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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm a.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for dake Edo State? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Woo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid Purple boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty hilden Brand. I am joined as always

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Speaker 1: buy my trusted co host over there in beautiful New

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Speaker 1: York City. A gentleman we know well as Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, Ty, I am in the audio mausoleum in

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Speaker 2: it is not well, that would I guess imply that

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Speaker 2: there are multiple bodies in here, which I really hope not.

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Speaker 2: Life is good, Tie, life is good at least if

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Speaker 2: you are a Mississippi State fan. Yeah, you are Mississippi

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Speaker 2: State fan. Life is glorious. What is a mausoleum?

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Speaker 1: By it? I mean I know what a mausoleum is, right,

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Speaker 1: What is an audio mausoleum?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not in the audio coffin anymore? Ty, So

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Speaker 2: I'm trying out names for this. It almost is like

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Speaker 2: a room at an insane asylum, Okay, because it's the

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Speaker 2: walls are pad they are padded hESC audio purposes.

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Speaker 1: Mine are two, so we've got something in common. Love it.

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Speaker 2: So I am in here. There is a rug. It

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Speaker 2: is real warm. It feels like the walls are closing

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Speaker 2: in on me like the garbage compactor. And is it

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Speaker 2: Star Wars? The Empire strikes back one of them, the

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Speaker 2: first one. Yeah, yeah, And I'm feeling good. I'm my

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Speaker 2: brain's gonna get loopy. We have a game to play too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you came up with the game, and I'm actually excited.

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Speaker 1: This is going to go on.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna be me on.

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Speaker 1: Display, thinking on my feet because I don't know what's coming.

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Speaker 1: I have a general sense for what you're gonna what

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Speaker 1: the topics in advance.

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Speaker 2: Name of the game is this is it? And we

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Speaker 2: determine whether or not one of I believe I have

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Speaker 1: If it is the.

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Speaker 2: Current the current thing is a thing that will continue

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Speaker 2: and of course, of course we have it Kenny Loggins themed.

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Speaker 1: We have to. So I'm a little worried. M a

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Speaker 1: the feedback on the fantasy thing scoring was that I

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Speaker 1: need to push back more on you. Really you took

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Speaker 1: me to strike back. I actually can. I've got that.

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Speaker 2: We're I've got that in the quiver. I just don't

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Speaker 2: usually you were the Oklahoma state safety to my Jeremiah

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Speaker 2: Soli in the hot exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm sa. You got audio trucked Tye, and

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Speaker 1: I hate to be the one to break it to you.

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Speaker 1: That of course they did in ESPN was kind of chintzy, right.

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Speaker 1: be that. Because Kenny Loggins is timeless. He is somebody

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Speaker 1: we go way back with Ken, and I believe you

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, sorry, because I was expecting a sound and

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Speaker 1: All right, now, get the boots and tubes ready, Dan, Yes, because.

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Speaker 1: All right, this one actually broke. It's very rare that

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Speaker 2: didn't see it. I don't know the affair of Robert Bentley,

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Speaker 2: Alabama's horndog governor. Okay, the love song of Robert Bentley.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, Alabamas horndog governor. Look it up. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: This is true. This is true, getting those star ward points.

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Speaker 1: Is this it? I am gonna say no? Oh interesting?

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Speaker 2: It is this just the reality in which we live.

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Speaker 2: Right, they only had one one team with a losing

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Speaker 1: These arguments are always really hard for me because I

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Speaker 1: Facts only, ty facts only.

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Speaker 2: losing to the ACC Atlantic, and Florida State in their

437
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Speaker 2: bowl game, Louisville losing to LSU in their bowl game.

438
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Speaker 2: But the rest, I think it's a nice story, and

439
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Speaker 2: you can start to talk me into and then I

440
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Speaker 2: will quickly cut you off the coastal as being sort

441
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Speaker 2: of deep and interesting. But they lose so much in

442
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Speaker 2: the way of quarterbacks that it's really really hard to know.

443
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Speaker 2: PAC twelve North would have had an argument before last

444
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Speaker 2: year because of emerging Washington, Oregon Stanford col producing a

445
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Speaker 2: big quarterback in Jared Goff the year before. But I

446
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Speaker 2: just and obviously Luke Fox and Washington State ac quitting

447
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Speaker 2: themselves very nicely. But at this point you have Ole

448
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Speaker 2: miss going Downssissippi State trending slightly in the upward direction, Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Let's leave it at this.

450
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Speaker 2: Let's leave it at this.

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Speaker 1: Please. It's much easier to make the argument for twenty

452
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Speaker 1: sixteen ACC Atlantic than it is twenty seventeen ACC Atlantic,

453
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Speaker 1: And I think for that reason, I am inclined to

454
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Speaker 1: say that this is not it, at least not yet.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm reversing, just because I can't find

456
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Speaker 2: anyone to be conclusively better ACC Atlantic.

457
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Speaker 1: This is it.

458
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Speaker 2: Wow. You just want to hear that sound, don't you?

459
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Speaker 2: Of course I do. All right, where we going next?

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Speaker 2: All right, next, We're gonna go group of five.

461
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Speaker 1: So we get emails, we get requests like Why don't

462
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Speaker 1: you guys talk about group of five?

463
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Speaker 2: Do some group of five fantasy stuff? I don't know

464
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Speaker 2: if we're gonna go that far, but held on, Oh yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Here it is.

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Speaker 2: Is the American Athletic Conference the best group of five

468
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Speaker 2: conference even without Matt rule. Well, Tom Herman and I.

469
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Speaker 1: Should add Tommy Tubbervell or Bob Diaco in his beautiful hair. Right.

470
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna set some fires with this one, aren't we.

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Speaker 1: So we have the AAC. So this is talent. This

472
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Speaker 1: is not an argument we can win. Regardless of how

473
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Speaker 1: we present our arguments here, we will inevitably get emails

474
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Speaker 1: about this one. People already be pissed off here no

475
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Speaker 1: matter what we no matter what we say. So okay,

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Speaker 1: you go first.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make the case here Temple good amount of

478
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Speaker 2: and some returning talent in uh and I like Jeff Collins.

