1 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: He's hanging with the boys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Official Jealous Cowboys and now your 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: hosts Nate Newton, Josh Ellis, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Hello from Oxnard. Something is wrong with my headset. It 5 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: sounds like, sure, it's not just you. No, what is 6 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: all of this thing? Holy cow? This is gonna drive 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: me nuts. Sorry, Shannon Grows here with Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton, Oxnard, California. 8 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Two more days boys, today and tomorrow, and then we're 9 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: packing this stuff up and heading home on Friday. Yes, sir, 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: we got a very special guest on set with us 11 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: for about the next fifteen to twenty min Nate, I'm 12 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna let you do the intro because you've been high 13 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: on this guy, this Jars Tapper man. But let me 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: get an Oklahoma state. Oklahoma, No, that's what you better 15 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: do it. Man. All I know is he's here, and 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: I tell you this right here. A lot of people 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: to know about this cat because they changed defensive systems 18 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and he went from a penetrator to getting 19 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: off the rock to have to catch people paying the 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: two cap. That's when you have to catch folks. Now, 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: he's a penetrator and that's what he does best. And 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: that's why he's here with the Dallas Cobley we stole 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: him from the draft. I do know that. I do 24 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: know that. I don't know about the college, but I 25 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: do know about the program. Yeah, so, Nate, So what 26 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: we what we typically do is we ask a couple Nate, 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: So now I don't let you ask the first question. 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: I feel like tapping on. What we what we normally do, Kid, 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: you good to do something because this is gonna drive 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: me absolutely nuts. I can't hear anything out of this. Okay, 31 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: all right, So what we do is we typically ask 32 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a couple of football questions and then we want to 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: get to know you as a person. So we're gonna 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: let Nate go in hard. Nate, what have you been 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: seeing on tape? That's that's got you on tap this year. 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: See last year I noticed about Charles Tapper. That's a 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: lot better. Can't think it was that he got off 38 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the rock. That's that was the first thing that I 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: noticed about you, That you got off the rock, and 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, your back go out. This 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: year here I noticed we drafted the young guy Charles, 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: and we're talking about this guy DeMarcus coming back. We 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: talked about that guy. You were lost in the shuffle 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: with everybody else. I'm like, I want to see what 45 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: tapp going to. Brother. You started at OTA's rookie menicamp 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: again this year bringing that speed, Man, Where do you 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: get that first step quickness that you have? Man? Man, 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: I would just say, my mom, My mom, she's still 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: with that hard work attitude. And me was like, man, 50 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: when whenever you step want to feel whatever you're doing 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: in life, you gotta go full speed, one hundred moss 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: paw adding and that hardwork. I remember watching my mom 53 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: go to work, waking up at five o'clock in the morning, 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: making sure I'm dressed for school, making sure she's dressed, 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: making sure that we had food on the table, And 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: it was like, if she can do if she can 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: work that hard making shark, I can do it in 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: my life. I'm not come about to football and doing 59 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: something I love. It makes it kind of easy. Yeah. 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: So now here we set today, we worried about who's 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna be the right defensive end at child And I 62 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: may be putting a little undue pressure on you but 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: when I saw versus this last game, first, the first 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: game versus this game. Here was even your run which 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: you're getting off to the ball so quick. Even your 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: run defense it seemed to being tracked. It's like you 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: defended the run, you set the corner a couple of times. 68 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: I mean, and I know, God, let him do the 69 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: introductions and all that, but I want to get straight 70 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: to the thing. Man. When when you came and saw 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: how we ran this defense and how Marinella was gonna 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: do things, how did that fit you your talent? Man? Man, 73 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I was happy. I was like, I can find you 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: be an athlete, Like, oh you like you said, we went. 75 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: I went from a two gap scheme to a true 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: one gap scheme, And it was like it was almost 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: unreal that I only got to worry about one gap 78 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: the whole game, Like you ain't gotta worry about trying 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: to come off helping the linebackers make another plan another gap. 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: Was like, just worry about your sea gap, get up 81 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: field and be disruptive in It took a little bit 82 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: of time because it was like I was reacting slow 83 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: because you know the four technique you move off the tackle, like, yeah, 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: the tackle is pretty much your dictating every every movement 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: that you do at the four time the four hour, 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: and now it was like you become the dictator throw 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: your fastball at them. So it's like, man, the more 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: speed you can thought the guy, the more moved you 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: can get to dude with the guy. All Right, well, 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn you over to these guys. Let him 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: into you are man, I just I want to get 92 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: into that right away. So I'm gonna turn you over 93 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: to these two exprests. Hey, you never need to apologize 94 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: on the ever for anything, because we gonna screw some 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: stuff up, right. Luckily we haven't done that yet. Yeah. Yeah, 96 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: So may NELLI talk about just talk about Marinelli. He's 97 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: one of the most fascinating people that I've ever been 98 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: around because it's demeanor. He's just like he's quiet, and 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: then when he gets out there with you guys, it's 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,679 Speaker 1: like a totally different person. Man. He just cuts losing 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: and he's colorful, got some colorful language. He's like one 102 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of the greatest teacher I ever had. Though It's like 103 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: when he was little, like coming up in inner city, 104 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: like people are always going to yell at you, and 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: you gotta learn like, you can't take the yelling there's 106 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: something negative. You gotta take what they're saying. You gotta 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: take the positive from it, and you gotta make your 108 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: game better because if you just listen to the yelling, 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna get you down and you're gonna start thinking 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: negative about yourself. You're not gonna're gonna lose that confidence. 111 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: So I remember last year, I was like, man, I 112 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of lost confidence because like he's just staying on 113 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: and standing on me. And then I started talking to 114 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: the veteran guys like Tie and d Law and all 115 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: those guys and teammack at the time, he was like, 116 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: he's on you because he liked you. Like the moment 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: that he stopped talking to you, that's when you should 118 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: are right now. If he's on you, if he's on 119 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: you and custing you all like that, that mean he 120 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: likes he sees something needs And when we get to 121 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: the film room, he would break it down like tap, 122 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: you're not doing this. You're not coming off the ball 123 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: hall enough, you're not running to the ball, you're not 124 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: being aggressive as you need to be. And it's like, man, 125 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: he just he taught me so much over these last 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: two years and it's more, it's bigger than football things 127 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: he taught me. Taught me like the same as you're 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: working hard in this field, like work hard in your 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: family life. Like I just had a daughter. He was like, 130 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: all right, treat your dog like that. You're working so 131 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: hard in this football field. You need to work hard 132 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: to take care of your daughter and let football be 133 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: her money. Like don't let this because you can always 134 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: find the next thing to do. Like she's young and 135 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: you don't know what her feature is going to entail, 136 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: so you gotta always be worried about your daughter. And 137 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: he's just taught me so many men skills that I 138 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: didn't learn because I lost my father so young. How 139 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: much has your approach changed since you've had had your daughter? 