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Speaker 1: Big Man and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts, the

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Speaker 1: class sounds. You know who it is. DJ Scream, Big Bank,

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Speaker 1: Baby Jay cam Kirk is here too. It's time for

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Speaker 1: another edition of Big Facts. What's up people, everybody feeling

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Speaker 1: I missed you all? Man? You missed us? Where we go?

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Speaker 1: I missed a man? Where we go? I don't know?

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Speaker 1: But wherever hell your word, y'all were truly missed in

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Speaker 1: my heart man Likewise Jwise coming back again, but just

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Speaker 1: be happy to be welcome. Cam Kirk Man, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: kicking with us today. I mean you're familiar with Big Facts,

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Speaker 1: so you know we're gonna get into whatever we need

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Speaker 1: to get into. You know what I'm saying. I'm excited. Yeah, ready,

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Speaker 1: let's start. Let's start with a little bit of bragging

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Speaker 1: rights man, Oh, who all have you shot for? Who

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Speaker 1: are is Cam Kirk shot for? It? Like, put some

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Speaker 1: of them names out there because you're very, you know,

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Speaker 1: very big part of a lot of people's image and

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Speaker 1: their photography and everything, like or you can just say

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Speaker 1: the world minus the world everybody like, Yeah, I've been blessed.

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Speaker 1: I've had a blessed, a blessed career, nine years doing

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Speaker 1: it UM. Most notably in music, I shot UM. I'm

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Speaker 1: known for my work with Gucci, Man The Future, Young

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Speaker 1: Scooter One, Savage, metro Booman, Ray Schremmer, Mike Will. Pretty

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Speaker 1: much have had to honor to work where everybody coming

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Speaker 1: out to a bigger, small and then on on a

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Speaker 1: company standpoint, which I like to brag about more. It's

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Speaker 1: like Nike, Adidas, Poma, Airbnb, Um, yeah yeah yeah for

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Speaker 1: the money really yeah, what you really want to be

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Speaker 1: at the NBA? Uh? Projects like that, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: definitely super excited about as well. How do you start?

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Speaker 1: How you start off a big number? Campra Man. I

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Speaker 1: picked up a camera first because I thought I was

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Speaker 1: gonna be a party promoter. I was always going to

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Speaker 1: be a concert thrower. So in college I booked with

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Speaker 1: Khalifa for a concert It's two thou and ten, and

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Speaker 1: I was really just working around to be honest, like

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Speaker 1: I had never done anything UM in Atlanta. I was

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Speaker 1: just a college student and I had this opportunity. I

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Speaker 1: booked him. I took out a student loan and after

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Speaker 1: the concert, like I was trying to take a picture

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Speaker 1: with him, my phone was dead, all my friends had left.

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Speaker 1: At this time, I was like cleaning up the space.

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Speaker 1: And after that, I was just like, man, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go buy a camera. So next time I do event,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a camera. I'm gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: take a picture with him. Guy's literally as far as

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Speaker 1: I thought about it. And um, after I did that concert,

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Speaker 1: a lot of local artists started to hit me up,

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Speaker 1: like yo, who are you? What do you do? So

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Speaker 1: I actually got into managing the artist. And then while

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Speaker 1: enaging the artist, I was like, shoot, I'm gonna just

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Speaker 1: use this camera on you. And then from there, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just found a way to make you know, fifty

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Speaker 1: bucks a hunting bucks, just shooting him, his friends, other people,

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Speaker 1: and then it just became something that I fell in

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Speaker 1: love with for people trying to come up. Though, I

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Speaker 1: think the dopest thing is that you you you created

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Speaker 1: like you you created that, like you went like I remember,

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Speaker 1: he created the culture. That's what I'm saying. Every time

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Speaker 1: you see Metro, you see him taking the pictures. Like

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Speaker 1: he didn't ask for no hand out. He damned there

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Speaker 1: didn't even talk like, no, no, I didn't know your

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Speaker 1: name for a long time. I don't know homie with

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Speaker 1: the camera, you know what I'm saying. But he made

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Speaker 1: show he got get him in metro confused back in

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Speaker 1: there like that ship was crazy. No, I appreciated that, Like, uh,

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of you all on my on my

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Speaker 1: come up definitely is special. And I just always love

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Speaker 1: Atlantic for embracing me, like, you know, just being a

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Speaker 1: was important just to document what I was seeing and

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Speaker 1: not I actually try to disrupt it do too much.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was super quiet, kid, I wasn't talking

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Speaker 1: So how do how do? How do? How do? How

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Speaker 1: do they work? Like like what they call it when

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Speaker 1: they were talking about the last time, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I I ain't got into it yet, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: but I'm working on something right now. Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Just looking into it, it sounds like something interesting because

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Speaker 1: on the internet. You know. Once I posted to Instagram,

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Speaker 1: it's being ripped by every magazine posted here here. Like

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Speaker 1: I just look at people's phones. Sometimes they have a

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Speaker 1: photo I took as a screen saving. I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: just did not give you that photo. I can't give

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Speaker 1: you rights for none of that. So the idea of

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Speaker 1: an n f T for me as a content creator

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Speaker 1: is it's something that I'm interested in because it's really

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Speaker 1: a way that I can control the rights and control

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Speaker 1: how people are using my work online, which is something

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Speaker 1: that most photographers struggle with. To this day. I mean

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Speaker 1: some of the photos y'all know that's famous that I took.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really make no money off of it, besides

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Speaker 1: maybe the day I got paid for doing it, or

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So the idea of something

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Speaker 1: giving me royalties on a digital use sound amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: Um show, That's why I brought it up. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got legendary pictures that you can if you just say,

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Speaker 1: then you do a photo shoot with somebody and you

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Speaker 1: get them to shoot a single picture and you made that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we can make a lot of money together, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like for sure, but for me, like

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Speaker 1: I look at myself, it's also like a leader to

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Speaker 1: here in general. So it's important that I know it

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Speaker 1: before I started to jump out there and say this

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Speaker 1: is what I'm doing. So I'm in that phase right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking to a bunch of companies and just

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Speaker 1: then say all right, this is how you can actually

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Speaker 1: do it, because it's gonna get tricky. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: artists don't always understand this n f T stuff. So

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Speaker 1: that's always been a tricky part for photography, is like

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Speaker 1: how do I monetize this? Like if I take a

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Speaker 1: and you see I sold it for fifty tho, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I'm gonna get a call from you, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, even though technically and the way the

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Speaker 1: way it worked copies, right, I own it. Like if

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Speaker 1: we really wanted to go to war, I'm gonna probably

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Speaker 1: win in the court of law. But it's tricky, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you gotta you gotta save

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Speaker 1: that relationship. Yeah, sometimes it ain't worth it. An email

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Speaker 1: when we did a little photo shooting, you like you

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Speaker 1: want to retain the rights ownership? Yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: for somebody else to use it, Like they gotta come

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Speaker 1: to you. Fact because the third party, it's really what

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Speaker 1: you're doing for because that shop, we just deal with

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Speaker 1: a little one that turned out super fire. He wearing

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Speaker 1: call him wearing Psachi. We're gonna sell this photo to

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Speaker 1: PSACH for a million. No, you can't do that. No,

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Speaker 1: that's so you got to own it in order to

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, over and over for years

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Speaker 1: and years and years, and you don't get nothing off

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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, nothing to beyond. Yeah, and you hold

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Speaker 1: an artist for real for that matter. So you do

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Speaker 1: then what labels when he gets to the real money

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Speaker 1: and budgets like that costs money. It's a price for everything.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to own something that's like a

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Speaker 1: masters for a music artist, there's a price for it

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Speaker 1: if you want to own it. But if not, then

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Speaker 1: let's just do this little license deal. You can use

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Speaker 1: it forever long you want, and after that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, you give it back to me. Basically,

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Speaker 1: learn all this ship just coming up, like having lawyers

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Speaker 1: and ship coming up through the runt man mistakes, you know,

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Speaker 1: my best friend is a lawyer. He protects other people's rights.

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Speaker 1: So as we're coming up, he learned and stuff in

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Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna sue him. You can try, you

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Speaker 1: the day. So you gotta know when to pick and

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Speaker 1: choose your battles. Like I've walked into Urban outfitters and

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Speaker 1: seeing my work like on a shirt hmm, but it

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Speaker 1: was an artist and I'm tired you with So it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like he may not understand

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Speaker 1: this ship is supposed to go. If I call him out,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be like he ain't gonna understand it. Like

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Speaker 1: I paid you, I paid you for the shoot. You

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Speaker 1: paid me for the shoot, but you ain't paid, just

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Speaker 1: go do whatever you want to do with it. So

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Speaker 1: especially in Atlanta. Yeah, Atlanta, they don't understand that. So

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Speaker 1: it's like you really got to pick and choose. They

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Speaker 1: spend all their money and when it get fresh and

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Speaker 1: all this ship, theyse's face. Yeah, photo expected. You can

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Speaker 1: choose my battles like you got it. You can use

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Speaker 1: it for that. That's cool, but you're not not necessarily

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Speaker 1: supposed to, you know what I mean. But what do

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Speaker 1: you think that you should try to? Uh, Like when

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Speaker 1: you do shoot with niggas, you should tell them like look, bro,

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Speaker 1: the big niggas like bro, you did brood makes some

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Speaker 1: moneyut of these kids. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But it's again,

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Speaker 1: it's just tricky. It's tricky because you got these other

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Speaker 1: also keep it real. I'm blessed that Atlanta embraced me

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Speaker 1: and I carry myself a certain type of way, but

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Speaker 1: he's fired. He's young, he's like twenty years old. He's

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00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna blow up crazy. The truth, the whole truth, and

427
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: nothing but the truth. Joining the big fast conversation as

428
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,480
Speaker 1: well is the one the only son you know. Sunny

429
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: Digital has stepped in Shotter Quest, the world famous quest,

430
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,679
Speaker 1: Travis part up in What's What's up? Up? What's up?

