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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man. Is that time

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Speaker 2: of week. My name is Bernie Frederickick. Come to your

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Speaker 2: We'll take you up to three am Pacific, six am Eastern,

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Speaker 2: And as usual, even though I've only got four hours,

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Speaker 3: Will try to get to it all.

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Speaker 2: Actually probably seven hours thanks to that load in the shorts.

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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin, who if.

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Speaker 2: You don't know by now, Lane Kiffin has a very

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Speaker 2: well documented history of abrupt departures, controversial departures from several

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Speaker 2: high profile coaching jobs. This may be the cherriot on

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Speaker 2: the cake. I mean, this is so stupid. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to it later. I'll gave you a chronology. He

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Speaker 2: obviously has a reputation for messy innings and he is

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Speaker 2: doing nothing right now to change that. But I digress.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get to what should have been the

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Speaker 2: biggest news of the day. And if you happen to

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Speaker 2: watch the Michigan Ohio State game today, it is the

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Speaker 2: greatest rivalry in all the sports.

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Speaker 3: It covered fourteen of him.

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Speaker 2: It started out as a land war in the eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 2: So think what you want, but as you know, I

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Speaker 2: look for turning points of the game. And with about

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Speaker 2: six minutes to go in the first quarter there I

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Speaker 2: don't know, Michigan was.

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Speaker 3: Leading six to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State's Bo Jackson took a little swing pass, turned

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Speaker 2: the corner and he pulled the old whipny n stanky

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Speaker 2: leg on Michigan's Jimmy Rolder and left his jock back

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Speaker 2: in Ipsilanti. And from that point forward, because I was

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Speaker 2: on with Aaron and Jason Icebeak, I said, look, Michigan

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Speaker 2: just will not be able to match Ohio.

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Speaker 3: State skill this week. And they didn't.

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Speaker 2: And anybody who thought Ohio State wasn't physical when now

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Speaker 2: you're being silly.

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Speaker 3: I'll have some have some stats for you here. But

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Collectively you all can say your apologies to Ryan Day now.

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Speaker 2: I mean I have never He's been beaten like a

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Speaker 2: rented mule basically since he took over for well, he

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Speaker 2: didn't take over what he followed Erwin Meyer, let's face it, okay,

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Speaker 2: And then heading into this season, even though he won

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Speaker 2: the national championship, certain people who want to give him

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Speaker 2: props because he didn't beat Michigan, which I get, I

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Speaker 2: get if you want to go.

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Speaker 3: Down that road.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, heading into this season, what if

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Speaker 2: I told you Ohio State lost eight.

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Speaker 3: Players to the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They lost their entire defensive line and both coordinators. But

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Speaker 2: since losing to Michigan last year on November thirtieth, Ryan

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Speaker 2: Day is now sixteen to zero, including wins over number

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Speaker 2: seven Tennessee, number one Texas, number three, Penn State, number.

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Speaker 3: Five Notre Dame. In the playoffs last year by.

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Speaker 2: Accumulative sixty points, they beat number one Oregon. Listen, this

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Speaker 2: is a team at Texas Texas week one who is

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Speaker 2: preseason number one And if you're scoring at home and

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Speaker 2: hope you are. Ryan Day is now two and four

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Speaker 2: versus Michigan. Won a national championship in his fifth year.

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Speaker 2: Remember Jimmy Harball, Jimmy Joseph Harrball. He actually started out

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Speaker 2: zero to five against Ohio State. But those same people

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Speaker 2: that would put Harball and deify him, and no doubt

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Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Fame coach, no argument. You want

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Speaker 2: to treat Ryan Day like a bastard child. Harball won

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Speaker 2: a Nation Natty in his eighth year. Day one in

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Speaker 2: his fifth So back to that physical part. Yeah, Ohio

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Speaker 2: State out gained Michigan today four hundred and nineteen yards

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Speaker 2: to one sixty three. Just the facts, man, you don't

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Speaker 2: like him, not my problem. Title possession forty minutes to.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen minutes and fifty nine seconds.

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Speaker 2: And I we're gonna get into the Brice one Underwood

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Speaker 2: thing a little bit later because I like price owners

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Speaker 2: under what.

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Speaker 3: I like the way he carries himself.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a lot of ability, but I

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Speaker 2: don't see twelve million bucks yet. And I saw a

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Speaker 2: lot of air and throws today that were late, not

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Speaker 2: on time, not on target, And maybe that's why Ohio

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Speaker 2: State had twenty two first downs to Michigan's nine. And

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, Michigan only had negative eight rushing yards in

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Speaker 2: the second half. But give Michigan credit. Their best defensive

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Speaker 2: a blockade as if Ohio State was going to try

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Speaker 2: to plant their flag. The classless move Michigan poll last year,

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Speaker 2: I could say this.

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Speaker 3: I lived there.

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Speaker 2: I lived in that area for seventeen years, covered that

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Speaker 2: My dear Martha went to the University of Michigan. It's

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Speaker 2: a dignified institution, a wonderful institution, but they didn't show

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Speaker 2: it Saturday. They made asses of themselves. Ryan Days told

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Speaker 2: Sherwan Moore alike. He says, we don't want a problem here.

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Speaker 2: You better get your players off the field. Look, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to plan a flag.

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Speaker 3: We I got to do that. My god, what the

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Speaker 3: hell was that about?

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Speaker 2: That tarnished a situation that he's really majestic. And that's

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Speaker 2: the oh House State Michigan football game. And I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you, be very afraid this Ohio State team's loader.

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Speaker 2: I know Michigan's young. They get to go to Columbus

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Speaker 2: last year. Next year, so we'll see what happens next year.

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Speaker 2: But for the first time in twenty ninety one days

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Speaker 2: since before the introduction of nil the transfer portal, well

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Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff, the Buckeyes again beat beat Michigan

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Speaker 2: who was very classy after the game. He said, look,

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Speaker 2: they came in here and took care of business. They

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Speaker 2: beat us every which way. But Tuesday, when the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage won everything and Ryan Dave finally gets the

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Speaker 2: monkey off his back, and let's not forget after that.

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Speaker 2: Before that, Ohio stated won like seven in a row,

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Speaker 2: and it always goes back and forth. It goes back

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Speaker 2: to eighteen ninety seven. So now Michigan's had their little run.

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Speaker 2: They celebrate a little bit too much, and Michigan's got

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Speaker 2: a talent disparity. We'll see what happens next year. But look,

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Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is, until coach Day can

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Speaker 2: reel off more victories against Michigan, he's record against the

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Speaker 2: that twenty twenty four meltdown is going to continue to circulate.

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Speaker 3: That's just the way the world works. People love to.

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Speaker 2: Dunk on each other, But the truth of the matter is,

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Speaker 2: you know, Ryan Day has the last laugh. Saturday, his

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Speaker 2: rebuilt offensive line completely dominated the line of scrimmage. They

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Speaker 2: the attack. Very much did bother Bryce Underwood enough to

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Speaker 2: hold the Wolverines. Bryce underwent through for sixty three yards. Now,

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, but David Warren, the starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: for twelve million, you get one more yard. Got I'm

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Speaker 2: starting to wonder is he being developed properly at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of progression from week one

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Speaker 2: I see with arch Manning, see what look at Julian

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Speaker 2: matter is for one day, Ohio State, you don't how

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Speaker 2: the scene works. It's they get to gloat for a year.

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Speaker 2: And I listen, I don't know who's going to beat them.

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Speaker 2: They may win back to back national champions championships.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: If they do that, that'd be twenty one wins in

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Speaker 2: a row. And that's the second big takeaway from Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Julian saying completely outplayed Bryce went Underwood in the matchup

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Speaker 3: Trust your rights.

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Speaker 2: They tell you a lot, you know, Will Howard. People

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Speaker 2: made fun of him last year, but he still has

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Speaker 2: a national championship. But all week, fans and media members

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Speaker 2: wondered if Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate would be available

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Speaker 2: after they didn't play against Wreckers. Smith had really looked

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Speaker 2: like himself for about three or four weeks. Tate hadn't

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Speaker 2: even played in the games since beating the Penn State

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Speaker 2: back on November first. But they were there Saturday, and

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Speaker 2: they showed up and showed out big time. And last

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Speaker 2: one of these people.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there was an early first of all, Michigan busts

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Speaker 2: You know, first play of the game, they'd taken ready

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Speaker 2: But they're up three to nothing. They're off first blood.

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Speaker 2: Then Julian's saying throws a pick, and you know you

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Speaker 2: were saying, here you go. It got I was one

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Speaker 2: and said, I'm not backing off. Ohio State's gonna come

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Speaker 2: back and roll them. Just wait till they get going,

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Speaker 2: and they did. Michigan tried, but they were overmatched badly.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State flipped the field and the next thing you know,

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Speaker 2: you know. And by the way, Jay Sean Barklem is

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Speaker 2: a good player. He got kicked out of the Mexico

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Speaker 2: butts a ref. He should link think his lucky stars.

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Speaker 2: He was not kicked out of the game, and I'm

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Speaker 3: You know. So at the end of the day, Ohio

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Speaker 2: Julian sand they don't really have to watch his uniform,

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Speaker 2: didn't get hurt. And give it up to Michigan kicker

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Speaker 2: Dominic Zavada. He's been struggling all year long, but he

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Speaker 2: had a very good game on Saturday. It's all Michigan

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Speaker 2: could muster. Were field goals, more field goals. When we're

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Speaker 2: ringing field goals to a touchdown fight doesn't usually work

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Speaker 2: out well. The other big takeaway, you know, Auburn didn't

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Speaker 2: beat Alabama. There's not a lot of other craziness. However,

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Speaker 2: if you would have told me Duke would play for

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Speaker 2: the ACC title next week. In football, even though the

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Speaker 2: record is seven to five. Well, does the ACC stand

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Speaker 2: for the All Chaos Conference? Are you kidding me? These

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Speaker 2: are the teams who won't play for the title next

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Speaker 2: week in Charlotte Louisville they're eight and four, Wake Forest

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Speaker 2: they're eight and four. SMU they're eight and four, Pitts

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Speaker 2: eight and four, Georgia Tech ninety three. And how about

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Speaker 2: the Miami Hurricanes ten and two. Hm, they won't play

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Speaker 2: for the conference title next week. It's Duke and Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Get your popcorn ready?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What more can you say? The regular season was a blur?

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know Oregon they look scary. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a fun playoff. They went into Washington, a tough environment,

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Speaker 2: and and I know Texas is going to try to

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Speaker 2: make their case now they're being penalized for their velost

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Speaker 2: to Florida. But you know what, if they had they

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Speaker 2: give them credit, they had the coyones to schedule at

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Speaker 2: Ohio State week one. Had they not done that, you know,

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Speaker 2: scheduled Roast Beef Tech, they'd be ten and two. Right,

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Speaker 2: But fifths and butts were candies and nuts. Well, you know,

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Speaker 2: what happens, then they're not going to take a three

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Speaker 3: How are you man?

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Speaker 9: Thanks, Bernie, how are you good?

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Speaker 3: Good to have you.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot to dive into before I do

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Speaker 2: want to preface it. Did you know that forty seven

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Speaker 3: But I digress.

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Speaker 9: Well, Philly can't stop the run and they couldn't get

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Speaker 9: Think about this. The last six quarters they have thoroughly

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Speaker 9: tough spot. Obviously the pressure of being the defending champion,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, man, And which is a nice segway

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Speaker 9: But you know, confidence in anything in life is so

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Speaker 9: vitally important that we're seeing it with the Cowboys. That

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Speaker 9: And I'm not going to sit there and discount Dallas

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Speaker 9: definitely did not have the Cowboys would in ten games,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't you know, that's the next game. I

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Speaker 3: I still think.

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Speaker 9: They got to get better defensively. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 9: fourth downs. Just can't happen. That was the problem in

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Speaker 9: you got to get lines, have to get better defensively.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Finally, the Ravens. I think you

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Speaker 3: I cannot.

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Speaker 2: I believe, hollywe you were dominated by the Bengals Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I don't tell you.

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Speaker 9: Bernie. I've met a small play this week on the

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Speaker 9: Bengals to win the division at twelve to one.

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 9: Well, they're three and one within the division. Yeah, we's

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 9: I was on the Jets a week ago Sunday plus fourteen.

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Speaker 9: I was fortunate to win that game. Could have gone

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Speaker 3: Very concerned.

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Speaker 2: And I will tell you that the Bengals really played

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Speaker 2: All right, let's look ahead to later on Sunday, Buffalo

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Speaker 2: visits Pittsburgh, both teams coming off losses. Josh Allen was

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Speaker 2: Do you like a side here?

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Speaker 9: I would take the home dog simply because Pittsburgh seems

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Speaker 9: to get things done. And this Buffalo team defensively's got

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Speaker 9: Allen and James Cook, they don't have much offense, right,

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Speaker 9: I mean taking about this Coleman was a healthy scratch.

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Speaker 9: I was like, I don't know, I guess you guys

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Speaker 9: I'm not trying to knock him, but it just doesn't

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Speaker 9: I'm a guy that college are pub favorites NFL. I'd

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're spot on with those comments. It feels like

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Speaker 2: interesting one. Minnesota visit Seattle. I'm calling it the Sam

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Speaker 2: It's not that big a deal. And that's just a

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Speaker 2: But if there was ever a time, my goodness, you

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Speaker 9: Your thoughts, well, first, of all, you know you mentioned

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Speaker 9: They blew that game last week in terms of a

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Speaker 9: I think it's gould be a real challenge as greatest

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Speaker 9: where I'm not looking to take Minnesota, even though Minnesota's

437
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Speaker 9: got some pretty good parts and pieces. Again, the quarterback

438
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Speaker 9: position has become so important in football. I got a

439
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Speaker 9: quick question for you. I don't know if you remember

440
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Speaker 9: Henry Ellenson from Marquette. He was a basketball player.

441
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Speaker 7: How Pistons took him?

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Speaker 9: I think the eighteens pick a few years ago. I

443
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Speaker 9: watched him at Marquette and I remember going, I'm going

444
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Speaker 9: to tell you there's few people that watch more college

445
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Speaker 9: basketball than I do, And I go, what the hell

446
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Speaker 9: do you see? This guy can't play. It was the

447
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Speaker 9: same thing with JJ McCarthy. I never saw anything a mission.

448
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Speaker 9: Go oh, that guy was the first round pick. You

449
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Speaker 9: know he wants to come to Ohio State. The Buckeyes

450
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Speaker 9: didn't recruit him, and I don't understand how when you

451
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Speaker 9: had Sam Darnold doing what he was doing last year

452
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Speaker 9: they decided to let him walk. But they say, hey,

453
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Speaker 9: listen to the handoff merchant. That looks like our guy.

454
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Speaker 9: When we have the best receiver in football.

455
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're paying for it now. Dearly, and you know

456
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Speaker 2: this is a team that was ready to win. By

457
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Speaker 2: the way, just top of my head, Tony Dungee was

458
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Speaker 2: a quarterback University of Minnesota and the f set in

459
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Speaker 2: Michigan in seventy seven. I'm just again, just another throwaway line.

460
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Speaker 2: But you know, Max Brosber for the Max Brosber fans.

461
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Speaker 2: Of course, if he goes you know what eleven for

462
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Speaker 2: twenty and throws a three yard pass behind the line

463
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Speaker 2: of scrimmage and they go sixty six yards, maybe they'll

464
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Speaker 2: give him Player the Century.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a shador joke.

466
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Speaker 2: Thee. The Browns are hosting the Niners Sunday. Schudor gets

467
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Speaker 2: his second start.

468
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Speaker 3: Now.

469
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Speaker 2: San Francisco is seven to two on the road against

470
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Speaker 2: NFC teams, or seven to two against NFC teams, but

471
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Speaker 2: interestingly enough, only one and two against AFC teams. The

472
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Speaker 2: Browns are gonna bring their sack exchange, right, they had

473
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Speaker 2: ten last week. Miles Garrett's gonna probably be all over

474
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Speaker 2: the place. But I want to talk about Shudor. Look,

475
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Speaker 2: I got no beef with the guy. I'm just not

476
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Speaker 2: anywhere near convince he's a major league quarterback. Do they

477
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Speaker 2: make the most of his opportunities last week. Does he

478
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Speaker 2: have the it factor? Do they play with different energy?

479
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Speaker 2: Come on, man, what are your thoughts on that game tomorrow?

480
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Speaker 2: Can sr Door do it back to back weeks.

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Speaker 8: I think it'll be a different thing.

482
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Speaker 9: I thought last week the number was wrong with the

483
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Speaker 9: Raiders being three and a half points favorites. I don't

484
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Speaker 9: know if the Raiders should be three and a half

485
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Speaker 9: point favorites against the team from the Mountain West Conference,

486
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Speaker 9: let alone an NFL team with that level of defense.

487
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Speaker 9: So for me, I'm not looking at lay numbers with

488
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Speaker 9: a team like that.

489
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Speaker 10: Now.

490
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Speaker 9: I played the undred thirty five and a half in Cleveland.

491
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Speaker 9: I think this number is going to come down. The

492
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Speaker 9: wind is going to be pretty strong if you're San Francisco.

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Speaker 9: It's funny you said that Berne. I was talking about

494
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Speaker 9: a friend of mine as a Niner fan. I said,

495
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Speaker 9: this figure game, we don't take unnecessary risk. You play

496
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Speaker 9: this in a way where you keep it conservative as necessary.

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Speaker 9: You know, today I was apoplectic when Brett Vennibles went

498
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Speaker 9: for it on fourth and one at the at their

499
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Speaker 9: own forties nine yard line against an LSU team that

500
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Speaker 9: couldn't move the ball and then they went up with

501
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Speaker 9: a pass interference and erupting the pass or on that drive,

502
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Speaker 9: an LSU ties up to three, and I'm like, just

503
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Speaker 9: pump the ball. In my opinion, Oklahoma's got the second

504
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Speaker 9: best defense in college football, and the same thing with

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Speaker 9: the Niners. In this game, you're playing against a quarterbacks

506
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Speaker 9: who he might be high on his own supply right now.

507
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Speaker 9: But the reality of it is they didn't do much

508
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 9: they got because their defense they were stuffing fortuitous situations.

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Speaker 9: I think you do the Niners. You don't take risks,

510
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 9: you play it safely. You're gonna be able to win

511
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Speaker 9: this game against the good defense, but you don't want

512
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Speaker 9: to give the Browns any short fields, any opportunities to

513
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Speaker 9: make play. I think the Niners win this game, but

514
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Speaker 9: this feels like a it's going to be a low

515
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Speaker 9: scoring game. I'm not getting involved in the number because

516
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Speaker 9: if the win becomes a factor, which I think it

517
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Speaker 9: could be, then you might wind up a little bit

518
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Speaker 9: of a scenario where it's a thirteen to nine type

519
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Speaker 9: of game or something like that. So they played under

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Speaker 9: thirty five and a half here, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I actually got it at thirty six on Thursday, So yeah,

522
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Speaker 2: there's going to be sideways wind and precipitation and the

523
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Speaker 2: whole schmier coming off the lake there in Cleveland. So

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Speaker 2: I think your assertion is correct. Speaking of another game

525
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Speaker 2: where I think points could be to premium, the Texans

526
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Speaker 2: have won three in a row.

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Speaker 3: They lead the NFL or the NF.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the entire NFL in total defense culture number

529
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Speaker 2: two ranked offense three hundred and eighty four yards.

530
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Speaker 3: Per game, but Daniel Jones has the issue with his foot.

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Speaker 2: An interesting game now, it'll be played in perfect conditions

532
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: in the Dome, but I can't really get my mind

533
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: around this one as well. You could have gotten the

534
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: Texas at four and a half a couple of days ago.

535
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Speaker 2: It's now down to Indianapolis minus three.

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Speaker 9: Year thoughts amall and numbers come down a little bit,

537
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Speaker 9: quite a bit. They're going through four and three and

538
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Speaker 9: a half and now down to three. I still like

539
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Speaker 9: the Texans here. I think their defense has been underappreciated.

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Speaker 9: It's kind of the brown A similar situation with the

541
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 9: Browns offense wasn't sustaining drive. I think they'll be able

542
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Speaker 9: to play well enough.

543
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Speaker 11: CJ.

544
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Speaker 9: Stroud comings back in the mix here, hopefully, he can

545
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Speaker 9: stay upright and play better, But I don't like this

546
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 9: cold defense. Offensively, we know what they can do, but

547
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Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be a challenge. Will Anderson has

548
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 9: been tremendous this year.

549
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Speaker 12: For this Texans team.

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Speaker 9: I like the Texas. I did a kind of making

551
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Speaker 9: a late surge. When you look around the AFC right now,

552
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Speaker 9: Bernie bry were to ask you, which team do you

553
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 9: believe is coming out of the AFC, I could not

554
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 9: definitively give you one team and stop at Bronco fans.

555
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 9: You guys know you were perpetrating the fraud, and so

556
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 9: do the Colt Yeah.

557
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: I couldn't give you one either, because when you throw

558
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: them into a bin, and I don't think Baltimore's gonna

559
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, they blew it and we'll see.

560
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 3: But you know, you get Buffalo.

561
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: Kansas City's not dead yet, but anyway, you get your

562
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: points taken. All right, one team that everybody's completely gog over.

563
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 11: But I.

564
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: Wouldn't look too far ahead. The NFL has a way

565
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: of looking a lot different than January. The Rams US

566
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: in Carolina another double digit favorite, this time around the road.

567
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: The Rams number one DVOA on offense and defense, double

568
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: digit road favorite. I sure as hell don't want to

569
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: lay the points ten and a half, but I don't

570
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: want to get in front of a speeding train either.

571
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: If you're Carolina, I thought they and I don't know

572
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: why they only give Rico Dodo the ball like twelve

573
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: times money night.

574
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Speaker 3: But I digress. Thoughts on Rams Carolina.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm definitely not putting the Rams here. I like

576
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 9: Carolina in ten and a half. I haven't played it yet,

577
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 9: but I would look at them, and if you're like me,

578
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 9: you do a lot of in game betting. You know,

579
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 9: maybe it's a situation you wait to take a play

580
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 9: in play where maybe you get a thirteen and a

581
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 9: half or a fourteen and a half. The Rams jump

582
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 9: out with an early touchdown. But I'm not laying this

583
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 9: number on the road. If anything, I'm taking Carolina in

584
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 9: the spot.

