1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: He didn't have a machine to help you move the snow. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: You probably found it a bit tiring. A snow day 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: turned into a work day for Carter Trizzolo. 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: I really wish I was in school right now. 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Trisolo was clearing snow around not just his house, but 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: also doing. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: It for my neighbors, friends, probably people I even don't know. 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world, then, welcome to the No Donks 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Podcast on the Athletic Network of Fine Network. It's Monday, 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: January twenty fourth. I'm j E. Skeets and alongside me, 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: as always, we got Tass Mellis. 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: What's up everybody? What's up Tassy? 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: We got our top shot half boy Trey Kirby. Hey 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: out Ey and finally making the magic happen, super producer JD. Hello, 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: there he is and here we are no Leley today. Unfortunately, 16 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: hopefully have him back in the Classic Factory later this week. 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Shout out to the stream team though joining us live 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: here on a Monday right on YouTube, Take a second, subscribe, like, comment, 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: share that show, email in your NBA questions all week 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: long to No Dunks at the Athletic dot com, and 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: follow us across all the social media platforms. I'm talking Twitter, 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: I'm talking Instagram, I'm talking Facebook. Yeah, Facebook is still around. 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: And TikTok. That's a big one for us. We had 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: a Trey dropping a cool little tip, like a little 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: phone hack for you all out there. 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 4: So that's available. Running low on tips though, Oh is 27 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: that the only one we had? Well, we've got two 28 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: tips up there right now. We've got the legendary keep 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: your music going while recording a video, and of course 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: the groundbreaking say loomos to Siri and I'll turn your 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: phone into a flashlight. 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: What else is there? 33 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 34 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna google it. 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna google iPhone tips just so I can have 36 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: something to start stealing. 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: Tis. These are not my tips. 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 4: I'm just distributing the tips. I'm dishing the tips on 39 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: the of the tips. Right, you want to tip, here's 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 4: a tip? 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: All right? 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: Well that's no dunks on TikTok. Go seek that out. 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 3: All right. 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: Well it's Monday. We do our winners and losers of 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: the NBA weekend. But first we got to do a 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: good ten minutes on the Bills Chiefs game. 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Right, what are these overtime rules coming? 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: Oh? 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 2: You want to change them? 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Everybody wants to change them. You don't give Josh Allen 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: a shot. Come on, that is a ridiculous rule. 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: We got to get better at call in the coin 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: flip chokes when the biggest moment came. 54 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: To flip tails never failed. Come on, yeah, give them 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: a tip. Heads always wins that tails never fails. Line 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: bullpucky right right, that's stunk. But they gave him thirteen 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: seconds and Mahomes was able to march. Maybe they should 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: have shortkicked a little squibble. 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 2: Kick get that ball on the ground. 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: That was wild. That was wid. 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: I mean there was twenty five points scored in the 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: final with less than two minutes of the game. It's 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 2: in seed. 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 2: The whole weekend was pretty entertaining for football. The week 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: before sucked sucked. NFL really bounced back though. 67 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: This weekend. 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: I want a bounce back weekend for the NFL. Here's 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: a tip. Drop the wild cards. 70 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, NFL, we. 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: Don't need seven seats. They ruin it for everybody. When 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: it's all good teams, it's all classic games. 73 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like having a play in tournament. Why would 74 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: you include seven eight? I mean there's just two. That's 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: exactly what's happening. There's too many squads on wild card week, 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: and then when it gets to the divisional games, primo content. 77 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, what do you think about the 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: overtime rules? Honestly, like there is a big uproar to like, 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: come on this, it is a little weird that it's 80 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: decided this way. But then people push back, Hey, just 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: get a stop. The defense gets a stop back to huge. 82 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: Tip right there, literally stop the chase from scoring with 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: thirteen seconds left, and you're going to the conference championship game. 84 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: It is a bummer, though, to see two quarterbacks can 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 4: cletely on fire, but you only get to watch the 86 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: set one of them overtime. People only complain though, because 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 4: it's the playoffs. I heard on the Athletic Football Show. 88 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: Subscribe to The Athletic at the Athletic dot com slash 89 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 4: no Dunks you can listen to this incredible podcast Robert 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 4: Mays and Nate Tye. No ads, great stuff, great content. 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 4: Nate mentioned nobody cares in week twelve, They're like, good, 92 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: let's get this game over with. We can go to 93 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: the next weekend. But in in the in the postseason, 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 4: you want to see you want to. 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: See the best out there. Yeah, those guys out there 96 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: slinging the hog skin, slim the hogs. I've never heard 97 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: it said that way. Do they say that on the podcast? No, no, no, 98 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 2: nobody says it that way. 99 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: I kept dropping, I kept sling dropping, slinging the pig 100 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: skin into the group chats. 101 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: Sounds great, but I don't know. 102 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: Hog is a funny, funny word. Just these guys whipping 103 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 4: out their hog skins, slanging it. 104 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: All over the field. How it's their arms? Okay, well, yeah, 105 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: we'll leave the football talk to the football podcast on 106 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: the Athletic Network. Let's get to the basketball talk. We're 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: actually gonna start with losers on today's show because there 108 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: is a big one that we made the thumbnail and 109 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: we made the title of the podcast, and we got 110 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: to start with Trey. It is Grayson Allen, And you 111 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: know the hard foul on Crusoe and the fallout from. 112 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: That spoiler alert, Well, loser of the weekend is Grayson Allen. 113 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: Come on, lou Her. Everybody saw it. 114 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: Friday night, third quarter, Alex Cruso out on the fast break. 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: He elevates from the left wing, going up for a dunk, 116 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: maybe going up for a layup and Grayson Allen comes 117 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: zooming across the lane, goes up top, meets Caruso near 118 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: the rim, gets him pretty hard with one arm, and 119 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 4: then the second arm comes and kind of throws Caruso 120 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 4: for a dosey dough Crusoe hard fall. This ended up 121 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: being a flagrant too on Grayson Allen. Caruso stayed in 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: the game, ended up playing quite a bit Garden Giannis 123 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: with what turned out to be a broken wrist. The 124 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 4: next day, the found out he's going to be missing 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: six to eight weeks with a broken right wrist, kind 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 4: of similar to what happened to Patrick Williams earlier in 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: the year. News came down from the league that jit 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: that Grayson Allen would be suspended for one game, And honestly, 129 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: my take on this is exactly the same as Alex 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 4: Caruso's kind of bullshit. 131 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: Kind of that's but it's kind of kind of it's 132 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: real bullshit, ID take it to another level. Shit, that's 133 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: just straight bullpucky. It is it is. Unfortunately, what do. 134 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: You think should have been suspended more? 135 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so, Yes, Yes, I think so. You know, 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: when you're coming at a different angle, that's a cross 137 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: body angle because he's you know, running figuratively sort of 138 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: like from the sideline while Crusoe is going up to 139 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: the who you know, if you make contact that he's 140 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: being slung to the ground. No matter what right physics, 141 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: it's like he is going down hard. And then no 142 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: ball play happened whatsoever, especially from one angle. I think 143 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: he was maybe thinking he could get a piece of 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: the ball to give him up a little bit of credit. 145 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: But what ended up happening is all arm, all armed. 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: So you know, if you're coming from that angle, that 147 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: he is getting thrown to the ground and that's going 148 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: to be that's going to be a very violent collision 149 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: with the ground for him. And then he doubled down 150 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: and then three he doubled down with that second arm 151 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: as well. 152 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: The second arm is bad. 153 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: He said, all right, I'll just go for it here 154 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: now and he threw him to the ground. And yeah, 155 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: it's yeah, obviously it looks bad and the injury should 156 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: escalate it a little bit, even though you know, it's 157 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: a hard thing to really assess because the guy played 158 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: the rest of the game. Uh and and then now 159 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: he's out for six to eight weeks, So should that 160 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: factor in should Obviously the reputation of Grayson Allen factor 161 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: in kinda Yeah, I think so. And the and the 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: uproar that happened around the league was because of his reputation. Yeah, 163 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: And people talking about Lebron's hit on Isaiah Stewart only 164 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: got one game. A big difference between all of them 165 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 3: is that there was some remorse with all the rest 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: of these guys. They all said Lebron said immediately like 167 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: when kind of went to Isaiah Stewart and was a 168 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: little bit shocked. Kelly Ubray he tossed who tossed DeAndre 169 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: Hunter to the ground on Sunday which was also a 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: violent collision alone and got back. He got tossed, and 171 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: he showed some remorse. He went up to him. Grayson 172 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: Allen didn't show any remorse, but when he was ejected, 173 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: he smiled. He gave that little grace and Allen's smile 174 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: and people did not like that, and that's understandable. Yes, 175 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: I think he should get more than Lebron's one game. 176 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 3: He should get three. 