WEBVTT - This Is It (2/22/2017)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm a.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for dake Edo State? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo whoom?

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<v Speaker 2>And Dan and Tye.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the solid Purple boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is ty hilden Brand. I am joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>buy my trusted co host over there in beautiful New

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<v Speaker 1>York City. A gentleman we know well as Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, Ty, I am in the audio mausoleum in

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<v Speaker 2>it is not well, that would I guess imply that

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<v Speaker 2>there are multiple bodies in here, which I really hope not.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is good, Tie, life is good at least if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a Mississippi State fan. Yeah, you are Mississippi

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<v Speaker 2>State fan. Life is glorious. What is a mausoleum?

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<v Speaker 1>By it? I mean I know what a mausoleum is, right,

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<v Speaker 1>What is an audio mausoleum?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not in the audio coffin anymore? Ty, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying out names for this. It almost is like

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<v Speaker 2>a room at an insane asylum, Okay, because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>walls are pad they are padded hESC audio purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine are two, so we've got something in common. Love it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am in here. There is a rug. It

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<v Speaker 2>is real warm. It feels like the walls are closing

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<v Speaker 2>in on me like the garbage compactor. And is it

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<v Speaker 2>Star Wars? The Empire strikes back one of them, the

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<v Speaker 2>first one. Yeah, yeah, And I'm feeling good. I'm my

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<v Speaker 2>brain's gonna get loopy. We have a game to play too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you came up with the game, and I'm actually excited.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to go on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Display, thinking on my feet because I don't know what's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a general sense for what you're gonna what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do here, but I don't know any of

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<v Speaker 1>the topics in advance.

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<v Speaker 2>Name of the game is this is it? And we

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<v Speaker 2>determine whether or not one of I believe I have

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<v Speaker 2>eight different college football teams and situations, and we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to figure out between us. We can disagree, we

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<v Speaker 2>can agree or disagree, agree and figure out whether or

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<v Speaker 2>not the current city situation, the current homeostasis is it.

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<v Speaker 1>If it is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Current the current thing is a thing that will continue

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<v Speaker 2>to trend, or if twenty sixteen was just an aberration,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, of course we have it Kenny Loggins themed.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to. So I'm a little worried. M a

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<v Speaker 1>little worried. I'm gonna be honest here please. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback on the fantasy thing scoring was that I

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<v Speaker 1>need to push back more on you. Really you took

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a bit abuse. Many people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you so passive? So I guess they want

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<v Speaker 1>me to strike back. I actually can. I've got that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're I've got that in the quiver. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>usually you were the Oklahoma state safety to my Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 2>Soli in the hot exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm sa. You got audio trucked Tye, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to be the one to break it to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a little worried that this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like the next Who's Now? Remember that Who's Now?

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<v Speaker 1>That of course they did in ESPN was kind of chintzy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have more trust in you than I than

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<v Speaker 1>I did in them, we know it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be that. Because Kenny Loggins is timeless. He is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>we go way back with Ken, and I believe you

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<v Speaker 1>performed the Loggins and Messina song way back when I

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<v Speaker 1>did the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before we get to that, though, Ty, we do have.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of news.

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<v Speaker 2>We do a little bit of news.

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<v Speaker 1>We do have a little bit of housekeeping, which I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to first.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Oh, sorry, because I was expecting a sound and

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<v Speaker 2>I was expecting to boot boot a dupe and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to So continue, hold on to the boots

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<v Speaker 2>and the dupes. Oh. I got a tweet that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like that. I said, continue. That's that's how dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>our listeners are. We have great listeners. They are the

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<v Speaker 2>best and they take exception with commands. Commands, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well, housekeeping, then the boops and dupes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we need to mention it. We do it once

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<v Speaker 2>I am selling beauty products and I need people to help.

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<v Speaker 1>Me sell them.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what people do?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, my cause is much different than that one,

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<v Speaker 2>much different your cause is. I did not mean to

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, get the boots and tubes ready, Dan, Yes, because.

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<v Speaker 2>We have backing news. Boo boo, boo boo.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this one actually broke. It's very rare that

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<v Speaker 1>this happens where we can actually do news, the breaking

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<v Speaker 1>news and sort of real time here. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>came across on the Twitter sphere and via the old

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<v Speaker 1>Miss YouTube channel. Weirdly enough that ole Miss is now

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<v Speaker 1>self imposing a one year postseason ban for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen college football season. Per Bruce Felban quote, Old Miss

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<v Speaker 1>has been charged with the dreaded lack of institutional control

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<v Speaker 1>by the NCAA. The school said it will fight the charge.

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<v Speaker 1>They also provided an update via a weird, emotionless twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minute YouTube video which I had a chance to click through,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is not good. If you're an Old Mis fan, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>you freeze Contrary to the allegations, I have strong record

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<v Speaker 2>of promoting compliance and monitoring my staff. Ole Miss will

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<v Speaker 2>also forfeit its annual postseason money, which is approximately seven

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<v Speaker 2>point eight million.

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<v Speaker 1>Dollars as per league rules by the bulban.

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<v Speaker 2>Not great. I imagine they are going to vigorously appeal

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<v Speaker 2>and hope for something. You know that the bulban being enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but lack of institutional control could have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>bearing on who freeze a specific future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels a little bit like the NCAA went

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<v Speaker 1>for the kill shot here, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice of allegations is just that it is not a

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<v Speaker 2>ruling of any kind, but I imagine ole Miss is going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to get out way in front of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and like other schools have who have received allegations similar

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<v Speaker 2>or in the same vicinity or tangential to what ole

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<v Speaker 2>Miss has received, I would imagine the strategy should continue

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<v Speaker 2>to be open up as much as you possibly can,

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<v Speaker 2>and do not lie, do not cover anything up at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, be as forthrights as humanly possible, and hope

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<v Speaker 2>for the mercy of the completely confusing and nonsensible and

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<v Speaker 2>c DOAA Enforcement Commission. So more to come on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>If you believe the Internet, it seems like there is

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<v Speaker 1>more to come, and I would suspect that in this

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<v Speaker 1>case the Internet is correct, so stay tuned. Secondly, an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting tidbit. Tommy Tubberville the former coach of like eight

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<v Speaker 1>teams now but he is running for governor of Alabama. Supposedly.

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<v Speaker 1>He formerly coached at Auburn, most recently at Cincinnati. He

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<v Speaker 1>may be trying his hand at politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Texas Tech. Yeah, do you know who he'd be replacing?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know who the current governor of Alabama is?