479
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Speaker 2: I like that higher. The defense shouldn't take too far,

480
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Speaker 2: if not any of a step back South Florida. I

481
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Speaker 2: imagine the defense, which was the issue last year, it

482
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Speaker 2: will get significantly better with Charlie Strong and bringing back

483
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Speaker 2: a ton everywhere, including Quintin Flowers. You know, one of

484
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Speaker 2: the most dynamic playmakers in the country Cincinnati, who knows

485
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: UCF you have to assume improvement. Scott Frost turned them

486
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Speaker 2: around pretty quickly at least to get them back to respectability.

487
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Speaker 2: Yukon and Reht lastly running the offense there. Now you know,

488
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Speaker 2: I guess obviously they're going back to a dream job

489
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Speaker 2: or at a head coach ken Yu Modalolo is as

490
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Speaker 2: consistent as it gets at Navy Tulsa and Philip Montgomery

491
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Speaker 2: I like a lot Houston. I will imagine there will

492
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Speaker 2: be continuity in the short term because of the success recruiting,

493
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Speaker 2: and I think SMU and Chad Morris are only on

494
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Speaker 2: a positive trajectory at the moment. So I'm going to say,

495
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Speaker 2: and I think their only real competition is the Mountain West,

496
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Speaker 2: who I also like. I'm going to say, yes, this

497
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Speaker 2: is it. The AAC remains the top group of five conference.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to wait to play that sound okay until

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Speaker 2: you're response because because I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I agree with you, Dan, Okay, Why I

501
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Speaker 1: agree with you. I'm looking over the roster of teams

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Speaker 1: in both all right, Now, again, everything's relative. I think

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of years there are more teams

504
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Speaker 1: in the AAC that I think could knock off a

505
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Speaker 1: Power five than if I'm looking at the Mountain West. Okay,

506
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Speaker 1: all right, I feel like South Florida with Charlie Strong

507
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Speaker 1: can probably do some damage, you know. I feel like

508
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Speaker 1: Temple could do some damage. East Carolina until recently was

509
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Speaker 1: a team that could knock you off. Navy has actually

510
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Speaker 1: absolutely been pretty good. Houston was good. You mentioned Tulsa.

511
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Speaker 1: Memphis has had some good seasons. All right. They did

512
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Speaker 1: extremely well this season despite losing justin fu wenteoe.

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Speaker 2: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: The depth of teams in the AAC is a little

515
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Speaker 1: bit more ferocious than in the Mountain West, where if

516
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Speaker 1: you look at it, you have You've always got Boise

517
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Speaker 1: State right, ten wins again this year, Wyoming had a

518
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Speaker 1: good season. I don't know if I'm terribly concerned about

519
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Speaker 1: Wyoming knocking me up.

520
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Speaker 2: They bring back Josh Allen right or back, who people

521
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Speaker 2: thought had NFL ability.

522
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Speaker 1: New Mexico had a problem throwing the football. They could

523
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Speaker 1: do was run decent.

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Speaker 2: Nine win New Mexico though, Tye.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine. I'll take a ten and three. Air

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Speaker 1: Force as air Force was dangerous. Colorado State Okay, fine,

527
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Speaker 1: Utah State.

528
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Speaker 2: Eh.

529
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Speaker 1: This past season, San Diego State had a down year,

530
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Speaker 1: sure down year. San Diego State eleven wins. Hawaii wasn't impressed.

531
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Speaker 1: In Jose State was not impressed. Nevada UNLV Fresno State

532
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Speaker 1: was not impressed. So I just feel like the depth

533
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Speaker 1: is there with the AAC. I think it will continue

534
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Speaker 1: to be there. And that is why I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: This is it. I think you're not giving them Mountain

536
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Speaker 2: West enough credit. I think it's a little bit closer.

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Speaker 2: San Diego State went eleve th three and Donnelle Pump

538
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: forgets the attention and you know, is moving on as

539
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: like an all time great. Their defense was so damn good.

540
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: This was as and the improvement. Where was Hawaii two

541
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Speaker 2: three years ago? There were nothing? Chow drove them into

542
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Speaker 2: the ocean and they went seven and seven. First year

543
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: coach Nick Rolovitch, you wouldn't let players sit down, Okay,

544
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Speaker 2: Bob Davey New Mexico nine win, New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Where were they? I love the Mountain West. I love

546
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Speaker 1: the mount West football shout out to Jeremy Moss. Okay,

547
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Speaker 1: all right, lay down that track for me.

548
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Speaker 2: It's very sexy. I know it really is because this

549
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: item is the Big Twelve continuing to go through.

550
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Speaker 1: The state of Oklahoma to win it. Wow, this is

551
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Speaker 1: the Big Well really coming back to how do we

552
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: all feel about Texas, isn't it? Well?

553
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Speaker 2: How do you feel about Texas? How do you feel

554
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: about TCU? How do you feel about improving Kansas? How

555
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 2: do you feel about the wizardry of get well ozoned?

556
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: Bill Snyder? Yeah, okay, this is coming back for Kansas.

557
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: They return a lot Kansas state, all right, So here

558
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: are your options here? You didn't say Oklahoma sooners, he said,

559
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: the state of Oklahoma, the state of because there has

560
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Speaker 2: recently been a ton riding on that Bedlam game.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's go through m hm. How many

562
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Speaker 1: states are involved here in the Big twelve. We've got

563
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Speaker 1: the great state of Oklahoma, of course, right. We've got

564
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Speaker 1: the great state of West Virginia, the Mountaineer state borders

565
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Speaker 1: my state of Pennsylvania. We've got Kansas, great state of Kansas,

566
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Speaker 1: the Sunflower State, I believe, Okay, capital Topeka between k

567
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Speaker 1: state and Kansas. We've also got Iowa, yep.