140 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: It changed a lot. I mean it's like like they say, 141 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: like you start the thing last, like you you put 142 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: yourself left, Like now you're taking kids, three people, you 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: got your right now. My baby went imrried the time 144 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: we got my baby, mother and my daughter. So it's 145 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: like those two come for anything, like I gotta make 146 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: sure they're straight, got to make sure they can eat, 147 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: have her pampas, making sure that you know, we ain't 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: gonna call the baby mama bertrand yeah, now don't she 149 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: don't take a fist. It's just like we haven't took 150 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: that next step yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's definitely real. 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: And then I got my two little brothers. My mom 152 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: been in the hospital, so if her been in the hospital, 153 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I just it's kind of like I had to take 154 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: that role of now you're the father to the father 155 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: figure to your cheer brother. So it's like, Okay, now 156 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: I got two more kids. So I'm slowly moving him 157 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: to Frisco because you know, Baltimore and Frisco. Frisco, you 158 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: can't get wrong with the school system. Man, Like, that's 159 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the best school system I've ever seen in my life. 160 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Like my little brother, he came from Baltimore, he's getting 161 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: straight fs and he came to Frisco. Now he's getting 162 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: ais and bees and it's like he's like he loves school. 163 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: He like, man, I can't wait to talk to the the school. 164 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that. Yeah, man, I could be in Frisco. Yeah, 165 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: so talk a little bit. So you talked about growing 166 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: up in the inner city and losing your father at 167 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: a young age. Kind of talk to talk us through 168 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: When did you start playing football? Where'd you go to 169 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: high school? You grew up in Maryland, right, who recruited 170 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: you out of high school? And then college and then 171 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: kind of moving into the Cowboys kind of give us 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: that whole little scope of a life there. Mins is 173 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: a little crazy. So I didn't start playing football. To 174 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: my sophomore year high school, my mom said, you give 175 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: you get a job or play football football. The crazy 176 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: thing is I picked a job and she was like, no, 177 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get no job. You're gonna play football. 178 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Because I was a huge from seven to twenty one 179 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: in the city of Baltimore. All you want to do 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: is play basketball. Basketball is the thing that you eat 181 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: sleep when you live and you love it because it's 182 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: like it is just a documentary just came out to 183 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: dumbball boys, and like it pretty much tells you why 184 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: our kids, why we love like we love basketball so 185 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,119 Speaker 1: much in Baltimore. So seven twenty when I played basketball 186 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: and Tim Gray, yeah, I tried off for the team 187 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm just trying to get cut. 188 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Like they put me in receiver. So I was like, 189 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: I ran they threw a flower route. I ran the 190 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: slant and they threw me a slant. I dropped the 191 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: ball on purpose. They put me in D line. I 192 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: was just getting paying, like, hey, I'm gonna get cut 193 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: so I can go ahead and get back to basketball season. 194 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: But my mom ended up putting. She told the coaches 195 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: that I was trying to do so they made me 196 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: sit the bench that whole year, and it was like, no, 197 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't like sitting the bench, like I'm gonna work 198 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: hard at this thing now the team trying to succeed 199 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: at So I read the bench the whole year. And 200 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: then my grandmother passed away from breast can to that 201 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: day year and it was like, okay, this is even 202 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: more motivation. I want to be good at this sport. 203 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: And then my junior year, like the end of my 204 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Songoma year. Going to my junior I mat a guy 205 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: named Corey Robinson. He said, bro, you can even drive 206 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: a Hondo Lamborghini just like that. I said, what do 207 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: you mean Hondo Lamborghini. He said, you can drive a 208 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: Honda or Lamborghini. I was like, I want to drive 209 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a Lamborghini. He said, okay, if you buy in a 210 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: football and you let me train you and two cheat 211 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of techniques and you accept this invite 212 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: to the Allmy All American Combine. In the next fifteen 213 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: to twenty years, you could be driving to Lamborghini. And 214 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, no way in the world. But I brought 215 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: into brought in me and him. We started working out 216 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: at the school called Calcaholl in Baltimore City. I mean 217 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: it's a Catholic school, but I didn't go to the school. 218 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: But it's like it was seven players of Calvall who 219 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: had invite to the Allmyle American combin and off the 220 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: shrimp for those guys they gave me. When he was like, 221 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I got a six four guys, super freak, can run 222 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: four five, all this good stuff. He was like, that's unreal. 223 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: So I went down there and did all those things, 224 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: and two weeks after then I had a four rode 225 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: off of the Oklahoma never had never played the snap 226 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: of football. Wow. Yeah, I especially come from Bottomore where 227 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: it's like you don't see too many football So like 228 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: our biggest football star was Table Naston. He was a receiver, 229 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's my role model. Was like, my 230 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: role model is a receiver. So it's like now it's changed, 231 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: but it's like my role model because of what he 232 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: did and how he embraced the challenge and he opened 233 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: up he opened the gateway fus bottomore kids to play football. 234 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: It was like, that's my role model right there. That's 235 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: why I look up to And then I got to Oklahoma. Oklahoma, 236 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: it was the best four years of my life because 237 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: it was like I finally learned the game of football. 238 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: You learned that football isn't like basketball where it's this, this, this, 239 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: it's a strategic playing in the game, Like it's so 240 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: much that goes into it, Like people don't understand how 241 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: much defense controls offense offer controls defense, and how much 242 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: special teams, Like the special teams is such a key, 243 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: key aspect of the game that once I started to realize, 244 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I really liked this one because it's 245 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: so much learned that goes into it, like being somebody 246 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: outside looking at you, like, man, it's just a bunch 247 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: of crazy house I did playing football. No, like really 248 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: dive into the spool and learning. He's like, it's so 249 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: much to learn. And when I first got to old you, 250 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: we were playing the four three, the same defense playing now, 251 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, I was the I was the Russian. 252 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm gonna love this. I love 253 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: russing the quarterback. This is fun. Just run man. And 254 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: then that next year Brevenders had just got fired and 255 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Mike Steeps had came in and Mike steps he's he's 256 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: okay front guy. So we started moving to okay front 257 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and it was like between me and Eric striking to 258 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: play the jat and he was like, man, tap you 259 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: six two, you big, you can move, so let's slide 260 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: you in the four technique and see what you can do. 261 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like I just brought into him, like, man, 262 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: whatever whatever it takes to make the team win. I'm 263 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: a boy in the door. So I brought into the 264 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: fore technique and it took a little bit of time 265 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: for me to adjust to it. And at that time 266 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: I was two sixty five taking on playing the four 267 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: technique and it was like he like, tap, just get 268 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: off the ball and make plays happen. And that was 269 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: my sophomore year. I was playing my best year. It 270 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: was like I was at the four technique just getting 271 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: on the ball and making plays happening. I didn't need 272 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: the technique of the four technique get So then went 273 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: to my June year and I really learned the technique 274 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: and the four techn dreymutgommery set down that whole all 275 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: season and we just learned the four technique. He tapped, 276 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: this is the steps you need to take, you need 277 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: to be about partly two seventy five to two eighty. 