585
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: All right.

586
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Last game, a good old fashioned division rivalry the Raiders

587
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: is that the Chargers Chargers licking their wounds, took a

588
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: week off after that. You know Cane, you know Caning.

589
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: They got in Jacksonville the week before. They're laying nine

590
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Speaker 2: and a half. I just don't know how in the

591
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: hell you back the Raiders, but again, you lay over

592
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 2: a touchdown in a divisional game like that, you're asking

593
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: for it.

594
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: But I think the Raiders are just hapless.

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Speaker 9: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think it's one of the few

596
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 9: spots where you look at it. I think a divisional

597
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 9: poem is going to get blown up. Raiders are horrific.

598
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 9: I think We've got to a point in the season

599
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 9: where God's going to be potentially making business decisions.

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Speaker 12: And the other thing that helps.

601
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Speaker 9: I think the Chargers are somewhere in between that performance

602
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 9: against Jacksonville and to win in Brazil against the Chiefs.

603
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 9: I'm not sure which team they are, but there's somewhere.

604
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 11: In between, and I think they can really come out

605
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 11: and take care of business.

606
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 9: Some of that Sunday night game where they destroyed the

607
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 9: Steelers at home. I think you can see a result

608
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 9: similar to that in this one. This is where Jim

609
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 9: Harbaugh is really done well over his career, whether at

610
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 9: the collegiate level and the professional level. I think they

611
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 9: Chargers blow the Raiders out in this game. I know

612
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 9: it's a division game, but man, the Raiders can't stop anybody.

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00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 9: I think Justin Herbert has a good day This is

614
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 9: where the Justin Herbert's a very good quarterback conversational comes in.

615
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Speaker 9: Let's go to three hundred yards or two seventy and

616
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Speaker 9: you're like, oh, you had a great game, and then

617
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 9: you realize he played Bishop Gorman High School and so

618
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 9: that's the reason why you know, he put up some stats.

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Speaker 9: And that's basically what the Raiders are at this point

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Speaker 9: in time. So I just can't back the Raiders at

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Speaker 9: any point time, Bernie. They are a bad team. Look,

622
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Speaker 9: I know the Titans have less wins. In my opinion,

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Speaker 9: the Raiders are thirty two out of thirty two. Wheres

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Speaker 9: Michael Lombardi says the Radiers are the thirty third team.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with all that.

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Speaker 2: I'm slightly concerned about the Chargers offensive line, which is

627
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: a twenty car pile up. It's terrible. But again, I

628
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: don't know if the Raiders can take advantage of amall

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Speaker 2: great stuff was always tell the folks where they can

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Speaker 2: find your stuff.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I'm on with Rick Newhizel Everage Friday on Serious x

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Speaker 9: tim and then follow me on Twitter at a mall

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Speaker 9: Shaw one.

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Speaker 2: Let's get you back in January when the playoffs start.

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Speaker 2: This is really good stuff. Appreciate you man, Thanks Bernie.

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Speaker 3: We set up the topics in just a second.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie frattlework comedy line from the Las Vegas Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios, don't go away, or listening to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back

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Speaker 2: at the Bernie Fradtle Show, Fox Sports Radio, coming to

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Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: We are fourteen minutes away from the midnight hour.

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Speaker 2: Get those fingers ready eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six

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Speaker 2: six three six nine, eight, seven, seven, nine or nine

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Speaker 2: on Fox. From where I sit, it's gonna be midnight.

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Speaker 2: From where you sit, maybe the same, but figuratively it's

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Speaker 2: the minute. How you get the last word?

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Speaker 3: All right? So, if you watch the Michigan Ohose State

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Speaker 3: game today and.

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Speaker 2: You know you did, you saw two quarterbacks there are

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Speaker 2: both first year starters, Julian Sayan and Bryce Underwood. Now,

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Speaker 2: Sayan's on his way to maybe another national championship. Highly

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Speaker 2: efficient quarterback, nearly flawless season, leads the nation and completion

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Speaker 2: percentage very high in patching efficiency. He's very poised, a

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Speaker 2: very refined passer. Much for more refined passer. Excellent ball

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Speaker 2: placement and poise. He's having a much better year than

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Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Utterwards considered a more dynamic athlete. He has a

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Speaker 2: tremendous physical upside. I like the way he's carried himself,

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Speaker 2: has a strong arm, but his production way less consistent.

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Speaker 2: He's had some turnover issues, and I know he operates

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Speaker 2: in a run heavy offense in Michigan. And watch paid

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Speaker 2: twelve million for a quarterback. Side by side julians Anne's

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Speaker 2: completed the seventy nine percent of his passes, Bryce Underwood

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Speaker 2: about sixty two, maybe a little less. Bryce Underwood's throwing

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Speaker 2: for twenty one hundred yards Julian Saying over almost three thousand,

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Speaker 2: twenty seven touchdowns, four interceptions for Julian Saying, nine touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: five interceptions for Bryce Underwood. There's more, but you know

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Speaker 2: the long and the short of it is, Julian Saying

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Speaker 2: is considered the better quarterback, the more productive quarterback right now,

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Speaker 2: with a higher passer rating and better efficiency. But Bryce

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Speaker 2: Underwood very much noted for perhaps what might be a

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Speaker 2: higher athletic upside in arm talent. Here's your question, which

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Speaker 2: quarterback would you rather have, Julian Saying or Bryce Underwood

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Speaker 2: and why?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I like Charown Moore.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but if you never worked in ann Arbor and

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Speaker 2: you never lived there, then you're scratching your head as

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Speaker 2: to why people are their whispers about your own more

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Speaker 2: and its future.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna fire him. He's going to definitely be back

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 2: But he lost, you know, the three pivotal games this

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Speaker 2: year to USC to Oklahoma, and not Ohio State. And

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Speaker 2: that's just the way it works out there. If if

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Speaker 2: you don't get it, you think it's silly, Fine, you're

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Speaker 2: telling me you never lived there and never worked there.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious why Bryce Underwood has not been developed better,

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Speaker 2: come on, look at it, Okay, Not that it can't

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Speaker 2: change next year. So I want to know from the

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Speaker 2: folks eight seven, seven, nine to nine one Fox eight seven, seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: nine six six three sixty nine, who would you rather have?

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Speaker 3: You get?

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Speaker 2: Probably three more years it starts Julian sand or Bryce

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Speaker 2: Underwood the second one. This one's going to be uh,

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Speaker 2: I think pretty I'm looking forward to the calls of

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Speaker 2: this one more than any of them. And I'm going

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Speaker 2: to get to the chronology later.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin, as I said at the top of the show,

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Speaker 2: has a very well documented history of abrupt, very abrupt departures,

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Speaker 2: controversial departures, messi departures, and all from high profile coaching jobs.

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Speaker 2: He's got a reputation for messy innings. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: what happened later with the Raiders, Okay, Al Davis not

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Speaker 2: only fired him for cause in September twenty eight, twenty

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Speaker 2: games into his tenure, he called him a con man

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Speaker 2: and a professional liar.

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Speaker 3: Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Kiffin left Tennessee after just one season he was seven

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Speaker 2: and six in January twenty ten to go to USC

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Speaker 2: calling in a dream job, less than a month before

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Speaker 2: National signing Day. It caused all kinds of fan outrage,

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Speaker 2: student protests, Mattress being burned by the way. Kiffin was

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Speaker 2: famously fired five games into the twenty thirteen season at

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Speaker 2: USC on the airport tarmac, and even Nick Sabit let

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Speaker 2: him go, all right, we're going to get into more.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get into more of the specifics on

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Speaker 2: that later simple question. It looks like Lane Kiffin is

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Speaker 2: on his way to LA Is it gonna work? You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean by that. You've had three coaches

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Speaker 2: this millennium win national championships at LSU. Nick Sabman did it,

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Speaker 2: then Less Miles did it, and then at Ordren did

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Speaker 2: it within a couple of years after Orgeron and Miles

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Speaker 2: one that they were fired.

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Speaker 3: Good luck, Lane, They've already done it without you. Is

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Speaker 3: it going to work at LSU? And you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean by that? I want to hear is it

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Speaker 3: going to work? And why so?

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Speaker 2: Who would you rather have? Julian Sayan or Bryce Underwood.

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Speaker 2: By the way, and the Ohio State Game last year,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback for Michigan, Davis Warren threw for sixty two

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Speaker 2: yards on Saturday. Bryce under went through for sixty three

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Speaker 2: yards three point five yards per attempt.

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Speaker 3: You paid twelve million. I'm not picking on.

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Speaker 2: The kid, but hey, come on, now you get in

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Speaker 2: a return on your investment. And I like them, but

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Speaker 2: I expected more. Number two is Lane Kivin gonna work there?

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Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with that. The third one

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Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do is for a while, I figured,

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Speaker 2: what the hell, let's squeeze it in tonight. Let's talk

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Speaker 2: about our good old pal Tony Romo, who I think

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Speaker 2: most of us by at this point consider him to

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Speaker 2: be a very annoying broadcaster. He rambles, He's got kind

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Speaker 2: of this overly casual style he's full of excessive chatter,

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Speaker 2: and he's even been accused of bias toward the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I know about that or agree

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Speaker 3: with that or what.

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Speaker 2: But here, listen, here's what bugs me about Tony Romo,

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Speaker 2: who never won a damn thing in the NFL. And

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Speaker 2: the thing I remember most is when he bobbled a

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Speaker 2: snap in a playoff game in Seattle and costs Dallas

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Speaker 2: a playoff win. Tony Tony Romo put up some numbers

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Speaker 2: as as a cowboy quarterback, no doubt about it, and

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Speaker 2: he stepped aside for Dak Prescott in twenty sixteen in

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Speaker 2: a very classy manner. But what is it with these

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Speaker 2: fake play predictions. He's still I treated about it about

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Speaker 2: a month ago. They're gonna have fourth down, They're gonna way,

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna run to play, They're gonna draw. I'm

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Speaker 2: off side there. Next play, they run it up the middle.

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Speaker 2: He's got these fake play predictions. And there was sort

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Speaker 2: of this initial novelty of his quote play predictionability, but

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Speaker 2: I think it's completely worn off and it's not sustainable,

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Speaker 2: and it's inaccurate over half the time. Now he's very

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Speaker 2: much jumped to sharp. He was once praised for predicting plays,

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Speaker 2: but I think his commentary is now seen as vacuous,

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Speaker 2: and he very much lacks any kind of deep analysis

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Speaker 2: and more focused on silliness. Frankly, so, he's got this

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Speaker 2: overly casual rambling style. He's loose and goofy, and he

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Speaker 2: goes off on tangents, and I think it's very distracting.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's informative at all. Excessive chatter, perceived bias,

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Speaker 2: lack of deep analysis. He's been accused of making inappropriate comments.

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Speaker 2: What those are I don't know. But the main thing

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Speaker 2: that bugs me is he tries to give quarterbacks and

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Speaker 2: teams and offensive coordinators advice when he never won a

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Speaker 2: damn thing in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: I mean not a thing. He was annoying. So Tony Romo,

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Speaker 3: do you feel the same as me?

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Speaker 2: Or a Mile Wett? Do you like Tony Romeo? Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is fun, relax, man, We're all having this. This

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Speaker 2: is all fun here, all right. So number three, Tony Romo,

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Speaker 2: do you like him? Do you feel the same as me?

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Speaker 3: Give him? Take them? There you go.

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Speaker 2: So Topic number one Julian sand versus Bryce Underwood, Who

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Speaker 2: do you like more?

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Speaker 3: Who would you rather have? And the thoughts on your

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Speaker 3: own more?

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Speaker 2: And if his criticism is warranted? And then of course

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Speaker 2: number two Lane Kiffin. Will he have success at LSU?

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Speaker 2: Will he win a national championship there? It's national championship

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Speaker 2: or bust at LSU. If you don't know that by now,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna know it. And then finally, Tony Romo, I

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Speaker 2: think he's annoying as a broadcaster. You know where I'm

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Speaker 2: going with that. So those are our three topics eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine, eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Let's have some fun

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Speaker 2: with this night. Look forward to the comments and the

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Speaker 2: intelligent comments and the thoughtful comments. That's why we do

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. It's all about the callers. So the

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Speaker 2: midnight hours here, keep it locked. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle Show

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Speaker 3: keeps rolling right along, coming.

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Speaker 2: To your line for the Fox Sports Radio compound here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. The phone lines your Jim, please be patient,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get all of you, all of you. We've

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Speaker 2: got obviously three cool topics. Julian sand versus Bryce Underwood,

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Speaker 2: Saint one hundred and through for sixty three yards Saturday

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Speaker 2: Davis worn through for sixty two last year in the

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Speaker 2: Olim State game.

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Speaker 3: Who would you rather have? Who's got the better upside?

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Speaker 2: They're they're both gonna start three more years, and then

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Speaker 2: of course we've got the situation. Look Lane Kiffin, he

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Speaker 2: has a very well documented history of abrupt, controversial departures.

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Speaker 2: Is he gonna make it at LSU if he ends

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Speaker 2: up going there?

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Speaker 14: You know?

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Speaker 3: You know where we're going with that.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Tony Romo, the lovable goofball, I think who's become annoying,

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Speaker 2: overly casual, His fake you know, play picks predictions, they

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Speaker 2: don't work anymore.

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Speaker 3: Hat it with him? Yep?

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Speaker 2: Start for the midnight hour. All right, please be patient.

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Speaker 2: I'm want to get to all of you. I really

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Speaker 2: want to hear what you all got to here.

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Speaker 3: We start with Steve in Los Angeles. Steve lead us

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Speaker 3: off tonight. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 10: By Hey, Bernie, Okay, I want to talk about usc

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Speaker 10: which I'm totally sick of living the life of Riley.

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Speaker 10: I don't mean chester A Riley a ka, Babe Ruth,

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Speaker 10: I mean Lincoln Riley's.

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Speaker 3: He's no better than Clay Helton from what I can see.

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Speaker 10: Go ahead, Yeah, now, I was watching. I watched this

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Speaker 10: guy through his tenure at Oklahoma, and he's done nothing

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Speaker 10: different than what he had already done at Oklahoma. He

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Speaker 10: hasn't up his game at all. And the thing is

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Speaker 10: is that I'm an old guy. So I go back

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Speaker 10: to the Arab part Siegeon and and John McKay days

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Speaker 10: of the Irish and the Trojans, and the idea that

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Speaker 10: this guy can come in and have even an opinion

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Speaker 10: contra you know, to dismiss for whatever reason, the Irish

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Speaker 10: and USC rivalry, which after Ohio State and Michigan, and

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Speaker 10: I think that's the next biggest.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's just send it here. I let you went

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Speaker 2: off the off the grid there, my friend.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay, okay, I'll get to your three. Well,

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Speaker 3: well you gotta go quick now because you use used

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Speaker 3: one up.

870
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 10: Go all right, I'm in lockstep with you over Tony Romo.

871
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 10: Nothing more needs be said. I go for the fans, kid.

872
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 10: That seems kind of obvious at this point and as

873
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 10: far as Lane Kiffin, I'm a norm chow An organ guy,

874
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 10: so I'm not much for Lane Kiffin. I don't expect

875
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 10: him to win a national championship at Ellis.

876
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 8: So that's what I have to say about that.

877
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot. I appreciate it.

878
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: By the way, Lincoln Riley's all, what canceling the Yes

879
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: C Notre Dame game is ridiculous. I don't know what

880
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: the hell Colin Coward's talking about. Well, when I went out,

881
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: the game played in a Blizzard. It's never been played

882
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: in a Blizzard. It doesn't Blizzard in October. Okay, it

883
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: doesn't or November.

884
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't. Silly, we're being silly. Kyle and Vegas. Welcome

885
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: and Kyle, what's up?

886
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 15: Uncle Bernon, what's happening? I hope you en Georgias given

887
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 15: the whole career. There we go, There we go?

888
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

889
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, letter Man, we got all righty.

890
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 15: So I got you?

891
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 8: I got you.

892
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 15: First off, I don't really care about Ohio State Michigan.

893
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 15: You know, I'm a role Tie fan all day every day.

894
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 15: I'm glad I won today. Either Either quarterback is going

895
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 15: to be a watch to me.

896
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 11: I don't care.

897
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 15: Both both young men seem super talented. At the end

898
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 15: of the day, one of them is going to do

899
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 15: better than the other. We're always going to have a

900
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 15: breakdown analysis of which one is going to be one

901
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 15: UP or one A, one B coming out of their

902
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 15: respective draft class moving forward. Number two, should we.

903
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 8: Just change his name to Lame Kiffin?

904
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 15: Because that seems like at this point he's just really lame.

905
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 15: I'm tired of hearing about the guy. He's been in

906
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 15: the news in the media for the past fifteen years,

907
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 15: in fifteen twenty years.

908
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: Longer, when do you hear my chronological dissertation of every

909
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: one of his stops later on the show, Go ahead, Kyle.

910
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 8: Exactly exactly.

911
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 15: And lastly, mister Romo, and and I say this with

912
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 15: all due respect with mister Tom Brady as well, but gentlemen,

913
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 15: please take a lesson from mister Greg Olsen, who doesn't

914
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 15: insert all of his wacky, witty stories like I heard

915
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 15: Tom over the weekend saying we used to run a

916
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 15: play like that called.

917
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 11: Scat Boob and this is what we do, and that

918
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 11: used to run and I used to.

919
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 9: Run with player body and it's like, bro, nobody cares.

920
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 15: Tom. We watched your career, my guy, we watched it.

921
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 15: Tony Romo, we thank you with the Chicago Bears. I

922
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 15: gotta throw that in there really quick, but Chicago Bears,

923
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 15: thank you for all those picks that you give us

924
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 15: out of the many years.

925
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 8: We love you for that.

926
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 15: And and lastly, Bernie, you know, I gotta say this,

927
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 15: I wish you would have had one for the Bear.

928
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 15: Are the Bears that good? Or are the Eagles that soft?

929
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 8: Hey?

930
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Thanks Kyle. Something wrong in Philadelphia.

931
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: And by the way, I feel free to invote Greg Olsen.

932
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: When I look at Greg Olsen as a broadcaster, he's

933
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: like a shiny Bentley Rulls Royce gleaming in the sun

934
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: after being washed and waxed.

935
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Tony Romo, he's like a car pile up. That's how

936
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: I see it. Stephen, Kansas City, here we go. What

937
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: do you got, Steve?

938
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 12: Oh, Bernie Man, go with your gut.

939
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 8: Your gut is good.

940
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 12: Give me, give me more of that.

941
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 11: Uh.

942
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 12: You know that's one of my pet peeves. You know,

943
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 12: I don't even mind that Tony Romo has problems with

944
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 12: the Chiefs. It's just I'm gonna kind of come at

945
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 12: this from a different angle. I think the problem is

946
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 12: Tony Romo is just being himself and jim Nantz can't

947
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 12: jim Nance can't reel him in.

948
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: That's that's true, But you know what bothers me? And

949
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't think Brady's any good as a broadcaster too.

950
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: But he won Super Bowls. Okay, Tony never won anything,

951
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: and he's given guys advice go ahead, but I don't.

952
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna hate on the guy because he's he's

953
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 12: just revealing his own personality. But but jim Nants has

954
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 12: decided that he's gonna let this guy play a pool

955
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 12: and make him make him a pool and jim Nantz

956
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 12: is too good of a broadcaster to be doing that,

957
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 12: all right, and retirement, you're.

958
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: Fair about Romo. You'll just get him a hawp ass.

959
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: What about uhiff and and and what about the two quarterbacks?

960
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 3: Person?

961
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, I heard Lane's gonna talk to the team at

962
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 12: ten am tomorrow and Marty Smith said he's been texting

963
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 12: with Nick Saban and uh and Pete Carroll. You know,

964
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 12: Lane is kind of like your your dumb brother in

965
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 12: law who you know, sort of lucked into a lottery job.

966
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 12: Or something. And and this guy is never gonna he's

967
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 12: never gonna win anything at LSU. You just tell him,

968
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 12: you kind of be nice to him. You tell him

969
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 12: to take the bag and and and don't don't hurt

970
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 12: anybody that don't drive any any any big equipment or

971
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 12: while he's drunk or anything. The guy, the guy is

972
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 12: a weirdo. And you know, I hope he I hope

973
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 12: he does well. But you know, I don't think he's

974
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 12: gonna do anything. I know, I don't think he's going

975
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 12: to do anything.

976
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 10: He's just what he is.

977
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 12: He lucked, he lucked into a situation.

978
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: He's a he's a complete load in the shorts. This

979
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: couldn't have gone any mess year and he didn't have

980
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: to do that. Coaches all the time. But he's got

981
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: to turn it into the you know, ten alarm dumpster fire.

982
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 2: All right, Julian sand versus Bryce.

983
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: Underwood, did you have rather half for the next three years?

984
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 12: You know, I'm Underwood all days. It would have been fantastic.

985
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 12: It would have been fantastic to the Ohio state go down.

986
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 12: Hopefully Indiana will take care to take care of him

987
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 12: next week. I I'm I'm Michigan I'm Michigan all the way,

988
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 12: Michigan and the un if.

989
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Your paycheck, if your paycheck where it was was dependent

990
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: on uh ye, okay, I appreciate it.

991
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

992
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 12: I bet on the future. I'm betting that he's going

993
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 12: to be He's going to be the guy in the future.

994
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 12: And my my wild card is on this holidays, the

995
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 12: farewell to l Duncan going to Netflix and we're getting

996
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 12: rid of her on on the Mouse on the Mouth

997
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 12: Sports Network. So another another person that we sort of

998
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 12: like a Tony Romo as broadcast is leaving.

999
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: So I appreciated Steve. Thanks, uh Manuel, how you been there?

1000
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: Man Well Man well in Guardina, the legend known as

1001
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: man Well in Guardina, welcome in.

1002
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 11: Just won't and celebrate Bernie Man never been here. I

1003
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 11: hope you had a great Thanksgiving with your family, man.

1004
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: Sir, thank you. You hope you did too.