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<v Speaker 2>Current governor of Alabama? No, I'd have to google it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't know if I've mentioned this on

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<v Speaker 2>the show before, because it's such an extraordinary piece, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say it's GQ. I will confirm this wrote

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<v Speaker 2>a piece on Robert Bentley, governor of Alabet, is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Bentley loves sexual intercourse a lot, okay, so much

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<v Speaker 2>that he had an affair with his political advisor, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>which eventually led to his divorce, but not before his

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<v Speaker 2>wife was just sort of like, yeah, no, he's up

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just Robert, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And at one point he had like a separate pickup

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<v Speaker 2>truck or something for just going to the lake with

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<v Speaker 2>his second lady and then drove his pickup truck like

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<v Speaker 2>five hours to like his beach house and forgot his

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<v Speaker 2>wallet and then asked that state troopers bring him his

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<v Speaker 2>wallet and they took a helicopter to wow his wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so aware of this, But Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Tupperville, who I would not say is in great

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<v Speaker 2>standing in terms of his like public Q rating at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. He was last seen yelling at a fan

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<v Speaker 2>who accused him of stealing money from Cincinnati after they

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<v Speaker 2>lost to BYU.

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<v Speaker 1>The bar is low.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you think about coaches or former coaches in

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<v Speaker 2>a state who could presumably win a governorship based on

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of focusiness, popularity, charm, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>appearance of being able to get things done politically because

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<v Speaker 2>of success on the football field. Tommy Tupperville's way down.

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<v Speaker 1>On my head. Yeah, I was gonna say Tuberville I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think really qualifies there, but way way down.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, this was all just an excuse talk about

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Bentley, who is a what's the headline of the

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<v Speaker 2>GQ piece, I don't know, like America's horniest governor. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see it. I don't know the affair of Robert Bentley,

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama's horndog governor. Okay, the love song of Robert Bentley.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, Alabamas horndog governor. Look it up. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>It is incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening. We're not even passing judgment. Is just

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible story.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a wonderful, wonderful tale. So yeah, So from

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<v Speaker 2>Ole miss and Hu Frees to Robert Bentley and Tommy

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<v Speaker 2>Tuberville and Alabama. Matt Lubick, who was Organ's offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>last year, got fired with Mark Helfrich in the entirety

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<v Speaker 2>of the Oregon staff immediately or almost immediately, took a

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<v Speaker 2>job with Ole Miss as a receivers coach, quickly left

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<v Speaker 2>to be a co offensive coordinator for Baylor and Matt Ruhle,

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<v Speaker 2>and today it was announced that he would be accepting

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<v Speaker 2>the wide receivers coach and co offensive coordinator job with

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Washington. He's like Carmen san Diego at

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<v Speaker 2>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Carmen san Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>I called him an offensive handyman, just you know, bopping

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<v Speaker 2>from household to household.

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<v Speaker 1>So is he doing Is he doing work with Jim Cheney,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would make sense. Jim Cheney is living. Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Chaney'll give you a full year. He's like the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>O pair. Yes, okay, he is the office.

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<v Speaker 2>He will he will hang out and make sure everybody

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<v Speaker 2>gets off to school. But Matt Lubick, son of Sunny Lubick,

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<v Speaker 2>a former coach everywhere, especially Colorado State, heading to Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>to play against and coach against the Orgon Ducks is law.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there for four years and I is super

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<v Speaker 2>well regarded. I should add it's just be skipping all

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<v Speaker 2>over the place as a wide receivers. Coach was the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to use those frequent flyer miles before they expire.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to use them.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. This is true, getting those star ward points.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, baby, Okay, getting everything? So there we are,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me when to play me. I've got the music

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. Here, okay, play the music. The

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<v Speaker 2>name of the game, tie, wo is this is it?

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<v Speaker 2>And basically I'm going to give you a college football

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<v Speaker 2>situation and you're gonna tell me if this is it,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what it is, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 2>reality we live in. Or if twenty sixteen was just

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<v Speaker 2>an aberration. Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>That music?

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<v Speaker 2>That music.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hot, here, Dan, I know, not just because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>drinking like my third cup of coffee the day, could

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe was Kenny Loggins featuring Michael McDonald. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are stories Ty they went out. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of white hair right there, man, It's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, I'm gonna give you eight items, one after

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<v Speaker 2>the other. We are going to figure out if this

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<v Speaker 2>is it, this is it, this is just the reality

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<v Speaker 2>of college football.

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<v Speaker 1>You're ready for the first one?

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready here, lay down that track? All right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Clemson now after two straight National Championship Game appearances,

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<v Speaker 2>one win, a perennial ten and a half plus win

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<v Speaker 2>national Championship game threat is not the reality in which

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<v Speaker 2>we live?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this it? I am gonna say no? Oh interesting?

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<v Speaker 1>Why I am gonna say no? I am very impressed

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<v Speaker 1>by what Dabo Sweeney has done on the recruiting trail.

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<v Speaker 1>Impressed by the program that he's built. It's really tough

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a perennial ten and a half eleven

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<v Speaker 1>win program, very difficult to do. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>too far away from that. But what I need to

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<v Speaker 1>see is what they're able to do now post Deshaun Watson. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Watson was really good. They're great all across the field.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got a ton of talent, but Deshaun Watson is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they won that National Championship game. Above all,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what they can do in the

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<v Speaker 1>post Watson era before I'm willing to commit to that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not against it. I'm just I want more data.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's reasonable, so incoming right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe high blue hip like Deshaun Watson was as

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<v Speaker 2>a recruit and clearly was as a quarterback himself. Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson coming in as the true freshman and the second

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<v Speaker 2>best pro style quarterback in the country, a five star

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback coming in. You remember Deshaun Watson started playing as

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<v Speaker 2>a true freshman, and they've got a what sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a Georgia quarterback coming in. He is from Georgia and

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<v Speaker 2>he does have the you know, the shutdown full cast

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<v Speaker 2>to first name name, Chase Bryce, Chase Bryce. So he

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<v Speaker 2>is also coming in as a blue chipper, a four

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<v Speaker 2>star quarterback. So I tell you this because it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like if you are going to perennially challenge for a

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<v Speaker 2>national championship game, you're gonna need consistent quarterback play and great,

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<v Speaker 2>great year over year defense, even with a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>NFL attrition, which Clemson has proven already. That's part of

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<v Speaker 2>the equation that they can lose a bunch of defensive players,

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<v Speaker 2>key guys to the NFL or to graduation, whatever end

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<v Speaker 2>of eligibility, replenish, reload, and succeed all the same and

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a great defensive coordinator Brent Venables. But the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback question I think is real. But I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>say because of the continuity on both sides of the

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<v Speaker 2>ball and the coaching staff, Dabbo's around recruiting, I think

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<v Speaker 2>very well. I wouldn't say at the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>top Florida State still head to them in the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to say, this is it? Wow? So

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<v Speaker 2>what do we play the sound we play it? Play

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<v Speaker 2>that this is at sound time. Okay, you're saying yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got that Kenny Loggins approval. That's all I need.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm saying yes. So we disagree early. We do disagree. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Clemson's schedule for the current or I guess coming season.