568
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Speaker 2: In Iowa State.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got Texas with TCU Texas, Texas Tech,

570
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Speaker 1: and Baylor. HM, so I think we can start picking

571
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: teams off right away. It's not gonna be Baylor, it's

572
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be Texas Tech. So that leaves two teams

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Speaker 1: in the great state of Texas. I don't think it's

574
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Speaker 1: going to run through West Virginia. I don't think it's

575
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Speaker 1: going to run through Kansas, and I certainly don't think

576
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Speaker 1: it's going to run through Iowa, which means that it

577
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: comes down to either Oklahoma or Texas, as it often

578
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Speaker 1: does in the Big Twelve. I feel at this point

579
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Speaker 1: that there is much more continuity on the Oklahoma Oklahoma

580
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Speaker 1: state side than I do on the TCU slash Texas

581
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Speaker 1: side of things. So gun to my head, at this point,

582
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: the safer bet is clearly Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: It's not as sure a bet.

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Speaker 1: On the Oklahoma side as I'd like it to be

585
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Speaker 1: to feel truly comfortable about it.

586
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: It runs through the state of Oklahoma, that is. I'm

587
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Speaker 2: not just saying twenty seventeen. I'm just saying, this is

588
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Speaker 2: the reality of the Big twelve. Oh reality, Wow, the reality.

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00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: This is it. This is where we are in life.

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00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: I gotta believe Tom Herman is going to build up Texas.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like we've said that the last like

592
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Speaker 1: eight years about Texas. Oh there's still right. That's been

593
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: the tagline for me. Texas is still Texas. Oh, don't worry,

594
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: they'll be back. They haven't been back. Dan, it should

595
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Speaker 1: be easier.

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Speaker 2: I realize it should be something to note though Bedlam

597
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Speaker 2: November fourth this coming year, it is not the final

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Speaker 2: week of the season. I think the state will be hosting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a championship game I believe so technically

600
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Speaker 2: it will be going through the state of Texas. But

601
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Speaker 2: in terms of the top of the conference. I like

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Speaker 2: West Virginia a little bit. I like West Virginia. West

603
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Speaker 2: Virginia has I think country roads taking you home.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I listen big Bill Greer, okay stepping in in Morgantown

606
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: at some point, who even knows. But they finished the

607
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: season in Norman. They've got Texas in West Virginia. I mean,

608
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Speaker 2: Texas is going to be in Morgantown. They're on the

609
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Speaker 2: road in Manhattan, which is where good teams go to die.

610
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Speaker 2: We know that this is fact, but they have Oklahoma

611
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Speaker 2: State in Morgantown. It's a good year to go to

612
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Speaker 2: McLean and play Baylor. They have Texas Tech in Morgantown

613
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Speaker 2: with a new quarterback. They do go to AM and

614
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Speaker 2: g Carter. I think West Virginia is going to be

615
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun team defense take another step

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Speaker 2: forward last year. There's continuity in Morgantown, which is very

617
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Speaker 2: strange to say.

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Speaker 1: But do you think it's going to run through West

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Speaker 1: Virginia forever more?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's the question. I think now the

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Speaker 2: question is Oklahoma. It's not West the state of so

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Speaker 2: the state is Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I say, yes, this is the reality. This is it.

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Speaker 2: I say it's it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is me bucking the trend here, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I like it. The trend for me has always been

627
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Speaker 1: to go pro Texas. So for me to say this

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Speaker 2: Right, Dan.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready?

656
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: I think I could do this.

657
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think they're speaking directly to

658
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: me because now they're now they're including a pronunciation guy,

659
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: oh wow, which is sort of not fun. But okay,

660
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: they're paying for this, so we'll give them their due.

661
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely cash you chicken stir fry with tango mandarins and

662
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: jasmin rice. Gonna have to pass that one up.

663
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Tie the solid fiance deathly allergic to cashews, all right,

664
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: especially she just got retested, especially allergic to cashews.

665
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: But if you're not sounds delicious? Could I interest solid

666
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: fiance in some oudon noodle soup with miso and soft

667
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: boiled eggs? See that sounds wonderful?

668
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay?

669
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: How about some roasted pork with apple walnut and farrow

670
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: salad and crispy barramundy.

671
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Gonna have to cut you off their tie tree nuts

672
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: and walnuts, but I can appreciate blue Apron throwing in

673
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: all of the ingredients, so you know what to go for,

674
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: what to avoid.

675
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: Would it change your mind if I said that it

676
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: also comes with quenwa and roasted carrot salad. Would that

677
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: changed the equation at all? Yeah? I think she'd get

678
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: down with that.

679
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, maybe just leave out the walnuts then.

680
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Mm hm cood qenwa pronunciation. By the way, thank you.

681
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Speaker 1: You will love how good it feels and taste to

682
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: create incredible home cooked meals of blue apron. Don't wait,

683
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: blue Apron dot com slash solid blue Aprons a better

684
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: way to cook. Ty, I'm going to ask you a

685
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: question as it relates to blue apron.

686
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: Yes. Please, I'm going to ask you if you have

687
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: ever heard of and or eaten a food. And we're

688
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: doing this again, aren't we.

689
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: Yes.

690
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you to pronounce anything. I'm

691
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: just going to ask you if you've heard of and

692
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: or eaten a food. I'm going to say the food

693
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: into this microphone in front of me, and then I

694
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 2: want you to play the drum roll sound.

695
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you have to load that

696
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: up and drum roll, drum roll, drum roll.

697
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: Where is it?

698
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: Ty?

699
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: Have you ever eaten and or heard of soup dumplings?

700
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Yes?

701
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: I have. You've had a soup pumpling or you've heard

702
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: of a soup dumping both? Where did you have soup dumplings?

703
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm in PA Dutch country. Dumplings are a thing. M

704
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very specific. Soup dumplings are Asian generally,

705
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: I believe Chinese. I'm not talking about dumplings in soup. TI.

706
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Get ready for your mind to be blown. I am

707
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: talking about soup inside of dumplings that you can either

708
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: slurp out with a straw or you put the whole

709
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: dumpling into your mouth. It's more it's sort of like

710
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: a noodle pouch that has broth inside of it.