1005
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it was, it was beautiful. I don't know, Man,

1006
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 11: I come out a little different on Lane. I know

1007
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 11: he did make a mockery of it and make a

1008
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 11: mess of it, but isn't doubt what today's day in

1009
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 11: ages we're talking about guys at four different colleges at

1010
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 11: you know, seven year majors. It's all the way out

1011
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 11: the window, all of it. So okay, kudos for Lane, Man,

1012
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 11: and I do think he's gonna win.

1013
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 9: You know, Bernie.

1014
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 11: One thing about Lane the guys was silly good Man

1015
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 11: and he gets knocked down, he picks himself up. Bill

1016
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 11: and I don't know what that what are the last

1017
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 11: callers was saying about he's narrow and granted he hasn't

1018
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 11: really won a national championship on his own, but he

1019
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 11: was a big part of a few of those Alabama runs.

1020
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 11: And oh, miss man Ole Miss hasn't been squat other

1021
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 11: than what when Archie and Eli were there, all.

1022
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: The more reason for him to stay exactly, and interestingly enough,

1023
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: Saban got rid of him a week before the twenty

1024
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: seventeen National championship game. But listen, I like the variants

1025
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: of opinions. So you're like, hey, Lane's earned the right

1026
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: to do this. People want him. That's the way it works.

1027
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: Man supplying to Man, and he's one on one.

1028
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. What do you think about

1029
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: the other topics.

1030
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 11: I can't really speak on the Ohio State Michigan thing.

1031
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 11: I mean, typically as I think about, you know, football,

1032
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 11: other than Tom Brady, I can't really think of any

1033
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 11: OSU or Michigan quarterbacks that really lit up the NFL.

1034
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 11: So you know, I mean I would go Brewsters, millions,

1035
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 11: none of the above.

1036
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: Little John Candy reference. All right. Finally, do you like

1037
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: Tony rollmore or not? I think he's a clown.

1038
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 11: He is a clown. And you know another thing, it's

1039
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 11: the state of the industry, Bernie, I mean Kirk Galdi,

1040
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 11: Vin Scully, Keith Jackson, no more, you know, I mean

1041
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 11: all vern Lund Quiz these guys that were great, you know,

1042
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 11: and just black and white, you know, showing the game,

1043
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 11: knowing when to let the game breathe, you know, instead

1044
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 11: of like they're saying, inserting all of the crap, like

1045
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 11: nobody gives a damn about that game you played against

1046
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 11: Pittsburgh in twenty twelve, you know, like just a bunch

1047
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 11: of stuff. Man, Like, let the stuff on the field speak,

1048
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 11: do your research and get the fans what they want.

1049
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 11: An old school broadcast. But you know, hey, man, I'm

1050
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 11: the old man screaming at the clouds, right, Bernie, keep

1051
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 11: up the good work.

1052
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 15: Love you, my man.

1053
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: Good to hear from me. Man, Well, don't be a stranger.

1054
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 2: We go out to Colorado. We're joined by another Broncos fan.

1055
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back in.

1056
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: How are you?

1057
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 8: That's the good Bernie good Man. I'll tell you what

1058
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 8: you know something. I'm glad to hear your voice is

1059
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 8: doing excellent. We've been kind of plagued with the cold

1060
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 8: around here in the whole shot. Anyway, let's just jump

1061
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 8: into it. The first one, the tea quarterbacks. Yeah, can

1062
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 8: I reserve that spot for something else? I want to say? Yeah,

1063
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 8: go go ahead, dive in Kiffin. Oh good god, I'll

1064
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 8: let you get what you want. You know, I really

1065
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 8: question his loyalty over the years with you know this

1066
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 8: and that the other I'm going hmm, I mean, Excells

1067
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 8: knows great, but damn, I really question its loyalty as

1068
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 8: far as uh well, no, let's discuss that. And then

1069
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 8: I was gonna say something about Romo and no, no,

1070
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 8: I don't think he anyway fair enough. But anyway, Romo, No,

1071
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 8: I'd rather listen to Dave Logan on KOA Regional. He's

1072
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 8: a professional, he's a little bit of a homer, but no,

1073
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 8: I'd rather listen to him. It's unfortunate with the Simon

1074
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 8: Cass As far as the whole situation with the Okay,

1075
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 8: we're gonna have three seconds and blah blah blah. But anyway,

1076
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 8: what I'd love to say is, as a Colorado sports fan,

1077
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 8: professional teams, the Broncos, the Avalanche, the Nuggets. Wow, how sweet?

1078
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 8: How sweet?

1079
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree with all.

1080
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: I appreciate you checking in again tonight, Broncos fan. Always

1081
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: a pleasure. We go out to Phoenix. My man Daves,

1082
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: who I know is a Michigan man, and Dave, I'm

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00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: sure you've got some thoughts.

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Speaker 16: I do.

1085
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 17: Bernie. Actually, I have no real strong opinion on Tony Romo,

1086
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 17: so I'll go to the other two topics. I do

1087
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 17: have strong opinions, and as far as the two quarterbacks,

1088
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 17: saying in Underwood as of right now, you'd have to

1089
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 17: go with saying he's had a much better season, but

1090
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 17: he also has a much better surrounding supporting cast. So

1091
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 17: I would preserve judgment until we see what happened in

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00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 17: the next couple of years. But I would say this,

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00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 17: Michigan had a really easy schedule this year and they

1094
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 17: did not take advantage of it. The next two years

1095
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 17: they're going to have much much tougher schedules. And to

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00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 17: make my point, you know, Michigan has a nine to

1097
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 17: three record that looks okay. But who did they beat

1098
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 17: for their nine wins? I can answer that question.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the larger issue. Rather than do all that,

1100
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: they lost to Oklahoma and they didn't look good. They

1101
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: lost the USC and look good, olstall House, State didn't

1102
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: look good. And the thing about the supporting cast day

1103
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: which I would respectfully push back, I'm going to give

1104
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: you twelve million bucks. Feel free to elevate your supporting cast.

1105
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, why the hell doesn't Shorelan

1106
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: Moore let him do anything? They don't let him do anything.

1107
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of throws down field. You

1108
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: paid twelve million bucks for the guy.

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00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 17: That's a good point. And in fact, last year Michigan

1110
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 17: had much much less talent on offense than they this year.

1111
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 17: And yet they escape go to the offensive coordinator and

1112
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 17: fired him, and they brought in Chip Lindsay and they

1113
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 17: told us how much greater he was going to be

1114
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 17: and how he's going to be a fantastic difference maker.

1115
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 17: Well we didn't see much of a difference. A little

1116
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 17: bit of a difference, sure, but not a huge improvement.

1117
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 17: So I would say it's a disappointing season. They in

1118
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 17: two years, Sharon Moore has eight losses, could end up

1119
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 17: being nine. In the three previous years they were forty

1120
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 17: and three, culminating in the national title. So there's a

1121
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 17: lot of work to do and they're going to have

1122
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 17: to overcome a tough.

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Speaker 2: Stet that next year is going to be a very

1124
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: pivotal year. And I like Charon Moore, but look, you

1125
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 2: live there. I live there, I worked in that market.

1126
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: You can't explain it to people who don't get it.

1127
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: There's already whispers about Sharon Moore. Finally, real quickly, Lane.

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Speaker 18: Kiffen, Yes, well, Lane Kiffin.

1129
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 7: You can argue either way whether he should be allowed

1130
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 7: to coach Old Miss in the playoffs.

1131
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 17: I don't think they're going to.

1132
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 11: Let him coach.

1133
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 17: But interestingly, off to coach at Tulane and the coach

1134
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 17: at North Texas Core Leaving, are going to be allow

1135
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 17: to coach in their conference title games, and if they

1136
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 17: make the playoffs, they'll be coaching.

1137
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: In that and cour but but, but, but Glayne Kiffin's

1138
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: leaving for a conference rival, and he's gonna steal without

1139
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: damn team.

1140
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 11: So he got here.

1141
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 9: You're right, You're right, You're right.

1142
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: I don't mean to be short with you, Dave. I

1143
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 2: want to hear from you more often. I we got

1144
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: tons of phone lines. We've got a lot of stuff

1145
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 2: to get to. Tyler and Minnesota, Andrea Massachusetts, Poppy, Jimmy

1146
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: New Hampshire, Kendy in Alabama.

1147
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to all of you. I want to

1148
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: hear from all of you. Please be patient.

1149
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 7: Uh.

1150
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: We're often running with the men night hours, the callers

1151
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: that make it great. So hang right there because we're

1152
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: going to be resume quickly. I'm Bernie Frattle, coming to

1153
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: your life from Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1154
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

1155
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio.

1156
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,120
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1157
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,560
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1158
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,560
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1159
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:02,520
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1160
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show.

1161
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: That men at hour keeps rolling right along. We go

1162
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: out to Minnesota. We're joined by Tyler. Tyler, thanks for

1163
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: hanging on.

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00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 9: Welcome in, Hey, buddy, thanks for taking my call. The

1165
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 9: one thing that kind of annoys me with Lane Kiff

1166
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 9: and stuff is like he's saying he's going to a

1167
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 9: or not sec rival. Yes, but I've kind of got

1168
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 9: numbed to it over the years because one thing before

1169
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 9: Nil hit that these college coaches could ever they can.

1170
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 9: They can do whatever they want anyway. They could promise

1171
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 9: you something tonight and tomorrow they're going to Baylor.

1172
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: Okay, very true, but but this is over the top

1173
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: because he wants to coach the team. He's supposed to

1174
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: make a decision. Okay, you know where we're going with that.

1175
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: So if you're okay with it, if it's just all

1176
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: part of Christopher the milk.

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Speaker 9: Ahead, that annoys me. But the analogy I'd use is

1178
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 9: like you've got a girl you've been dating for a

1179
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 9: long time, you're going, you know, six seven years, you

1180
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 9: think she's your wife, all of a sudden, this better

1181
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 9: looking girl with a little more money, or.

1182
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 15: She just something that you think is a.

1183
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 10: You know enough.

1184
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 11: Here's the thing, Tyler hear it's probably about.

1185
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the deal.

1186
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: He's got an entire organization of people, one hundred players

1187
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: on that roster whose lives are at stake a coaching staff.

1188
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: So look, if he wants to leave, fine, people do

1189
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: it all the time. But he's it's another Jackassian way

1190
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: of doing it. What are your thoughts on the other

1191
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: two tops?

1192
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 9: It's horrible. I, like I said, I just got so

1193
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 9: numb to it with college coaches where I've seen so

1194
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 9: many of them on TV come out and say one day,

1195
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 9: I love this place more than anything in the world.

1196
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 9: I would do anything for these guys, and then next

1197
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 9: day they're gone. They signed the bigger deal, And I.

1198
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 11: Get that, But like this thing is, you know, this

1199
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 11: is a girl you could marry, you could.

1200
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 9: Stay there for a long time, make a great name.

1201
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 8: He's he has what we all get.

1202
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: We all get the rationale.

1203
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: They've already won three championships at LSU in the last

1204
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 2: twenty two years.

1205
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 3: He just another notch on the belt.

1206
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 2: He could stay at Mississippi and in a po statue,

1207
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: let's move on off off the jackass Kiffin.

1208
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 3: I've really I get it.

1209
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 2: You're you're you're just being rational and that everybody else

1210
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: is doing it, So why is he so bad?

1211
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 12: Fair?

1212
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to Tony Romo and or the situation.

1213
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: Who would you rather have Julian Saying or Bryce Underwood.

1214
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 9: I got still burned out watching the Underwood kid early

1215
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 9: in the year. I haven't paid much attention.

1216
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 19: To Michigan for the last few weeks because I.

1217
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 9: Got burnt out. I think he's young, he could do well,

1218
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 9: but I just didn't think he was processing anything.

1219
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Well, he's not. He's not, And that's part of the

1220
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's development or what.

1221
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 9: Well, it's football. If you don't have a quarterback that

1222
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 9: could either do both or one really good if you're both, Like,

1223
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 9: he's a good runner, but I just don't think you

1224
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 9: passed the ball. I don't think he win a college championship.

1225
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one dimensional.

1226
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: He's way far away from being at that plateau real quickly.

1227
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: Do you like Do you like Tony Romo?

1228
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 3: Yes or not? Yes or no?

1229
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not a Romo fan. Like way, when

1230
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 9: he started calling out the players doing whatever, I thought,

1231
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 9: all right, this guy's great, he's gonna be great. Well

1232
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 9: that's turned into.

1233
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 3: Being a rambling that's weren't off yet.

1234
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 9: Whatever. But the one thing I want to ask you

1235
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 9: is what is your opinion on Chris Collins Earth, Because

1236
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 9: he's like Romo annoys me, but Collins worst When he's

1237
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 9: calling out everybody a six wide receiver and the team

1238
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 9: catches a you know, slot route, he calls him the

1239
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 9: best player, and he's never seen somebody so good in

1240
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 9: his life, and like it almost gets sickening where everybody,

1241
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 9: everybody has the next play in the game is just

1242
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 9: the greatest person or the greatest player.

1243
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 11: He's used to do that.

1244
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks a lot, Tyler, don't be a stranger. I

1245
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: think you're a first time look. I like collins Worth

1246
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: a lot. He's a lawyer. I had a successful NFL cark.

1247
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: He's incredibly popular among his peers and broadcasters. A little

1248
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: bit of history onics there, but I think by and large, uh,

1249
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 2: he's his his zeitgeist, his intelligence, his ability to analyze

1250
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 2: a billion times better than Tony Romo will ever be

1251
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: Andre in Massachusetts?

1252
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 3: Where you have been? Man?

1253
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 14: How are you doing?

1254
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 12: Ernie?

1255
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 11: Good to be with you.

1256
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 20: It has been too long, This dreaded day shift has

1257
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 20: has gotten in as a way of my passion in

1258
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 20: reaching out.

1259
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 11: So we got to get that in order.

1260
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 18: We got to line up the work.

1261
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 20: Life down look in terms of lane Cifsan what does

1262
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 20: Dennis Green say they are who we thought they were.

1263
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 10: Is that what he said?

1264
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 20: Well, Lane Kiffin is who we thought he was. He's

1265
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 20: always been this guy. Going back to him, he was

1266
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 20: at Tennessee. He was at Tennessee for a quick you know,

1267
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 20: two shakes of a lamb tail. What get you got

1268
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 20: a little bit of barbecue, you know, some of that

1269
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 20: good home fo home soul food, good cooking. Next thing,

1270
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 20: you know, usc come.

1271
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Speaker 3: Clost team games.

1272
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a litany of his chronology later in

1273
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: the show.

1274
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 10: Yes, so he's always been this guy.

1275
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 20: I'm not sure why the folks you know down you know,

1276
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 20: old Mississippi, I'm not sure why they're like thunderstruck or perplexed.

1277
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: Well, because because they're they're they're about to make the playoff,

1278
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: which you've never done, and he wants to leave for.

1279
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: A rival, a conference rival.

1280
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 2: This this brings you to new level launderie, a new

1281
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: level of jack assery, I think.

1282
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 20: Indeed, indeed, but if you're if you're you know, with

1283
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 20: somebody that has that Diane Diana Ross.

1284
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 9: Level divus in them.

1285
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 20: Okay, we're not just talking about one of the supremes.

1286
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 20: We're talking about the supreme of the supreme and he's

1287
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 20: always been like that. So yes, I do to your point, Bernie,

1288
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 20: it does hurt because you know you're you're on the

1289
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 20: precipice of doing something they haven't done before, and it's

1290
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 20: it's this great season and then now but we's pulling

1291
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 20: the rug out from under you, as you might have

1292
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 20: suspect that he might do the thing for me is

1293
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 20: and other calls have said it that they you know,

1294
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 20: and I'm not rationalizing it because you have a wild

1295
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 20: West with the nil and the transfer portal, and really

1296
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 20: College Athletics has just gone absolutely buck wild across the board.

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 20: That doesn't give Lane any any cover. But in terms

1298
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 20: of getting rid of him for the playoffs, even though

1299
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 20: I know it's frustrating, you might want to just keep

1300
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 20: you because he's he's the best coach that you have available,

1301
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 20: so I might keep him. So your point about what's

1302
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 20: going on the big game today Michigan and Ohio State,

1303
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 20: Ohio State kind of handling business and getting hot which

1304
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 20: quarterback I would prefer? I feel listen, this kid bright Underwood,

1305
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 20: twelve million dollar man. You know they gave up everything

1306
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 20: but the kitchen sink to get him for me, Michigan's

1307
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 20: missing a hardball, that's what they're missing, okay, and someone who.

1308
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 3: Can develop them. That is that where you're going with that,

1309
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: someone who can develop them, Okay, okay.

1310
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 20: Exactly, you know, and so they're not you know, it's

1311
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 20: you know, it took hardball some time. He was getting

1312
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 20: the break speed off of them by Ohio State for

1313
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 20: some years and then once he you know, found his

1314
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 20: niche and got in his group, he took them to

1315
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 20: a national championship and then he parachuted out to the NFL.

1316
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 20: So with Underwood, I just you know, Ryan Day, he's

1317
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 20: been there. You know, they have to get their new programs.

1318
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 20: Everybody's not carbum okay. So I think that's you know,

1319
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 20: I don't know if they want to panic or do whatever.

1320
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 3: Well, they had to. They had to know that going in.

1321
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:12,959
Speaker 3: They figured this kid was plug and play.

1322
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 2: And I think he's conquited himself well, but I have

1323
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: not seen an ascension towards his ceiling at all. In fact,

1324
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: in fact, I've seen a regression real quickly. Tony Romo

1325
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: andre yes or.

1326
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 20: No, yes for Tony Romo. But the thing for me

1327
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 20: with him is that everybody's not a broadcaster. Just because

1328
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 20: you're you can talk and doesn't mean you're a broadcaster.

1329
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 20: It doesn't mean you're a journalist. So the luster has

1330
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 20: worn off a little.

1331
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 11: Bit with him. You know what he came in, you know,

1332
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 11: with all of his trips.

1333
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 20: Not wow, it's new, it's amazing, it's innovative. But over

1334
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 20: time he doesn't. He doesn't have the core competency as

1335
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 20: somebody who's spent years and years. That's it's the same

1336
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 20: thing as when they give a head coach like JJ

1337
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 20: Reddick's doing well.

1338
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 10: But you know, every time you just give.

1339
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 20: Somebody a head coaching job with no background, know, and

1340
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 20: they get hot, could win a couple of games, but

1341
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 20: over time there's a regression to the me. That's my

1342
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 20: feeling on Room. I don't I don't have any animies

1343
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 20: towards him, towards him, but he's no, no, no, he's just.

1344
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 3: A fun loving gooseball. He's not my Yeah, he's not. Yeah,

1345
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: he's not my Jim.

1346
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: All right, thanks a lot, Andre, appreciate it as always.

1347
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: Hope to hear from me again, Poppy and san diego.

1348
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 19: Let her rip my man Berdie Well, you know the

1349
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 19: first one was that college I don't want to. I'll

1350
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 19: skip on that one. Uh you know, Ohio say is

1351
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 19: a bigger, best team and our number one. So that

1352
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 19: was a great rivalry game. So and onto the next one.

1353
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 19: What's the next one, Bernie.

1354
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 2: Well, do you believe Lane Kiffin is gonna make it

1355
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 2: at LSU and win or not?

1356
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 11: I don't know about that.

1357
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 19: All skins college chock. I'll let somebody else in college expert.

1358
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 19: I'll leave that for my rat. At the end, Bernie.

1359
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 19: And the third one it was about yeah.

1360
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: Do you like him or not? I think he's become

1361
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: a clown? Go ahead.

1362
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 11: So the thing I know about Tony Romo is there's Bernie.

1363
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1364
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 19: I'm surprised no caller than anyone says that when Tony

1365
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 19: Romo was dating Jessica Simpson. I just want to know,

1366
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 19: Bernie is is it Jessica Simpson.

1367
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 2: Or what I was like eighteen years ago? Remember before

1368
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: a playoff game, the week they had a buyer week

1369
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: and he went down to Cancun or something.

1370
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 3: All I remember.

1371
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: What I remember more than anything about Tony Romo is

1372
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: the fumbled, botched holding of the field goal against Seattle

1373
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Good night, Thank you for participating cowboys

1374
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 2: go home, Yeah, and go.

1375
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 11: Home, man, how about them cowboys?

1376
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 10: Right?

1377
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 19: And then what my round was going to be up?

1378
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 19: Bernie actually went to San Diego FC. They won the

1379
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 19: Western Conference finals a game, that's why my boys looked

1380
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 19: it out and we lost three to one against Vancouver.

1381
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 19: The better team won Circulosano did score a goal. That's

1382
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 19: why my boys a little bit alpo. I mean, I'm

1383
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 19: happy for the first year we made history better team

1384
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 19: in San Diego. And then Vancouver is going to be

1385
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 19: playing in the finals against Leon Messi on the MLS

1386
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 19: club and I'll be hopefully next week. You guys, could

1387
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 19: we could talk a little bout it or else I

1388
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 19: could talk about.

1389
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: It, but well you you I always open the you know,

1390
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: thirty seconds or a minute if someone's got around. I

1391
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: know you're a big soccer fan. Poppy always appreciates your enthusiasm.

1392
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: But I want to kind of.

1393
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 19: Keep it, yeah, real quick, quickly what tomorrow? I like

1394
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 19: to sayings and the Dolphins tune out by love minus

1395
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 19: five and a half.

1396
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 9: Or are you taking the Dolphins tomhow Bernie?

1397
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: Or actually I actually do like the Dolphins tomorrow? I

1398
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 3: do all right? Thank you?

1399
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: Bert all right, thanks, thanks Poppy. Seriously, I do Jimmy

1400
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: in New Hampshire. Welcome in, Jimmy. Is this your first time?

1401
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 21: No, No, I've called you for Bruce.

1402
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 3: My bad, My bad. I got a few holes in

1403
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: my game letter rip Jimmy.

1404
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 21: All right, listen, Lane Kippen. I'm not big college football guy,

1405
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 21: but let me tell you some of I believe uh

1406
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 21: that when you hire bad people, you gotta get bad

1407
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 21: results sooner or later. And this track record speaks for itself.

1408
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 21: So lsu, this program to me is been sketchy the

1409
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 21: last few years. So I think they deserve each other.