278 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I got to two ninety, so I was two ninety. 279 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting styling him. They wasn't moving. So that 280 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: was probably my best technique year, but it was somebody 281 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: get something, a little baby girl, somebody, hey, how are 282 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: you through? Okay? Yeah, somebody crashed the set all right. Yeah. 283 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: So my Jaine year, it was probably like my best 284 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: technique year when it came to the four technique, and 285 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: it was like my least production year, but like my 286 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: technique grades every game, I was great now of like 287 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: nineties and hundred, I'm like, man, that's I'm playing the 288 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: technique perfect. I'm not making plays. So that Joine year 289 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a bus season for me. 290 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know if I really 291 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: liked the four technique no more then Coach jreymcgommery, the 292 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: guy who taught me everything about the sport he got. 293 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: He ended up going to Green Bay. Man when he 294 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: when they when it happened, I was like, man, I 295 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: just went to like a locker room. Now. Just Crocks 296 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: was like, man, this is the guy who taught me football. 297 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: He was like, man, when you get to the league, 298 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: you probably won't play four technique. The more you're gonna 299 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: play the five technique, So don't really buy into the technique. 300 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: But it's like, man, I want to win. I just 301 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: want to win a ring, right man, Really, I'm trying 302 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to win a ring. So he had laugh. And then 303 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: we got a guy name coach darn Reynolds. Coachal Rendors 304 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: came in. It was like exact and he was like 305 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: the exact same coaches Montgomery. But he was like, tap, 306 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 1: I don't want you at two ninety. I want you 307 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: to be at two seventy five and let's get off 308 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the rock and just let you play. So he was 309 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: like at this time, I was a senior year I 310 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: had my confidence was up. It was like I can't 311 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: do I can't really make too any mistakes. So it 312 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: was like I was trying anything spin moves, hit the 313 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: four technique and it was like the cam once you 314 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: get your confidence back up there, you just try little things. 315 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: And my senior year, I started off slow. The first 316 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: four games, I ain't a sack. Then it was like 317 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: as those first four games, I gotta sack every game 318 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: the four technique and it was like just brought in well. 319 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: End up going to the final four and that was 320 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: like that was the greatest year. That was a great 321 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: year for us. My senior year to leave with a 322 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: big twelve championship, making to the final four at the 323 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: four technique, and man, it was a blessing. That was 324 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: How was your social life going from an inner city 325 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: kid in Maryland to all of a sudden you're in Norman, Oklahoma. Man, 326 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: was that a little bit to get the hardest transition 327 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: right there. I remember the plane ride. I had the dreads, 328 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: I had them both braided back. I had my cut 329 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: off because there pretty like we like to be stylish 330 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: and dress up really nice. Though. I get a plane, 331 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: got on nice clothes. I'm like, man, I hope these 332 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: guys cool when the can dress So I get off 333 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: walking in like, man, he's some country dudes, like big 334 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: shirt stag. First time I seen country booths. I heard 335 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: my first country song, I'm like, I need to go 336 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: back home. I'm not I don't like this, and she's like, no, 337 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: when you start something, you got to finish it. I 338 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: don't care. It was like many time of like, man, 339 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I tried to save up about my little weekend checks 340 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and fly back home. She told the coaches so quick, 341 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and he tried to fly back home. Don't let him 342 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: go home, Like are you gonna do I can't come 343 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: home to see you. Nope, you don't need to see 344 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: me hook up. So like the first two years was 345 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: it was a main transition, but it was it was 346 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: it was transition for the better of me. I learned 347 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: how to communicate with people. I learned how to I 348 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: learned that you don't like people are not everybody's out 349 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: here trying to do me wrong. Because you sit at 350 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Baltimore that you gotta think, like, man, this person is 351 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: trying to do me wrong because that's like everybody got 352 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: to eat and it's not a lot of opportunities out 353 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: there in Baltimore. So when I got to Oklahoma, it's 354 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: like there's so many opportunities and people are really trying 355 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: to help you for the greater good. And it was 356 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: like it was almost unreal, and that's something charm like 357 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: people just saying, how is you walking down there? Why 358 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: is everybody being so nice? I'm like, but it was 359 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: a great transition for me, and I try to get 360 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: like some of my family members to come down there 361 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: and see this to try to transform, but it took 362 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: me two years. So it's like sometimes when they come 363 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: down and they they're not coming for college and stuff, 364 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: so it's like I gotta sit there, like, man, chill out, 365 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: just just just sit in the house and just shut 366 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: up and listen to me. Because it took me two 367 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: years to transition. This is gonna probably take you full 368 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: because you're not going to college and you're not gonna 369 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: have a league way that I had, and people are 370 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: not gonna give you the same respect that they gave me. Yes, wow, 371 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: your mom sounds like a powerful woman. Oh yeah, she's 372 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: the greatest woman, man. I mean everything in life, I 373 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: just give it back to her because it's like my 374 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: two little brothers they're both adopted, and it was like 375 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: she didn't have to do that. I got two older 376 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: brothers that she adopted when she was like fifteen years old, 377 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: and she was she was like I just always wanted 378 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: to take kids, people and help people, because she was like, 379 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: come from bating. It's not too many people trying to 380 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: do that. So like like right now she's working to 381 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: alternative school with the worst kids in Baltimore, and like 382 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: when I uh, she called me Monday, She's like, man, 383 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: dived to come to kids in school starving. So I 384 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: was like, man, I can buy some pizza. So I called. 385 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: We called like a hundred bucks of pizza and we 386 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: gave it to him, and I'm kids, man, it just 387 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: changed some of their life and it was like, man, 388 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: it's somebody that actually kid about us, that played for 389 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. And some of those kids actually they 390 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: started going back to their own schools. And she told 391 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: me like some of them getting aids and trying to 392 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: attend college now, and it was like those little things 393 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: right there, it really helped those kids. And she's like this, 394 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: she was like, I'm trying to tell you this for years, 395 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: and she was like now that she has can't, She's like, 396 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: it's your time now, it's your time to help the 397 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: den and give back. Like a hot day. Wow, you 398 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: got bro, you got yourself and a couple of brothers 399 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: couple older brothers, got two younger brothers, Sean and Jordan. 