431
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: Sunny Man? We give We're giving Flowers the dope creators today.

432
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So y'all to the dopest creators, y'all,

433
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: y'all Flowers on the walk game. Yeah, doing y'all thing

434
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: I've been. I've been telling that I've been. I've never

435
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: seen y'all like together, but y'all doing y'all things. That's

436
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: a funny. Y'all did it from the ground up. Y'all

437
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:54,119
Speaker 1: got this rock ship going a little man. I appreciate it,

438
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 1: may do it a little. So we're talking to count

439
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: about some of the many of names that he worked with.

440
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people might not know, so we won't

441
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: make them hips. So but let him know, like sunny Digital.

442
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of hits. Let him know some

443
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: of these people name some of the hits. Give us

444
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 1: about five or ten like cut the mindesty and popular

445
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: ship now, Like I just honestly I'll be forgetting man. Okay,

446
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: let's future same, She's the same damn time right, X

447
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: and Rex was the first one racks on Racks Okay, yeah,

448
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: opened up the doors and wrapped it. That we did

449
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah birthday song change, and that we did the mccoonan Tuesday.

450
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: How we get hold of stuff? I would just I

451
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie like it. So it'd be so hard

452
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: for me to name out the accolades though, because when

453
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 1: when we was taking these shots and doing all this stuff,

454
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: it was like it wasn't for what it is today,

455
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: Like like I had tweeted some ship like a couple

456
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Like when you're doing legendary ship, you

457
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: just you never know you're doing that ship until, like

458
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you look back on it

459
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: and see what it is, What was the impact on

460
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 1: everybody else? Like when I when I was like really

461
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: just in it, bro, we was in it, just having fun.

462
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: So I never really looked back on my accolades, like

463
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: on something man, look what that guy? Or look what

464
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 1: that did? You know what I'm saying, But I had

465
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: to feel good when you got your first plaque. It

466
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: felt good getting my last. Always see that ship come

467
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: to your front though that you know what the box

468
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: is really that that's always a good feeling. Like I'm

469
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lie getting getting those. I feel a lot

470
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: better than me just talking about it and ship though,

471
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like something that I ain't

472
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: even got to talking about, Like when I got I

473
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: got all my plexic my studio, when people come in there,

474
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: they just be amazed and ship though, you know, you know,

475
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: I ain't really gotta do too much talking at that point,

476
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: you know. But but let's keep it real, though, do

477
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: you feel like sometimes and I think we had this conversation,

478
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: and do you feel like sometimes people leave you out

479
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: of the conversation of Atlanta's great producers because people will

480
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: be around and their name names and I have to

481
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: throw your name, don't forget sunny, you know what I'm saying.

482
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: And it's a little to everybody doing to everybody bro,

483
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: you know, like but of course, though I know I

484
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: know that that's just how it is though. But I

485
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: feel like that's just like the type of person I am.

486
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: No were like, I'm not gonna sound forgettable though, but

487
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: I do just be in the cut, just doing what

488
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: I need to do and stuff though, you know. But

489
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: like I've seen that. I've seen like a little picture

490
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: going around with the little Mountain Rushmore with all the

491
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 1: producers and shipped on it, and you know, I'm gonna

492
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: be a real nigger about it, so I've seen it.

493
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: It was I believe it was Metro Sizzle had a

494
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: blank space and they had Pierre on there and they

495
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: was talking about the early tens. I was like, man,

496
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: it's they are rays start off on their own foot

497
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: by like throwing Pierre in that mixed though because he

498
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: didn't come out there earlier. He came out a little

499
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: later and stuff though, so that that was already kind

500
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: of wrong right there. I was like, man, I should

501
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: have It would have been a respectable look to have,

502
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: probably like Lex to somebody on there who was like,

503
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: really like you know what, like you and Lex or

504
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: you and Spins or you know what I'm saying, somebody

505
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: like that. I wouldn't even necessarily throw myself in there

506
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: because it was a lot of even Mike Well. I

507
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: was like, Mike, Mike, you know how long we've been

508
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: riding before I had ship going. But like even Mike,

509
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Mike willdo like it was a lot of us that

510
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: came out, so basically we need to put some more

511
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: heads on the mountain. I was thinking about taking it.

512
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: It was a good idea. I've seen that that picture

513
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: online with the mural and ship. I was like, shout,

514
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I might take and go get that ship put on.

515
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: Have somebody painting on one of these walls and ship though,

516
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: but the right way over everybody makes supposed to be

517
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: on it, and ship though, Like it's it's a it's

518
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: a wall that you can rent out there. They do

519
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: murles on over there on north Side Drive with the

520
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: water boys being right there. It's a big as it's

521
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: a big as wall. I had thought about it, like yesterday,

522
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I might just just rent it out

523
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: for like a month and paint the little ship on

524
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: that ship, you know what I'm saying, and do it

525
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: the right way. I wasn't eve gonna tell nobody I

526
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: was gonna do it. I was just gonna just like

527
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: this this high is supposed to be. Are you caught

528
00:24:53,400 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: the hit? Ship bro um before my started making beats

529
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: when I was like twelve thirteen, So from from all

530
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: the weapon to their up until I was like nineteen

531
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: and ship that was it was grind. Oh but you

532
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: know coming in so young like that, which I'll be

533
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: trying to like tell like these young kids and I

534
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: feel like they're listening now, they don't seem so much

535
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: of a grind. It's like most of a hobby though

536
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: because I was, I wasn't. It wasn't nothing I had

537
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: to pay for the time. I was still my mom

538
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: and ship though, you know what I'm saying, Like it

539
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: wasn't no no overhead and ship, so it was a hobby.

540
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: Like so when other things be out there playing basketball

541
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: or my brother and then played the video game and

542
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 1: ship though my hobby and be making beats. So it

543
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: didn't seem like a grind at the time. Though. When

544
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: it became a grind is when you get your hit. Yeah,

545
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: that's when they would come a ground when the ship

546
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: get real. Now is your job now go up? You

547
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: gotta keep this ship up. That's really the hard the

548
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: hard part. Everybody crying about getting in and ship though,

549
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: but ship, maintain this ship is like I ain't gonna

550
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: say the hardest part though, but nigs be forgetting that

551
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: part though, you know what I'm saying, Like, you got

552
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: to maintain this ship. Like once you get a hit,

553
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna another one. Once you get another head, you're

554
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna need another one. Once you get another head, you're

555
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: gonna get another one. You know what I'm saying, This

556
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: ship like, you gotta prove yourself constantly though a lot

557
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: of like I'm God trying to get them hit on,

558
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: God trying to get them fucking with that money, you know,

559
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: your lifestyle changing that money start coming in too, and

560
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: then you create a you create a um what you

561
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: call it. You create something for yourself where you create

562
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: the way people look at you. Nothing from Cuban, Juban.

563
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm only doing that. I'm stopped doing this like I'm

564
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm doing this. I've been I've been shot.

565
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but you don't set the ball for yourself.

566
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't go smaller than this now. I

567
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: do that intentionally for myself too, though, you know what

568
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because it's like ship, the lad to change

569
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: I went and bought this ship with expensive as hell,

570
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: but like ship, I got get back to work now,

571
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like this ship wasn't this ship?

572
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: You can get back in this studio as soon as

573
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: I bought this mother for the first place out with

574
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: inspirationally make them money, Like okay, ship, you know all

575
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: this ship costs though, But like I said, like really

576
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: maintaining all this ship your lifestyle like that that's really

577
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: the hard part. Don't we get into this ship though,

578
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, Like so this is what I wanted all so,

579
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: like you know, like a lot of like top tier

580
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: producers such as yourself, are like studio junkies. They stay

581
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: in the studio whatever whatever. But you go out. You

582
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I see you at night often,

583
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and you do, like you

584
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: move around and like you you're like a lot of

585
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: different places. So how does that being out and like

586
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: being around and actually being on the scene, how does

587
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: that kind of like bolster your creativity? Alright, being on

588
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: the scene, that's the show, Like it helps out the

589
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: creativity though, But when I'm out, honestly, like it's bigger

590
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: than being a producer. It's bringing yourself. So like I

591
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: go out show my let people know that I'm a

592
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: real person, because there's a lot of people don't even

593
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: know Sunny digital real person. They think that I do

594
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: all that, you know, it's all branding and stuff, you know,

595
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: so people see my face putting that face to the

596
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: name and ship though, you know, like and I've been

597
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: doing that though, and I just I just enjoy going out.

598
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a people person, but I just be cooling,

599
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I do like to

600
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: be out, you know. So but like me like going

601
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: on trips, going to l A, going like to anywhere.