711
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I didn't know about that part. Ah, I've

712
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: had dumplings before. I appreciated the confidence. Obviously, I've heard

713
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: of dumplings. Yeah, of course, I did not assume the

714
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: us like. No, No, they are extraordinary. It remind me,

715
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: are they like those gushers? Remember I used to buy

716
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the gushers.

717
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: Tight in a lot of what they're like Chinese savory gushers. Okay, right,

718
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: they're bigger and it's almost like maybe the size of

719
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: a little bigger than a golf ball. I would say, okay,

720
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: that's a bigger gusher. Then yeah, But they get like

721
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: it's in the the broth is very hot because it's

722
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: it's trapped in there pretty well. It's sealed in by

723
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: the noodle dumpling noodle. And sometimes you'll see like, you know,

724
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: a pork broth, a chicken broth, you know, crab broth.

725
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: Soup dumplings.

726
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Huh.

727
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a weird sensation. They're wonderful. So the answer

728
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: is no, it is it is. That's okay.

729
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: Next time you're in New York, we're against some soupy dumps.

730
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: Where are we going next?

731
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: Next item? Tie lay down that track.

732
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: Ty is the reality in which we live, a reality

733
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: in which Michigan is the perennial bridesmaid. Is Michigan the

734
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: perennial bridesmaid? Is Michigan going to continue to come up

735
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: just short in their own division, conference, and national stage

736
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: and not compete for huge bowl wins? And yes, the

737
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: Orange Bowl is a thing. I'm saying Bigger than that,

738
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying winning the conference getting to the playoff is

739
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: Michigan as they are currently constituted, and as they project forward,

740
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: a team that is very good but not cracking great.

741
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if Jim Harbaugh has a winning record

742
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: against rank teams. I might have to look that up.

743
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: It's not great. Perennially is a long time.

744
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Okay. I'm not comfortable saying perennially because I do believe

745
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: that before long, Jim Harbaugh is going to have them,

746
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: have them perin.

747
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm saying the reality is right now, they're

748
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Speaker 2: a bridesmaid of sorts.

749
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: The reality in the current moment, though, is yes, and

750
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: there are a lot of questions about where that team goes.

751
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: They certainly lose a lot of talent. There are questions,

752
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I think more immediately at quarterback wide open battle, I

753
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: would say.

754
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, where does the offense go?

755
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: So for that reason, I'm inclined to say in the

756
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 1: short term anyway, the bridesmaid thing probably holds. But perennially,

757
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: assuming Jim Harbaughs sticks around for longer than like four years,

758
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: I would expect that they would be competing at a

759
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: very high level. So I'm not comfortable calling them a

760
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: bridesmaid for any period of time beyond twenty seventeen.

761
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: I only say bride'smaid in terms of them being very

762
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: very good, but not great. And this year was a

763
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: relatively fortunate schedule early on and then tests a little

764
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: bit later and faltered. They have a bit of a

765
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: rebuilding project. Yeah, with an open quarterback battle, the offensive

766
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: line needs to be rebuilt. They lose a ton of

767
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: big contributors on defense, particularly in the back end Pepper's

768
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: and Jordan Lewis Jake, but excuse me on offense and

769
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: a couple big receivers gone. I'm going to say with

770
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: how well Ohio State is recruiting and the promise of

771
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State scoring multiple points in a bowl game, moving forward.

772
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to say right now, it is hard for

773
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Speaker 2: me to with confidence and authority say that the reality

774
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: of Michigan as a bridesmaid will change. So I'm going

775
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: to say once again, this is it. You just want

776
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: to hear the sound. Maybe maybe not.

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00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: I think in the short term the bride'smaid thing holds.

778
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: But beyond twenty seventeen, yeah, a lot can go wrong.

779
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: A lot can go wrong. At some point, Ohio State

780
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: is going to have to change out their quarterback. Now

781
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: that's not to say JT. Barrett did them a whole

782
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of favors in twenty sixteen, but at some point

783
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: they're going to have some turnover. You just you never know.

784
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Penn State, I still feel like seeing things can go

785
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: south for Trace McSorley, depending on how the composition of

786
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: that offense changes beyond twenty seventeen. So I don't know

787
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: where Joe Moo is going to be in a couple

788
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: of years. Joemo Saquon has probably gone after a year.

789
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: They have rebuilt the offensive line, but I don't know.

790
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: There are still too many moving parts in the Big

791
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: Ten East for me to feel like I want to,

792
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, call Michigan a perennial bridesmaid.

793
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: So no, it is nice. And we should note that

794
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: neither one of us mentioned Michigan state, which is fantasy

795
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: things points for me twenty seventeen. We've already established that

796
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: I've won that. But this is true, and take it

797
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: from me real life experience. I am marrying a perennial

798
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: Michigan bridesmaid. So she's been a bridesmaid like twelve times,

799
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: and she found her night in shining plaid. I wear

800
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: a lot of plaid, so this could be the year.

801
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: Then twenty seven could be the year. Absolutely, So who

802
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: am I to say that would favor my side of

803
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 2: the argument. Then this is true? Yeah, okay, now okay,

804
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: next lay down that track. Washington Washington Huskies are a

805
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: perennial Pac twelve contender and every three to four year

806
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: playoff team. Ooh, is this a reality in which we live?

807
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Every three to four years a playoff team? So basically

808
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: like Oregon was in the Pac twelve North, competing for

809
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: the conference a year and a year out dominating to

810
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: a certain extent, and I believe Oregon made two national

811
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 2: championship appearances, would have made a playoff appearance in twenty

812
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: ten had it existed then, but in that sort of

813
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: range of maybe flopping with USC or Stanford kind of thing.

814
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: All right, So here, I think is a cruel reality

815
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: of college football. It is very difficult to be Alabama

816
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: or Ohio State. Yeah, Alabama and Ohio State. If you

817
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: look at what they've done recently, those are the two

818
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: best teams in college football, right two best programs in

819
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: college football. Let's say, two healthiest programs right now in terms. Man,

820
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how you leave Clemson two straight National

821
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Championship Game appearances.

822
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Clemson's in the discussion for sure.