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn at home is their game. What second week of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. They go to Louisville, which will be a

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<v Speaker 1>tough place to play. They go to Virginia Tech, which,

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<v Speaker 1>I before Gerard Evans declared his eligibility for the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>looked like it'd be a tougher game. Still could be

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<v Speaker 1>pretty tough, but a tough place to play, right Wlayane Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely got a game here on the road at NC State,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a game that on rare occasions give them

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<v Speaker 1>some issue. Did this pass this past year? Yeah, Florida

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<v Speaker 1>State they get at home, which is a tough, tough

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<v Speaker 1>spot no matter where that game is, go to South

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina to close out the year. South Carolina played well

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch last year, So I don't know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good chance to get to ten this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just I want to see more data about

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<v Speaker 1>how they're gonna look post Deshaan Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that Auburn Louisville back to back early on, it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be tough. Could see us split there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having Lamar Jackson at the Papa.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot look anything about it at the Papa.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, the back half of their schedule, getting Florida

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<v Speaker 2>State at home would have been nice to have that

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<v Speaker 2>after a bye week. But yes, I'm saying this is

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<v Speaker 2>a Clemson getting to back to back national championship games

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<v Speaker 2>is such a rare feat outside of basically Alabama that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with that. Being in it ty, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna stay with this theme.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me some music.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very there. I suit it's sets a mood. It

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<v Speaker 2>does is the ACC Atlantic is the best division in

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<v Speaker 2>college football.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this?

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<v Speaker 2>It is this just the reality in which we live.

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<v Speaker 2>ACC Atlantic as the a savision. Yes, in football, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so other contested divisions, I mean, I SEC West, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think so, Okay, hear me out. The SEC West

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<v Speaker 2>certainly has the big name Cachet and LSU just clobbering

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville in their bowl game certainly is a step back

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<v Speaker 2>for the ACC Atlantic. But here's what I would add.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm sure you're about to make a case for

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten East. Bottom of the Big Ten East,

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan State and Rutgers combined for five wins, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the clear lowest of any two teams at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of a Power five division. So I think that it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so top heavy, and I don't think there's enough

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<v Speaker 2>depth there. Indiana had a disappointing year, Maryland, Michigan State, Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. It's not a great foursome. What's interesting actually

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<v Speaker 1>about the the ACC Atlantic is that the team that

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<v Speaker 1>finished last in the ACC Atlantic was Boston College and

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<v Speaker 1>they actually went seven and six.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, they only had one one team with a losing

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<v Speaker 2>record overall, And I know teams will stack their schedule

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the ACC has four non conference schedules non

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<v Speaker 2>conference games, so that exkews things a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>These arguments are always really hard for me because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a tendency to look at the top and not

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<v Speaker 1>so much examine the depth.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fourth place team was a chip shot field

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<v Speaker 2>goal away from beating the national champion.

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<v Speaker 1>Facts only, ty facts only.

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse went four and eight wake Forest big bounce back year,

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<v Speaker 2>led by new Notre Dame defensive coordinator. I already forget

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<v Speaker 2>his name, Mike something, Mike Yelko. Yeah, there it is,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, that's why you're here in Boston. College won

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<v Speaker 2>seven games. Now, I'm not going to it wasn't always

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<v Speaker 2>presser too much by it, right, They went on to

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<v Speaker 2>four against ranked teams. You know, the bottom of that

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<v Speaker 2>division went o seven against ranked teams. I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't make a compelling case. I can't make it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no division in the Big twelve, the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>West certainly not.

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<v Speaker 1>The only two arguments here that you could counter with

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<v Speaker 1>would be the Big ten East of the SEC West.

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<v Speaker 1>The SEC West has historically been way better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't go as far as saying historically,

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<v Speaker 2>because we've watched a lot of football in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Mississippi historically has not been great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, I'm still going SEC West. At least

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<v Speaker 1>over the last ten years, the SEC West has been

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<v Speaker 1>far and away better than the Sea Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 2>The Big Ten East.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't make that same argument for the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 1>East because I don't think it was until we saw

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of Penn State that everyone started talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Ten East is like this goliath. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do think they're going to have some staying power. We

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<v Speaker 1>know Michigan has recruited well, They've got Jim Horriball, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be solid. We know Ohio State with Urban

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer has been playoff quality year in and year out,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've absolutely reloaded pretty much every single year. So

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<v Speaker 1>certainly they're always going to be in the conversation. Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State's done real well for themselves in the recruiting trail.

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<v Speaker 1>They obviously had a renaissance last year. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>away anytime soon. I think you look around the Big

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<v Speaker 1>ten East, there are some other reasons to be optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly not Rutgers, but Maryland has done pretty well in

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<v Speaker 1>the recruit tree, didn't have a great season, actually lost

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<v Speaker 1>to Boston College and in the bowl game. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's reason for optimism. Michigan State had a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an aberration, is Oh, so it's not it for

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State. It's definitely not it for Michigan State, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think more of an aberrational on that side.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they will come back. They just lost a

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<v Speaker 1>lot last year, so I would say in a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 1>ACC Atlantic better in twenty sixteen. But if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make an argument for them moving forward as the

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<v Speaker 1>best conference in college football, I am not comfortable with

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<v Speaker 1>that assertion. So I'm going to say that it is

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<v Speaker 1>it is not it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm going to agree with you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>who it is though, So I right, I honestly. So

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC West, You've got the top of the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>West losing to the top of the Atlantic in Clemson.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Michigan near the top of the Big Tennies

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<v Speaker 2>losing to the ACC Atlantic, and Florida State in their

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<v Speaker 2>bowl game, Louisville losing to LSU in their bowl game.

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<v Speaker 2>But the rest, I think it's a nice story, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can start to talk me into and then I

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<v Speaker 2>will quickly cut you off the coastal as being sort

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<v Speaker 2>of deep and interesting. But they lose so much in

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 2>the way of quarterbacks that it's really really hard to know.

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<v Speaker 2>PAC twelve North would have had an argument before last

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<v Speaker 2>year because of emerging Washington, Oregon Stanford col producing a

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<v Speaker 2>big quarterback in Jared Goff the year before. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just and obviously Luke Fox and Washington State ac quitting

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>themselves very nicely. But at this point you have Ole

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<v Speaker 2>miss going Downssissippi State trending slightly in the upward direction, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's leave it at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's leave it at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Please. It's much easier to make the argument for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen ACC Atlantic than it is twenty seventeen ACC Atlantic,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think for that reason, I am inclined to

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is not it, at least not yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm reversing, just because I can't find

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<v Speaker 2>anyone to be conclusively better ACC Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. You just want to hear that sound, don't you?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I do. All right, where we going next?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, next, We're gonna go group of five.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get emails, we get requests like Why don't

0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys talk about group of five?

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<v Speaker 2>Do some group of five fantasy stuff? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if we're gonna go that far, but held on, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the American Athletic Conference the best group of five

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<v Speaker 2>conference even without Matt rule. Well, Tom Herman and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Should add Tommy Tubbervell or Bob Diaco in his beautiful hair. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna set some fires with this one, aren't we.

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>So we have the AAC. So this is talent. This

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is not an argument we can win. Regardless of how

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>we present our arguments here, we will inevitably get emails

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 1>about this one. People already be pissed off here no

0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>matter what we no matter what we say. So okay,

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you go first.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make the case here Temple good amount of

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 2>and some returning talent in uh and I like Jeff Collins.