400 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: Sean just turned fifteen, Jordan's thirteen, so they're trying to 401 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: deal with rap career night. Now, it's funny. Your mom's 402 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: got to be loving that little granddaughter. Then she loves she. 403 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: We trying to get Ah in and out of my mom. 404 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: She's so strong, she's like she's the black She was 405 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: my father figure and my mother figure. So the tough love, 406 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Like she don't like to tell me things because she's like, 407 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: you don't need to worry about me. You need to 408 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: worry about what she's doing in this field. But it's like, oh, yea, 409 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: let me, you gotta you gotta let me. Let me 410 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: be the male figure in your life. Well, we gotta 411 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: find you, Like one day I wanted to find love 412 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: because it's like everybody just need love sometimes. Man, she 413 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: just need love. And she's just like I can't give 414 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: her that love that she might need sometimes and one 415 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: day hopefully, like I heard Jay's in the song Smile 416 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: is like my He's like, my, I just want to 417 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: see you happy. I don't kives him or her. I 418 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: feel the same way. I just want to see you happy. 419 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Because you grind it twenty one years of my life 420 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: to get me to this stage and we didn't make it, 421 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: but we got some lead way to win. We can 422 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: make it. That that's awesome man. And just and you're 423 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: a quiet guy, you normally quiet. You wouldn't be able 424 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: to tell it from this show because but you're so 425 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: passionate man, Like you can just feel with somebody's passionate, 426 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: like you can feel your mom's presence, Like you're so 427 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: fired up when you talk about her and where you 428 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: came from everything. Man, that's awesome. It's cool. Like you're 429 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: always so quiet, it's like hey, what's up, Hey, Hey, 430 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: how you doing. And then man, when you talk about her, 431 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: it's just like, ah, yeah, because she gave me so much, 432 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: just like it's unreal how much like she really gave 433 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: me her life. Like from seven to twenty one, we 434 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: went to AU basketball. People know about AU basketball. It's 435 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: all year round, non stop basketball games. And from AU basketball, 436 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: we will go to like the little Project basketball leagues. 437 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: From Project Basketball leagues, we're going to the inner city leagues. 438 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: And if we NCY leagues were going out the DC 439 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: to play basketball. I remember one like one year, oh 440 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: thirteen year old, eighth grade year and my little brother 441 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: had um what it's called the thomb. He had cancer 442 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: something I forgot the name of the cancer. She was like, Okay, 443 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: since he got cancer, I'm gonna stay in hospital every day. 444 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna need you to com meet back and 445 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: forth because your basketball chreers more like, we can't we 446 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: can't forget about that because you're gonna be that one 447 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: that gets us out of this situation. Wow. And like 448 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: she's really like I sweared from seven to twenty one. 449 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: She didn't have friends, she didn't go out, she didn't 450 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: do nothing but take me the basketball games to school. Yes, 451 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: if she can make that commitment, it's I gotta make this. 452 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: It's only right, you know. And and I talked to 453 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: a lot of single parents, and they always going at 454 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: the other parents, you know, whether it's a mother father. 455 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Out of that, you need to talk. And I asked, 456 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: I say, how how dedicated are you? And see this 457 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: is what man, we need to hold onto this film 458 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: in here because I'm gonna get this tape, but chill 459 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: for mention cousin another parent coming to me and say 460 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: that out of this, I'm saying, you know, what. Let 461 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: me show you what if you dedicate yourself to the calls, 462 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: this is what it should turn out to be close 463 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: to it. Not the NFL, but just life itself something 464 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: because it's other mothers like your mother that's dedicated and 465 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: their kids ain't fresh and athletes, but they are successful. Man. 466 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: And see you you just living that success. She could 467 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: have did the same thing. If you was an IBM guy, 468 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: you'd have been the same guy. Yeah. Success. And it's 469 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: so cool to hear. Like a lot of people play 470 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 1: sports and try to get to another level for selfish reasons, 471 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: for the money, the cars, you know, the beautiful women. 472 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: You're trying to do it for your mom, your brothers, 473 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: your little girl. And that's what that's what dropped. You 474 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: want to know why he gets off the ball so fast, 475 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: that's in his mind. Man. He still come up out 476 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: of them. Man, Man, you gotta keep creating pipelines like 477 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: Tyvon gave me a pipeline and that was a bunch 478 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: of us. And then I got sorry Jones, we got me, 479 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: We got um Kendall, Fuller, cow fully got the whole 480 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: full of brother. That was a bunch of bottomore bottomore 481 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: guys in NFL. So now we gotta give back. We 482 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: gotta give them more bottomore guys here or somewhere. They 483 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: ain't gotta be NFL. They could become a great teacher, 484 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: great right, a great rapper, great anything, great man, just 485 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: to create the opportunity for yourself. Awesome. Man. We know 486 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: you gotta go get taped up. You're gonna get to 487 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: play any this weekend. Oh yeah, hopefully we're gonna see 488 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: how me snaps. You take a get any clue? I 489 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: don't know, they said to Some of the older guys 490 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: are gonna get a lot of snaps, so we're definitely 491 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna Are you an old guy, No, I'm still a 492 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: young guy, still paving my way to my fantasy now. 493 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: And he said on that in the Rams game and 494 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: that snapping over the quarterbacks head, he thought he thought 495 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: you had a touchdown, but the guy held you. Man, 496 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: it's no excuse for that. I gotta get that. That's 497 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: my fault. I gotta get off that block and get 498 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: to that ball. I got cutted out of that plane. 499 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: But I'm happy because me out, because man, he was right. 500 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: My get off was late. I was playing to I 501 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: played high that whole entire game, like my pad level 502 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: was terrible to that game. That's what I've been practice, 503 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: and then we've been working on my stance. My stance 504 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: has to get better so when I get off the 505 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: ball it's a instead of a creeping out a little bit. 506 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: So we've been working on that all week. Well, man, 507 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get you back on when we 508 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: get to the Star. Try to get you on maybe 509 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: once or twice a month. This has been great talking 510 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: to you. Man had a great imagine. We gotta go. 511 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: I got pressed out of that plays because man, he 512 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: was right. My get off was late. I was playing 513 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: to I played that is going on? Yeah, we repeat 514 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: all right, TA appreciate it. Thank you so much. It's 515 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we're 516 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk more football from Ostart, we the entertainment loving 517 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: people to be the best unlimited wireless plan ever from ATNT. 518 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: What else do you want? 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It's bowling night with brands, 546 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: and you're hanging down together. Bit some us better, but 547 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: you're craving something the better. But they're depens. You don't 548 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: know what to do. Pepper Head, you like to believe 549 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: of doctor Pepper. When your door Pepper. When you crave 550 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: a doctor Pepper, nothing else will do. Pick up an 551 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: ic cold twenty ounce bottle today, Doctor Pepper, you grave. 552 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: I hear all this talk about what it takes to 553 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: be a cowboy. Everyone's got their ideas, but I just 554 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: say to myself, it's what's up top that matters. Sure, 555 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: you need men with the muscle and heart to get 556 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: her done. But if your scouts and coaches are listening 557 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: out there a word of advice. Pick the man with 558 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: the most well worn stetson. That's the one most cut 559 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: out to be a cowboy. Stetson hats her handmade right 560 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: here in Texas and have been on cowboys heads for 561 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: over one hundred and fifty years. The rest of you 562 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: can visit stetson dot com slash cowboy to find a 563 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: retailer nearest you. Hanging with the boys. We are back 564 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: live from Oxnard, California, the tennis court at the Residence 565 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: in Marriott for today and tomorrow. We're almost done. Man. 566 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: You know what, I don't mind it out here. I 567 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: don't mind it. I don't have my family's back in Louisiana. 