177 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: I think do you agree with this? 178 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 6: Right? 179 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. 180 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: One game seems in line to me with the way 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: suspensions have gone down, like Jokich has only only got 182 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 4: one game for his hit on Morris, and Morris hasn't 183 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: even come back to play yet. In retrospect, he probably 184 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: should have gotten more than one game, especially considering he 185 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: has a little bit of a track record as well. 186 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: So I think one game makes sense just because one 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: game is kind of what happens in the league right now. 188 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: I know a lot of Bulls fans are saying he 189 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 4: should get six eight weeks to equal Alex Caruso. That's 190 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: also nonsense, But I think the fact that there's any 191 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: suspension at all is the whole point of anything right there. 192 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: The league is trying to send a message saying, hey, 193 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: stop this kind of stuff. Grayson Allen in particular. Also, 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: anybody in the league, if you're hitting up top like that, 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: you might get suspended. We'll see what happens with Kelly 196 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: Ubray because that was almost the exact same hit. 197 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: It's very similar. 198 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: The second arm. The second arm is the major problem 199 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 4: here with the Grayson Allen thing. He kind of swings 200 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: him around and that's when Caruso really loses control of 201 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 4: his body up in the air, and then, like Tessa 202 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: is saying, and the Bulls mentioned afterwards. Nobody checked on 203 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: Caruso afterwards, like Grayson Allen was just standing there and 204 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: seeing what happens. He did have the Grayson Grinn a 205 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: little bit later. I think he I don't know. He 206 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: just seems to be a little bit of a snide 207 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: fellow if you ask me. But nobody likes him, right, 208 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: I'm not even sure Bucks fans like him all that much. 209 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: So that's that is a part of the equation here. 210 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: And you had like Billy Donnovan, I mean, after this 211 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: was like go into town on him. 212 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: Like he's it. 213 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: He could have ended his career. He as a history 214 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: of this. You know, there's some truth to that, especially 215 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to tripping and stuff like that, no doubt. 216 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: And fine, take that into the equation and that he 217 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: said it was really dangerous, and I agree with all 218 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: of that. I think one one game is totally fair. 219 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: I guess you want to call it that. It makes sense. 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: The NBA, they do have a problem with assessing some 221 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: of these plays sometimes like it all it feels sometimes 222 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: a little all over the map. I'm fascinating to see 223 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: what happens with Ubray. My guess is he doesn't get 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: a game because Hunter, you know, is not going to 225 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: be out six to eight weeks. Uber showed remorse and 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: he plays on the ball. I'm sorry he's making like 227 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: I don't think Grayson Allen was going in with the 228 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: intent that I'm going to try and take this guy 229 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 2: over six eight weeks. 230 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Foul. 231 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, but they don't want to remove that from 232 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: the game either. You got to let the defense try 233 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: and prevent the guy. It's just unfortunately the guy falls 234 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: on his wrist sometimes sucks. 235 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: I think Ubra was a little bit more front facing. 236 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: He was a little bit more in front of DeAndre 237 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Hunter's face. This one was a little bit more of 238 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: a perpendicular kind of like coming over coming from this side, 239 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: and you know when you're missing the ball, like Cruso's 240 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: flying into the rim and you know when you're gonna 241 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: miss the ball that, yeah, it's going to be violent, 242 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: a violent impact. And so when he got arm and 243 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: then double down with that second arm, I mean it 244 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: is different in a couple of ways from I think 245 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: the Kelly Uber. 246 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: The second arm swipe is really brutal. Yes, yes, but 247 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: I think getting tossed from the game and then getting 248 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: a game suspension is is. 249 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: Right I get I get that. I get that. It's 250 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 3: just not because I'm a Bulls backer by any means. 251 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: But the six to eight weeks for Crusoe, Yeah, it's 252 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: it's it's obviously extremely bitter and and I think Billy 253 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: Donovan nailed it on the head when he went a 254 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: little nutty after the game, calling it, yeah, an extremely 255 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: dirty play happened to the Bulls earlier this season when 256 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: Patrick Williams also got hit. Billy Donovan was very calm, 257 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: cool and collected after the game. And I don't think 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: it was necessarily because it wasn't Grayson Allen who hit 259 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: Patrick Williams. I think it was just a different type 260 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: of collision where it was a guy coming from the side, 261 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: and so Patrick william the same thing happened. They didn't 262 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: know that he was going to be injured immediately and 263 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: then another risk injury for them which was diagnosed a 264 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: couple of days later. So very similar for Billy Donovan. 265 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: And in this case, yeah, I think a little bit 266 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: of a dirtier hit. That's frankly it Yes, So I 267 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: agree with Trey. It's like, yeah, yeah, implemented a game 268 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: and that's probably enough by league standards. Leek just doesn't 269 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: give huge suspensions. And the Jokich one, I mean that 270 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: one was different because it was precipitated by Morris hitting 271 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: him first, and so that was a little bit different. Yeah, 272 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 3: one game. It's just they don't give a lot of big, 273 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: big suspensions in the NBA anymore. 274 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: But you brought up the ubre one on Hunter. There 275 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: was another one even this weekend. It was Tayling horton Tucker. 276 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: You know, a hard foul if we can definitely call 277 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: it that on Jillen Suggs and Lebron Like there was 278 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: a tiny little push in the air, he goes down hard. 279 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: You know, he's okay, he's going to continue playing. He's 280 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: not going to miss this six to eight weeks. But 281 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: this is what it does because it's difficult, I think 282 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: in terms of like, well, why is that one worth 283 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: a game or why is that one worth a flanger two? 284 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: And this one's not. I mean, there generally plays on 285 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: the ball and they and these guys are obviously super 286 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: athletic and things go wrong in the air. But I 287 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: one hundred percent agree with the second follow through and 288 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: the fact that it's Grayson Allen and we've seen clips 289 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: already from like what a month and a half ago 290 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: where he sort of tried the old little trip on. 291 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: I think it was Derrek Rose going by him, didn't 292 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: get him. We know he's done this before in college, 293 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: so that is taken into consideration. And I think the 294 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 2: league did here a little bit with the one game under. 295 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: They did, and definitely they are considering the injury afterwards 296 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 4: as well for Caruso and how long it's going to 297 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: keep him out. 298 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, It's just it's just a it sucks. 299 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say about it, Like, 300 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 4: don't hit a guy when they're jumping in the air. 301 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 4: It goes for every single basketball player out there. 302 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: Right, But okay, but I just pushed back on that, 303 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: So what don't ever jump if the other guys jumping, like, 304 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: don't try and block them? Or do you think, right 305 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: Allen is going to block a Caruso dunk from the high. 306 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: No. 307 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to defend Grayson Allen. I don't want 308 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: this to turn into a Stockton Lillard thing here, So 309 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: I hear you. But the defense is trying to prevent 310 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: a basket, is what's happening in all of these these 311 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: guys are just trying. There's ways to do it, stop 312 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: it that don't injure players, and it happens in almost 313 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: every game. 314 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: Grayson Allen just wasn't. 315 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm convinced you can't play it. You can't play professional 316 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: sports and nobody gets never gets injured. 317 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: Sure, Okay, that's not what we're saying. Well, I'm jeff 318 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: Van Gundy was calling it a dirty hit. 319 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he just wasn't in the front. 320 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: It's always gonna happen. It's never not going to be 321 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: taken out. Whether they gave him a ten game suspension 322 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: or a twenty gamespension. 323 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: It's just not Yeah. I think Kelly Youubray may have 324 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: been going back to the Hornets Hawks one if you 325 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: didn't see it. DeAndre Hunter goes up for a big 326 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: jam and Kelly Ubray maybe could have got a piece 327 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: of the ball if he was up higher. And maybe 328 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: because DeAndre Hunter hasn't played much in his first two years, 329 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: Kelly Youubray didn't know that DeAndre Hunter could jump that 330 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: high and he got all foe arm and he went down. 331 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: In this instance, I don't think there was a chance 332 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: that Grayson Allen was going to touch the ball. Really, 333 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 3: especially because of the angle again, because he's coming from 334 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: the side. It's a flyby, it's a coming from the sideline, 335 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: like you can put your hands up and then that's it. 336 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: I mean, when you get arm and then you go 337 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: in for a second arm, it's horrible, really. I mean 338 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: it's like the first arm should have got a game, 339 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: and then that second arm should have got two games 340 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: as well. 341 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: Should they have also gotten a game for their tweet. 342 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 6: The following day with Grayson Allen the guts, the guts 343 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 6: that the Bucks have to come out and put Grayson 344 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 6: Allen on the promo for the game on Saturday night 345 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 6: that obviously the night after. 346 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they pulled it down. Yeah, it took 347 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: him a while to pull it down. But Grayson Allen, yeah, 348 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: you know in the promo shot rolling the ball around 349 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: with a tiny bit of a smirk. He's always smirking. 