602
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: You know, I take all that, like what I see

603
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: in my experiences and stuff, and I kind of just

604
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: translated through the music and stuff. Like I kind of do.

605
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Got to travel a lot to to make good music.

606
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: You know. I gotta see certain things to be exposed.

607
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Certain things feel a certain type of way, you know,

608
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: when I'm at home. I'm at home, you know what

609
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's easy to work here. But you know,

610
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't say burnt myself out being here over but

611
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: I s everything here. You know, my life here, you know,

612
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like it ain't just the studio

613
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: no more. I'm thirty now, So like I got a

614
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: kid and ship though I got, I got, I got,

615
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: I got my own studio that you know, I gotta

616
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: uphold to you know you still you still have the

617
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: same spot, punch, Because that's the next question I want

618
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: to ask everybody. How important is it to find the

619
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: right spot to work out of? Like you got a

620
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: legendary spot, you're still at that spot? No, damn, you

621
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: know what, I'm the hardest sunny digital beasts you ever

622
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: gave me in the world. That's whatever was going on

623
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: in that spot. I never went in, but maybe he

624
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: came outside and gave me tim beats cam about shot

625
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: a video in there for for me and you, but

626
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of his I kicked out that motherfucker. Imagine, bro,

627
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: somebody I wouldn't even have Somebody shot a gun in

628
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: the in the crib and then went through the floor

629
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: through the bottom. Yeah, So one, none of your bullshit

630
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: is just my mama. My mama worked in the in

631
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, right Yeah, that bro, that's the only job

632
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I had to She had hired me to work there. Ship, right,

633
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: and you know, we were just basically was easy. I

634
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: had to go go clock in and go back home

635
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: and go to sleep. So we had to show lock.

636
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: All my homies stayed on the same block. My mom

637
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: was getting all of all of us in. And ship though,

638
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: but ship, all that ship, you know, just it was

639
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: too many people, you know, and like, like I said,

640
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: when that ship happened, I wasn't even at home and ship.

641
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't even find out the ship happened to the

642
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: next morning to the the police at the door, I'm like,

643
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: he'll happen. Somebody shot through the floor. I'm like ship

644
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: the rest of piece of sunny old spot, a lot

645
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: of legendary you know. Club. It was a new the

646
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: new spot though. Right now I'm getting redone right now,

647
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: actually on back, what's coming in and redoing, redoing the

648
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: studio for me right now, I'm not the studio but

649
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: the club spot back. What made you choose your spot? What?

650
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: What is it called a collective? What do you call

651
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: your spot? Camp, Kirk Studio, Kirk Studios, drunk Ship. What

652
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: made you choose that spot? When did you know like

653
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the spot, To be honest, that

654
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: spot was. It was given to me, um, you know ironically.

655
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: So before I opened the studio, I had a name

656
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: for myself. But I wasn't really making that much money.

657
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: So I never really felt like I could actually go

658
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: to a commercial place and get my own space. I

659
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: wasn't really ready for that. Yeah, it didn't makes sense

660
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't have the studio business like that.

661
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I was making a little bit of money. I think

662
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: I was still probably been traveling with with wat and

663
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: people at times, so I wasn't really doing it like that.

664
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: But I met a guy who had the space. He

665
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: had basically like he has basically the relist that I

666
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: got in that building. He had it before I had it,

667
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: and he was trying to open up a recording studio

668
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: on one side, and he had an extra room and

669
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, I'll give you this extra room

670
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: for free if you're gonna do your photo shoots out

671
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: of here, bring artists and they're gonna see my fied

672
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna be lived. So I was like, shift,

673
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: if it don't cost me nothing, there's no risk. Yeah, Like,

674
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I just do it. So I used to have a

675
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: small room over there. Um, it was super small compared

676
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: to what we got now. And yeah, he had the big,

677
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: big side, and you know, me and my boy Keenan

678
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: was actually here. We actually opened up the studio together.

679
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: And he never he never opened up his studio side,

680
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: like I think he just underestimated what it costs or

681
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So for the first five

682
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: six months, I was kind of just trapping out of it.

683
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: It's like a private space. Um. And then I came

684
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: in there one day and we were getting evicted because

685
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: he never paid rent ever. So I was just like,

686
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: what's going on in here? Lu. I'm like, yeah, facts,

687
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: because the building landlad was like, you know, we looked

688
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: your name up and they can you know, you can

689
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: find articles about me. At that time, I just wasn't

690
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: really making no bread like that. And then they were

691
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: just like yeah, it was like, you know, we think

692
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: you do good business. We see you come here all

693
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the time. And they felt like I got tricked, so

694
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: it was like we feel bad for you, so we'll

695
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: just turn the whole lease over to you right now.

696
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: So they ain't check my credit, they ain't check my income,

697
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: they ain't check nothing. It was just like you can't

698
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: afford it. You keep it um so ship. It was

699
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: like a blessing because then I just took over the

700
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: old space and I just bet on myself like all right,

701
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna do what We're gonna do it the right way,

702
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: and we're gonna actually get people in here. We're gonna

703
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: sell the studio time. And here we are three and

704
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: a half. You know, years later, we do six hundred

705
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: appointments of money in there with the most bookspace in

706
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: Atlanta in the world if you really ask me. But yeah,

707
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: but literally there's six hundred shoots going in there every

708
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: month and everybody's in there, every artist you could think

709
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: of as well, big or small. So it's a blessing

710
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: to now be like a staple, you know what I mean.

711
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: And I have that to lock it down. But I

712
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: got it on something definitely God work, you know what

713
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean. It salute to Cam. I ain't gonna lie.

714
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I remember seeing he brought me over the long time ago. Yeah,

715
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: first got it. Yeah, when the buddy still had studio

716
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: over there. Just see where it's it now. It's mind

717
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: blowing like crazy. I'm like, the boy got the whole

718
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: building down me on the slip, you know. No, it's

719
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: a blessing, and I'll never see anybody else, any other

720
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: humans in there. That's else to feel. I like him.

721
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: He might be he don't really be there, but he

722
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: don't be there. I gotta be that way because at

723
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: first I was in there just running this ship myself.

724
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: And then I'm just like, all right, this ain't this

725
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: ain't the look, because then people are just gonna underestimates you,

726
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: like you can't be your on work. So then I

727
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: started investing. I got twenty one employees right now across

728
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: all my businesses. So it's like, now I know how

729
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: to delegate, and it just I'd rather just pay you

730
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: than me even try to work the same job. I'd

731
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: rather give you the job and I can sit back

732
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: and do this. You may never work there, you know

733
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like the office still running, They still

734
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: here doing whatever they gotta do. So when I learned that,

735
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: I just learned the power of delegation and being a boss.

736
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: So whatever it takes, with the true meaning behind it,

737
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: and you know, find a ways to duplicate yourself because

738
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't run that studio with all these appointments still

739
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: be a photographer traveling and have my label. It wouldn't

740
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: make sense. How are you dealing with the days? Like

741
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: we could sit here now and everybody grunted to get

742
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: to a certain point, But how you deal with the days?

743
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: The broke days? Because a lot of people, well we're

744
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: trying to give them games ship like that. They'll be like, well,

745
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: it's easy for y'all because y'all ain't broken, you know

746
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, n we was broke before, you

747
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But how y'all deal with the

748
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: broke times? And how did you deal with the broke times?

749
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: Get the way you're at? Man? So for me, I

750
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: never saw the blueprint that led me to have money

751
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: when it came to photography because I didn't know no

752
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: photographers with bread or with money doing it. So money

753
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a motivation. It was just about making a lot

754
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: of lifestyle for myself or just being able to live.

755
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: So I was never I never had money pressure on

756
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: myself back then because I was just like Ship, if

757
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: I can afford an apartment, I could stay in Atlanta,

758
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do that. I'm good.

759
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: So it really wasn't until I started making money that

760
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: money starts to become oh, make money, Let's make some

761
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: more money like that. Um So at the beginning for me,

762
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm lowle maintenance. I'm low maintenance to this day. Like

763
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't move around too crazy, so as long as

764
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: I can do what I gotta do. So back then

765
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: it was dollar menu food. I was blessed to travel

766
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: with artists and sometimes the artist to get me food.

767
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: I didn't really have no pressure. I was more excited

768
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: about the work we were doing. Like my happiest days

769
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: were still like like Sunnay said in that spot, you know,

770
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the work we were doing, seeing ourselves on TV for

771
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: the first time, like things that nature just was happy

772
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: days still to this day. So for me, it ain't

773
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: never been about money. So maybe it's a little different

774
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: from me because I didn't really get into an industry

775
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: where it's like like that. Though, why why something? You know?

776
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I hate why some of the best days the broke days.

777
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: Girls don't like that. You're trying to get out of pressure.

778
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Pressure exactly, pressure when the pressure on its own. But

779
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real though, real nigger ship though. They

780
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: just need to get jobs. We sweep preached that's the

781
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: big fact of Bible. Yeah, the job bro, like what,

782
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't want it, bron, nigg want to be sunny

783
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: digit on Camp Kirk. They don't want to get a job.

784
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to do it over now, that's true.

