WEBVTT - Salty Dogs Podcast with Jack Cichy 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.000 What do you call two guys that were there when 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:06.040 this happened? Back to return at Spurlock, Michael Spurlock at 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.000 the chain, He's still the twenty, He's still the twenty 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:13.280 five to moret yarline history fifty forty, the thirty yards 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.800 Michael Rout, Michael Rut, Michael Run stop Tapper day, there 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.600 you go, and then sixty two yard for your goal attempts. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:30.639 It is God, God, God, God, box be Eagles. Who 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:35.440 can forget again? I'm looking again? They already Derek Bucks, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.640 direty touchdown tamp a day, Derek Books, Bubo spariable player. 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.400 You're the national football like third is the Daggers in 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.920 where are you gonna wear? The Super Bowl? We call 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.080 them the salty Dogs. Hey there everyone, you found us again. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.960 You are the salty Dogs coming at you all more time. Specifically, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.320 oh no, no, not one more time again again the 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:01.520 final time? Correct? Well, my just don't know it. Continue. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.160 My key cards still work this morning, So I feel 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.520 pretty good, by the way. Specifically, I'm Scott Smith and 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.200 I am Jeff and we are the Salty Dogs, and 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.960 we thank for joining us. And we have an exciting 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.520 guest today, And I mean that because I just feel 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.320 like he's a really high energy guy. Yes, Jack said you. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.440 You know that if you clicked on this and that's 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.640 and you're saying his name correctly. It's how you say 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:29.120 his last name, Cichy City, Yeah, Itchy Yeah. Okay, this 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:31.640 is new information to you. Well know, there have been 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:33.480 I have heard in different ways, but it's not the 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:38.440 right you know, since since there's no end, all right, 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.360 throwing it out there, okay, but don't but I want 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.360 to make sure I throw it away so you don't 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.160 make a mistake. So we're gonna have Jack with us, 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.040 and he's really honestly, you know, he's one of the 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.640 easiest guys on this team. Root. But anytime a person 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:51.920 has to come overcome multiple and I guess at this 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.800 point it's three going back to college knee injuries and 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.000 he's still going. You know, you got to be impressed 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.920 by that. At some point somebody, I'm not saying him, 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:02.880 but at some point somebody might just say that, all right, 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.400 this is that's enough enough. And not only that, but 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.880 his attitude is very good. He's just a real upbeat guy. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.200 So I like forward to talking to him. He looked 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.720 great in the preseason two. Yeah. Well, um, during Bucks 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:19.799 Radio after the Cleveland Brown game, Bruce Arians was talking 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.000 to us in the locker room after the game, like 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.320 we do every week or after every game, and uh, 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.839 he brought Jack up and said that his play right there, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.959 he made the teams and we were all like, dang, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.800 well they know, because they don't usually say that they don't, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.239 but and the coaches have said, they said several times 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.800 in the week before the Cleveland and in Dallas games 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:43.760 that there are guys that will make the team in 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.600 the next couple of weeks because we haven't made a 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.160 decisions on five to ten spots and it could be 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.040 personal against person B. And one of the guys is 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.839 gonna make the team by his playing the next couple weeks. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.200 And I don't know, maybe city already Jack was already 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:56.639 in a good spot before those games, but he was 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.600 phenomenal last two games. Well, you talk about making making 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.120 the team team and uh, when we were in Dallas 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.960 Thursday was the game we met with Bruce Arians, had 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.720 a production meeting, and Bruce pretty pretty good guy, was 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.519 pretty open about what was going on and solidify what 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.960 you were saying about open spots. He said, there are 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:19.200 seven he said, there are seven spots tonight, there are 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.920 that are going to get decided. Seven to ten gonna 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.919 get decide. And so of course we were all, you know, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.720 looking around and and a lot of it is you 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.840 know what you can do and if you could play 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.440 special teams, that's amazing how much you can hang onto 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.640 a team. Yeah, and I would imagine that a couple 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.080 of those spots where an outside linebacker, because it was 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.320 a little surprising to see Noah Spence play every snap 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.320 in the Cleveland game and a good number in the 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.000 UH in the final game when most of the quote 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.480 unquote starters because he was listed as a starter, were 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.400 not playing the game, He's really the only one. And 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.520 that had to show you that there was a job 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.800 in the balance there and so they didn't end up 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.040 keeping the and and coach just said, nobody worked harder. 