1410
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 21: And I don't have much heat. I leave it much

1411
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 21: sympathy for old Messina because they knew what they were

1412
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 21: getting with Playe Kippin. So I don't think there should

1413
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 21: be a big shock that there's there's a drama drama

1414
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 21: coming up here, and now there's talk about him poaching

1415
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 21: personnel and all that stuff. So they all get what

1416
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 21: they deserve it with this guy, you know what I'm saying.

1417
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: You know, so you're not wrong, You're not wrong. It's

1418
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: just just this one even feels over the top for him.

1419
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: Thoughts on do who would you rather have Julian saying,

1420
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 2: or would you rather have Pryce Underwood.

1421
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 21: I'm gonna have to take a pass to that for you.

1422
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: How about how about the legendary Tony Romo considered an

1423
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: annoying broadcaster now his goofy style on and on play

1424
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 2: predictions that falls short.

1425
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 21: This is what I called you about, Britty about Tony Romo.

1426
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 21: I just care about the guy one way the other.

1427
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 15: Uh.

1428
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 21: And whether you like the guy announcing or not, it's

1429
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 21: like going to a game and worry about the umpires.

1430
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 21: I don't really care. However, I get to take a

1431
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 21: little issue with you. A number of times he said

1432
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 21: the guy never won a damn thing, so he doesn't

1433
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 21: really have a right to his opinion or whatever.

1434
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 2: And oh no, he's got a right to his opinion,

1435
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: but it's less credible when you've never won. Maybe he

1436
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: won one playoff game, he didn't win like you're paid

1437
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: to win as a quarterback in the NFL. And that's

1438
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: why I take umbrage Jimmy, because he's giving advice at

1439
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: what the next place should have been or what I

1440
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 2: would have done there, and well you didn't do it

1441
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: when you were playing, So anyway, you got the last

1442
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 2: word Jimmy.

1443
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 21: Well, all I'm saying is from a guy you can

1444
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 21: only get into a game with a ticket. There's many

1445
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,440
Speaker 21: people that broadcasted that haven't.

1446
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 11: Won a thing.

1447
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 21: Dan Founts, Dan Marino for example, and all that.

1448
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 7: So I guess said that's all true.

1449
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: But those guys are an annoying goofballs. Go go ahead, Jimmy,

1450
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm the same.

1451
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 21: Like I said, he's on my play breathe. I don't

1452
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 21: care what was the other I'm the say. Some people

1453
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 21: like him, some people don't. That's how the world, that's

1454
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 21: how it works, you know. And but like I said,

1455
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 21: I think it's a relevant whether he was a great

1456
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 21: quarterback already good call.

1457
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: No good stuff, Jimmy, No, No, that good, good, objective,

1458
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: pragmatic opinion.

1459
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, good good, good enthusiasm too.

1460
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 3: I like that, Kenny and Alabama. Welcome in the Bernie

1461
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: Fraddle Show.

1462
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 14: Oh thanks for taking call of first time callers.

1463
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 3: Welcome in. Good to have you.

1464
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I want to start off with Lane kissing man.

1465
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 14: I think he's the most overrated coach mavering about the

1466
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 14: last ten to fifteen years, like all this hoopla over

1467
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 14: guy that's never won a championship, a playoff game, a

1468
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 14: conference championship game, and LSU was about to spend one

1469
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,480
Speaker 14: hundred million dollars on him. I think that's just ridiculous.

1470
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 14: And all this drum and stuff that he's putting both l.

1471
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 14: Shuter and the old mess through, it's just not called for.

1472
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 14: It's not fair to the players, the coaches, their families.

1473
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 14: It's not fair at all.

1474
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: And that's well said. It feels like he's leaving.

1475
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: He's holding a hell of a lot of people hostage

1476
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 2: in the most egregious way, right before Mississippi's about to

1477
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: go to their first ever playoff Go ahead.

1478
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just crazy, you know. I hope the committee

1479
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 13: don't punish Old miss for this and leave them out

1480
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 13: because that was something he's doing.

1481
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 3: I hope not too. I don't think that'll happen. They

1482
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: may change their seed.

1483
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: I would say this, Kenny, that we were told this

1484
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: new playoff format was going to make the games on

1485
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: the field matter more. Well, I hope they remove some

1486
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: of the subjectivity and put place Old miss.

1487
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 3: Wherever they would have been. I agree with you on that.

1488
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: Anything on would you rather have Julian saying or Bryce Underwood.

1489
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 3: Oh neither, Okay, Okay, we'll just leave it for your reason.

1490
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, well two reasons real quick. I think Ohio State

1491
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 14: and Michigan don't do the best.

1492
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 13: Developing quarterback and like Daja, McCarty is a prime reason

1493
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 13: of that.

1494
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 3: And you know, ce J, you know, and I should

1495
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: have clarified this, Kenny.

1496
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 2: I'm more alluding to they're both going to start unless

1497
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: something crazy happens three more years at the respective schools.

1498
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,679
Speaker 2: I was more alluding to, as you, as you strive

1499
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: for a national championship, would you rather have Underwood or

1500
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: saying under center in college the next three years in college?

1501
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 10: Uh?

1502
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 14: Probably saying but.

1503
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, neither.

1504
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 14: I just say this with queer like nil getting all

1505
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 14: the nil money. It's just making you know, these guys

1506
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 14: not value football as much.

1507
01:13:58,439 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 3: I think. Good point.

1508
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: Hey, Kenny, listen, I didn't manage a Clockwell, don't be

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Speaker 2: a stranger. H Coming up, we'll have John in Louisiana

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01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: will join us. Sit right there, John, the men at

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Speaker 2: hour Rock and n' rolling as usual. I'm Bernie Fraddwick

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01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: County Life from Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: it locked and listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back in the Bernie Frattle Show,

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, we go back out to the phones.

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 3: John and Louisiana joins us. Your thoughts on the topics.

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 22: John, Hey, hey, Bernie, real quick, could you rob me

1518
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 22: of the first question?

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 3: Sure?

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 2: Basically the first one had to do with Julian sand

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01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 2: versus Bryce Underwood, two freshman quarterbacks.

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01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: Who would you rather have?

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 22: Yeah, no, saying one hundred percent, staying over under one

1524
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 22: hundred percent.

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01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 11: I think Underwood can.

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 7: Can be good.

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01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 22: You got to develop a little bit more. But saying

1528
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 22: saying his money, he can hit the deep ball, I

1529
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 22: think it's by far staying so far.

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01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 3: Fair enough. Let's move on to, of course, the big topic. Kiffin.

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01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 3: Uh is he going to come through at l s U.

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, Now he's gonna have success. We're gonna win

1533
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 22: interesting success, and he's gonna he's gonna perform a hundred percent.

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01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: Now, so you do think you do think he'll win

1535
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: a Natty like saving less miles of not Ordron did?

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I think enough.

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 22: I think it's I think it's definitely possible. I'm not

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 22: saying it will happen, but it's gonna be possible. It's

1539
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 22: definitely gonna be possible. And Alix fans are going to

1540
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 22: expect that.

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: And well, there's no question Tony.

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01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 22: There's unrealistic expectations in college football. What happened.

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01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 7: But he'll he'll if it didn't work out, he'll get fired.

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01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: So real quickly, John, Tony Romol, Yes or no? I've

1545
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: I laid him out pretty good there earlier.

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think Realm's fine.

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 11: He didn't bother me, But you know, I don't really care.

1548
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 22: I like to watch football and I'll meet the commentators

1549
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 22: if I have to, But Freddie Romo, none of them

1550
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 22: really bother me. Those guys rab people the wrong way

1551
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 22: or not me.

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks a lot for checking in, John.

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: And what would be the big story at LSU if

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: he actually did win there, not if he crashes and burns.

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01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: The big story would be if Lane did win? All right, Jeff,

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: you're the final call, Jeff in Denver. We're bringing some

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: to that on the minute hour.

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01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 18: Hey, Bernie, good talking to you. I had this time

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01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 18: in on this. I don't have much for the two

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 18: quarterbacks things. But Tony Romo is just doing his thing, man,

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 18: He's just put providing what he can provide. It is

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01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 18: what it is. But all right, Lane, the line Kiffin

1563
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 18: thing is just absolutely wrong to tell kids all year long,

1564
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 18: we're in it, this is what we're doing, stick with

1565
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 18: the program, let's go, let's go, let's go, and then

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 18: to back out. It's just the most asinine thing in

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 18: the world.

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: Well, what makes you troubling, Jeff, is they're about to

1569
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: go to their first ever playoff.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 3: I gotta fight in chance they lost one game this

1571
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: year to Georgia, one game.

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 18: To stay there and build your legacy there instead of

1573
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 18: jumping ship. You tell these kids to you know, buy

1574
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 18: and buy and buy in and then you back out.

1575
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 18: What a horse is behind.

1576
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're never gonna like the way your coach leaves

1577
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 2: if he's been successful.

1578
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: But this just adds tremendous insult to injury. The timing.

1579
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: He didn't make the announcement Saturday like you said he was,

1580
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: and I understand there's all kinds of consternation. He's threatening

1581
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: to steal a whole team and you better let me

1582
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 2: coach during the playoff or I'm gonna do this. He's

1583
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:36,679
Speaker 2: like a petulant child.

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Speaker 18: What the LSU doesn't go, You're gonna go somewhere else.

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 18: You know, you tell kids that you know buy and

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01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 18: buy and buy and then you leave. That is the

1587
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 18: you know, you know, the pot calling the kettle black.

1588
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 3: Did you have a thought on Julian Sane versus Bryce Underwood.

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 18: I don't even know who those guys are.

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: Tell you, okay, no out gig good enough?

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01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 3: Look anything else? Jeff, you got the last word.

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01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 18: No, that's the only kipping thing is just absolutely wrong,

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01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 18: one hundred and on everything. I mean, you cannot buy it.

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01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 18: You cannot be a coach and tell people to buy

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01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 18: in and then.

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 11: You back out.

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeap point taking Jeff, thanks a lot, don't be a stranger.

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, I want to remind everybody with

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01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you happen

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Speaker 2: up at the top.

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Speaker 3: Of your screen.

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01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna get to the litany later. The Oakland Raiders,

1609
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Evalls, the USC Trojans, Alabama and now LSU.

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin has a well documented history. He leaves abruptly,

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01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 2: he leaves in controversial fashion. He has had multiple high

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01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: profile coaching jobs and that's led to his reputation for

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01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: messy innings.

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01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: I was hoping he wouldn't do it this time.

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01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: But when you heard the things Al Dave al Davis

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: said about him, he called me and he called him

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 2: a con man, called him a liar. It was one

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01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: of the most craziest, one of the craziest press conferences I've.

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01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 3: Ever seen in my life. And I remember it was

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01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 3: basically seventeen years ago.

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 2: He fired Kiff and al Davis fired Kiffin after only

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: twenty games for cause. All right, thanks to all the callers.

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01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: Great job coming up. Well you go to our man,

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01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 2: Mark Mendina. A little NBA coming up next. Keep it

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01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: locks to the Bernie fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man Bernie Fraddles shows keeps

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 2: rolling right along. Take you up to three m Pacific,

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: six am Eastern. Thanks again so much to the great

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: men at hour callers. I wish we had more time,

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: but thanks to your patience, thanks to your input, you

1632
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: are what make this segment great. Speaking of a great segment,

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01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna jump to basketball now. Three simple words.

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01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: It's that time.

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01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports Radio NBA guru

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01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: also a writer for essentially Sports Mark another week, another day,

1637
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: another don it? How about those Lakers fourteen and four?

1638
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: They've won six in a row. Honest to God?

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01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: Is this sustainable? Or they just doing it against the

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01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 3: Utahs and Dallases?

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01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 16: Bernie, you reader eat some crow and actually legitimize the

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01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 16: Lakers here or what?

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01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 3: Well? Sure? I mean why not? Since the season's only

1644
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 3: eighteen games? Why not?

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01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: No, I'll eat some crow in that. I thought Lebron

1646
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: would be out till December first, But I'm still good.

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01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't have them in the conference finals or anything.

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01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 3: No, and if they I'll lead crow in April or May.

1649
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: But the truth of the matter, is this really sustainable?

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01:20:59,160 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 11: I think it is?

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01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 16: Well, I'm a believer in the Lakers. Now, that doesn't

1652
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 16: mean I'm a believer that they're going to win the

1653
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 16: Voice of the Little Area of Brian trophy or beat

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01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 16: the Oklahoma City Thunder in the Western Conference Finals, but

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01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 16: I honestly wont to be surprised that they finished the

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 16: way the season is right now, second in the West.

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 16: That's not to say it's going to happen to Denver Nuggets.

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01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 16: They could have a rebuttal, but in the short term

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01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 16: their managing challenges because Aaron Gordon's out of the lineup

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 16: and hamstring injuries are always sticy. The Houston Rockets can

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 16: have a rebuttal because they have Kevin Durant and a

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01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,879
Speaker 16: really good young core with Alvin Thompson and Albert Singhoun.

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 16: But look, the Lakers have laid down that this blueprint

1664
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 16: can work. Luca Doctics is early running for MVP, Austin

1665
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 16: Reeves is playing a case for him to be in

1666
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 16: the All Star Game, and Lebron he seems alright with

1667
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 16: playing the third option. And you know they're not strength

1668
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 16: in numbers Golden State Warriors type depth, but the role

1669
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 16: players aren't decent. So you add it all up and.

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Speaker 3: Win some games.

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01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: Well, I covered a team, the Detroit Pistons, where defense

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01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: did win championships, and you made factual statements about their

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 2: big three, and I don't think any of them can

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Speaker 2: guard a park car in the playoffs. You know, Minnesota.

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01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota is gonna have something to say about it too.

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01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 2: It took the Lakers in five last year, and you're

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01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna run back with essentially the same team with

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01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 2: maybe less depth and oh, by the way, defense.

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 3: But listen, you answered my question, so let's not debate it.

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: It's only November thirtieth. I mean, we're a long way away.

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01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: You saw the MAVs. Cooper Flagg had a coming out

1682
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: party against the Clippers Saturn. I scored thirty five points

1683
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: as an eighteen year old, surpassed the aforementioned Lebron Will

1684
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 2: Dallas wake up and do some things later in the year?

1685
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 3: Are they cooked well?

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01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 16: Talking to Dallas average, they're firm believers that they're gonna

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01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 16: be all right once they got healthy. But I don't

1688
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 16: see it. Cooper Flag he's going to become a really

1689
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 16: special player. I think that he's shown, you know, barring

1690
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 16: major injury, he's winning a Rookie of the Year. And

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01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 16: Klay Thompson, you know, how to breakout game tonight against

1692
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 16: the Clippers and had some flashback moments as if he

1693
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 16: was with the Golden State Warriors in his prime. But

1694
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 16: I know Anthony Davis is back, but you never know

1695
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 16: how sustainable his health can be. Kyrie Irving he has

1696
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 16: an ACL injury. The earliest projection for him is likely

1697
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 16: January February. And a lot of times when players come

1698
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 16: back for ACL injuries, like they're not the same player

1699
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 16: and they have to treat that season is almost a

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 16: gap year. So I would be surprised if the Mavericks

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01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 16: can take themselves out of this hole. But one thing

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01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 16: I will give the Mavericks credit after seeing them live

1703
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 16: these past two games, they at least compete guys like

1704
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 16: Nagie Marshall, great role player, two way talent, Cooper Flag

1705
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,879
Speaker 16: As I mentioned before, he's not afraid to get physical.

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01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 16: He takes on challenging defensive assignments. He's really aggressive at

1707
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 16: the rim. Klay Thompson, he's for professional with his bench

1708
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 16: playing role. So they're always going to give an honest

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01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 16: effort here. But I think it's just very telling that

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01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 16: how fitting this was.

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01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 8: PJ.

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01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 16: Washington was a late scratch because he's slipped on a

1713
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 16: basketball and spraying his right ankle during pregame warmups. I mean,

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01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 16: I think that symbolizes that this team is going to

1715
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 16: struggle to stay healthy and hence my skepticism. But again,

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01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 16: I at least do give credit to a man that

1717
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 16: you know, there's no fractured locker room and they're all

1718
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 16: trying to, you know, fight and still make it worth

1719
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 16: their while.

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Speaker 3: I agree with all that. Again, it's it's very early

1721
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: in the season.

1722
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: And what's interesting is Lebron has actually gone almost thirteen

1723
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 2: hundred games in a row while he scored. He's got

1724
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: a double digit scoring streak. Do you think that gets

1725
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 2: broken this year?

1726
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 16: No, I think it's just going to continue because there's

1727
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 16: been so many games, right, I think, you know what,

1728
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 16: this might be the one that's in then all of

1729
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 16: a sudden, he goes on a scoring tear in the

1730
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 16: second half. I think Lebron is very conscious of that.

1731
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 16: At the same time, he usually plays the right way.

1732
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 16: But you know, because he's still a focal point, at

1733
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 16: least a third option on the team and on the floor.

1734
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 16: When he's on the floor, he's been still effective playing

1735
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 16: through injuries. I think that he's still going to get

1736
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 16: that now. I don't think that he's going to be

1737
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 16: eligible for any All NBA awards this season because you know,

1738
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 16: it's the sixty five game minimum. He could really only

1739
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 16: miss a handful more games. And I think that because

1740
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 16: of where he's at in his career, they're going to

1741
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 16: rest him on certain back to backs that he's not

1742
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 16: going to be eligible for that. But I think that

1743
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 16: double digits scoring streak, I think that he'll be able

1744
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 16: to sustain that, frankly the rest.

1745
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 7: Of his career.

1746
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: Tait of Mark Medina Medina Magic or Fox Sports Radio

1747
01:25:54,600 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: Nbia Guru, also writer for Essentially Sports Mark.

1748
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: I want to go off the reservation for a minute.

1749
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: Is there truth to the rumor that the minority group

1750
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: of the Phoenix Suns is accusing Matt Ishbia of using

1751
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: his team as his personal piggy bank?

1752
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, I mean this is all litigated now. Matdishpil

1753
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 16: will say none of that's true. You know, this is

1754
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 16: just you know, them trying to extort him and all

1755
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 16: that and try to get some money out of him.

1756
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 16: But yeah, there is a lawsuit in that. It's always

1757
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 16: how it's solved in the courts, but it always starts

1758
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 16: with allegations. But if I had a guess, I frankly

1759
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 16: don't think this really goes anywhere.

1760
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just when things like that make news. And

1761
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 2: by the way, has there been any follow up. It's

1762
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: very much under the radar. The whole Chauncey Billups situation

1763
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 2: with the poker games and the gambling. People kept saying

1764
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: it's a tip of the iceberg. Well, I haven't seen

1765
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: the second shoe drop yet, but what's happening with that.

1766
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 2: It's just quietly for you know, proceeding behind the scenes.

1767
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, earlier this week he pled not guilty, so

1768
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 16: this is all these court cases take a while. So

1769
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 16: he appeared in federal court earlier this week he pled

1770
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 16: not guilty, So you know, they're going to make some scheduling,

1771
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 16: you know, arrangements on him and Damon Jones on when

1772
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 16: they appear in court next. But this is all just

1773
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 16: kind of procedural. So the fact that you're not hearing much,

1774
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 16: that's kind of just how litigation works. And as far

1775
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 16: as what happens with the investigation with the FBI, you know,

1776
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 16: I know that they've been trying to call you know,

1777
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 16: different league officials to testify, so that's another part of it.

1778
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 16: I think the other part of it is that the

1779
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 16: league itself, they're going to cooperate with authorities with going

1780
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 16: through their own investigation, with interviewing all these different people.

1781
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 16: And so I think this is something that's going to take,

1782
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 16: you know, upwards to a year, and we'll lowly but

1783
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 16: surely have news trickle out about any of these developments.

1784
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: By the way, if I a digress for just a second,

1785
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: I meant to bring this up. The Lakers are giving

1786
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: up like seventy shooting inside of five feet, so they

1787
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: lack rim protection too.

1788
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 3: Do they have a solution for that?

1789
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, well they're not a weit defensive team. But one

1790
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 16: thing I do want to point out is they didn't

1791
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 16: bring back the same supporting cast, right. You know, Marcus

1792
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 16: Smart is a really great defender. Same thing with Jake

1793
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:35,719
Speaker 16: Wulrabia as far as perimeter defense. And that helps because

1794
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 16: Austin ree Is, Luka Dodgis that are giving an honest effort,

1795
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 16: better effort defensively this season. But they're not elite defenders.

1796
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 16: You know, I think as far as you know what

1797
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 16: they do on their front court. DeAndre Ayton, he again

1798
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 16: he's not going to be an all defensive player, but

1799
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 16: he has shown an engagement level. You've seen the best

1800
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,920
Speaker 16: version of him so far because he's gained so many

1801
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 16: easy baskets and as a result of that, he is

1802
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,440
Speaker 16: giving an honest effort in the interior.

1803
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: God bless him. But that's kind of like being the

1804
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 2: best hockey player in Argentina right now, you know. Anyway,

1805
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: moving along, and I should have mentioned this too, because

1806
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: you're here again, that's right. Don't forget to try to

1807
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: send my bonet spaghetti here all week. Listen, let me

1808
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: say this mark because I meant to bring this up,

1809
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of jumping all over the map tonight.

1810
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is and I like Anthony Davis when he's healthy.

1811
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: Scheduled to make like one hundred and seventy million the

1812
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: next three years. But I understand the Mavericks are actually

1813
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: exploring a Davis trade already and hoping you get it

1814
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 2: done by the trade deadline.

1815
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 3: Is your true to that and could they make that happen?

1816
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 16: I don't think they're exploring trades right now. I think

1817
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 16: it's just been about trying to be patient with his rehab.

