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Speaker 1: another edition of Big Facts. What's up people, everybody feeling
Speaker 1: I missed you all? Man? You missed us? Where we go?
Speaker 1: I missed a man? Where we go? I don't know?
Speaker 1: But wherever hell your word, y'all were truly missed in
Speaker 1: my heart man Likewise Jwise coming back again, but just
Speaker 1: be happy to be welcome. Cam Kirk Man, you're gonna
Speaker 1: kicking with us today. I mean you're familiar with Big Facts,
Speaker 1: so you know we're gonna get into whatever we need
Speaker 1: to get into. You know what I'm saying. I'm excited. Yeah, ready,
Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start with a little bit of bragging
Speaker 1: rights man, Oh, who all have you shot for? Who
Speaker 1: are is Cam Kirk shot for? It? Like, put some
Speaker 1: of them names out there because you're very, you know,
Speaker 1: very big part of a lot of people's image and
Speaker 1: their photography and everything, like or you can just say
Speaker 1: the world minus the world everybody like, Yeah, I've been blessed.
Speaker 1: I've had a blessed, a blessed career, nine years doing
Speaker 1: it UM. Most notably in music, I shot UM. I'm
Speaker 1: known for my work with Gucci, Man The Future, Young
Speaker 1: Scooter One, Savage, metro Booman, Ray Schremmer, Mike Will. Pretty
Speaker 1: much have had to honor to work where everybody coming
Speaker 1: out to a bigger, small and then on on a
Speaker 1: company standpoint, which I like to brag about more. It's
Speaker 1: like Nike, Adidas, Poma, Airbnb, Um, yeah yeah yeah for
Speaker 1: the money really yeah, what you really want to be
Speaker 1: at the NBA? Uh? Projects like that, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely super excited about as well. How do you start?
Speaker 1: How you start off a big number? Campra Man. I
Speaker 1: picked up a camera first because I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna be a party promoter. I was always going to
Speaker 1: be a concert thrower. So in college I booked with
Speaker 1: Khalifa for a concert It's two thou and ten, and
Speaker 1: I was really just working around to be honest, like
Speaker 1: I had never done anything UM in Atlanta. I was
Speaker 1: just a college student and I had this opportunity. I
Speaker 1: booked him. I took out a student loan and after
Speaker 1: the concert, like I was trying to take a picture
Speaker 1: with him, my phone was dead, all my friends had left.
Speaker 1: At this time, I was like cleaning up the space.
Speaker 1: And after that, I was just like, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go buy a camera. So next time I do event,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a camera. I'm gonna be able to
Speaker 1: take a picture with him. Guy's literally as far as
Speaker 1: I thought about it. And um, after I did that concert,
Speaker 1: a lot of local artists started to hit me up,
Speaker 1: like yo, who are you? What do you do? So
Speaker 1: I actually got into managing the artist. And then while
Speaker 1: enaging the artist, I was like, shoot, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: use this camera on you. And then from there, you know,
Speaker 1: I just found a way to make you know, fifty
Speaker 1: bucks a hunting bucks, just shooting him, his friends, other people,
Speaker 1: and then it just became something that I fell in
Speaker 1: love with for people trying to come up. Though, I
Speaker 1: think the dopest thing is that you you you created
Speaker 1: like you you created that, like you went like I remember,
Speaker 1: he created the culture. That's what I'm saying. Every time
Speaker 1: you see Metro, you see him taking the pictures. Like
Speaker 1: he didn't ask for no hand out. He damned there
Speaker 1: didn't even talk like, no, no, I didn't know your
Speaker 1: name for a long time. I don't know homie with
Speaker 1: the camera, you know what I'm saying. But he made
Speaker 1: show he got get him in metro confused back in
Speaker 1: the day like for real, for real, Like that's how No,
Speaker 1: but that's how like that's how instrumental he was in
Speaker 1: that whole time period and era because he was always
Speaker 1: there like that ship was crazy. No, I appreciated that, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of you all on my on my
Speaker 1: come up definitely is special. And I just always love
Speaker 1: Atlantic for embracing me, like, you know, just being a
Speaker 1: kid from out of town. Um, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I'm from Maryland originally Peg County, so a lot of
Speaker 1: the times y'all saw me quiet. It is just because
Speaker 1: out of respect for that, you know, the culture of
Speaker 1: the scene. I'm not here to be loud. I'm here
Speaker 1: to do a job and I'm here to respect what's
Speaker 1: going on. Like I always say, as a photographer, is
Speaker 1: important to note when the document of moment and when
Speaker 1: the creative moment, and at the beginning of my career
Speaker 1: was important just to document what I was seeing and
Speaker 1: not I actually try to disrupt it do too much.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was super quiet, kid, I wasn't talking
Speaker 1: at all. And the studio sessions, I was just happy
Speaker 1: to be there and just trying to do my job.
Speaker 1: So how do how do? How do? How do? How
Speaker 1: do they work? Like like what they call it when
Speaker 1: they were talking about the last time, you know, man,
Speaker 1: I I ain't got into it yet, to be honest,
Speaker 1: but I'm working on something right now. Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just looking into it, it sounds like something interesting because
Speaker 1: right now, you gotta say, I'm a photographer that came
Speaker 1: up on social media era, so my photos are everywhere
Speaker 1: on the internet. You know. Once I posted to Instagram,
Speaker 1: it's being ripped by every magazine posted here here. Like
Speaker 1: I just look at people's phones. Sometimes they have a
Speaker 1: photo I took as a screen saving. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just did not give you that photo. I can't give
Speaker 1: you rights for none of that. So the idea of
Speaker 1: an n f T for me as a content creator
Speaker 1: is it's something that I'm interested in because it's really
Speaker 1: a way that I can control the rights and control
Speaker 1: how people are using my work online, which is something
Speaker 1: that most photographers struggle with. To this day. I mean
Speaker 1: some of the photos y'all know that's famous that I took.
Speaker 1: I didn't really make no money off of it, besides
Speaker 1: maybe the day I got paid for doing it, or
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So the idea of something
Speaker 1: giving me royalties on a digital use sound amazing to me.
Speaker 1: Um show, That's why I brought it up. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got legendary pictures that you can if you just say,
Speaker 1: then you do a photo shoot with somebody and you
Speaker 1: get them to shoot a single picture and you made that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can make a lot of money together, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like for sure, but for me, like
Speaker 1: I look at myself, it's also like a leader to
Speaker 1: a lot of younger photographers and just the community out
Speaker 1: here in general. So it's important that I know it
Speaker 1: before I started to jump out there and say this
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. So I'm in that phase right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to a bunch of companies and just
Speaker 1: really understand it the game plan, and then when I
Speaker 1: have it, I'll be able to pass it down and
Speaker 1: then do it the right way and show people and
Speaker 1: then say all right, this is how you can actually
Speaker 1: do it, because it's gonna get tricky. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: artists don't always understand this n f T stuff. So
Speaker 1: that's always been a tricky part for photography, is like
Speaker 1: how do I monetize this? Like if I take a
Speaker 1: picture of you today and then tomorrow you're going Internet
Speaker 1: and you see I sold it for fifty tho, I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'm gonna get a call from you, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, even though technically and the way the
Speaker 1: way it worked copies, right, I own it. Like if
Speaker 1: we really wanted to go to war, I'm gonna probably
Speaker 1: win in the court of law. But it's tricky, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you gotta you gotta save
Speaker 1: that relationship. Yeah, sometimes it ain't worth it. An email
Speaker 1: when we did a little photo shooting, you like you
Speaker 1: want to retain the rights ownership? Yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: for somebody else to use it, Like they gotta come
Speaker 1: to you. Fact because the third party, it's really what
Speaker 1: you're doing for because that shop, we just deal with
Speaker 1: a little one that turned out super fire. He wearing
Speaker 1: other brands, So say the label want to take we
Speaker 1: call him wearing Psachi. We're gonna sell this photo to
Speaker 1: PSACH for a million. No, you can't do that. No,
Speaker 1: that's so you got to own it in order to
Speaker 1: be able to protect yourself because they'll just keep monetizing it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, over and over for years
Speaker 1: and years and years, and you don't get nothing off
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, nothing to beyond. Yeah, and you hold
Speaker 1: an artist for real for that matter. So you do
Speaker 1: that type of stuff just to make it clear. And
Speaker 1: then what labels when he gets to the real money
Speaker 1: and budgets like that costs money. It's a price for everything.
Speaker 1: So if you want to own something that's like a
Speaker 1: masters for a music artist, there's a price for it
Speaker 1: if you want to own it. But if not, then
Speaker 1: let's just do this little license deal. You can use
Speaker 1: it forever long you want, and after that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you give it back to me. Basically,
Speaker 1: learn all this ship just coming up, like having lawyers
Speaker 1: and ship coming up through the runt man mistakes, you know,
Speaker 1: you're learning first two mistakes, you know, and just seeing
Speaker 1: the game. Um as I moved up in the game,
Speaker 1: I talked to older photographers, you know, I researched things.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of just learning as much as
Speaker 1: I can. But then also it helps it. You know,
Speaker 1: my best friend is a lawyer. He protects other people's rights.
Speaker 1: So as we're coming up, he learned and stuff in
Speaker 1: law school. That's telling me like, yo, you know x
Speaker 1: Y all right, I adn't know that, Okay, back um.
Speaker 1: But it's difficult because end of the day. I always
Speaker 1: tell photographer, you can have all your ship right on paper.
Speaker 1: You can know you're right. You can know this. If
Speaker 1: one of these artists taking use your photo, what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna sue him. You can try, you
Speaker 1: won't make no money. You don't have the money to
Speaker 1: fight against him in court. So it's just tricky. It's
Speaker 1: tricky because it's all about relationships at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. So you gotta know when to pick and
Speaker 1: choose your battles. Like I've walked into Urban outfitters and
Speaker 1: seeing my work like on a shirt hmm, but it
Speaker 1: was an artist and I'm tired you with So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like he may not understand
Speaker 1: this ship is supposed to go. If I call him out,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like he ain't gonna understand it. Like
Speaker 1: I paid you, I paid you for the shoot. You
Speaker 1: paid me for the shoot, but you ain't paid, just
Speaker 1: go do whatever you want to do with it. So
Speaker 1: especially in Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta, they don't understand that. So
Speaker 1: it's like you really got to pick and choose. They
Speaker 1: spend all their money and when it get fresh and
Speaker 1: all this ship, theyse's face. Yeah, photo expected. You can
Speaker 1: choose my battles like you got it. You can use
Speaker 1: it for that. That's cool, but you're not not necessarily
Speaker 1: supposed to, you know what I mean. But what do
Speaker 1: you think that you should try to? Uh, Like when
Speaker 1: you do shoot with niggas, you should tell them like look, bro,
Speaker 1: the big niggas like bro, you did brood makes some
Speaker 1: moneyut of these kids. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But it's again,
Speaker 1: it's just tricky. It's tricky because you got these other
Speaker 1: artists sometimes to have so many hands in the pot
Speaker 1: that they don't even want to acknowledge you. And then
Speaker 1: also keep it real. I'm blessed that Atlanta embraced me
Speaker 1: and I carry myself a certain type of way, but
Speaker 1: some of these artists don't respect the photographer enough to
Speaker 1: listen to me talking about I want to do business
Speaker 1: with them, like it's something that that see what I
Speaker 1: really got going on, and they'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good idea, that's a good look.
