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Speaker 1: Here we go earning their stripes. Are Marlin's Prospects show

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Speaker 1: here on the Fish Stripes podcast network. I'm Eli Susman here.

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Speaker 1: As usual, instead of doing the official show focusing on

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Speaker 1: the Major League Miami Marlins fish themselves, we are switching

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Speaker 1: it up an impromptu Prospects week here on our podcast channel.

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Speaker 1: Do to a couple special guests that we have lined

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Speaker 1: up to speak with about the minor league season here

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Speaker 1: so far in twenty twenty one. Later in this episode,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking to Chris Garagiola. He's the broadcaster for

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Speaker 1: the Pensacola Blue Wah, who's the Marlins Double A affiliate.

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Speaker 1: Later in the week, we have a one of the

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Speaker 1: top hitters in the Marlins minor league system this season

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Speaker 1: joining us as well, talking about his success so far

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Speaker 1: and his potential to reach the show in the not

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Speaker 1: so distant future. So we hope you're subscribed to us

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Speaker 1: plenty of major league coverage happening throughout the week itself.

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Speaker 1: We have our Fist Stripes Live series preview coming up

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, we'll still have our small pods. From

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Speaker 1: Tuesday through Friday, we'll have some articles from me one

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Speaker 1: that as usual coming up on Tuesday, It's going to

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Speaker 1: be another trade proposal Tuesday that I'll explain trade the

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Speaker 1: Marlins could and should make as soon as possible, as

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Speaker 1: well as a deeper dive I'll be doing on Jorge

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Speaker 1: al Farrow, not related to that trade proposal, but a

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Speaker 1: separate article about very interesting attributes about who he is

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Speaker 1: as a hitter. On this episode, the first segment we're doing,

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Speaker 1: You guys know where I stand about the trajectory of

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Speaker 1: One of the key swing elements in reaching that conclusion

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Speaker 2: that was a no doubter, Like that's the loudest crack

433
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Speaker 2: of the bat I've heard this year from anybody. And

434
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 2: I think I, I, you know, blew out my mic

435
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: too early on the call just because I knew that

436
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: ball was absolutely dookieed on. So it was just like

437
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 2: all right, really back in Chris, Like we got the

438
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: rest of the call. But he's a good one to

439
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: watch for.

440
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, a shameless plug that our own Spencer Morris on

441
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: Fish Stripes. I think last week had a really long

442
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: article about his progress because he was really hyped as

443
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,719
Speaker 1: an amateur guy, probably all the way back to high school,

444
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been a long road to reach

445
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 1: this level where now he's playing the best ball of

446
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: his pro career. And I mean, as you said, he

447
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 1: just his stock has gone up so much to where

448
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: we thought it was entering the year. For sure, so

449
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: he's hitting pretty well, especially relative to expectations. But what

450
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: I've noticed, you know, I mean watching the games and

451
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: also going through the stats, is that it seems that

452
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: playing at Blue Wahou Stadium. It does a pretty solid

453
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: job suppressing runs. It's not all about the tilent on

454
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: this pitching staff that we'll get into, but a lot

455
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: of low scoring games that are, as we mentioned, decided

456
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: by very close factors. It's so relatively early in the year,

457
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: so I mean Ethan and I we haven't gotten the

458
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: chance to go there ourselves. We're curious about, if you

459
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: could just right what exactly the environment is like in

460
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: that stadium in terms of actually the dimensions of the

461
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: ballpark is something that's hard to actually get the details on.

462
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: But also I've noticed in some broadcasts the wind and

463
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: the factor that the wind has and keeping some balls

464
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: in knocking them out. What is it about that ballpark

465
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: that you think that people should know in terms of

466
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: how it affects you know, the usual raw numbers that

467
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: are put on the scoreboard.

468
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: Right, I think dimensionally it's three twenty three down the

469
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: left field line. I think it might be three thirty

470
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: down the right field line. I think the walls are

471
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: about nine or ten feet tall, so very capable for

472
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: someone to like rob a home run, for example, but

473
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: they're consistent all the way across. And then like any ballpark.

474
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: Your deepest parts are going to be the power alleys

475
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: and left center, right center, and it's four hundred to

476
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 2: just get to dead center field offensively. The wind doesn't

477
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it doesn't often play a factor,

478
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: because this weekend it was like one hundred percent a

479
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: complete factor. We did have a tropical storm come in.

480
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: But ninety percent of the time the wind will come

481
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: in from right field and it'll look like it's coming

482
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: in from dead center. But really, right handers who pull

483
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: the ball will have a slight advantage. It's like hitting

484
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: a draw on golf. You'll get a little bit extra carry.

485
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Riley Mayhon and JJ Bleday, you should just make a

486
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: mental note of this. You should add an extra home

487
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 2: run right now to whatever their total is at the

488
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: end of the season, because both of them hit home

489
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 2: runs that just didn't get out. There was twenty eight

490
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: miles per hour wind blowing in straight from right bladee

491
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: hit a no doubter and the guy caught it on

492
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: the warning track and he hit it over the videoboard

493
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: in terms of height, So like the launch angles, everything

494
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: you dream of, you know at the big leagues, and

495
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 2: if it were Marlin's Park. It might have hit off

496
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: the back wall and right field, like I'm not kidding,

497
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: but it just happens a couple times a year. So

498
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: that's like the dimensions and the weather elements. But you

499
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: got to remember, I mean, you guys know better than

500
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: I do. High a Jupiter before everything was switched around,

501
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: probably drew at best, what like a thousand people? Half

502
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: that yeah, it's probably not even you know. And so

503
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: the Blue wa Whos, even though we have the smallest stadium,

504
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: like with our ownership group and with our president from

505
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: the beginning, has spent a lot of time trying to

506
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: figure out exactly what draws people to the ballpark and

507
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: what keeps them engaged. So like worst case scenario, I mean,

508
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: we had a tropical storm roll through here and we

509
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: still had over four thousand people show up because it

510
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: was a Saturday, and that's what people like to do

511
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: on a pleasant day. Our capacity is five thousand and

512
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: thirty eight. You might see more than that, to be

513
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: honest with you. And they're into it, man, like they're

514
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: cheering guys on guy has bad at bat. They'll let

515
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: them know, you know what I mean, Like it's it.

516
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 2: But for the most part, it's probably an atmosphere that

517
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: none of them have ever experienced unless they got to

518
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: Double A Jacksonville in eighteen or nineteen. Because they also

519
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: do a tremendous job over there, and it's obviously great

520
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: to see them as a Triple A affiliate because they

521
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 2: can get like eleven thousand people and that place is

522
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Speaker 2: just rocking on the weekend. So for them, I think

523
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 2: that it juices him up a little bit. I think

524
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: you see a little more effort. I think you see

525
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: some more quality at bats and it's just I can't

526
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: imagine what it would be like to play five days

527
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: a week or six days a week and only have

528
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: like two hundred people there. Like the game is already

529
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 2: a grind enough, and to try and do that, like

530
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: that's just another element that I mean woolf like that.