785
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: We're talking about snapping the reality though, man. Ship. That

786
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't happening overnight. Man, you know it might happen because

787
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: you know it might or might not happen. No. But

788
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: for the most part though, I had to convert with

789
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: mikecause I'm like, Bro, I was thinking about signing like

790
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: all these people, artist, producers and everything though, but everybody

791
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: start looking at how I live my life. You think

792
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: they like supposed to be lived like that too. And

793
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Mike, tell the niggas to have money,

794
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: and she likes get a job like I like ship.

795
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: That's like, okay, that makes sense though, you know what

796
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, but at the time when we was broke, though,

797
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: we don't win to here, we we don't. Ain't nobody

798
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: really want to go through what they had to go through.

799
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You gotta go through this ship, man.

800
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Everybody be looking at this ship like it's easy, easy,

801
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: easy way to get here. Bro, Just this ship Bro,

802
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: you gotta put your work in, Bro. And we still

803
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: ain't done. We're still at the beginning. I feel, you know,

804
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: most definitely. But I think it's just social media just

805
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: obviously just stories everything and the result mindset. It's like,

806
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, if you really just look at the math

807
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: and stuff you can google, like google how many people

808
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: in America make a hundred thousands a year, it's less

809
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: than ten percent, Like you know, it's like the numbers

810
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: are low. So it's like, why do you just assume

811
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: you're just supposed to all vactly be rich or so

812
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like when people understand those things, they realize they

813
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: put less pressure on themselves. But I think it's just

814
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: it's just false realities of like people thinking you're supposed

815
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: to be a millionaire. That's what success the media, Yeah,

816
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: that's not success excess in a million dollars, like because

817
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then the percentage even lower. It's

818
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: probably how many percent of people are maying there is

819
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: It's probably success is happiness and you being able to

820
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: do what you wanted to do on this earth to

821
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: the fullest ability of what you are. So if I

822
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: made eighty thou dollars, you couldn't tell me I wasn't successful,

823
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: Like if that's what I wanted to do, I wake

824
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: up every day happy. That's what I'm supposed to do.

825
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: That's success to me, got their own everybody at their

826
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: own things. I think so many people put money in

827
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: the same boat at success, and I think that if

828
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: more younger people just would separate those two. Money could

829
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: be part of your success, but it shouldn't be success.

830
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be your definition of success. It's put less pressure

831
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: on yourself, like people be losing their mind trying to

832
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: make money, like it's crazy. It's hard to preach that

833
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: with social media though, I ain't gonna lie like these

834
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: little niggas is in hindsight looking for me. We're looking out.

835
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: We can see reality though, but like man, when you

836
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: lit nigga, see niggas with loads of money and ship

837
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: though we're talking about that percentage and ship though about

838
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: how many people having that many? That's that's the people

839
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: that's on paper though they see every paper nigga. Two

840
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: doors for me, like having blocks like like on the

841
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: same block, like you know what I'm saying, like like

842
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: that that that was really going on. That's what we

843
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: see the niggas who should on black and white. I

844
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: don't think they not don't lie doing that ship. Everybody

845
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: that we see is that's how they live right now.

846
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: So it's like it's it's like like how you said

847
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: though really it's that social media when when they can

848
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: see it, like like I said that, I don't even

849
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: really I don't. I don't really deal with artists like

850
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: as far like new artists anymore unless they know what

851
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: the funk going on this ship though, you know what

852
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because like they're gonna look at it another

853
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: another rapper situation and think his ship supposed to be

854
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: like that, what you mean, like deal with me about

855
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: like sound him or send them beat or signed them,

856
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: sign him when you signed, when you essentially signed anybody

857
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: to you, they're down. They'll be like it's like you adopting.

858
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's like like like

859
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: your daddy not type like like like you know what

860
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, so like that's how that looked to

861
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: you to do everything everything my fault and when everything

862
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: is your responsibility. Everything whatever happened good, they did whatever exactly,

863
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: they did it on their own. When when it's all good, Yeah,

864
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: no help, So what's your fuck up? Don't sunny then

865
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: if it suddenly had me funked up? Like come on man,

866
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: like you know but but but it's just it's just

867
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: how that ship, how they look. I can't at signed

868
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: to me, so I can't you know, I can't talk

869
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: about them. Man. He just he got ahead of it,

870
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 1: so you know what I'm saying, Like everybody, basically, bro, really,

871
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all one situation. I'm gonna tell you

872
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: all one. I had a whole I'm gonna tell you

873
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: all one situation. Though. So when I had first got

874
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: my studio clude Digital and Ship, though, I was like,

875
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: I really got it too. I got my studio so

876
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: I can got damn go to the labels Like I

877
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: got a studio, I got orders. Cut me to check. Bro,

878
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: we can record here, you know what I'm saying, We

879
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: can you know what I'm saying. So it was an

880
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: easy place because I already got my situation with Atlantic

881
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: and Ship. So I'm like, all I gotta do is

882
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: get y'all high here and don't cost me to record y'all.

883
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: You know what saying? I got everything right here. You

884
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying we can, we can situation ship,

885
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: so bom, I like, all right, So I got four artists.

886
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: Two of them was my friends, two of them was

887
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: two other yeah, two other randoms that I was like, okay, y'all,

888
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: y'all kind of fire with this ship or whatever. Though,

889
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: So my two friends and ship though a matter of fact,

890
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: you had this nigga boat had a show. We all

891
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: went down on Panama. We went to Panama, right, and

892
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: so when when when when he had a show up?

893
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: I had a show? Will brain probably like to two

894
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: of the artists are two and another two of another

895
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: show or something like that just kind of split up it.

896
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: So don't be four artists going on one show and ship.

897
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: So we'll bring them out and ship. They't let them

898
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: do their thing though, you know, like niggas ain't that's

899
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: exposure for your like like like nig you ain't had

900
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: no show tonight, like nobody had nothing going on. Like

901
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: we're making this ship go on right now, so come

902
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: on with it. You'm saying, you come on do your

903
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: ship though. So I don't know, I wanted one of

904
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: my artists flex to the other artists, like he got

905
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: paid for the show. What I It wasn't the friend

906
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: that flexs to the random nigga. R No, it was

907
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: the friend that flexs to the random nigga. And that

908
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: that's what made it even seem more legit, because you know,

909
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: they like they already know like your favorite niggas, So

910
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the money for exactly. But I ain't

911
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: nobody get paid for no show. The only person that

912
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: got paid for the show was him. Yeah, we was

913
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: all coming out on so like, hey man, we got

914
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: this going on, we're gonna bring it. He the only

915
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: one that got paid for the show. Ain't nobody get

916
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: buzzed down for nothing? We all driving down on our

917
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: own diamond ship though, So my friend gonna tell the

918
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: other artists that he got paid for the show for

919
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: what reason, I don't know, but it started. It started

920
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: some internal ship though, and the artists got mad at me,

921
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: made it made it this song about me and ship, bro.

922
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: But did the random nigger ever like approach you and

923
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: talking out like that? Man? All right? So look that

924
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. I was like, I didn't even

925
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: know you had this undercover pressure with me and ship though,

926
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: like until they started telling me. And so later on

927
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: down the road. I'm such a cool nig I'm like,

928
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: I ain't really tripping because you don't really understand in

929
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: the dough. But I ain't gonna really full with you

930
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: like on that level again though. But he came to

931
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: a sensence and came and chopped it up with me

932
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: as a as a grown man last after this record

933
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: after I don't know. I don't know. I don't know

934
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: if he don't know, if he put it out of

935
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: not though, But it was just the fact that it

936
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: was made though. I'm like, like, you know what I'm saying,

937
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: Like that, that'd be the whole thing. Bro, Na, I

938
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing meet doing anywhere, not really. You gotta

939
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: know what's going on at this point too. I'm putting

940
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: my foot down. Hey, I'm not your daddy. You know

941
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Get you a job if you need

942
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: some money, bro, And the ship work, bro, Like be

943
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: a real nick about this ship, Like when when you

944
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: sign the artist what you ain't gonna game ship it'll

945
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: be bro. I look, bro, when when you coming, when

946
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: you come with Sunny Bro, you you can go anywhere,

947
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: we can go anywhere in the world. Bro. I'm going

948
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: in any studio, but this ship different. That he need

949
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to need some money, that's that's fine. You just gotta

950
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: get your fine now. Look it's already and ready to go.

951
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: But look, look, getting money right now ain't hard. Bro.

952
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: It ain't hard, bro, Like, don't you don't matter been

953
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: black and white. If it's black and white, all documented

954
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: on document, Get your motherfucker money. Bro, we all had

955
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: to get this shot out the mud. Bro, I'm not

956
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: saying that he comes saying to you, look that nigga

957
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: might want to wear chrome hard jeans. Yesterday, yesterday, I

958
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: still got him on my chrome hart hot. I got

959
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: my ship, I got two three follow him hot. Yeah, Sonny,

960
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: you come to me and say you want to say

961
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: not not sused to not boom boom. If there's that

962
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: type of situation where it ain't too much, I gotta

963
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: build up. Yeah, I'm coming there. I know how to

964
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: handle the business. Though. Now Bro, okay, you right here,

965
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you some money. I'm gonna give you

966
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: some money. Bro. Saying like you should meet a nigger

967
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: like trying to take it from zero a little yea

968
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: the spot. Let me give you a good example though,

969
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: so you know you know seeing your tril. Yeah, I've

970
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: been see your trail. He does. He does a lot

971
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: of stuff we've been doing. Yeah, he had wrapped him.

