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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a good revenge game.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 1: with Jordan Rodrieg.

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Speaker 2: And Patrick Claybahn.

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Speaker 1: Yes, a top of the rundown this week is a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl rematch, but I found other spots in this

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Speaker 1: schedule where there's some good revenge games just sprinkled throughout.

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Speaker 3: A thematic revenge week two as some teams looking to

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Speaker 3: bounce back.

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Speaker 4: It's good a dabble of revenge.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm glad to discuss revenge with two people

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Speaker 3: that I have no vengeance with.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: We almost get along too well.

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Speaker 1: I think like a little creative tension would be good

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Speaker 1: for the show, Jordan.

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Speaker 2: So if you just want to tick some frits, I

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Speaker 2: get it.

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Speaker 4: That's what you've been trying to do. I understand.

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Speaker 1: So we're breaking up the preview this week, and we're

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Speaker 1: talking all the AFC teams, all the AFC games, and

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Speaker 1: AFC teams that have the home games first. And it

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Speaker 1: did feel weird to start anywhere else but the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl rematch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Philadelphia Eagles at the Kansas City Chiefs. The

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Speaker 3: Eagles got their revenge, and I guess now the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: are re revenging that situation. It is an over under

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Speaker 3: a forty seven and a half Kansas City giving up

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Speaker 3: a half a point at home. Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 3: Tom Rinaldi and Aaron Andrews on the call. We saw

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles passing game light up the night in

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Greg, what does Jalen Hurts have for

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Speaker 3: Spacs's defense this time around?

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Speaker 1: It is difficult when there's only been one game played

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Speaker 1: between that to not have that in your mind and

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Speaker 1: think something similar could happen again. And that's why I've

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Speaker 1: seen like the big Chiefs fans out there, like our

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Speaker 1: friend Nick right, like, you know, making it a big

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Speaker 1: cause that Wow, the Chiefs are underdogs at home. That's disrespectful.

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Speaker 1: I think the lines flipped the other way. Either way,

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Speaker 1: it's basically a toss up. But these teams are so different.

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Speaker 1: I already think a lot differently about these two teams

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Speaker 1: and how they're constructed right now. And the biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: for me is on both sides, I'm not as confident

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Speaker 1: in their defenses.

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Speaker 2: Like for the Eagles and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: I think, first and foremost, we do want to see

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Speaker 4: what this looks like when Jalen Carter's actually playing in

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Speaker 4: the game. So first and farms and that front, because

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have Jordan Davis playing what eighty seven

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Speaker 4: percent of snaps, which he's never done in his career before,

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Speaker 4: you have Moro Jomo playing a lot more. This is

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Speaker 4: a defensive front that's supposed to be predicated on having

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Speaker 4: Jalen Carter present. Obviously we all were aware of Spitgate

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Speaker 4: and his absence from their season opener. It completely changed

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Speaker 4: what they want to do with their defense. But your

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Speaker 4: point on questions is good, Greg, because after watching Adri

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Speaker 4: Jackson last week and Vic Fangio's hesitancy, but maybe has

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Speaker 4: to eventually put Cooper dejen outside because it's been sort

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Speaker 4: of a catastrophe out there. I do have questions about

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Speaker 4: the secondary still.

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Speaker 3: And ultimately right, I think it's fair to have a

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Speaker 3: Dorri graded on a little bit of a curve. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to go from playing Ceedee Lamb to playing what left

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Speaker 3: of the Chiefs wide receiver corps, I know Hollywood Brown

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Speaker 3: is going to get majority of opportunities that Andy Reid

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Speaker 3: said this week that surgery is not on the table

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Speaker 3: right now. For Xavier Worthy, which was scary to hear that.

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Speaker 3: Right now, caveat that's.

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Speaker 2: That's as good as you can hope for. He's not

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Speaker 2: going on injured reserve.

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Speaker 4: And right now from day to day, quote unquote, right

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Speaker 4: now again right now, I just I just.

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Speaker 3: Don't like hearing that that right now part. Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 3: also took the blame for Xavier Worthy's injury. Now that

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Speaker 3: that's going to make anything better or worse. But I

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Speaker 3: just looking back at the Super Bowl, there was so

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Speaker 3: much attention and rightfully so buy Spags in stopping Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 3: that it's tough to imagine the game playing out that differently.

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Speaker 3: I know there's like there's some there's some parts of

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Speaker 3: the of the teams that have changed, and mostly on

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Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles point of view. But just from that

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Speaker 3: standpoint of approaching this Eagles offense, I think the priority

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Speaker 3: is still Saquon, which leaves DeVante Smith, who is close

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Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chief of being a guy I thinks

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Speaker 4: And guess who maybe is in a great mood after

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Speaker 4: a game plan like that. But aj Brown, who by

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Speaker 4: the way, has never started and finished a game with

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Speaker 4: less than four targets in his entire career, So something's

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Speaker 4: gonna change in that regard after last week.

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Speaker 2: It's a good call.

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Speaker 1: And I just don't love the fact that they have

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie on the outside and Samari Connor as their

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Speaker 1: positions worse. And I think you can pick on Connor

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I think one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: they signed Zadarius Smith and we haven't talked about that

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Speaker 1: on the show, that the Egles signed him and that

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Speaker 1: could turn out to be a great signing if they

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Speaker 1: get what he was a year ago. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the best third edge guys in the league. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: forgetting Nolan Smith of course, who didn't have a QB

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Speaker 1: hit last week. Yeah, Like their pass rush was not great,

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Speaker 1: josh Ucha was by far their best pass rusher and

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Speaker 1: he was given me like two thousand and twenty two

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Speaker 1: on the Patriots josh U j vibes. So if suddenly

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Speaker 1: you have Oocha and Zadaria Smith coming off the bench.

