Japan. Now, I said 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.080 before I went, I was just like you. I was like, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.960 I will never eat I never And I went to 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.600 Japan and I went to have you ever seen the 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.959 documentary Guo Dreams of Sushi? 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.920 Only like a million times? I know that. Did you 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:38.960 go to that place? 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:44.120 I went to that exactly, Jero, Yes, it was. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.120 He nice to you. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:51.760 He he was okay because I've heard I heard I 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.480 heard he's a little stand off. Well, no, I think 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.160 he's formal. I think he's very he's very formal. It's 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.320 very manners. And I went to the restaurant with Milo 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.000 thirteen at the time. Right, So Mylein and I go 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.120 to this restaurant because we had watched the documentary, and 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.520 we go in and and they just. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.640 Gito sign just tells you what you're going to have. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:12.240 Yeah you can't. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.760 Yeah, yeah, you don't get to choose. It's like, here's 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.720 what it is. And if you've seen the documentary, you'll 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.400 know that his son is really big. 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:22.760 Take sushi said the. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.719 Sun is how they got the Michelin star repairs or 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.000 the ray exactly. Was he's a three? Yeah, I mean 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.040 it's I think he's a three. He's a three star, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.800 which is the highest it goes. And then they took 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.160 one away because it's too hard to get a table. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.880 So and he agreed. He had agreed. He said, that's okay, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.959 you can take one away. But one of the rules 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.120 of Michelin Stars is I think his restaurant, how many seats, 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.760 how many seats are in the restaurant total. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:49.680 It's not big. 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:53.280 It's it's about size, a little, little little diner. It's 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.280 like a little diner. It wasn't busy when I was 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.640 in you. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.080 If I've been to your you have a bigger sushi 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.040 restaurant in your. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.240 Else in my house, I've been there. 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:03.200 I've seen it. 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:07.840 The person in my house I've never been. Sometimes I 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.880 go to the areas of my house, I'm. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.360 Like, wow, look at this chair, and you've got that 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:14.920 weird karaoke place over there. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:20.320 Yeah, it's it's pretty big. But here's the thing. Though 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.920 I've moved back to America to I know, I keep keep. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.000 Tabs on you. I keep tabs on you a little bit. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.040 I live in New England. Though. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.400 I actually had a party this summer and I was 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.520 invited you to come to the party in the summer 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:32.319 and you and you didn't. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:32.800 You didn't come. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.480 I know, I didn't make it. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.719 I do want to come though I'm dying to come. Yeah, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.840 you know why I should come here. We we have 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.559 eels like you would be. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.320 You know why I couldn't come. I couldn't come because 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.080 I had to go do I got. I got. I'd 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.480 agreed to do something, and I forgot when it was happening. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.000 But have you ever done one of these? I never 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.720 would do it. I would never would do it except 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.800 the you know how the movie business is in a 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:58.640 giant recession. Well from all shows. For me, it is. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.319 So I hear you. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.920 I did the first ever, and I'd always been sort 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:04.720 of dubious about these, but I had. I went and 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.800 did a I had to do. I had to do, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.520 I got to do. It was really fun. I did 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.760 a fan convention. I'd never done a fan convention. All right, 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.319 it's a really you've never done one. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.680 I supplied demand, my friend. I don't have enough fans. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.240 Oh no, you definitely have enough fans, you you do. No, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.040 not enough for a convention, maybe enough to for if 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.080 we all went to the sushi restaurant. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.560 I'll tell you, Michelin, I'll. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.880 Tell you right now. Not everybody at the fan convention 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:42.440 has enough fans for a convention. Some folks definitely do. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.199 Some folks definitely do. You'll meet some real you'll meet 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.520 some real interesting folks at the fan convention. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.600 Oh wait, is it a fan convention that that like 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.040 they first of all, here and here's the main my 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:54.640 main content. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.800 Do they pay you to go? Yes? Okay? Good? 