568 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't have a girlfriend, I have no pets, so 569 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: free food and living out of a hotel does not 570 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: bother me. And speaking of family, man, wow, shout out 571 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: to all the moms. Man, Yeah, I'd like to interview 572 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: his mom sometimes. Oh that would be great. Hey, there's 573 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: as a Star magazine article here. And I'm serious about that. 574 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: I have so many moms and so many dads coming 575 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: to me and say how much you talk to my 576 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: kid or I want you to you know, the dad 577 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: ain't doing this or the mom ain't doing that. And 578 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: my question to all parents, because when they sit down 579 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: and tell me the story, then I stopped and I say, well, 580 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: how much time are you the one that's with them 581 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: dedicating to your kids and then they go to giving 582 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: me all these stories. Well I got, I got, I got, 583 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: and see this here I'm saying, I want to hold 584 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: on to this. I'm sure the tapper hold on to 585 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: something sitting down, ma'am. Watch this here and see what 586 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: because it ain't who ain't there, it's who's there. And 587 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: you've heard Jason Garrett say, I can't coach you ain't 588 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: in practice, but I can coach who it is in practice. 589 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: And that's what life is all about. You know, we 590 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: we as much as we won't occurred here last week 591 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: we had. I had the bat with you. You know, 592 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't here. You know, I see, I see you 593 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: like to see how they slapped the crap out of 594 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: me yesterday? Man, we got We got to meet Jeff 595 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: Swain's parents yesterday. Yes great, you know, And it ain't 596 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: often you meet people that just carrying people, you know, uh, 597 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: of identity, they're here to see their son and spend time, 598 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: but just people in general that they they are carrying people. 599 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: And that because you normally meet people who are about themselves. 600 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: And then when I meet people that care about people, 601 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: that gets to me. Man, that that that you know, 602 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: that's why I brought them in a tent. You know 603 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: they care. That's a difference, man, it's a difference. What 604 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: was that like for you? Playing for your parents and 605 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: for your mom and all that. But my thing is 606 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: my mom and dad or my support. But I was 607 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: I've been always fortunate both mom. Dad grew up with 608 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: a good household, good side of the household. Uh. Mom 609 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: was always supported of sports. My dad wanted you to work, 610 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: get a job. See Tad would have Dad would have 611 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: had to working. You see what I'm saying, yo, So uh, 612 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: the same rules. And the guy we had the other day, 613 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: I got tapped. We had and who had the day 614 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: before Exavier? You heard how his parents. I can identify, 615 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: even though I got off track later in my life. 616 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: I can identify with parents who have rules and regulations. 617 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: I can identify with those people. Man, I can't identify 618 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: with kids that has no no rules, no regulations. Yeah, 619 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: that's a lack of discipline, and it's gonna spill. It's 620 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: gonna spill over on to you soon or later. I 621 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: think you see that with these guys out here. One 622 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: of the reasons they made it was their upbringing. Ye 623 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: parents like someone that believed in them. And invested time 624 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: and Exavier, man, I mean just that he said yesterday. 625 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: Uh a man married his mother. He was four years old, 626 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: his dad gone, and he carried Exavier with rules and understandings. Man, 627 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna love you and we're gonna treat you right, 628 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: and and all you need is one like Kurt. You 629 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: may have grew up with both of your parents. Maybe 630 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: you didn't say with you, but y'all had rules, y'all 631 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: had regulations, and the rules and regulations were number just 632 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: to give you parameters to grow. That's all that is. Yeah, 633 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: one of the cool coolest things. And Taps really a 634 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: quiet guy. If you've ever been around here. He doesn't 635 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: talk much. And I thought we were I was gonna 636 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: have to like interrupt him, be like, dude, you gotta go. 637 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: He actually ran from here to the locker room because 638 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: like he was, he was gonna be late. But walking 639 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: over here, I was like, you know, hey, you ready 640 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: to get back, you know, back to Dallas. He's like, man, 641 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready to see my little girl. I was like, 642 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: how old is She was like seven months old? And 643 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: I said she she's getting fun now, right, He's like, 644 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. I was like she walking. He goes, no, 645 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I hope she doesn't start walking before I get back. 646 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, this is a family guy, 647 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, family oriented guy. It's it's so great to 648 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: see that man. You know, especially I came from kind 649 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: of you know, my mom, my mom, and my grandfather. 650 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: My grandfather was disabled, so he had he had lupus, 651 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: and he really kind of raised me. I never really 652 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: went to daycare. He always picked me up from school 653 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: and then you know, my pretty much lived with just 654 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: me and my mom a whole life. But like you said, 655 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: she you know, I was always at baseball practice. I 656 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: was always at basketball practice. I was always doing this 657 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: and they invested the time and the energy and me 658 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: to get me. What that's the deal? Man? I see 659 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: so many uh people man that uh they're looking for 660 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: and this is not a turn on, but they're looking 661 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: for somebody else to do the job. And when I 662 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: meet people that that that do the job. Your your grandfather, 663 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: your mother did the job, your parents did the job. 664 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: Now are you gonna turn out one hundred percent? No? 665 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Life got something to do with that. But the guys 666 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: that we've been fortunate to meet on this on this 667 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: on this show, and you and you one thing I 668 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: can say, you didn't stumble because of lack of good 669 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: love and parents. The bottom line, yeah, I can't. When 670 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: I stumble, you can never point to my mother and 671 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: father because they always had rules and regulations that set 672 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: me and played. You heard Xavier Woods say I ain't 673 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: going back home, man, I got to be back home. 674 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm twenty some years. I can't get a bit to 675 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: the cock and say, hey, mom, wanna believe that was 676 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: the same way in my house? I was forty fifty 677 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: years over there. But like, where are you going? Son? 678 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: Well that I'm gonna step out of minute. It's ten thirty, son, 679 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: what's good happening at ten thirty? Have you call your 680 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: wife let her know you's going out? Well? Speaking of families, 681 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: these a lot of these guys are gonna be playing 682 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: back in Dallas for the first time on Saturday in 683 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: front of the home crowd. So I'm sure their families 684 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: will be there and their friends and tell us about 685 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: is that a distraction? Is that? Is that a good thing? 