Speaker 1: But it's still a fight for it, Like you know,
Speaker 1: they're rather do business with somebody to take pictures. Take
Speaker 1: the pictures, but keep it moving. So for me, I
Speaker 1: learned that ship early that it ain't it ain't even
Speaker 1: my job to try to do too much real business
Speaker 1: with artists. Like to be honest, I have a whole
Speaker 1: system where I don't really charge artists. I charged the label,
Speaker 1: and I charged the companies that want to use these artists.
Speaker 1: But I know this long time ago, I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: Like and I and I love Young Dolph and I
Speaker 1: did a shoot for him one day and it was
Speaker 1: a spurred the moment. He called me like, pull up,
Speaker 1: I want to do a shoot at the studio. I
Speaker 1: need to get some photos, and you pulled up. We
Speaker 1: did the shooting. At the end of the shoot, we
Speaker 1: never talked numbers. At the end of the shoot, he
Speaker 1: just pulls out some money. He's going through his He's like,
Speaker 1: which how much you want? And at that moment, I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell him, like, you know, I get ten thousand.
Speaker 1: The shoot because at that moment, he would have never
Speaker 1: understood that, like it would just been like you trying me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So at that moment, I realized,
Speaker 1: like it didn't even make no sense to me trying
Speaker 1: to take your money. I just need your relationship. I
Speaker 1: just need you to call me so right now, I
Speaker 1: just said, yo, bro, I don't even want your money,
Speaker 1: like you're good, don't pay me, and I didn't shoot free.
Speaker 1: And then from there though dog see me and his love,
Speaker 1: it was it was also a chess move for respect
Speaker 1: because it's like most of these rappers, you know, no
Speaker 1: offense to him, it's just how it is. They look
Speaker 1: at photographs. It's a nerdy broke nigga's like, you know,
Speaker 1: because some of them moved, they carried themselves like that
Speaker 1: move like that you had to run in with an
Speaker 1: artists don't like a bad photo shoot or somebody trying
Speaker 1: to chump you off of you know, where you might
Speaker 1: have some words or some ship like have you ever
Speaker 1: had them? Type of situations? Never? Never dope. But I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm my manner like if you have no words me,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you. Like I'm not even like
Speaker 1: because I don't even carry myself like that. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's all about that. But also I played the position.
Speaker 1: I respect the role. End of the day, it's the industry,
Speaker 1: I man, it revolves around the artist, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm not gonna be stupid and then
Speaker 1: act like I'm the most important one on this set. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not the most important one on the set. It's
Speaker 1: the artist. So I've I'll wait five hours if you're late, Like,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. You're the artist, you control
Speaker 1: the court. But in certain ways, I'm not just gonna
Speaker 1: let you just just pump me, y'all. You ain't just
Speaker 1: gonna do me whatever. But I don't put myself out
Speaker 1: there to get done dirty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like that's the beauty of photography. I'll tell people, it's
Speaker 1: like you can only waste both of our time. You
Speaker 1: either gonna pay me and you get the photo, or
Speaker 1: we're both gonna sit here and shoot, gonna be getting
Speaker 1: dressed out, haircut, and ain't no one's gonna get those photos.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like there's no way I could
Speaker 1: get guy in photography in a certain sense because you're
Speaker 1: gonna either pay or were both just gonna waste time,
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna get the photos and not pay me.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work that way because I won't send
Speaker 1: the photos. So it's like it's nothing to talk about.
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, it's it's chill. But when I
Speaker 1: when I really switched my business model to not be
Speaker 1: charging artists and also just strengthen my relationship with them,
Speaker 1: because it's like every time they see me, it feels
Speaker 1: like I'm doing them a favor, but they're not understanding,
Speaker 1: or they might understand that, maybe they don't trip on it.
Speaker 1: I'm monetizing it in ten other different ways. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's because of the shootout did with
Speaker 1: you that people want to book my studio, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? What they want to buy the merchant
Speaker 1: that I said, or signed to my label that I got.
Speaker 1: It's because of the work we do. So when I
Speaker 1: learned that it's just more important to just have artists
Speaker 1: as your friends or in alliance with you, then be
Speaker 1: trying to charge them for what they don't want to
Speaker 1: pay you. They don't want to pay nobody if they
Speaker 1: don't got to, and anything wrong with that? How did
Speaker 1: you get good at photography, like because you said that
Speaker 1: that wasn't your thing, Like did you did you go
Speaker 1: did you study certain ship? Or how did you get
Speaker 1: good at it? Because there's a lot of photographers Like
Speaker 1: that's the other things too. Do you feel like it's
Speaker 1: a crowded space because there's a penny people with cameras,
Speaker 1: but then have photographers they just nig with cameras. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I had to learn early on that photography is
Speaker 1: a skill first and then there's an art form second.
Speaker 1: So once you unmaster the skill, that's like music, like
Speaker 1: you want to know how to make a song, and
Speaker 1: then you can start to put your own swag on
Speaker 1: it for the most part, or you know, other areas.
Speaker 1: So at the beginning, I was just shooting. I was
Speaker 1: just bushing, to be honest, Like, um, a lot of
Speaker 1: the photos you've seen, like even like the famous photo
Speaker 1: I took a Gucci with the gun. It's in black
Speaker 1: and white. It's in black and white because I don't
Speaker 1: know how to edit photos in color, like you know,
Speaker 1: like it was like so I wasn't necessarily just doing
Speaker 1: it on purpose. I was just like ship, when I
Speaker 1: turned the black and white, it looked good. But in
Speaker 1: color it don't really look that good because the skin
Speaker 1: tone is like I didn't really know what I was doing,
Speaker 1: So to be honest, I struggled out to the beginning.
Speaker 1: I missed a lot of pivotal moments that I could
Speaker 1: have really captured and really made movies out of because
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what I was doing. So once
Speaker 1: I kind of figured it out, like or A got
Speaker 1: exposed to other photographers and saw the quality of their work,
Speaker 1: I just started to try to figure it out. So
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of videos, like I watched behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of like photographers I'm I'm into and I
Speaker 1: freeze the camera and see, okay, how he shooting. He
Speaker 1: shot from this angle, he was crouching. He used, this,
Speaker 1: ain't this camera. I'll be studying stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: then from there I just started shooting as much as
Speaker 1: I could and just continue to get better. But for me,
Speaker 1: it was always about quality. First, just get a good
Speaker 1: quality photo, and then people respect that make it look
Speaker 1: clear um, and then from there you can add your
Speaker 1: own little spinner flare to it, for sure. So just
Speaker 1: being around the culture and just being around this ship, studios, traveling,
Speaker 1: whatever the cases what's what's some of the craziest ship
Speaker 1: that you don't witness on encountered Like you gotta say who,
Speaker 1: but like that he was like, oh man, this is
Speaker 1: I've witnessed a lot of like legendary stuff to be honest,
Speaker 1: like moments that um are just wild, just being in
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. But that's kind
Speaker 1: of where I always felt like the universe was leading
Speaker 1: me to a studio sessions or sessions encounters like I
Speaker 1: think I was there, Like the day Mike Will met
Speaker 1: Ray shremant, like how do I how do I happen
Speaker 1: to be there that day with my camera? You know,
Speaker 1: it's like that's bad random. You know, to day metromed
Speaker 1: Meek Mill for the first time and Thug met Meek
Speaker 1: for the first time and they recorded a record, Like
Speaker 1: I just happened to be there one there that day.
Speaker 1: So I've been able to witness a lot of crazy
Speaker 1: stuff like that, And I think that's the most inspiring
Speaker 1: part about the job as a photographer is honestly watching
Speaker 1: the way the music industry in Atlanta collaborates with each other.
Speaker 1: That's like a big part of my business plan also
Speaker 1: comes from that because I'm not seeing you know, thug
Speaker 1: and future exchanging money back and forth when they do
Speaker 1: these verses. They doing the verses and they figured out
Speaker 1: on the back end. And that's kind of how I
Speaker 1: took my appro photography, is like what I look like,
Speaker 1: tapping their pockets right on the spot, like let's just create,
Speaker 1: let's make some dope ship and then in the back
Speaker 1: and we're gonna figure that out. And that always that
Speaker 1: always like renders a better vibe when you're not trying
Speaker 1: to like handle the business up front and then you
Speaker 1: build that relationship and do all of that on the back.
Speaker 1: And I learned that so um, trying to just think
Speaker 1: of moments. I mean, how didn't witness you know the
Speaker 1: famous video I put out that went viral, like coming
Speaker 1: back from the road with young Scooter at seven in
Speaker 1: the morning going to the brick factory and seeing Gucci boxing,
Speaker 1: Like like what the like why is he? Why is
Speaker 1: he sitting in the middle of the living room with
Speaker 1: his shirt off, just boxing, Like so just funny moments
Speaker 1: like that, like what the fun is going on in here? Um? So,
Speaker 1: just like I said, just crazy ass sessions or or
Speaker 1: people you wouldn't expect are cool or in the same
Speaker 1: room together recording or doing like I wouldn't and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And I've been just blessed to get access
Speaker 1: through you know, so many artists to witness this stuff.
Speaker 1: But I definitely have seen some some wild ship and
Speaker 1: some legendary ship for real. So what's the more collective?
Speaker 1: What is it? Collective Gallery? So Collective Gallery is another
Speaker 1: one of my business ventures, is the newest one, um
Speaker 1: But it's basically again taking inspiration from what I learned
Speaker 1: in the music industry and saying like, how come a
Speaker 1: music artist could be successful, you know, they're good in
Speaker 1: his career and then he could start a lay one
Speaker 1: and you know kind of pyramid scheme and or bringing
Speaker 1: other people up underneath him through the same way. And
Speaker 1: it's like it just got me to thinking, like why
Speaker 1: they're the only artist that kind of do that. You know,
Speaker 1: other other art forms to have success, have notoriety. Why
Speaker 1: can't they just basically take their blueprint and duplicated onto
Speaker 1: three other people and then get to get a cut
Speaker 1: of what they do. So Collective Gallery is my label.
Speaker 1: It's a photography based label where basically we go in
Speaker 1: and we on other photographers and we banaged their career,
Speaker 1: We monetize their career, we take their career, blow them up.