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.440 He was great, he tried, He worked really hard all 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:05.680 the way up to that point, and he just said 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.240 that today. But it just came down to the amount 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.040 of production when he was on the field. And they 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.520 liked Damon Harris and they liked Patrick O'Connor, although Patrick 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:15.880 was later waived, and I think he said in the 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.440 press conference. We're trying to get him back. So that's 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.320 a couple of guys that just produced more and also 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.840 very much to your point, both Damon Harris and Patrick 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.560 O'Connor played special teams and were productive in that regard 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.560 as well. And you know, I think that that let's 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.400 see today's Tuesday. They did cuts Saturday and made a 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.800 move yesterday. I I you know, Bruce made a comment 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.880 in the very beginning when he first came to the 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.039 Buccaneers as the head coach, saying that they're always going 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.360 to be looking there, always if there is a guy 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.480 out there that they think they can help the team, 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.760 and I'll bring him in. So I I think there's 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.880 gonna not necessarily constant movement, but when you can put 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.440 guys on the practice squad or you know, you think 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.039 you can get them through, which is kind of scary. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.680 You know, if someone says, hey, I really want you, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.479 it's really good. I'm gonna cut you, but don't worry 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.280 about it. I'm gonna bring it back, so don't go anywhere. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.760 I mean, how do you deal with that? Yeah, I mean, 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.640 at least it must be somewhat comforting to be told, hey, 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.599 we value you. We just can't make the numbers work, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:18.520 but we want to keep you around. I mean, if 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.440 you get another opportunity, more power to you. But I'd 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:23.760 rather hear that then. Hey, listen, it's not gonna work. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.960 Can you imagine that in normal work life? You know, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:32.400 like you know, but stick around around. We may need 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:37.440 another radio guy. Yeah, listen, we got someone a little 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.360 stronger pipes than you have. But don't go too far. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.840 The voice is more molefulous than may work out, so 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.240 don't don't go. I would not enjoy that aspect no 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.680 of my employment. But the only reason why I bring 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.320 it up is because it's you know, people, I don't 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.480 you know, it's sports, so you don't think they're real people, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.599 and it's like, oh, he just got caught or whatever. 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.160 I mean, some of those guys that that's it up 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.360 at this end of their end of their dream. Yeah, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.280 the majority of them, we'll get another shot somewhere, and 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.679 you know, if they end up on the practice squad, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.719 like a bunch of them did, like say Bruce Anderson, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.640 Nick Fitzgerald, Um, Terry Beckner, the one draft pick that 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.559 was not kept on the fifty three. That's that's actually 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.279 a really good result for a lot of those guys. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.320 And let me give you an example. And I started 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.200 to look up on Sunday when I was writing a 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.560 story about our practice squad guys, who was on the 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.520 practice squad in the first week of last season. I 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.800 was surprised. I knew there would be some. I was 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.880 purrobably five of the ten guys that were on the 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.160 first practice squad last year, we're on the fifty three 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.640 man roster on Sunday to open the next season. That 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.160 shows you how valuable that practice squad is for both 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.039 team and player. So guys like dary On Goomba, Wally 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:47.919 Damon Harris. Uh. I think actually Patrick O'Connor was one 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.440 of them, and you know he was since released, but 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.800 he could come back. He could come back to go 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.440 in one year from practice squad to opening day roster. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.960 Bobbo Wilson was another one. So uh that that really 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.520 those guys, you know, I can't tell them how to feel, 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.720 and I'm sure every single guy who doesn't make fifty 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.280 three is disappointed in that, but I would hope that 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.760 they still feel pretty good about where they are. Yeah, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.320 And I also think it shows that the coaching staff, 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.480 the scouting staff. They see something in someone and right 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.680 now you're just not at that point. But we're not 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.440 gonna lose you. We're gonna figure out a way to 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:24.320 keep you. And they do. And uh, you talk about continuity, 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.080 you talk about all a lot of new guys, but 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.480 you just name five that have been around even though 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.680 they're new for the fifty three. Anything about the cuts 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.000 or the guys that made it that surprised you, I 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.040 would say the running back position was the only one 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.440 that made me kind of go that we went on 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.080 with only three. Yeah, but now it's four. Now it's 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:46.000 for today, yes, but yesterday it was that, Um no, 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.040 I don't, I don't. I wasn't. There was nothing that 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.280 made me go really. Um. That fourth running back, by 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.840 the way, is t J. Logan out of Arizona. Yeah, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.160 and coach was with the team when they drafted him 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.000 in two thousand seventeen, and they were very disappointed that 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.080 year because he, uh, I think he hurts something. I 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.400 can't think now what it was, shoulder maybe, and had 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.680 to end up on injury reserve. So Bruston, that was 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.600 Bruce's last year in years. So he came and played 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.720 last year and was very good on kickoff returns, and 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.800 he had a really good preseason average like six point 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.040 two yards for Carrie. According to coach, he has like 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.600 four point three speed and he's he's immediately he steps 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:27.119 in here and immediately becomes the they first string kickoff return. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.480 Coach said that today and the Bucks had success back 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.679 in oh two out of a running back from Arizona. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.880 Michael Pittman. Yes, I just when you were saying that, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.800 look at I'm looking for something to get together. I 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.959 can do you one up from there. Okay. So in 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.120 the two thousand and two draft, we didn't have a 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.400 first or second round pick because we had traded that 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.720 and other things for John Gruten and are the rights 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.520 to sign to hire John Gruden. And so our first 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.559 pick of that entire draft was a receiver out of 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.480 Michigan named Marquis Walker. Remember him, I do, well. I'm 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.679 surprised because he never really played. He don't believe he 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.080 got into a single game with us. He ended up 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.040 on injury reserve. He was he looked, he came in here, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.000 he saw this guy. He's a rookie. He looks like 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.719 he's thirty five years old, and he um so it 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:15.840 was not It didn't end up being a very good pick. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:18.199 And at the end of the year or sometime in 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.200 the next offseason, the Buccaneers basically was one of those 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.320 challenge trades where you trade your guy who's not working 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.439 out for their guys. Now we're gonna We traded Marquis 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.880 Hills trade up for Thomas Jones. Remember that running back 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.160 Thomas Jones had been a first round pick. I think 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.839 I won like seventh overall or something didn't really work 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.760 out in Arizona, had a couple of years or it 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.559 didn't really work out, so that trade happened. Jones comes 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.640 in here in oh three, and um, we had some 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.920 running back issues that guys got hurt, and he got 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.040 a shot second half of the season and did really, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.120 really well, and the next thing you know, he gets 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.839 this huge contract in Chicago and he went on to 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.439 have a pretty nice career with the Jets. He was 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.640 a nice guy too, Yeah, and so was I mean, 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.560 so was Michael Pittman us. Um, so yeah, there's there's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.200 a little bit area. So we should feel good about 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.599 getting air. It's just not just Bruce's connection to Arizona. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.439 There's you know, maybe maybe it's the mojo. Well, I 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.040 think it's exciting because we've needed a um kickoff returns 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.280 spark and uh, this guy was really good in college 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.040 on kickoff returns and he did well last year. Shot, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.679 were you surprised on the kicker who survived? No, of 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.319 course not no funny because that was still up in 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.400 the air from what from what they were telling us 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:32.240 on Thursday. But I think you say that to players, Yeah, well, 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.080 what what could Matt Gay have done in that last 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.040 game to lose the job? I mean, if he went 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.920 over three? Are you gonna ignore everything he did before that? No? 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.839 But I think there is. There was some concern on 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.160 the short ones, and so I think that was he 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.760 missed one thirty seven yards and it hit up right 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:50.920 because he was trying to play the win and it 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.080 didn't happen. I continue to think that's a silly argument 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.480 that he can't make short ones unless it's just all 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.800 a matter of concentration, because if you make a chase 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.040 all that's what it was. He kicks, stalked about it. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.520 He kicks the he kicks, His field goes pretty straight, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.679 So if he can make it forty eight, it should 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.760 go in from and where do you think Carlos sends him. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:12.360 I always thought it was gonna be the Bears, but 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.240 maybe it still will be. Because the guy missed the 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:20.679 extra point by like it's about his guys, We should 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.600 not laugh. I've seen We've seen our share of kicking issues. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.960 It's not it just at that level. He kept his job. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:32.360 So that's why I'm saying it's amazing. Maybe Minnesota because 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.559 they have um they just got a new putner because 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.640 the Browns cut their putterer. Well, Minnesota had had veteran 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.200 Dan Bailey, I think, but I don't think they were 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.439 thrilled with him because they traded I believe a fifth 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.800 round pick to Baltimore in August to get and I 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.480 can't pronounce his name, but the last name looks like 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.040 ved Vick to get their guy who is not going 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.360 to make their team because they have justin freaking Tucker, 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.240 who's the best kicker in the game. So it's amazing 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.079 that Baltimore got somebody to try him pick for a 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.880 guy they definitely were not going to keep. But he 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.600 goes to Minnesota and mrs I believe he missed every 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.160 kick in games that he tried, and they cut him 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.240 so if they weren't, if they could go, well we 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.800 got Damn Bailey, no problem. If they were happy with 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.720 Dan Bailey, wouldn't trade a fifth on pay for this guy. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.040 So maybe that's another opportunity for Cairo. If they don't 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.240 like Babe, Well, I hope, you know, I think, I 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.600 think he gets picked up. UM. I hope that UM 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.880 somebody will need a kicker before the season. Why wouldn't 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.880 you and I and I hope that um are kicking 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.120 problems are solved. Yeah, it's too early for us to believe, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.240 that's absolutely true, but it sure looks like it's head 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.480 in that direction. And that's good. Plus, we got two 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.400 guys that can kick off now because opinion, Duhn Mackay 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.160 can get it into the end zone pretty much whenever 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.160 they want to so and they and a lot of 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.560 that too when they in the preseason. We asked Bruce 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.200 why he wasn't kicking into the end zone and he said, 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:49.640 because we want to see him bring the ball out. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:50.960 We want to see how the other guys can come 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.240 and practice. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. He goes, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.079 we know he can put it in the end zone 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.559 anytime he wants and we probably will, yes, but we 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.040 want to see what our guys if they understand in 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.760 the scheme on how to tackle. So you know, it's 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.800 another thing that I find interesting that I hadn't thought 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.599 about it until, like coach said it. I think a 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:11.000 week or two ago, when you have a good kickoff 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.280 return man that teams know is good, they're more likely 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.880 to kick it for a touchback, which is fine, you 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.400 get the ball to twenty five. I mean I would rather, honestly, 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.280 the way our return game has been for the last 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.280 five or six years, I'd rather every single kick off 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.040 against US goes in the end zone for a touchback 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.600 because twenty five yard line average, that's awesome. Twenty five 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.240 yard line, no chance for a fumble. So if this 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.640 guy proves to be good t J. Logan, we'll probably 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.280 end up getting more touchbacks because that we want to 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.599 avoid him. I never thought about that before. Every in 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.800 my whole life, yard line it is we'll start mark 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.920 marking it down and see what happens. So I don't 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.000 think that there was a ton surprising, uh in the 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.959 cuts or the keeps, if you will, because I think 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.600 we discussed this and thought they were gonna keep six receivers, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.440 and they did the six. We thought, uh, we thought 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.600 they were gonna keep Tanner Hudson as a four tight end, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:05.880 not everybody they would. I think it's great, um, And 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.640 you know, we've had injuries at the tighten position in 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.240 the last few years, so it's nice. Even if he 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.800 isn't intricately involved in the offense to begin the season, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.760 maybe he's not even active on game day to begin 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.240 the season, he'll get a shot. When we were talking, 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:17.920 we'll need him at some point we were talking with 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.480 Bruce's I've never heard it put this way, but I 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.560 really liked how it was done. We we were talking 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.800 to Bruce and he goes, yeah, he goes, we hired 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:31.680 ninety guys to fire thirties. When he said, I was like, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.960 I never thought of it that way. But you're hiring 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.920 ninety guys to fire thirties. Well you But he inherited 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.200 a business that already had a certain number plays. Yes, yes, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.280 like he already had Lavante Davi, but he didn't have 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.800 to hire him, although I'm sure Lavonte would have done 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.760 fine in an interview if necessary, you would think. And 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.400 today is Tuesday at practice and he was practicing today 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.680 and so was Dave. These are good things. Coach. Now 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.840 we're will you'll hear this on Wednesday or later, but 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.360 we're talking on Tuesday. Coach said he hoped there would 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:00.920 be a couple more guy back tomorrow and that could 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.560 be Mike Edwards. Um, that could be DeVante Bond. By 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.280 the way, speaking of the roster, Devantey Bond made it. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.200 And I think he made it because well, he's very 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.960 good on special teams. But I think because they switched 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.200 him from inside outside linebacker and they're like, wow, this 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.120 really works. Now they can still. That gives you a 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.200 lot of flexibility in your numbers because if you feel 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.320 like you're one shorted inside linebacker, he can still play that. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.800 So having guys like that is really good for putting 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.440 a roster together. But um, he has actually been changed 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.160 on the roster who designated himself as an outside linebacker, 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.160 So that's a done deal. Yeah, I'm I'm getting excited. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:33.880 I mean, you know, it is Tuesday, and did walk 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.760 out and did see guys that you were wondering, Hey, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.000 are are they gonna go? Seems like the handling of 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:45.400 the players, uh, physically with injuries or just the whole preseason. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.200 I thought it was handled really well. May not be 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.640 best for the fans because you're not seeing everybody, but 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.360 they certainly were making sure that when it mattered, and 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.320 that will be this Sunday that they're gonna have almost everybody. Yeah, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:59.080 there's not gonna be much of an injury issue at all, 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.560 and that feels really good. It. Yeah, it's a great 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.000 place to be. And you also have to keep into 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:08.280 consideration that you were playing two games in five days, 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.920 and that's something that they had to think about even 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.240 during the preseason at training camp, because once you hit Sunday, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:22.000 you're traveling Wednesday, you're playing Thursday. That's tough, Yes, tough schedule. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.200 So the bottom it's it's it's the beginning. But then, hey, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.800 you know, everybody's got got something in their schedule. They don't. Yeah, 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.720 coaches generally like to say, hey, you've got sixteen games. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.360 Already knew who were gonna play. It doesn't really matter 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.080 what order they come in. But there are some challenges 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.680 on the schedule, as we well know, and we'll we'll 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:38.800 talk about it because you and I will be living 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.600 those challenges too. And so it's that old five days 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.760 working three days yeah, well, you know everybody, but you 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:51.480 remember when we uh when Raymond James steven seventh state 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:55.560 road trips when you that was hard. That was a blast. Yeah, 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.160 especially the oklahomat Yeah when Yeah, I was gonna say, 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.720 when played Kansas City and Norman, Oklahoma, which is my birthplace, Norman, Oklahoma. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.520 Really yep, I did not know this. My dad was 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.760 a grad student at OU at the time. Really wow, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.360 and he went to Northwestern and I was in St. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.120 Louis had by then and from like three years old. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:17.280 All right, it's something like a five year, five hour 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.440 driving close. No, I know, No, I did not know that. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.199 My Wildcats took it on the chin against Stanford. Dophense 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.080 did not look good. I did watch that game though, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.280 But the guy we're about to have on here, he's 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.200 he was very happy with his team's performance. To the 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.600 to the dismay of us F fans. Uh, that game 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.119 was over before it started. Yeah, I mean seriously, when 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.520 they had a lightning the lake and when they had 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.720 to lightning to lay first thing, I thought of, dang, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.440 good thing we're not there, because that is horrible. We 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.239 are wearing red. Jeff, I wanted to bring this up 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.639 on Sunday. I love it, you do. Yes, everybody's excited 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.159 about it. That's fine. I love it. Red pants, no 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.800 red jersey, Peter pants. We're wearing it. We're wearing it. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.800 I love it, Jeff forty four decades of when I 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.680 like it. I love it. I think we're going to 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.399 get some more of it. Who is that country? Tim 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:17.600 McGraw Sonday, Sorry my bad, And and they're gonna have 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.399 a special encore performance at halftime. Tim mcgrass song, you 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.639 got another one? You know I didn't? You know? Excuse me. 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:27.160 Don't take the girl. That's a timergrals you you want 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.760 to sure? My wife? My wife is so excited about this. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.600 Can I tell you something? You listen to? Don't take 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.720 the girl, You'll tear up. I think I've heard that one. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.880 It's a I love that song, but it's a hard 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.359 it's a hard one. It's a hard one. You know. 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.680 I did country for a number that. Yeah, poor guy. Yes, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.480 I'm obviously showing my musical taste. Yeah country. I have 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.680 been to a Tim McGraw concert, though I went with 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.520 my wife. Yeah, so I've been there. I've been with him. 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.000 That the State Fairgrounds, No, is that the hockey stadium. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.800 Oh some years ago. It wasn't anytime recently. So anyway, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:03.520 I know a lot of people are very very excited 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.840 about it. Doesn't matter that that's not my musical taste. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.639 It is a lot of people's musical But but the 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.320 thing is is that you say country and never he's 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.440 just playing Well, he's just a superstar and he's just 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.879 gonna play songs that you're just gonna like an all right, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:19.320 I got one for you a song. Ye, no, not 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.879 another song, but just out of curious you say superstar. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.639