686 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,479 Speaker 1: Is it? Does it make you play harder? What's explain 687 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: that experience? First time? You can and be it can be, 688 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's just your coach. It's what your coach demands 689 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: from you. He'll if they get there enough time, the 690 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: game being at six, if he get there, if they 691 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: get there enough time, which they I don't know what 692 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: time they're leaving Friday, you guys probably know they get 693 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: there and then he'll let them get some time with 694 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: the family, you know, let them get the kinks out 695 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden because a lot now 696 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: good thing about this regime down is own and off. 697 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: In these two or three weeks, you've seen different guys 698 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: with their wives and their kids, so it ain't been 699 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: total isolation like when I played. You know, that's why 700 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: Jim and him had to be real tough on us, 701 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: because now you go two three weeks or two of these, 702 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: you ain't got nothing left for mom. Oh god, so 703 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: you do get home, it's some things out, you know, 704 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: so uh and uh. But the thing about it is 705 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: these guys are so hungry. You know that they'll be 706 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: ready for the game. I mean, because we have Kurt, 707 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: we have a true competition that left guard. We had 708 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: all most out secondary. I mean, granted we got two 709 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: guys that starters, but our secondary is wide open. Xavier 710 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: Woods pushing the issue back there with Jeff Heath. So 711 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, our Devien's line is not settled. And 712 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: guess what if I'm if I'm Tapper, I'm gonna make 713 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: them realize that the little ten or fifteen plays you 714 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: thought you was gonna give me just want the twenty 715 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty five. So guess what that make a guy that's 716 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: coming off suspension saying, oh my god, where do I fit? 717 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: So now he got to come back? Ready? He said, 718 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: it's some competition. Now you say, how ninety six and 719 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: the president, you know, college and the president be going 720 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: at it. You saw ysterday when Tyrone Smith came back, 721 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: how all of a sudden Jonathan Cooper looked like a 722 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: better player because he realized by Bill regardless of how 723 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: he didn't look too good. But it's competition. And then 724 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: they don't want to think about bringing Liell back in there, 725 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you you on the bench, 726 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: So you gotta pick your game. It's competition that back 727 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: back up running back. You know me and I hate 728 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: to say this, but I have to get I have 729 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: to get the Smith kid a whole lot of reps. 730 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: But see what you got, I mean, really see what 731 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: you got, man, This dude just ran behind second third 732 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: and I don't know what other teams it still got 733 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: yards come on now? Yeah? Yeah, well Man and Cavan 734 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: Frasian I stepped up. Uh what's the other guy number 735 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: twenty six Thomas, Yeah, twenty twenty three. All these little 736 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: guys starting to step up many Speaking of reps, what 737 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: do you as far as playing time, what are you 738 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: guys thinking? Are we're gonna see Dak for a series? 739 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: This give Tyron Smith is in there in there speaking 740 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: of now, he's telling me that he's coming on the 741 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: show tomorrow. So we got a heavy hitter tomorrow. Yeah, 742 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm cashing a favor I showed should have went on 743 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: that favorite. I don't know. We're gonna get him on again. 744 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna get Yeah, I'll just probably have to owe 745 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: him bribing him a couple of steak dinners or something. 746 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what that payoffensive. 747 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what that payoff's gonna be. But he's 748 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: telling me he's coming on the show tomorrow, so you 749 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: guys make sure. Yeah, I hit him yesterday, I saw him. 750 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: He's going into the massage deal and uh, I can 751 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: tell we had a good practice yesterday. And I was 752 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: telling Bron we had a great practice. And what made 753 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: me really know it is I saw the President. I 754 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: saw Frederick when he says the president, he's talking about 755 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: Zach markin he calls me the president. I saw. I 756 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: saw all of them, and they're getting their backcrack. That 757 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: me the defense brought a little Yeah. Yeah, So I'm 758 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something, man, Kurt, I'm loving it, baby. Yeah. 759 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean, wow man, now that you're here, man, wow man. 760 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: So this is the crew right now. We got we 761 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: got jobs, but we don't even care, like really, we 762 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: could just be cost Maybe you'll get eaten by sharks. 763 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: Now sharking to me, I'm not Kurt's here because I 764 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: don't have to. I don't have to try to talk 765 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: as much. I just I'm not the football guy. I'm 766 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: just I'm the mediator. I just throw it out there 767 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: and let you guys. We got stats guy, we got 768 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: former player guy, former player guys. Where tap now? I 769 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 1: we all will crew bro Will Crew, Motley Cruise. Man, 770 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: it's oh, Kurt h I said this and I'm glad 771 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: it didn't work. And y'all heard me say about a 772 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: month ago. You know, I had my beard, all my hair, 773 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, the beard here is the man, and even 774 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: Josh had a little something gone. Kurt tried to have 775 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: Kurt try for like a week. Yeah, and he sounds 776 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: a picture. Yeah wow. I actually thought about carrying it 777 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: over to training camp. My wife was like, this ain't working. 778 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: You ever seeing those those hairless dogs in Chinese Crest 779 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: they got the hair? I was like, wow, Kurt sending 780 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: me and me and Nate Josh the picture and like 781 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: at first, I was like all I saw was like skin. 782 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: I was like, what is Kurt sending me? Like sending 783 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: the nudes to work? And it was like it was 784 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: like four hairs going out the side of his cheek. 785 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I put you through that. It's okay, Kurt, 786 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: we forget. Yeah, but I tell you, man, them boys 787 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna get back. They're gonna get a jetted because just 788 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: a week from that game, it's a rehearsal. Yeah yeah. 789 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: So you well, do you play a guy ten plays 790 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: or fifteen plays his game? He gonna go a half 791 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: next week, maybe three quarters, depending on how they look 792 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: and what's going on, because all of a sudden, we 793 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: don't have uh question for you guys, what did you 794 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: do with Zeke next two games? Because you ain't playing 795 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: him the fourth game? Definitely, what do you do the 796 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: next two games? I think he's gotta play something. I 797 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: think game get in there. I mean, like, even without 798 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: this spension hanging over him, I don't think he'd play 799 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot. You just want to get him beat up. 800 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: But I think he's got to get in there sum 801 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: just to get the reps. So, um, what do you think? 802 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: And you think you think fifteen plays gonna make a 803 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: difference six weeks? Well, you know, they actually asked Carrot 804 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: that today. They said, why why play the veterans at all? 805 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: Because what's seven snap's gonna make a difference? And I mean, 806 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: Garret is pretty adamant. He said, they need to work, 807 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: you know, Yea, no matter how much little, how little 808 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: it is, they need to work if you're gonna have 809 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: if you're getting ready for the first regular season game. 810 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 1: But I asked people, it's twenty plays in two weeks 811 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: gonna matter eight weeks from that? You know, it's a 812 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: good point. It makes me cause because what I gather 813 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: from looking at the NFL and they're people inside supposed 814 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: to be people. They are adamant about these six games. Yeah, 815 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: I've seen nowhere where nobody say, well, maybe they. I 816 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: mean it's like they call every network and say it's 817 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: six gamps and we're gonna fight for six games. Zeke 818 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: did officially appeal today. I think you still you got 819 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: a kind of plan, like he might be there opening night, 820 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, so it's not gonna be there. Yeah, because 821 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: he's a rat talent. He's a rat talent. Doesn't need 822 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: a lot of gamework. No, No, he's a rat talent. 823 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: If you if you ain't seen it now, you need 824 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: some new set I I need. It's a movie. I 825 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: thought about man with Tom cruise anywhere and he took 826 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: his eyes out and he gave him some new eyes. 827 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: Oh Minority Reporter. Yeah, he took Tom. He barely got 828 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: him out for the machine got him. Watched that show up. 829 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: I finished. I finished up the show Ozark last night. 830 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh they'll pull a dude's eyeball straight out of his 831 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: head on that show. What put him in a glass? 