823
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: Man, I just okay, all right, I would put them

824
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 1: third personally, not because they didn't get to that game,

825
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: but because I feel like urban Meyer, Nick Saban, they

826
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: will outlast everybody. Okay, so they're like, maybe that's a

827
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: bad argument, but apocalyptic twinkies, that's right, thank you. They're

828
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna survive.

829
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, my ealyptic twinkies. Okay.

830
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like Washington is quite in that

831
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: discussion yet.

832
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: They could get there. They could get there.

833
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson is a very very talented head football coach.

834
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: He's a brilliant mind. He's won everywhere he's been. I

835
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: am not ready to commit to them being on that

836
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: normal rotation. They will definitely be more competitive than we've

837
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: seen at any point in maybe the last twenty years

838
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Washington football, but every three to four years competing for

839
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: a playoff spot, that to me is a bridge too far.

840
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: So I'm going to see no. I'm to see no.

841
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: I am going to say in terms of development and

842
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: coaching and identification of talent, I think the parameters are

843
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: there to do so. I think the first part is true.

844
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: I don't think the second part is true. The playoff

845
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 2: thing is where I have some trouble. I think they're

846
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: going to be a perennial Pac twelve contender. I think

847
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: they win ten games more often than not, as long

848
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: as Chris Peterson is in Seattle. My problem with Washington

849
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: is I question the talent and depth they'll be able

850
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: to build to be at or near the top nationally

851
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: for three to four years. Because as good as you

852
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: know talent is on the West Coast, I still think

853
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: they're competing against a Stanford staff that you know, may

854
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: have put together the most pound four pound talented class

855
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: in the country. The only thing I like twelve recruits

856
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: or something like that, but just a ridiculous class that's

857
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: going to be tough for them. I don't think Oregon

858
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: is a four to eight team moving forward, and that

859
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: is just going to be a difficulty. They've still lost

860
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: whatever it is, thirteen or fourteen to Oregon, and there's

861
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: a lot of talent in Eugene. Washington State is a

862
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: tricky team. And then you have a USC team that

863
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: you know, at least for the next year, has a

864
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: Heisman caliber quarterback and they're recruiting on a crazy level.

865
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: I think the Pac twelve that there's enough parody there

866
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: that it's hard to confidently say the second part of

867
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: that is true.

868
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to say this is not it. Is

869
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: there another conference in college football that presents as varied

870
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: a threat from week to week as the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 1: That's part of my issue with right really christening anyone

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Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve in this you know, perennial contender category. Sure,

873
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Speaker 1: you've got a team like Wazoo, which is going to

874
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: spread you out and go air raid, and you've got

875
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: a team like Stanford, which is just going to try

876
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Speaker 1: and beat your brains in. You've got a team like

877
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Speaker 1: Oregon which at least in recent tradition, has been very spread,

878
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 1: almost a little run pass option oriented. You've got USC,

879
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: which is very pro style. You've got Utah, which just

880
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: beats your brains in with defense. USC's movement has moved

881
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: away from sort of pro style recently with Sam Darnold.

882
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, you get the point.

883
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: Just a very threat from week to week that's really

884
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Speaker 1: tough to prepare for. And so even if you've got

885
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: the most talent in the world, there's always that threat

886
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: that if you got someone on the road, after a

887
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: team like a Stanford, after a team like a Utah,

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00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: even a USC or an Oregon, some team can jump

889
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Speaker 1: up and snipe you. So it's tough for me to

890
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: commit to that for pretty much anybody in college football,

891
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: but certainly in a conference like the Pac twelve, where

892
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Speaker 1: it's it's very easy to drop a game when you

893
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Speaker 1: least expect it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also say in the Pac twelve, I

895
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Speaker 2: think more than any other conference. Maybe I'm wrong about this,

896
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Speaker 2: but this is my general feeling. Every team seems too

897
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Speaker 2: you have, maybe with the exception of Oregon State had

898
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Speaker 2: a very good recent quarterback, So it feels like you're

899
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Speaker 2: always going to get some sort of combination of two

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Speaker 2: or three straight games with very good quarterback play year

901
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Speaker 2: and a year out that I don't see in other

902
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Speaker 2: conferences necessarily. But maybe it's just a West Coast bias thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm totally open to that, but that's my feeling.

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Speaker 1: There are no games that you can sleep on in

905
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve, sure, so I think we're in agreement

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Speaker 1: here in No. The only other point that I would add, Dan,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for the best night's sleep that you've

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Speaker 1: had in a while, always, why don't you look at Casper? Oh, great, call,

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Speaker 1: It's not a ghost. It's a mattress, Dan. It's an

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Speaker 2: So if you don't love it, they will come.

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Speaker 1: They'll pick it up, they'll refund you everything because they understand,

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Speaker 1: you know, the importance of really sleeping on a mattress

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Speaker 1: one third of your life on it. Now. I have

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Speaker 1: not done the math. Casper has been with us for

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Speaker 1: a while. I'm going to assume that they are correct

924
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Speaker 1: in saying one third of your life if you assume

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Speaker 1: eight hours sleep per night, which is wishful thinking for me,

926
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Speaker 1: but a lot of other normal humans can actually achieve

927
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Speaker 1: eight hours a night twenty four hours in a day.

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Speaker 2: You do the math, that's about That's about right.

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Speaker 1: Sure that sounds. How's your sleep been recently? Tie?

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Speaker 2: Awful?

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Speaker 1: What is going on with you?

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Speaker 2: Ty? I never sleep?

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Speaker 1: I'm like mom age, it's the best drug there I need,

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Speaker 1: like a horse tranquilizer or put me to sleep.

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Speaker 2: You don't look at your phone?

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Speaker 1: No, I mean I do, but only once I know

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Speaker 1: I'm awake. Okay, you've tried every position.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Temperatures doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, a solid wife have temperature preferences that

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Speaker 2: are screwing up yourself.

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Speaker 1: The solid wife could sleep through a nuclear apocalypse.

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Speaker 2: Okay, me, it just it's it's not even worth trying.