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.880 So I'm still listening and say, is it fans of 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.840 Reno ninety one one? Is it fans fans the idea 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.520 of show business in general? 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.160 So like, here's a perfectly logical one corner of the 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.280 fan convention that makes perfect sense. Ready is me and 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:22.560 then Dennis Rodman and then Priscilla Presley, just the way 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.800 that you always pictured us. You know how they sell 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:26.960 that ice cream that's like three if you can't decide 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.640 what you want, you know, Neapolitan. I think it's called 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:31.440 after the Flag. 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.680 I'll have Rodman, Presley, Lennon please, But you don't. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.320 Know, you're like, yeah, I don't want that much of 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.040 any one of those three, But that for one corner 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.800 in one beautiful place in Pittsburgh. This year, the Neapolitan 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.400 ice cream flavor of three tables in a row Priscilla 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.520 Lieutenant Dangle number ninety one, Dennis the Worm Rodman, And 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.560 it makes if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.959 Well in a fan convention, So describe the few. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:06.520 Know, it's a very fun bunch. It was just it's 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.160 a little it feels a little bit like you're at 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.560 comic con. You know, it feels like you're at its people. 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.040 You know, it's the it's uber fans. I'll say this. 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.840 I've been on. You know I've been on and I 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.160 know you've done this too. I've been on a couple 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.320 of book tours when I've written a novel and gone 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.560 out with a book, and you know who shows up 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:28.120 at bookstores? Yeah, almost no one. Oh yead, no, that's true. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:29.120 Oh god, it's. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.400 I've been sitting in so many books, especially especially no. 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.480 I mean, look, I'm a very booky person, as you 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:35.839 can tell. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.920 You've been bragging about your literacy for years. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.599 Yeah, I'm like, I'm a reader. But I don't I 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.320 can't tell you the last name I read a book. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.720 It's hard with all the business of I don't know 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.760 on my last pictures of eels. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.679 My last novel and stuff, my last novel that I wrote. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.000 I had a book I went to had a book 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.280 event up in San Francisco, just kind of just outside 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.000 San Francisco. And I'm like, this is going to be 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:08.200 so cool something like that. This could have been, yeah, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.120 could have been. And I got to the book event 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.959 and there were twelve people at the book event, Craig, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.680 you ready, and six of them were my cousins. Six 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.960 of them. Six of them was the San Francisco branch 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.280 of the Lenons, of which there's a pretty big there's 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.760 a lot of San Francisco Lenins. And thank goodness because 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.040 they showed up for the book, the book event, because 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:30.640 otherwise you're not always going to get folks at the 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.080 book event. You know. 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.040 It's funny. Now you surprised me. I don't think that. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.479 I didn't know the Irish went to San Francisco. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.240 Oh yes, yes, yes, so the Irish went to San 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.000 Have you not seen the picture called dirty Harry Callahan. 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.440 Oh that's true. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.840 Yes, not only that, my uncle Mike Lenin speaking out. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.400 So Michael Lennon, my father's older brother, was a captain 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.680 on the San Francisco Police Force for like forty something years. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.000 Well, that's that's that's the police though, all the police. 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:08.040 No, No, that's what we do we're Yeah. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.040 Until ninety about nineteen eighty seven, every policeman in the 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:11.000 United States. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.600 That's what we're doing, and many of most of them 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.640 were my cousins, many or most of them. 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.760 Yeah, well that's Ireland, and then that's the Viking things. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.640 That's a good job for us. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.920 It seems to work out a couple of iris. No, No, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.400 it doesn't at all, likes you know, and I think 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.400 about it. 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.160 It's one of the reasons though, that I always felt 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.720 very comfortable in Boston, because I felt like I looked 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.040 like every call in the city. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:39.040 I lastic if I was doing like a Muppet Christmas Carol, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.400 where there's a Boston cop Ferguson, you're my number one. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.560 Really he would be like, oh my god, number one, Like, well, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:50.160 first of all, are you doing them up at Christmas Carol? 