972
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: I've been this n just alone, cool as hell like

973
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: but so, but he kind of buzzing right now though.

974
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: But I've been doing this. Nigga from Metro induced me

975
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: to him probably like ten years ago type ship though,

976
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At the crib, and Nick

977
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: came that Nigga had so much money to that day. Bro,

978
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: he was just buying beasts from everybody and ship though. Bro,

979
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: he was bro and he bought a verse with OJ

980
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: and ship bro. So she was crazy that day. But

981
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: but um so with him when he started recently bubbling

982
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: and ship though, I had reached out to him. I

983
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: reached out to him ten years ago, like I was

984
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: gonna sunk with him just off the fact that he

985
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: had bought so many beats from me though, and I

986
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: just sunk with his music and ship though. So he

987
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: had ship going on, we was we was still fueling

988
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: flame behind what the funk he had going on, you

989
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so at that time I

990
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: wanted to funk with him and ship though, would ended

991
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: up happening the nigga had got shot. The funk up

992
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: and ship though, and kind of like he got shot

993
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and kind of like just fell off the scene a

994
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: little bit though, you know what saying. The music when

995
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: a priority at that point at that point, yeah, so

996
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: so now he kind of he come back on the

997
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: scene and like when I had started to see it though,

998
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: I reached out to him. I'm like, hey, bro, like

999
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: what so, let's let's work out of situation and ship

1000
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: when they start like kind of bubbling and ship though,

1001
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, they got everybody on their line, you know

1002
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everybody on the line. So it's like

1003
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: sometimes I can't I can't even compete as far as

1004
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: like financially with whatever label or anybody gonna give you though,

1005
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: because honestly, I'm not about to give a nigga fifty

1006
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: thousand or whatever thousand and because on some ship though, Bro,

1007
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do any work and if it gets

1008
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: to that level and ship though, you know how much

1009
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: I can charge you for a beat, you know what

1010
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So we can we could paying this ship

1011
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: out though, Like was it's gonna be like alright, ship,

1012
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: how much. You won't shock you this and that and

1013
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: beat if you want to reduce that. But I mean, dope,

1014
00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: they do. But they don't even know I love them.

1015
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: I'm so bank I got. I gotta ask you now

1016
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: because you got you got your label. So when you

1017
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: signed these niggers and ship, though you you gave them

1018
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: a bag and ship, who um trouble. I didn't get

1019
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: them nigger ship. We came up together, we were brothers.

1020
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: It was a feminine so we all. You know what

1021
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, all right, so what would you do

1022
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: were you never do no paperwork and nothing? That ship?

1023
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: You see a feminine? I see that different now you

1024
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like I ain't up to

1025
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: my life as a bidding, I'm signing it digital. What

1026
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: would you look at? How would you doing right now?

1027
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to be the dad I got, I got,

1028
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: I got, I got three three young niggers that don't

1029
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: funk with. But it's already what it is. They already

1030
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: have their own paper, they already they're already doing their

1031
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: I can't I'm doing. I'm doing a big factors. I'm

1032
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: looking at you know what I'm saying. I'm looking for

1033
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: that little a little problems, y'all. We see I see,

1034
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: I see all of them doing their things, and look,

1035
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: it's not that many of them though that and I'm

1036
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: looking for that though I won't think it's kind of

1037
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: doing their thing though, but understand they do need a

1038
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: little more too though, Like like that they're gonna need,

1039
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna need, They're gonna need like a Mike Will

1040
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: to come in and sign. Why not signing coming? You know,

1041
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: it's they don't want to make it look like when

1042
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: he signed, like sign signed, what is some guaranteed? What

1043
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: am I doing? But everybody got beats? Everybody, That's what

1044
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, thank you, But I'm trying to explain to

1045
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: him how Nigga's thinking. But look that's cool and niked

1046
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: thing that all I got it beats, But no, I'm

1047
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: really got his beat. But Nigga's like, bro, I can wait. No,

1048
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 1: I didn't gonna feeling like bro wait my time but nothing.

1049
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: But you know, you know, a rapper worst worst fair

1050
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: though is like signing and then being broke and they

1051
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: don't want to sign it broke. If you sign, I'm like,

1052
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: that's the biggest ship. Like once I signed, I should

1053
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: be straight. That ain't really, that ain't reality. But that's

1054
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: how they think. I'm gonna tell us, real ship, if

1055
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: you signed a nigger like this today and he blow

1056
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 1: up and the end of time for y'all to bust

1057
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: his money up, you're gonna want your money for your

1058
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: beach you're publishing, then he gonna be a nigga that's

1059
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna be on Big Fat saying you some bullshit because

1060
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: you ain't get the nigga ship from the real. Right, Well,

1061
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: look all right, so look not no, I didn't give

1062
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: me ship. He give me but not hey, but look

1063
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: but look bro, look this is the whole thing though,

1064
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: So now you're right, you're right, but this alright, so

1065
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: my whole thing too, for real, for real, Like I

1066
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: wasn't all some guy, damn, it's it's it's situations that

1067
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: I wasn't even having with my friends. I'm like, bro,

1068
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: it's certain niggas that I don't want to really even

1069
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: sign because I see them being bigger than what I

1070
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: can offer them right now, at this, at this moment,

1071
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna get business savvy and in

1072
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: a minute and understand that whatever I offered them. It

1073
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: probably was gonna be some bullshit, but it was fitting

1074
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: for the time though, what you was in. So I

1075
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: understand where we're out of that shome now, but but

1076
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: it was a situation that we had what's fitting for

1077
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: that time and stuff. I ain't no like ship. I

1078
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: believed in you like ship. Like ship. We believed in

1079
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: each other, like like you know, you gotta you gotta

1080
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: be you gotta be out. But you gotta think about

1081
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: that's coming from nothing together. But you got something. You

1082
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: look at that, but that that what you got someone already.

1083
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: But I don't look at all this ship. But there

1084
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: you gotta put in the game. That's why you gotta

1085
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: don't many, bro, they look that cool. We're gonna build

1086
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: haters all around us when when you're doing saying what

1087
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in being there with him. Bro, Look, man,

1088
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: you you don't think the big companies and business with

1089
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: niggas that hate them likely Look it's different though, But

1090
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: now the biggest difference though with me and them is

1091
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I actually be on the ground with these niggas. Though

1092
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: still though, do niggas be in the office and ship though,

1093
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: so honestly, they don't even they matter the whole label,

1094
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: and they don't even know who they're mad at. When

1095
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: these niggas get mad, they know they can get mad

1096
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: directly because I'm on the ground with him, but I

1097
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: might need just you can't even take this chance. You

1098
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: can't even take the chance to keep doing the beat.

1099
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: They don't get management. Management deal. I thought about that tool,

1100
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Come with it, you know, and then we're gonna make

1101
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: it like my life. You really is a nigga daddy

1102
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: for my life in your end in a certain sense though,

1103
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: And you right though, I was like my whole thing

1104
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: right now, like you know, I'm dealing with producers like

1105
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: I really felt with them because I can. I can

1106
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: get through them. I can talk, and I can make

1107
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: this ship make sense to them, making I can show

1108
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: them this whole ship, how this ship go. I can

1109
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: show them I can break this ship down as an

1110
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: artist and ship though I know a little bit, but

1111
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: as far as like how they be feeling this ship though,

1112
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm kind of oblivious to that ship though, you know

1113
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I ain't know all this. You

1114
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: gotta look at it like these niggas nowadays, at least

1115
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: these niggers nowadays, like at least want to get like

1116
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: a hell cat and a condo out of the situation.

1117
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I produce, produce somebody you can

1118
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: start their kids, health cat, come on one you want, man,

1119
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 1: That's all it takes for you, because they just want

1120
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: to be inspired, not off your ship off knowing them

1121
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: for to go outside and jumping it. I'm gonna make

1122
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: a banger. That's a fact though, because that's too many

1123
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: y'all need to turn they turn their niggas up. No,

1124
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: that's a fact that crapship starting to go out the

1125
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: dough facts though, like get okay, you did turn you up,

1126
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: put you out within its meeting alright, So so but bag,

1127
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: don't you gotta look I look still from my end though,

1128
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. Bro. You know bro, we all right,

1129
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: so we I see you, I see you, I see

1130
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: your most spot. I see you with Mike will spot

1131
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: more than anything, Bro. When I walk in his spot,

1132
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm inspired. Bro. I'm like, oh man, he got these

1133
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: two artists really whole platoon, but swedel and got damn Jimmy.

1134
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you ain't gonna telling me. I can't hand

1135
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: no motherfucker artists, Bro, are are I shouldn't bro, because

1136
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm like what they're doing over there, I'm like, I

1137
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: just need to find I need to find that. You

1138
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? What if I got though? I

1139
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: know I know going on that blessing hold him now

1140
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: what I need I need to nig said, hey man,

1141
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: my home, my host. Look are you looking for a blessing?

1142
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: Man that type of nigh don't go ahead, but I

1143
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: ain't bless that's the blue bliss. I'm saying, like you

1144
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: see you go, you see y'all nigga out of hood. Okay,

1145
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: shot ready you're gonna go get you know you got

1146
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: your niggas got who turn like? That's all they need

1147
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: is a son they digital to stamp like that. We

1148
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: finally got them be brothers and turn them up. Because

1149
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: if you believe in the nigga that much, why do

1150
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: you want to invest? Should I do in the time?