Speaker 1: But then also they signed to me, so it's like
Speaker 1: a label. So the fun part about Collective Gallery is
Speaker 1: I get to kind of run around like I'm QC
Speaker 1: or something else. But we're doing it with with photographers
Speaker 1: and we have fun with and it's the first of
Speaker 1: its con So when we put that out, um, like,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm an artist signed to us, all my work
Speaker 1: now is is a part of the Collective Gallery. We've
Speaker 1: got three other artists. We've got John Cannon, he's twenty
Speaker 1: one savage photographer. Uh he shot the Savage Mode cover.
Speaker 1: We got Scrilled Davis, he's an upcoming, you know, amazing photographer.
Speaker 1: He just did Uh he's actually directing too, but he
Speaker 1: did Milatto's Beatbox Freestyle. He directed that and shot all
Speaker 1: the photos for that. Um. And then we got a
Speaker 1: new artist in Jayalen the Mirror, who's kind of like
Speaker 1: a mixed medium artist. He does like photography, but he
Speaker 1: also paints over the work as well, and his work
Speaker 1: is incredible. And then we signed a few more artists
Speaker 1: that we actually got on contract now. Um, but it's exciting.
Speaker 1: It ain't no super Yeah, I had to show you something.
Speaker 1: Ship's crazy. You do some next level ship. To be honest,
Speaker 1: he's fired. He's young, he's like twenty years old. He's
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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of hits. Let him know some
Speaker 1: of these people name some of the hits. Give us
Speaker 1: about five or ten like cut the mindesty and popular
Speaker 1: ship now, Like I just honestly I'll be forgetting man. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's future same, She's the same damn time right, X
Speaker 1: and Rex was the first one racks on Racks Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: opened up the doors and wrapped it. That we did
Speaker 1: Yeah birthday song change, and that we did the mccoonan Tuesday.
Speaker 1: How we get hold of stuff? I would just I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie like it. So it'd be so hard
Speaker 1: for me to name out the accolades though, because when
Speaker 1: when we was taking these shots and doing all this stuff,
Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't for what it is today,
Speaker 1: Like like I had tweeted some ship like a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Like when you're doing legendary ship, you
Speaker 1: just you never know you're doing that ship until, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you look back on it
Speaker 1: and see what it is, What was the impact on
Speaker 1: everybody else? Like when I when I was like really
Speaker 1: just in it, bro, we was in it, just having fun.
Speaker 1: So I never really looked back on my accolades, like
Speaker 1: on something man, look what that guy? Or look what
Speaker 1: that did? You know what I'm saying, But I had
Speaker 1: to feel good when you got your first plaque. It
Speaker 1: felt good getting my last. Always see that ship come
Speaker 1: to your front though that you know what the box
Speaker 1: is really that that's always a good feeling. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie getting getting those. I feel a lot
Speaker 1: better than me just talking about it and ship though,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like something that I ain't
Speaker 1: even got to talking about, Like when I got I
Speaker 1: got all my plexic my studio, when people come in there,
Speaker 1: they just be amazed and ship though, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I ain't really gotta do too much talking at that point,
Speaker 1: you know. But but let's keep it real, though, do
Speaker 1: you feel like sometimes and I think we had this conversation,
Speaker 1: and do you feel like sometimes people leave you out
Speaker 1: of the conversation of Atlanta's great producers because people will
Speaker 1: be around and their name names and I have to
Speaker 1: throw your name, don't forget sunny, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's a little to everybody doing to everybody bro,
Speaker 1: you know, like but of course, though I know I
Speaker 1: know that that's just how it is though. But I
Speaker 1: feel like that's just like the type of person I am.
Speaker 1: No were like, I'm not gonna sound forgettable though, but
Speaker 1: I do just be in the cut, just doing what
Speaker 1: I need to do and stuff though, you know. But
Speaker 1: like I've seen that. I've seen like a little picture
Speaker 1: going around with the little Mountain Rushmore with all the
Speaker 1: producers and shipped on it, and you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be a real nigger about it, so I've seen it.
Speaker 1: It was I believe it was Metro Sizzle had a
Speaker 1: blank space and they had Pierre on there and they
Speaker 1: was talking about the early tens. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it's they are rays start off on their own foot
Speaker 1: by like throwing Pierre in that mixed though because he
Speaker 1: didn't come out there earlier. He came out a little
Speaker 1: later and stuff though, so that that was already kind
Speaker 1: of wrong right there. I was like, man, I should
Speaker 1: have It would have been a respectable look to have,
Speaker 1: probably like Lex to somebody on there who was like,
Speaker 1: really like you know what, like you and Lex or
Speaker 1: you and Spins or you know what I'm saying, somebody
Speaker 1: like that. I wouldn't even necessarily throw myself in there
Speaker 1: because it was a lot of even Mike Well. I
Speaker 1: was like, Mike, Mike, you know how long we've been
Speaker 1: riding before I had ship going. But like even Mike,
Speaker 1: Mike willdo like it was a lot of us that
Speaker 1: came out, so basically we need to put some more
Speaker 1: heads on the mountain. I was thinking about taking it.
Speaker 1: It was a good idea. I've seen that that picture
Speaker 1: online with the mural and ship. I was like, shout,
Speaker 1: I might take and go get that ship put on.
Speaker 1: Have somebody painting on one of these walls and ship though,
Speaker 1: but the right way over everybody makes supposed to be
Speaker 1: on it, and ship though, Like it's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a wall that you can rent out there. They do
Speaker 1: murles on over there on north Side Drive with the
Speaker 1: water boys being right there. It's a big as it's
Speaker 1: a big as wall. I had thought about it, like yesterday,
Speaker 1: I was like, I might just just rent it out
Speaker 1: for like a month and paint the little ship on
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying, and do it
Speaker 1: the right way. I wasn't eve gonna tell nobody I
Speaker 1: was gonna do it. I was just gonna just like
Speaker 1: this this high is supposed to be. Are you caught
Speaker 1: the hit? Ship bro um before my started making beats
Speaker 1: when I was like twelve thirteen, So from from all
Speaker 1: the weapon to their up until I was like nineteen
Speaker 1: and ship that was it was grind. Oh but you
Speaker 1: know coming in so young like that, which I'll be
Speaker 1: trying to like tell like these young kids and I
Speaker 1: feel like they're listening now, they don't seem so much
Speaker 1: of a grind. It's like most of a hobby though
Speaker 1: because I was, I wasn't. It wasn't nothing I had
Speaker 1: to pay for the time. I was still my mom
Speaker 1: and ship though, you know what I'm saying, Like it
Speaker 1: wasn't no no overhead and ship, so it was a hobby.
Speaker 1: Like so when other things be out there playing basketball
Speaker 1: or my brother and then played the video game and
Speaker 1: ship though my hobby and be making beats. So it
Speaker 1: didn't seem like a grind at the time. Though. When
Speaker 1: it became a grind is when you get your hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when they would come a ground when the ship
Speaker 1: get real. Now is your job now go up? You
Speaker 1: gotta keep this ship up. That's really the hard the
Speaker 1: hard part. Everybody crying about getting in and ship though,
Speaker 1: but ship, maintain this ship is like I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: say the hardest part though, but nigs be forgetting that
Speaker 1: part though, you know what I'm saying, Like, you got
Speaker 1: to maintain this ship. Like once you get a hit,
Speaker 1: you're gonna another one. Once you get another head, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need another one. Once you get another head, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get another one. You know what I'm saying, This
Speaker 1: ship like, you gotta prove yourself constantly though a lot
Speaker 1: of like I'm God trying to get them hit on,
Speaker 1: God trying to get them fucking with that money, you know,
Speaker 1: your lifestyle changing that money start coming in too, and
Speaker 1: then you create a you create a um what you
Speaker 1: call it. You create something for yourself where you create
Speaker 1: the way people look at you. Nothing from Cuban, Juban.
Speaker 1: I'm only doing that. I'm stopped doing this like I'm
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm doing this. I've been I've been shot.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but you don't set the ball for yourself.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't go smaller than this now. I
Speaker 1: do that intentionally for myself too, though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because it's like ship, the lad to change
Speaker 1: I went and bought this ship with expensive as hell,
Speaker 1: but like ship, I got get back to work now,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this ship wasn't this ship?
Speaker 1: You can get back in this studio as soon as
Speaker 1: I bought this mother for the first place out with
Speaker 1: inspirationally make them money, Like okay, ship, you know all
Speaker 1: this ship costs though, But like I said, like really
Speaker 1: maintaining all this ship your lifestyle like that that's really
Speaker 1: the hard part. Don't we get into this ship though,
Speaker 1: you know, Like so this is what I wanted all so,
Speaker 1: like you know, like a lot of like top tier
Speaker 1: producers such as yourself, are like studio junkies. They stay
Speaker 1: in the studio whatever whatever. But you go out. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I see you at night often,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you do, like you
Speaker 1: move around and like you you're like a lot of
Speaker 1: different places. So how does that being out and like
Speaker 1: being around and actually being on the scene, how does
Speaker 1: that kind of like bolster your creativity? Alright, being on
Speaker 1: the scene, that's the show, Like it helps out the
Speaker 1: creativity though, But when I'm out, honestly, like it's bigger
Speaker 1: than being a producer. It's bringing yourself. So like I
Speaker 1: go out show my let people know that I'm a
Speaker 1: real person, because there's a lot of people don't even
Speaker 1: know Sunny digital real person. They think that I do
Speaker 1: all that, you know, it's all branding and stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: so people see my face putting that face to the
Speaker 1: name and ship though, you know, like and I've been
Speaker 1: doing that though, and I just I just enjoy going out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a people person, but I just be cooling,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I do like to
Speaker 1: be out, you know. So but like me like going
Speaker 1: on trips, going to l A, going like to anywhere.
Speaker 1: You know, I take all that, like what I see
Speaker 1: in my experiences and stuff, and I kind of just
Speaker 1: translated through the music and stuff. Like I kind of do.
Speaker 1: Got to travel a lot to to make good music.
Speaker 1: You know. I gotta see certain things to be exposed.
Speaker 1: Certain things feel a certain type of way, you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm at home. I'm at home, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's easy to work here. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't say burnt myself out being here over but
Speaker 1: I s everything here. You know, my life here, you know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like it ain't just the studio
Speaker 1: no more. I'm thirty now, So like I got a
Speaker 1: kid and ship though I got, I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got my own studio that you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: uphold to you know you still you still have the
Speaker 1: same spot, punch, Because that's the next question I want
Speaker 1: to ask everybody. How important is it to find the
Speaker 1: right spot to work out of? Like you got a
Speaker 1: legendary spot, you're still at that spot? No, damn, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm the hardest sunny digital beasts you ever
Speaker 1: gave me in the world. That's whatever was going on
Speaker 1: in that spot. I never went in, but maybe he
Speaker 1: came outside and gave me tim beats cam about shot
Speaker 1: a video in there for for me and you, but
Speaker 1: a lot of his I kicked out that motherfucker. Imagine, bro,
Speaker 1: somebody I wouldn't even have Somebody shot a gun in
Speaker 1: the in the crib and then went through the floor
Speaker 1: through the bottom. Yeah, So one, none of your bullshit
Speaker 1: is just my mama. My mama worked in the in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, right Yeah, that bro, that's the only job
Speaker 1: I had to She had hired me to work there. Ship, right,
Speaker 1: and you know, we were just basically was easy. I
Speaker 1: had to go go clock in and go back home
Speaker 1: and go to sleep. So we had to show lock.