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I like that higher. The defense shouldn't take too far,

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.640
<v Speaker 2>if not any of a step back South Florida. I

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 2>imagine the defense, which was the issue last year, it

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>will get significantly better with Charlie Strong and bringing back

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.360
<v Speaker 2>a ton everywhere, including Quintin Flowers. You know, one of

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 2>the most dynamic playmakers in the country Cincinnati, who knows

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 2>UCF you have to assume improvement. Scott Frost turned them

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.439
<v Speaker 2>around pretty quickly at least to get them back to respectability.

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Yukon and Reht lastly running the offense there. Now you know,

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess obviously they're going back to a dream job

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 2>or at a head coach ken Yu Modalolo is as

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 2>consistent as it gets at Navy Tulsa and Philip Montgomery

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I like a lot Houston. I will imagine there will

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>be continuity in the short term because of the success recruiting,

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 2>and I think SMU and Chad Morris are only on

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>a positive trajectory at the moment. So I'm going to say,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and I think their only real competition is the Mountain West,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>who I also like. I'm going to say, yes, this

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is it. The AAC remains the top group of five conference.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to wait to play that sound okay until

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<v Speaker 2>you're response because because I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, I agree with you, Dan, Okay, Why I

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I'm looking over the roster of teams

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in both all right, Now, again, everything's relative. I think

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years there are more teams

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>in the AAC that I think could knock off a

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Power five than if I'm looking at the Mountain West. Okay,

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>all right, I feel like South Florida with Charlie Strong

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>can probably do some damage, you know. I feel like

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Temple could do some damage. East Carolina until recently was

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>a team that could knock you off. Navy has actually

0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely been pretty good. Houston was good. You mentioned Tulsa.

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Memphis has had some good seasons. All right. They did

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>extremely well this season despite losing justin fu wenteoe.

0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>The depth of teams in the AAC is a little

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 1>bit more ferocious than in the Mountain West, where if

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you look at it, you have You've always got Boise

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>State right, ten wins again this year, Wyoming had a

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>good season. I don't know if I'm terribly concerned about

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Wyoming knocking me up.

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 2>They bring back Josh Allen right or back, who people

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 2>thought had NFL ability.

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>New Mexico had a problem throwing the football. They could

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>do was run decent.

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Nine win New Mexico though, Tye.

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's fine. I'll take a ten and three. Air

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Force as air Force was dangerous. Colorado State Okay, fine,

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Utah State.

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<v Speaker 2>Eh.

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>This past season, San Diego State had a down year,

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>sure down year. San Diego State eleven wins. Hawaii wasn't impressed.

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>In Jose State was not impressed. Nevada UNLV Fresno State

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>was not impressed. So I just feel like the depth

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is there with the AAC. I think it will continue

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>to be there. And that is why I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it. I think you're not giving them Mountain

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 2>West enough credit. I think it's a little bit closer.

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>San Diego State went eleve th three and Donnelle Pump

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 2>forgets the attention and you know, is moving on as

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>like an all time great. Their defense was so damn good.

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>This was as and the improvement. Where was Hawaii two

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>three years ago? There were nothing? Chow drove them into

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>the ocean and they went seven and seven. First year

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.120
<v Speaker 2>coach Nick Rolovitch, you wouldn't let players sit down, Okay,

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Bob Davey New Mexico nine win, New Mexico.

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>Where were they? I love the Mountain West. I love

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the mount West football shout out to Jeremy Moss. Okay,

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, lay down that track for me.

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>It's very sexy. I know it really is because this

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>item is the Big Twelve continuing to go through.

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>The state of Oklahoma to win it. Wow, this is

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the Big Well really coming back to how do we

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>all feel about Texas, isn't it? Well?

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about Texas? How do you feel

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>about TCU? How do you feel about improving Kansas? How

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 2>do you feel about the wizardry of get well ozoned?

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Bill Snyder? Yeah, okay, this is coming back for Kansas.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>They return a lot Kansas state, all right, So here

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>are your options here? You didn't say Oklahoma sooners, he said,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>the state of Oklahoma, the state of because there has

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>recently been a ton riding on that Bedlam game.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's go through m hm. How many

0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>states are involved here in the Big twelve. We've got

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.479
<v Speaker 1>the great state of Oklahoma, of course, right. We've got

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the great state of West Virginia, the Mountaineer state borders

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>my state of Pennsylvania. We've got Kansas, great state of Kansas,

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the Sunflower State, I believe, Okay, capital Topeka between k

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>state and Kansas. We've also got Iowa, yep.

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>In Iowa State.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>And then we've got Texas with TCU Texas, Texas Tech,

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and Baylor. HM, so I think we can start picking

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>teams off right away. It's not gonna be Baylor, it's

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be Texas Tech. So that leaves two teams

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in the great state of Texas. I don't think it's

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>going to run through West Virginia. I don't think it's

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>going to run through Kansas, and I certainly don't think

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>it's going to run through Iowa, which means that it

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>comes down to either Oklahoma or Texas, as it often

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>does in the Big Twelve. I feel at this point

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that there is much more continuity on the Oklahoma Oklahoma

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>state side than I do on the TCU slash Texas

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>side of things. So gun to my head, at this point,

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>the safer bet is clearly Oklahoma.

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not as sure a bet.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>On the Oklahoma side as I'd like it to be

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to feel truly comfortable about it.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 2>It runs through the state of Oklahoma, that is. I'm

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>not just saying twenty seventeen. I'm just saying, this is

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the reality of the Big twelve. Oh reality, Wow, the reality.

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>This is it. This is where we are in life.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I gotta believe Tom Herman is going to build up Texas.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like we've said that the last like

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 1>eight years about Texas. Oh there's still right. That's been

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the tagline for me. Texas is still Texas. Oh, don't worry,

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll be back. They haven't been back. Dan, it should

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>be easier.

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I realize it should be something to note though Bedlam

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>November fourth this coming year, it is not the final

0:30:10.560 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>week of the season. I think the state will be hosting.

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a championship game I believe so technically

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it will be going through the state of Texas. But

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>in terms of the top of the conference. I like

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia a little bit. I like West Virginia. West

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Virginia has I think country roads taking you home.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>I listen big Bill Greer, okay stepping in in Morgantown

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 2>at some point, who even knows. But they finished the

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 2>season in Norman. They've got Texas in West Virginia. I mean,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Texas is going to be in Morgantown. They're on the

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>road in Manhattan, which is where good teams go to die.

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>We know that this is fact, but they have Oklahoma

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 2>State in Morgantown. It's a good year to go to

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>McLean and play Baylor. They have Texas Tech in Morgantown

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 2>with a new quarterback. They do go to AM and

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>g Carter. I think West Virginia is going to be

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a fun team defense take another step

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>forward last year. There's continuity in Morgantown, which is very

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 2>strange to say.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But do you think it's going to run through West

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Virginia forever more?

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that's the question. I think now the

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 2>question is Oklahoma. It's not West the state of so

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>the state is Oklahoma.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>I say, yes, this is the reality. This is it.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I say it's it too.