531
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: That's just tough.

532
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: You know.

533
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, one thing I want to ask you about

534
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 3: you mentioned him right there is JJ Budey. I think

535
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: that's obviously a lot what a lot of people will

536
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: be coming into this podcast for is to hear about

537
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 3: him from somebody that sees him, you know, first in

538
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: all the time. So we all know that he got

539
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: off to a really tough start this year. But I'm

540
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: looking at the numbers. Now, you know, ninety four way

541
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 3: runs grated plus in the season, he's only hitting two nine,

542
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: But the plete discipline numbers are really good twelve point

543
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: nine percent walk rate, twenty three and a half percent

544
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: K percentage. Then you look at since May twenty eighth,

545
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 3: which is when he really started breaking out, and he's

546
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: hitting two eighty five. The three slug one thirty nine

547
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: weight runs created a plus eight seventy five ops and

548
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: a key percentages below twenty percent, which is more what

549
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: you expect from jj Booday, more what we were hoping

550
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: to see. So what have you seen from him up

551
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: close and personal that has changed since he started breaking out?

552
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: Our balls just kind of falling or did he make

553
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: an adjustment that you noticed?

554
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, let's look at tangibles and then

555
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: the intangibles. I think the first part of that is

556
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: there were quite frankly, some pretty poor at bats to

557
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: start the year, and it looked just like a guy

558
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 2: who was overwhelmed at double A. Now you take in

559
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: the other factors, right, they hadn't played in a long time.

560
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: What is it like at the alternate site? Stuff like that.

561
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: And every single season whenever we begin, pitchers always have

562
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: an advantage over hitters, right like they it's just much

563
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: easier for them. So he didn't really understand what guys

564
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: were trying to do. It looked like maybe at times

565
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: he was guessing a little bit. The swing was kind

566
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: of long. Whatever you said, till May twenty eight, the

567
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: average like two eighty six. You could even go up

568
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: to June first, right, that average I think is up

569
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: to three h five. I love the way it runs

570
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: created plus by the way, and the walk rate has

571
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: always been there as well. So like he knows what

572
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: the zone is, he now understands the way guys are

573
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: trying to pitch to him, and he can then gain

574
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: plan before the game and trying to understand, you know,

575
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: what guys are trying to do. And more importantly, like

576
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: the difference between Bludet and Incarnacion right now from a

577
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: pitch by pitch standpoint, so Inky knows that guys are

578
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: trying to throw him with like a first pitch slider,

579
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 2: first pitch breaking ball. And when you are sitting on

580
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: a breaking ball, when you see the spin out of

581
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: the hand, your brain tells you like pull the trigger,

582
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the pitch. There it is. I got it.

583
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: But you got to also understand that, like it has

584
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: to be released in a certain point, because one will

585
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: break in the strike zone. One won't. So he's constantly

586
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: chasing ones that are a little bit out of the

587
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: zone and falling behind. Whereas Bladet because he has such

588
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: good plate discipline and such good awareness, like he really

589
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: doesn't chase a lot now the way the he did beforehand,

590
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: and he doesn't miss a lot of fastballs like he

591
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: would chase a lot of fastballs that were just above

592
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: the zone, and like that that's a huge indication of

593
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: like a guest hitter, like I'm just looking for a fastball.

594
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 2: There it is. And he's way more comfortable now because

595
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get burned by chasing so many pitches

596
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: out of the zone. So like that's the tangible stuff

597
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: that you see in the box. The intangible part, and

598
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: the thing that excites me a little bit is two

599
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: part one. It never really faced him that he was struggling,

600
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: and like that is a big killer of minor league

601
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: prospects because like you can say it as many times

602
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: as you want, like, hey, you can never get too

603
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: high or too low or whatever cliche a coach taught

604
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: you when you were in middle school. It's like when

605
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: you're actually playing and there's pressure on you and you're

606
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be a prospect, like it's really easy to

607
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: be throwing helmets and snapping bats over your knees because

608
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: you're just you know, you're two strikeouts per game almost,

609
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: And with him, it was like it's not that he

610
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: didn't bother him because he didn't care. Didn't bother him

611
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: because he knew that, like, hey, it's a long season,

612
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: it's a long game. Like this is my first time

613
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: in Double A, I'll figure it out. I'm a good hitter.

614
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: I was a top five pick. I'd led the NC

615
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Double A in home runs, Like I have all these

616
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: different credentials that have established me as like a quality hitter,

617
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: and like he has turned it around. And why you

618
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: guys should be excited is because, like I don't think

619
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: he's reached half the potential that he has, Like he

620
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: could still have some better at bets. He could still

621
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: do a little bit better on breaking balls that are outside.

622
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean, guys still try to work him to the

623
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: outside part of the plate because they have the overshift on,

624
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: and he's still he'll only go to left field or

625
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: left center when it's like off the end of the

626
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: bat or like a jam shot fister that just kind

627
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: of finds some empty grass. But you start working on

628
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: that a little bit and just putting some time in,

629
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: like there's a lot more room to grow. And like

630
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if he doesn't finish the season

631
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: with the average close for like two fifty two sixty,

632
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: And like we've never really had multiple guys with like

633
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: fifteen the twenty home run potential in a season, and

634
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: like this is a shortened season and we could have

635
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: like two or three guys do that with him being

636
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: one of them.

637
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, go ahead, Ethan.

638
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: Sorry, just since you mentioned, I'll tell everybody what the

639
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 3: numbers are in June, as today is June twentieth. So

640
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: three h two average, three fifty three on base, five

641
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: fifty six slug one hundred and forty nine. Waiter runs

642
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 3: straight up plus. So you saw you see him finally

643
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: coming on. It took a month. That happened sometimes in

644
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 3: the minor leagues, and and and you know, but he's

645
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: really showing what his potential can be. And I'm sure

646
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: that'll get a lot of people calmed down, Chris, because

647
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people I see daily mar you know,

648
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: people that mostly followed the big league club freaking out

649
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: a little bit about Bladet. But I just kind of

650
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: wanted to bring everybody down a little bit.

651
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: On Eli.

652
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: You were saying, yeah.

653
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: Well, on the other side of the ball. Because Victor

654
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: Victor Mesa got injured very early in the year, Blade

655
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: has played a lot of center fields. I don't know

656
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: if that's he dabbled in it a little bit in

657
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: spring training. I'm sure the mar want to keep that

658
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: door open as long as possible, but he's now to

659
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: this point played about as much centerfield as he has

660
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: in the corners. What is your evaluation of that Certain

661
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: highlights I've certain I've seen, I've seen a couple other

662
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: low lights overall. Do you think he can stick in

663
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: center field based on what he's done? It looks like,

664
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: what sixteen games or so in centerfield this season?