1818
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 16: You know, he made his return on the Mini's restriction

1819
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 16: against the Lakers. He played relatively well and established some

1820
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 16: good chemistry. I think what's going to happen is the

1821
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 16: Maverick are going to have full clarity. You know, by

1822
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,879
Speaker 16: the end of December mid January. Is this team climbing

1823
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 16: out of the hole after they're finally getting whole with

1824
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 16: having a Quean Bill health and then that's when they'll

1825
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 16: start becoming sellers. I think when you're looking at the

1826
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 16: business of basketball and hal NBA teams operate. If they

1827
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 16: can't sell winning, they sell hope and what the right

1828
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 16: of what the Mavericks right now are trying to sell

1829
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 16: us hope that hey, guys are playing hard. Anthony Davis

1830
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 16: is coming back, you know, he's getting phase back in

1831
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 16: the lineup. Maybe some of their guys like Daniel Gafford

1832
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 16: and Derrick Lively the second can come back soon. Now

1833
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 16: let's see what they're made of. But it is a

1834
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 16: long haul. But to answer your question, they're not making

1835
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 16: any selling moves right now. But that's because the way

1836
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 16: the calendar works is no teams are really negotiating because

1837
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 16: we're still two months away from the trade deadline.

1838
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of trades, I'm hearing LaMelo Ball amongst some trade

1839
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: rumors and he might have more than one suit out.

1840
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that that's definitely going to happen. But again,

1841
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 16: I don't think that the Shard Hornets are entertaining calls

1842
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,639
Speaker 16: at this point because there's still a lot of time

1843
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 16: before the trade deadline. But I know going into the season,

1844
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 16: the Hornets wanted to finally be a team that turns

1845
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 16: the corner with Wa Melo Ball being more consistently healthy

1846
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 16: and this team finally becoming a playoff team. They've been

1847
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 16: a team that is very intriguing, but you know, isn't

1848
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 16: quite making that leap. You know, they've had a few

1849
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 16: planned tournament appearances but doesn't really go anywhere. So it's

1850
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 16: really disappointing that even when you look at how great

1851
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 16: of a performance that Kamker Nipple has had his rookie

1852
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 16: season with not just being a great shooter but being

1853
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 16: a great all round player, that everyone else hasn't carried

1854
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 16: their own weight here. So I think that going to

1855
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 16: the trade deadline they will be sellers and Ball be

1856
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 16: at the top of the list. But given his talent,

1857
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 16: I think the Hornets are going to be expecting a

1858
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 16: lot in return.

1859
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, And again I like him when he's available,

1860
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 2: but he hasn't always been available talking with Mark Medina

1861
01:32:12,840 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 2: adda magic or Fox Sports Radio NBA guru or a

1862
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: writer also a writer for essentially sports. All Right, I'm

1863
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 2: invoking this subject tonight because another thirty days have gone by.

1864
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 3: We have November thirties upon.

1865
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,560
Speaker 2: Us in the December first, so the extension for the

1866
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: WNBA CBA is about to expire. Have they made any

1867
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: progress on those talks.

1868
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that they haven't made substantial progress, but

1869
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 16: I think by the time the steadline happens, they agree

1870
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 16: to a deal. You know, as much as I'm not

1871
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,560
Speaker 16: following the ins and outs as I have and with

1872
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 16: the MBA, we've had this discussion that even though there's

1873
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 16: queer disagreements with the players union and ownership on how

1874
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 16: they divide the pie, given the recent growth in the league,

1875
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 16: both parties are very well aware of the attention economy

1876
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,759
Speaker 16: and the ramifications if they don't seize on the momentum

1877
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 16: of ensuring there's no work stoppage. So I don't know

1878
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 16: when they're going to agree to a deal, but they're

1879
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 16: going to agree to a deal well before there's any

1880
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 16: concern that it can sacrifice, you know, it can leave

1881
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 16: next season vulnerable as far as scheduling goes.

1882
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 3: Marcus Early, we left out that you wanted to bring

1883
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 3: to the table tonight.

1884
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 16: You know what I think, Yeah, I will say that

1885
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 16: Kevon Looney, you know, Warriors Prize role player, he got

1886
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 16: a very good video tribute when the New Orleans Pelicans

1887
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 16: played the Warriors today, So that was very notable and

1888
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,440
Speaker 16: I know that that was something that was very emotional

1889
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 16: for Kavan Luis. Look, he's only a role player here,

1890
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 16: but to a man, the Warriors really credit him for

1891
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 16: how great of a glue guy he was to compliment

1892
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 16: all those star players. And he's in rough sledding right

1893
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 16: now with the Pelicans, but you know, he's been someone

1894
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 16: that's trying to inject some veteran leadership on the team

1895
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 16: and be kind of a model example for Zion Williamson.

1896
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 16: Right like, Kevon Looney entered the NBA having a lot

1897
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 16: of injury problems and then he became known as a

1898
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 16: guy that can play you know, allwards of eighty two

1899
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,879
Speaker 16: games these past few seasons. So talking to him earlier

1900
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 16: in the year, he was saying, you know, it's about

1901
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 16: keeping your routine consistent. And while he did stress that

1902
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 16: he's been impressed with Zion Williamson's work behind the scenes.

1903
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 16: He did stress that it's one thing to show it

1904
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 16: one day, but you have to be very consistent every

1905
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 16: single day. But you know what, beyond that, you basically

1906
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 16: have the whole league cover. That's why this weekly segment

1907
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 16: is so enjoyable with you.

1908
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you brought.

1909
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Up Kevon Looney because he's always been one of my favorites.

1910
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 2: He got a full minute standing ovation. He was a

1911
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 2: first rounder ten years ago. Remember Golden State just won

1912
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: a championship in twenty twenty two. He played all eighty

1913
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: two games that season, and I think he was a

1914
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 2: key cog in that championship season. But he played the

1915
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 2: game the right way and was a fan favorite. Speaking

1916
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: of fan favorites, this we'll wrap it up on this one.

1917
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 2: What in the hell happened to John Moran?

1918
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 3: Three years ago? They were talking about him being the

1919
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 3: face of the league. What to take it, He's going

1920
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: to be working at a cookie factory to.

1921
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 16: Be well, he won't be the face of the league.

1922
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what happened? Really? What in the world happened

1923
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: to this guy?

1924
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 16: Yeah? Well, I've been able to stay healthy, so that's

1925
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 16: point number one, but point number two, when he's been

1926
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 16: on the court, he hasn't been able to adjust to

1927
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 16: what the new coaching staff wants. And you know what,

1928
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 16: as much as in today's NBA a lot of times

1929
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 16: they cater to the star players, if you're not consistently productive,

1930
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 16: you're no longer catered to. So I do wonder it's

1931
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 16: gonna be tough because he embodies the Grizzlies skin of

1932
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 16: the Memphis community. They really love him for, you know,

1933
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Speaker 16: being a franchise guy that's really embraced the city. But

1934
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Speaker 16: when you're looking at his maturity issues, you know, with

1935
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 16: the off the court stuff, with the gun, his episodes

1936
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 16: of Instagram Live, and his poor attitude this season, it's

1937
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 16: going to be a really tough decision. It's disappointing because

1938
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 16: I know, talking to people in the Grizzlies organization after

1939
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 16: his mistakes, when he had the lengthy suspension for his

1940
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 16: off the court behavior, they would say, you know what,

1941
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 16: he's in more controit. His work habits are great. He's

1942
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 16: a great teammate, but he's really he's really not doing

1943
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 16: himself a disservice by being a distracted with the team.

1944
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Speaker 16: With the way he's conducted himself this year.

1945
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Speaker 2: Well, even on the floor, the last sixty three pointers

1946
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 2: he's attempted, he's missed fifty of them.

1947
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Speaker 3: Yeah, those are real numbers.

1948
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Speaker 2: I always got a cafe injury. Now he's not playing,

1949
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: but sixty three pointers made, ten and no folks were

1950
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: not talking about Brownie James. Good night, Mark.

1951
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 3: I always appreciate you. You got the last word.

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Speaker 16: Anything else, Well, I was gonna say, there's a reason

1953
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 16: why when he was talking trash with Klay Thompson last

1954
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 16: week that Klay just called him out and said, you know,

1955
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 16: he has a lot to say. He has a lot

1956
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 16: to say all the time, especially for a guy who

1957
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 16: rarely takes accountability.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good stuff.

1959
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Speaker 2: We'll see if there's any major news between now and

1960
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Speaker 2: next week, but this segment always pops.

1961
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Speaker 3: Mark, enjoy your week ahead.

1962
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Speaker 16: Likewise, se you appreciate you, all right.

1963
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Speaker 2: That is Mark Medina Magic, As I said, he you know,

1964
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Speaker 2: is our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru and he writes

1965
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1966
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Speaker 2: for the best pregame show every weekend, be sure to

1967
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1968
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Speaker 2: presented by Bet MGM. Every Saturday and Sunday morning, We'll

1969
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Speaker 2: count you down to all the biggest games for three

1970
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Speaker 2: hours right up until kickoff for all the best plays

1971
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Speaker 2: and up to the second injury news tuned into Countdown

1972
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1973
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1974
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Speaker 3: Right here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up a bottom

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Speaker 3: of the hour, we got the Fantasy Files.

1976
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Speaker 2: But coming up at a second I will share with

1977
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Speaker 2: you a little tidbit about what Al Davis, the late

1978
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: great owner of the Raiders, had to say about his

1979
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Speaker 2: experience with Lane Kiffin. I'm Bernie Frattle or Kenny Line

1980
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Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it

1981
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Speaker 2: locked You listened to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox

1982
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1983
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1984
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1985
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1986
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1987
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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

1988
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Speaker 2: Take up to three am Pacific six am Eastern. About

1989
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,919
Speaker 2: three or four minutes we'll get to the Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 2: But a little reflection on Lane Kiffin, who, by the

1991
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 2: time he was thirty one had already had stops at

1992
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: Fresno State in Colorado State, had a cub had a

1993
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: Coaly controlled position with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and then even

1994
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 2: spent some time with Pete Carroll at USC. But then

1995
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: al Davis hired him at thirty one as the head

1996
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 2: coach of the Raiders in January will seven.

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Speaker 3: It didn't take long for those two to go at

1998
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Speaker 3: it like I Cantina.

1999
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 2: Turner facts facts. He was four and twelve his first year,

2000
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. Al Davis asked him to resign after year one.

2001
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 2: Kiffin refused, and I don't know what happened after that,

2002
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: except I do know this. The second season got off

2003
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,799
Speaker 2: to even worse start. He went one to three. Kiffend

2004
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,840
Speaker 2: did his first four games, and by mid September al

2005
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 2: Davis knew let everybody know he was unhappy with Kiffin,

2006
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 2: and on September thirtieth, he fired. Al Davis fired Lane

2007
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 2: Kiffin over the phone. He's tenure with the Raiders five

2008
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: and fifteen with Oakland, over twenty games as a head.

2009
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 3: Coach, and he took over. You know, that's that opened

2010
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Speaker 3: the door for Tom Cable.

2011
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Speaker 2: But what was incredibly noteworthy and infamous al Davis had

2012
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 2: a one hour press conference after he fired Lane Kiffin,

2013
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: and he completely went scorched to earth on Lane Kiffin.

2014
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 2: This is just a sample snippet as to what al

2015
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 2: Davis said at that press conference.

2016
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Speaker 3: And these are quotes.

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Speaker 13: Quote.

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Speaker 2: I reached a point where I felt the whole staff

2019
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: was fractionalized. The best thing to do was get this

2020
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: thing to get all right, let me try that again

2021
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 2: in English. The best thing to do to get this

2022
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 2: thing back was to make a change. Al Davis said

2023
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,719
Speaker 2: as he opened up, it hurts because quote, I picked

2024
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,679
Speaker 2: the guy. I picked the wrong guy. At one point,

2025
01:40:57,080 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 2: al Davis read a letter that he said to his

2026
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 2: former coach that detailed mistakes kiff had made on and

2027
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,320
Speaker 2: off the field. Al Davis went on to say he

2028
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: finally fired Kiffen for cause because quote, he disgraced the organization,

2029
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 2: setting a variety of issues, including conflicts over personnel moves.

2030
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Speaker 2: Alright Lives to the media all quoting dal Davis, he said, quote,

2031
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it was one thing. It was a

2032
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: cumulative thing. I think the pattern just disturbed me. It

2033
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 2: went to arbitration, and an arbitrator upheld Kiffin's firing for cause,

2034
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: which meant al Davis did not have to pay Lane

2035
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 2: Kiffin the remainder of his salary. He'd signed a three year,

2036
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:47,640
Speaker 2: six million dollars deal in two thousand and seven. Afterward

2037
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: he left Tennessee in the dust. He returned to college.

2038
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 2: Why did Kiffin lead Tennessee? Well, I'm going to get

2039
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 2: to that in a minute, and now that ended in

2040
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: a complete dumpster fire. First, hey, we are eight hours

2041
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: and thirty minutes away from NFL Sunday.

2042
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Speaker 3: It's time for the Fantasy Files.

2043
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Speaker 4: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 11: Are you got one?

2045
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 23: God? Welcome to Fantasy Files. I'm Brandon Deutsch and we

2046
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 23: have to win our matchups this week. This is a

2047
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 23: pivotal week. We got playoffs in a lot of leagues

2048
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 23: next week, and this is the time to really lock

2049
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 23: in and play the guys that you have the most

2050
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 23: confidence in. I know in one league, I sat Roma

2051
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 23: Doonze for the Friday night game or Friday the day game.

2052
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 23: Actually I might as well just call it the Black

2053
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 23: Friday game because it was not at night. But Roma

2054
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 23: Dunze only had a few fantasy points. I figured against

2055
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,639
Speaker 23: a really stout Eagles defense, he would not be great,

2056
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 23: and I slotted in Khalil Shakir, so that's gonna be

2057
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 23: our first lineup lock of the week. Shakier is coming

2058
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 23: off of back to back very good games led the

2059
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 23: Bills and target share last week, and he's going to

2060
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 23: against the Pitts defense in ranks bottom five in the

2061
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 23: entire NFL guys, So this is a guy that should

2062
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 23: get at least fifteen fantasy point flour. I think Josh

2063
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 23: Allen he always has big games after he has a

2064
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 23: stinker of the previous week.

2065
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: He's still in the MVP race.

2066
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 23: Say what you want. I know Matt Stafford, Drake May,

2067
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 23: and Dak Prescott are probably at the top of that

2068
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 23: list because Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, and jamieer Gibbs are

2069
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,720
Speaker 23: not included in JSN because they're not quarterbacks. It's a

2070
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 23: quarterback award. But Josh Allen could still very much win

2071
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 23: this award if he goes on and has a huge

2072
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 23: few games coming up. I would also start Lad mccaukey

2073
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 23: against the Raiders. The Raiders have one of the worst

2074
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 23: teams in the league. I know a lot of people

2075
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 23: would say, oh, their defense is better than their offense. Well,

2076
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 23: you can't compare atrociousness with atrociousness. They suck all around

2077
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 23: right now. The players are not bought in. They're playing

2078
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 23: for the first overall pick. I don't think they want

2079
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 23: to win this game.

2080
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 14: I don't.

2081
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 23: I think that Lad mccauckey's still the wide receiver one

2082
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 23: on the Chargers and going to have a big game

2083
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 23: coming off of their bye week. I would sit Michael

2084
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 23: Pittman Junior against Houston. Love this matchup. Houston has been

2085
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 23: the best defense in all football all season long, but

2086
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 23: especially the last five weeks. They haven't allowed more than

2087
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 23: one hundred and fifty passing yards per game. So I

2088
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 23: just don't trust any of the pass catchers for the

2089
01:44:11,439 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 23: Colts right now. I would also sit Ricky Piersall against

2090
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 23: Cleveland and pains me because I thought he would have

2091
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 23: a big week. He gets the Panther's team that plays

2092
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,800
Speaker 23: a lot of zone. Party typically kills zone. But when

2093
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 23: they played the game, they saw Ayuk's not playing party.

2094
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 3: Can't beat man coverage.

2095
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 23: Let's play man coverage the entire game. Piersall was open,

2096
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 23: he got open, he separated, and Piersall was late with

2097
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 23: those three hitches and through two picks when he was

2098
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 23: targeting Pearsall. So we can't trust him against the Cleveland

2099
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 23: Browns defense that only gives up one hundred and seventy

2100
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 23: point two passing yards per game, which is second in

2101
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 23: the NFL behind Houston. So I'm sitting Ricky Pearsall. I'm

2102
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 23: also sitting Juwan Jennings in this game. If the Niners

2103
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 23: want to win this game, they got to control the clock.

2104
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 23: They get a run with Christian McCaffrey, with Brian Robinson Junior.

2105
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 23: I do like George Kittle still because he will get

2106
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 23: a lot of checkdowns. I think he gets eight or

2107
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 23: nine catches. I really really really like in this game

2108
01:44:57,479 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 23: Quinn Shawn Jenkins. I know the forty nine ers Brenden

2109
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 23: Butter is their run defense versus their pass defense ninth

2110
01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 23: against the run. I just don't trust a young quarterback

2111
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 23: and Shure Sanders in this game to really make things happen,

2112
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 23: even against the twenty sixth ranked pass defense in all

2113
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,560
Speaker 23: of football, especially after last week Wednesday finally got some

2114
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 23: turnovers against Bryce Young, who right now is a better

2115
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 23: quarterback than Shador Sanders. Shaudor is only played one game

2116
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 23: and it was against the Raiders, So was it really

2117
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 23: a football game?

2118
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 20: Right?

2119
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 23: Like, we got to ask ourselves out. When you play

2120
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 23: the Raiders right now, that is like playing a CFL

2121
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 23: team that is not an NFL team right as we speak,

2122
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 23: it's like playing the Titans, right I can't judge somebody

2123
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 23: off of playing the Titans or Raiders. This is where

2124
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 23: we can really judge stuor Sanders. I think they'll lean

2125
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 23: on quinch On Judkins. I think they he will have

2126
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 23: a pretty big game, get a touchdown, probably sixteen seventeen,

2127
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 23: eighteen carries. I think this will be a closer game

2128
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 23: than people think. I would start Stefan Diggs against the

2129
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 23: New York Giants. I think Drake may is a huge game.

2130
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 23: And now I'm not that he played bad last week.

2131
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 23: He had fifteen Fantasy points. I do expect the Giants

2132
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,600
Speaker 23: to be exploited, especially that pass defense is horrible, just

2133
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 23: a horrible pass defense. Stefan should have a big game,

2134
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 23: and of course Hunter Henry, if you're starting a tight

2135
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 23: end need a streamer, I would start him too. He

2136
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 23: should have a pretty big game. I'd sit Quinn Johnson

2137
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 23: against the Raiders. Now I know the Raiders suck, but

2138
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 23: also Quinn and Johnson hasn't done anything in the weeks.

2139
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 3: He did legit Cardio.

2140
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 23: Before the bye week zero fantasy points, and Lad McConkey,

2141
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 23: Ronde gatst And, and Keenan Allen are ahead of him

2142
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 23: on the depth chart. So to me, I don't see

2143
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 23: an avenue where Quinn and Johnson has a big game

2144
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 23: unless he gets a touchdown, which I just don't think

2145
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 23: is likely this week. I would also make sure to

2146
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 23: start Troy Franklin against watching Troy Franklin has almost double

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Speaker 23: the targets of any other wide receiver pass catcher in

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01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 23: the team combined in the last four games for the

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01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,799
Speaker 23: Denver Broncos. Bo Nix and Troy Franklin played together at Oregon.

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01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 23: They have a rapport that you just can't teach. He's

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01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 23: been the one on this team, not Courtland Sutton. I'm

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01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 23: not saying sid Courland Sutton, but I think you have

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01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 23: to start Troy Franklin at this part. At this point

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01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 23: in the season, he's averaging twelve Fantasy points. The last

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01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 23: few games. He's gotten eight plus tarks, every single one

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Speaker 23: of them. Make sure to start Travis etn against the

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01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 23: Tennessee Titans twenty fifth ranked run defense. Eten should have

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01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,680
Speaker 23: a huge game really like he did last week with

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01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 23: those two touchdowns. I mean, he's been great all year

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Speaker 23: fifteen fantasy point average. I would sit Aaron Jones against

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01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 23: the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle as a top five run defense.

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01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 23: Aaron Jones has been bad all year, and I would

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01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 23: actually start even if he's on a little bit of

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01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 23: a snapcount Bucky your being against Arizona. He's just too explosive,

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01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,719
Speaker 23: too much of a playmaker to keep on your bench.

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01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 23: You have to kind of put him in, especially if

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01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 23: for trying to get into the playoffs. And I would

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Speaker 23: sit Tony Pollard because I think it's the opposite of upside.

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01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 23: He's a lock it in eight to nine fantasy points.

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01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 23: You don't need that. You don't need that. The difference

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01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 23: is typically fifteen. You want your flex or your RB

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01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 23: two to get fourteen or fifteen fantasy points. So that's

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01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,639
Speaker 23: where I would lean Tony Pollard there. I'd start jailing

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01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 23: warning against Buffalo great pass defense. Buffalo does not have

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01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 23: a good run defense this year, And I would sit

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Speaker 23: Formondre Stevenson against the New York Giants. Just because Trevion

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01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 23: is the guy out snapped mondre by a ton last week.

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Speaker 23: Let me know what you guys think. Make sure to

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Speaker 23: check me out at BSD takes on x, Brandon s

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Speaker 23: Deutsch on TikTok, and Bran Deutsch on YouTube. Back to

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Speaker 23: the Bernie Fradershow let's win our matchups?

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Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, it is the last one before the playoffs start.

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01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 2: I know my son's got a big weekend. If he

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01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,360
Speaker 2: wins this weekend, he will he will finish in first

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01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,959
Speaker 2: place and ta get up by adding into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So this big stuff, but also big stuff.

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01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:20,560
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the Lane Kiffen debacle timeline of controversy.

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Speaker 3: So up next.

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01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 2: After the Raiders, Kiffen went to Tennessee, where he lasted

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01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,960
Speaker 2: all of thirteen games one season, thirteen games. He was

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01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:34,839
Speaker 2: seven and six, but he accepted the head coaching position

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01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:39,960
Speaker 2: at USC quality it his dream job. Timing again the

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01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 2: worst less than a month before National signing Day. It

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01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: cost significant fan outrage. There are all kinds of student protests,

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01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,800
Speaker 2: mattresses being set on fire, and chance of.

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01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 3: Fu Kiffin. You could hear it all around the city.

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Speaker 3: So what was up with that?