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Speaker 1: That's a really interesting matchup against you boy, Josh Simmons

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Speaker 1: And I feel better about that pass rush. But it

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Speaker 1: was interesting to me that it was a very quiet

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Speaker 1: game from that perspective. I know Jailen Carter wasn't there,

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Speaker 4: Know, yeah, and you know what, but even I know

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Speaker 4: there's like a right down the middle split between the

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Speaker 4: people that think that was a really, really big deal

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Speaker 4: and the people that don't think that should have been

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Speaker 4: that big of a deal. But I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: think about the amount of attention he commands and mathematically

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Speaker 4: the amount of just pure space, let alone matchups or

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Speaker 4: account mathematically for the amount of space that's being dedicated

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Speaker 4: big deal for the two tackles because they struggled. I

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Speaker 4: thought that Josh Simmons, I thought his feet looked really good,

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Speaker 4: and I think he's already pretty good. But the penalties,

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Speaker 4: by the speed coming off the edges. Those are things

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Speaker 4: that still have to be cleaned up. And Juan Taylor's

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Speaker 4: had struggles with penalties every year, right.

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Speaker 1: And their biggest problem really in that game was Sue Mattea,

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Speaker 1: you know, Carter over him at some points. And Jordan Davis,

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Speaker 1: I thought in retrospect when I rewatched the game, had

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Speaker 1: a good game. Actually it was probably one of Jordan

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Speaker 4: It looked like he was in shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, better games of his career.

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Speaker 1: And then watching and I do want to get to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense of it all, but watching Campbell and

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Speaker 1: Zach Bond and so this was, you know, the the first.

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Speaker 2: Game of the year.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of have a tradition. You know, you

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, you go watch, you have the time. There's

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Speaker 1: not a ton of get you go rewatch that back

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Speaker 1: like the All twenty two And I just focused on

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Speaker 1: everything there was. There was that stretch in the game

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have gone to him, but who cares. He made

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Speaker 1: a big play there, and Bond's two open field tackles

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Speaker 1: I think about that versus the Chiefs, like where are

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Speaker 1: their playmakers? Like Patrick Mahomes went full playmaker. I loved

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Speaker 1: to that was the I've been asking for the old

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. It was back. It was three or four

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Speaker 1: big time throws. It was scrambling. It was him trying

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Speaker 3: The plus side on that for the Eagles where the

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Speaker 3: upside for Johat Campbell was going to be the easy

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Speaker 3: stuff that you asked rookies to do, like occasionally rush

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Speaker 3: the passer, and here he's great on pass coverage. Right

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Speaker 3: receiving unit in that game. But it's I think things

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Speaker 3: will look better for this Eagles defense clearly, and we'll

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Speaker 3: see it's gonna have to be a lot of fifteen,

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Speaker 3: a lot of fifteen making plays.

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Speaker 4: And I think when we talk about changing the math

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Speaker 4: with the Eagles front, we have we also think about

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Speaker 4: changing the math with the Chiefs receivers with and without

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Speaker 4: Xavier Worthy on the field, because obviously he does so

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Speaker 4: much for them, and he makes the defense accountable for

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Speaker 4: so much space, not just in front of the zones

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Speaker 4: have to see whether he's available. If he's not, it's

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Speaker 4: a big Travis Kelcey game. I know we say this

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Speaker 4: year over year over year, and especially if vic Fango

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Speaker 4: decides to pop Cooper Dejen out onto the outside or

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid and Matt Naggie, I'm sort of licking my

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Speaker 4: chops thinking, Okay, I'm gonna, now, you know, really spam

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Speaker 4: But then that's where you're so lucky, And probably luck

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Speaker 4: is the wrong word if you're the freaking Eagles, because

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Speaker 4: you got two cover linebackers in there who are gonna

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Speaker 4: just maul the tight end. I just I love this.

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Speaker 4: I love all the counter possibilities in this game.

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Speaker 1: Mahomes was twelve for nineteen last week for eighty four yards,

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Speaker 1: again split safety coverage, and now he goes up against Fangio,

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Speaker 1: who helped to change the league in terms of the

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Speaker 1: coverages that has essentially strangled the Chiefs into being one

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Speaker 1: of the worst deep ball teams in the league. So

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Speaker 1: the matchup is fascinating and like logic leans Eagles. And

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Speaker 1: yet there is part of me that just I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the Kansas City Chiefs being owing to I do

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Speaker 1: sometimes make picks based off of that, I just I.

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Speaker 2: Can't quite imagine it.

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Speaker 1: And there is something about whenever you think that the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are really in trouble, they just, you know, find

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Speaker 1: a way. And that's why fifteen is fifteen at home too.

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Speaker 4: And that crowd at the Super Bowl, Greg. I mean,

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Speaker 4: That was and also the shot, the sideline shots, he

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Speaker 4: You know what I think is kind of cool about this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were some opportunities there. There are some throws

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Speaker 4: If you have a game like that, that's the coach

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Speaker 3: Clearly after my fraudulent Survivor pick.

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Speaker 1: Will Oh, that's right, you took Miami. We will be

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Speaker 3: And I'll be watching you guys.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Our next matchup the want to Oh Buffalo Bills giving

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Speaker 4: It might be my new favorite.

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Speaker 1: I'm sad that that that exists. I'm glad this is

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Speaker 4: figured out.

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Speaker 1: The secondary looks like a mess, and I think the

438
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Speaker 1: last team you want to play when you're the Bills,

439
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Speaker 1: who even against the Ravens are just sitting back in

440
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Speaker 1: that shell coverage and they're just running all over them.

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Speaker 1: And there's no right way to do it, because even

442
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Speaker 1: when they brought people up to try to stop Derrick

443
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Speaker 1: Henry in the playoffs, it didn't necessarily work that well.

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Speaker 2: It is what they do.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the Jets are a particularly difficult

446
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Speaker 1: matchup for that style of team based off all the

447
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Speaker 1: way they ran the ball.