350 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: And then they pulled it down and he didn't play 351 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: that night because of a hip injury and then the 352 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: suspension which is going to be served on Wednesday night. Yeah, 353 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: I did not like that. 354 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: But if you're a Bulls fan, this is this is. 355 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: What I think you should take from it. Tomart De 356 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Rosen said, you learn a lot when you hit adversity 357 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: with people. We had some adversity last couple weeks. We're 358 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: dealing with injuries, losses here and there, but it seems 359 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: like it just continues to bring us closer and closer, 360 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: and we want to compete for one another. So this 361 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: is rough. It's rough two months without Caruso and Lonzo ball, 362 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: but an embarrassment of riches at the guard spot. Now 363 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: you got DeMar No Levine's coming back. Two of them 364 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: are hurting, two of them are hurting. Being coming back, yeah, 365 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: be like, well coming back early. 366 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 4: Like He's like, I gotta go fly to Oklahoma City 367 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: so we don't lose to the thunder. That was a 368 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: little worrying to me. Honestly, I'm scared for the Bulls 369 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: right now. The defense is going to slide. Bouch got 370 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: destroyed yesterday against the Mad against the Magic, it was 371 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: boiled Vouch. 372 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: No doubt. 373 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 4: The guy needs to be good on offense because he's 374 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: giving you absolutely nothing on defense. And it was what 375 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: four for nineteen. He led the game in turnovers. He 376 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 4: got mad at one point, which is like exciting to 377 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: see Bouvich showing a little bit of emotion out there, 378 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: but there's no point of attack defense for the Bulls, 379 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: so it's like, hey, here's a runway to go at Vouch. 380 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: He doesn't challenge shots at the rim and he can't 381 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: move his feet. Other than that, he's great defensively. He 382 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: can get a rebound maybe, but it's gonna be bad 383 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: news until these guards come back and Levine will help, 384 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: Javonte Green will help. They force turnovers. But the reason 385 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: the balls were any good on defense was because they 386 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: had two guards who were huge who could pressure the 387 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: ball great point, great great point. 388 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: And Wendell Carter. If this was a bigger name, maybe 389 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: it would be making more of a story. But Wendell 390 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 3: Carter traded from the Bulls to the Magic for Vouch. 391 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: Was given it to Vouch last night, right right, Yeah, 392 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: Vouch was just back pedaling and backpedaling and retreating and 393 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: retreating and retreating to Wendell Carter and his goggles. He 394 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: just was not putting that body to good use. That 395 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 3: was strange. 396 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: Well, let's hear from everybody out there in the stream 397 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: team and maybe listening to the podcast or watching the 398 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: show a little bit later. You can drop your thoughts 399 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: in the YouTube comments. When it comes to the Grayson 400 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: Allen hit, you agree with some of these guys. 401 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: You gotta be three. 402 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: You think he deserves more than the one game suspension. 403 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: You think the league got it right. You know, how 404 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: do you prevent this from ever happening? Is that even possible? 405 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 2: Let's hear from you all. Let's keep it going task. 406 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Who else you have on the loser of the NBA 407 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: weekend list? 408 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: I got the Portland Trail Blazers, which is a weird one. Yeah, 409 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: they won two games this weekend. How are they lose? 410 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: You're talking about? 411 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: What are you're reaching for? I think they're caught in 412 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: the middle. I don't think they know which direction they 413 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: should go at the altar at the trade deadline. Is 414 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: it blow it up? Or is it trying to win 415 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: basketball games? Especially because who knows when their best player 416 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: comes back. Damian Lillard just had surgery on his abdomen 417 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: and he is gonna take his time. He's looking out 418 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: for number one here and it could be a long 419 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: time before he comes back. In at Q and A 420 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: this weekend, he said, it's bothered me forever. It's bothered 421 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 3: me since twenty fifteen, And I could have had it 422 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: in the offseason actually, and Blazers fans might be a 423 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: little angry with this, but he said, he said, quote, 424 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: I had money down on my wedding and my honeymoon. 425 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: Sounds like one of us. I didn't want to lose 426 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: my deposit. So but listen, he's looking out for himself 427 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: and that's the fine. After the Olympics this summer, he 428 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: went on the honeymoon and the wedding, and then he 429 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: came and played this year and he just wasn't right, 430 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: and so he's had surgery. He's going to be evaluated 431 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: in like five to seven weeks, so he could come 432 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: back in March, and if getting back to football. Another 433 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: guy had I don't even know his name, the Packers 434 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: wide out Cobb. I think his last name Randall Cobb. 435 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: He had the same abdomen surgery. Came back in like 436 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: six weeks. But Damian Lillard said he's hurting. He knows, 437 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: he knows. He's been talking to say his people, so 438 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: I know Day might be coming back in March or 439 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: something like that. In the Blazers again talking about football, 440 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: they could be in this play in term eight, nine 441 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 3: to ten, but he said, I'm not coming back to 442 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: play for a draft pick, and so he doesn't want 443 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: to tank, and so the Blazer's front office must be 444 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: sitting there thinking, what do we do. Do we tread 445 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: water here with this team, bring back the same team 446 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: mostly with Damian Lillard next year, who's going to be 447 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 3: thirty two years of age next year, along with CJ mccoum, 448 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: or do we capitalize on what we got right now? 449 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: Maybe there's some hope here with what Anthony Simons is 450 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: doing and trade McCollum and or Lillard. I think I 451 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: would love to see yes. Yes. And this is a 452 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: front office that is an entirely new front office because 453 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: Neil o'sha was just fired. So this is just that 454 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 3: tough tough spot for them. I don't think they know 455 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: they know which way to go. I think they want 456 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: to pease Damian Lillard. And that's the other part. You 457 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: kind of want to keep your stars. You don't want 458 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: to get younger. Dame said, I'm not playing for a 459 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: draft pick. I'm doing this right now. I'm getting better 460 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: right now so I can have four to five great years. 461 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: So that, combined with his kind of trade request in 462 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 3: the off season, just makes me believe that maybe this 463 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: is going to be a parting of ways, and maybe 464 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: the Blazers would be smart to just cut it right now. 465 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: It's hard to rebuild after having a really good team, 466 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: but the way you do it is trade some guys 467 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: and trade your best players. And I think this might 468 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: be the time and for all us English word nerds, 469 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Simmons and Simons would be great. Get Ben Simmons with 470 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: Afredy Simons, Simmons Simons backcourt. I love the language there. 471 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: There's a grammarly ad coming later in the show. Simmons 472 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: and Simons right there, right here, right now, do it? 473 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: I think. I think him and Anthony Simons obviously works 474 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: really well together. It's like people are asking for Trey 475 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: Young and Ben Simmons together the offense and defense. I 476 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: think they just have to cut bait at some point. 477 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 3: The McCollum lilerd thing is done, and it's just it's 478 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: a tough spot. I think they're gonna hold on these 479 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: next two and a half weeks to what they got going, 480 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: which is two wins in a row, which is a 481 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: ten seeded team in the West, and ain't that good? 482 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: And it's it doesn't bode well for Dame's future. I 483 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think he's gonna be extremely happy 484 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 3: coming back with the same team. I think eventually they're 485 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 3: gonna have to trade somebody, somebody from that backcourt. 486 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: What do you think, Tessa saying them winning two games 487 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: this weekend has actually made them losers because they're in 488 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: this weird spot where like, what the hell do you 489 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: actually do? And you know you're if you if you 490 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: had thought of tanking, you're doing a poor job of it. 491 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: But what do you think? 492 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 4: I don't think six games, six wins in eight games 493 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: would be enough for me to abandon whatever plans I have, 494 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: whether that be try and go for the play in tournament, 495 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: which they might do accidentally as well, or if you know, 496 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: if the Simmons trade comes down, and they would do 497 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: to decide they want mccoum and Nurkic, like that's fine, 498 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: go for it. You know, Anthony Simons has been balling 499 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: in January twenty five points per game. Now is probably 500 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 4: the perfect time to trade him. His value will likely 501 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: never be higher right now. He's a young guy you 502 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 4: could throw into a trade with McCollum, who has a 503 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 4: way bigger contract, a little further in in his career. Now, 504 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 4: if you're the Sixers or you're like, whoa, there's two 505 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: decent guards that could be handling the ball for me. 506 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: Maybe that's interesting, but I don't know. It kind of 507 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 4: feels like nobody wants the tenth seed in the Western Conference, 508 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: so somebody's gonna have to get it. Maybe the Blazers 509 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 4: trade all their guys and still keep winning these games 510 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: and figure out a way to get in there. Get 511 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 4: that play and money. Get one game of Damian Lillard. 512 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: Who knows what happens in a one game series. He 513 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: hits enough, suddenly you're in the playoffs making more money. 514 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: But I don't think that Lillard is going to be traded, 515 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 4: but everybody else should still be on the block. 