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Speaker 2: Why did Lane kiffen leave Tennessee, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: he replaced longtime Tennessee coach Philip Follmer. Foemer had been

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01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:15,040
Speaker 2: in Knoxville for a couple of decades, won a national

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Speaker 2: title in nineteen ninety eight, and he was beloved. Kiffin

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01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 2: was a debacle debacle, and he described why did they

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01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 2: leave Tennessee. He described US as his dream job. Why well,

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01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:33,559
Speaker 2: he'd been there six years a decade earlier as an

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01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 2: assistant coach under Pete Carroll. He considered Pete Carroll his mentor,

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01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: and replacing his longtime mentor he believed was too good

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: of an opportunity to pass up. He said Coote, I

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01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 2: felt like I loved the time at Kent Tennessee, but

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Speaker 2: I love the people there. But I just can't watch

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Speaker 2: USC for years on TV and say, man, I had

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01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,640
Speaker 2: that job and said no, And whether I was right

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01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 2: or wrong, that's just how I So Lane Kiffin does

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Speaker 2: what Lane Kiffin wants next up on the on the

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Speaker 2: on the Debacle Tree. Yes, we'll go to Alabama and yes,

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Speaker 2: or check that, check that we're not done with the USC.

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Speaker 14: He hasn't.

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:21,719
Speaker 3: We hasn't finished at SC. That ended like a twenty

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Speaker 3: car pile up as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fraddlewor Kemedy line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: Keep it locked.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back at the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Company. Line from the Foxworths Radio Studios here and

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01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:40,639
Speaker 2: Las Vegas will take you up to three am Pacific,

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01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: six am Eastern, top of the hour, two am Pacific,

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01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: five am Eastern. I'm gonna try to connect with our

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: Columbus guy, Don Gessick, our Ohio State insider. He was

2229
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 2: with us last year during the ride and looked sixteen

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01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 2: games later, sixteen wins in a row later after losing

2231
01:50:58,360 --> 01:50:58,799
Speaker 2: to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Look at those guys.

2233
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Now, we'll get you, get you some perspective from inside

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01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 2: the Avery Tower.

2235
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: At Ohio State.

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01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: Back on the Lane Kiffin timeline of debacle controversy as

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01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 2: it were. So, we told you what happened when he

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01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 2: got to the Raiders and left the Raiders. Told you

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01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 2: what happened when he left Tennessee and went to his

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Speaker 2: dream job, USA USC. Excuse me, Yeah, it didn't take long. Well,

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01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 2: he's five games into the twenty thirteen season, Lane Kiffin

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01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 2: was famously fired by then athletic director Pat Hayden at

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01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 2: Lax Airport after the team returned from getting blown out

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01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 2: by Arizona State, given up forty three points. The event

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01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 2: is referred to as quote the tarmac firing, and that

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01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,400
Speaker 2: may some people say that may have been the lowest

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01:51:51,479 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 2: point of Lane Kiffin's career because even though that got

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01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 2: blown out and the team was three and two, Kiffin

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01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: was very surprised that he got fired. He tried to

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Speaker 2: make the case to Pat Hayden to keep him. It

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01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,719
Speaker 2: didn't happen, USC and the leadership had already made their decision.

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01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 2: Kiffin ends up getting fired and who took over an

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01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: interim coach at Orgeron and in the remainder of the season,

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01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 2: as he started out three and two, he was actually

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Speaker 2: six and two. A footnote from that this seems like

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01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 2: a pittance compared to the biots these days, but according

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01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 2: to the Los Angeles Times, USC paid Lane Kiffen two

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01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: point seven million dollars in twenty fourteen, after a year

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01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: after he was fired. And the irony is is that

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01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Pat Hayden, the sitting athletic director, made two point nine million.

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Speaker 3: The next year the same year.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, well, after the Raiders are in the books,

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01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 2: the Tennessee volunteers are in the books, the USC Trojans

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 2: are in the books. Could it be he even runs

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01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,680
Speaker 2: a file a Nick Saban and Alabama was doing well,

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01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 2: so he become Kiffin kind of rehabilitated his career much

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01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 2: the same way Steve Sarkisky did.

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Speaker 3: Saban does that.

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01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: Kiffen joins Alabama as Saban's offensive coordinator. But again, once again,

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01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 2: it was another tenure that it did very abruptly. A

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01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: week before the twenty seventeen National championship game, Saban dismissed Kiffin,

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01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 2: reportedly due to concerns that Kiffin was distracted by his

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01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 2: new head coaching job that he'd already accepted at FAU.

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01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 2: So again, not there very long two years and in

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01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 2: about two you know, eighty percent of the next season,

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01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: and interestingly enough, they had success the Okay Obama won

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01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: the national title in twenty fifteen, and Kiffin presided over

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 2: multiple Alabama quarterbacks, including Jalen Hurts. But again, Kiffin's exit

2279
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 2: from Alabama during the twenty six the twenty sixteen season

2280
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:21,439
Speaker 2: once again was not smooth see because in early December

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01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 2: south from Ayer, he accepted the head coaching job at

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01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 2: Florida Atlantic while continuing to want to lead Alabama's offense

2283
01:54:29,000 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 2: as they prepared to face Washington in the semi finals

2284
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 2: that year in the Peach Bowl. Now Alabama ended up

2285
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 2: beating Washington twenty four to seven, and it was Kiffin's

2286
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 2: plan to split time between both jobs, but just about

2287
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 2: a week before the National championship game against Clemson later

2288
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 2: that month, Lane Kiffin simply announced he would leave the

2289
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 2: team to focus on Florida Atlantic, and he was quoted

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01:54:58,080 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 2: as saying, coach and I we I had some time

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01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:04,520
Speaker 2: together at the office, game planning in Atlanta, and then

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01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 2: again this morning, just bouncing some things around. I thought

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01:55:07,720 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 2: doing both jobs would be easier. But as I looked

2294
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,440
Speaker 2: at it, I rewatched the game a couple times and thought,

2295
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't think we played great.

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01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 3: Now those things happened. We still did some good things.

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01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 2: We ran the ball well, turn it over, call blah

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01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, just just gibberish, okay, But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, Kiffin left. Kiffin left, okay,

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01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 2: And on January second, twenty seventeen, I think he was

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01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 2: director of Communications. Josh Maxon at Alabama issued the following

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Speaker 2: press release, and this is worth hearing.

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01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I won't do the whole thing, but enough of it.

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Speaker 2: Dateline January second, twenty seventeen, TUSCA loose Alabama. University of

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01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 2: Alabama head coach Nick Saban announced Monday that incoming offensive

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01:55:55,840 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: coordinator Steve Sarkisian will assume his duties in advance of

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01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 2: the upcoming College Football Playoff National Championship Game. We appreciate

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01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 2: all that Land has done for our football program over

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01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 2: the last three years. We sat down following the Washington

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01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 2: game and talked about the time demands of managing both jobs.

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01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 2: We recognize it's best for our players and for Lane,

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01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 2: we allow him to turn his full attention to his

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01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,839
Speaker 2: new head coaching role at FIU. This wasn't an easy decision,

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01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: and we appreciate the way Laying handle it in terms

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01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 2: of doing what is best for our team. At the

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01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 2: end of the day, both of us wanted our players

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 2: in the best position to be successful. Obviously, we are

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: in a unique situation here.

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01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 3: We have our next.

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Speaker 2: Offensive coordator already on staff. We have full confidence that

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Speaker 2: sark will step in right away and make make this

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01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 2: a smooth transition after going through these Okay, same, it's

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01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 2: it's mischie goas so long, and the short of it

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01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: is Nick Saban because of the professional guy he is

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01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 2: handle it very professionally and without a lot of the

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01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 2: craziness that you're hearing right now. But you can't tell

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: me that that ended well. You can't tell me that

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01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 2: that was a comfortable situation. They're getting ready to play

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01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 2: for the National championship. I know there's no easy way

2330
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: to do these things, But how does a guy like

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01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, Kaylin de Borr manage to leave Washington fairly well,

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01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 2: seamlessly and end up with you know, Alabama.

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Speaker 3: I think it can be done.

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01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 2: Not every one of these departures ends up with an

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 2: f U kiffen like he heard at Tennessee, or a

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01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: pretty damning firing on the tarmac at USC by Pat Hayden,

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01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 2: a very respective guy, former quarterback on very good USC

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01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: teams and quarterback of the Rams who helped get a

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01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,920
Speaker 2: team to the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty, or the

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01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 2: situation with Al Davis. You would think that Lann Kiffin's career,

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01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, it started out so promising and by the way,

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01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: he's a son Monti Kiffin, a very respected coordinator in

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01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 2: the National Football League, the first ever a million dollar coordinator.

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01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 2: He's no longer with us. I'm told Monte Kiffin in

2345
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 2: his career had fifteen jobs. This is no Lane Kiffin's

2346
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 2: ninth job. And what's going to happen to Old Miss

2347
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 2: I really don't know. He may win there.

2348
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 3: I just think it's a He's.

2349
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 2: Going to be walking in to the biggest hot firestorm

2350
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 2: in the history of college football. It's tough down there, man,

2351
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 2: it's really tough. Saban left after winning a national championship.

2352
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Les Miles was fired after winning a national championship. At

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01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 2: Orgeron was fired after winning a national championship.

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Speaker 3: They didn't even wait for.

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01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:50,480
Speaker 2: You know, the current coach, don't even mean you mentioned

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Speaker 2: his name, the Southern accent, Brian Kelly, didn't wait for

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Speaker 2: his fourth year to finish.

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Speaker 3: So he's walking into a firestorm. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 2: Coming up, we take you out to Ohio State with

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Speaker 2: Columbus Don Let's talk about what it looked like from

2361
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes perspective. Keep it Locks, The Bernie Frattle Show,

2362
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:14,600
Speaker 3: It's right you heard the man. The Bernie Fraddle Show

2365
01:59:14,680 --> 01:59:16,560
Speaker 3: keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle, coming to your line from

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Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And after a terrific football

2368
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Speaker 2: game on Saturday, we're gonna go back to our guy

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Speaker 2: in Columbus who's been a staple Ohio State football joined

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Speaker 2: us last year.

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Speaker 3: Most of his predictions have come true.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Don Gessick, our Ohio insider from Columbus. Don,

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01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: Good morning, Thanks for getting up early as usual.

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01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,919
Speaker 7: Good morning to you as well, Bernie, thanks again.

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01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 3: For having I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Ohio State completely outmanned, outclassed, out coached Michigan on Saturday.

2377
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: I want to kind of come in from left field.

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01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:02,320
Speaker 2: Before the game. Dave Portnoy of Barstool Sports said, I

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Speaker 2: know a nervous man when I see him, Ryan Davis,

2380
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Speaker 2: Bryan Day looks nervous. Actually, I thought you were and

2381
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Speaker 2: more look nervous. What was your what were your thoughts

2382
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 2: if you could remember what they were right before kickoff?

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Speaker 7: Well, I got to say that Portnoy has become one

2384
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 7: of the most hated men in Columbus. Out there. He

2385
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Speaker 7: certainly has been a real Michigan booster, and so, you

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Speaker 7: know whatever, we believe that they handled this in a

2387
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 7: very professional manner, very adult. Frankly, there's more of a

2388
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Speaker 7: sense of relief than there is exultation about winning the game.

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Speaker 7: So it's again, they handled this in a very professional manner.

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Speaker 7: They move on, and so there there was obviously a

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Speaker 7: lot of nervousness before the game. You could tell that,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's a big deal here in Columbus when

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Speaker 7: they play Michigan. It's all the other games combined, aren't

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Speaker 7: as it don't cause as much anxiety as the Michigan

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Speaker 7: Michigan as well.

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Speaker 2: I certainly know that I covered fourteen of those while

2397
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Speaker 2: I was a resident of Michigan and then.

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Speaker 3: With WTT and CCBs radio.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I don't get, because it's become beyond silly,

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Speaker 2: the credit that Ryan Day just doesn't get. You know,

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02:01:21,320 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 2: don heading into the season, Ohio State lost eight players

2402
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 2: of the NFL. You lost your entire defensive line, both coordinators.

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Speaker 2: And since losing the Michigan day sixteen to zero, he's

2404
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Speaker 2: beaten Tennessee, who was ranked seventh, Oregon at one point,

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Speaker 2: who was first Texas first, Penn State third, Notre Dame fifth,

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Speaker 2: won a national championship and run the table this year.

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Speaker 2: What kind of respect does Ryan Day get inside the

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Speaker 2: average tower at Columbus.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, you and I and all of our

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Speaker 7: listeners heard what Saban said about people in Columbus needing

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Speaker 7: some help relatives to the anxiety that's created.

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Speaker 14: For the Michigan game.

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Speaker 7: It's, uh, you know, let's say it's the biggest game

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Speaker 7: of the year, and it's again, it's more of a

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Speaker 7: sense of relief and getting that in his review mirror,

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02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 7: and now they can move on and not listen to

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Speaker 7: any more Michigan rumors about how he hasn't won and

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Speaker 7: so forth. So it's it's again. It's it's more of

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Speaker 7: a relief and now we can move on and play

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Speaker 7: Indiana next week and uh and hopefully play again for

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Speaker 7: the back to back time.

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Speaker 3: Uh don uh.

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Speaker 2: I joked in my opening monologue that perhaps Michigan's best

2424
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 2: defensive stand was when they formed a wall around the

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Speaker 2: block m at midfield, as if Ohio State was going

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Speaker 2: to plant the flag the same way Michigan did last

2427
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Speaker 2: year in Columbus. I thought Ryan Day handled it really well.

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Speaker 2: And and so I think Seril mor did as well.

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Speaker 2: But what were your thoughts on that? Did Michigan look.

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Speaker 3: Desperate to you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the what's the takeaway there on Columbus

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Speaker 2: as to the way Michigan conducted themselves, not just losing

2433
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 2: the game, just sort of the way they conducted themselves

2434
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Speaker 2: with all the extracurriculars and what happened at the end

2435
02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:02,720
Speaker 2: of the game surrounding the block am and not.

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Speaker 3: Leaving the field.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've heard a couple of different rumors about

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Speaker 7: that too. Not only did they circle the block am,

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Speaker 7: but you know we heard as you know, there's only

2440
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Speaker 7: one portal that goes out, that's right, that's right, And

2441
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 7: you know we heard that Ohio State was jumping up

2442
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 7: in the stands and having a good time and celebrating

2443
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 7: it's over. Then they weren't going to the portal. So

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02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 7: therefore Michigan couldn't go in until Ohio State did, so

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Speaker 7: they were just kind of lulling around waiting for Ohio

2446
02:03:27,640 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 7: State to go in the portal as well. So that's

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Speaker 7: another rouver that we heard.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, then I then okay, then then I'm glad

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02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:38,320
Speaker 2: you're correcting. That because look, my mom went University of Michigan.

2450
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 2: I covered that team for a lot of years. I

2451
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 2: just felt to handle themselves in a bit of an

2452
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:45,320
Speaker 2: undignified fashion Saturday. But if I'm wrong, this is why

2453
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Speaker 2: we have you on. So is it possible. We know

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Speaker 2: that there are It's the same way at Notre Dame.

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02:03:51,720 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 2: It's it's clunky, but these old stadiums, you have one

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02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:57,520
Speaker 2: portal that both teams have to share coming on the

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02:03:57,560 --> 02:04:00,400
Speaker 2: field and coming off the field. Was that basically Michigan

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02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,280
Speaker 2: wanted to wait till Ohio State left the field first.

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Speaker 7: Well that's that's one of the rumors that we heard.

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02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 7: And again, you know, Ohigo State was having a good

2461
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 7: time jumping up in the stands and so forth that

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02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 7: they were going to go out there, and they made

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02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:14,280
Speaker 7: it pretty clear to his players before the game, during

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02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,080
Speaker 7: the game, and even immediately after the game. Look, I

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02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 7: don't want this plant to planting of a flag thing.

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Speaker 7: We're not doing that. We want to stand heads and shoulders.

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02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:22,960
Speaker 7: We want to Ohio State to be a program that

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02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:26,400
Speaker 7: doesn't do that kind of silliness and so forth. So

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Speaker 7: that's entirely possible, But you know it's I'm sure, you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that things came off. The whole day was

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Speaker 7: great for day, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking with Don Gessick, our Columbus insider Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Don most likely and by the way, I think Ohio

2474
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 2: State will be and as the odds on favorite to

2475
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 2: win the National championship again, they still.

2476
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Speaker 3: Got to do it. But I got to say, we'll

2477
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:53,320
Speaker 3: probably have you on again in January right before if

2478
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 3: they get to the National Championship game.

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Speaker 2: However this this shakes out, but one of the things

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02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 2: I want to focus on the Tails quarterbacks. They're both

2481
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 2: first year starters, they're both freshmen, have three years left

2482
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 2: of eligibility. We'll see where that goes.

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02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 15: Now.

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02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: I happen to like Bryce under what I think he

2485
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,920
Speaker 2: conducts himself well, but he has not nearly progressed to

2486
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:15,360
Speaker 2: what we thought in terms of the passing game, and

2487
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 2: they don't seem to let him do a hell of

2488
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 2: a lot. They're not getting their twelve million dollars worth

2489
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 2: that I can see. To this point, What is the

2490
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 2: honest viewpoint of Bryce Underwood in Columbus.

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02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 7: You know, the difference we believe is Brian Hartline, the

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02:05:32,720 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator for o High State's he's as good an

2493
02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:38,680
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator in college as you're gonna find. He's going

2494
02:05:38,760 --> 02:05:41,600
Speaker 7: to get tons of offers in the offseason for head

2495
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 7: coaching position. And he brought saying in slowly in the

2496
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 7: Texas game and then let him throw a few more

2497
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 7: passes in the next game. In the game after that,

2498
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 7: he moved him up in an offense that had wide

2499
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:56,960
Speaker 7: receivers like Kate and Smith, and certainly Michigan didn't have

2500
02:05:57,160 --> 02:06:02,800
Speaker 7: those types of wide receivers. So the offensive situation in

2501
02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:06,360
Speaker 7: the mindset for Michigan was more of a run oriented offense,

2502
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 7: as you're well aware, whereas Ohio State is swinging it

2503
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 7: and singing it and Jackson has turned out to be

2504
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,320
Speaker 7: a great running back for them to offset that passing offense.

2505
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 7: So you know, Underwood, you know, maybe Underwood would have

2506
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 7: moved along and matured a little bit different if he'd

2507
02:06:21,320 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 7: been in Ohio State's offense. But again, Ohio State has

2508
02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 7: an offensive coordinator that's second to none in college.

2509
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:31,360
Speaker 2: Talking with Don gessigar Ohio State in Saturday, you said

2510
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:36,560
Speaker 2: something last year about mid season, uh, and I'll never

2511
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:37,040
Speaker 2: forget it.

2512
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 3: You said.

2513
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 2: One of the teams in Ohio State has very much

2514
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 2: uh that that's really drawn the.

2515
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:44,760
Speaker 3: Attention of Ohio State.

2516
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 2: Again, this goes back to this goes back to probably

2517
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 2: Week five or six last year were the Indiana Hoosiers.

2518
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:57,200
Speaker 3: So the Buckeyes have the Hoosiers this Saturday.

2519
02:06:57,200 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 2: In the Big Ten Championship game. What are your thoughts

2520
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,640
Speaker 2: going into the game. Do you believe this will be

2521
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 2: Ohio State's toughest challenge? And on a scale of one

2522
02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 2: to ten, how how surprised would you be if, well,

2523
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, Indiana were to pull the upset.

2524
02:07:14,560 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 7: You know, it's going to be a fun game. If

2525
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 7: you're a fan and you have no skin in the game,

2526
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 7: it's going to be a fun game to watch. Both

2527
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:23,520
Speaker 7: teams will be winging it and zinging it. You'll see

2528
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 7: some scoring there. You know, it's an artificial turf, it's indoors,

2529
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:30,560
Speaker 7: you won't have the elements as a factor. It's going

2530
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:34,880
Speaker 7: to be fun. And you know, I'm sure that irregardless

2531
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 7: of who wins that game, you're probably going to be

2532
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 7: looking at ones and two seeds and so forth. So

2533
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 7: is it possible Indiana CoA beat?

2534
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:44,040
Speaker 14: I'm sure sure.

2535
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 7: I mean they're playing them at home.

2536
02:07:46,040 --> 02:07:47,400
Speaker 3: So well, it's good.

2537
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be in Indianapolis, Yes, and inside

2538
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 2: of dome, perfect conditions, as you say, yeah, look at

2539
02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 2: these things can happen, right, Just a Sile State team

2540
02:07:57,520 --> 02:07:58,840
Speaker 2: looks so buttoned up. One of the things I haven't

2541
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 2: even talked about is a defense in what Matt Patricia

2542
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:06,120
Speaker 2: has brought to the fold. They were giving up seven

2543
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:08,080
Speaker 2: points per game all year. They gave up nine to

2544
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 2: Michigan on Sunday. But I got to tell you, it

2545
02:08:11,560 --> 02:08:17,040
Speaker 2: feels like Matt Patricia is dialing up defenses and schemes

2546
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 2: and personnel groupings that are completely confusing college quarterbacks.

2547
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:23,640
Speaker 3: What's your game planner? What do you expect him to

2548
02:08:23,640 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 3: do against Indiana?

2549
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 7: You know he's great at adjusting at halftime. You saw

2550
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 7: yesterday that Michigan had the ball twice in the first

2551
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:34,560
Speaker 7: five minutes in the red zone and got a total

2552
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 7: of six points out of it. And anybody that has

2553
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 7: sen Ohio State play knew that Michigan had better score

2554
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 7: some points, some real points, some touchdowns in those first

2555
02:08:44,080 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 7: couple of drives, and we only got six points.

2556
02:08:46,440 --> 02:08:47,200
Speaker 18: That's bad news.

2557
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 7: And Patricia's great. I mean, he's been at every level

2558
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 7: he's been a Super Bowl winner, so he can adjust

2559
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 7: on the fly, and he certainly know Indiana. I'm sure

2560
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 7: we'll have some tricks for him, and they'll have some

2561
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 7: offensive SCHEMESOSSI believe that Ohio State hasn't seen this year,

2562
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:06,040
Speaker 7: But Patricia will adjust and adapt to so forth. And

2563
02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 7: he loves it here Into High State loves it here.

2564
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:15,040
Speaker 2: So I want to go back to Brian Hartline, and

2565
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 2: I would say this, You're right, he's probably gonna get

2566
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:20,320
Speaker 2: offers one of the names that's come up as Penn State.