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Speaker 4: At Oliver can't do everything he tried. He had a

449
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Speaker 4: great game, but he needs some help. And the Jets

450
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Speaker 4: are tough because they are physical. We saw this last

451
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Speaker 4: last week. They're physical, they are running the ball really

452
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Speaker 4: really well. And they also had a number one receiver

453
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Speaker 4: who went almost one hundred and he went what ninety

454
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Speaker 4: five yards Garrett Wilson had ninety five yards, and the

455
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Speaker 4: kind of went quietly underneath the run game by Breze

456
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Speaker 4: Hall and how much that line was moving people around.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this could be dangerous.

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Speaker 3: The one thing like that left off the screen to

459
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Speaker 3: me was because Mike Tomlin loved that defense. I know

460
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Speaker 3: that the projections for the twenty twenty five Pittsburgh Steelers

461
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Speaker 3: defense were significantly better than the offense. I was one

462
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Speaker 3: of those folks. And then AmAm Mimbu comes out his

463
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Speaker 3: first career NFL game, going up against t J Watt

464
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Speaker 3: and Cam Hayward and all those guys. Twenty six pass

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Speaker 3: blocking snaps with a time to pressure of three point

466
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Speaker 3: eight seconds, almost four seconds of pass protection from your

467
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Speaker 3: rookie in his first game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Where

468
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Speaker 3: and we saw just again there's so much that's a

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Speaker 3: Raven's asterisk with that. Yeah, first week that I understand

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Speaker 3: to concern.

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Speaker 1: They were a mess. They were a mess in practice. Reportedly,

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Speaker 1: they were a mess in the preseason in terms of

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Speaker 1: whether it's Bishop or Damar Hamlin on the back end

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Speaker 1: at least.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and those those are concerns that we had on

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Speaker 3: the back end for a team that could have easily

477
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Speaker 3: gone to and won the Super Bowl a year ago.

478
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Speaker 3: There's only so many different ways you can get a

479
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Speaker 3: team together in the NFL in twenty twenty five. But

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Speaker 3: it's it is almost a josh An all Josh show.

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Speaker 3: And as you mentioned Ed Oliver, I know he can't

482
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Speaker 3: be everywhere, but so much is reliant on ninety one

483
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Speaker 3: to make a play and that's what he that's what

484
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Speaker 3: he was able to do. And the Bills just are

485
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Speaker 3: going to need just enough and get the ball into

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Speaker 3: seventeen's hands and have him make a play at.

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Speaker 1: The end and get into Kean Coleman's hands too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. He had one of those training camps where

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Speaker 1: if you're tracking like the daily coverage from your colleague

490
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Speaker 1: Joe bassaldlea who I think does a great job, you know,

491
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Speaker 1: it was like a rough start to camp. They're hoping

492
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Speaker 1: he bounces up and then you heard a steady drum

493
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Speaker 1: bee as it was ending that the light was kind

494
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Speaker 1: of turning on and in one of the catches that

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Speaker 1: he made, not the touchdown, which really was an incredible

496
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Speaker 1: individual play, And when I rewatched that, that really was

497
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Speaker 1: the intended target for Josh Allen. It was just I

498
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Speaker 1: think can catered knocks. Whoever it was that kind of

499
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Speaker 1: saw it and put his hand, but he was trying

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Speaker 1: to throw it to Coleman. But great concentration, but he

501
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Speaker 1: had to play up the sideline earlier. That to me

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Speaker 1: showed everything you want out of Keon Coleman. They have

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Speaker 1: to me more than enough weapons they did last year

504
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Speaker 1: to be the number one most efficient offense in league.

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Speaker 2: My problem is, like with the.

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Speaker 1: Jets, Like, okay, asking the Jets to keep up in

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Speaker 1: a shootout is kind of a wild thing to expect,

508
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Speaker 1: But based on how their defense looked a week ago, yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: maybe that stuff they can fix because it felt like

510
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Speaker 1: a lot of coverage bust. Guys were just running wide open.

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Speaker 1: If that stuff is happening in like week six, that's

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Speaker 1: the type of defense you would say, Oh, that's not

513
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Speaker 1: a well coached defense right now. It was a lot

514
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Speaker 1: of just big time mistakes from the Jets defense.

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Speaker 4: I would rather have that type of problem that's schematically correctable.

516
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Speaker 4: Then guys are not tackling at the right angle, Safeties

517
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Speaker 4: are not in the place that they need to be

518
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Speaker 4: to make the proper tackle on the running backs. Linebackers

519
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Speaker 4: are out of position to make the tackles on the

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Speaker 4: running backs. Running backs are just running through. That's where

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Speaker 4: I'm concerned, because if you can run the ball like

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Speaker 4: this this early in the year, if you're the Jets

523
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Speaker 4: and you're the Bills and you know you're gonna put

524
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Speaker 4: up a lot of points, you're still in trouble every

525
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Speaker 4: single week that this is not fixed on the defensive side.

526
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Speaker 4: Because yes, you can rely on your superhuman quarterback and

527
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Speaker 4: that will probably get you pretty far. But like I said,

528
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Speaker 4: if you're getting pushed around like this, the way that

529
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Speaker 4: the Jets did to the Steelers through a lot of

530
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Speaker 4: that game, and also the way that the Bills themselves

531
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Speaker 4: got pushed around for most of that game by the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: this is I'm worried about this team.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, there's there is a real difference in

534
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Speaker 3: getting blown up and not being at the right position

535
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Speaker 3: at the start of the play. Baltimore Ravens and you

536
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Speaker 3: know Taylor rap trying to make a tackle on Derek

537
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Speaker 3: Henry in space, it's going to have a predicable outcome.

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Speaker 3: But when ben' Skeroonic and Calvin Austin are just running

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Speaker 3: down the field by themselves. Right, They're both, They're both

540
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Speaker 3: scamatic issues that desperately need to be addressed.