1151
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: Time and none of the days time was enough? When

1152
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: you gonna be turned up? They do? But I mean,

1153
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: ship you want to do some nigga you don't want

1154
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: to do nigga? Everybody was that's the one they got introduced. Bro.

1155
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: It's different, it's changed. I ain't like then change Now

1156
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: the niggas is getting money. I ain't gonna lie, ain't

1157
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: so and that bring back to see your trust ship

1158
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: though he had he having his own motion and ship though,

1159
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: so when I came and I asked, like April, let's

1160
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: figure out something. But but I ain't gonna lie. I know,

1161
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: I know with our brain straight to me and without cause.

1162
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: I got, I gotta situation with it. I got situation

1163
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: where Atlantic still though to where I like I got,

1164
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: I got. I'm signed over there as the artist to

1165
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: Atlantic got them if you But they will though, but

1166
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: it's a process though, they still gotta wait, just like

1167
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: being with you first. Then we're gonna do all that

1168
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: if I believe, honestly, if I believe in the nigga

1169
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna kick it to a nigga,

1170
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: A bro I got my situation in Atlantic broke, but

1171
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. A lot of times niggers be

1172
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: getting turned off when you talk about major labels though,

1173
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: But I ain't got nothing bad to say about my label.

1174
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: Them niggas do whatever I asking to do. They cut

1175
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: me and check it by asked you know what I'm saying,

1176
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: that's that's how my studio got built. And ship, you

1177
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's how I bought my Mama crib.

1178
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing bad to say about the Atlantic

1179
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: and ship though, you know what I'm saying. My my

1180
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: situation Atlantic they he loves you man. Whatever situation they

1181
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: gave it was fitting for the situation and still working

1182
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: right now though, you know what I'm saying. So but

1183
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: but like when like they get they get bad looks,

1184
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna make your steal your nicklas or something. Get

1185
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: your R and B singles, No, look, look this the

1186
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: whole thing. Though honestly, bank Bank, I'd be out the way.

1187
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: Though I'd be out the way. I'll never go looking

1188
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: for nothing that first. So what do you get somebody?

1189
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: All that ship, but you don't do nothing for him?

1190
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Like you give them all the ship to change a

1191
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: little bit of money to health cat all that ship,

1192
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: but you don't do nothing for their career like you

1193
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: don't do nothing, Like you don't help them actually do something.

1194
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: Don't that count for something? You mean you'll help him

1195
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: do it? You don't help them do nothing, like you

1196
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: don't introduce them, and some people do they give him

1197
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: the ship. But some people get gonna make that type

1198
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: of investment. Some people give some people give them ship.

1199
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: They can't do ship for the artists. They don't have

1200
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: the power to do. They don't have a power that's

1201
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: got the money and the ship. So you have a

1202
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: bunch of motherfucker's walk around looking like that you have

1203
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: money to turn the nigger up. You got that money.

1204
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't mean you know if you got money. I

1205
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: don't mean you know, Jay Banks, don't nobody don't even

1206
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: let me. Damn y'all didn't let me face money down me.

1207
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. I'm trying to talk what I said.

1208
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: If you if you got money, if you got that

1209
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: type of money to turning it up to that level,

1210
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: then you have enough money to be able to pay

1211
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: people to be put in place that no people and

1212
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: then know what to do. It. Still don't feel different

1213
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: broke trying to do that. It's broke as what I'm saying.

1214
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is it's sunny the felt, and

1215
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: I like both of your sides of it. But Sonny

1216
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: can go get some ship done for you. Bro It

1217
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: ain't just feel to be a chain and you're sending

1218
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: hold all that though, so you say you got out,

1219
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I got to cover all of that. Man, I'm coming

1220
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: look you because you that kind of if you're a

1221
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: different type of CEO, that weed is a hundred of it.

1222
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Now they can't buy that with time. It's the whole thing. Though.

1223
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, though, I think we're going over everybody here.

1224
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm opportunity in this situation though, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, Nigga,

1225
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: I ain't saying you're going to sign on for starting.

1226
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying you go sid and nigga who already got

1227
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: it a little b one chance. But even still this this,

1228
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: this is the the the messed up part for me though.

1229
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: When niggas is bubbling, they know they're bubbling and ship though,

1230
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: so they get officers and ship though. So like this,

1231
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: like when I come, I'm not gonna just I'm I'm

1232
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: afl of the situation. So I'm gonna be like I'm

1233
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: gonna call the big dogs in, so we're gonna get

1234
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: atlantic in the situation and stuff. You know what I'm saying.

1235
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: But like niggas don't wanna they don't wanna go there

1236
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: route I can. I can get you to the water,

1237
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: I can be I'm put you I'm gonna let you

1238
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: meet create, calm in the head, head hot. He can

1239
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: come whatever, check he won't. You know what I'm saying.

1240
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: I can put you there, I can put you in

1241
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: the front of any any lay. I can take you

1242
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: to anywhere. You know what I'm saying. But it's like,

1243
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: you know, people gotta look at it like like that though,

1244
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: But when they know he hot, don't you know he

1245
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: probably can get more and not look at the whole

1246
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: situation and ship though, Like what I can actually do

1247
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: for your situation though, you know what I'm saying, Like

1248
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: like you know, you don't want to get what he's saying,

1249
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: but you don't get what I'm saying to your brand,

1250
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: to Digital son and Digital Club Digital that you feel

1251
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: attaching it to your brand, You gotta attach them to it, bro,

1252
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: you gotta embrace like that what the niggas artists don't

1253
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: be blowing up because they treat these nigga like like

1254
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: you just like separate entities. How do you need to

1255
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: blow how do you need to blowing the niggas up?

1256
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: Because they showing its united. They like they're grabbing these

1257
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: niggas like, you know what I'm saying, that's the only

1258
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: way it's gonna work. But I ain't gonna lie bank.

1259
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: I've been doing that. I've been having the niggas everybody

1260
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: next to me. Bro, That's why nigga still sunk with

1261
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: me right now, get that pot up. I'm saying like,

1262
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: if you signed a rapper, like you don't sign the rapper.

1263
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: You can't just have him next to you, and you

1264
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: ain't got him next to you next year. That's why

1265
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: I won't even deal with it. Just depends. Like for me,

1266
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm coming on at this point. It's like

1267
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: am I gonna am I gonna be that guy? I'm

1268
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna be like a crib cowman handling business with you.

1269
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I see something, man, you

1270
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying, Like it's music, but

1271
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: it's still though you're a nigga, bro, change ship different

1272
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: if you have now if I was signing to Camp,

1273
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: it'll be different. I feel like, all right, we're gonna

1274
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: get us some money together. No matter what. Cam gotna,

1275
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Cam don't care. You carry yourself like a guy. Them

1276
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: artists he man, he's being modest of it because I've

1277
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: been around him for too long. Anything Sunny got everybody

1278
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: around him know, they got access to it. I know that,

1279
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: so it's like he just got to fix it. You're

1280
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: just not saying that. So you know, if we're going

1281
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: out right now, if I'm your artists and you got

1282
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: five change, you know you're giving him one of the

1283
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: two change put on. That's just natural. You like like

1284
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: that stuff that different. I mean, I would say, you

1285
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: gotta just say that. You know you're gonna do that,

1286
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: you do that, But I'm not. I'm not saying that

1287
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: because I feel like that. That's just things that just

1288
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of naturally come to me. Though. You know what

1289
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if I do got an artist, of course,

1290
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: if we go out, I'm taking this off. I'm not

1291
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna outshine this. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

1292
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: that's what I'm He's saying. You can't look like that,

1293
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah you ain't walking so so so a

1294
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: little bull so so a little right even the way

1295
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: the way I'd be thinking about this ship though, Like

1296
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: so when I have I had my artist cute at

1297
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: the time though. Remember que Also, I always felt like

1298
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: he was a better rapper than me though, you know

1299
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I was like, I'm gonna have him.

1300
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a project together though, just so he

1301
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 1: can stand hold on, wait a minute, you know. Yeah,

1302
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: I felt like he was a better lyricist, like as

1303
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: far as like you know, like look, you know what

1304
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, everything like he has, So it was like

1305
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I want I put him next to me so he

1306
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: can outshine you though, you know what I'm saying. So

1307
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: it was always It's always like I'm doing what's in

1308
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: favor for everybody else though, because I do know my position.

1309
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm producing, or I just like this ship though I like.

1310
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: I like things I like though, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1311
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna get straight um Stunn on the

1312
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: nigger or cut off access to a nigga. I'm you

1313
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: saw twenty one man, you got done that signed to me? Bro?

1314
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: You like, like Cam'm said, you do, got access to everything.

1315
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: I got to take the Bentley. I don't care to

1316
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: take that where you are. That's like, take take any anything.