Speaker 1: All my homies stayed on the same block. My mom
Speaker 1: was getting all of all of us in. And ship though,
Speaker 1: but ship, all that ship, you know, just it was
Speaker 1: too many people, you know, and like, like I said,
Speaker 1: when that ship happened, I wasn't even at home and ship.
Speaker 1: I don't even find out the ship happened to the
Speaker 1: next morning to the the police at the door, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he'll happen. Somebody shot through the floor. I'm like ship
Speaker 1: the rest of piece of sunny old spot, a lot
Speaker 1: of legendary you know. Club. It was a new the
Speaker 1: new spot though. Right now I'm getting redone right now,
Speaker 1: actually on back, what's coming in and redoing, redoing the
Speaker 1: studio for me right now, I'm not the studio but
Speaker 1: the club spot back. What made you choose your spot? What?
Speaker 1: What is it called a collective? What do you call
Speaker 1: your spot? Camp, Kirk Studio, Kirk Studios, drunk Ship. What
Speaker 1: made you choose that spot? When did you know like
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the spot, To be honest, that
Speaker 1: spot was. It was given to me, um, you know ironically.
Speaker 1: So before I opened the studio, I had a name
Speaker 1: for myself. But I wasn't really making that much money.
Speaker 1: So I never really felt like I could actually go
Speaker 1: to a commercial place and get my own space. I
Speaker 1: wasn't really ready for that. Yeah, it didn't makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't have the studio business like that.
Speaker 1: I was making a little bit of money. I think
Speaker 1: I was still probably been traveling with with wat and
Speaker 1: people at times, so I wasn't really doing it like that.
Speaker 1: But I met a guy who had the space. He
Speaker 1: had basically like he has basically the relist that I
Speaker 1: got in that building. He had it before I had it,
Speaker 1: and he was trying to open up a recording studio
Speaker 1: on one side, and he had an extra room and
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, I'll give you this extra room
Speaker 1: for free if you're gonna do your photo shoots out
Speaker 1: of here, bring artists and they're gonna see my fied
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna be lived. So I was like, shift,
Speaker 1: if it don't cost me nothing, there's no risk. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I just do it. So I used to have a
Speaker 1: small room over there. Um, it was super small compared
Speaker 1: to what we got now. And yeah, he had the big,
Speaker 1: big side, and you know, me and my boy Keenan
Speaker 1: was actually here. We actually opened up the studio together.
Speaker 1: And he never he never opened up his studio side,
Speaker 1: like I think he just underestimated what it costs or
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So for the first five
Speaker 1: six months, I was kind of just trapping out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like a private space. Um. And then I came
Speaker 1: in there one day and we were getting evicted because
Speaker 1: he never paid rent ever. So I was just like,
Speaker 1: what's going on in here? Lu. I'm like, yeah, facts,
Speaker 1: because the building landlad was like, you know, we looked
Speaker 1: your name up and they can you know, you can
Speaker 1: find articles about me. At that time, I just wasn't
Speaker 1: really making no bread like that. And then they were
Speaker 1: just like yeah, it was like, you know, we think
Speaker 1: you do good business. We see you come here all
Speaker 1: the time. And they felt like I got tricked, so
Speaker 1: it was like we feel bad for you, so we'll
Speaker 1: just turn the whole lease over to you right now.
Speaker 1: So they ain't check my credit, they ain't check my income,
Speaker 1: they ain't check nothing. It was just like you can't
Speaker 1: afford it. You keep it um so ship. It was
Speaker 1: like a blessing because then I just took over the
Speaker 1: old space and I just bet on myself like all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do what We're gonna do it the right way,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna actually get people in here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: sell the studio time. And here we are three and
Speaker 1: a half. You know, years later, we do six hundred
Speaker 1: appointments of money in there with the most bookspace in
Speaker 1: Atlanta in the world if you really ask me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but literally there's six hundred shoots going in there every
Speaker 1: month and everybody's in there, every artist you could think
Speaker 1: of as well, big or small. So it's a blessing
Speaker 1: to now be like a staple, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I have that to lock it down. But I
Speaker 1: got it on something definitely God work, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It salute to Cam. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing he brought me over the long time ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: first got it. Yeah, when the buddy still had studio
Speaker 1: over there. Just see where it's it now. It's mind
Speaker 1: blowing like crazy. I'm like, the boy got the whole
Speaker 1: building down me on the slip, you know. No, it's
Speaker 1: a blessing, and I'll never see anybody else, any other
Speaker 1: humans in there. That's else to feel. I like him.
Speaker 1: He might be he don't really be there, but he
Speaker 1: don't be there. I gotta be that way because at
Speaker 1: first I was in there just running this ship myself.
Speaker 1: And then I'm just like, all right, this ain't this
Speaker 1: ain't the look, because then people are just gonna underestimates you,
Speaker 1: like you can't be your on work. So then I
Speaker 1: started investing. I got twenty one employees right now across
Speaker 1: all my businesses. So it's like, now I know how
Speaker 1: to delegate, and it just I'd rather just pay you
Speaker 1: than me even try to work the same job. I'd
Speaker 1: rather give you the job and I can sit back
Speaker 1: and do this. You may never work there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the office still running, They still
Speaker 1: here doing whatever they gotta do. So when I learned that,
Speaker 1: I just learned the power of delegation and being a boss.
Speaker 1: So whatever it takes, with the true meaning behind it,
Speaker 1: and you know, find a ways to duplicate yourself because
Speaker 1: I couldn't run that studio with all these appointments still
Speaker 1: be a photographer traveling and have my label. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: make sense. How are you dealing with the days? Like
Speaker 1: we could sit here now and everybody grunted to get
Speaker 1: to a certain point, But how you deal with the days?
Speaker 1: The broke days? Because a lot of people, well we're
Speaker 1: trying to give them games ship like that. They'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: it's easy for y'all because y'all ain't broken, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, n we was broke before, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But how y'all deal with the
Speaker 1: broke times? And how did you deal with the broke times?
Speaker 1: Get the way you're at? Man? So for me, I
Speaker 1: never saw the blueprint that led me to have money
Speaker 1: when it came to photography because I didn't know no
Speaker 1: photographers with bread or with money doing it. So money
Speaker 1: wasn't a motivation. It was just about making a lot
Speaker 1: of lifestyle for myself or just being able to live.
Speaker 1: So I was never I never had money pressure on
Speaker 1: myself back then because I was just like Ship, if
Speaker 1: I can afford an apartment, I could stay in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do that. I'm good.
Speaker 1: So it really wasn't until I started making money that
Speaker 1: money starts to become oh, make money, Let's make some
Speaker 1: more money like that. Um So at the beginning for me,
Speaker 1: I'm lowle maintenance. I'm low maintenance to this day. Like
Speaker 1: I don't move around too crazy, so as long as
Speaker 1: I can do what I gotta do. So back then
Speaker 1: it was dollar menu food. I was blessed to travel
Speaker 1: with artists and sometimes the artist to get me food.
Speaker 1: I didn't really have no pressure. I was more excited
Speaker 1: about the work we were doing. Like my happiest days
Speaker 1: were still like like Sunnay said in that spot, you know,
Speaker 1: the work we were doing, seeing ourselves on TV for
Speaker 1: the first time, like things that nature just was happy
Speaker 1: days still to this day. So for me, it ain't
Speaker 1: never been about money. So maybe it's a little different
Speaker 1: from me because I didn't really get into an industry
Speaker 1: where it's like like that. Though, why why something? You know?
Speaker 1: I hate why some of the best days the broke days.
Speaker 1: Girls don't like that. You're trying to get out of pressure.
Speaker 1: Pressure exactly, pressure when the pressure on its own. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real though, real nigger ship though. They
Speaker 1: just need to get jobs. We sweep preached that's the
Speaker 1: big fact of Bible. Yeah, the job bro, like what,
Speaker 1: I don't want it, bron, nigg want to be sunny
Speaker 1: digit on Camp Kirk. They don't want to get a job.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to do it over now, that's true.
Speaker 1: We're talking about snapping the reality though, man. Ship. That
Speaker 1: shouldn't happening overnight. Man, you know it might happen because
Speaker 1: you know it might or might not happen. No. But
Speaker 1: for the most part though, I had to convert with
Speaker 1: mikecause I'm like, Bro, I was thinking about signing like
Speaker 1: all these people, artist, producers and everything though, but everybody
Speaker 1: start looking at how I live my life. You think
Speaker 1: they like supposed to be lived like that too. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Mike, tell the niggas to have money,
Speaker 1: and she likes get a job like I like ship.
Speaker 1: That's like, okay, that makes sense though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, but at the time when we was broke, though,
Speaker 1: we don't win to here, we we don't. Ain't nobody
Speaker 1: really want to go through what they had to go through.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You gotta go through this ship, man.
Speaker 1: Everybody be looking at this ship like it's easy, easy,
Speaker 1: easy way to get here. Bro, Just this ship Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta put your work in, Bro. And we still
Speaker 1: ain't done. We're still at the beginning. I feel, you know,
Speaker 1: most definitely. But I think it's just social media just
Speaker 1: obviously just stories everything and the result mindset. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you really just look at the math
Speaker 1: and stuff you can google, like google how many people
Speaker 1: in America make a hundred thousands a year, it's less
Speaker 1: than ten percent, Like you know, it's like the numbers
Speaker 1: are low. So it's like, why do you just assume
Speaker 1: you're just supposed to all vactly be rich or so
Speaker 1: it's like when people understand those things, they realize they
Speaker 1: put less pressure on themselves. But I think it's just
Speaker 1: it's just false realities of like people thinking you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be a millionaire. That's what success the media, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not success excess in a million dollars, like because
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then the percentage even lower. It's
Speaker 1: probably how many percent of people are maying there is
Speaker 1: It's probably success is happiness and you being able to
Speaker 1: do what you wanted to do on this earth to
Speaker 1: the fullest ability of what you are. So if I
Speaker 1: made eighty thou dollars, you couldn't tell me I wasn't successful,
Speaker 1: Like if that's what I wanted to do, I wake
Speaker 1: up every day happy. That's what I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 1: That's success to me, got their own everybody at their
Speaker 1: own things. I think so many people put money in
Speaker 1: the same boat at success, and I think that if
Speaker 1: more younger people just would separate those two. Money could
Speaker 1: be part of your success, but it shouldn't be success.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be your definition of success. It's put less pressure
Speaker 1: on yourself, like people be losing their mind trying to
Speaker 1: make money, like it's crazy. It's hard to preach that
Speaker 1: with social media though, I ain't gonna lie like these
Speaker 1: little niggas is in hindsight looking for me. We're looking out.