0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is me bucking the trend here, by the way,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I like it. The trend for me has always been

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to go pro Texas. So for me to say this

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>represents a turning over, a new, big change. I appreciate it, all.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>doing this again, aren't we.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to ask you to pronounce anything. I'm

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:14.359
<v Speaker 2>just going to ask you if you've heard of and

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.640
<v Speaker 2>or eaten a food. I'm going to say the food

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>into this microphone in front of me, and then I

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 2>want you to play the drum roll sound.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if you have to load that

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 1>up and drum roll, drum roll, drum roll.

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Where is it?

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Ty?

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever eaten and or heard of soup dumplings?

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.879
<v Speaker 2>I have. You've had a soup pumpling or you've heard

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 2>of a soup dumping both? Where did you have soup dumplings?

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm in PA Dutch country. Dumplings are a thing. M

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be very specific. Soup dumplings are Asian generally,

0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe Chinese. I'm not talking about dumplings in soup. TI.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Get ready for your mind to be blown. I am

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about soup inside of dumplings that you can either

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>slurp out with a straw or you put the whole

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 2>dumpling into your mouth. It's more it's sort of like

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a noodle pouch that has broth inside of it.

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, I didn't know about that part. Ah, I've

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.879
<v Speaker 1>had dumplings before. I appreciated the confidence. Obviously, I've heard

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of dumplings. Yeah, of course, I did not assume the

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>us like. No, No, they are extraordinary. It remind me,

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>are they like those gushers? Remember I used to buy

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the gushers.

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Tight in a lot of what they're like Chinese savory gushers. Okay, right,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 2>they're bigger and it's almost like maybe the size of

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>a little bigger than a golf ball. I would say, okay,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>that's a bigger gusher. Then yeah, But they get like

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 2>it's in the the broth is very hot because it's

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>it's trapped in there pretty well. It's sealed in by

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>the noodle dumpling noodle. And sometimes you'll see like, you know,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a pork broth, a chicken broth, you know, crab broth.

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Soup dumplings.

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's a weird sensation. They're wonderful. So the answer

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>is no, it is it is. That's okay.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Next time you're in New York, we're against some soupy dumps.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Where are we going next?

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Next item? Tie lay down that track.

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Ty is the reality in which we live, a reality

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>in which Michigan is the perennial bridesmaid. Is Michigan the

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>perennial bridesmaid? Is Michigan going to continue to come up

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>just short in their own division, conference, and national stage

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and not compete for huge bowl wins? And yes, the

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Orange Bowl is a thing. I'm saying Bigger than that,

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying winning the conference getting to the playoff is

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Michigan as they are currently constituted, and as they project forward,

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a team that is very good but not cracking great.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Jim Harbaugh has a winning record

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 2>against rank teams. I might have to look that up.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not great. Perennially is a long time.

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I'm not comfortable saying perennially because I do believe

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that before long, Jim Harbaugh is going to have them,

0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 1>have them perin.

0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm saying the reality is right now, they're

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 2>a bridesmaid of sorts.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>The reality in the current moment, though, is yes, and

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of questions about where that team goes.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>They certainly lose a lot of talent. There are questions,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I think more immediately at quarterback wide open battle, I

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>would say.

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where does the offense go?

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>So for that reason, I'm inclined to say in the

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 1>short term anyway, the bridesmaid thing probably holds. But perennially,

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>assuming Jim Harbaughs sticks around for longer than like four years,

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I would expect that they would be competing at a

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>very high level. So I'm not comfortable calling them a

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>bridesmaid for any period of time beyond twenty seventeen.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I only say bride'smaid in terms of them being very

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>very good, but not great. And this year was a

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 2>relatively fortunate schedule early on and then tests a little

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>bit later and faltered. They have a bit of a

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>rebuilding project. Yeah, with an open quarterback battle, the offensive

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 2>line needs to be rebuilt. They lose a ton of

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>big contributors on defense, particularly in the back end Pepper's

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and Jordan Lewis Jake, but excuse me on offense and

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple big receivers gone. I'm going to say with

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>how well Ohio State is recruiting and the promise of

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State scoring multiple points in a bowl game, moving forward.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to say right now, it is hard for

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>me to with confidence and authority say that the reality

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 2>of Michigan as a bridesmaid will change. So I'm going

0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 2>to say once again, this is it. You just want

0:38:38.280 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to hear the sound. Maybe maybe not.

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I think in the short term the bride'smaid thing holds.

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But beyond twenty seventeen, yeah, a lot can go wrong.

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 1>A lot can go wrong. At some point, Ohio State

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>is going to have to change out their quarterback. Now

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not to say JT. Barrett did them a whole

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of favors in twenty sixteen, but at some point

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>they're going to have some turnover. You just you never know.

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Penn State, I still feel like seeing things can go

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>south for Trace McSorley, depending on how the composition of

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that offense changes beyond twenty seventeen. So I don't know

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>where Joe Moo is going to be in a couple

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of years. Joemo Saquon has probably gone after a year.

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>They have rebuilt the offensive line, but I don't know.

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>There are still too many moving parts in the Big

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Ten East for me to feel like I want to,

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, call Michigan a perennial bridesmaid.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 2>So no, it is nice. And we should note that

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>neither one of us mentioned Michigan state, which is fantasy

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 2>things points for me twenty seventeen. We've already established that

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I've won that. But this is true, and take it

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:51.360
<v Speaker 2>from me real life experience. I am marrying a perennial

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:55.760
<v Speaker 2>Michigan bridesmaid. So she's been a bridesmaid like twelve times,

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and she found her night in shining plaid. I wear

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of plaid, so this could be the year.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Then twenty seven could be the year. Absolutely, So who

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>am I to say that would favor my side of

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 2>the argument. Then this is true? Yeah, okay, now okay,

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>next lay down that track. Washington Washington Huskies are a

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 2>perennial Pac twelve contender and every three to four year

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>playoff team. Ooh, is this a reality in which we live?

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Every three to four years a playoff team? So basically

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>like Oregon was in the Pac twelve North, competing for

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>the conference a year and a year out dominating to

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a certain extent, and I believe Oregon made two national

0:40:41.080 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>championship appearances, would have made a playoff appearance in twenty

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>ten had it existed then, but in that sort of

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>range of maybe flopping with USC or Stanford kind of thing.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, So here, I think is a cruel reality

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of college football. It is very difficult to be Alabama

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:06.080
<v Speaker 1>or Ohio State. Yeah, Alabama and Ohio State. If you

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.879
<v Speaker 1>look at what they've done recently, those are the two

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>best teams in college football, right two best programs in

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>college football. Let's say, two healthiest programs right now in terms. Man,

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you leave Clemson two straight National

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Championship Game appearances.

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Clemson's in the discussion for sure.

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Man, I just okay, all right, I would put them

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.320
<v Speaker 1>third personally, not because they didn't get to that game,

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>but because I feel like urban Meyer, Nick Saban, they

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>will outlast everybody. Okay, so they're like, maybe that's a

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>bad argument, but apocalyptic twinkies, that's right, thank you. They're

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna survive.

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, my ealyptic twinkies. Okay.

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't feel like Washington is quite in that

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>discussion yet.