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Speaker 4: Ben's Kronick erasure right, the.

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Speaker 3: Pool old champion, no shade that Ben I love.

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Speaker 1: Early in the season, and these teams are just figuring

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Speaker 1: themselves out. It's almost the first three four weeks. It

545
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Speaker 1: just we're we're just finding out who they are. But

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Speaker 1: it's hard. Patrick, as a member, a longtime member, I

547
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Speaker 1: would imagine of Justin Field's nation, which I consider myself

548
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Speaker 1: a member of, not to be excited about one of

549
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Speaker 1: the best games of his career.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's it in it, No, it's exaggerate.

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Speaker 3: That is not a stretch, Like.

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Speaker 1: In every single way that we talked about that we

553
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Speaker 1: thought they would maximize him, but it was really the

554
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Speaker 1: past the day passing. I thought that was impressive in

555
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Speaker 1: terms of the plan and the execution.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I do think it kind of

557
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Speaker 4: went under narrated, I guess. But they lost, Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: they lost and then but also I mean, he had

559
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Speaker 4: he had time, he had space, but he also had

560
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Speaker 4: this confidence and he had this like the way that

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Speaker 4: he ran the offense. You could tell it has been

562
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Speaker 4: built for him in every phase, and I have to

563
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Speaker 4: believe that gives somebody confidence on the other side. And

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Speaker 4: I say it again, like, what are you going to

565
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Speaker 4: do against Josh Allen? Probably nothing honestly all season, and

566
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Speaker 4: he's going to have to do everything at least for

567
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Speaker 4: now and get the ball to his playmakers. But I

568
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Speaker 4: just I kind of think this could be a shootout.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, I would love if that.

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Speaker 1: The Bills Jets rivalry in the year twenty twenty five

571
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Speaker 1: is an offense fueled game.

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Speaker 4: As the Patriots disappear from view.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots and the Dolphins barely exist this week.

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Speaker 1: But that's the power of Week two. You can just

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Speaker 1: completely flip it. We are going to take a quick break.

576
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Speaker 2: We're just getting started with all these AFC.

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Speaker 1: Teams back on NFL Daily Fun slate of games. I

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Speaker 1: gotta say cam Ward last week had one of the

579
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Speaker 1: most exciting nightmarish games possible. Like his performance wasn't a nightmare,

580
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Speaker 1: but like the Titans overall team and the result was.

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Speaker 2: Kind of nightmarish. And yet going back to.

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Speaker 1: Watch that like it was, I was, I was like,

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Speaker 1: give me sixteen more of these, obviously with more completions

584
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Speaker 1: and more productions.

585
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Speaker 2: But I just want to watch this man play football.

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Speaker 4: Okay it please keep him safe?

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Speaker 3: Must see TV for cam Ward on the road. He

588
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Speaker 3: and this Tennessee Titans get to be back at home

589
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Speaker 3: facing off against the man who was deprived of a

590
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Speaker 3: Throw of the Year candidate nomination, that is Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 2: I'll put it on, put it on. We gotta just

592
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Speaker 2: document it, Okay.

593
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Speaker 3: To Matthew Stafford of the Los Angeles Rams, who are

594
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Speaker 3: a six point favorite at the Titans. The over unders

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Speaker 3: forty one and a half Iron Eagle TJ's brother and

596
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Speaker 3: Evan Washburn on the call as Greg these Rams seemingly

597
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: nine is healthy. He was standing very upright in his

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Speaker 3: postgame interview after a win. How do you feel about

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Speaker 3: them against the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: I feel great, except the offensive line already looks like

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Speaker 1: it's going to be down. Two starters slipped a little

602
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Speaker 1: under the radar. Steve Abula and Kevin Dottson are both

603
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Speaker 1: listed as week to week, so that's their their starting

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Speaker 1: interior players and going up against the Titans defense that

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Speaker 1: I came up with after watching them against Denver, Like,

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Speaker 1: what would you guys describe them as if you if

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Speaker 1: you could do it in one word, because I think

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Speaker 1: I came up with the perfect one word to describe.

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Speaker 2: The Titans defense.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if you can tap me ibouly violent, violent, okay,

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Speaker 1: Jordan angry, angry.

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Speaker 3: I was going to do creditable, Oh okay, Oh we

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Speaker 3: went with more.

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Speaker 1: Like professional would be another. I just was watching them

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, you know what, that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: creditable defense. Credible, creditable, that's a word, you know, just

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Speaker 1: like they're there, they're professional, like they they they do

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00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: credit to themselves.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be flashy.

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Speaker 1: But it's just a lot of players without like a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of team speed overall, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of players who are just like rock solid and

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Speaker 1: yes a little a little violent.

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Speaker 4: Well they've got to carry a lot. That's why I

625
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Speaker 4: say angry. I would be if I not to do

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Speaker 4: my job like that.

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Speaker 3: The rest it's a very polite way to say mid

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Speaker 3: for those.

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Speaker 2: Of you who know, see that's different.

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Speaker 1: It's a creditable edible, but it's not like you have

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Speaker 1: me a question itself.

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Speaker 3: Creditible public acknowledgement and praise, but not necessarily outstanding or successful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, read a book, Jordan, come on, expand that

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Speaker 1: vocab okay, like this okay, So and when I think

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Speaker 1: about creditable angry, I mean Jeffrey Simmons is a little

636
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Speaker 1: beyond that, Like he is violent and he was yes,

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Speaker 1: and it was that's.