832 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: Like the guy one of the main guys in the 833 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: East Side Morales was out there at a camp. 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You're jus can't wait, 894 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: Kai man, I can't wait. I'm telling you, I like 895 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: this life. I do not have a problem with this life. 896 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: Like any rice peel off every day. I think I 897 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: had that today. They called it seasoned rice, but it 898 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: was the most bland I think they consider salt seasoning. Yeah, Kurt, 899 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: why don't you tell the people, the nice people that 900 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 1: are listening to us all about you get to plug 901 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: it d Our magazine. Yeah, all right, we won't find 902 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: any more out here at training camp. 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Speaking of 911 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: training camp, Friday, Friday is the last day that the 912 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: team is at Camp Nate. When do you head back? 913 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: Probably pull out tomorrow evening after we do t go 914 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: hang around for the show. Yeah, I'm doing the show, 915 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: hang around for tiring. Um, tomorrow will be our last show. 916 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: We got to pack up the gear tomorrow and send 917 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: it back on the equipment truck. So tomorrow will be 918 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: the last show of hanging with the boys until I 919 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 1: believe we'll be back on Monday. When we get back. Yeah, 920 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: and we'll be daily. We're gonna switch the time up 921 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 1: on you guys, because when we get back, we're gonna 922 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: try to have our show around open locker room when 923 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: the media comes in and and interviews the players and stuff. 924 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: That way we can pull them out of there and 925 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: get them on the show. So we'll be a little 926 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: bit of a moving target the first week back at 927 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: the Star until we get into a into a rhythm. Um, 928 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: the team's gonna they have a morning walk through on Friday, 929 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: then the charter leaves sometime around uh mid late morning 930 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: or midday. Um. I think I heard that we might 931 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: be back in Frisco or landing Dallas around four o'clock 932 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon Dallas time, and then I think the team 933 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: will then go to the Team Hope Tell, which is 934 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 1: the new omni there at the Star of Frisco. They'll 935 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: spend the night just like they would on a normal 936 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: road trip or a home game. They'll stay there, then 937 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 1: they'll get up and uh bust it to the stadium 938 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: for the game Saturday. That's I believe at six o'clock 939 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: Dallas time. Is that right, Arlington time? I believe so, 940 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: and uh be back at home for the next Uh 941 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: what the next two? Got the next one? Two? So? 942 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: Uh what are you guys? What are we looking for Saturday? 943 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 1: Are we are we still looking at the young guys 944 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: or old guys knocking rust off old guys. You know, 945 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: some guys improving themselves. Like you notice they've been playing 946 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: the president with um with Lyo Collins, trying to get 947 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: some chemistry there, and uh that's what they'll be continuing 948 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: to do. Uh even with the center, you know, uh 949 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: be knocking rust off with the left tackle Tyrone Smith, 950 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: knocking rust off the receivers, trying to get some continuity 951 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Young guys, continue to learn while you 952 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: play full speed. Continue to try to play with an 953 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: understanding of where you're supposed to be and what's your responsibilities. 954 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: You know, are we're still looking at real vanilla scheme 955 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: like that. You gotta understanding, Kurt. You you probably see 956 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: see this weekend, and we gotta hear people talk about it. 957 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be much to Marion Netli's defense, no way. 958 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: Now you'll see Lanahan doing a lot of different things. 959 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: H But we may have to scheme it up a 960 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: little more of Zeke's not there because we're not the 961 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 1: same team as when Zeke is there. We may it 962 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 1: may take us a couple of weeks just to find 963 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: out and this is the first place schedule, just to 964 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: find out what offensive line is. This thing ain't if 965 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: we still had Leary and Free, we'll be like, wow, man, 966 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: who's gonna start a left guard? You know, because we 967 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: got two studs at left guard. And then we're like, hey, 968 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: we got the old man up banging around Free. You know. 969 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: So you get what I'm saying. If you'll be looking 970 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: at a different them and be like, okay, we can 971 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: we can sustain the six game suspension. Now everything's a 972 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: little different. You agree, you agree, that disagree? I think, 973 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: and I wondered at this point, even though there's three 974 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: preseason games that left, do they kind of they can't 975 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: already know who's made a team. Yeah yeah, yeah, less 976 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: like it's somebody out there that's doing better than they 977 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: thought and they're gonna give a look. And this is 978 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: what this is what preseason games do, is they gotta 979 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: the first maybe forty eight guys they kind of know, 980 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: but it's about four or five or six. They're giving 981 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 1: them a chance to slide them and down that scale, 982 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, or even improving to that forty eight. It's 983 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: somebody out there that it's gonna catch the catch eye. 984 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, we'll know, you know by that fourth game 985 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: that man, let's watch this guy because you know he's 986 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: on the bubble. Do the players know that? And how 987 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: do they feel they at this point? You know? Man, 988 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: yeah you kind of know. I mean, the reps gonna 989 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 1: tell you. Coaches say whatever. You know, coach that comes 990 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 1: to you with some wild stuff too, like hey man, 991 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 1: you want to take a look at this guy. We'll 992 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: get you in in the fourth, but we need to 993 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,120 Speaker 1: take a long look at this guy. Now. It was 994 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: supposed to be your turn this game to be in 995 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: that third quarter spot, and all of a sudden, here 996 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: telling you didn't want to take an extra look at 997 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: this guy? You just slid down the scale. Let me 998 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: ask that's a that's a good point. And even in 999 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: regular season, when something kind of goes different than what's 1000 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 1: either planned or what's normally expected, do coaches come to 1001 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, here's what we're doing, this is 1002 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: why or do you just show up and when they 1003 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: tell you to go in, you go in? How does 1004 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches have it that way? You know 1005 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: what they're not going to explain. But at the beginning 1006 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: of the year, you know, like Belichick, he'll tell his 1007 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: guys like, look at here, all of y'all of value, 1008 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: You wouldn't be on this team. Now here this one 1009 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: coach telling you the truth. He said, but you may 1010 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: play this game, and you and our playing this game 1011 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: depending on my matchup thinking with my coaches. So and 1012 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 1: you see that in Belichick where you see Blunt disappeared 1013 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: for four games, not because they thing he did, but 1014 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: it's because of the matchups, you know. But they already 1015 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: knew that going into And I think Jason Garrett the 1016 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 1: same way. I think the head coach for the Mavericks. 1017 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: It's the same way. Yeah, I think he's the same way. 1018 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, we're here to win now if you're not 1019 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: a core guy, you know, I'm not explaining that, and 1020 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: you just be ready to play when he's your opportunity. 