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Speaker 2: What about like white noise? Have you tried the white

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Speaker 2: noise thing? I know, we've talked about pizziz. The problem

948
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Speaker 2: is not falling asleep. I can fall asleep. The problem

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Speaker 2: is once I'm up, I'm staying up.

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Speaker 1: That's my issue. Maybe Casper can solve it. I've not

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Speaker 1: tried Casper yet. We got to get on that Casper

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Speaker 1: train for you. Then, I think it might be a

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Speaker 1: mattress thing. There might be something to you sinking in perfectly,

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Speaker 1: think really finding your zone, your ram zone. I haven't

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Speaker 1: thought about this before, but maybe.

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Speaker 2: Do you sleep on your back? Do you sleep on

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Speaker 2: your stomach?

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Speaker 1: Usually on my right shoulder. I'm a side sleeper.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm gonna picture my I have weird dreams

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Speaker 2: when I sleep on my right shoulder. I'm a left

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Speaker 2: shoulder guy. Yeah, mhmm. You ever noticed that when you

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Speaker 2: face a different direction, your dreams are stranger?

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Speaker 1: They left side sleepers are the only people in their

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Speaker 1: right minds. Really, I don't know. I just that was

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Speaker 2: The SEC East will just remain blah and nothing and

977
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Speaker 2: not interesting and not really improve top to bottom.

978
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Speaker 1: By the way, in this soundclip the way here at got,

979
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, play if you play it clean, I

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Speaker 1: won't talk over it. You can hear it.

981
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Speaker 2: There is there, it is there, it is there?

982
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: Was you tell no lies?

983
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: All right? What was the question again? I'm sorry, I got,

984
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: I got. The SEC East remains just totally underwhelming.

985
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't even even think about that. Yeah, Oh it's wonderful.

986
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: Should I go, Max Kellerman? Next topic here? Next topic?

987
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's give this. It's due the teams

988
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: in the SEC East. For those of you playing along

989
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: at home, We've got Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Vandy.

990
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 2: And Missou. I am Florida.

991
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Finished very strongly on the recruiting trail. There was a

992
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: lot of doubt about how Florida was going to do

993
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: in recruiting, and there's a fair amount of internet commentary

994
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: about how they have underwhelmed on that front. Now, they

995
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: did close in a very strong fashion, so we'll give

996
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: them benefit of the doubt. But so far anyway, it

997
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: seems as if they've had some trouble building up an offense.

998
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna wait to reserve judgment on Florida. Defensively,

999
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: the been very stout, but offensively they've underwhelmed, so I'm

1000
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: not I'm not feeling in on the On the Florida front,

1001
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee loses a fair amount, and I think it's not

1002
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: without reason that people have doubted whether or not Butch

1003
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: Jones can win the big one, whether or not he

1004
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: can take this program to the next level. Georgia, you

1005
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: might remember, just fired their coach two years ago. I

1006
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: happen to like Kirby Smart, happened to like what he's

1007
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: done on the recruiting trail, and I really like Jacob Eason.

1008
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: But if the only team that I really feel good

1009
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: about in the SEC East is Georgia.

1010
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not getting I'm not getting worked up, especially

1011
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: because I tend to look at quarterback and South Carolina

1012
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: has a promising quarterback situation, so there's upward trajectory. There

1013
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: some upward trajectory from Vandy, Kentucky, Tennessee, Florida. I just

1014
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling too much, even if there's decent enough

1015
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: quarterback play about these teams as a whole. Georgia improving.

1016
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: But we'll see what Jacob E's in, big arm, big talent.

1017
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: They've got Jake from State Farm coming in. Yeah, I'm

1018
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: going to say, this is it, This is just this

1019
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: is what we got. Oh my god.

1020
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: We agree and you just love that sound, but I do.

1021
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: I said it was not it last time. Yeah, okay,

1022
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 1: here is the bug in the ointment though, Hey me,

1023
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: you said underwhelmed. Underwhelm's a relative term. Life is nothing

1024
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: if not expectation based.

1025
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: Right.

1026
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: You go into a movie, you don't know what it's about,

1027
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: you don't have any expectations for it. More often than that,

1028
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: you come out feeling like, yeah, I just saw a

1029
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: good movie. Mm hm.

1030
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: The question is because the bar has been so low

1031
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 2: for the.

1032
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Speaker 1: Sec East, Now, what is your threshold for being underwhelmed.

1033
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: I want three good teams, Okay, given the talent in

1034
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: the area in the Southeast, given what they bring in,

1035
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: given how much they're paying their coaches and the staffs,

1036
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: I want three good teams, right, that's not too much

1037
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: to ask, no, And also, look at the West right now,

1038
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: you have Alabama great, you have Auburn turnover. You have

1039
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: LSU turnover and underwhelming quarter back play. Auburn with Jared

1040
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: Stidham should be better. Texts A and M totally up

1041
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: in the air. Arkansas, you have no idea what you're getting.

1042
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: Mississippi State they're fine, they're not Mississippi State with dak

1043
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Ole miss took a big step back last year, a

1044
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: really awful recruiting class, and they're up in the air

1045
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: as well. So this would be a year or reality

1046
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: in the short term for the SEC eas to make

1047
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: a move. So that's why there is optimism within the

1048
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: context of the conference. I just I'm not getting worked up. Ty, Okay,

1049
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: what else we got one? I've got one final situation.

1050
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Speaker 1: There. It is.

1051
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon and Notre Dame, oh God, are behind the

1052
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: national pack, period.

1053
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: And that is the reality in which we live.

1054
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: Behind the pack. Yes, two teams that went four and eight.

1055
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: In case you missed it, twenty sixteen, Oregon made a change.

1056
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: Notre Dame made many changes on the staff, but not

1057
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: at the top. Oregon and Notre Dame are just behind

1058
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: the National power Pack. After being in the conversation for

1059
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: a good amount of time.

1060
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: All right, so the National power Pack, are we going

1061
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: to assume that's the top ten team.

1062
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say top fifteen to twenty. Okay, So both

1063
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: of these teams bringing in a ton of new faces,

1064
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: Oregon more so on the coaching side, and return a

1065
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: ton on the field, but that also means very bad defense.