516 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Washington Wizards for a 517 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: loser of the weekend. They lost two home games over 518 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: the last couple of days to teams they're battling in 519 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: the standings. On Friday, the Raptors hung on after they 520 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: blew a huge eighteen point lead, but they held on 521 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: to get the victory one O nine, one O five. 522 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: And then on Sunday, Jason Tatum and I know we'll 523 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: get to him when we get to our winners. He 524 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 2: scored fifty one to help the Celtics just crush Washington one, 525 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: sixteen to eighty seven. Remember when the Wizards were ten 526 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: and three. I remember, man, we were very excited and 527 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: there they're the depth of that team was like proving 528 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: to get them a lot of victories and stuff like that. 529 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: And that was with Bille, you know, not playing well 530 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: to start with, and he sort of continued to struggle 531 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: a little bit. But they're thirteen and twenty one since 532 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: and you know, you talk about the Blazers being sort 533 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: of like, what are we doing here? Are we? Are 534 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: we running this back? 535 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 3: Or are we not? 536 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 2: Do we look to move like a Lillard or at 537 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: least McCollum. I think the Wizards are in the same 538 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: boat here with Bradley Beal, and at least this season 539 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: he's sure out looking like a super Max type of guy, 540 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: like a one A get on my back and I 541 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: can win this playoffs here. I'm sorry, he just I 542 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: just don't think he's gonna be that. He's gonna be 543 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: the ultimate second secondary sort of guy, or the second 544 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 2: guy to a good player. And now they're like here 545 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: they are they got hat Cha Mura back, Hocha Murray back, 546 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 2: Thomas Bryant is back. Now you have like a ton 547 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: of guys and they're trying to figure out minutes. Some 548 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: of them are on minutes restrictions here still. But it's 549 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: just a weird team. And the defense sucks. Again. Three 550 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: point shooting is non existent. Remember they signed that guy 551 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Bertons to either a three point shooter. Remember he doesn't play, 552 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: and when he plays, he can't hit a shot. It's 553 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: a bad contract. I think he's like a sixteen to 554 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: seventeen million dollar per year player. So I don't know 555 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: what the Wizards do here. And like there's some talk 556 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: even from Wizards fans like who do we trade Bill? 557 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: Do you do you like really seriously look to move 558 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: him and get like a nice haul back and you 559 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: have some talent on the roster and go from there. 560 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: I think you absolutely look at it. I don't. I 561 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: don't think Bial is long for Washington. I know he 562 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 3: keeps trying to make it work, and he is, and 563 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: he's talked about being a one team guy, but he 564 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: never signed a long extension. He signed a one year 565 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: extension to see what the front office would do and 566 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 3: and they've tried. They turned Russell Westbrook into a huge 567 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: glut of players. But but I see the comparison between 568 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: bial and Lillard. They've essentially gave it all they could 569 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 3: in the city that they're in. They're probably in their 570 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: mind looking at a second phase of their career where 571 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: it ain't in that city anymore. And so I see 572 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 3: both teams potentially moving on, especially when they're at home, 573 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 3: and Jason Tatum as a road guy, a fellow Saint 574 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: Louis guy going up against Bill and the Wizards, is 575 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: getting MVP chance in Washington. I I used to hate 576 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 3: watching games in the phone booth, watching the Wizards games 577 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: at home. Then I kind of liked it. Earlier this 578 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: season it was buzzy for the Wizards, but it's kind 579 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: of gone back the other way where the road team, weird, 580 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: is getting more love than the home. 581 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: Team, the Wizards. Man, I don't know it was. 582 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 4: I loved watching Jason Tatum just destroy the Wizards yesterday, 583 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: Like I'm very excited to talk about it. At one point, 584 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: Scalabrini says, it's like he's practicing out there, and that's 585 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: what it's like. It was like, Okay, here's what we 586 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: need to do to get a wide open shot, run 587 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 4: a pick and roll. I'll get Montrez Harrell on me. 588 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 4: I'll either go to the hoop no problem, or just 589 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 4: step back and hit a three right in your face. 590 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: And it was just time and time again. The Wizards 591 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: have a lot of guys, and now at this point 592 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: they're just playing too many of them, Like, you don't 593 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: need to play Burtons. He could just sit down. I 594 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: know you're paying them a lot of money. Sit him down, 595 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: sit down Neta, Like, who cares? You don't need to 596 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 4: play three centers if they're all not that good. The Wizards, 597 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 4: they've got a peak of the seventh seed and that's 598 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 4: kind of been the entire tea of Beale's career. So 599 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: I don't know he's got a player option for next year. 600 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 4: I assume that he will take that wherever he ends up. 601 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 4: But if I'm the Wizards, I wouldn't be against trading him, 602 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: even if he wants to stay around, because him and 603 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: I think Lillard as well, they want to stay around 604 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: until they get their super duper max. Yeah, and then 605 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: they'll say, you know now that I'm making forty eight 606 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 4: mil a year, trade trade me somewhere. I think they're 607 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: sticking around to get those hometown bucks, no doubt about it. 608 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: So if you want to be smart about it, it's 609 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 4: impossible to do to say we're throwing our team away, 610 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 4: We're throwing this era of our franchise away. 611 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: Might be the smart morok. Yeah, Untild played eleven guys 612 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: in the first half in Sunday Scheme and it was 613 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: Burtion's wasn't even one of them, which is the crazy part. 614 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: So it's Beale, Gafford, Dinwitty, KCP and Kuzma starting and 615 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: then now because these guys are coming back, Thomas Bryant, 616 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: Ruey Mantras, Harrel Avdia, Corey Kispert and then Netto has 617 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: a lot of guys and like a lot of these 618 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: are solid, solid players, but they are really they're struggling 619 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 2: to figure out who the heck's gonna get these minutes. 620 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, is it a case of almost 621 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,479 Speaker 2: like too many guys there. I think they should move 622 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: off beel here and I think a lot of people 623 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: thought they should have done it, probably prior. But you know, 624 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 2: it's it's also difficult for these organizations when the guy 625 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: says I do want to be here. M You know, 626 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: you are not a free agent destination, and you have 627 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 2: a star player and all NBA guy, he's not playing 628 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: all that great this year. But that's tough to then say, oh, well, 629 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: he wants to be here, but see you later. It's 630 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 2: for the best of our organization to capitalize and get 631 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: like a nice haulback. But I really think they should 632 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 2: just another loser of the weekend here and then we'll 633 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: take our first break and get to the winners. I 634 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: just wanted to get your take. I'm throwing it into 635 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: the loser's bracket here. But the Lakers split their Florida 636 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: games over the weekend. They beat Orlando, but they lost 637 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 2: to Miami. But according to mark Stein, the Lakers recently 638 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: offered a twenty twenty seven first round pick and Taylor 639 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: Horton Tucker and Kendrick Nunn as a package to the 640 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: Pistons for Jeremy Grant, and so far the Pistons have said, 641 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: come on, that's that's not good enough. That's there's no 642 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: way we're going to be doing that. We're holding out 643 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: probably for better players. Just what's your take on this, 644 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: you know, trade roomer from the reputable Mark Stein Killin Horton, 645 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: Tucker none and then a Huture first round pick. 646 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, way down the road, right, because the Lakers don't 647 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: have a lot of picks for I think the Pistons 648 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: are doing the right thing, just waiting for a more 649 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: established piece or a more established pick, something that's a 650 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: little bit higher in the draft than what the Lakers 651 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: would be offering, and not a billion years down the road. 652 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: And they have four first round picks that they're trying 653 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: to work out on the floor right now in Cade 654 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: and Bay and Isaiah Stewart and the lefty point guard 655 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: who I always he's the forgettable one of the four, 656 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: and that's why I always forget. So why would they 657 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: make that trade our James Edward at the Athletic has 658 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 3: said that the trade offers are not coming in, you know, 659 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: all that swiftly for her for Grant, they're just not 660 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: coming in right now, and so that's a bad side, 661 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: I guess. So maybe they're going to have to settle 662 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 3: for a deal like that because I think they Grant 663 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: and the Pistons have come to an agreement. It's probably 664 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 3: time for me to move on, and he would help, 665 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: He would help a team. So the Lakers would be 666 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: obviously would be very ecstatic to get him. 667 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: For that for that deal. Well, this is like all 668 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: they can offer. This is the hilarious part. There's really 669 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: nothing else they can offer to team yeah, outside of 670 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: a super future around first round pick in twenty twenty 671 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: seven and then thht and then none. So if if 672 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: the Pistons are saying that's not enough for Grant, you know, 673 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: is there something like do they try to go to 674 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: the Kings and get that for Harrison Barnes? Do they 675 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: go do they maybe like even take it down a 676 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: little bit more and offer something for Robert Covington to 677 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: the Blazers right like they need they need some wing help. 678 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: This makes sense trying to get a Grant type guy. 679 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: But if that's not going to be enough and they 680 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: don't have any more to add, really. 