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>They could get there. They could get there.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Chris Peterson is a very very talented head football coach.

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a brilliant mind. He's won everywhere he's been. I

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 1>am not ready to commit to them being on that

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>normal rotation. They will definitely be more competitive than we've

0:42:04.360 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>seen at any point in maybe the last twenty years

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Washington football, but every three to four years competing for

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.919
<v Speaker 1>a playoff spot, that to me is a bridge too far.

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to see no. I'm to see no.

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I am going to say in terms of development and

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>coaching and identification of talent, I think the parameters are

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.080
<v Speaker 2>there to do so. I think the first part is true.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the second part is true. The playoff

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:34.919
<v Speaker 2>thing is where I have some trouble. I think they're

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be a perennial Pac twelve contender. I think

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 2>they win ten games more often than not, as long

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>as Chris Peterson is in Seattle. My problem with Washington

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 2>is I question the talent and depth they'll be able

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:52.400
<v Speaker 2>to build to be at or near the top nationally

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>for three to four years. Because as good as you

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>know talent is on the West Coast, I still think

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.359
<v Speaker 2>they're competing against a Stanford staff that you know, may

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 2>have put together the most pound four pound talented class

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.240
<v Speaker 2>in the country. The only thing I like twelve recruits

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>or something like that, but just a ridiculous class that's

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 2>going to be tough for them. I don't think Oregon

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 2>is a four to eight team moving forward, and that

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>is just going to be a difficulty. They've still lost

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:21.439
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, thirteen or fourteen to Oregon, and there's

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 2>a lot of talent in Eugene. Washington State is a

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>tricky team. And then you have a USC team that

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, at least for the next year, has a

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Heisman caliber quarterback and they're recruiting on a crazy level.

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.399
<v Speaker 2>I think the Pac twelve that there's enough parody there

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that it's hard to confidently say the second part of

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 2>that is true.

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to say this is not it. Is

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>there another conference in college football that presents as varied

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a threat from week to week as the Pac twelve.

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>That's part of my issue with right really christening anyone

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in the PAC twelve in this you know, perennial contender category. Sure,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got a team like Wazoo, which is going to

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>spread you out and go air raid, and you've got

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a team like Stanford, which is just going to try

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and beat your brains in. You've got a team like

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Oregon which at least in recent tradition, has been very spread,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 1>almost a little run pass option oriented. You've got USC,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.600
<v Speaker 1>which is very pro style. You've got Utah, which just

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>beats your brains in with defense. USC's movement has moved

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>away from sort of pro style recently with Sam Darnold.

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you get the point.

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Just a very threat from week to week that's really

0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>tough to prepare for. And so even if you've got

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the most talent in the world, there's always that threat

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>that if you got someone on the road, after a

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 1>team like a Stanford, after a team like a Utah,

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>even a USC or an Oregon, some team can jump

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>up and snipe you. So it's tough for me to

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>commit to that for pretty much anybody in college football,

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but certainly in a conference like the Pac twelve, where

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's very easy to drop a game when you

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 1>least expect it.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would also say in the Pac twelve, I

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>think more than any other conference. Maybe I'm wrong about this,

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>but this is my general feeling. Every team seems too

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 2>you have, maybe with the exception of Oregon State had

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a very good recent quarterback, So it feels like you're

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 2>always going to get some sort of combination of two

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 2>or three straight games with very good quarterback play year

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and a year out that I don't see in other

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>conferences necessarily. But maybe it's just a West Coast bias thing.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm totally open to that, but that's my feeling.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>There are no games that you can sleep on in

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the PAC twelve, sure, so I think we're in agreement

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>here in No. The only other point that I would add, Dan,

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:33.839
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for the best night's sleep that you've

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>had in a while, always, why don't you look at Casper? Oh, great, call,

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not a ghost. It's a mattress, Dan. It's an

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:46.800
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0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 1>They create an award winning sleep surface, just the right sink,

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:55.359
<v Speaker 1>just the right bounce for your money. Time magazine named

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it one of the best inventions of twenty fifteen, which

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't all that long ago, Dan. Plus, now you can

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 1>try Casper for one hundred one zero zero night's risk

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<v Speaker 1>free in your own home.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you don't love it, they will come.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll pick it up, they'll refund you everything because they understand,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the importance of really sleeping on a mattress

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<v Speaker 1>before you commit to it, especially considering you're gonna spend

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<v Speaker 1>one third of your life on it. Now. I have

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<v Speaker 1>not done the math. Casper has been with us for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. I'm going to assume that they are correct

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<v Speaker 1>in saying one third of your life if you assume

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours sleep per night, which is wishful thinking for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of other normal humans can actually achieve

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours a night twenty four hours in a day.

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<v Speaker 2>You do the math, that's about That's about right.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that sounds. How's your sleep been recently? Tie?

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<v Speaker 2>Awful?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Ty? I never sleep?

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm like mom age, it's the best drug there I need,

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<v Speaker 1>like a horse tranquilizer or put me to sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't look at your phone?

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean I do, but only once I know

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm awake. Okay, you've tried every position.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Temperatures doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, a solid wife have temperature preferences that

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<v Speaker 2>are screwing up yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>The solid wife could sleep through a nuclear apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, me, it just it's it's not even worth trying.

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<v Speaker 2>What about like white noise? Have you tried the white

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>noise thing? I know, we've talked about pizziz. The problem

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>is not falling asleep. I can fall asleep. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>is once I'm up, I'm staying up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my issue. Maybe Casper can solve it. I've not

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<v Speaker 1>tried Casper yet. We got to get on that Casper

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<v Speaker 1>train for you. Then, I think it might be a

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<v Speaker 1>mattress thing. There might be something to you sinking in perfectly,

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<v Speaker 1>think really finding your zone, your ram zone. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>thought about this before, but maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you sleep on your back? Do you sleep on

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<v Speaker 2>your stomach?

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<v Speaker 1>Usually on my right shoulder. I'm a side sleeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, I'm gonna picture my I have weird dreams

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<v Speaker 2>when I sleep on my right shoulder. I'm a left

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder guy. Yeah, mhmm. You ever noticed that when you

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<v Speaker 2>face a different direction, your dreams are stranger?

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<v Speaker 1>They left side sleepers are the only people in their

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<v Speaker 2>The SEC East will just remain blah and nothing and

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<v Speaker 2>not interesting and not really improve top to bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, in this soundclip the way here at got,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, play if you play it clean, I

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>won't talk over it. You can hear it.

0:48:57.719 --> 0:48:59.200
<v Speaker 2>There is there, it is there, it is there?

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Was you tell no lies?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? What was the question again? I'm sorry, I got,

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<v Speaker 2>I got. The SEC East remains just totally underwhelming.

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't even even think about that. Yeah, Oh it's wonderful.

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Should I go, Max Kellerman? Next topic here? Next topic?

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's give this. It's due the teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC East. For those of you playing along

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:29.279
<v Speaker 1>at home, We've got Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vandy.