Speaker 1: We can see reality though, but like man, when you
Speaker 1: lit nigga, see niggas with loads of money and ship
Speaker 1: though we're talking about that percentage and ship though about
Speaker 1: how many people having that many? That's that's the people
Speaker 1: that's on paper though they see every paper nigga. Two
Speaker 1: doors for me, like having blocks like like on the
Speaker 1: same block, like you know what I'm saying, like like
Speaker 1: that that that was really going on. That's what we
Speaker 1: see the niggas who should on black and white. I
Speaker 1: don't think they not don't lie doing that ship. Everybody
Speaker 1: that we see is that's how they live right now.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's like like how you said
Speaker 1: though really it's that social media when when they can
Speaker 1: see it, like like I said that, I don't even
Speaker 1: really I don't. I don't really deal with artists like
Speaker 1: as far like new artists anymore unless they know what
Speaker 1: the funk going on this ship though, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because like they're gonna look at it another
Speaker 1: another rapper situation and think his ship supposed to be
Speaker 1: like that, what you mean, like deal with me about
Speaker 1: like sound him or send them beat or signed them,
Speaker 1: sign him when you signed, when you essentially signed anybody
Speaker 1: to you, they're down. They'll be like it's like you adopting.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like like like
Speaker 1: your daddy not type like like like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, so like that's how that looked to
Speaker 1: you to do everything everything my fault and when everything
Speaker 1: is your responsibility. Everything whatever happened good, they did whatever exactly,
Speaker 1: they did it on their own. When when it's all good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no help, So what's your fuck up? Don't sunny then
Speaker 1: if it suddenly had me funked up? Like come on man,
Speaker 1: like you know but but but it's just it's just
Speaker 1: how that ship, how they look. I can't at signed
Speaker 1: to me, so I can't you know, I can't talk
Speaker 1: about them. Man. He just he got ahead of it,
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying, Like everybody, basically, bro, really,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all one situation. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: all one. I had a whole I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: all one situation. Though. So when I had first got
Speaker 1: my studio clude Digital and Ship, though, I was like,
Speaker 1: I really got it too. I got my studio so
Speaker 1: I can got damn go to the labels Like I
Speaker 1: got a studio, I got orders. Cut me to check. Bro,
Speaker 1: we can record here, you know what I'm saying, We
Speaker 1: can you know what I'm saying. So it was an
Speaker 1: easy place because I already got my situation with Atlantic
Speaker 1: and Ship. So I'm like, all I gotta do is
Speaker 1: get y'all high here and don't cost me to record y'all.
Speaker 1: You know what saying? I got everything right here. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying we can, we can situation ship,
Speaker 1: so bom, I like, all right, So I got four artists.
Speaker 1: Two of them was my friends, two of them was
Speaker 1: two other yeah, two other randoms that I was like, okay, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all kind of fire with this ship or whatever. Though,
Speaker 1: So my two friends and ship though a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: you had this nigga boat had a show. We all
Speaker 1: went down on Panama. We went to Panama, right, and
Speaker 1: so when when when when he had a show up?
Speaker 1: I had a show? Will brain probably like to two
Speaker 1: of the artists are two and another two of another
Speaker 1: show or something like that just kind of split up it.
Speaker 1: So don't be four artists going on one show and ship.
Speaker 1: So we'll bring them out and ship. They't let them
Speaker 1: do their thing though, you know, like niggas ain't that's
Speaker 1: exposure for your like like like nig you ain't had
Speaker 1: no show tonight, like nobody had nothing going on. Like
Speaker 1: we're making this ship go on right now, so come
Speaker 1: on with it. You'm saying, you come on do your
Speaker 1: ship though. So I don't know, I wanted one of
Speaker 1: my artists flex to the other artists, like he got
Speaker 1: paid for the show. What I It wasn't the friend
Speaker 1: that flexs to the random nigga. R No, it was
Speaker 1: the friend that flexs to the random nigga. And that
Speaker 1: that's what made it even seem more legit, because you know,
Speaker 1: they like they already know like your favorite niggas, So
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the money for exactly. But I ain't
Speaker 1: nobody get paid for no show. The only person that
Speaker 1: got paid for the show was him. Yeah, we was
Speaker 1: all coming out on so like, hey man, we got
Speaker 1: this going on, we're gonna bring it. He the only
Speaker 1: one that got paid for the show. Ain't nobody get
Speaker 1: buzzed down for nothing? We all driving down on our
Speaker 1: own diamond ship though, So my friend gonna tell the
Speaker 1: other artists that he got paid for the show for
Speaker 1: what reason, I don't know, but it started. It started
Speaker 1: some internal ship though, and the artists got mad at me,
Speaker 1: made it made it this song about me and ship, bro.
Speaker 1: But did the random nigger ever like approach you and
Speaker 1: talking out like that? Man? All right? So look that
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. I was like, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know you had this undercover pressure with me and ship though,
Speaker 1: like until they started telling me. And so later on
Speaker 1: down the road. I'm such a cool nig I'm like,
Speaker 1: I ain't really tripping because you don't really understand in
Speaker 1: the dough. But I ain't gonna really full with you
Speaker 1: like on that level again though. But he came to
Speaker 1: a sensence and came and chopped it up with me
Speaker 1: as a as a grown man last after this record
Speaker 1: after I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he don't know, if he put it out of
Speaker 1: not though, But it was just the fact that it
Speaker 1: was made though. I'm like, like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like that, that'd be the whole thing. Bro, Na, I
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing meet doing anywhere, not really. You gotta
Speaker 1: know what's going on at this point too. I'm putting
Speaker 1: my foot down. Hey, I'm not your daddy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Get you a job if you need
Speaker 1: some money, bro, And the ship work, bro, Like be
Speaker 1: a real nick about this ship, Like when when you
Speaker 1: sign the artist what you ain't gonna game ship it'll
Speaker 1: be bro. I look, bro, when when you coming, when
Speaker 1: you come with Sunny Bro, you you can go anywhere,
Speaker 1: we can go anywhere in the world. Bro. I'm going
Speaker 1: in any studio, but this ship different. That he need
Speaker 1: to need some money, that's that's fine. You just gotta
Speaker 1: get your fine now. Look it's already and ready to go.
Speaker 1: But look, look, getting money right now ain't hard. Bro.
Speaker 1: It ain't hard, bro, Like, don't you don't matter been
Speaker 1: black and white. If it's black and white, all documented
Speaker 1: on document, Get your motherfucker money. Bro, we all had
Speaker 1: to get this shot out the mud. Bro, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that he comes saying to you, look that nigga
Speaker 1: might want to wear chrome hard jeans. Yesterday, yesterday, I
Speaker 1: still got him on my chrome hart hot. I got
Speaker 1: my ship, I got two three follow him hot. Yeah, Sonny,
Speaker 1: you come to me and say you want to say
Speaker 1: not not sused to not boom boom. If there's that
Speaker 1: type of situation where it ain't too much, I gotta
Speaker 1: build up. Yeah, I'm coming there. I know how to
Speaker 1: handle the business. Though. Now Bro, okay, you right here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you some money. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: some money. Bro. Saying like you should meet a nigger
Speaker 1: like trying to take it from zero a little yea
Speaker 1: the spot. Let me give you a good example though,
Speaker 1: so you know you know seeing your tril. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been see your trail. He does. He does a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff we've been doing. Yeah, he had wrapped him.
Speaker 1: I've been this n just alone, cool as hell like
Speaker 1: but so, but he kind of buzzing right now though.
Speaker 1: But I've been doing this. Nigga from Metro induced me
Speaker 1: to him probably like ten years ago type ship though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At the crib, and Nick
Speaker 1: came that Nigga had so much money to that day. Bro,
Speaker 1: he was just buying beasts from everybody and ship though. Bro,
Speaker 1: he was bro and he bought a verse with OJ
Speaker 1: and ship bro. So she was crazy that day. But
Speaker 1: but um so with him when he started recently bubbling
Speaker 1: and ship though, I had reached out to him. I
Speaker 1: reached out to him ten years ago, like I was
Speaker 1: gonna sunk with him just off the fact that he
Speaker 1: had bought so many beats from me though, and I
Speaker 1: just sunk with his music and ship though. So he
Speaker 1: had ship going on, we was we was still fueling
Speaker 1: flame behind what the funk he had going on, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so at that time I
Speaker 1: wanted to funk with him and ship though, would ended
Speaker 1: up happening the nigga had got shot. The funk up
Speaker 1: and ship though, and kind of like he got shot
Speaker 1: and kind of like just fell off the scene a
Speaker 1: little bit though, you know what saying. The music when
Speaker 1: a priority at that point at that point, yeah, so
Speaker 1: so now he kind of he come back on the
Speaker 1: scene and like when I had started to see it though,
Speaker 1: I reached out to him. I'm like, hey, bro, like
Speaker 1: what so, let's let's work out of situation and ship
Speaker 1: when they start like kind of bubbling and ship though,
Speaker 1: you know, they got everybody on their line, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everybody on the line. So it's like
Speaker 1: sometimes I can't I can't even compete as far as
Speaker 1: like financially with whatever label or anybody gonna give you though,
Speaker 1: because honestly, I'm not about to give a nigga fifty
Speaker 1: thousand or whatever thousand and because on some ship though, Bro,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do any work and if it gets
Speaker 1: to that level and ship though, you know how much
Speaker 1: I can charge you for a beat, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So we can we could paying this ship
Speaker 1: out though, Like was it's gonna be like alright, ship,
Speaker 1: how much. You won't shock you this and that and
Speaker 1: beat if you want to reduce that. But I mean, dope,
Speaker 1: they do. But they don't even know I love them.
Speaker 1: I'm so bank I got. I gotta ask you now
Speaker 1: because you got you got your label. So when you
Speaker 1: signed these niggers and ship, though you you gave them
Speaker 1: a bag and ship, who um trouble. I didn't get
Speaker 1: them nigger ship. We came up together, we were brothers.
Speaker 1: It was a feminine so we all. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, all right, so what would you do
Speaker 1: were you never do no paperwork and nothing? That ship?
Speaker 1: You see a feminine? I see that different now you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like I ain't up to
Speaker 1: my life as a bidding, I'm signing it digital. What
Speaker 1: would you look at? How would you doing right now?