665
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: I think he could. I really think he could. It's

666
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: it's exciting I said it. That's funny you mentioned it

667
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: because I said it yesterday before. I described his outfield

668
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: defense as being sneaky good and now it's not just sneaky,

669
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: it's the kind of one that just like knocks on

670
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: your door and barges itself in. Like he made this

671
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: catch in right field. I know it's not center, but

672
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: it's a shallow fly. Center fielder was playing too far

673
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: deep and verdict no way that the second basement could

674
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: get there, and he just said, like, efitt, I'm going

675
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: full speed. If I collide into somebody like then that's

676
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: just the choice I've made. Gets full extension and actually

677
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: hits the ground. But he had to hit the ground

678
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: first because he had so much ground to cover, and

679
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: made this like sensational catch to rob Jake Polomachy of

680
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: a base hit. Here's Jake Polomachy. He swings and floats

681
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: one into shallow center coming in Pladay dives. It makes

682
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: the catch, Oh incredible from la day and I just

683
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: like could not fathom that he had the range and

684
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: the reaction to get there. His arm is accurate, whether

685
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: it's in left field, I think he has an outfield

686
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: assist from every spot in the outfield. And his only

687
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: error I don't know what happened, but he was in

688
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: foul territory and was just underneath the ball and then

689
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: it like hit off the heel of his glove and

690
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: we were like, what like it just it just dropped

691
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: the ball, like and I get that'll happen. But outside

692
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: of that, man, like in the major leagues, I think

693
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: he would just be a very average center fielder, but

694
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: in a corner position, like he would be above average.

695
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: Like he's out a plus arm, plus speed, good reaction,

696
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: good with the glove, he knows when to throat a bases,

697
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: he hits the cutoff men like there are bigger, sexier

698
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: numbers and underlining excuse me, underlying defensive metrics that can

699
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: tell you more about him, but like the things from

700
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: the naked eye that you just want to see, like

701
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: does he make the plays that he needs to? Yes?

702
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: Does he make the plays sometimes he shouldn't make. That's

703
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: also a yes. And we've seen other prospects in years

704
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: past where they're actually kind of a liability defensively, and

705
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: actually with budat and center and left and right, it

706
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: kind of doesn't matter. He makes things better and he's

707
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: kind of emerged to me as like one of the

708
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: best all around outfielders that we have on this team,

709
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: even though other guys might have certain tools that that

710
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: might be better.

711
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: I want to ask you a general question just about

712
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: the season and about your job. What kind of grind

713
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: has it been with this sixth this setup that they

714
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: have these you know, every six days and then you

715
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: get the day off Monday, and you're in one city

716
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: for six days, and then you might it's been home away,

717
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: home away, right, so you're only in Pensacola for six

718
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: days at a time. What's set up in are you

719
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 3: calling games remotely on the raid? What's it been like

720
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: with everything that it's been so different and just the

721
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: grind of the schedule right now where it's six days

722
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 3: on one day off.

723
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very fortunate with my ownership group because they

724
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 2: said pretty early on that we want you to travel,

725
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: we want you to be there. If the Marlins have

726
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: said that they don't feel comfortable having you on the bus,

727
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: then you know the expectations that you'll drive yourself, but

728
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: you know, we'll get your hotel like we've done in

729
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: years past. So that part of it has been very normal.

730
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: And I've been in constant communication with the Marlins. And

731
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: because I am fully vaccinated and I am a covered individual,

732
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: which is a whole other minor league guideline. I am

733
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: allowed to ride the bus. I chose not to today

734
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: because this would have been the second Monday in a

735
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: row after a homestand that we would have traveled. We

736
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: would have burned the off day to travel to get

737
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: to the city now Chattanooga last week. That's like a

738
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: seven hour drive. So I understand that this is less

739
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: than four hours, and I just you know what, the

740
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: battery needs to be recharged a little bit, because it does,

741
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: it does get a little taxing after a while. And

742
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: so you know, I'll have a nice dinner with my girlfriend,

743
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: We'll probably watch the little TV and then I will

744
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: next morning wake up early, do a little prep and

745
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: then drive to Birmingham. But these six days and every day,

746
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: every Monday being an off day, ethan is huge because

747
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: like you go into a series and you're excited, like,

748
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: all right, Tuesday, Wednesday, we're learning a little bit about

749
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 2: the teams and the players and how things are going.

750
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: Then usually thirsty Thursday. It's pretty unanimous in minor league.

751
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: So you get your first real crowd. Maybe it's college night.

752
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: People will be sauced up a little bit, they'll be

753
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: getting into it. You got fireworks on Friday and Saturday,

754
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: and then by that point, like your your energy is

755
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: pretty Mum's drained. But you know that, like Sunday's the getaway.

756
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: So it's like, hopefully there's a good pitching matchup. Some

757
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: days it's not the case, and you're just like, all right,

758
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 2: let's just get this one done, pack up the bags,

759
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: get on the bus and head home. So it's good, man,

760
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: it's good. It's consistent because before we could sometimes have

761
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: like twenty five twenty six straight days with games before

762
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: and off day, and that was that was always pretty brutal.

763
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Our special guests here and earning their stripes. Chris Garagiola

764
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: of Double A Pensacola Blue Wahoo's. Yeah, we're going to

765
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: get into some of those pitching matchups very shortly. One

766
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: other position player we wanted to touch on was Paydon Verdict.

767
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: One particular thing that stuck out to me. There are

768
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: other obvious things that stick out when you watch them

769
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: every day, and obviously his power tool, but also his

770
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: iron man streak. I don't know, you've probably picked up

771
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: on this that he's played in every game this season,

772
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: and I pulled it up that he's actually the only

773
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: guy in the Double A South and like one of

774
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: maybe a handful of guys in all of minor league

775
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: baseball that has played every single game. First, I think

776
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: we're now seven series into the year, the first forty

777
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: two games of the year, So that really jumped out

778
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: to me because, of course, these guys did not play

779
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: much baseball at all last year, and I imagine that

780
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: explains why so many of these other players, both in

781
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: the Marlins organization and across minor leagues, and of course

782
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: at the major league level, you see it even more

783
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: than ever, guys resting out of an abundance of caution.

784
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: What do you make of the fact that he's played

785
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: in every game? How much of that is his choice?

786
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: How much of that do you think is the manager,

787
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: Smoke Randall's choice. That's just one stat that really like

788
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: jumped out to me, that he's playing in every single game,

789
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: where it seems that nobody else in the league is well.

790
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: I would say, respectfully that Peyton has zero choice in

791
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: whether or not he plays or doesn't play. I imagine

792
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: that that Smoke and the Marlins front office collaborate on

793
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: that frequently to try and figure out who's going to play.