2567
02:09:21,080 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 2: Uh do you think Heartline potentially ends up at Penn

2568
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 2: State last year?

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Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting that Penn State hasn't named a coach.

2570
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 7: I mean, you've heard some sketchy rumors as to who

2571
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,960
Speaker 7: their coach will be. But it's interesting how nothing really

2572
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:38,280
Speaker 7: has happened there and you haven't had any real deep

2573
02:09:38,360 --> 02:09:42,560
Speaker 7: seated rumors other than maybe Hardline. So you know, it's

2574
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 7: entirely possible that he would take that job. You know,

2575
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 7: it's Uh, it's it's tough to turn that turn down

2576
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 7: that type of money that he's going to be offered,

2577
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 7: So it's yeah, it's possible.

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02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 2: I want to go back to Julian saying, you duly

2579
02:09:56,680 --> 02:10:00,240
Speaker 2: credit Brian Hartline for his development, as saying, but this

2580
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 2: kid seems pretty special with his poise, his intelligence. And

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02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:08,000
Speaker 2: I played high school football in California. The next time

2582
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:10,840
Speaker 2: I hear a high school kid in California can't handle

2583
02:10:10,920 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 2: cold weather, I'm going to take a hostage.

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Speaker 3: Look what this kid has done with his poise. It's

2585
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:18,480
Speaker 3: not just his arm and his accuracy.

2586
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 2: What a find for Ohio State and what was what

2587
02:10:23,800 --> 02:10:27,120
Speaker 2: were Ohio State's thoughts and projecting the kind of success

2588
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:29,480
Speaker 2: he might be able to have this year, irrespective of

2589
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:31,680
Speaker 2: the fact that anywhere they're they were going to develop him.

2590
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting because early in the spring there

2591
02:10:35,360 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 7: was competition, a competition for the starting spot as far

2592
02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 7: as being the QB. And even Smith jumped in and

2593
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 7: talked about how sayans ball comes off his hand in

2594
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 7: a special way, that he loved the guy. And when

2595
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:53,400
Speaker 7: you've got Smith, the Date and the wide receivers talking

2596
02:10:53,440 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 7: about how special this quarterback is and how the ball

2597
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 7: comes off his hands. He's a very level headed kid.

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02:10:59,440 --> 02:11:02,320
Speaker 7: You talk to it in interviews, are just out and

2599
02:11:02,360 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 7: about and so forth. He's a very mature kid. He's

2600
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:08,360
Speaker 7: a very intelligent young man. So he's certainly going to

2601
02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 7: be sitting there in New York in a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think do you think he could win

2603
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 3: the Heisman?

2604
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they're undefeated, his numbers are crazy, he's completing

2605
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:18,240
Speaker 2: about eighty percent of his passes.

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02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:23,440
Speaker 7: Well, he you know, he had three more touchdowns again yesterday,

2607
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,800
Speaker 7: and you know, I had that one interception early in

2608
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 7: the game, which I would attribute to nerves, but three

2609
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 7: more touchdowns. He's still got this wide receivers. I mean,

2610
02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 7: he's going to be sitting there and he certainly is

2611
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 7: going to be among the top two or three selections

2612
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:39,400
Speaker 7: for the Heisman and so forth. So you know, if

2613
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 7: he wins it, great, If he doesn't, you know, he's

2614
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:44,040
Speaker 7: got another year next year that he absolutely will be back,

2615
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 7: and he absolutely will have Smith back as a wide receiver,

2616
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 7: so you know, and he's got another recruit coming in

2617
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 7: that's a five star wide receiver recruit, so he's going

2618
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 7: to be loaded again next year too. So yeah, he's

2619
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:54,680
Speaker 7: got a chance.

2620
02:11:55,360 --> 02:12:00,280
Speaker 2: Last question, don so, both Indiana and Ohio State will

2621
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 2: advance to the playoffs regardless of the outcome next Saturday,

2622
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 2: and it's possible the two could face each other again

2623
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:10,839
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But outside of Indiana, who's a legitimate concern?

2624
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 2: Who else makes you just a little bit edgy?

2625
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 3: Is it Oregon? Is it Texas A and M? Is

2626
02:12:16,320 --> 02:12:19,160
Speaker 3: it Alabama? Who's on the radar for Ohio State?

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02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 7: You know, all of them would be of concern, I

2628
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 7: would think, and Day has done a great job, a

2629
02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:29,680
Speaker 7: very professional job of keeping these kids focused, keeping them

2630
02:12:29,760 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 7: ready for games and so forth. So Oregon could be

2631
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 7: a challenge, you know, A and M had a bad game,

2632
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:38,320
Speaker 7: arguably could be called a bad game. Alabama, any of

2633
02:12:38,360 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 7: those teams could, you know, could challenge. But it's you know,

2634
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:43,960
Speaker 7: as long as Ohio State plays their game, as long

2635
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:46,240
Speaker 7: as they put on you know, even as urban Meyer

2636
02:12:46,360 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 7: was talking about yesterday before the game, you know, if

2637
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 7: Ohio State puts up twenty four points, it's going to

2638
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 7: be tough for anybody to meet them. With Patricia's defense.

2639
02:12:55,400 --> 02:12:58,200
Speaker 2: My god, they're giving up seven points a game, you know,

2640
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 2: and I mean I don't care who you planning to

2641
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:06,920
Speaker 2: sustain that for four months is unbelievable. Don great stuff.

2642
02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:10,160
Speaker 2: As always, Let's plan on getting you back in January.

2643
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:13,240
Speaker 2: Either way, we're gonna have a story either Ohio State's

2644
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 2: going to be the champ again or someone's gonna have

2645
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:18,040
Speaker 2: knocked off the champ, and that'll be your story in

2646
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:22,160
Speaker 2: and of itself. So appreciate all your input there coming

2647
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:23,360
Speaker 2: from Columbus.

2648
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,560
Speaker 7: Bernie. Thanks again. I always appreciate your time and you're

2649
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 7: talking to me.

2650
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:30,360
Speaker 3: Thank you all right, thanks a lot.

2651
02:13:32,080 --> 02:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're going to continue with the Bernie Frattle

2652
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:39,280
Speaker 2: Show with some more stuff happening around the world of sports.

2653
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:42,320
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2654
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2659
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2660
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2661
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Speaker 2: after we get off the year.

2662
02:14:05,920 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 3: You know.

2663
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:10,560
Speaker 2: Earlier in the show, we had our good friend Amal Shaw,

2664
02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 2: our NFL insider, join us, and he invoked the name

2665
02:14:17,280 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 2: JaMarcus Russell. JaMarcus Russell is infamous as people have labeled

2666
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:26,960
Speaker 2: him maybe the worst bust in history, and interestingly enough,

2667
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:30,440
Speaker 2: according to Lane Kiff, and he begged Al Davis to

2668
02:14:30,520 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 2: draft Calvin Johnson in two thousand and seven, but Al

2669
02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:36,560
Speaker 2: drafted JaMarcus Russell. And you know what happened next, Well,

2670
02:14:36,760 --> 02:14:41,920
Speaker 2: there's a quarterback currently playing in the National Football League.

2671
02:14:43,240 --> 02:14:47,760
Speaker 2: And well, if we're being honest and we're being fair,

2672
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 2: this particular gentleman, well he might be comparing favorably with

2673
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:55,440
Speaker 2: JaMarcus Russell.

2674
02:14:55,680 --> 02:14:58,680
Speaker 3: What am I saying? Well, JaMarcus Russell might be f

2675
02:14:58,760 --> 02:14:59,640
Speaker 3: the hook. We'll see.

2676
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:02,200
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2677
02:15:02,200 --> 02:15:03,440
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2678
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:05,440
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2679
02:15:05,480 --> 02:15:06,280
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2680
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2684
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:23,960
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2685
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 2: By the way, one final thing on Ryan Day in

2686
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:32,680
Speaker 2: case you missed it. Saturday, Ryan Day coached his ninety

2687
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 2: second game as Ohio State's head coach.

2688
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 3: Now Urban Meyer also.

2689
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:43,360
Speaker 2: Coached ninety two games at Ohio State. He's pretty highly

2690
02:15:43,440 --> 02:15:47,640
Speaker 2: regarded there and won a national title. Urban Meyer in

2691
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,720
Speaker 2: those ninety two games won eighty three. He was eighty

2692
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 2: three and nine. Well, guess what Ryan Day is eighty

2693
02:15:54,640 --> 02:15:59,840
Speaker 2: two and ten won one less game than urban Meyer.

2694
02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:03,080
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's been some up and down moments, but

2695
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:07,040
Speaker 2: for the most part, to not give this guy his flowers.

2696
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 2: It's just a little city silly. Maybe you have a

2697
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 2: different agenda, but people are entitled their opinion. By the way, again,

2698
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:15,360
Speaker 2: I'll remind everybody if you miss any of tonight's show,

2699
02:16:16,200 --> 02:16:19,720
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2700
02:16:19,800 --> 02:16:22,120
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2701
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,640
Speaker 2: Tonight's podcast will be posted. Be sure to follow the

2702
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2703
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2704
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:36,560
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2705
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 2: off the air. All right, JaMarcus Russell's names come up

2706
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:45,880
Speaker 2: a couple of times. Tonight, my guy, I'm all shaw,

2707
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:50,000
Speaker 2: he's entertaining guy brought the name up, and I brought

2708
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:53,320
Speaker 2: it up again because apparently in two thousand and seven,

2709
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 2: that's the second of the last year I did the

2710
02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:57,840
Speaker 2: Lion's post game show pre and post I remember we

2711
02:16:57,959 --> 02:17:00,520
Speaker 2: drafted the line. I didn't the Lion's draft to Calvin

2712
02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:06,240
Speaker 2: Johnson that year, but apparently Lane Kiffin wanted Calvin Johnson,

2713
02:17:06,800 --> 02:17:13,000
Speaker 2: but Al Davis drafted JaMarcus Russell, which fortunately, unfortunately he'd

2714
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:15,400
Speaker 2: become kind of a Punchline is one of the biggest

2715
02:17:15,440 --> 02:17:16,320
Speaker 2: busts of all time.

2716
02:17:16,640 --> 02:17:18,560
Speaker 3: But is he the guy?

2717
02:17:18,600 --> 02:17:20,880
Speaker 2: Got no beef with JJ McCarthy. He seems like a

2718
02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 2: solid individual and his career it started slow and now

2719
02:17:25,680 --> 02:17:29,120
Speaker 2: it's fading. I mean, missed the first year completely with

2720
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:33,000
Speaker 2: an injury. He's been injured again this year, but he's

2721
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:39,480
Speaker 2: been incredibly inconsistent. Well, he's basically had six starts six

2722
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 2: career games. In his first six career games, JJ McCarthy's

2723
02:17:47,600 --> 02:17:50,439
Speaker 2: thrown for nine hundred and twenty nine yards, six touchdowns,

2724
02:17:50,840 --> 02:17:54,520
Speaker 2: ten interceptions, had a completion rate of fifty four percent

2725
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 2: fifty four point one to be exactly, be exact, and

2726
02:17:58,800 --> 02:18:02,920
Speaker 2: a passer rating of fifty seven point nine. All right,

2727
02:18:02,920 --> 02:18:08,680
Speaker 2: Remember the JaMarcus Russell guy we talked about. Well, in

2728
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:12,879
Speaker 2: his first six games, he actually passed for one hundred

2729
02:18:12,879 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 2: and twenty two yards more than JJ McCarthy one hundred

2730
02:18:16,920 --> 02:18:20,040
Speaker 2: and fifty one versus nine twenty nine, throwing for about

2731
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 2: the same number of touchdowns five McCarthy s six, but

2732
02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:29,560
Speaker 2: McCarthy had ten interceptions and JaMarcus Russell only had three,

2733
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:33,000
Speaker 2: two for one thousand and fifty one five tds, three interceptions.

2734
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,400
Speaker 2: JaMarcus Russell's completion rate nothing to write home about, fifty

2735
02:18:38,440 --> 02:18:43,160
Speaker 2: four point five percent JJ McCarthy's fifty four point one percent,

2736
02:18:43,879 --> 02:18:47,280
Speaker 2: but the passer rating JaMarcus Russell seventy six point nine

2737
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:53,840
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy fifty seven point nine. So we're doing quarterback

2738
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:57,160
Speaker 2: comparisons all over the map tonight, and as we wrap

2739
02:18:57,320 --> 02:19:02,520
Speaker 2: up the show, we're actually going to have another quarterback comparison,

2740
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:11,000
Speaker 2: and that's going to be well Shador Sanders versus Dylan Gabriel.

2741
02:19:11,959 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 2: Now what's interesting is in Sudore is going to get

2742
02:19:14,640 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 2: a second start, who's the better quarterback? You already know my.

2743
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:24,199
Speaker 3: Opinion, But if we're being honest, here's really the situation.

2744
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:27,320
Speaker 3: I think.

2745
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:31,920
Speaker 2: Rookie, you know, they're both rookies, should or seen as

2746
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:36,400
Speaker 2: the more creative talent, better off script, while Dylan Gabriel's

2747
02:19:36,440 --> 02:19:41,920
Speaker 2: viewed more experienced, safe system oriented player, and I expect

2748
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:46,240
Speaker 2: Sanders to likely be the starter for the remainder of

2749
02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 2: the year. And in a minute, I'm gonna give I'll

2750
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:57,320
Speaker 2: tell you what I'm gonna give the numbers. Now, remember Gabriel,

2751
02:19:57,360 --> 02:20:01,400
Speaker 2: they both won one game, but give started seven games

2752
02:20:01,480 --> 02:20:06,080
Speaker 2: and Shador has only played two. Or actually Gabriel's been

2753
02:20:06,120 --> 02:20:08,760
Speaker 2: an eight. I think he started six. And I'm gonna

2754
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:11,960
Speaker 2: give you the numbers because you might be a little surprised.

2755
02:20:12,920 --> 02:20:17,000
Speaker 2: All right, I would say Shador Sanders made the most

2756
02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,199
Speaker 2: of his opportunities last week. He's got the yit factor,

2757
02:20:20,520 --> 02:20:24,200
Speaker 2: he's got a flair for the dramatic, he's de seed.

2758
02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:26,480
Speaker 2: The team played. He seemed to play with real good

2759
02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:29,040
Speaker 2: energy around him. But again, how much can you really

2760
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 2: take away? Because come on, it was with all due respect,

2761
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:34,600
Speaker 2: it was against the Raiders. We'll see what Shador does

2762
02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:40,520
Speaker 2: Sunday later today at home against the forty nine ers.

2763
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:44,000
Speaker 2: And again, the play of the shifted everything was when

2764
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:47,920
Speaker 2: he rolled or was right. I saw the receiver streaking downfield.

2765
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:49,480
Speaker 2: The other rookie threw the ball up and it was

2766
02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 2: a good play. But what slays me is when he

2767
02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:54,520
Speaker 2: they didn't det up due a lot. They kept taking

2768
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 2: him out on the ten yard line. Why would you

2769
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:59,959
Speaker 2: do that, and then he throws a five yard pass

2770
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:01,879
Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage. He got run sixty six

2771
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:05,199
Speaker 2: yards and that adds to his pass per a tamp total,

2772
02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:08,119
Speaker 2: which was really kind of skewed. Okay, so one game

2773
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 2: does not a season to make. Let's see what she

2774
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 2: Door Sanders does from here. And he said some things

2775
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:16,720
Speaker 2: before the game and after the game that don't appear

2776
02:21:16,760 --> 02:21:20,720
Speaker 2: to be confidence. They appear to be arrogance. But look,

2777
02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 2: on balance, I think Schodor Sanders has handed himself pretty well.

2778
02:21:24,120 --> 02:21:26,640
Speaker 2: He didn't bitch him own about being drafted late. He

2779
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:29,280
Speaker 2: went to work obviously, and now he listened. He's got

2780
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:33,000
Speaker 2: a chance. But I'm going to compare there's a season

2781
02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,960
Speaker 2: statistics comparison and give a little bit more of a

2782
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:40,440
Speaker 2: scouting report and analysis comparing both of them coming up.

2783
02:21:40,959 --> 02:21:43,480
Speaker 2: But first, hey, we're one hundred and ninety three days

2784
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 2: away from World Cup Soccer. It's that time again, time

2785
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:49,200
Speaker 2: for CHRISP. Perfett's World of Soccer.

2786
02:21:50,720 --> 02:22:07,000
Speaker 4: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, international drum. It's all

2787
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:10,000
Speaker 4: here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2788
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:12,600
Speaker 24: So as we wait here for the Major League Soccer

2789
02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:16,600
Speaker 24: MLS Cup final coming up here on Saturday, December the sixth.

2790
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 24: There is something that took that earlier in the month,

2791
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:23,200
Speaker 24: took news from the MLS Cup playoffs away from it

2792
02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:26,320
Speaker 24: that really spoke to me, and that was the fact

2793
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:30,320
Speaker 24: that the MLS Board of Governors earlier in November voted

2794
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:34,520
Speaker 24: to change the league's schedule to a full format. This

2795
02:22:34,680 --> 02:22:38,320
Speaker 24: basically means that MLS would fall in line with other

2796
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:43,439
Speaker 24: leagues around the world, like the Premier League and Bundesliga

2797
02:22:43,520 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 24: and everyone who plays in Europe. So right now, you

2798
02:22:47,240 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 24: know MLS begins right now in spring. Now it would

2799
02:22:52,280 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 24: begin in mid July. It would take a winter break

2800
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:58,760
Speaker 24: around mid December, which is probably a great idea because

2801
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:03,240
Speaker 24: you know, we've got teams in the North and sometimes

2802
02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:05,760
Speaker 24: it's hard to play games up there, especially when you

2803
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:09,200
Speaker 24: don't have the mild winters of something like a Europe.

2804
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,840
Speaker 24: But then it would restart in the third week of February,

2805
02:23:13,520 --> 02:23:16,879
Speaker 24: notably avoiding Super Bowl week. And that I can't help

2806
02:23:16,959 --> 02:23:20,160
Speaker 24: but notice here before we really get into the deeper implications,

2807
02:23:20,480 --> 02:23:24,680
Speaker 24: is at the very least in a North American sports landscape,

2808
02:23:24,760 --> 02:23:29,360
Speaker 24: it does mean that MLS stops spending its crunch time

2809
02:23:29,440 --> 02:23:31,840
Speaker 24: at the end of the season and its playoff format

2810
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:36,400
Speaker 24: in the MLS Cup competing against college football and the NFL.

2811
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:40,800
Speaker 24: MLS Cup playoffs have been largely irrelevant because it's going

2812
02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:45,200
Speaker 24: on on Saturdays and Sundays where you're watching American football.

2813
02:23:45,640 --> 02:23:47,720
Speaker 24: Did you see the end for the race for the

2814
02:23:47,720 --> 02:23:50,240
Speaker 24: supporter Shield. No, a lot of people did not, because

2815
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 24: you're competing with football. It starts out good for MLS

2816
02:23:53,959 --> 02:23:57,520
Speaker 24: in the summertime when all your competition really is is baseball,

2817
02:23:57,760 --> 02:24:00,480
Speaker 24: but then it gets a little janky after that, and

2818
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:03,279
Speaker 24: it doesn't really bring in a lot of other watchers

2819
02:24:03,440 --> 02:24:09,280
Speaker 24: from other markets because again it's such counterprogramming too other

2820
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:12,280
Speaker 24: leagues around the world because of how they play in

2821
02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:16,360
Speaker 24: this schedule. Now, the bigger ramification of this for MLS

2822
02:24:16,440 --> 02:24:19,640
Speaker 24: itself is that it will get to be able to

2823
02:24:19,720 --> 02:24:23,080
Speaker 24: partake in the European transfer market, those windows that open

2824
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:26,960
Speaker 24: up in UEFA and other leagues around the world, thus

2825
02:24:27,640 --> 02:24:31,040
Speaker 24: probably being able to get talent at better times of

2826
02:24:31,040 --> 02:24:34,200
Speaker 24: the year and also being able to sell talent to

2827
02:24:34,480 --> 02:24:37,160
Speaker 24: Europe and bringing in some cash that you might need

2828
02:24:37,480 --> 02:24:39,640
Speaker 24: for other deals down the line, or just to make

2829
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:42,360
Speaker 24: yourself more appealing as far as being part of this

2830
02:24:42,480 --> 02:24:47,320
Speaker 24: ecosystem having that exchange with clubs over in England and Germany.

2831
02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:50,800
Speaker 24: Those two nations in particular, along with Italy, do feature

2832
02:24:50,879 --> 02:24:54,720
Speaker 24: quite a few Americans playing at different level. Leeds has

2833
02:24:54,800 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 24: always been a big provider of American talent.

2834
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:01,360
Speaker 5: You see them in Italy. Christian pulasitch right now playing

2835
02:25:01,400 --> 02:25:01,800
Speaker 5: in Italy.

2836
02:25:02,200 --> 02:25:05,200
Speaker 24: Germany has been the home for several Americans as well,

2837
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:07,879
Speaker 24: so this all kind of works out a little bit better,

2838
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:12,440
Speaker 24: especially as MLS wants to compete for more European talent,

2839
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:16,000
Speaker 24: having brought in Lionel Messi and now paying a massive

2840
02:25:16,120 --> 02:25:19,120
Speaker 24: salary to some hung Men which is only second to

2841
02:25:19,200 --> 02:25:23,680
Speaker 24: Leonel Messi's deal right now in MLS. The bigger change

2842
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:27,280
Speaker 24: too that's coming is we right now have East West

2843
02:25:27,360 --> 02:25:32,240
Speaker 24: divisions in MLS, which aligns itself with sports like NBA

2844
02:25:32,680 --> 02:25:35,400
Speaker 24: and the NHL. That's going to be gone and once

2845
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:38,920
Speaker 24: again we are taking a much more soccer specific approach.