681 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: I guess that's why this is out there, right, the 682 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: Pistons are saying, here's the offer, here's the baseline, pretty easy. 683 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: To be right, rest of the NBA can put something 684 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: we can do a little bit better than this. 685 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: A guy and Kendrick Nunn who hasn't played at all 686 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: this season, and a pick that's five years down the 687 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: room that being said, lakers twenty seven first round pick 688 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: might be looking pretty nice. 689 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: That's true. 690 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lakers are going to look. 691 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: Like in five seasons. 692 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: I mean, more than likely they will have replenished their 693 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: various superstars and maybe Anthony Davis is healthy at that point. 694 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: I don't think Russell Westbrook will probably be a Laker 695 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 4: at that point. 696 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: Who knows if Lebron will Bronni Junior. 697 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: Who knows that Bronni Junior will I'm just saying, twenty 698 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: twenty seven first round pick for the Lakers, after they've 699 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 4: traded all of their other picks and all of this stuff, 700 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 4: and they've got a massive payroll. 701 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: That could be an Otis Thorpe. 702 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, suddenly you're picking number two and you never 703 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 4: expected to, So I wouldn't totally sneeze at that. That 704 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: being said, somebody should be able to beat this offer 705 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: from the Lakers. 706 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: Thht. 707 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: He's more of a flashes kind of guy right now. 708 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be great in the future, but right now 709 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: we're just kind of waiting to see it consistently. And 710 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 4: if he were as good as Jeremy Grant, the Lakers 711 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: wouldn't be trying to trade him. But personally, I would 712 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: like to trade for a Lakers swear jar. I kind 713 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 4: of think we need to bring it back. 714 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: This team is stupid. Did you see some of the 715 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: defunds they were playing against Jimmy Paul. 716 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 4: He would just get the ball in an inbound and 717 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: just go to the hoop and mellows like, hey, come 718 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 4: on in, my friend. 719 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: It was disgusting that loss against the Heat. Yeah, that's 720 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: why it's again, that's all they can really offer in deals, 721 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: and and they're not helped out that THHD is having 722 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: a brutal year. I mean, he's only twenty one, so 723 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: there's still hope that he turned into a much better 724 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: player and the flashes that we saw before, but he's 725 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: been garbage this year. 726 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: And Anthony Davis looks like he will be back very 727 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: very soon. Yeah, yeah, he's working help for a game. Yeah, 728 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: he should help them a lot. And I don't really 729 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 3: want to see that shirt on the sideline anymore. See 730 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: the shirt he was wearing yesterday. 731 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: No Anthony Davis shirt. 732 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even know how to describe it. I 733 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: mean vertical stripes, not stripes. It's a vertical pattern like 734 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: a like they're sort of like the key like the 735 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 3: Greek key, if you know what I mean, in vertical 736 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: stripe form with various colors. It's just anyway trying. 737 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 2: To find a pick sure of his shirt. 738 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes good, sometimes bad with AD's wardrobe, but 739 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 3: not a good one in anyway. 740 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: Well, let's take our first break when we come back. 741 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: We're going to get two winners of the NBA Weekend. 742 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 3: Well done, guys, there you go, Thanks for chipping in there. 743 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 2: There'll be more later, but you got to pay the 744 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: bills somehow. More ads to come. Let's get to winners 745 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: of the NBA Weekend. Let's do that because we, uh, 746 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: you know, did this backwards this time. We started with 747 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: the losers today. But let's get to the winners tasks. 748 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 2: I sort of teed you up there, I guess when 749 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: I was talking about the Wizard's loss. Jason Tatum hot. 750 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: He's hot, and he's going to be an All Star 751 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: this season. Lock it in and I'm not. Isn't it 752 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 3: just recency buys? Well, a couple of weeks ago we 753 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: wondered if he would be in and I have a 754 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: problem putting him in there just because of the season 755 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: he's having. He's not having a season that is is 756 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: worthy of him. He's just having a bad year in 757 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: terms of shooting the ball, but he had fifty one 758 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: on Sunday and he's doing it at the right time. 759 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: So fifty one ten board seven assists, a career high 760 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 3: nine threes after a bad previous six or nine threes 761 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: is more than he had in the last six combined. 762 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: He's had five to fifty point games in the last 763 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: calendar year. Thanks for that stat, Jared Advice, which leads 764 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 3: all NBA players and on the road, as we said 765 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: in Washington, he was getting MVP chance and the reason 766 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: why I think he is going to be an All 767 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 3: Star despite underperforming by his standards. The Celtics are five 768 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 3: hundred and they're eighth in the East. So how how 769 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: do coaches decide this guy who's eighth in the East 770 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: deserves a spot over let's say a Fred van Vliet 771 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: or a Lamello Ball or there's sort of a glut 772 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 3: of guys as well as a glut of teams. 773 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: He's helped out that he's a forwarded for being honest. 774 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: That's true. 775 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: A lot of these guys that are like the fringe 776 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: guys are like, we're going to be one of the 777 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: last two picks, like you said, like a VanVleet or 778 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: you know, Garland's looking better. 779 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: And better as chances are. Yeah, that's a good point. 780 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 2: I think Tatum's helped out by being a forward. 781 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: But that's a good point. It's it's a it's a 782 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 3: jumbled standings mess in the Eastern Conference. So right now 783 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 3: everybody sort of together, and what are coaches going to do. 784 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 3: I think coaches are going to look at guys who've 785 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 3: been there before, so he'll probably get a spot over 786 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: some of these guys who are trying to get there 787 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: for the first time. Gaudy stats of course, and guys 788 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: that they really have to game plan for a game 789 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: in and game out. So I think that bodes well for 790 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 3: the Celtics. Also, if you look back to last year, 791 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 3: and I look back at the dates at this really 792 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 3: weird twenty twenty twenty one season, and when the coaches 793 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 3: made their picks, the Celtics were about five hundred as well. 794 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 3: They put in both Jays Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. 795 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: Now they were highing the standings because a five hundred 796 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 3: team last year got you like fourth when they made 797 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: their selections this year, they're down to eighth because it 798 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 3: is a wild Eastern Conference, everyone is so close together. 799 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 3: But I think they kind of have to pick Jason Tam. 800 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 3: He's just going to stand out amongst everybody who's sort 801 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 3: of together because he's a young guy that's again got 802 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 3: two All Star spots in consecutive years. So I think 803 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: he'll get there, even not being a great season for him. 804 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: And also Marcus Smart said he loves him, so also 805 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: a winner of the Weekend because Marcus Smart approached him 806 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 3: and said, hey, I love you man, so good for him, 807 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: good for good for the Celtics. Even though they lost 808 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: the Blazers on Friday. 809 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: They blew another big, big lead. 810 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 3: It's what they do. That's a weird team. And uh yeah, no, 811 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: I guess probor of my bias, I'm not picking j 812 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 3: Jason Tam A couple of weeks ago is that everybody 813 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: had some higher standards for this team. You had to 814 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 3: hold him to a higher standards of what they were 815 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 3: last year, which was a five hundred team. A lot 816 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: of guys be missing action, but they have not met 817 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: those But at the same time, Totum is going to 818 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 3: the All Star. 819 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: I do think you're right, especially again, like when you 820 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: think about the reserves at the forward or at least 821 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: the front court positions, like Jimmy Butler, you know he's 822 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: sort of a guard forward, but he he probably will 823 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: get in. I know he missed a good chunk of time, 824 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: but the heater of the number one record in the 825 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: Eastern Conference got count for something. And then you have 826 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: like obviously Randall, who was there last year, has had 827 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: a down, down year. Sibonis, he's getting his numbers, but 828 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: the Pacers obviously are not even one of those teams 829 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 2: that's like in the mix. Siakam has turned it on, 830 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: you know late. I guess over the last month has 831 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: been incredible, but you know the first month wasn't all 832 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: that amazing. I think Tatum would be selected over him. Middleton. 833 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, the Ferris wheel has sort of even stuck 834 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: between you know, the bottom of the top of them. 835 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 2: He was totally fine. I know, he just had like 836 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: a big game over the weekend too, but a little 837 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: bit of a down year for him. I think Tatum 838 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 2: would get in here. I'm just like you go through 839 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 2: all the sort of forwards there, it's like Jared Allen, 840 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident about still being one of the 841 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: Cavaliers bigs to make it along with Carlin, but like 842 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 2: making over Miles Bridges for example. Oh yeah, just I 843 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: mean he is and deservedly so, even in a down 844 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: year for him when he can't shoot all. 845 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 3: Oh but did you know that Miles Bridges is now 846 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 3: the highest left handed score in Charlotte Hornet's history. Yeah, 847 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Collins last name? 848 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 2: Wow? Who did he overtakes Mason? Like, I mean, like 849 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: Kelly trapuco Is. I mean, I don't know, I don't know. 850 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: You're you're the one that. Yeah, come on, Collins, you 851 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 2: could do better. 