794
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: I actually had this conversation with Smoke about because for

795
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: a time it was both bla day and burdic because

796
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: the other guys had picked up like little like a

797
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: nick here and there just needed a day something like that.

798
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: But you know, I asked them, how long could you

799
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: realistically go and just have him keep playing before and

800
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: off day? And he was like, you know, personally, I'd

801
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 2: like to just have it where they played every game

802
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: the season, because I mean, you think about it, just

803
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: like we talked about, they have an off day scheduled

804
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 2: for every single Monday, so all you gotta do is

805
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: play six days and then you're getting an off day.

806
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: And when you kind of translate that to a major

807
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: league schedule, I mean you will have teams that go

808
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 2: certainly longer than six days before they get an off day.

809
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: And then I learned this from Pat pat Kelly, who

810
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: was our my first manager when I started working for

811
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: the WA who's in twenty seventeen. I think he's Triple

812
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: A now in Louisville. But he said, look, you get

813
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: to August in September and guys would be complaining about, like,

814
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sore, my legs hurt. You know what

815
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: have you, because it is a grind of a season.

816
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: But the whole point of the minor leagues is that

817
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: this is an apprenticeship for these guys to become masters

818
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: of their trade and then get to Miami or whatever

819
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: major league team and contribute to a winning ball club.

820
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: It's the only thing that matters up there is winning

821
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: and losing. And we used to play one hundred and

822
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: forty games down here. Obviously we're in a shortened season,

823
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: so even if you played a full season down here,

824
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: you're still a month short of what the expectation is

825
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: in the major leagues. So these guys need to play

826
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: like a lot of games because they're young, and it's

827
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: never been better to be playing a lot and having

828
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: that young twenty three to twenty four year old body

829
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: be able to heal certainly much better than like a

830
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: thirty five thirty six year old. So you know, I

831
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: know that Peyton. I'm sure we'll get an off day

832
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: at some point in the near future. I hope that

833
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: he does. If he stays here all season, leads the

834
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: league in appearances, because I do think that's it's important.

835
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: I think it says a lot about a player's durability

836
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: but I certainly want not as just a fan, but

837
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: as someone who pretends to be someone who knows quite

838
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: a bit about baseball, Like I want to see these

839
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: guys playing because they do have the off day, and

840
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: you know, it gets harder once you get to Miami,

841
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: and so this is why you got to push yourself

842
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: now to be better prepared for the highest level.

843
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: I like that idea of this is the apprenticeship to

844
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: go up and master your craft. But so based on that,

845
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: how much fun is it for you to ye're in

846
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: your out? You know, the thing about the minor league

847
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: is you don't get a lot of continuity. It's year in,

848
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: you're out. There's new guys. But how awesome is it

849
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: to see guys achieve their dreams and then all of

850
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: a sudden, in a couple of years from your perspective, they're,

851
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: you know, playing in the big leagues. And now you're

852
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: seeing guys that you watched, you know, in these small

853
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: minor league ballparks, and they're in the biggest stadiums in

854
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: the world.

855
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think in my mind I can

856
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: with some corny line that I thought sounded awesome, and

857
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: then I set it out loud once and it was

858
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: it was really lame. But it was like, you know,

859
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: I hope that once you get here and you leave,

860
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: that I never see you again, right because you're only

861
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: going upwards. And like, you know, I wasn't good enough.

862
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 2: And now I've been around guys where it's like very

863
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: clear what the level it takes, what is required to

864
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: reach the major leagues. And like I think it's like

865
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: in any sport man when you see people figure it out,

866
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: like and especially as I get older. I mean, like

867
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: I'm only twenty nine right now, but you know, heaven

868
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: forbid if I'm doing this at like thirty nine and

869
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 2: you're seeing like these twenty two year olds, like once

870
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: they figure it out, and now they realize that like

871
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: literally the sky's the limit. They've tapped into that potential.

872
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: They understand what it takes. It's exciting, and the best

873
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: part about minor league baseball, the best, very best part

874
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: about being a broadcaster. It's like once you get to

875
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: the major leagues, like it's cool broadcasting in these different

876
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: cities like New York, Las San Francisco, Miami too, Like

877
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: let's party. But the players they kind of adopt this

878
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: idea that like, yeah, I am a big deal, right,

879
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: Like in the media is the media, you know, And

880
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: like when we're in the minor leagues, we're just a

881
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: bunch of dudes trying to figure it out. Like we're

882
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: just taking it day by day, and we're figuring out

883
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: where to go eat, and we're talking about last night's game,

884
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: and we're ripping jokes you know, about bullpen guys or whatever, like,

885
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: you know, And I'm not, certainly not one of these

886
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: people that's like, hey, let me try and be best

887
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: friends with all the players. You know. I think they

888
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: understand that I'm serious about what I do and I

889
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: want to be respectful of them. But they also know

890
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: that I care about the game and I pay attention.

891
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not one of these guys that's

892
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: just going to start lambasting a player because he makes

893
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: a mistake or has a bad ab. It's hard, it's

894
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: a grind, and all the all the credit goes to

895
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: them for forgetting this far. And I hope that they

896
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: can just you know, you're one. I always say, you're

897
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: one good season away to get to double A from

898
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: achieving your dreams, and like some guys, probably isn't gonna

899
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: happen for them and it sucks, but for other guys

900
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: could be the start of something special. You know, there's

901
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of special players on this team, and you

902
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: know for them the floor is reaching the big leagues

903
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: and the ceiling is like who knows, man, I mean,

904
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: Eddie Cabrera the other day like that, I can't, I

905
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: won't swear, but uh, that stuff was big league Like

906
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: that's that's the top end stuff. That's the hardest thing

907
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: for any team to find ever, and you might have

908
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: it right now, like you know, so that it's exciting.

909
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Although Eddie and I don't have too many long conversations.

910
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: My Spanish is a bit poor, but we're we're working

911
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: on it. It's something, it's a goal of mine. I've

912
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: been studying, and maybe maybe a year or two I'll

913
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: be able to chip in a little bit more.

914
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: So. That's a nice treat. Although you already you're already

915
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: pretty spoiled with Max Meyer and Jake Eater already there.

916
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to bring up all three of

917
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: those guys kind of the same time. We've spoken to

918
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: quite a few players in the past and Ethan kind

919
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: of likes to ask them who they compare themselves to,

920
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: and a lot of them Max Meyer actually included the

921
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: first person they go to is Max Scherzer. That seems

922
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: to be like the one guy they all point themselves to,

923
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: or if they decline to do that, sometimes they say

924
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: I'm unique, I'm myself, and they don't compare themselves to anybody.