1317
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: All this ship material bro, let's make up, let makes exactly, like, yeah,

1318
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: I come in. I can't just be in the studio

1319
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: over shaking, trying to face what's what's what's your what's

1320
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: your think? Create better music though hungry shaking that type

1321
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: of ship or turned up. I'm just serious. You need

1322
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: comfortability for both niggas. Ain't bro, who's who's hosting when

1323
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: they home? You gotta think about what nigga you got

1324
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: a different world, That's a fact. Paintish painting struggle music

1325
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: got popular to paint over with. Don't get what all

1326
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: these kings who are saying that paying ship they're still

1327
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: holding up them right, ain't know what you don't It

1328
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: don't matter what what artists you signed. When we when

1329
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: I signed artists to my label, we give twenty thousand

1330
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: dollars up front. But you gotta do that. Photographers, you

1331
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: have that comfortable feel like I just moved up. Yeah,

1332
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: like they say, like that day I go that way happened.

1333
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: So so look give me some up now. Look even

1334
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: like all right, so I'm really a advocate about that

1335
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: ship though I've been on something. I've been preaching about

1336
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: niggas getting their checks and ship though, like they get

1337
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: your money and ship though, so I know, even like

1338
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: dealing with the artists, why I can't sign them directly though,

1339
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to the big facilitate you to

1340
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: go get a bigger check though, you know what I'm saying,

1341
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: So that that's what that's really why I stand that

1342
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: with with like technically signed an artist though, but even

1343
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: like with producers and stuff, like I said, I've been

1344
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 1: such an advocate on like man, I've been in fund

1345
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: up deals and ship though. I'm like, man, shouldn't nobody

1346
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: sign anything anything without any type of monetary exchange to

1347
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: it too? Though you know what I'm saying. So you

1348
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: know if you signed anything and they need to get something,

1349
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: So like with my producers right now, I know producers,

1350
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: they'll be ready to sign for nothing. I put a

1351
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: piece of paper in front of you. There they're signed

1352
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: this ship. Don't matter what it's on it long just

1353
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: say Sunny did toping. They name it the Bodoee that

1354
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: that go like that though producers ain't even like I can't,

1355
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: I can't let you normalize that. He's saying, like, just

1356
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: if you go get a producer, like how you are

1357
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: seventeen years old of your basement, fresh out your mouth, Bro,

1358
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: he go tenth, don't. I'm gonna get you some placement

1359
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: we're producing. You're gonna start getting money immediately if you're

1360
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: beating into him. It's different with the rap. Nah, broe Nah,

1361
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: you ain't getting that money immediately. Bro. I'm telling you

1362
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: from from my standpoint. Man need nigga is starving. Bro,

1363
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: you get a hit, you ain't seeing no money from

1364
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: that motherfucker them that year after that, publishing publishing base.

1365
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: Ain't no time if I've been broke seventeen years already,

1366
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: ain't no time. But but but but but what you

1367
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: gotta understand though, I feel you, though, But it's like, Okay,

1368
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: imagine you having a hit. You know you got that

1369
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: hit once, you know you got that hit, and then

1370
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: mother going up. You got big jugs and big jugs

1371
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: and folks and come people. No, no, no, no, no,

1372
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 1: no no no. Let me tell you that's that's a

1373
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: deadly game. Now right there. We're talking about hits. Now,

1374
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking from the perspective of like first hit. Though.

1375
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, first hit, they're gonna hit

1376
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: you with some bullshit, bro, you know what's saying because

1377
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: they don't even know if're gonna get another hit after

1378
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: this ship though, So they're gonna they're gonna hit you

1379
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: with it, and I'm coming in like they're gonna. If

1380
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: you're coming in, you're coming off. They offer you do

1381
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: on your first hit, they ain't gonna get you. Ain't

1382
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: gonna get what you're posted agetting to until you got

1383
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: your second hit up on the board, third hit on

1384
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: the board or something like that though, So it'd be

1385
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: some bullshit up until then though. But even still, you

1386
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: gotta understand how the ship feeling now as a producer, though,

1387
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: the niggas ain't getting paid them that year later after

1388
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: this songe hit though, But the rapper that song that're

1389
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: doing shows living life. But put fairness to the cult

1390
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: of the producer ain't got to really be out. I

1391
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: don't need you needn't go number one, so so keep

1392
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: doing it. So yeah, that's right, that right though, But

1393
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: you're right to to a certain degree if you're that

1394
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: type producer that don't you know, you don't want to,

1395
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you want, if you

1396
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: want your money to come every now months after the

1397
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: hit come out, and fine, you do that, but you

1398
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: gotta get your door war and for that money that

1399
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: got down, keep you floating and ship. So it's all

1400
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: been about being a hustler because once I got this hit, Okay,

1401
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: once I got this sunny, all these niggas in need

1402
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: little towels want that sunny, my bag. I'm hustler. And

1403
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, what you're talking about. I did

1404
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: that because like these niggas ain't you know, I don't

1405
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: really at the time, I didn't. I didn't know Future.

1406
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: I didn't really know why. I see, they didn't know

1407
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: each other. No, it was a whole one man that

1408
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: didn't know each other. So it was like there wasn't

1409
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: no means for anybody to help each other, saying chemistry

1410
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: wasn't there. There wasn't no like chemistry until like well

1411
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: with me and Future after the after the direct on

1412
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: recks really are like kind of in the mixing ship though,

1413
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: But nobody really knew each other though, so it wasn't

1414
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: knowing centing for nobody to help each other as far

1415
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: as putting Nick out though, So like I'm sitting like

1416
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: I ain't even got my tag on the ship though,

1417
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, y C, you make sure you're

1418
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: shot me out the radio station when you go up

1419
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But that ain't what going on. Niggas

1420
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: trying to get their shot up the ground too, you

1421
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They're like this nigga. So once

1422
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: I figured that out, and I won't an't mad, I like,

1423
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: I understand. I just gotta figure out how I'm gonna

1424
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,560
Speaker 1: do this ship too, So I'm gonna let know the

1425
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: type ship. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna let y'all know, like,

1426
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: oh me, like we're doing this, that's how we're gonna

1427
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: do it, you know, and like what we're really coming.

1428
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: My ass was coming with another one. Yeah, you know

1429
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That first one was cool and then

1430
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: we really really coming. My was just coming with the

1431
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: next one. Like okay, this nigga he here, you know

1432
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like that ship that that producer

1433
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: ship man like produces that ship alone shot to the

1434
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: rap on tobody when you got the like, shout out

1435
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: my producer because I fun with all, but I know

1436
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: you funked with the producers. Cake Heavy, Yeah that's my brother.

1437
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like you got more patient than

1438
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: a rapper. Once I come out here as a rapper.

1439
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 1: I gotta be a rapper then sing the bayment and

1440
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: got them banging my bang. I got something to do

1441
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: two thousand beats. You don't take me nothing to do.

1442
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta be in front of the camera, still

1443
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: trying to be no rapper ever, do me two thousand

1444
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: beats and gonna play with two thousand? Ye nigga dropp

1445
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 1: a song? You as a rapper, How you look to,

1446
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: how you look to you know what I'm saying, what

1447
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: you're doing, So I don't need something I never even like,

1448
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: like for real, just to even think about it right now.

1449
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: I never had the conversation like with the artists even

1450
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: here from this damn point though, you know what I'm saying,

1451
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 1: because it's usually me bringing more to it though, so

1452
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of being selfish though, but not

1453
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: trying to like I was just kind of being like

1454
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: one side of like, okay, is I'm bringing the value

1455
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: to the situation though I never really like, I ain't

1456
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna say I didn't mind. I didn't want to take

1457
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: anybody at pinion then though. But it's like I got

1458
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: this ship figured out though, you know what I'm saying,

1459
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: So It's like I never really took in consideration and

1460
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: how artists would feel about this ship though, so you

1461
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So so like that's your me

1462
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: just not knowing this ship though, Like so you know,

1463
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 1: like rapper because that's a that ship is a hard job.

1464
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, like in this day and time, like

1465
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: you gotta keep up with it. Like nigger, they ain't posting,

1466
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,959
Speaker 1: ain't got got no money, by no clothes, bro. Anytime

1467
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: you time you po you friend, what you ain't ain't

1468
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna live. And then then ain't story you

1469
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: got on? You don't fell off three days and they

1470
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: feel like you don't fell off a forever, especially if

1471
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: that's how you got on, especially came out like and

1472
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: then I know like it would be a lot of

1473
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: prey ship too with with like the rappers and ship

1474
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: though with the people that be around, I'll also be

1475
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: seeing that too, because you know, people might look at

1476
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: people might look at the situation bigger than what it is,

1477
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 1: and you know, start telling the artists man yo son

1478
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: of yo, Man's like what's going on? Yeah? And then

1479
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: like sunny Year is my man's you know what I'm saying,

1480
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: Like It's all good though, man, get a rope. I'm

1481
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm still open to working with artists though too, Like

1482
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm not against it, like you know, I just like

1483
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: I said, just like you never did a whole like

1484
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: a whole project with somebody like yeah, I did it

1485
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: with a Savage, I did one with um. We did

1486
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: that shop with McConney. Everything was like it was the

1487
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: type of ships, like we was all working together, like

1488
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: we was all honed in and stuff like um. But

1489
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: right now, nowadays, I'm not really like big on doing

1490
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: whole projects no more like I feel more comfortable probably

1491
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: coming in and doing like one or two beats or something,

1492
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: and I want to bring another produce. I'm really good

1493
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: at putting together projects, you know what saying. I could

1494
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: put together some good as ship though, Like I can

1495
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: put it together for you know, you can bring me

1496
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: your ship broken up, I'll tell you what to due.