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be the dad I got, I got,
Speaker 1: I got, I got three three young niggers that don't
Speaker 1: funk with. But it's already what it is. They already
Speaker 1: have their own paper, they already they're already doing their
Speaker 1: I can't I'm doing. I'm doing a big factors. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you know what I'm saying. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: that little a little problems, y'all. We see I see,
Speaker 1: I see all of them doing their things, and look,
Speaker 1: it's not that many of them though that and I'm
Speaker 1: looking for that though I won't think it's kind of
Speaker 1: doing their thing though, but understand they do need a
Speaker 1: little more too though, Like like that they're gonna need,
Speaker 1: They're gonna need, They're gonna need like a Mike Will
Speaker 1: to come in and sign. Why not signing coming? You know,
Speaker 1: it's they don't want to make it look like when
Speaker 1: he signed, like sign signed, what is some guaranteed? What
Speaker 1: am I doing? But everybody got beats? Everybody, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, thank you, But I'm trying to explain to
Speaker 1: him how Nigga's thinking. But look that's cool and niked
Speaker 1: thing that all I got it beats, But no, I'm
Speaker 1: really got his beat. But Nigga's like, bro, I can wait. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't gonna feeling like bro wait my time but nothing.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, a rapper worst worst fair
Speaker 1: though is like signing and then being broke and they
Speaker 1: don't want to sign it broke. If you sign, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest ship. Like once I signed, I should
Speaker 1: be straight. That ain't really, that ain't reality. But that's
Speaker 1: how they think. I'm gonna tell us, real ship, if
Speaker 1: you signed a nigger like this today and he blow
Speaker 1: up and the end of time for y'all to bust
Speaker 1: his money up, you're gonna want your money for your
Speaker 1: beach you're publishing, then he gonna be a nigga that's
Speaker 1: gonna be on Big Fat saying you some bullshit because
Speaker 1: you ain't get the nigga ship from the real. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: look all right, so look not no, I didn't give
Speaker 1: me ship. He give me but not hey, but look
Speaker 1: but look bro, look this is the whole thing though,
Speaker 1: So now you're right, you're right, but this alright, so
Speaker 1: my whole thing too, for real, for real, Like I
Speaker 1: wasn't all some guy, damn, it's it's it's situations that
Speaker 1: I wasn't even having with my friends. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: it's certain niggas that I don't want to really even
Speaker 1: sign because I see them being bigger than what I
Speaker 1: can offer them right now, at this, at this moment,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna get business savvy and in
Speaker 1: a minute and understand that whatever I offered them. It
Speaker 1: probably was gonna be some bullshit, but it was fitting
Speaker 1: for the time though, what you was in. So I
Speaker 1: understand where we're out of that shome now, but but
Speaker 1: it was a situation that we had what's fitting for
Speaker 1: that time and stuff. I ain't no like ship. I
Speaker 1: believed in you like ship. Like ship. We believed in
Speaker 1: each other, like like you know, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: be you gotta be out. But you gotta think about
Speaker 1: that's coming from nothing together. But you got something. You
Speaker 1: look at that, but that that what you got someone already.
Speaker 1: But I don't look at all this ship. But there
Speaker 1: you gotta put in the game. That's why you gotta
Speaker 1: don't many, bro, they look that cool. We're gonna build
Speaker 1: haters all around us when when you're doing saying what
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in being there with him. Bro, Look, man,
Speaker 1: you you don't think the big companies and business with
Speaker 1: niggas that hate them likely Look it's different though, But
Speaker 1: now the biggest difference though with me and them is
Speaker 1: I actually be on the ground with these niggas. Though
Speaker 1: still though, do niggas be in the office and ship though,
Speaker 1: so honestly, they don't even they matter the whole label,
Speaker 1: and they don't even know who they're mad at. When
Speaker 1: these niggas get mad, they know they can get mad
Speaker 1: directly because I'm on the ground with him, but I
Speaker 1: might need just you can't even take this chance. You
Speaker 1: can't even take the chance to keep doing the beat.
Speaker 1: They don't get management. Management deal. I thought about that tool,
Speaker 1: Come with it, you know, and then we're gonna make
Speaker 1: it like my life. You really is a nigga daddy
Speaker 1: for my life in your end in a certain sense though,
Speaker 1: And you right though, I was like my whole thing
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, I'm dealing with producers like
Speaker 1: I really felt with them because I can. I can
Speaker 1: get through them. I can talk, and I can make
Speaker 1: this ship make sense to them, making I can show
Speaker 1: them this whole ship, how this ship go. I can
Speaker 1: show them I can break this ship down as an
Speaker 1: artist and ship though I know a little bit, but
Speaker 1: as far as like how they be feeling this ship though,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of oblivious to that ship though, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I ain't know all this. You
Speaker 1: gotta look at it like these niggas nowadays, at least
Speaker 1: these niggers nowadays, like at least want to get like
Speaker 1: a hell cat and a condo out of the situation.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I produce, produce somebody you can
Speaker 1: start their kids, health cat, come on one you want, man,
Speaker 1: That's all it takes for you, because they just want
Speaker 1: to be inspired, not off your ship off knowing them
Speaker 1: for to go outside and jumping it. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: a banger. That's a fact though, because that's too many
Speaker 1: y'all need to turn they turn their niggas up. No,
Speaker 1: that's a fact that crapship starting to go out the
Speaker 1: dough facts though, like get okay, you did turn you up,
Speaker 1: put you out within its meeting alright, So so but bag,
Speaker 1: don't you gotta look I look still from my end though,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Bro. You know bro, we all right,
Speaker 1: so we I see you, I see you, I see
Speaker 1: your most spot. I see you with Mike will spot
Speaker 1: more than anything, Bro. When I walk in his spot,
Speaker 1: I'm inspired. Bro. I'm like, oh man, he got these
Speaker 1: two artists really whole platoon, but swedel and got damn Jimmy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you ain't gonna telling me. I can't hand
Speaker 1: no motherfucker artists, Bro, are are I shouldn't bro, because
Speaker 1: I'm like what they're doing over there, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just need to find I need to find that. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? What if I got though? I
Speaker 1: know I know going on that blessing hold him now
Speaker 1: what I need I need to nig said, hey man,
Speaker 1: my home, my host. Look are you looking for a blessing?
Speaker 1: Man that type of nigh don't go ahead, but I
Speaker 1: ain't bless that's the blue bliss. I'm saying, like you
Speaker 1: see you go, you see y'all nigga out of hood. Okay,
Speaker 1: shot ready you're gonna go get you know you got
Speaker 1: your niggas got who turn like? That's all they need
Speaker 1: is a son they digital to stamp like that. We
Speaker 1: finally got them be brothers and turn them up. Because
Speaker 1: if you believe in the nigga that much, why do
Speaker 1: you want to invest? Should I do in the time?
Speaker 1: Time and none of the days time was enough? When
Speaker 1: you gonna be turned up? They do? But I mean,
Speaker 1: ship you want to do some nigga you don't want
Speaker 1: to do nigga? Everybody was that's the one they got introduced. Bro.
Speaker 1: It's different, it's changed. I ain't like then change Now
Speaker 1: the niggas is getting money. I ain't gonna lie, ain't
Speaker 1: so and that bring back to see your trust ship
Speaker 1: though he had he having his own motion and ship though,
Speaker 1: so when I came and I asked, like April, let's
Speaker 1: figure out something. But but I ain't gonna lie. I know,
Speaker 1: I know with our brain straight to me and without cause.
Speaker 1: I got, I gotta situation with it. I got situation
Speaker 1: where Atlantic still though to where I like I got,
Speaker 1: I got. I'm signed over there as the artist to
Speaker 1: Atlantic got them if you But they will though, but
Speaker 1: it's a process though, they still gotta wait, just like
Speaker 1: being with you first. Then we're gonna do all that
Speaker 1: if I believe, honestly, if I believe in the nigga
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna kick it to a nigga,
Speaker 1: A bro I got my situation in Atlantic broke, but
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. A lot of times niggers be
Speaker 1: getting turned off when you talk about major labels though,
Speaker 1: But I ain't got nothing bad to say about my label.
Speaker 1: Them niggas do whatever I asking to do. They cut
Speaker 1: me and check it by asked you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's that's how my studio got built. And ship, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's how I bought my Mama crib.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing bad to say about the Atlantic
Speaker 1: and ship though, you know what I'm saying. My my
Speaker 1: situation Atlantic they he loves you man. Whatever situation they
Speaker 1: gave it was fitting for the situation and still working
Speaker 1: right now though, you know what I'm saying. So but
Speaker 1: but like when like they get they get bad looks,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make your steal your nicklas or something. Get
Speaker 1: your R and B singles, No, look, look this the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Though honestly, bank Bank, I'd be out the way.
Speaker 1: Though I'd be out the way. I'll never go looking
Speaker 1: for nothing that first. So what do you get somebody?
Speaker 1: All that ship, but you don't do nothing for him?
Speaker 1: Like you give them all the ship to change a
Speaker 1: little bit of money to health cat all that ship,
Speaker 1: but you don't do nothing for their career like you
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, Like you don't help them actually do something.
Speaker 1: Don't that count for something? You mean you'll help him
Speaker 1: do it? You don't help them do nothing, like you
Speaker 1: don't introduce them, and some people do they give him
Speaker 1: the ship. But some people get gonna make that type
Speaker 1: of investment. Some people give some people give them ship.
Speaker 1: They can't do ship for the artists. They don't have
Speaker 1: the power to do. They don't have a power that's
Speaker 1: got the money and the ship. So you have a
Speaker 1: bunch of motherfucker's walk around looking like that you have
Speaker 1: money to turn the nigger up. You got that money.
Speaker 1: I don't mean you know if you got money. I
Speaker 1: don't mean you know, Jay Banks, don't nobody don't even
Speaker 1: let me. Damn y'all didn't let me face money down me.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm trying to talk what I said.
Speaker 1: If you if you got money, if you got that
Speaker 1: type of money to turning it up to that level,
Speaker 1: then you have enough money to be able to pay
Speaker 1: people to be put in place that no people and
Speaker 1: then know what to do. It. Still don't feel different
Speaker 1: broke trying to do that. It's broke as what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is it's sunny the felt, and
Speaker 1: I like both of your sides of it. But Sonny
Speaker 1: can go get some ship done for you. Bro It
Speaker 1: ain't just feel to be a chain and you're sending
Speaker 1: hold all that though, so you say you got out,
Speaker 1: I got to cover all of that. Man, I'm coming
Speaker 1: look you because you that kind of if you're a
Speaker 1: different type of CEO, that weed is a hundred of it.
Speaker 1: Now they can't buy that with time. It's the whole thing. Though.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, though, I think we're going over everybody here.
Speaker 1: I'm opportunity in this situation though, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I ain't saying you're going to sign on for starting.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you go sid and nigga who already got
Speaker 1: it a little b one chance. But even still this this,
Speaker 1: this is the the the messed up part for me though.