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Speaker 3: The play that I'm thinking of, Jeffrey Simmons personal foul

639
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: that you could make the case cost the Titans a

640
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: legitimate shot at winning the game because it extended a

641
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: Broncos drive. Uh, that was the violence that I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: I think they're just tough, Like if you go go

643
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Speaker 1: through the like Sebastian Joseph Day, like he's a pro

644
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Speaker 1: Defandre Sweat, He's a lot to deal with. They have

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Speaker 1: guys like like arden Key and shy Tittle who are

646
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Speaker 1: like coming off the bench. And then I thought it

647
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: was big for them. Lagarius Sneed was on a pitch count,

648
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Speaker 1: but while he was in there, he he looked like

649
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Speaker 1: Lagarious Snead And you think about this matchup, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's probably the guy who would draw DeVante that is

651
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Speaker 1: a much tougher, like he's gonna be the guy who's

652
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Speaker 1: going to go against the physical cornerbacks.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to use him more.

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Speaker 1: But you add up the players in that secondary, and

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Speaker 1: again it's not flashy, but Roger mccrue's like a good player.

656
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Monti Hooker is a good player. They just gave a

657
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: contract doing. It's just like a lot of guys who

658
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: are solid, and maybe we see some year two growth

659
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: out of this defense and that would help cam Ward out.

660
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, when the Rams hosted the Titans,

661
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 4: this was a really bad game for Matthew Stafford. This

662
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: was multiple hits, multiple turnovers. Jeffrey Simmons had his way

663
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: with the interior of that offensive line as well. Even

664
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: if you have Steve Avula and Kevin Dotson back on

665
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: the left and right side, they're dealing with respective leg, foot, ankle,

666
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: knee injuries, and so that's something that is definitely going

667
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: to factor in. Matthew Stafford did, in fact, not only

668
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: survive but thrive in this game. By the way, I

669
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: will note this is my survivor pick oo this week.

670
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: I could not bet against Matthew staff Watching the game

671
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: that he played this last week, I was really really

672
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: impressed with it. I did also win my Survivor pick

673
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: last week. I do take this game very seriously. Minnesota,

674
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: Now I believed in the entire time definitely was the

675
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: right pick. But in this in this game, I think

676
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: it's super interesting because you know, the Rams actually the defense,

677
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: the pass rush which is so outstanding and again put

678
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: on quite a show. You know, recovered that last force

679
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: fumble at the end of the game to ice out.

680
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: The Texans pressured CJ. Stroud quite a bit about a

681
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: fifty rate forty eight percent rate this last game. It's

682
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: they're also really susceptible to quarterbacks who can move. There

683
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: were a couple times where CJ. Stroud baited the over

684
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 4: rush where they lost their rush integrity because they are

685
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: young and they want to sect the quarterback. This happened

686
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 4: to them all last year. It's a coaching point that

687
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: they've reiterated over and over again, especially to those edge guys,

688
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: and they did see it right away at the beginning

689
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: of that game. So I think that cam Ward can

690
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 4: make some things happen against this front, even though I

691
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: do think over time this front will just wear on

692
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: you and that's going to ultimately decide the game. In

693
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: my opinion, but I think he'll make some plays against him.

694
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 3: They were so much better against Houston when they didn't blitz.

695
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

696
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: I think they were only able to convert about twelve

697
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: percent of their pressures when blitzing into sacks against the

698
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Houston Texans. And so they just ultimately decided we're going

699
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: to utilize that talent and have in great plays in

700
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: the secondary. At cam Kinchen's had that turnover, and I

701
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: believe there was another interception that was from Kobe Durant.

702
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: Kobe Durant, he snatched it right out of receivers, had.

703
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: A stolen play where it's like, if you have those

704
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: guys in position to make plays, just get the extra

705
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: defender there. I really don't think coach Oula doesn't even

706
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: need to worry about the blitz. Just let these let

707
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: those four guys get out. Yeah.

708
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: I think that's the recipe for this team. Is the

709
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: defense improved significantly this year.

710
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: Kind of sneaky though Darius Williams got benched, Emmanuel Forbes

711
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: and Kobe Durant were playing on the outside, and then

712
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: Kello Witherspoon was barely playing on the outside. He is

713
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: coming back from an injury but those two guys are

714
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: as about as healthy as they can be, which means

715
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: because if Darius Williams is their highest paid defensive player,

716
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: just someone to keep an eye on as the next

717
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: week's and potentially month and a half continues. But it

718
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 4: is really really interesting to me because they aren't asking

719
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 4: their secondary to do so much because their front seven

720
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: is doing everything and Chris Shula is mixing up his fronts.

721
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: He's got odd fronts, he's got even fronts. I mentioned

722
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: this last week. He's got Braden Fisk out wide as

723
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: a nine technique with a bunch of other guys who

724
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 4: are usually on the edge now on the inside. They're

725
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: sort of inverting their line in different ways. So they're

726
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: going to give this embattled Titans offensive line pretty much

727
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: everything it can handle. And so Cam Woard again, I

728
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: fear has to be have sort of that Superman game.

729
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 4: I think he'll make his plays, though.

730
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Dan Moore was a disaster for the Titans last week.

731
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: And you call the offensive line in battle if that

732
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: remains true.

733
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Speaker 4: Was that the right word or should I thought you google?

734
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: That's perfect? No, the wrong word was bet.

735
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: You can't we can't say bet on NFL Media but

736
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: of course we kind of can because no one knows

737
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: it's no one knows it's true.

738
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm making a joke about you know, the let.

739
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: You know when you want to google a word for

740
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: me again.

741
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: Thanks, I mean creditable, I mean you had you had me.

742
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm wondering because I was.

743
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: I wasn't certain.

744
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: I started to feel crazy. I was like, that is

745
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: a word.

746
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: But their offensive line, that's what this whole team is

747
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: built around. Right, first round picks huge money to Dan Moore.

748
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: J C.

749
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Latham has a hip injury and we're not sure about

750
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: his status and Dan Moore had a nightmare game a

751
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: week ago, and so if they're not good, like this

752
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: team is not going to be good.

753
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: I do want to have the cam word conversation quickly.

754
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: I do love your Survivor pick too, so much so

755
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: that I actually texted Quob it's going to be my pick.