1497
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: We put that ship back together and put it out

1498
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: and had that ship ready to go. You know what

1499
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I might come in and produce on some

1500
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: certain of ships if I need to, But for the

1501
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: most part, like right now, I ain't even got the

1502
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: time to like sit down and just do one project

1503
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: unless it's like, unless it's like one of the ones though,

1504
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, the artist who gonna get us

1505
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 1: up out of there, and it's gonna do numbers and stuff.

1506
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: But to build up part like getting the new artists

1507
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: and stuff, it's kind of hard to lock in and

1508
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 1: just do one project just sold me. I could produce

1509
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: it and put together for you though, but not actually

1510
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: sit down in the studio and do it every day

1511
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: with you though, you know. And on top of that too,

1512
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: I just feel like when when a lot of them

1513
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: sounds the new tapes would be kind of like you know,

1514
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm a musical person though, so I like it to

1515
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: sound different, you know what I'm saying. It's a lot

1516
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: of ship that we kind of like when when it's

1517
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: one sounds, it's one sound, you know what I'm saying.

1518
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: Sometimes I want to see how somebody sound like over

1519
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: another producer's beat, you know what I'm saying, and just

1520
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, get a new vibe, you know what I'm saying.

1521
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,440
Speaker 1: And I'm, like I said, I'm here for the opportunity

1522
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: to so I always try to bring in new people

1523
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: into the situation, you know. So if we're doing a

1524
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: project or something, I see an opportunity for other producers

1525
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: to get in and you know, potentially like get a

1526
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: placement in their eyes and stuff. You know. So that's

1527
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: how I kind of work the situation versus me just

1528
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: being in there. I feel like like kind of like

1529
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: how Mike will do. And if it is some producer

1530
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: that's fired though the owner, I probably end up signing

1531
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: the type ship though, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1532
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: so look with my producers, so look, look, look I

1533
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: can show you, I can I can show you my

1534
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: my my last, my last ship. Though, like I said,

1535
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: I'm an advocate on getting everybody pay because I was.

1536
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 1: I was in the situation though, So as far as

1537
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: like you know, coming from producers standpoint, So with my

1538
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: producers right now, I'm giving them many advanced for show

1539
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I know, I know, I can't. I'm

1540
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: what I'm giving the producers. I would have to add

1541
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: extra zero on top of that to make it for

1542
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: the artist and ship though, you know what I'm saying.

1543
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: But like the producers and stuff, you know, give them

1544
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: a little ten fifteen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1545
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: just in the house all they make crazy, but he'll team.

1546
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: But we've been to get you on better. You try

1547
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: to make such an album type ship beat, Bro, I'm

1548
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna do. We made this ship right back. You're signed

1549
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: to me too. How much you selling beats for right now?

1550
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: Five dollars you're signed me, Bro. We're gonna study home

1551
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: forty racks. Bro. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna

1552
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: make the money. We're gonna make all the money back though,

1553
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, so like and that that

1554
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: that's so that's just a producer fee too, you know

1555
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then then we talked about the royalties

1556
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: to not and you know, a year later the ship though,

1557
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's when your money start rolling in. You

1558
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You get do, get your sound.

1559
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: Once you get your sound happen once you hot, you hot,

1560
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: you in. Yeah, you know, I don't know how to

1561
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: produce a tag ship going now, But I mean back

1562
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: then that that ship was like a major, major little

1563
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: thing for us to get known, you know what I'm saying,

1564
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: and have people know who he is and get some

1565
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: extra money and stuff, because like every time they hear

1566
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: the song, they hear your name Yeah, another thing I

1567
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: was doing to I would DJ and this ship I

1568
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: was going to doing all The producer studded, Yeah, I

1569
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: felt bad because I like this ship. It was too

1570
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: simple though. I feel like I'm contact somebody your job, really, DJ.

1571
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I ain't a real DJ.

1572
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Too easy, too easy, d

1573
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: J screen, you know what I'm saying. Going on the stage,

1574
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm getting by like Tim Rex. I'll have it though

1575
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: what Sunday and Metro was DJ and I was like

1576
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: I fought with it, but I actually I learned. I

1577
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: learned how to do it. You want to be DJ? Ship?

1578
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: Just mean I need to make bees. I can't be

1579
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: mad at this. I feel like, man, hey man, I

1580
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: feel like I'm taking somebody's job. Man. I'm like, man,

1581
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: somebody couldn't do this ship. What's next for you? Uh?

1582
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: People ask me that it's just maintaining keeping this ship going,

1583
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 1: like like when you see yourself though, like I know

1584
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 1: you got goals and playing. I've seen it a little

1585
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: bit White Boys, and I mean the goal is uh

1586
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: from studio side camp CRAEC Studios, is to bring that

1587
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 1: that same style across the world. So we're trying to

1588
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: open up more locations and um, different cities, different states.

1589
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: So from now when I want that to eventually be

1590
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: like when you think of creative especially within our culture

1591
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: music industry, you gotta shoot your stuff at a Camp

1592
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: Craik studios. So that's on that and on Collective Gallery

1593
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: of my label, we want to be as big as

1594
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: every other label was the biggest Death Jam, biggest QC, biggest,

1595
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: everybody else doing it but for photographers. So that whole

1596
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: game plan is just the level of playing field, like

1597
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: where it's like it could be more photographers sitting here

1598
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: in this share I'm at, and it won't be normal.

1599
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: It won't be abnormal. It's like, oh we're talking to

1600
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: they got that shot, this cover, they got to this,

1601
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: and we got a lot to offer as well from

1602
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 1: a content standpoint. So for the label Collective Gallery, the

1603
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: goal is to blow that up. I mean I want

1604
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: to see ten more labels about in the next year.

1605
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: I want other people doing it so then it's legit

1606
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: because that's another revenue train for photographers to get in

1607
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: and get some support. Um. And then on a personal level, man,

1608
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: I just want to be as big as I could

1609
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: be and be as positive as I can be, And

1610
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: I really just want to do things that's gonna change

1611
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 1: the world, like in other ways other than just what

1612
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: we do within the culture, like I invest in stuff

1613
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: within the community, Like our partner with Sprite we put

1614
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: out fifty dollars to put out trash cans and recycling

1615
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: bins and bad neighborhoods just to like clean up the

1616
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: litter to trash. Like I'm meant to like more than

1617
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: just what we do within the music industry, I want

1618
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: to take this following and do some better good for it.

1619
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: So hopefully within the next couple of years you'll start

1620
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 1: to see more things I do directly in the city

1621
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: that you could be like we got that because Cam

1622
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: did that, or this and that. So what we've got

1623
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: ship bro just working my side, a couple of artists, Hey,

1624
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: man zoom, just man on me, Man, you want to sign?

1625
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: Are you're right so way you don't want to know it?

1626
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: Man and turning. I'm trying to tell he got the

1627
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: playing over there, Man, he got the player said right

1628
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: in the mix. Man, Yeah you see here a good

1629
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: mixed too, though, because he got he got, he got

1630
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: the money and he got the he got the outlet

1631
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: to get them right there, like he got um, what's

1632
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: buddy name on? I can't tip my my schwits. He

1633
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 1: got tired in ba pocket tired, you know, tired he

1634
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: up there, You know what I'm saying, So he can't

1635
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: Man if you're tired and I'm gucci, I got the

1636
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 1: new audists right here, don't meet some money for her?

1637
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: Boom boom. You know what I'm saying and sending up

1638
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 1: through there. You know I ain't gonna say tired all though,

1639
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: but you you're a bit part here, big part in

1640
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: that situation, tied is that nigked for real? We're doing

1641
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: salute salute, salute, salute. Appreciate you'all pulling up. You know

1642
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Cam Kurt must continue success. Did you

1643
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: bringing some ship too? Yeah? Okay, let me you got

1644
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: to do that Sunday digital boxes and ship and pictures

1645
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: queer salute Sunday't gonna get a nig ship of my

1646
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: shoes can count? Kirt? I got Kirk exclusive, Well, appreciate super.

1647
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: Let me get one of the boxes. You got some

1648
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: boxes for you, but I don't know gonna let me

1649
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: show it to you to bring that alright, no keeping plastic.

1650
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: It's like the counch I just signed. Yeah, I just

1651
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: signed a new liquid deal. So I'm the face of

1652
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: this new brand called I w Okay. They actually under

1653
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: the family. What what kind of looking? It's a whiskey.

1654
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: They under the Diagio family to be honest to their

1655
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: partners with the rock and all that. It's all in

1656
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: the same household. But yeah, yeah, I just wanted to

1657
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: bring something to you guys. I don't know if y'all

1658
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: drink or not, but if not, what kind of looking?

1659
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: It's a whiskey. Whiskey, Yes, one of those little things. Bourbon, Yes,

1660
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: fine bourbon. Yes, I w harper. Where they get this up? Man?

1661
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: You get that at any liquor store you want to

1662
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: go to. Yeah. Big, this is a big play for

1663
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: show and that's a that's a gift the merch for

1664
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: you as well. I know, I bless you already know that,

1665
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:49,720
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, appreciate. Yeah. So so within this they

1666
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: made my own specialty cocktail. So within the within the boxes,

1667
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: it's all the ingredients to make like a drink that

1668
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: they made or their signature for me. So when you

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