1021 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: I've heard in some cases though, players don't find out 1022 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 1: really what they're doing till they get out here. Like 1023 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 1: it might have been Byron Jones. They said, okay, Byron, 1024 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: you go play with the safeties, and he's like, I 1025 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: guess I'm a safety, you know? Yeah? Yeah, here you 1026 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: line up with the first stringers. Okay, I'm a first 1027 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: stringer now, And that's how they found out was right 1028 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: there on the field right away. Yeah. Yeah. It's not 1029 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: like a normal job where they go, hey, you're not 1030 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna be on fries today instead of Yeah, they 1031 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: don't have reviews every other yeah, goals speaking together. But 1032 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: the only Jeffers is they ain't gonna fire you the 1033 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: regular job. Can I have your note book? Yeah? Speaking 1034 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: of speaking of the MAVs, Uh Seth Curry's gonna be 1035 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 1: out here at practice today, brother of Stephan Curry. So, 1036 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: uh step is which one Seth is the older one 1037 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: or younger one? Which one w step gonna be? Step 1038 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: out of here? Seth Seth? Okay the one the one 1039 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 1: that played for the Maverick. Yeah, he's gonna be out here, 1040 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: so that's right, that's right. So another thing, we got 1041 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,919 Speaker 1: a lot of servicemen and women out here today, Military appreciation. Yeah, 1042 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 1: you got a lot of servicemen and women out here, 1043 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: so yea, you know they're gonna be banging and you know, 1044 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 1: shout out to shout out to all the service people. 1045 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: And we're dedicating this this show to the moms and 1046 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: the service. All right, one thing I want to ask 1047 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: you guys before we got to get out of here 1048 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Still got a little bit of 1049 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: time though we didn't talk about Cooper Rush the other day. Yeah, 1050 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring that up, and we ran 1051 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: out of time. Does he have a chance to make 1052 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: this team? And if he does, is it a practice squad? Guy? 1053 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: Can he can he slide into? You know, I think 1054 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: practice squad. I think he's shown enough to at least 1055 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 1: warn a little bit more. And now the question is 1056 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: you already got a young quarterback, so do you keep 1057 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: a young one? But I know I'd like to have 1058 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,239 Speaker 1: that commodity in hunt on hand. Like you know, for 1059 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: years the Packers head Rogers waiting in the wings. And 1060 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: you've seen the Patriots pick up a young guy and 1061 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: then trade him down the road. So I think if 1062 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: he can play, you put him on the practice squad 1063 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 1: and develop him some more and whether he helps you 1064 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: or you get something in trump return maybe that you know, 1065 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,240 Speaker 1: down the road or hill. So what's the other option 1066 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: besides Cooper Rush? Who what's the option besides Cooper? We got? 1067 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 1: You're killing more quarterback? Yeah, you said it's a third quarterback. 1068 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: Who's other options? Well, you don't carry one, I get, 1069 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So all I need to know is 1070 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: do you keep him on practice squad? Are you talking 1071 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: about keeping the third quarterback? Acting? I think practice squad? Okay, okay, 1072 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: that's it's already see that ain't any I mean, I'm 1073 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,720 Speaker 1: thinking we may have gonna keep three quarterbacks for a change. Okay, 1074 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: Well that was you were talking about reps a minute 1075 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,760 Speaker 1: ago and all that. It was funny watching practice yesterday. 1076 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: You know there's Cooper Rush and that whole third or 1077 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: fourth strings out the They getting what like three reps pop, 1078 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: left guard jumps off sides and plays done. Whistle blows you. 1079 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 1: That's good, And I'm like, damn, that's hardcore. That poor 1080 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: guy's been standing on that side. Old time dude jumps 1081 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: off side and they're over. Doesn't even get you know, 1082 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: you know how you know how to set up Manfield 1083 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: and they and every day you get out, we got 1084 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: two minute, got third a second. Hey there's swains. Yeah, 1085 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: what's up? Says We gave y'all shout out on the 1086 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: show today. Yeah, oh yeah, it's so great. A couple 1087 00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: of days later, yeah, so wow. What what are you guys, Kurt? 1088 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: You don't counting out here, Nate? What are you? What 1089 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: are you most looking forward to? Getting back home? A man? 1090 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: Just getting back home at home is what the heart 1091 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: is man. And uh, you know my wife is in England, 1092 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: London somewhere, you know, tally Hole one and all of 1093 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: this is that, oh man, for you, I'm just going home, chill, 1094 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: going on, getting my own bid. Man. You know, the 1095 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: stars changed a little bit. Some restaurants open, now, that's 1096 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 1: what I heard. I heard they got, uh, Raising Canes 1097 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: is open, Connie Rosa is gonna be open. Wonderful, it's open. 1098 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: Neighborhood services open. Yes, they're supposed to be Morris So 1099 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,399 Speaker 1: we've got some dining options when we get right. Yeah, 1100 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: so the only thing you gotta look forward to is parking. 1101 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to park down the street and Uber 1102 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: to work. What's gonna happen? Man, that's not gonna be fun. 1103 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, practice will be open to the public. Um. 1104 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: I think they made what ten thousand tickets available for 1105 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: each practice least, And they're going to practice in Forward Center, right, 1106 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: so they won't be out in the heat. Um. And 1107 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: it's the first time they've practiced. Hate that, Gray, I 1108 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: have show hated an animal grass. I hate that brother injuries. Yeah, 1109 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: I hate I hate turf, you know. I hate turf 1110 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: for the kids, man for the guys and spent an 1111 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: older guys. Yeah. For those of you that don't know, 1112 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: there's so there's the indoor facility in Forward Center. That's 1113 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: if if it's inclement weather or usually what they do 1114 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: is they'll practice outside. There's a turf field and a 1115 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 1: grass field and they'll practice. They'll do rehab and drills 1116 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: on the turf field, and then they practice on the 1117 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 1: grass field. For the reasons Nate was saying, it's it's 1118 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: easier on your joints and you're less likely to get hurt. 1119 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: And then when they implement the game plan. They usually 1120 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 1: move into the indoor facility, which is Board Center on Thursdays. Um, 1121 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 1: is it Wednesday or Thursday that they move in. Wednesday, Yeah, 1122 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: Wednesdays they move in. So that's where they're gonna have 1123 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: training camp. And they made ten thousand of tickets available 1124 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,560 Speaker 1: to I think there's what nine days, ten days. Yeah, 1125 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,439 Speaker 1: and you've got to you gotta go to can Master 1126 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: and get them in advance. You can't get them if 1127 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: you had to. They're sold out. They sold out. I 1128 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: heard about about forty eight hours after they made them available. 1129 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: So all the employees were wondering where we're gonna park 1130 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,840 Speaker 1: because they were starting to take away our parking places 1131 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,959 Speaker 1: anyway before we had to parking Nates and over where 1132 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: you live at Nate and Wildly Man. But oh, never mind, 1133 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: never mind, that's a drive. Yeah. But see the thing 1134 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: about me, I'm different than most guys. You know, if 1135 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,479 Speaker 1: you can guarantee you I'm gonna have a park way 1136 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: out and I'm gonna have a job come Monday. You 1137 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: walk good, I'm good. Seem I'm out of the top 1138 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: of the line of them. I got a job. You 1139 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm about to owe you nothing. Man, 1140 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, I tell you I know who do have 1141 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: a parking spot? Who that Jones is? Oh right, right 1142 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: right close to the elevator. Yes, sir. They get out 1143 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: of their college down they gave and get on their 1144 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: and get off and it's about eight steps. So they're all, yeah, well, 1145 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I'm a little surprised. We're about three 1146 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: week three and a half weeks into this deal and 1147 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,959 Speaker 1: they haven't pulled the plug on this show yet. So good. 1148 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: So we're doing we're doing something right, doing something right. 1149 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: So we're we're gonna get out of here today. We're 1150 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: gonna try to get uh tiring on tomorrow for a 1151 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 1: little bit and see if we can make him talk. 1152 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 1: He's not a real talkative guy, but we'll try to 1153 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: get him to talk a little bit and uh for 1154 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Shannon Gross, Kurt Daniels from Oxnard. We're from 1155 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,320 Speaker 1: the guy that's in Port Costa Rica. Port. Yeah, Josh Alice, 1156 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: we don't even care about it. We're gonna come back 1157 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 1: at you tomorrow, same time, two thirty pm. Time beer 1158 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: beer join us tomorrow. We'll see you then. Last show 1159 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 1: of Camp