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.160 Are you ready for this? You're ready for this? And 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:54.720 I made a sort of a joke about that. I 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.520 think that's because in my subconscious the state is working 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.400 on a Do you ever remember a state sketch called 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:06.440 Porcupine Racetrack that I wrote, Oh no, we didn't do it, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:07.920 we did it, We do it live. At the end, 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.600 I come out in the Porcupine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.960 kind of working on we're working on a musical of 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.600 that with Brian Henson's company. Do you know Brian Henson, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:18.240 he's the heir. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:18.840 I do know. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.200 I know Brian very well. Actually, we've not made a 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.160 bunch of television show. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.640 That's what we're doing right now. He and I are 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:24.480 not making something. 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.160 He's a lovely guy. I love making television. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.600 Close to having almost not made something with him. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:38.520 Yeah, that's I have not made about four great TV 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.200 shows when Brian had I think he is a lovely man, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.680 though so lovely. Did you get two of the studios 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:46.600 against the studios? 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:47.000 We did? 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.040 We got to go in that crazy meeting room, so 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:50.480 it's not I mean, it's so crazy. 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:55.040 It's Chaplain Studios. It was Charlie Chaplin Chaplin's the studios 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.280 in Hollywood. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.440 And they recorded We Are the World there, which I'm 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:05.160 sure you've seen the documentary Wait Tonight that's recorded at Yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.320 when it was then it was a music company for 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.720 a long time. Uh, And they recorded because I think 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:11.840 right there. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.600 I think I think I did hear that, because I 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.880 think they had also said that the carpenters had recorded. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:25.719 Very very likely Karen Carr. Karen carpenters as a drummer. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.960 Karen Carpenter is a great drummer. Let's go to a 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:34.600 clip and we're back. What I mean, Yeah, those great 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:35.520 Karen Carpenter clip. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.880 So, no, we're working, we're working on I'm gonna act 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.919 like we're working on it and it's gonna work out fine, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:42.320 you know, and just. 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:51.200 Let's let's just say it's going on if you know 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.399 it's in television right now, though, I mean this is true. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.560 I think it's certainly true for me. Like I I'm like, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.400 I'm not involved in television right now. Whenever I pitch 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.240 anything to anyone, they're like, oh that's great. Now I 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.200 never hear anything again. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.760 I'm in a very weird place where I do, you know, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.879 Like I'm writing a show for Fox that I've been 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.719 writing for about two years now. But then I'll have 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.960 like auditions for like roles that you would think I 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.120 could just get, you know, like they like recently auditioned 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.680 for like weird guy who's in charge of the pickleball 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.640 rules at Like weird guy. They're like fifties mustache, persnickety 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.399 asshole who's in charge of the Pickleballs committee, and I'm like, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:31.960 I have to audition for this. 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.600 Well, here's I had the same thing. Somebody said, I 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:39.800 got the I got. Somebody said to me, they said, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.320 we'd like you to do a chemistry read with the 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.760 other star, and that we wanted to put you with 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.199 I went, well, I don't. I don't need to do 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.120 a chemistry what are you talking about? A chrimesty read 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.440 this part? By the way, was this recently? 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:55.520 Yes? 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.360 Was it this within this last year? 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.160 Definitely within the last six months. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.960 Did we did we read for the same role and 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.000 neither of us get it? Was it? Did you sign 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:09.280 a non disclosure agreement where you couldn't talk about it? 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:13.320 No? I didn't know. No, I did you did? All right? 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:14.320 Let me. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.720 Oh, because I because I wouldn't do the chemistry reading, 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:20.640 or you didn't even do it? 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.680 No, I'm like, you know, what can we get? 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.120 Can we get vaguely more specific? Was it it wasn't 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.359 for some Is it for okay, okay, people playing a 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.359 long concuss? Was it for a streaming service whose logo 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:34.719 is a famous bird? 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.000 Yeah? I believe it was. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:40.359 Yes, it was so it was for a streaming It 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:45.000 was a high end streaming show, beautiful sur famous for 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:48.200 showing off. It's beautiful plumage. And I'm not saying the 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:52.160