852 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 4: This guy's ninth in the league in scoring. Jason Tatum, 853 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 4: I think he's a lock. I think he's the first 854 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 4: choice for the Celtics, and man, when he's on fire, 855 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 4: he's really fun to watch. 856 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 2: He can score on anybody. 857 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 4: And like I said earlier, it was it was warm 858 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: ups basically for Jason Tatum. He had forty eight through 859 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 4: three quarters. They just brought him back in the end. 860 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 4: Just go shoot, man, I love it. You know they're 861 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 4: up by twenty three. I think when Tatum returned in 862 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter, just tried to get him a show. 863 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: Every single time. He eventually got it, he made a 864 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 4: free throw like I thinkure on a technical follow. Maybe 865 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: got to fifty one pretty easy, though, would like to 866 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 4: see him do it in three quarters fifty eight. Yeah, 867 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 4: that's awesome when you can do it, when you can 868 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: get a fifty piece before the entire game is over. 869 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 4: But disappointing stuff from the Wizard's great stuff from Tatum, Trey, 870 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,240 Speaker 4: Who do you have for a winner of the NBA weekend? 871 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: My second favorite thing this weekend, after Jason Tatum, was 872 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: Joel Embiid dipping in his duffel. Two more monster games 873 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 4: for Embiid this weekend, forty and a loss to the 874 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 4: Clippers on Friday thirty eight and a win against the 875 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 4: Spurs on Sunday. That's five straight games for Embiid with 876 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 4: thirty or more points. He had twenty five in a 877 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 4: game before that, and then prior to that twenty five 878 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 4: point game, oh, it was the McAdoo streak. Five straight 879 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 4: games with thirty one plus. Who could forget thirty times? 880 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 4: Thirty or more points seventeen times in twenty four games 881 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 4: for Joel Embiid since this start of December, since December first, 882 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: that's kind of when he came back from his COVID shutdown, 883 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 4: he had a little bit of a knee problem. I 884 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: believe back then as well. He's just looked completely fresh. 885 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 4: So maybe they should sit him down for a few 886 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 4: weeks every like it, right like in February, like right 887 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 4: around the All Star break, keep him out for a 888 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 4: little bit if if they're gonna be able to tread 889 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 4: water in the Eastern Conference, because he looks so good 890 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 4: right now. When you watch him, it's like watching every 891 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 4: great nineties center at the same time. When he's pulling 892 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 4: the ball off the rim, going coast to coast for 893 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 4: a dunk, that's shack right there. He also had a 894 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 4: few dunks against the Spurs that were really shack like. 895 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 4: He had the one where he did a chin up 896 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 4: on the rim, and I think he dunked it when 897 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: his head was above the rim. Shack like dunk, that 898 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 4: one with his legs up as well, had the one 899 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 4: with Jock Landale where he kind of jabbed him to 900 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 4: the inside, put a shoulder into him one hand dunk. 901 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 4: A minor shimmy from Joel Embiid. They called it a shimmy. 902 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 4: They put it up on House of highlights. 903 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 2: It's more it's more like a. 904 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 4: Like a shrug, like a flare shrug. Like he didn't 905 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 4: go full on legs shimmy. It was just shoulders moving 906 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 4: back and forth because he's like, this is a close 907 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 4: game against the. 908 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 2: Team we should be destroying, so I gotta keep it cool. 909 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: It's hard to define as shimmy. 910 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. 911 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: It's hard, like when you give it a half in 912 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 3: there before, it's like, what's half a shimmy? 913 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 4: You know what's half a shimmy? No such thing. It's 914 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 4: like being pregnant. You can either shimmy or not jimmy. 915 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 4: That was not a shimmy. The trash talk. That's obviously 916 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 4: shack as well. But he's got the pick and pop 917 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 4: fifteen footer, which I think has become super reliable right now. 918 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 4: That's Patrick Ewing to me. He's got this dribble drive 919 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 4: game off the left wing, Hakeem Elijahwan. He had this 920 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 4: pass against the Spurs where he whipped it around a 921 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 4: couple of defenders around his own left shoulder. That was 922 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: the bonus. And he's hitting these trailer threes like Dirk Novitsky. 923 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 4: I would love to break down all of his moves 924 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 4: in a video, but I want even more. I want 925 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 4: people to send us in even more. Joel Embiid moves 926 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: that remind them of other players from way back when. 927 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 4: So if you see him, drop them in the comments 928 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 4: because he's just you don't think of a player of 929 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 4: a big man having a bag like he does. But 930 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 4: he's got a big old duffel and it's full because 931 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 4: it's been on complete display since he came back earlier 932 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 4: this season. Unfortunately for the Sixers, it's like they only 933 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 4: won one of these two games. Right, He's gonna put 934 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 4: up monster numbers every single night. It's just a matter 935 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 4: of they're getting enough help on the other side as well. 936 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 4: It was a weird weekend for trying to find winners 937 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 4: because there was a lot of like a lot of 938 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 4: teams that felt like had either only played one game 939 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: and you're like okay, or if they played too there 940 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 4: was a lot of like splits. You're like, oh, that's 941 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 4: a nice dominant win, like Embiide's case, and then it 942 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 4: was like, oh, then they lost the other one. It 943 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 4: always becomes a little difficult. 944 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,479 Speaker 2: But not mine. Not mine. Actually, one more thing about 945 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 2: embid I just checked while you were talking there Tray, 946 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: he's up to third in the MVP race quarter of 947 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: Basketball Reference the tracker, yokis number one, pretty clear, number 948 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 2: one actually right now, Jannis too. And then Embiid is 949 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: there and he's been helped out with Kevin Durant not playing, 950 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: Steph Curry struggling. H You get to him in a second, 951 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: so and in him just being dominant, and you know, 952 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: obviously he is. He is sitting down at the table 953 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: and is u oh, he's in command of at least 954 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 2: one of the dishes. 955 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, sure, you make your order, Joelle. Yeah, I'm 956 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 3: sure he would like to order one of his teammates back. 957 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure he'd love to have Ben Simmons back to 958 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: be able to take that February March break, because it's 959 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: a lot to ask for any player to carry a team. 960 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: But also Embiid, who's we know, kind of runs out 961 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: of gas at the end of seasons. It would be 962 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: nice for Ben to have a three week run like 963 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 3: he's had in the past without Embiid. It's also unfortunate, 964 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 3: according to this report from Sam Amak and Seam Sharana 965 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: this morning, that Daryl Morey is willing to sit out 966 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: Ben Simmons for this season because he has hopes that 967 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: he can get James Harden in the off season in 968 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 3: exchange for Ben Simmons. I know we're tired of talking 969 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 3: about the Ben Simmons steel, but get the real swear 970 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 3: jar out. But morey, you know, putting a name on 971 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 3: according to reports that James Harden could be the guy 972 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 3: coming back. That's something that's I don't know if it's 973 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 3: just a report out there to try and instigate some 974 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 3: trade offers from. 975 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 2: Saying, hey, we might We're gonna just wait and trade 976 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: them for James Harden. You may want to increase your offer. 977 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: Seventeen days only seventeen days till this trade deadline. We 978 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: will be waiting here, ready to make a video at 979 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 3: any point. Can't wait. There's going to be a trade 980 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: or two, or three or four. There's gonna be some trades, 981 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 3: even if it's Ben, even if it's not Ben, there's 982 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 3: gonna be a lot. 983 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 2: Of trades, alright, locked, that's what I want to hear. 984 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: One of the teams that did win two games over 985 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 2: the weekend is you know my Winter of the weekend, 986 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: the Warriors two wild wins though really strange wins so 987 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 2: on Friday night, Steph Curry nailed a game winning twenty 988 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 2: footer from the top of the key as time expired 989 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 2: as the clack went to the Zeros as the Warriors 990 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 2: beat the Rockets one oh five to one oh three. Now, 991 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, great shot. Interesting that it was his first 992 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 2: buzzer beater beater of his career, like his first lokoff shot. 993 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 2: Apparently since high school he hadn't done that because he 994 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: never did that in Davidson either, though he has a 995 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 2: bunch of like big shots of course made in like 996 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: the final five seconds like to win games, but first 997 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: one as it as the time expired, So that was 998 00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: pretty crazy. And then Sunday, and I don't know if 999 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: you guys saw this, the Warriors held on despite an 1000 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: eleven point fourth quarter to beat the Jazz, who only 1001 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: scored seventeen of their own in the final period. It 1002 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: was a dog fight, and Bogdanovich had a pretty good 1003 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 2: look at a three to win the game. It sort 1004 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 2: of bounced in and out and then Royce O'Neil tipped 1005 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: it and that thing like sort of somehow didn't drop. 1006 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: So Jazz had two chances to either win or tie 1007 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 2: the game, and Instead, the Warriors escape with both victories 1008 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: and all of this is happening, you know, Curry's game 1009 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: winner and then just pulling out this one out of 1010 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: their ask against the Jazz. With Curry not being able 1011 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 2: to hit a shot. He is thirty five for one 1012 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen from three point range in the month 1013 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 2: of January. That's like twenty nine percent. He sucks now. 1014 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 2: It is insane. Can't shoot. And it brings me to 1015 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: a trivia question because I saw NBA BO, who does 1016 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: the highlights for NBA the top tens, does also NBL 1017 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 2: highlights for Australia. There, Curry has dropped to tenth on 1018 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 2: the NBA's all time leaders in three point field goal percentage. 