756
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: But now that I'm thinking out loud about it, I'm

757
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: changing my mind because I'm thinking we're giving these Survivor

758
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: picks for the people because we are not allowed to

759
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: b word, but the people out there are. But in reality,

760
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: we're also I guess having a competition within this room.

761
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: We want to have our Survivor picks against Judge, so

762
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: it does seem stupid to have the same one. So

763
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I will hold off and come up with another one.

764
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: But just know, I do think it is absolutely a

765
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: great pick. I got some texts this week, Patrick from

766
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: our friend of the show, Kevin Clark, and the takeaways

767
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: from those texts was, have you know, have you watched

768
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: this game yet? It's it's cam Ward and ten bozos

769
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: out there. I now know how Justin Herbert feel.

770
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: Justin Herbert fan, noted Miami fan Kevin Clark.

771
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 2: By the way, he's.

772
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Like, this is how he's like, I know how Justin Herbert.

773
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: You know fans feel. Over the last few years. It

774
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: was tough. It wasn't all perfect for cam Ward, but man,

775
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: he had a lot of great Yeah.

776
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: There were drops. There were some in the in the

777
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: fourth quarter especially he was firing steam balls at two

778
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: hundred miles an hour, the Chigo Conkuo. We're like, I

779
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: understand not cashing those. But there was no There was

780
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: never this And if folks were watching the Monday Night

781
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: game where you saw JJ McCarthy kind of evolved as

782
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: the game went on and get that confident cam Ward

783
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: had that at the start of the game, at the

784
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: very start game, and to an extent where now I'm

785
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: wondering what he did to the schedule makers to start

786
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 3: with offensive line problems, to start Broncos, then Rams, and

787
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: then in two weeks they're the Texans.

788
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 2: It's absolutely brutal, Like give the kid a break, please.

789
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: It's brutal because he had some just wild man throws

790
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: to throw across his body from his own goal line,

791
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: which was money and just the things he was trying.

792
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: This is a great quarterback matchup, this, you know. Adding

793
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: in a perfect.

794
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: World, he would evolve into a Matthew Stafford like player.

795
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: And Stafford is already right there.

796
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: Plays fearlessly like Stafford.

797
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Right, He's just he's a walking advertisement for a mortal.

798
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: I think Jordan, and I don't want to put words

799
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Jordan, who Stafford?

800
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: Right?

801
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think a Mortal's going to go crazy?

802
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: Now?

803
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm not giving them any more pops.

804
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, Jordan has gotten so much grief. I think

805
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: over the years of being you know, yeah, you've covered

806
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: the Rams, so you know we talk about the Rams.

807
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: I don't think we talked about them anymore that if anything,

808
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: we were Yeah, we were under selling that Stafford performance

809
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: last week, Like he just came back and he looked

810
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: my absolute peak Stafford. So for the record, I picked

811
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: them to win the division on NFL dot Com, like,

812
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: as long as it's a healthy Stafford, they're going to

813
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: be fine.

814
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: And man, he looks health.

815
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: Fourteen points did not tell the story either. Poor Jordan

816
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Whittington could not catch a break, caught everything else, couldn't

817
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 4: catch a break. A huge special team's play called back

818
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: because of a penalty. Troy Reader rams fans, I know,

819
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 4: you know gets makes a catchdown field potentially puts them

820
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: in huge position to score actual points which they had

821
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 4: very little of, called back again due to a penalty.

822
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 4: And Jordan Whittington was playing a little fullback for them,

823
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: which is very intriguing sit in that position. And more

824
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: significantly more twelve personnel as well, which I think is

825
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 4: a factor, especially settling down their run game, especially taking

826
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: the teeth out of more fearsome defensive fronts. And they're

827
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: going to face another one this week.

828
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm not often conspiratorial, but as good as Matthew Stafford played,

829
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: and we mentioned a brand relationship, now I'm starting to wonder,

830
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 3: where are.

831
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: We face that's what they want.

832
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

833
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: We'll come back in like week five.

834
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: Now, that's going to have to be up there after

835
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: four games of getting hit in.

836
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see. But he looked, he looked fresh.

837
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, could be so it could be some magic beans.

838
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: Speaking of magic, let's get up to the Pacific Northwest,

839
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: where the Seattle Seahawks will be leaving this week to

840
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: fly to Pittsburgh to take on the Steelers. These Steelers

841
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: are giving up two and a half points the over

842
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: unders forty and a half. Adam a Mean, Mark Sanchez,

843
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: and Christina Pink on the call. Jordan d Seahawks fans

844
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: saw little Sam Donald throwing the ball to JSN. Will

845
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 3: he throw the ball to other people in this game

846
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

847
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: I mean he has to, right, but like if they

848
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 4: would like to win this game. Two matchups that I

849
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 4: really love in this game is DK Metcalf now Pittsburgh

850
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: Steeler versus his former team. Another little dabble of revenge,

851
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 4: Patrick trying to get those to you.

852
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 3: Also against the Jets.

853
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 4: Also this is Jalen Ramsey versus the former NFC West

854
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 4: team that he used to hate playing against or kind

855
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: of love playing against as well. This is former Super

856
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: Bowl teammates Jalen Ramsey and Cooper Cup potentially squaring off

857
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: a couple of times depending on where either of them

858
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 4: lines up. Jalen Ramsey was playing on the outside by

859
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: the end of that game because Joey Porter Junior got injured.

860
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: But this is kind of exciting. There's dabbles of revenge

861
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: all throughout the Aaron Rodgers was almost the Rams quarterback

862
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: if they couldn't get a deal done with Matthew Stafford.

863
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald was almost the Steelers quarterback. How about Aaron Rodgers'

864
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: revenge on Sam Darnold for him being like one of

865
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: the seventeen quarterbacks that Steelers wanted before they signed Aaron.