925
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: But from your vantage point, I thought it'd be interesting

926
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: just to bring that up, as if there are any

927
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: comps that come to minds when you watch Eddie Cabrera

928
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: or Max Meyer or Jake Eater this trio when you

929
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: see these guys pitch. Obviously all three of them have

930
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: had amazing results so far in your database as a

931
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: fan and now for several years as a broadcaster, are

932
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: there any comparisons that you can make.

933
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: There's like two types of people that compare. So it's

934
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: like one guy will see a prospect and be like, well,

935
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: he's probably like the next Ted Williams, and that's like, okay,

936
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: that's not me. I don't like to go I'd like

937
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: to be a little more conservative. So I saw someone

938
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 2: today compare Wander Franco, who just got called up obviously

939
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: to Jose Ramirez, and I thought that is a terrific

940
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: comp Like this guy's been so highly touted and like

941
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez, nobody's gonna say, like is the fifth greatest

942
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: baseball player who's ever lived. But that's how they sometimes

943
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: talk about this kid. So it's like, with all that said,

944
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I like eater to I was talking to somebody kind

945
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: of like a CJ. Wilson prior to when he joined

946
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: the Angels, Like, you know, solid, solid starter. If he

947
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: continues on this trajectory, there's already an understanding of two

948
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: pitches and a pretty good understanding of a third. The

949
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: velocity for him has been consistently higher than Meyer so far,

950
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: and he's pitched a little bit longer. Yeah, I mean

951
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: we see it from from Jake where he can hit

952
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 2: ninety five ninety six and hit ninety six several times,

953
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 2: and that to me is like it's really good stuff

954
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: because you never know how it's going to unfold. And

955
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: that's not a knock against Max or anything like that.

956
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: It's just we're a month into the season and I've

957
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: seen what I've seen. Here's the one in the three

958
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: to two, another strikeout swinging a miss Edward Cabrera. Wow,

959
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: I've had the chance to see him twice in person.

960
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 2: One time he just shoved against us when he was

961
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: pitching for Jacksonville, and now here he is going four

962
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: to third against Montgomery. There aren't a lot of guys

963
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: who sit ninety eight for almost five innings with a

964
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: change up at ninety three ninety four, I mean through

965
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: a ninety four mile an hour change up. And I

966
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: didn't know what to call it because I was like,

967
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: is that a is that slow fastball? Or is that It's.

968
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: Funny you say that because there's a guy just like

969
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 3: that in the Marlins organization at the big league level

970
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: right now, Like you're saying ninety eight and a ninety

971
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: three mile an hour change up, and I'm just thinking,

972
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: Sandy a contra contrat.

973
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: So it's like, I mean, I didn't want to pick

974
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: him necessarily for a comp but I was like, yeah, like,

975
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 2: you know, you can't say to Grom because that he's

976
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: obviously like so good at all of those pitches, but

977
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: like you're talking about elite velocity, you're talking about the

978
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: legitimate use of three pitches. I also apparently found out

979
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: his player card on the show.

980
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: Is just.

981
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: People were lighting us up on Twitter, like this guy

982
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: has given, he's got to get PTSD because this guy's

983
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: so good in the game, but like he is, just

984
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: how many right handed starting pitchers can you realistically find

985
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: in the big leagues who throw one hundred miles an

986
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: hour and are sitting like ninety seven ninety eight, And

987
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 2: then that's where you would start with that comparison. To me,

988
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: the hardest one is Max Meyer, and I know that

989
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: he's ranked higher and he was so dominant in college.

990
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: His slider today would be an above average major league slider.

991
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: Like if you just took that pitch and he gave

992
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 2: it to somebody else, like you would think that that's

993
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: exactly what you're seeing. He's working on a change up,

994
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: but it's not there yet and it's going to take

995
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: time because you can't just spend two weeks on a

996
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: pitch and then be like, oh, there you go. You

997
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: know it's a plus pitch. And his fastball has been

998
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: like ninety three ninety four, And so the question will

999
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: be with him moving forward is one as he gets

1000
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: older and as he gets stronger, is that going to

1001
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: translate to greater velo because he is only like six

1002
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: feet one inches, whereas eater, I think is sixty four,

1003
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: Cabrera sixty five, Like they're just bigger. And when we

1004
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: talk about the ideal sort of biomechanical build, you know,

1005
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: Meyer will take the bronze out of those three. But

1006
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 2: his floor is probably the highest because I think today

1007
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: you could put him in the bullpen and say, all right, Max,

1008
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: like you just have to worry about two pitches fastball, slider.

1009
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 2: The slider's already great and the fastball, now that wasn't

1010
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: ninety three is the starter? Well, you only have to

1011
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: worry about going an inning, so you go ninety five

1012
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: ninety six. So you're playing with house money with a

1013
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: guy like Meyer, Well, you don't have to worry about like, oh,

1014
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: is this guy going to be a bust? Because like

1015
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: what you and I explained this in the pod yesterday

1016
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: and my dad taught me this because he was a

1017
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: former general manager. When it's like when you're looking, especially

1018
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: especially at first round picks, all you ever want is

1019
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: for them to be a contributor in the major leagues.

1020
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if they're an every day all star,

1021
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: even if it's a first overall pick a one to one, Like,

1022
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: you do not need a generational talent. What you need

1023
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: is good scouting, good development. So that way, every year,

1024
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: as you lose a guy, you can bring in another

1025
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: guy and not feel like you're taking a step back.

1026
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: And the thing is, if you do that, you're gonna

1027
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 2: accidentally run into a guy who is an All star,

1028
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: who is a generational talent, and that's how you build. Honestly,

1029
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: what the Dodgers have been doing. I know they splash

1030
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: the cash quite a bit, but like I think, I

1031
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: mentioned Dustin May and then you can talk about like

1032
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: Gavin Lux. They're not all stars, they're not the face

1033
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 2: of the franchise, but they're young players who have proven

1034
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: themselves in the minor leagues and they're ready to go

1035
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: the moment they get there. They're on these postseason rosters,

1036
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: and I think right now with the Marlins, what you're

1037
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: seeing is like as guys get injured, especially position players

1038
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: and god dude, the starting pitching at times, it's like

1039
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 2: so frustrating. You're seeing that drop off in replacement players

1040
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: coming in and they can't sustain that. So I get excited,

1041
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: like you guys, because I think today they're like eight

1042
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: games back, and it's like, would any of us be

1043
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: surprised if they rattle off a month where they win

1044
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: like I don't know sixteen of their next twenty two No,

1045
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: But like, at the same time, we see performances sometimes

1046
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: from Pittsburgh and Colorado when we're like, why is this

1047
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 2: team so freaking inconsistent? And I think part of it

1048
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: is because guys are injured. Guys are constantly coming in

1049
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: and out of the lineup, whether it's a Dev's or

1050
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: a Diaz or now Sanchez. Like you want those guys

1051
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: to come in and hopefully stay, but when you constantly

1052
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: having to swap pieces around to make it work, like

1053
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to be consistent. And I don't blame

1054
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: Maddingly or anyone like that. You got to play the

1055
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: cards you're dealt. It's just, certainly from a fans perspective,

1056
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, it could be frustrating when when the team

1057
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: you feel likes underperforming.