1066
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: And even in the short term in the next two

1067
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: three years, it's hard to sort of point to specific relief.

1068
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: Notre Dame maybe more of.

1069
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: A cultural ment meltdown, a little distrust between the coaches

1070
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: and players and vice versa. Bringing in new quarterback after

1071
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser declares for the draft, defense takes a big

1072
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: step back, but an infusion of new blood and scheme

1073
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: and culture is what's hoped for in South Bend.

1074
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Speaker 2: Wow, this is an excellent question, Dan Yea, because as

1075
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 2: we both know, it doesn't take much to slip it

1076
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 2: doesn't in college football, it doesn't. So I think we

1077
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: had two different circumstances this year. Oregon had declined.

1078
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they really caught you by surprise, right,

1079
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: You had kind of been reading the writing on the wall,

1080
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: for we knew the defense a while it was in

1081
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: a We knew the defense was in a very bad place.

1082
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Speaker 1: And you were never sold on Mark Helfrich as a

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Speaker 1: head football coach. He was never like the second coming

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Speaker 1: of Chip Kelly. Correct, So it didn't really catch you

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Speaker 1: by surprise. What happened at Notre Dame caught a lot

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00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: of folks by surprise, myself included even people that follow

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football. I think there was an expectation that

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00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: the defense could take a step back, that the offense

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00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: could have a bit of a feeling out period. But

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00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: the degree to which Notre Dame imploded was something that

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00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: really caught people flat footed. As part of the reason

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00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: why the four and eight joke is still kind of funny. Right,

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Speaker 1: So these are two programs that are in different situations.

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00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: I feel like there is still.

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Enough place at Notre Dame talent wise that they can

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Speaker 1: kind of pick up where they left off the year

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00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: prior and find their way back into the top fifteen

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Speaker 1: this coming season. Oregon, Dan, you got to tell me, Oregon,

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00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: it feels like, structurally, in terms of talent, in terms

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00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: of schematics, logistics, you name it, it feels like there

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00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: might have been more wrong on the Oregon side than

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00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: on the Notre Dame side, which just kind of went

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00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: boom all at once. Yeah, Oregon, culturally it was sort

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00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: of a mess, and that was the sort of understated

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00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: story of the past couple of years. And Vernon Adams

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00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: did a really good job turning the offense into something

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00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: pretty big a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: But this past year, true freshman quarterbacks surrounded by a

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Speaker 2: lot of talent. There's the offense is loaded. Oregon's offense

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00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 2: coming back this year. They basically because their starting left

1111
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 2: tackle got hurt pretty early on. They returned five starting

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Speaker 2: offensive linemen, which is a good place to be in.

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Speaker 2: And it's Mario Crystobal, who is a very very good

1114
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Speaker 2: offensive line coach, you know, a nationally I think associate whatever.

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Speaker 2: They return a ton of skill talent, including Royce Freeman.

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00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: They've got a starting quarterback and Justin Herbert. Defensively, there's

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00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 2: still a mess. There's not much good about the defense

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00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: other than the fact that it is starting from scratch

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Speaker 2: with Jim Levitt going back to A three to four,

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 2: which they are better suited for because what they were

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00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 2: really bad running A three to four of the year

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00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: before under Don Pelham. So I think it's fair to

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Speaker 2: assume that they will be much improved. But I can't

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Speaker 2: say with authority right now looking at both of these rosters,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dames, which you obviously know better, in Organs, which

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: I know better. Right now, the reality is Notre Dame

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00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: and Oregon, given the questions, given the new faces, and

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00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: the uncertainty, I'm going to say this is the reality.

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Speaker 1: This is it. They're behind. I don't feel like Notre

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00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: Dame is behind quite yet, okay, but there is limitless

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00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: potential for them to fall behindding how twenty seventeen goes,

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00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: this is a very discussible situation for Notre Dame. I

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00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: happen to think they will be okay, and I think

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00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: they've got the talent to be top fifteen Oregon. I

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: feel like with a new coach to call them top

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00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: fifteen for twenty seventeen, I'm not feeling that.

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: Maybe how many confidence games? How many confidence games do

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00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: you have?

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00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 2: I think Oregon finished like number twenty one or something

1141
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: like that and go eight befour or whatever. How many

1142
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: confidence games do you have about Notre Dame right now?

1143
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: Because I count confidence two and a half three games

1144
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: where I can say with authority Notre Dame one percent

1145
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: should win. And that's Boston College, Miami of Ohio, and

1146
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: some combination of NC State or Wake Forest. All right,

1147
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: read it off to me.

1148
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: Read the schedule off to me.

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00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: In twenty seven. So so we have at home to

1150
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: start the season, Temple and then Georgia.

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00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Georgia is a tough game.

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Those are I'm not going to confidently say that Temple is,

1153
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, going down to Notre Dame. Temple almost beat

1154
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: Penn State last year. That should be a win. Okay,

1155
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: you're more confident than I am at Boston College, at

1156
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: Michigan State, which Notre Dame barely, not barely, they got by.

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: They didn't get by in Michigan State.

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00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: At North Carolina new quarterback, but Carolina has been a

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00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: pretty decent program. USC at home, I don't have much

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00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: confidence there. They're at Miami. It'll be good game. I

1161
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: just the confidence isn't there for me? Navy who can

1162
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: say with confidence about that? And at Stanford I would

1163
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: be shocked if they went ten and two. I would

1164
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: probably be shocked at ten and two as well.

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00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like the talent is there for

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: them to potentially do it here. And like I said,

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00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: there was less wrong with Notre Dame structurally than there

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: was at Oregon. sEH, I'm the twine to say this

1169
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: is not it. I feel more confident in Notre Dame

1170
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: getting there, not falling behind the pack than I do Oregon.

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Speaker 2: All Right, this is not it, Dan, we disagreed. Disagree

1172
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: more if I made side before we conclude this episode,

1173
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: unless you want it to add anything. If no, no, no

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00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: quick post game go ahead.

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Speaker 1: This is it.