866
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 4: Rodgers, and for being friends with Rayin Wilson. You know,

867
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers love that.

868
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of that, but I do love that.

869
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: I know. Yes, there's so much dabbling of revenge and intrigue.

870
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Play action I think tells a story in this game.

871
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: So Rogers, famously throughout his career has not been play

872
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: action friendly, didn't want to do it that much, and

873
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: he ends up with ten of his attempts last week

874
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: in play action. Three of his touchdowns were in play action.

875
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Was very effective. Looked a lot of like Arthur Smith

876
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Doffens were. On the other side, we were sold to

877
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: bill of goods in the preseason with Clint Kubiak. We

878
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 1: think under center play action they had the lowest play

879
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: action rate in the league. It was almost like he

880
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: was Clint Kubiak trying to Jedi mind trick the forty

881
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: nine ers. We're not going to do what you think

882
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: we're going to do. We're going to do the total opposite.

883
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: And it didn't really work for the Seahawks. So that's

884
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: something I'm going to watch if they go back to

885
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: what we thought they were going to be.

886
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of strange too. And I saw a couple

887
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: of plays that were really outstanding by Fred Warner who

888
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: was reading his keys and really because he knows so

889
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 4: he knows the kettle of Kubiaks that we've ascertained is

890
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: going to be the name for the grouping of Kubiak

891
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: people that are in the league. And he really read

892
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: the fullback really, really well. So there's a lot of

893
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: things that the linebackers in San Francisco were doing to

894
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: sort of say, hey, we know what you're going to do,

895
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: which might have hamstrung uh kubiak as oc a little

896
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: bit and made him DEVI eight from what he wanted

897
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 4: to do. I have no doubt that they're going to

898
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: get try to get back to doing that. What I

899
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 4: thought was curious is that Aaron Rodgers didn't throw an

900
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: attempt past twenty air yards despite all that play action,

901
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: And I do wonder if they start to sling it

902
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 4: out a little bit more, it's going to be tough.

903
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of the new Aaron Rodgers at least that

904
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: we've seen over the last few years.

905
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: But that's that's like the only the third time in

906
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 4: his career that that's happened, So you know, it's it's

907
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: going to be interesting because you have to get the

908
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 4: ball down the field. I don't know if they can

909
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: much against the Seattle defense, though.

910
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: I think well as far as Tarik Willen's performance, because

911
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: I know Seahawks fans are going to look at a

912
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: couple of very glaring plays and plays a lot of

913
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: blame on Treiqu Willen. I don't necessarily think it was

914
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: all that bad considering how close the game was. This

915
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: was more of an issue with the Seattle offense, where

916
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: Sam Donald got pressured thirty two percent of his dropbacks,

917
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: higher than any game with the Minnesota Vikings. And I

918
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: say this not just to build up Gino, because we

919
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: said this at the onset. It's just a fundamentally different

920
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: situation for Sam Donald when the pressure is coming in

921
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: that way, especially the interior pressure, where it causes him

922
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: to not play like the peak Sam Donald that we've seen.

923
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: Interior pressure is going to bother a lot of quarterbacks,

924
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: but it seems to bother Donald more than others.

925
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: I was curious when I put that game on to

926
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: see him, like how he struggled, and in the end

927
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: I thought Donald played fine. Actually these two quarterbacks, I

928
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: think Rogers was good but he wasn't as good as

929
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: the numbers. And Donald wasn't great, but he wasn't as

930
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: bad or as quiet as the numbers. I think he

931
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: did his job. They just had like the highest run

932
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: rate versus expected of any team in the league, and

933
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: they weren't that effective. It was a lot of sharp

934
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: and it was okay, but like there was no Arroyo

935
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: on the offense, there's no explosion on that offense. I

936
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: think Cooper Cup makes you a slow offense. I'm not

937
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: rooting against him, but you know, he led the team

938
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: and snaps and he kind of had a nightmare game.

939
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: He was a problem in the running game multiple times,

940
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: blowing his block on plays that got blown up and

941
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: obviously didn't give them much to their So they need

942
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: to get more out of them, and I'm glad you

943
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: mentioned Riek. Mike McDonald was asked about him on Wednesday

944
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: whether he will start this week, and he said, we'll see.

945
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: So they might be speaking of coaches that are like

946
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: pretty honest, maybe without meaning to be at the podium.

947
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: You know, we've had m McDonald.

948
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've had some moments we've seen we watched from him,

949
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: because yeah, they're they're depending on it seems like if

950
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: things aren't working, they're trying to depend on Jackson Smith

951
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 4: and Jigbus so much. And he's lining up over you know,

952
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: sixty percent of the time on the outside, and yes,

953
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: he's getting fed a lot of targets. But they need layers.

954
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: They need to mention in that passing game, and they

955
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: also need to get get off the ball better in

956
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: the run game because A good running back is not

957
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: going to fix your run blocking. It can compliment it,

958
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: it's not going to fix it.

959
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: There's so many mystery box teams, almost every team is

960
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: at this stage of the season, but these two would

961
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: be in like my inner circle of the biggest mystery

962
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: box team. I would stay away from this game. I

963
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: have no idea who is going to win this game.

964
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: It's an avoid, avoid at all costs, and maybe even eyeballs.

965
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Just kidding, I am not averting my eyeballs from our

966
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: next game in any way whatsoever. I think this could

967
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: be a calculator game Jacksonville at Cincinnati, where the Bengals

968
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: are giving up three and a half points after feeling

969
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: like they were going to score three and a half

970
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: points last week. Greg Over under fifty and a half.

971
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: We love numbers. Chris Lewis, Logan, Ryan Tiffany Blackman on

972
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: the call. Do the Bengals bounce back and beat trevn

973
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: Company at home?