1058
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: I want to ask you another question about Max because

1059
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: I find him a very interesting person. When we interviewed

1060
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: him in spring. He doesn't watch baseball really, so he

1061
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: didn't really have like a comparison for me. But he

1062
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: seems like more of a hockey guy than a baseball guy.

1063
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 3: But it just works. What about him just works. Is

1064
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 3: it just the natural gift that he has? And then

1065
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: also his hair and the whole mullet Thursday thing? How

1066
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 3: awesome has that been? Watching that?

1067
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so the mullet thing very quickly is awesome. I

1068
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: don't know if he's actually gonna do it. If he doesn't,

1069
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm calling him soft. But we will be prepared with

1070
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: shears to give him a full on pea cole and

1071
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: mullet should he want one. And the unis are cool,

1072
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: and the atmosphere is awesome and all that stuff like

1073
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: that what makes it work. The thing that I think

1074
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: about with the hockey attitude is, to me, hockey players

1075
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: are like the most fearless athletes in sport. Like I mean,

1076
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: they're literally totally fine saying, take out my front row

1077
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: of teeth and then like just make sure I can

1078
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: get back out for my next period, Like that's that's baddie, dude,

1079
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: Whereas like our guys, not our guys, but I mean,

1080
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: like baseball players will be like, I don't know, like

1081
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: that pitch kind of hurt. I think I gotta come

1082
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: out of the game, you know what I mean. Like

1083
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: it's like that's the difference between the two, and so

1084
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: for him, it's like he is the most feisty, competitive

1085
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: m effort on the mound, Like he doesn't want to

1086
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 2: be bothered when it's his day to pitch. Like most guys,

1087
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 2: he is not happy when it is not going well.

1088
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 2: He is someone that wants to win. He wants to dominate.

1089
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: He wants to make the other guy who's at the

1090
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 2: plate quit when the AB's over, like I hate playing

1091
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 2: against this guy. I'm done with baseball, and when it's

1092
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: not going right for him. What I can't stand as

1093
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: a fan and is someone who's watched a lot of

1094
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: like a lot of minor league baseball, is guys basically

1095
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 2: just quit where it's like I don't have today, you know.

1096
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: And you'll see it more with hitters, like they'll be

1097
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: in a bad stretch and you just watch these at

1098
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: bats like okay, you know what, Like there was no plan,

1099
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: there was no approach, there was no fight in you.

1100
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: You just rolled over. And I certainly can't stand it

1101
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: with starting pictures because that means we're gonna have close

1102
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: to a three and a half hour game. But with Meyer,

1103
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 2: like he just had a career high seven walks, it

1104
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 2: was not good with the fastball. It was the second

1105
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: day in a row where that command just was not there,

1106
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 2: and for the second consecutive start he didn't allow a run.

1107
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 2: Like he just grinds man when he doesn't have it,

1108
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: he just competes. And if you want to give him

1109
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,479
Speaker 2: a Surezer comparison, that's the part where I would point

1110
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: to it. It's the same thing with Kershaw. Those guys

1111
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: have days where it's like they just don't have their

1112
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: stuff and they are just gonna bust their ass and

1113
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: give you seven shutout. They will just find a way,

1114
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: and so he won't feel sorry for himself. He won't

1115
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: be like, gosh, it's so unfair. It's the weather or

1116
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: they this plays, this park sucks, Like he doesn't care

1117
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: about that. He just wants to beat you and he

1118
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: wants to do his very best because he thinks he

1119
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: should be in the big leagues. And quite frankly, like

1120
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: this is a waste of time, not in a negative way,

1121
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: that's just how much he believes in himself. And like, dude,

1122
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: if you don't have that from your pitcher, you're kind

1123
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: of done before you even get started. So like that's

1124
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 2: another intangible that's like, yeah, I can see why teams

1125
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: should be high on him. And that's why my floor

1126
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: for him is like ten year big leaguer, Like he

1127
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: just is where he will be in the big leagues.

1128
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll find out, but you know, mark

1129
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 2: it down now.

1130
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: Maybe it's one of the top prospects he already covered,

1131
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: or maybe it's could be anybody on the roster. But

1132
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm curious now that obviously calling the games, but now

1133
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: that you've actually spent time around the players as well,

1134
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: does anybody stick out in terms of their leadership qualities? Guys,

1135
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: whether it's on the field or something away from it

1136
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: that it's hard for us to gauge that even watching

1137
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: the games. I'm curious, what if anybody sticks out to

1138
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: you in that regard, If somebody who's as you've gone

1139
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: to know them a little bit, have uh really impressed

1140
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: you with how they interact with teammates or just who

1141
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: they are in general, any of that intangible stuff that

1142
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: sticks out to you.

1143
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I want to be careful with

1144
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: this answer because I think we have a tendency to

1145
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: be black or white. So if I say something like

1146
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: leadership doesn't really matter here, I don't want you to

1147
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: interpret that as if I'm saying like, oh, nobody cares

1148
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: at all, Right, It's just it. You know, it's the wild,

1149
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: wild West down there. I just think that like, once

1150
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: you get to double A, you are the captain of

1151
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: your own ship. Like you have to be responsible for

1152
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: your attitude and your effort, like are you gonna are

1153
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: you gonna show up on time for your lift? Are

1154
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: you gonna do the things that you're supposed to do?

1155
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: Because in the big leagues, like nobody goes around and

1156
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: like Shepherd's the players and tells them what to do.

1157
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 2: So there isn't somebody like a captain of the team.

1158
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: But the thing that I have noticed is that this

1159
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: is quickly becoming one of my favorite groups because quite frankly,

1160
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: like everybody gets along and seems to be happy with

1161
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: other people being successful. You know. I've had other affiliates

1162
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: in the past where like there's some divas on the

1163
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: team that like you weren't you weren't too upset to

1164
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: see him go, Like it's just it is what it is,

1165
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 2: And there's nobody on this team where it's like, oh man,

1166
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 2: I can't stand that guy, Like he sucks, you know,

1167
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: Like I hope he gets shelled or I hope he

1168
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: goes over four. But there isn't anybody They like playing

1169
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: with each other. They have been so respectful and helpful,

1170
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: especially when we started the year and we still had

1171
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: the health and safety protocols. You know, I had the

1172
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: chance to talk to guys to do interviews. They could

1173
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: have completely shut me out, but you know, I've loved

1174
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: working with them. And it goes back to what I

1175
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: said before. It's another group of players that I get

1176
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: really invested in and get excited when they do well

1177
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: because I want them to reach the major League and

1178
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: hopefully bump into them down the road. Maybe I'll be

1179
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: calling a big League game in you know, five six

1180
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: years and be like, hey, man, remember you in Double A?