1019 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: He's dropped all the way down to tenth. So so 1020 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 2: Korver actually now is ahead of him on the all 1021 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: time three percentage shots. So can you guys name the 1022 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: other eight guys on that listen? I think you can. 1023 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 2: I can say this isn't too difficult, Seth, Seth. Curry 1024 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: is third right now, very nice forty four career three 1025 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: point shooter. 1026 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: Is mark price up there? 1027 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 2: Mark price is not that high? 1028 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 3: No, No, Steve Kurky, Steve. 1029 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 2: Kerr number one, forty five point four percent from three 1030 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: may have dropped down this season. How about Duncan Robinson. 1031 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: I believe he has dropped down. He's like thirty eight 1032 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: and a half percent. 1033 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 3: Okay, that's hurt. 1034 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,919 Speaker 2: That hurts in short career, short career. 1035 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,399 Speaker 3: Let's get to more Steves, Steve, let's go big name. 1036 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 3: First is Nash up? 1037 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 2: Nash is just below Curry. He's eleventh. 1038 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 3: Oh what about Novak? 1039 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 2: Steve Novak eighth, forty three career three very nice, Okay, 1040 00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: So Korver's nine. So you guys got a couple more. 1041 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 2: You got two, four, five, six, and seven. And these 1042 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: are I mean, one current player. But we've barely talked 1043 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 2: about this guy. This body healed. No, no, he's just 1044 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: the numbers. And this guy's Joe Joe Harris four. It's 1045 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 2: been hurt, yeah, and uh okay, so now some just 1046 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,839 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's unfortunately I'm asking this trivia question 1047 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: with ob Yella's here just some beautiful shooters of the basketball, 1048 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 2: some beautiful shot one rest in peace. Lee was wearing 1049 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 2: his shirt. 1050 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 4: Draws and Petrovitch yep fifth fifth all time. How about 1051 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 4: I know it's not five star Friday. But how about 1052 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 4: Jason Campono sixth? 1053 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 2: You guys got two more guys. One is on television 1054 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: all the time, and Scott no, no different network, it's 1055 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: usually breaking him le Kim le Legs seventh and you're 1056 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 2: missing second place all time forty four. Jjressent, No, did 1057 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: we pull this guy's card recently in a popping packs? 1058 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 2: I want to say we did. It's not Dale, No, no, 1059 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I can't remember it. Did it come 1060 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: up when you guys were talking to Chris Herring? When 1061 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 2: did he play for them? 1062 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 3: That's a hint. 1063 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 2: Hubert Davis, Hubert Davis there it is, Yeah, picked him. 1064 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 3: We picked Hubert in a popping packs a couple of. 1065 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Weeks there it is there is Okay, So just to 1066 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,240 Speaker 2: give that to you. Steve Kerr first overall three point 1067 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 2: field goal percentage forty five point four percent. Then it's 1068 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 2: Hubert Davis, Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Drazen Petrovitch, Jason Cappono, 1069 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 2: Tim Legler, Steve Novak, Kyle Kover and then Curry dropped 1070 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 2: the tenth. But this is really weird. Yeah, and he 1071 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 2: has been off. You know, he had the game winner, 1072 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: which is ironic that wasn't a three to two, but 1073 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 2: not shooting well like in crunch time, not shooting well 1074 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: at all, like another like what was he one for thirteen? 1075 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 3: I think against the Jazz they're on I blame Clay. 1076 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 3: It's weird. I think it's Clay's fault. I think they 1077 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: haven't They have been trying to work out work in Clay, 1078 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 3: but at all points whenever Clay's on the floor, and 1079 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 3: that's to start games obviously, so it's taking stuff out 1080 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 3: of his flow. You know, it's it's not Clay's fault, 1081 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,439 Speaker 3: but it's Clay's fault. 1082 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 2: While we're talking about top tens, another mini winner of 1083 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: the weekend to Dwight Howard Dwight. He passed Nate Thurman 1084 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 2: for tenth place on the league's all time rebounding list. 1085 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 2: It's like, it's sort of crazy this guy wasn't voted 1086 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 2: to the top seventy five though. It really is. I 1087 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,320 Speaker 2: know we were upset at the time, but it is wild. 1088 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 2: He has five rebounding titles, eight All Star honors, eight 1089 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 2: All NBA selections, five All Defensive nods, three Defensive Player 1090 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: of the Awards, and two block titles. And he's got 1091 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: a chip you know, it came late in his career 1092 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 2: and all that. That's that was crazy. That was crazy 1093 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: bad when I know, like a lot of the attention 1094 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: was on Clay not getting on And sure, I'm bumping 1095 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 2: off some of those old farts for sure, but. 1096 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 4: We're bumping bumping probably Yeah, yeah, Anthony Davis. You bumping 1097 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 4: Anthony Davis for Dwyight. 1098 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: You might be. I think you might be. 1099 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be. Yep, you might be. Yes, you would. 1100 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 3: In terms of his career accomplishment, yeah, I think so, Yeah, 1101 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 3: I think so. And he's got to pass Kevin Garnett. Yeah, probably, Yeah, 1102 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: it's like one hundred and nineties. Maybe maybe, yes, maybe no. 1103 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 3: I just want to see if Kevin Garnett has a 1104 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 3: comment about that about Dwight passing him. Kevin Garnett part 1105 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: of the tweet of the night a little later on, 1106 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: So stay tuned for the adskay, probably want to stay 1107 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: tuned for the ads coming up. It'll be a lot 1108 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: quicker than the ones previously, hopefully, And then tweeted the 1109 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 3: night with Kate g. 1110 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 2: Any other winners you guys wanted to throw in here, 1111 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 2: football or not. 1112 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 4: I'll give a quick winner of the weekend to San 1113 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 4: Francisco forty nine Ers kicker. 1114 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 3: Robbie Gold. 1115 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 2: For eliminating the Packers former bear Dwayne. I haven't heard 1116 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: a text from you yet. Oh you're in lost? 1117 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 3: Stay quiet? Is he? Oh? 1118 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 2: Sure? 1119 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 4: He was happy to send me a picture of a 1120 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,760 Speaker 4: floorboard he tore up that said go pack underneath the carpet. 1121 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 2: But that was Friday. 1122 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 4: Haven't sense, Robbie good as Gold that leg's looking nice 1123 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 4: in the snow? 1124 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, oakes man, watch the flakes, all right, them's the 1125 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 7: steaks that's here for everybody out there. Can't get to 1126 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 7: all of your teams or all of the players, So 1127 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 7: I'm sure we forgot one that you wish we talked about. 1128 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 7: Let us know winners or losers of the NBA weekend 1129 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 7: back with no dunk's here on a Monday. 1130 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,240 Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night. 1131 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 3: Tweet of the night Wow tweet of the Knight centers 1132 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 3: around Kevin Garnett. And if you remember Kevin Garnett, he 1133 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 3: verbally wanted to be an owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves. 1134 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: He put it out there verbally. Now, Glenn Taylor of 1135 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves, when he was putting this thing on 1136 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 3: the market. He said, hey, there is no offer from 1137 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett. It has not happened. So there was a 1138 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 3: bit of a war of war words there and those 1139 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 3: two have never saw idea. The Timberwolves ended up being 1140 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 3: sold to Alex Rodriguez and Mark Laurie, and so those 1141 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 3: two have made a bit of a bit of a 1142 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 3: rumor out here. It's not an announcement quite yet, but 1143 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 3: the tweet and that goes to Jace Frederick, which is 1144 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 3: based on a juicy note from Twin Cities writer Charlie Walters. 1145 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 3: Walters Wrights, there's buzz now that proposed Timberwolves owners Alex 1146 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 3: Rodriguez and Mark Laurie, excuse me want ex Wolves star 1147 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett to join the pair for one hundred million 1148 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,080 Speaker 3: dollar investment and for his player input. If that happens, 1149 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 3: a Garnett statue outside Target Center would be erected, as 1150 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 3: well as retirement of his number twenty one jersey. This 1151 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 3: is a big deal if it does happen, because Minnesota 1152 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 3: and Kevin Garnett are synonymous with one another. But at 1153 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 3: the same time, because Kevin Garnett never saw ie to 1154 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 3: I with Glenn Taylor, there was a huge rift. Garnett 1155 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 3: just wasn't a part of the franchise anymore. So if 1156 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 3: they can bring him back in first, we'll take your 1157 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 3: one hundred mil. That we'll accept that. But he's always 1158 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 3: wanted to be a part of the organization, be a 1159 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 3: part of the ownership, so that could happen. Retirement of 1160 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 3: the jersey, which inexplicably still hasn't happened, will happen, and 1161 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: then a statue as well. Now, again this is a rumor, 1162 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 3: but this is Twin Cities writer Charlie Walters, who knows 1163 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 3: his Minnesota stuff. So I would I would expect something 1164 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 3: like this to happen. I think Alex Rodriguez and Mark 1165 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 3: Laurie have They've got a They've got their fingers on 1166 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 3: the pulse of what fans want, and so I think 1167 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 3: this is something that could happen, and that would be 1168 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 3: great for KG because he wants this to happen so badly, 1169 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 3: so badly. He keeps saying that he wants to buy 1170 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 3: this team, and he would love for this to happen. 1171 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 4: I think, why don't they just do the jersey retirement 1172 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,919 Speaker 4: and the statue first, and then get the hundred million 1173 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 4: from Kevin Garnett say, hey, man, we're making a commitment 1174 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 4: to you. You're the greatest player in franchise history. We 1175 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 4: want everybody to know your name and your jersey is 1176 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 4: up there and your body is outside. Yes, we will 1177 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 4: also accept your one hundred million dollars and you being 1178 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 4: around the franchise, you being welcome, backed in good graces. 1179 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 4: But the order of operations seems a little backwards to me. 1180 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 3: Interesting. I think he may want the hunt. He may 1181 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 3: want to give them one hundred million dollars first, which 1182 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 3: sounds crazy, but I think that may be more important 1183 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 3: to him that he has a stake in this franchise. 