Speaker 1: When niggas is bubbling, they know they're bubbling and ship though,
Speaker 1: so they get officers and ship though. So like this,
Speaker 1: like when I come, I'm not gonna just I'm I'm
Speaker 1: afl of the situation. So I'm gonna be like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call the big dogs in, so we're gonna get
Speaker 1: atlantic in the situation and stuff. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like niggas don't wanna they don't wanna go there
Speaker 1: route I can. I can get you to the water,
Speaker 1: I can be I'm put you I'm gonna let you
Speaker 1: meet create, calm in the head, head hot. He can
Speaker 1: come whatever, check he won't. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I can put you there, I can put you in
Speaker 1: the front of any any lay. I can take you
Speaker 1: to anywhere. You know what I'm saying. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, people gotta look at it like like that though,
Speaker 1: But when they know he hot, don't you know he
Speaker 1: probably can get more and not look at the whole
Speaker 1: situation and ship though, Like what I can actually do
Speaker 1: for your situation though, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: like you know, you don't want to get what he's saying,
Speaker 1: but you don't get what I'm saying to your brand,
Speaker 1: to Digital son and Digital Club Digital that you feel
Speaker 1: attaching it to your brand, You gotta attach them to it, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta embrace like that what the niggas artists don't
Speaker 1: be blowing up because they treat these nigga like like
Speaker 1: you just like separate entities. How do you need to
Speaker 1: blow how do you need to blowing the niggas up?
Speaker 1: Because they showing its united. They like they're grabbing these
Speaker 1: niggas like, you know what I'm saying, that's the only
Speaker 1: way it's gonna work. But I ain't gonna lie bank.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that. I've been having the niggas everybody
Speaker 1: next to me. Bro, That's why nigga still sunk with
Speaker 1: me right now, get that pot up. I'm saying like,
Speaker 1: if you signed a rapper, like you don't sign the rapper.
Speaker 1: You can't just have him next to you, and you
Speaker 1: ain't got him next to you next year. That's why
Speaker 1: I won't even deal with it. Just depends. Like for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm coming on at this point. It's like
Speaker 1: am I gonna am I gonna be that guy? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be like a crib cowman handling business with you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I see something, man, you
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying, Like it's music, but
Speaker 1: it's still though you're a nigga, bro, change ship different
Speaker 1: if you have now if I was signing to Camp,
Speaker 1: it'll be different. I feel like, all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get us some money together. No matter what. Cam gotna,
Speaker 1: Cam don't care. You carry yourself like a guy. Them
Speaker 1: artists he man, he's being modest of it because I've
Speaker 1: been around him for too long. Anything Sunny got everybody
Speaker 1: around him know, they got access to it. I know that,
Speaker 1: so it's like he just got to fix it. You're
Speaker 1: just not saying that. So you know, if we're going
Speaker 1: out right now, if I'm your artists and you got
Speaker 1: five change, you know you're giving him one of the
Speaker 1: two change put on. That's just natural. You like like
Speaker 1: that stuff that different. I mean, I would say, you
Speaker 1: gotta just say that. You know you're gonna do that,
Speaker 1: you do that, But I'm not. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: because I feel like that. That's just things that just
Speaker 1: kind of naturally come to me. Though. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if I do got an artist, of course,
Speaker 1: if we go out, I'm taking this off. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna outshine this. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm He's saying. You can't look like that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah you ain't walking so so so a
Speaker 1: little bull so so a little right even the way
Speaker 1: the way I'd be thinking about this ship though, Like
Speaker 1: so when I have I had my artist cute at
Speaker 1: the time though. Remember que Also, I always felt like
Speaker 1: he was a better rapper than me though, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was like, I'm gonna have him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a project together though, just so he
Speaker 1: can stand hold on, wait a minute, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like he was a better lyricist, like as
Speaker 1: far as like you know, like look, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everything like he has, So it was like
Speaker 1: I want I put him next to me so he
Speaker 1: can outshine you though, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it was always It's always like I'm doing what's in
Speaker 1: favor for everybody else though, because I do know my position.
Speaker 1: I'm producing, or I just like this ship though I like.
Speaker 1: I like things I like though, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna get straight um Stunn on the
Speaker 1: nigger or cut off access to a nigga. I'm you
Speaker 1: saw twenty one man, you got done that signed to me? Bro?
Speaker 1: You like, like Cam'm said, you do, got access to everything.
Speaker 1: I got to take the Bentley. I don't care to
Speaker 1: take that where you are. That's like, take take any anything.
Speaker 1: All this ship material bro, let's make up, let makes exactly, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I come in. I can't just be in the studio
Speaker 1: over shaking, trying to face what's what's what's your what's
Speaker 1: your think? Create better music though hungry shaking that type
Speaker 1: of ship or turned up. I'm just serious. You need
Speaker 1: comfortability for both niggas. Ain't bro, who's who's hosting when
Speaker 1: they home? You gotta think about what nigga you got
Speaker 1: a different world, That's a fact. Paintish painting struggle music
Speaker 1: got popular to paint over with. Don't get what all
Speaker 1: these kings who are saying that paying ship they're still
Speaker 1: holding up them right, ain't know what you don't It
Speaker 1: don't matter what what artists you signed. When we when
Speaker 1: I signed artists to my label, we give twenty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars up front. But you gotta do that. Photographers, you
Speaker 1: have that comfortable feel like I just moved up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they say, like that day I go that way happened.
Speaker 1: So so look give me some up now. Look even
Speaker 1: like all right, so I'm really a advocate about that
Speaker 1: ship though I've been on something. I've been preaching about
Speaker 1: niggas getting their checks and ship though, like they get
Speaker 1: your money and ship though, so I know, even like
Speaker 1: dealing with the artists, why I can't sign them directly though,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to the big facilitate you to
Speaker 1: go get a bigger check though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So that that's what that's really why I stand that
Speaker 1: with with like technically signed an artist though, but even
Speaker 1: like with producers and stuff, like I said, I've been
Speaker 1: such an advocate on like man, I've been in fund
Speaker 1: up deals and ship though. I'm like, man, shouldn't nobody
Speaker 1: sign anything anything without any type of monetary exchange to
Speaker 1: it too? Though you know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: know if you signed anything and they need to get something,
Speaker 1: So like with my producers right now, I know producers,
Speaker 1: they'll be ready to sign for nothing. I put a
Speaker 1: piece of paper in front of you. There they're signed
Speaker 1: this ship. Don't matter what it's on it long just
Speaker 1: say Sunny did toping. They name it the Bodoee that
Speaker 1: that go like that though producers ain't even like I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't let you normalize that. He's saying, like, just
Speaker 1: if you go get a producer, like how you are
Speaker 1: seventeen years old of your basement, fresh out your mouth, Bro,
Speaker 1: he go tenth, don't. I'm gonna get you some placement
Speaker 1: we're producing. You're gonna start getting money immediately if you're
Speaker 1: beating into him. It's different with the rap. Nah, broe Nah,
Speaker 1: you ain't getting that money immediately. Bro. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: from from my standpoint. Man need nigga is starving. Bro,
Speaker 1: you get a hit, you ain't seeing no money from
Speaker 1: that motherfucker them that year after that, publishing publishing base.
Speaker 1: Ain't no time if I've been broke seventeen years already,
Speaker 1: ain't no time. But but but but but what you
Speaker 1: gotta understand though, I feel you, though, But it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: imagine you having a hit. You know you got that
Speaker 1: hit once, you know you got that hit, and then
Speaker 1: mother going up. You got big jugs and big jugs
Speaker 1: and folks and come people. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. Let me tell you that's that's a
Speaker 1: deadly game. Now right there. We're talking about hits. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm talking from the perspective of like first hit. Though.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, first hit, they're gonna hit
Speaker 1: you with some bullshit, bro, you know what's saying because
Speaker 1: they don't even know if're gonna get another hit after
Speaker 1: this ship though, So they're gonna they're gonna hit you
Speaker 1: with it, and I'm coming in like they're gonna. If
Speaker 1: you're coming in, you're coming off. They offer you do
Speaker 1: on your first hit, they ain't gonna get you. Ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get what you're posted agetting to until you got
Speaker 1: your second hit up on the board, third hit on
Speaker 1: the board or something like that though, So it'd be
Speaker 1: some bullshit up until then though. But even still, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand how the ship feeling now as a producer, though,
Speaker 1: the niggas ain't getting paid them that year later after
Speaker 1: this songe hit though, But the rapper that song that're
Speaker 1: doing shows living life. But put fairness to the cult
Speaker 1: of the producer ain't got to really be out. I
Speaker 1: don't need you needn't go number one, so so keep
Speaker 1: doing it. So yeah, that's right, that right though, But
Speaker 1: you're right to to a certain degree if you're that
Speaker 1: type producer that don't you know, you don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you want, if you
Speaker 1: want your money to come every now months after the
Speaker 1: hit come out, and fine, you do that, but you
Speaker 1: gotta get your door war and for that money that
Speaker 1: got down, keep you floating and ship. So it's all
Speaker 1: been about being a hustler because once I got this hit, Okay,
Speaker 1: once I got this sunny, all these niggas in need
Speaker 1: little towels want that sunny, my bag. I'm hustler. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, what you're talking about. I did
Speaker 1: that because like these niggas ain't you know, I don't
Speaker 1: really at the time, I didn't. I didn't know Future.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know why. I see, they didn't know
Speaker 1: each other. No, it was a whole one man that
Speaker 1: didn't know each other. So it was like there wasn't
Speaker 1: no means for anybody to help each other, saying chemistry
Speaker 1: wasn't there. There wasn't no like chemistry until like well
Speaker 1: with me and Future after the after the direct on
Speaker 1: recks really are like kind of in the mixing ship though,
Speaker 1: But nobody really knew each other though, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: knowing centing for nobody to help each other as far
Speaker 1: as putting Nick out though, So like I'm sitting like
Speaker 1: I ain't even got my tag on the ship though,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, y C, you make sure you're
Speaker 1: shot me out the radio station when you go up
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But that ain't what going on. Niggas
Speaker 1: trying to get their shot up the ground too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They're like this nigga. So once
Speaker 1: I figured that out, and I won't an't mad, I like,
Speaker 1: I understand. I just gotta figure out how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this ship too, So I'm gonna let know the
Speaker 1: type ship. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna let y'all know, like,
Speaker 1: oh me, like we're doing this, that's how we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it, you know, and like what we're really coming.
Speaker 1: My ass was coming with another one. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That first one was cool and then
Speaker 1: we really really coming. My was just coming with the
Speaker 1: next one. Like okay, this nigga he here, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like that ship that that producer
Speaker 1: ship man like produces that ship alone shot to the
Speaker 1: rap on tobody when you got the like, shout out
Speaker 1: my producer because I fun with all, but I know
Speaker 1: you funked with the producers. Cake Heavy, Yeah that's my brother.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like you got more patient than
Speaker 1: a rapper. Once I come out here as a rapper.