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>And Missou. I am Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Finished very strongly on the recruiting trail. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of doubt about how Florida was going to do

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<v Speaker 1>in recruiting, and there's a fair amount of internet commentary

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>about how they have underwhelmed on that front. Now, they

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>did close in a very strong fashion, so we'll give

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>them benefit of the doubt. But so far anyway, it

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>seems as if they've had some trouble building up an offense.

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.880
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna wait to reserve judgment on Florida. Defensively,

0:49:59.880 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the been very stout, but offensively they've underwhelmed, so I'm

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not feeling in on the On the Florida front,

0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee loses a fair amount, and I think it's not

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 1>without reason that people have doubted whether or not Butch

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Jones can win the big one, whether or not he

0:50:13.280 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 1>can take this program to the next level. Georgia, you

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.279
<v Speaker 1>might remember, just fired their coach two years ago. I

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:22.520
<v Speaker 1>happen to like Kirby Smart, happened to like what he's

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:24.720
<v Speaker 1>done on the recruiting trail, and I really like Jacob Eason.

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 1>But if the only team that I really feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about in the SEC East is Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not getting I'm not getting worked up, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because I tend to look at quarterback and South Carolina

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 2>has a promising quarterback situation, so there's upward trajectory. There

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:43.200
<v Speaker 2>some upward trajectory from Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, Florida. I just

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm not feeling too much, even if there's decent enough

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>quarterback play about these teams as a whole. Georgia improving.

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 2>But we'll see what Jacob E's in, big arm, big talent.

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 2>They've got Jake from State Farm coming in. Yeah, I'm

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>going to say, this is it, This is just this

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:02.719
<v Speaker 2>is what we got. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>We agree and you just love that sound, but I do.

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I said it was not it last time. Yeah, okay,

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>here is the bug in the ointment though, Hey me,

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you said underwhelmed. Underwhelm's a relative term. Life is nothing

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>if not expectation based.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You go into a movie, you don't know what it's about,

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you don't have any expectations for it. More often than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you come out feeling like, yeah, I just saw a

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<v Speaker 1>good movie. Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is because the bar has been so low

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:32.959
<v Speaker 2>for the.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Sec East, Now, what is your threshold for being underwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 2>I want three good teams, Okay, given the talent in

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the area in the Southeast, given what they bring in,

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>given how much they're paying their coaches and the staffs,

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I want three good teams, right, that's not too much

0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>to ask, no, And also, look at the West right now,

0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you have Alabama great, you have Auburn turnover. You have

0:51:57.600 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 2>LSU turnover and underwhelming quarter back play. Auburn with Jared

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 2>Stidham should be better. Texts A and M totally up

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the air. Arkansas, you have no idea what you're getting.

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.919
<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State they're fine, they're not Mississippi State with dak

0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Ole miss took a big step back last year, a

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 2>really awful recruiting class, and they're up in the air

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 2>as well. So this would be a year or reality

0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 2>in the short term for the SEC eas to make

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<v Speaker 2>a move. So that's why there is optimism within the

0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 2>context of the conference. I just I'm not getting worked up. Ty, Okay,

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 2>what else we got one? I've got one final situation.

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<v Speaker 1>There. It is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oregon and Notre Dame, oh God, are behind the

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 2>national pack, period.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 1>And that is the reality in which we live.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the pack. Yes, two teams that went four and eight.

0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 2>In case you missed it, twenty sixteen, Oregon made a change.

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame made many changes on the staff, but not

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 2>at the top. Oregon and Notre Dame are just behind

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the National power Pack. After being in the conversation for

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 2>a good amount of time.

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, so the National power Pack, are we going

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to assume that's the top ten team.

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say top fifteen to twenty. Okay, So both

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of these teams bringing in a ton of new faces,

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Oregon more so on the coaching side, and return a

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>ton on the field, but that also means very bad defense.

0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And even in the short term in the next two

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 2>three years, it's hard to sort of point to specific relief.

0:53:32.920 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame maybe more of.

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 1>A cultural ment meltdown, a little distrust between the coaches

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.439
<v Speaker 1>and players and vice versa. Bringing in new quarterback after

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Kaiser declares for the draft, defense takes a big

0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>step back, but an infusion of new blood and scheme

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and culture is what's hoped for in South Bend.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is an excellent question, Dan Yea, because as

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.160
<v Speaker 2>we both know, it doesn't take much to slip it

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 2>doesn't in college football, it doesn't. So I think we

0:54:04.800 --> 0:54:09.759
<v Speaker 2>had two different circumstances this year. Oregon had declined.

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they really caught you by surprise, right,

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.880
<v Speaker 1>You had kind of been reading the writing on the wall,

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>for we knew the defense a while it was in

0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a We knew the defense was in a very bad place.

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And you were never sold on Mark Helfrich as a

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 1>head football coach. He was never like the second coming

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 1>of Chip Kelly. Correct, So it didn't really catch you

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 1>by surprise. What happened at Notre Dame caught a lot

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of folks by surprise, myself included even people that follow

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame football. I think there was an expectation that

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the defense could take a step back, that the offense

0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>could have a bit of a feeling out period. But

0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the degree to which Notre Dame imploded was something that

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>really caught people flat footed. As part of the reason

0:54:51.200 --> 0:54:53.680
<v Speaker 1>why the four and eight joke is still kind of funny. Right,

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>So these are two programs that are in different situations.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:54:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there is still.

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Enough place at Notre Dame talent wise that they can

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:06.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of pick up where they left off the year

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 1>prior and find their way back into the top fifteen

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 1>this coming season. Oregon, Dan, you got to tell me, Oregon,

0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it feels like, structurally, in terms of talent, in terms

0:55:17.560 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>of schematics, logistics, you name it, it feels like there

0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:23.680
<v Speaker 1>might have been more wrong on the Oregon side than

0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.759
<v Speaker 1>on the Notre Dame side, which just kind of went

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 1>boom all at once. Yeah, Oregon, culturally it was sort

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of a mess, and that was the sort of understated

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>story of the past couple of years. And Vernon Adams

0:55:34.480 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>did a really good job turning the offense into something

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty big a couple of years ago.

0:55:39.160 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 2>But this past year, true freshman quarterbacks surrounded by a

0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:45.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of talent. There's the offense is loaded. Oregon's offense

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:48.319
<v Speaker 2>coming back this year. They basically because their starting left

0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:51.720
<v Speaker 2>tackle got hurt pretty early on. They returned five starting

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.160
<v Speaker 2>offensive linemen, which is a good place to be in.

0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's Mario Crystobal, who is a very very good

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:01.720
<v Speaker 2>offensive line coach, you know, a nationally I think associate whatever.

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 2>They return a ton of skill talent, including Royce Freeman.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:08.399
<v Speaker 2>They've got a starting quarterback and Justin Herbert. Defensively, there's

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.920
<v Speaker 2>still a mess. There's not much good about the defense

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>other than the fact that it is starting from scratch

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:15.960
<v Speaker 2>with Jim Levitt going back to A three to four,

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.319
<v Speaker 2>which they are better suited for because what they were

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:19.879
<v Speaker 2>really bad running A three to four of the year

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 2>before under Don Pelham. So I think it's fair to

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 2>assume that they will be much improved. But I can't

0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>say with authority right now looking at both of these rosters,

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dames, which you obviously know better, in Organs, which

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I know better. Right now, the reality is Notre Dame

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 2>and Oregon, given the questions, given the new faces, and

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.320
<v Speaker 2>the uncertainty, I'm going to say this is the reality.