1181
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: You know those were the good old days.

1182
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: Ethan, You got anything else for Chris, because I on

1183
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: a related note, I have something.

1184
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, go go ahead with that with the related yeah.

1185
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: Well yeah, well, Chris, I mean one way you get

1186
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: up the chain yourself is obviously putting together a tape

1187
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: of all these great calls you've made, and you've had

1188
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity to make some great calls ready this year.

1189
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: You referenced a couple of plays already earlier in the pot,

1190
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: and we're going to kind of insert them into this

1191
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: episode so that people that aren't aware can hear you

1192
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: at work and hearing what you do best, whether it's

1193
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: a walk off win, or whether it's just a crazy

1194
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: play or whether it was a dysfunctional situation where you

1195
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: had to improv. What are the individual like calls that

1196
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: you've made that still jump out at you, whether it's

1197
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: patting yourself on the back and saying you did a

1198
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: great job, or just a crazy moment for you to

1199
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: experience at the ballpark so far this year, O.

1200
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Man. Well, first of all, no broadcaster

1201
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: who's worth two cents ever enjoys listening to their own

1202
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: tape because it's just awful. So it's like, I'll listen

1203
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: to a call and it's like a walk off home run, right,

1204
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: and to most people to sound normal, to me, it'll

1205
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: be like just absolutely hate it. So but the good

1206
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: calls are the ones where the crowd matches your intensity

1207
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: and you feel like you get that build, that crescendo

1208
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: going up, and that's always nice. Or when when you

1209
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 2: can see the play sort of happening in front of

1210
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: you because like you do in baseball in particular, like

1211
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: you want to have a plan of like what happens

1212
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: if you know the ball sit here, or this happens,

1213
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: or a guy drops it, Like you don't want to

1214
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 2: prescript out what you want to say, but like there's

1215
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: definitely been a couple of times where you know, it'll

1216
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: be the top of an inning, We're at home and

1217
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: there's two guys on base, and I forget to look

1218
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: and see who's where on the basis for them because

1219
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: I don't memorize all their players, And then there'll be

1220
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: a gap shot and I'll be like, Okay, so and

1221
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: so is being waved around third, but I forget his name,

1222
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh f Like I gotta get my

1223
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: card out and find his name. By that point, he's

1224
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: already scored. I'm just like, oh my god, the wheels

1225
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: are falling off his play, like that sort of thing.

1226
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: There's a couple of calls in this series because of

1227
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: the wind, Like Bladet's was a freaking bomb and then

1228
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: it turned into a flyout and I was like, well,

1229
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 2: this is dumb. Like I know, you guys think that

1230
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: I just missed it, but like I'm telling you that

1231
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: was a home run, and like it just on any

1232
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: other day in any other place, you know it would

1233
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 2: have been gone. Here's jj bldet. There's a swing and

1234
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: a shot out towards deep right, going back Cardenas and

1235
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: he'll make the catch on the warning track for the

1236
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: second out of the inning. Oh Blu Day picked the

1237
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: wrong day to send one high and deep to right

1238
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: because the wind just absolutely took the bite out of

1239
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: what would have certainly been his sixth home run of

1240
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 2: the season. You could see cart deenis racing back to

1241
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: the right field wall if you're watching on Black TV,

1242
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: and then had to come in a couple of steps.

1243
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it's not because he got it

1244
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: off the end of the bat. It's just because of

1245
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: the gusty conditions here at Blue Wahou Stadium. I was

1246
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: really excited for what would have been the no hitter.

1247
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: Was I was getting nervous for that, especially once we

1248
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: got late in the eighth inning. And I probably needed

1249
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: that because I if I went back and listened to

1250
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: that tape, and I haven't had the chance to do so,

1251
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: it probably wasn't my best stuff because I was nervous

1252
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 2: and I was trying so hard, and you know, I've

1253
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 2: never really been in a position like that. I did

1254
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: have the chance to call a perfect game, but I

1255
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: was a number two. And the guy I was with

1256
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: is now the radio broadcaster for the Cincinnati Reds, and

1257
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be one of the best radio

1258
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 2: guys to do it when he's done, you know, thirty

1259
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: forty years from now, all I will say about my calls,

1260
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: which is a super non specific answer that you probably

1261
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: weren't hoping for, was I at heart am just a

1262
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 2: kid who likes making people laugh, who wants people to

1263
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: have a good time, who wants you to enjoy the game.

1264
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: I love baseball. I've grown up with it. I love

1265
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: that I'm learning more and more about it. Like I

1266
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: imagine this is what it's for people who like to

1267
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: play chess all the time, because it is such an

1268
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: intricate game. There's so many different moving parts. You Ethan,

1269
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: I can tell you like you already have such a

1270
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: great understanding of some of the more advanced analytics that

1271
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: tell us more about what players are doing. I want

1272
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: to be able to get pieces of that and then

1273
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 2: tie it into a narrative where it's like we're talking

1274
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: about someone like Jeff Lindgren and how he made one

1275
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: adjustment in college where instead of pitching on the left

1276
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: side of the rubber, he now moves on the right

1277
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: side of the rubber and he watches era like dropping

1278
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: half and those little nuggets and things like that. And

1279
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: if I can speak with enthusiasm and with just genuine joy,

1280
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: like that will be enough for people to be like, man,

1281
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 2: this is fun, and that's what baseball broadcast should be.

1282
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: It kind of drives me crazy when I'm driving and

1283
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: I'm listening on the radio and like six different teams

1284
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: all sound the same, and I'm just getting beat to

1285
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 2: death by numbers and splits and what a guy's doing

1286
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: on the road. Like, yeah, if you're writing about it

1287
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: and you're trying to make decisions, that stuff's important, But like,

1288
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: if you want to enjoy the game, like, I'm not

1289
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: going to tell you what a guy's hitting with runners

1290
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: in scoring position in two outs when there's nobody on base,

1291
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: Like I'd rather tell you about, like what the guys

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: were doing on the bus ride back, although some of

1293
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: that is confidential, but now it's nothing bad, mostly just

1294
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: card games. But you know, or just like the stories,

1295
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: the things you pick up from roving instructors. So if

1296
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: I can get better at storytelling, because that's an area

1297
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: of my game I think it's a little weak. I

1298
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 2: think that I'll be in a position to maybe you know,

1299
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: live out my dreams. And if it doesn't happen, dude,

1300
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: getting to double A and working with these guys and

1301
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: doing these podcasts like it's not a bad life as well.

1302
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: So I'm pretty fortunate in that regard.