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00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 2: I'd like to I'm not going to change. I'm going

1177
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: to clarify my statements about Cake, a love of heated opinions,

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Speaker 2: A lot of heated opinions.

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, before we get to that, I'm just going

1180
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: to throw this out there. Please do please do follow

1181
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: us on Facebook and Twitter. We are going to be

1182
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: posting a link to our audience survey, which I mentioned

1183
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the show. We're also going to

1184
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: be posting another survey type thing. Yeah, it's the verbis ah.

1185
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: We're not going to be doing it at Radio City

1186
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: Music Hall the way we did last year.

1187
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: We trash the place. But Verby's voting is going to

1188
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: go up in short order. We're going to post that.

1189
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: We're going to have people vote over the next week,

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00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: week and a half or so. We're going to do

1191
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: the Verby Show tentatively in two weeks. Great, so vote

1192
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: take part in that. It'll be a lot of fun.

1193
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: It's one of the better shows we do all year.

1194
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: We have fuone with it, and we hope you do too.

1195
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Now talk to me about so.

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: I mentioned that at my wedding I'll be serving donuts

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: I think from a wall instead of wedding cake because

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01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: it is my opinion that cake is trash. Cake is

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Speaker 2: for children's birthday parties and uncreative weddings.

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Speaker 1: That's me. That's what my thought is.

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01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I will say

1202
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: this about cake. There are certain kinds of cake, especially

1203
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: the ones that are frostingless or limited to sort of glazes,

1204
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 2: like your kingcake that's found in New Orleans around Marty

1205
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: Grot time, some of your bunts I can get down

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: with where it's just sort of like there's a little

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01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: bit of icing dripping down, a little maybe TRANSLUCENTI ish,

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Speaker 2: what about cheesecake, sort of a hybrid kind of cake.

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Speaker 2: Cheesecake is fine, I don't need it in my life, Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, but if cheesecake is placed in front of me,

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01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: sure I'll have some cheese.

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Speaker 1: Here. A cake hedger right now is what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, a little bit of a cake, A tea cake,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever had tea cake, be

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01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: very good. A crumb cake, coffee cake, that kind of

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01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: thing I'm down with. So this is like the Bubba

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01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: scene now in Forrest Gump, where you're listing to all

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: the kinds of cake, but your standard issue wedding cake,

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: supermarket cake, rectanglear circle covered in frosting with things written

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01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: on top, and your sort of floury icing ribbons surrounding everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that has any place in American society. Listen,

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01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't care how you feel about cake. What I

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01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: care about, as your co host of many years now

1224
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: and more importantly your friend, is how you came to

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: the conclusion that you needed to clarify your comments because

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01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: there's only two options here. Option A, right is that

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Speaker 1: you took guph for this on Twitter or via email

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Speaker 1: or wherever. Option B is that you are an obsessed

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Speaker 1: foodie who thought about this for the last seven days.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this was only yesterday that I thought about it.

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Speaker 2: I have gotten mostly overwhelming positivity about donuts over cake.

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Speaker 2: I was surprised by that, but I did see that

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01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 2: as well.

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01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: So I've gotten overwhelming positivity.

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Speaker 2: But as somebody who wants to remain as honorable and

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 2: truthful to foods is humanly possible, I wanted to clarify

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01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: because it's not fair for me to put out there

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: that I don't like cake and to have people out

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01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: there listening to this show and think.

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01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: How does Dan not like kingcake? How does Dan not

1241
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: like crumb cake? How does Dan not like a good

1242
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: bunt that keeps me up at night? Tie? I do

1243
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: not want to project the wrong image of myself. I'm

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: still not totally sold in this donut wall idea. Dan,

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01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: I got to be How are you not sold? I'm

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01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: not sold on it? What kind of donuts do you like?

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Speaker 1: It's not about liking donuts, It's more about the sanitary situation.

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Speaker 1: The sanitary I need to see it in action. I'm

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01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: going to wait to reserve judgment right now. I've seen

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: pictures by going what side is this Pinterest? I'm on

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01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: Pinterest now with a donut wall. Okay, I need to

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: see it in action here. I want to see I

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01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: want to see the setting. I want to see how

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01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: it adds to the environment.

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Speaker 2: Before I're willing to eat cake that's sitting on a

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01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: table all night.

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Speaker 1: If you're not willing to eat a donut that's sitting

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01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: on a peg, cake is sliced up by a designated

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01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: cake slicer, presumably somebody hands all over your presumably somebody

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Speaker 1: who works at the venue donuts you could be have.

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Speaker 1: You could have people going up their window shopping. Do

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Speaker 1: I want the glazed don't? I'm going to put it

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: back and get the sprinkles. I just need to see

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: you're not your action level with the donut wall before

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Speaker 1: I commit to it.

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Speaker 2: I imagine the people at my wedding tie. I am

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Speaker 2: an upper crust kind of fella. Food wise, sure we're

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Speaker 2: not going to be having HOI POLOI touch and stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right. I actually I shouldn't say that. There's all

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Speaker 1: sorts of weird oo's on both. Is there going to

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Speaker 1: be alcohol at your wedding? Because if so, you can't

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Speaker 1: rule it out, you can't hold it out. I'm sorry, Ty,

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Speaker 1: these are all fair points. And I believe we will

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Speaker 1: have an auxiliary dessert table if you don't want to

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Speaker 1: chance it. I believe there will be an auxiliary cookie

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01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: and fruit. See I should have known better with you,

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01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: but okay, yes, there will be.

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01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: There will be a handheld cookie, brownie fruit kind of

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: table if that. If you have serious concerns, we've got

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Speaker 2: you covered.

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01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: All right, that's all fair enough.

1282
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: Can you play the this is It?

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: Some one more time?

1284
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 2: Now?

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: Not the song you want to, just the stab? Yeah,

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01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: there it is.

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: This is it.

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01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: That's the end of the show. That's all we have

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

1290
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: for myself, Ty holding Brand. Thanks again for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in a week. In the meantime, don't

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1293
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,200
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Speaker 1: catch you in a week space solid Peace m