Speaker 1: I gotta be a rapper then sing the bayment and
Speaker 1: got them banging my bang. I got something to do
Speaker 1: two thousand beats. You don't take me nothing to do.
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta be in front of the camera, still
Speaker 1: trying to be no rapper ever, do me two thousand
Speaker 1: beats and gonna play with two thousand? Ye nigga dropp
Speaker 1: a song? You as a rapper, How you look to,
Speaker 1: how you look to you know what I'm saying, what
Speaker 1: you're doing, So I don't need something I never even like,
Speaker 1: like for real, just to even think about it right now.
Speaker 1: I never had the conversation like with the artists even
Speaker 1: here from this damn point though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's usually me bringing more to it though, so
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of being selfish though, but not
Speaker 1: trying to like I was just kind of being like
Speaker 1: one side of like, okay, is I'm bringing the value
Speaker 1: to the situation though I never really like, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say I didn't mind. I didn't want to take
Speaker 1: anybody at pinion then though. But it's like I got
Speaker 1: this ship figured out though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So It's like I never really took in consideration and
Speaker 1: how artists would feel about this ship though, so you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So so like that's your me
Speaker 1: just not knowing this ship though, Like so you know,
Speaker 1: like rapper because that's a that ship is a hard job.
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, like in this day and time, like
Speaker 1: you gotta keep up with it. Like nigger, they ain't posting,
Speaker 1: ain't got got no money, by no clothes, bro. Anytime
Speaker 1: you time you po you friend, what you ain't ain't
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna live. And then then ain't story you
Speaker 1: got on? You don't fell off three days and they
Speaker 1: feel like you don't fell off a forever, especially if
Speaker 1: that's how you got on, especially came out like and
Speaker 1: then I know like it would be a lot of
Speaker 1: prey ship too with with like the rappers and ship
Speaker 1: though with the people that be around, I'll also be
Speaker 1: seeing that too, because you know, people might look at
Speaker 1: people might look at the situation bigger than what it is,
Speaker 1: and you know, start telling the artists man yo son
Speaker 1: of yo, Man's like what's going on? Yeah? And then
Speaker 1: like sunny Year is my man's you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like It's all good though, man, get a rope. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm still open to working with artists though too, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not against it, like you know, I just like
Speaker 1: I said, just like you never did a whole like
Speaker 1: a whole project with somebody like yeah, I did it
Speaker 1: with a Savage, I did one with um. We did
Speaker 1: that shop with McConney. Everything was like it was the
Speaker 1: type of ships, like we was all working together, like
Speaker 1: we was all honed in and stuff like um. But
Speaker 1: right now, nowadays, I'm not really like big on doing
Speaker 1: whole projects no more like I feel more comfortable probably
Speaker 1: coming in and doing like one or two beats or something,
Speaker 1: and I want to bring another produce. I'm really good
Speaker 1: at putting together projects, you know what saying. I could
Speaker 1: put together some good as ship though, Like I can
Speaker 1: put it together for you know, you can bring me
Speaker 1: your ship broken up, I'll tell you what to due.
Speaker 1: We put that ship back together and put it out
Speaker 1: and had that ship ready to go. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I might come in and produce on some
Speaker 1: certain of ships if I need to, But for the
Speaker 1: most part, like right now, I ain't even got the
Speaker 1: time to like sit down and just do one project
Speaker 1: unless it's like, unless it's like one of the ones though,
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, the artist who gonna get us
Speaker 1: up out of there, and it's gonna do numbers and stuff.
Speaker 1: But to build up part like getting the new artists
Speaker 1: and stuff, it's kind of hard to lock in and
Speaker 1: just do one project just sold me. I could produce
Speaker 1: it and put together for you though, but not actually
Speaker 1: sit down in the studio and do it every day
Speaker 1: with you though, you know. And on top of that too,
Speaker 1: I just feel like when when a lot of them
Speaker 1: sounds the new tapes would be kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a musical person though, so I like it to
Speaker 1: sound different, you know what I'm saying. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of ship that we kind of like when when it's
Speaker 1: one sounds, it's one sound, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to see how somebody sound like over
Speaker 1: another producer's beat, you know what I'm saying, and just
Speaker 1: you know, get a new vibe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I'm, like I said, I'm here for the opportunity
Speaker 1: to so I always try to bring in new people
Speaker 1: into the situation, you know. So if we're doing a
Speaker 1: project or something, I see an opportunity for other producers
Speaker 1: to get in and you know, potentially like get a
Speaker 1: placement in their eyes and stuff. You know. So that's
Speaker 1: how I kind of work the situation versus me just
Speaker 1: being in there. I feel like like kind of like
Speaker 1: how Mike will do. And if it is some producer
Speaker 1: that's fired though the owner, I probably end up signing
Speaker 1: the type ship though, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so look with my producers, so look, look, look I
Speaker 1: can show you, I can I can show you my
Speaker 1: my my last, my last ship. Though, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm an advocate on getting everybody pay because I was.
Speaker 1: I was in the situation though, So as far as
Speaker 1: like you know, coming from producers standpoint, So with my
Speaker 1: producers right now, I'm giving them many advanced for show
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know, I know, I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm giving the producers. I would have to add
Speaker 1: extra zero on top of that to make it for
Speaker 1: the artist and ship though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like the producers and stuff, you know, give them
Speaker 1: a little ten fifteen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just in the house all they make crazy, but he'll team.
Speaker 1: But we've been to get you on better. You try
Speaker 1: to make such an album type ship beat, Bro, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. We made this ship right back. You're signed
Speaker 1: to me too. How much you selling beats for right now?
Speaker 1: Five dollars you're signed me, Bro. We're gonna study home
Speaker 1: forty racks. Bro. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna
Speaker 1: make the money. We're gonna make all the money back though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so like and that that
Speaker 1: that's so that's just a producer fee too, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then then we talked about the royalties
Speaker 1: to not and you know, a year later the ship though,
Speaker 1: you know, that's when your money start rolling in. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You get do, get your sound.
Speaker 1: Once you get your sound happen once you hot, you hot,
Speaker 1: you in. Yeah, you know, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: produce a tag ship going now, But I mean back
Speaker 1: then that that ship was like a major, major little
Speaker 1: thing for us to get known, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and have people know who he is and get some
Speaker 1: extra money and stuff, because like every time they hear
Speaker 1: the song, they hear your name Yeah, another thing I
Speaker 1: was doing to I would DJ and this ship I
Speaker 1: was going to doing all The producer studded, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt bad because I like this ship. It was too
Speaker 1: simple though. I feel like I'm contact somebody your job, really, DJ.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't a real DJ.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Too easy, too easy, d
Speaker 1: J screen, you know what I'm saying. Going on the stage,
Speaker 1: I'm getting by like Tim Rex. I'll have it though
Speaker 1: what Sunday and Metro was DJ and I was like
Speaker 1: I fought with it, but I actually I learned. I
Speaker 1: learned how to do it. You want to be DJ? Ship?
Speaker 1: Just mean I need to make bees. I can't be
Speaker 1: mad at this. I feel like, man, hey man, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm taking somebody's job. Man. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: somebody couldn't do this ship. What's next for you? Uh?
Speaker 1: People ask me that it's just maintaining keeping this ship going,
Speaker 1: like like when you see yourself though, like I know
Speaker 1: you got goals and playing. I've seen it a little
Speaker 1: bit White Boys, and I mean the goal is uh
Speaker 1: from studio side camp CRAEC Studios, is to bring that
Speaker 1: that same style across the world. So we're trying to
Speaker 1: open up more locations and um, different cities, different states.
Speaker 1: So from now when I want that to eventually be
Speaker 1: like when you think of creative especially within our culture
Speaker 1: music industry, you gotta shoot your stuff at a Camp
Speaker 1: Craik studios. So that's on that and on Collective Gallery
Speaker 1: of my label, we want to be as big as
Speaker 1: every other label was the biggest Death Jam, biggest QC, biggest,
Speaker 1: everybody else doing it but for photographers. So that whole
Speaker 1: game plan is just the level of playing field, like
Speaker 1: where it's like it could be more photographers sitting here
Speaker 1: in this share I'm at, and it won't be normal.
Speaker 1: It won't be abnormal. It's like, oh we're talking to
Speaker 1: they got that shot, this cover, they got to this,
Speaker 1: and we got a lot to offer as well from
Speaker 1: a content standpoint. So for the label Collective Gallery, the
Speaker 1: goal is to blow that up. I mean I want
Speaker 1: to see ten more labels about in the next year.
Speaker 1: I want other people doing it so then it's legit
Speaker 1: because that's another revenue train for photographers to get in
Speaker 1: and get some support. Um. And then on a personal level, man,
Speaker 1: I just want to be as big as I could
Speaker 1: be and be as positive as I can be, And
Speaker 1: I really just want to do things that's gonna change
Speaker 1: the world, like in other ways other than just what
Speaker 1: we do within the culture, like I invest in stuff
Speaker 1: within the community, Like our partner with Sprite we put
Speaker 1: out fifty dollars to put out trash cans and recycling
Speaker 1: bins and bad neighborhoods just to like clean up the
Speaker 1: litter to trash. Like I'm meant to like more than
Speaker 1: just what we do within the music industry, I want
Speaker 1: to take this following and do some better good for it.
Speaker 1: So hopefully within the next couple of years you'll start
Speaker 1: to see more things I do directly in the city
Speaker 1: that you could be like we got that because Cam
Speaker 1: did that, or this and that. So what we've got
Speaker 1: ship bro just working my side, a couple of artists, Hey,
Speaker 1: man zoom, just man on me, Man, you want to sign?
Speaker 1: Are you're right so way you don't want to know it?
Speaker 1: Man and turning. I'm trying to tell he got the
Speaker 1: playing over there, Man, he got the player said right
Speaker 1: in the mix. Man, Yeah you see here a good
Speaker 1: mixed too, though, because he got he got, he got
Speaker 1: the money and he got the he got the outlet
Speaker 1: to get them right there, like he got um, what's
Speaker 1: buddy name on? I can't tip my my schwits. He
Speaker 1: got tired in ba pocket tired, you know, tired he
Speaker 1: up there, You know what I'm saying, So he can't
Speaker 1: Man if you're tired and I'm gucci, I got the
Speaker 1: new audists right here, don't meet some money for her?
Speaker 1: Boom boom. You know what I'm saying and sending up
Speaker 1: through there. You know I ain't gonna say tired all though,
Speaker 1: but you you're a bit part here, big part in
Speaker 1: that situation, tied is that nigked for real? We're doing
Speaker 1: salute salute, salute, salute. Appreciate you'all pulling up. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Cam Kurt must continue success. Did you
Speaker 1: bringing some ship too? Yeah? Okay, let me you got
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Speaker 1: Let me get one of the boxes. You got some
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