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 1>This is it. They're behind. I don't feel like Notre

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Dame is behind quite yet, okay, but there is limitless

0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>potential for them to fall behindding how twenty seventeen goes,

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a very discussible situation for Notre Dame. I

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>happen to think they will be okay, and I think

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they've got the talent to be top fifteen Oregon. I

0:57:13.120 --> 0:57:17.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like with a new coach to call them top

0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>fifteen for twenty seventeen, I'm not feeling that.

0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Maybe how many confidence games? How many confidence games do

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you have?

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:57:25.200 --> 0:57:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Oregon finished like number twenty one or something

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 2>like that and go eight befour or whatever. How many

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>confidence games do you have about Notre Dame right now?

0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Because I count confidence two and a half three games

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<v Speaker 2>where I can say with authority Notre Dame one percent

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<v Speaker 2>should win. And that's Boston College, Miami of Ohio, and

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<v Speaker 2>some combination of NC State or Wake Forest. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>read it off to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Read the schedule off to me.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty seven. So so we have at home to

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<v Speaker 2>start the season, Temple and then Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Georgia is a tough game.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are I'm not going to confidently say that Temple is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going down to Notre Dame. Temple almost beat

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State last year. That should be a win. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're more confident than I am at Boston College, at

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan State, which Notre Dame barely, not barely, they got by.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't get by in Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 2>At North Carolina new quarterback, but Carolina has been a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty decent program. USC at home, I don't have much

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<v Speaker 2>confidence there. They're at Miami. It'll be good game. I

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<v Speaker 2>just the confidence isn't there for me? Navy who can

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<v Speaker 2>say with confidence about that? And at Stanford I would

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<v Speaker 2>be shocked if they went ten and two. I would

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<v Speaker 2>probably be shocked at ten and two as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I feel like the talent is there for

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<v Speaker 1>them to potentially do it here. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there was less wrong with Notre Dame structurally than there

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<v Speaker 1>was at Oregon. sEH, I'm the twine to say this

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<v Speaker 1>is not it. I feel more confident in Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 1>getting there, not falling behind the pack than I do Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, this is not it, Dan, we disagreed. Disagree

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<v Speaker 2>more if I made side before we conclude this episode,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you want it to add anything. If no, no, no

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<v Speaker 2>quick post game go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>This is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to I'm not going to change. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to clarify my statements about Cake, a love of heated opinions,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of heated opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, before we get to that, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>Now talk to me about so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned that at my wedding I'll be serving donuts

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<v Speaker 2>I think from a wall instead of wedding cake because

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<v Speaker 2>it is my opinion that cake is trash. Cake is

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<v Speaker 2>for children's birthday parties and uncreative weddings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me. That's what my thought is.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I will say

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<v Speaker 2>this about cake. There are certain kinds of cake, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the ones that are frostingless or limited to sort of glazes,

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<v Speaker 2>like your kingcake that's found in New Orleans around Marty

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<v Speaker 2>Grot time, some of your bunts I can get down

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<v Speaker 2>with where it's just sort of like there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of icing dripping down, a little maybe TRANSLUCENTI ish,

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<v Speaker 2>what about cheesecake, sort of a hybrid kind of cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheesecake is fine, I don't need it in my life, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, but if cheesecake is placed in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'll have some cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Here. A cake hedger right now is what I'm hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, a little bit of a cake, A tea cake,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever had tea cake, be

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<v Speaker 1>very good. A crumb cake, coffee cake, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm down with. So this is like the Bubba

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<v Speaker 1>scene now in Forrest Gump, where you're listing to all

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<v Speaker 1>the kinds of cake, but your standard issue wedding cake,

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<v Speaker 1>supermarket cake, rectanglear circle covered in frosting with things written

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<v Speaker 1>on top, and your sort of floury icing ribbons surrounding everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that has any place in American society. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how you feel about cake. What I

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<v Speaker 1>care about, as your co host of many years now

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<v Speaker 1>and more importantly your friend, is how you came to

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<v Speaker 1>the conclusion that you needed to clarify your comments because

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<v Speaker 1>there's only two options here. Option A, right is that

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<v Speaker 1>you took guph for this on Twitter or via email

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever. Option B is that you are an obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>foodie who thought about this for the last seven days.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this was only yesterday that I thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have gotten mostly overwhelming positivity about donuts over cake.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised by that, but I did see that

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've gotten overwhelming positivity.

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<v Speaker 2>But as somebody who wants to remain as honorable and

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<v Speaker 2>truthful to foods is humanly possible, I wanted to clarify

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not fair for me to put out there

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't like cake and to have people out

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<v Speaker 2>there listening to this show and think.

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<v Speaker 1>How does Dan not like kingcake? How does Dan not

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<v Speaker 1>like crumb cake? How does Dan not like a good

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<v Speaker 1>bunt that keeps me up at night? Tie? I do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to project the wrong image of myself. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still not totally sold in this donut wall idea. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to be How are you not sold? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sold on it? What kind of donuts do you like?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about liking donuts, It's more about the sanitary situation.

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<v Speaker 1>The sanitary I need to see it in action. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to wait to reserve judgment right now. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>pictures by going what side is this Pinterest? I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>Pinterest now with a donut wall. Okay, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>see it in action here. I want to see I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the setting. I want to see how

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<v Speaker 1>it adds to the environment.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I're willing to eat cake that's sitting on a

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<v Speaker 2>table all night.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not willing to eat a donut that's sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on a peg, cake is sliced up by a designated

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<v Speaker 1>cake slicer, presumably somebody hands all over your presumably somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who works at the venue donuts you could be have.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have people going up their window shopping. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I want the glazed don't? I'm going to put it

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<v Speaker 1>back and get the sprinkles. I just need to see

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<v Speaker 1>you're not your action level with the donut wall before

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<v Speaker 1>I commit to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine the people at my wedding tie. I am

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<v Speaker 2>an upper crust kind of fella. Food wise, sure we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be having HOI POLOI touch and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I actually I shouldn't say that. There's all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of weird oo's on both. Is there going to

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<v Speaker 1>be alcohol at your wedding? Because if so, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>rule it out, you can't hold it out. I'm sorry, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>these are all fair points. And I believe we will

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<v Speaker 1>have an auxiliary dessert table if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>chance it. I believe there will be an auxiliary cookie

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<v Speaker 1>and fruit. See I should have known better with you,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay, yes, there will be.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a handheld cookie, brownie fruit kind of

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<v Speaker 2>table if that. If you have serious concerns, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>you covered.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's all fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you play the this is It?

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<v Speaker 1>Some one more time?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the song you want to, just the stab? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the end of the show. That's all we have

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<v Speaker 1>for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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<v Speaker 1>for myself, Ty holding Brand. Thanks again for tuning in.

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