1184 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. It's all been rumors for years 1185 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 3: with KG and how that's hasn't panned out very well. 1186 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 3: But he wants it to happen, so yeah, yeah, he 1187 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 3: put it. Yes, he's put it when when it didn't 1188 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 3: happen with Glenn Taylor and ended up going to a 1189 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: Rod and Mark Lori a Rod big Packers fan. This weekend, 1190 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 3: by the way, I was there, he was there with 1191 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 3: a green Bay hat on. It's up with that. 1192 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 4: I bet he's bugs with Aaron Rodgers. I don't know 1193 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 4: for sure, but I would guess I think you're right. 1194 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 4: It seems like they're buddies. 1195 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 3: I think you're accurate and free hat for you and 1196 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 3: the three hundred million dollars coming his way, I think 1197 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 3: think that's gonna happen. 1198 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 2: Didn't the Wolves? Also, I think we talked about it 1199 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 2: on the show, had that recent higher I'm forgetting the 1200 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: name right. 1201 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 3: Now, Touch Sports. 1202 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to like the idea of like to like 1203 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: sort of turn around how other players think of this organization. 1204 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: So this all makes sense that they're like, you know this, 1205 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: these reports and rumors would come on the heels of. 1206 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 3: That Marquise Watts that's coming in there too. Yeah, to 1207 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 3: help build rebuild what people think of the Timberwolves specifically players, Yes, 1208 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 3: for sure. 1209 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: Because I remember in that report it was like they 1210 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 2: get drafted by Minnesota, maybe they play there, then they 1211 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 2: leave and then they go to other teams, Like, Oh, 1212 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,920 Speaker 2: this is how an organization is running. This is what 1213 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 2: we're actually doing out here right right, So yeah, I'd 1214 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 2: love to see all of this happen, for KG to 1215 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,160 Speaker 2: be a part of ownership, and then of course for 1216 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 2: him to have a statue and at the very least 1217 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 2: in Jersey retired. 1218 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 3: We didn't get to see the Charles Barkley statue and 1219 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 3: Leeds Alabama when we were just there at Bucki's. We 1220 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 3: should have stopped by. We did, well, we'll go back. 1221 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,359 Speaker 2: We'll go back for sure. 1222 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 3: It's a BUCkies for sure. Okay. 1223 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,919 Speaker 2: Picking results from Friday night, it was the Heat Hawks game. 1224 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 2: Atlanta was favored by one and a half and they 1225 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 2: won by two. 1226 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 3: The Hawks are back, baby Hawks. 1227 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could have included them as a winner of 1228 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: the note. 1229 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1230 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a little wind streak going here and 1231 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 2: tasks whoh another close one that Task pulls out. You 1232 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 2: were the only one to have Atlanta to cover, and 1233 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 2: of course they just did. You're six and eight, Tray 1234 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: six and eight. Lee falls to five and nine, and 1235 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm I'm leading everybody right now, but I'm only two 1236 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: games up. I'm eeting six, so it's it's anybody's pick 1237 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 2: them to lose. There's enough time in January for me 1238 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,439 Speaker 2: to blow this. I could have a meltdown. I'm sure. 1239 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 3: It seems like a really long month and maybe that's 1240 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 3: why nobody wants to say Happy New Year now. It 1241 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 3: seems like twenty two has been going around, going on 1242 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 3: for a while. 1243 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 2: It's been back for a while. We haven't even hit 1244 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 2: the Royal Rumble yet. 1245 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1246 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,800 Speaker 4: I think it's cause we were back recording on January second. 1247 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it seems early. Sometimes it feels like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1248 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 3: So we've got these between eight and six and five 1249 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 3: and nights. So yes, I agree. Anyone's game tonight's a 1250 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 3: tough one. It's only a four game night in the Association. 1251 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 3: The Calves are at home to the Knicks. And if 1252 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 3: you were to see this line of seven and a 1253 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 3: half point favorites for the Cleveland Cavaliers before the season started, 1254 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 3: you would think that it's crazy that Caves are. 1255 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,440 Speaker 2: Seven and a half point favorites. 1256 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 3: Cleveland's doing it night in and night out. Three of 1257 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 3: us are on those Calves. Skeet's the only one taking 1258 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 3: the Knicks. 1259 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh No, I'm gonna I'm gonna blow this month, aren't I. 1260 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be the actually know what's gonna happen. I'm 1261 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 2: gonna be the Rams. I'm gonna have this big lead, 1262 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it all back, but then I'm gonna 1263 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: somehow pull it out right. Indeed, watch you watch, I'll 1264 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 2: be tired with you guys in a couple of nights 1265 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 2: and then I'll I'll pull it out. But yeah, I'll 1266 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 2: take the next. The line's big. That's a big line. 1267 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 2: Big lines makes the Knicks. They actually play, okay, I 1268 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 2: they get back to back situations. It's one of those 1269 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 2: weird things, you know. Cam Ruddis is now playing for them. 1270 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 2: I just think they'll keep it close enough despite the Cavs. Man, 1271 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 2: they're great team. They're great team. They could easily blow 1272 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 2: them out. But well, I will hope for a game 1273 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 2: that's seven points. 1274 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 3: We're closer there, even if. 1275 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 2: The Knicks los. 1276 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm changing gears here. That's this comment here is 1277 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 3: it's stuck in macros. Just a question about Kevin Garnett, 1278 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 3: still with the in the stream team asking statue Jersey. 1279 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 3: Did he get out of the first round? 1280 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah he did? 1281 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he made a conference final, oh four. They 1282 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 3: were on the verge of getting there. Sam Cassell doesn't 1283 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 3: get hurt. Who knows, maybe they make the finals. Anyways, 1284 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 3: Teams can retire whoever they want. They give a statue 1285 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 3: to whoever they are, and KG deserves it? 1286 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640 Speaker 2: Who's it like, who's the least deserving of a statue 1287 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,439 Speaker 2: that would get one or no that has one. I'm 1288 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 2: just that statue that's you gotta be real good for 1289 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 2: franchise to get a statue. Yeah, I don't know. We 1290 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: have to do a deep dive on that. Let us 1291 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 2: know in the stream, team, let us know. 1292 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 4: In the comments. Trying to think of any bad statues. Yeah, 1293 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, Kareem pretty good. Yeah, Magic Johnson pretty get 1294 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 4: chick hern what do you what do you ever do? 1295 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 2: Didn't they score a single point? Oh yeah, definitely serve me. Yeah, 1296 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 2: statue that's like I mean, like, of course, like Dominique Wilkins, 1297 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean he didn't win anything. Of course he deserves 1298 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: a statue for the Hawks. 1299 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett right there. Yeah, number twenty one as well. 1300 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 4: Great number, great number. Let's retire that. Uh we should 1301 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 4: make a statue of your laptop. I know you're going 1302 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,640 Speaker 4: to be retiring it not too long. You did take 1303 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 4: off the twenty one sticker, Unfortunately we didn't. It used 1304 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 4: to be like right in the middle of where Biggie 1305 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 4: is it used to be. 1306 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe these stickers here shut out to Yettie, shutout 1307 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 5: to the yet buff that makes survivor buffs definitely shout 1308 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 5: out to them. 1309 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 2: Dunk Town, what's up? Dunk com? What what is the 1310 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 2: the well it was it did say it's the Athletic, 1311 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 2: but the Athletics started falling off, So then I just 1312 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 2: tried to the YETI yeah, this this old bad, this 1313 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 2: old computer holding on seeing some things. It's gonna go 1314 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 2: any day now. Like if I if I take the 1315 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: like you know, the power cord off. Uh huh oh, 1316 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm down to one percent. It's like a battery shot. No, 1317 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm kidding a little bit, but it goes quick. 1318 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 3: That's an old computer. 1319 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 2: That's a very old computer. 1320 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 3: I take care of I take care of that. 1321 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 2: That's another Rick Ross line. I take care of my computer. Guys, 1322 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us here on Monday. Email in your 1323 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 2: NBA questions too. No dunks at the Athletic dot com. 1324 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 2: Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok at No dunks Inc. 1325 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 2: That's I n C Grab yourself and Athletics. I can 1326 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 2: never say this. Do you notice I struggle with it 1327 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 2: almost every day? Eight times out of tabs. Grab Yourself 1328 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 2: an Athletics subscription. I just find I think it's because 1329 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm rushing near the end. And then I'm trying to 1330 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 2: say it too fast. Go to the Athletic dot Com 1331 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 2: slash no dunks. 1332 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 3: Maybe should just be get an athletic subscription, Yeah short. 1333 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,360 Speaker 2: It don't know, No, I think it's just the athletic description. 1334 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 2: The part gets a little dry by the end of 1335 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 2: the show too. Coffee is all gone. Coffee is all 1336 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: athletic subscription. I'm still stry. Appreciate you guys joining us, though, 1337 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 2: is what's getting you. Athleticcript subscription, subscript, the Athletic dot 1338 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Com slash too many explosives. That's why my sister told 1339 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 2: me a word that has a that's a plosive, right, yeah, script, 1340 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 2: I do struggle with that athletic subscription athletics subscription. No, 1341 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 2: it's easy terms apply. Alright, guys, we will see you tomorrow. 1342 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 2: Maybe do a little beach step and so get those 1343 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 2: questions in no dunks at the Athletic dot Com Until then, 1344 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Clipper bros. 1345 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up, 1346 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome. 1347 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember that sounds like a 1348 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 3: Rick Ross line morning not good coffee all gone, subscription 1349 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 3: not renewed. What am I gonna do? What am I 1350 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:12,439 Speaker 3: gonna do? That wasn't what am I gonna do? Anyway, Cool, 1351 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 3: It did raise the debut