2846
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,440
Speaker 24: There is one table one to thirty. That's pretty massive

2847
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:46,360
Speaker 24: considering most European tables are only about twenty teams or so,

2848
02:25:46,920 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 24: but that's kind of the size of the league you have,

2849
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:52,720
Speaker 24: and you don't really partner with USL and you're not

2850
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:56,120
Speaker 24: really open right now to promotion relegation, but that single

2851
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:59,959
Speaker 24: table will feature five sixteen regional divisions, with teams playing

2852
02:26:00,120 --> 02:26:03,360
Speaker 24: each of their division rivals twice home and away and

2853
02:26:03,480 --> 02:26:06,119
Speaker 24: every other team in the league once, so it will

2854
02:26:06,600 --> 02:26:09,120
Speaker 24: kind of make a lot more sense of a schedule.

2855
02:26:09,520 --> 02:26:11,160
Speaker 5: This is going to be a little tricky for MLS

2856
02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:11,760
Speaker 5: to pull off.

2857
02:26:12,440 --> 02:26:15,800
Speaker 24: It will It's not going to happen until twenty twenty seven,

2858
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:20,160
Speaker 24: at which point there will be a shortened season at

2859
02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:23,400
Speaker 24: the beginning of that year and then start the full

2860
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:26,959
Speaker 24: season under the new format in July of twenty twenty seven.

2861
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 24: Now is sheoed around twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight?

2862
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:33,119
Speaker 24: When was when the USL, the United Soccer League kind

2863
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:35,360
Speaker 24: of the second tier in this country, but that also

2864
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:37,880
Speaker 24: includes the third, fourth, and fifth tier because they have

2865
02:26:37,959 --> 02:26:42,279
Speaker 24: a whole pyramid was set to implement promotion and relegation.

2866
02:26:42,640 --> 02:26:46,440
Speaker 24: No clue if USL will follow MLS into the fall format,

2867
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 24: but either way, USL has always been a lot more

2868
02:26:49,160 --> 02:26:52,600
Speaker 24: grassroots for these kind of things, whereas MLS is now

2869
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:56,160
Speaker 24: at this point thirty teams. It's really hard to justify

2870
02:26:56,280 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 24: further expansion and a lot of money came to MLS

2871
02:26:59,800 --> 02:27:02,880
Speaker 24: four those expansion fees, a lot of money. Now the

2872
02:27:02,959 --> 02:27:06,000
Speaker 24: next big thing for them it's not just competing trying

2873
02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:09,400
Speaker 24: to avoid competing against football in this country. It is

2874
02:27:09,560 --> 02:27:13,640
Speaker 24: taking advantage of that global transfer market. That money will

2875
02:27:13,720 --> 02:27:17,120
Speaker 24: be huge. I think there's some very interesting implications for that.

2876
02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:19,440
Speaker 24: I don't know if it all means it's great for

2877
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:22,640
Speaker 24: MLS as far as bringing in talent. I could see

2878
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:25,880
Speaker 24: them be much more about selling to try to take

2879
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:29,840
Speaker 24: advantage of some hot upcoming American soccer players to send

2880
02:27:29,879 --> 02:27:31,920
Speaker 24: them over to Europe. But we have to see and

2881
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:35,480
Speaker 24: ultimately it's just opened up a lot more opportunities for

2882
02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:39,520
Speaker 24: MLS to be part of the global game and better

2883
02:27:39,640 --> 02:27:42,000
Speaker 24: aligning itself by better aligning its calendar.

2884
02:27:42,040 --> 02:27:44,320
Speaker 5: I like the move a lot injured to see where

2885
02:27:44,680 --> 02:27:45,800
Speaker 5: MLS will go from here.

2886
02:27:46,280 --> 02:27:48,760
Speaker 24: We'll talk next time about the MLS Cup final and

2887
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:51,480
Speaker 24: where Europe stands next time on the World of Soccer.

2888
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:57,360
Speaker 2: All right, one hundred and ninety three days until World

2889
02:27:57,440 --> 02:27:59,600
Speaker 2: Cup is here. It's going to come fast and furious.

2890
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:04,080
Speaker 2: When this whole segments started back in consh she gets

2891
02:28:04,120 --> 02:28:08,160
Speaker 2: just twenty twenty two and the World Cup dates were

2892
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:10,960
Speaker 2: later in the year. That year, the USA played England

2893
02:28:11,120 --> 02:28:15,680
Speaker 2: on Black Friday. Coming up, we wrap up the show.

2894
02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:21,360
Speaker 2: Actually one more bit of bad news involving LSU, and

2895
02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:23,959
Speaker 2: then we'll take a quick look. Hey, while we're comparing quarterbacks,

2896
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:30,560
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy to Jmarcus Russell and Julian sayin to Bryce Underwood,

2897
02:28:30,840 --> 02:28:34,760
Speaker 2: how about one more Shoudors Sanders and Dylan Gabriel. I'm

2898
02:28:34,800 --> 02:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We are coming to you live from the

2899
02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked you

2900
02:28:42,000 --> 02:28:43,959
Speaker 2: listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2901
02:28:46,320 --> 02:28:48,119
Speaker 2: I will wrap it up on the Bernie Fraddle Show.

2902
02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 2: I want to thank my producers, Mark and Brianna for

2903
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:53,760
Speaker 2: other hard work keeping us in on the air, managing

2904
02:28:53,840 --> 02:28:55,240
Speaker 2: the clock, the callers, everything.

2905
02:28:55,520 --> 02:28:56,440
Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.

2906
02:28:59,160 --> 02:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Before I get to the comparison between Shudur and Dylan Gabriel,

2907
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:10,680
Speaker 2: more not so good news for LSU. If you recall,

2908
02:29:11,360 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 2: LSU fired Brian Kelly October twenty sixth, one day after

2909
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:20,800
Speaker 2: they lost at home to Texas A and M. Kelly

2910
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:27,600
Speaker 2: then sued LSU. Two weeks later after his buyout, Kelly

2911
02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:30,640
Speaker 2: set in a lawsuit that LSU had told him he'd

2912
02:29:30,680 --> 02:29:33,640
Speaker 2: been fired from his job. He'd later filed the lawsuit

2913
02:29:33,720 --> 02:29:38,200
Speaker 2: alleging that the school was trying to find cause for

2914
02:29:38,280 --> 02:29:41,480
Speaker 2: the firing to avoid paying Brian Kelly the money he

2915
02:29:41,720 --> 02:29:43,119
Speaker 2: was owed on his contract.

2916
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, Kelly won that one. He secured the final.

2917
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Victory against LSU or with LSU, or depending on how

2918
02:29:53,520 --> 02:29:57,920
Speaker 2: you look at it. LSU informed Brian Kelly in writing

2919
02:29:57,959 --> 02:30:00,880
Speaker 2: three days ago that he is, in fact has been

2920
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:04,080
Speaker 2: fired without costs. The letter was sent to Kelly by

2921
02:30:04,760 --> 02:30:08,360
Speaker 2: LSU president Wayne rows At states LSU will pay out

2922
02:30:08,440 --> 02:30:11,160
Speaker 2: Kelly's contract in full. They made it clear in the

2923
02:30:11,240 --> 02:30:14,199
Speaker 2: letter that Kelly has a contractual obligation, though to seek

2924
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:17,360
Speaker 2: a new job. If you follow any of this, I

2925
02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:23,199
Speaker 2: mean this basically means LSU owes Kelly his full fifty

2926
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:30,039
Speaker 2: four million dollar buyout. Apparently, LSU had offered Brian Kelly

2927
02:30:30,080 --> 02:30:32,280
Speaker 2: two lump sum payments to settle his contract. First, they

2928
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:36,040
Speaker 2: offered him twenty five million with no offset language, and

2929
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:38,080
Speaker 2: then offered him thirty million to be paid out in

2930
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:42,360
Speaker 2: two installments. Kelly declined those offers, so now it looks

2931
02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:45,560
Speaker 2: like he's going to receive nine million annually between now

2932
02:30:45,760 --> 02:30:48,120
Speaker 2: and twenty thirty one. But if Brian Kelly finds a

2933
02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:51,160
Speaker 2: new job, whatever he earns would be offset against the

2934
02:30:51,240 --> 02:30:55,640
Speaker 2: nine million per year he's owned. So whatever you want

2935
02:30:55,680 --> 02:30:58,680
Speaker 2: to call it, a game of Shenanigans, Brian Kelly won.

2936
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:05,200
Speaker 2: I guess LSU's not happy about the way any of

2937
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,880
Speaker 2: this ended. Kelly, by the way, when thirty four and

2938
02:31:07,959 --> 02:31:10,720
Speaker 2: fourteen and four seasons at LSU and he was five

2939
02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:14,480
Speaker 2: and three this season, you know, will Lane Kiffin have

2940
02:31:14,640 --> 02:31:17,800
Speaker 2: the success that they wanted to have assuming he goes

2941
02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:21,600
Speaker 2: there again, it's early Sunday. Anything can happen with this guy.

2942
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:28,000
Speaker 2: But assuming Lane Kiffin goes to LSU, well, Nick Saban

2943
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:33,600
Speaker 2: won a championship his fourth year, Less Miles won a

2944
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:36,880
Speaker 2: championship his fourth year and then was fired. And at

2945
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:39,120
Speaker 2: Origin I won a championship and his fourth year and

2946
02:31:39,200 --> 02:31:41,600
Speaker 2: then was fired. Kelly didn't make it through his fourth year.

2947
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:46,360
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with Lane Kiffen. All right, So

2948
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:49,360
Speaker 2: Sunday later on to day, we're just a few hours

2949
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:55,240
Speaker 2: away from Schudoor Sanders making his second start as a

2950
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,200
Speaker 2: National League National Football League quarterback with the Cleveland Browns.

2951
02:32:00,040 --> 02:32:04,480
Speaker 2: When you compare, well, I'll tell you. Let's just for

2952
02:32:04,560 --> 02:32:06,680
Speaker 2: the hell of it, let's compare the numbers. Now again,

2953
02:32:06,760 --> 02:32:10,440
Speaker 2: Sanders has only played two games. He is credited with

2954
02:32:10,480 --> 02:32:13,440
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty six passing yards, but one of

2955
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:15,400
Speaker 2: them travel three yards in the year behind the line

2956
02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:17,840
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, or maybe five yards in a year. And

2957
02:32:17,879 --> 02:32:19,280
Speaker 2: it was a hell of a run by the player.

2958
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 2: As the Raiders stood by like a like they look

2959
02:32:22,560 --> 02:32:25,959
Speaker 2: like it was a bullfight, and they were ola letting

2960
02:32:25,959 --> 02:32:27,160
Speaker 2: the guy run to the end zone. It was a

2961
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:30,520
Speaker 2: hell of a run though, sixty six yards. So really,

2962
02:32:30,600 --> 02:32:33,440
Speaker 2: you know he gets credit for those two hundred and

2963
02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:35,280
Speaker 2: fifty six to sixty six, Well, you get it.

2964
02:32:35,879 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 3: For the records.

2965
02:32:36,480 --> 02:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Shoot or is throwing one touchdown passes, two interceptions. His

2966
02:32:39,240 --> 02:32:42,400
Speaker 2: completion percentage is forty one percent. His QB rating is

2967
02:32:42,480 --> 02:32:46,480
Speaker 2: fifty two point five. Now, Gabriel's had six games. He's

2968
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:48,360
Speaker 2: passed for a niner and thirty seven yards. He's throwing

2969
02:32:48,440 --> 02:32:53,000
Speaker 2: for seven touchdown passes, two interceptions. He's completing fifty nine

2970
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:56,840
Speaker 2: percent of his passes, and his QB rating is about

2971
02:32:56,879 --> 02:32:57,440
Speaker 2: eighty one.

2972
02:32:58,240 --> 02:32:59,240
Speaker 3: What does that mean? I don't know.

2973
02:32:59,360 --> 02:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Let's compare and apples after Shoodoor Sanders has seven games

2974
02:33:04,440 --> 02:33:05,480
Speaker 2: under his belt as well.

2975
02:33:05,959 --> 02:33:06,640
Speaker 3: We shall see.

2976
02:33:06,680 --> 02:33:10,360
Speaker 2: As I said earlier, I think shud Or Sanders made

2977
02:33:10,400 --> 02:33:11,599
Speaker 2: the most of his opportunity.

2978
02:33:12,280 --> 02:33:13,400
Speaker 3: He has the yit factor.

2979
02:33:14,640 --> 02:33:17,880
Speaker 2: The energy the Browns played around him was admirable, and

2980
02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:19,360
Speaker 2: I think he's got a flare for the dramatic.

2981
02:33:19,520 --> 02:33:22,039
Speaker 3: I am nowhere there yet convinced he's a major league quarterback.

2982
02:33:22,480 --> 02:33:24,240
Speaker 3: It's going to be a while. Can he prove me wrong?

2983
02:33:24,360 --> 02:33:24,560
Speaker 8: Sure?

2984
02:33:25,640 --> 02:33:26,240
Speaker 3: Sure he can't.

2985
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:29,680
Speaker 2: But now, based on what I've seen, that's an objective viewpoint,

2986
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:33,760
Speaker 2: not a fanboy viewpoint, not a subjective viewpoint. Am I

2987
02:33:33,840 --> 02:33:35,640
Speaker 2: rooting for shoot Or to fail? What the hell would

2988
02:33:35,640 --> 02:33:37,080
Speaker 2: I do that for? How do I benefit from that?

2989
02:33:39,280 --> 02:33:41,160
Speaker 2: As I've always I've mentioned under Dick shapp a root

2990
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:44,440
Speaker 2: for the story. What would really be the story? Hell,

2991
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:46,880
Speaker 2: Cleveland goes on a winning streak, wins five of the

2992
02:33:46,959 --> 02:33:49,760
Speaker 2: next game, you know, the next five games, that would

2993
02:33:49,760 --> 02:33:52,400
Speaker 2: be a story. Shood Or wins the job out of

2994
02:33:52,440 --> 02:33:55,000
Speaker 2: camp next year and leads, that would be a story,

2995
02:33:55,240 --> 02:33:57,720
Speaker 2: not washing out like most fifth round quarterbacks do.

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02:33:58,720 --> 02:34:00,880
Speaker 3: So let's see what happens. But if you want to

2997
02:34:00,920 --> 02:34:04,880
Speaker 3: compare the two look, Schnor Sanders he's more of an artist. Okay.

2998
02:34:05,680 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 2: Does he make plays outside the offensive structure? Does he

2999
02:34:09,000 --> 02:34:12,160
Speaker 2: make offscript you know, playmaking? Does he involve himself with that?

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02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:18,320
Speaker 3: Yes? There are questions though about his pocket movement and

3001
02:34:18,480 --> 02:34:18,959
Speaker 3: arm strength.

3002
02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:21,440
Speaker 2: That's a fact. These are scouts saying it. Not me,

3003
02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:25,760
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel is not an artist. He's more of a scientist.

3004
02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:29,960
Speaker 2: He plays within the offensive structure, within the offensive framework.

3005
02:34:30,480 --> 02:34:32,640
Speaker 2: He had a hell of a much more impressive resume

3006
02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:36,560
Speaker 2: in college at two big schools Oklahoma and Oregon. Dean

3007
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:39,279
Speaker 2: Sanders and Shoodoor Sanders were part of a major rebuild

3008
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:39,840
Speaker 2: in Colorado.

3009
02:34:39,840 --> 02:34:42,280
Speaker 3: But they stay. We're thirteen to twelve. Okay.

3010
02:34:42,959 --> 02:34:45,840
Speaker 2: But Gabriel is also known for his quick decisions. He's

3011
02:34:45,879 --> 02:34:49,160
Speaker 2: got a very high completion rate. He set an FBS

3012
02:34:49,240 --> 02:34:52,600
Speaker 2: record for career starts. He's got tons of experience. Although

3013
02:34:53,000 --> 02:34:58,200
Speaker 2: the critics point out he has, you know, an average

3014
02:34:58,280 --> 02:35:03,000
Speaker 2: depth of target shorter, and you know that could inflate stats,

3015
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:07,120
Speaker 2: just the way Shadors was inflated. So what's the bottom line.

3016
02:35:07,400 --> 02:35:10,879
Speaker 2: Gabriel basically has the edge and experience and consistency. He's

3017
02:35:10,920 --> 02:35:13,160
Speaker 2: better within a defiance system. I think he's more polished.

3018
02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:15,560
Speaker 2: I think he's every bit the passer, if not better.

3019
02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:18,640
Speaker 2: But there are folks who believe Sanders has the higher

3020
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:23,560
Speaker 2: ceiling and potentially more long term potential as an NFL starter.

3021
02:35:24,760 --> 02:35:26,840
Speaker 2: Now let's see him do it on the field. Maybe

3022
02:35:26,879 --> 02:35:29,680
Speaker 2: he will again, that would be the story. By the way,

3023
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:33,600
Speaker 2: not for nothing, somewhat flew under the radar because we

3024
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:37,280
Speaker 2: had so much craziness the Ohio State Michigan game and

3025
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:40,959
Speaker 2: all that was involved there, and of course the situation

3026
02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:43,040
Speaker 2: evolving Lane Kiffen, which had a way of kind of

3027
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:45,960
Speaker 2: hijacking the news cycle and still not done. You wait, Sunday,

3028
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:49,280
Speaker 2: it's going to be. It's going to lead everything because

3029
02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:55,840
Speaker 2: just to the dynamic. But Tuesday they will announce the

3030
02:35:56,480 --> 02:35:59,120
Speaker 2: second to last I guess they call it the penultimate Award.

3031
02:35:59,160 --> 02:36:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm not forbearing with that all of a sudden. Everybody

3032
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:04,360
Speaker 2: uses now the last two or three years in terms

3033
02:36:04,360 --> 02:36:06,880
Speaker 2: of the college football playoff and if they've been pretty

3034
02:36:06,879 --> 02:36:09,240
Speaker 2: accurate on these things, and I don't think anybody can

3035
02:36:09,360 --> 02:36:14,280
Speaker 2: argue that Ohio State won Indiana two, Georgia should be three,

3036
02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech should be four. That's the way they see it.

3037
02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:23,640
Speaker 2: They're projecting it and if that's the case, then all

3038
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:26,520
Speaker 2: four of those teams would have first round bys. Now,

3039
02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:29,119
Speaker 2: for what it's worth, all four teams are at first

3040
02:36:29,200 --> 02:36:32,240
Speaker 2: round bys last year lost. Now one of them was

3041
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:35,920
Speaker 2: Boise State. Nothing against Boise State, but Penn State kind

3042
02:36:35,959 --> 02:36:38,960
Speaker 2: of put a whooping on them. That would mean projectively,

3043
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:41,760
Speaker 2: it looks like if the season were at end today, Tulane,

3044
02:36:41,800 --> 02:36:44,039
Speaker 2: who's the American chap would be sort of the at

3045
02:36:44,160 --> 02:36:48,120
Speaker 2: large group of five entrant. They'd be a twelve seed

3046
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:51,800
Speaker 2: and they would have to visit Oregon. Oregon wouldn't get

3047
02:36:51,800 --> 02:36:55,880
Speaker 2: a first round by Virginia, Who's let's say they're the

3048
02:36:55,920 --> 02:36:59,200
Speaker 2: ACC champ. They're going to play Duke next week. They

3049
02:36:59,240 --> 02:37:00,879
Speaker 2: may not get in, I don't know. But if they're

3050
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:03,080
Speaker 2: the ACC champ, the committee doesn't let him in and

3051
02:37:03,120 --> 02:37:05,000
Speaker 2: you win the ACC, what are we doing here?

3052
02:37:05,360 --> 02:37:05,640
Speaker 3: Okay?

3053
02:37:06,240 --> 02:37:08,360
Speaker 2: Now, if Duke wins, it's a five lost team. You

3054
02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:10,960
Speaker 2: got to mess on your hands. But I thought this

3055
02:37:11,080 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 2: was supposed to be championship based. Either way, just for

3056
02:37:13,520 --> 02:37:15,400
Speaker 2: the hell of it, work would be let's say it's Virginia,

3057
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:19,760
Speaker 2: they would visit number six Texas A and m Alabama

3058
02:37:19,879 --> 02:37:21,880
Speaker 2: checks in at number ten. They'd have to go to

3059
02:37:22,000 --> 02:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Old Miss. Yeah, Old Miss is getting it. And even

3060
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:26,960
Speaker 2: if flat Kiffin leaves, that ought to be a story

3061
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:30,800
Speaker 2: in and of itself. Alabama versus Old Miss and then

3062
02:37:30,879 --> 02:37:35,160
Speaker 2: number nine Notre Dame at number eight Oklahoma where it

3063
02:37:35,240 --> 02:37:40,080
Speaker 2: goes for there is anybody's guests. Assuming Oregon wins, they

3064
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:43,840
Speaker 2: would face off against Texas Tech Texas M A and

3065
02:37:44,000 --> 02:37:46,959
Speaker 2: M would be the winner most likely.

3066
02:37:48,480 --> 02:37:50,560
Speaker 3: Check that out. They would not have a bye, but

3067
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:51,800
Speaker 3: most likely they would.

3068
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:54,200
Speaker 2: Be the winner of their game and they would face

3069
02:37:54,280 --> 02:37:57,240
Speaker 2: Georgia in the second round, and the Alabama Old Miss

3070
02:37:57,280 --> 02:37:59,280
Speaker 2: winner would face number two Indiana. That'd be worth the

3071
02:37:59,320 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 2: price of admission, and then Notre Dame in Oklahoma would

3072
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:04,800
Speaker 2: face number one Ohio State. So I am liking the

3073
02:38:04,840 --> 02:38:08,200
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff. I hope again the games on the

3074
02:38:08,280 --> 02:38:11,960
Speaker 2: field matter. That means whoever wins the SEC championship game.

3075
02:38:12,040 --> 02:38:14,119
Speaker 2: Grinn and Barrett, this is what she asked for. It's

3076
02:38:14,120 --> 02:38:17,680
Speaker 2: still better than the stupid made for TV Invitational tournament.

3077
02:38:18,320 --> 02:38:19,960
Speaker 2: And that's about all I got to say on that.

3078
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:22,760
Speaker 2: It's going to do it for the Bernie Frattle Show.

3079
02:38:22,840 --> 02:38:24,320
Speaker 2: And yes, of course we'll be back on this chair.

3080
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:27,040
Speaker 2: Next Saturday Night eleven pm. But in the meantime, stay

3081
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:30,320
Speaker 2: tuned for the great Andy Furman Fox Sports Radio