1303
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you that I have wanted, like part

1304
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 3: of my goal has always been play by play some

1305
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: in there. I would love to do play by play eventually,

1306
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: And so growing up I always kind of admired, you know,

1307
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 3: broadcasters everywhere, and I always kind of liked baseball better

1308
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: on the radio. There's just something about baseball on the radio.

1309
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: So for you you do both, is it that same way?

1310
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: Is there just something about doing it on the radio.

1311
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 2: It's way more satisfying in my opinion to have a

1312
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 2: great radio broadcast from start to finish, because there's so

1313
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: many different elements that go into play. And look, there

1314
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 2: are broadcasters that have much more difficult setups than I do,

1315
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: where they are responsible for a lot more you know,

1316
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: we have an unbelievable team with Daniel Vann who's in charge,

1317
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: and he's cutting highlights and he's setting stuff out. So

1318
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 2: all these clips that you guys want like that is

1319
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: that is his baby, right and he is so good

1320
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: at all that. And we just brought in Katie Florio

1321
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: out of Clemson because quite frankly, I saw some of

1322
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: her tape when she was doing work in the Cape

1323
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 2: and like, I mean, I I don't like to throw

1324
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: out come right and things like that, but she said

1325
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 2: that like she wants to do, you know, network sideline reporting,

1326
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: and I think her floor at the minimum is a

1327
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: regional sports sideline reporter, whether it's you know, Bally Sports

1328
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: with Atlanta or Chicago or whatever. Like, I think she

1329
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: has the ability to do that. She gives us a

1330
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: whole another level of dynamicism with our broadcast, and once

1331
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: the restrictions are completely lifted, you know, she'll be able

1332
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: to get those stories, get those interviews and things like

1333
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 2: that and add to the things that you guys are

1334
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: looking for as well that maybe give you insight to

1335
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: players and things like that. I will say to to

1336
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: you Ethan or you Eli, I mean, you want some

1337
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: play by play Brother three fifty one West Cedar Street.

1338
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: That's where Blue Wahoo Stadium is. You just come on

1339
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: up and I'll get you on the air for a

1340
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: couple of innings. I'll let you take the reins and

1341
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 2: I'll be your number two. That sounds fair.

1342
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 3: That would be a dream, an absolute dream. I go,

1343
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: I go to school at UF and Pensacol is a

1344
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 3: little bit of a hike, but a little bit. Yeah,

1345
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: that would be an absolute dream.

1346
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1347
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd be any good. I might

1348
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 3: freak out and shake my pants on the radio.

1349
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: But I got a bunch of people on Twitter who

1350
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 2: tell me I'm not very good, so it doesn't matter. Apparently,

1351
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: don't listen.

1352
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 3: To those guys. Don't those guys. We really do enjoy

1353
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 3: your stuff, I'm telling you. But they did. But they

1354
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: really hit one off the top of the scoreboard when

1355
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: that no, like he actually did I know that ball died,

1356
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 3: Like there was one that actually hit off the top

1357
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 3: of the scoreboard, right.

1358
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll call your shot and raise you another

1359
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: because he's hit one over the scoreboard. And you know

1360
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: the other person who hit one just flat out over

1361
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: the video board that I called was Lewin Diaz.

1362
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a stud.

1363
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: The only two guys who just.

1364
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: When he was with Minnesota there right, yeah, correct.

1365
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: And it was funny because we were playing Jacksonville when

1366
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: he got traded, and he was so he looked so

1367
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 2: sad just because he had to move from one clubhouse

1368
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 2: to the other and leave his friends. But I thought

1369
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 2: about it afterwards. One I thought Miami could the better

1370
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: end of that deal. And two he's gonna he's gonna

1371
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: be a king down there, like if he just pieces

1372
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: it together, Like that's the guy if you want a

1373
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: bat with Jazz Chisholm as well, where it's like we

1374
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: want to market this team with these young, exciting players,

1375
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: and like.

1376
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm very high on Leland, very high.

1377
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I don't know how to'll

1378
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 2: translate in the big leagues because I thought he hit

1379
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: a lot of different pitches well, and he had both

1380
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: pull side power and that left center power, like like

1381
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: when Ryan Howard was at his best and he could

1382
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: just drop one to like left center. That's what I

1383
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: always want from like power hitting lefties. But fuck man,

1384
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: like he would just hit some balls so far that

1385
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: was just like like he went out of Jacksonville before

1386
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 2: he got traded. That might have been the play where

1387
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, we gotta get him. So I

1388
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: don't know, but those dudes are nuts.

1389
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you said, you know, one thing missing

1390
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: from from your track record is that no winter and

1391
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: this is the year where he got a great shot

1392
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: to add to that. Whether it's the guys on the

1393
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: current team not that far away from looking forward to

1394
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: who gets promoted from Beloit and they got a couple

1395
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: really dominant arms there to give you a chance at that.

1396
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: But either way, so much talent in Pensacola this year.

1397
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: Chris Garagiola broadcasting for Pensacola Blue Woaho is so generous

1398
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: for this time and his honesty and his stories. We

1399
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: hope everybody who's appreciated this. I'm sure we'll catch up

1400
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: with you, Chris, either later in the year or after

1401
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: the year. It's what start of a ten year affiliation

1402
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: agreement between the Marlins and the Blue Wahoo's, although you're

1403
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: probably gonna move up the chain at some point during

1404
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: that tenure. We appreciate this so much.

1405
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: You jinxed it, bro, So I guess I'll see you

1406
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: in twenty thirty one.

1407
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, This was amazing, Chris, thank you so much.

1408
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, And seriously, I like, you know, we've

1409
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: been with the Reds and the Twins and then they

1410
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: care about their minor leagues, But I've never seen a

1411
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 2: group of writers, you guys and obviously Alex and Daniel

1412
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: and everyone else who cares so much about these prospects

1413
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,679
Speaker 2: and care about like our affiliate. So like the shoutout

1414
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: goes to you you because I'm sure it takes a

1415
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 2: lot of time, and you guys have other jobs as well,

1416
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 2: and you don't slacken that. So, like, you know, I

1417
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: tip my cap to you guys in any time you

1418
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: have questions or you want to do an interview or

1419
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: anything I can do to help, Like, all you got

1420
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 2: to do is reach out and ask.

1421
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: Okay, it's it's all we've had for a few years

1422
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 3: in Miami. I'll tell you that the minor league guys

1423
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 3: have been that. You know, it's been the thing, and uh,

1424
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 3: I mean I know you see it firsthand with just

1425
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: the talent that's coming through, so but we we appreciate it.

1426
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: Man.

1427
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 3: We'll definitely be in touch. And I'm sorry if I

1428
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,839
Speaker 3: ruined your career. If I end up cone.

1429
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: Tip give me good man. Well, we'll have fun doing it.

1430
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 3: That's no no, I'll talk to you soon there.

1431
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 2: Thank you.