974
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: I will pick them for I think, but I would

975
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: not go with the three and a half points that

976
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were impressive enough, and I just think it's

977
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 1: a It's a coin flip game in general. And Zach

978
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Taylor's struck a weird post to me, like the last

979
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, like I like him in front of

980
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: the media.

981
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: I've gotten to like him more as I've watched him more.

982
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: But he was remarkably positive after last week's game after

983
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: they had negative eighteen yards in the fourth quarter, and

984
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: like he was like this was like he was just saying, like,

985
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: we're you know, this was great, this was amazing. They

986
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: had seven yards after halftime. And then this week, I mean,

987
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: he is really excited about this opportunity.

988
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: What would it mean to win?

989
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: It would be your first win in week two since

990
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: becoming head.

991
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to be two.

992
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: And oh, I know I haven't been too an os

993
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: something here bad, I can tell you.

994
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 2: I mean I want them. I want him to aim higher,

995
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: you know.

996
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: Then scraping out a win with negative negative eighteen yards

997
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: against the Browns.

998
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, three and out on their last four drives on

999
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 4: the positive for the Bengals. I mean, this is a

1000
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 4: big question they'll find out this week against Liam Cohen

1001
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville and ETN and Basehel Touton and guys who

1002
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 4: ran the ball really well last week against the somewhat

1003
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: happiless Carolina Panthers if they can still run the ball

1004
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: against the Bengals. My question is did the Bengals fix

1005
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 4: their run defense because their run defense looked pretty dang

1006
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: good last week.

1007
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: And Week two mix for those was that the Brown yes?

1008
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 3: Or was that Bengals defense. I do think after watching

1009
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco get around two point eight four seconds per

1010
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: throw and seeing Joe Flacco throw on the run and

1011
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: play very well and look very very comfortable, I don't

1012
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 3: see hmm. I know Trevor Lawrence had a bad underthrow

1013
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: of Travis Hunter that got picked off by Jacon Horn,

1014
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: one of the best plays in Week one. If the

1015
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: pass rush is like this, the Jags will score forty points. Wow.

1016
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the d line showed something a

1017
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: little bit from Cincinnati side. I think Jamar Stewart I

1018
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: think flashed a little bit. I'm like, Okay, he's going

1019
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: to do some things inside. You mentioned they have bodies

1020
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: where I'm like, at least you could look at it

1021
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: and think there's room for improvement. I'm really worried about

1022
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: their offensive line. You know, on the interior, the Bengals

1023
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: were giving up pressure throughout and I know everyone's like

1024
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: just throw it away. Burrow is always terrible in Week

1025
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: one division opponent, the Brown Strog. I get that, but

1026
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: I think this offensive line could be an issue all season,

1027
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: and it's going up against a JAG's pass rush that

1028
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: I think people.

1029
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: Aren't going to be sleeping on much longer.

1030
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: Heinz Allen and Chevon Walker and Eric Armstead while he's healthy.

1031
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: That's a difficult matchup.

1032
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: And I think I'd be a little worried about that

1033
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 1: offensive line if I was a Bengals fan.

1034
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: If I am remembering correctly, wasn't Josh heinz Allen like

1035
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 4: one of the highest.

1036
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Graded play I think he had the most pressures of

1037
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: anyone in the league.

1038
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he played, he jumped off the screen,

1039
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 4: he played fantastic. It's like he kind of heard the

1040
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: question mark surrounding that entire defense group and the structure

1041
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 4: of it. And let's not forget it's all new coaches

1042
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: over there, you know, offense, defense, special teams head coach.

1043
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: To me, it's like, I see, I see the potential

1044
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: of another strong start by the Bengals, but they could

1045
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 4: not run the ball, which is going to really hurt them.

1046
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: And then in the entire second half of the game

1047
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: just completely deteriorated, deteriorated, no explosive plays, negative yardage. This

1048
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: is an issue that I don't know. I mean, you

1049
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 4: really expect more from Joe Burrow, a Joe Burrow and

1050
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase led team, and to me, it's again, is

1051
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 4: Week one a liar kind of a thing.

1052
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: Well, I think the liar might be the way we

1053
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: feel about this team when they're not playing the Cleveland Browns,

1054
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: like the.

1055
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: Schwartz of it all, the Schwarts of it all.

1056
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: In hindsight, Yeah, this is what happens. The Cincinnati Bengles

1057
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: play this defense and like Miles Garrett having sacks on

1058
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: back to back plays like that, Yeah, that's something I'm

1059
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: willing to chalk up and say that. Yeah, they're going

1060
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: to play better on offense. But again, the defense got

1061
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: zero pressures on Joe Flacco on the zero.

1062
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: So you would say to the Jaguars defense, like mad

1063
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: the Schwartz be with you, absolutely everybody take take that

1064
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: game plan.

1065
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 3: I can't say my favorite space Ball's quote.

1066
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Run it back.

1067
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: I also want to just say I know people are

1068
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: talking and like, how come Greg hasn't said anything about this,

1069
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Like what, what's happening. There's just a lot of whispers.

1070
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: But as the president of Travis Hunter Nation, we are

1071
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: not concerned that was.

1072
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: Gonna be a touchdown that Jacon Horn picked off.

1073
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: We we are holding firm. You know, the offensive and

1074
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year predictions might have been like

1075
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: a slight, you know, bit of extra dip on the

1076
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: chip on the defensive side, but Liam Cohen said this

1077
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: week they're gonna crank up his defensive snaps a little bit.

1078
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna take it might take a little bit of

1079
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: time to for all to get integrated, but Hunter Nation

1080
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: has no concerns whatsoever.

1081
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: Also, the number one thing the Jaguars wanted to do,

1082
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: I mean, not only was it clear Bye. We talked

1083
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: earlier this week about how a coach's script and then

1084
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: consecutive plays kind of shows you what he wants to

1085
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 4: do or what he wants you to think he's about.

1086
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 4: They wanted to run the ball. They wanted to run

1087
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 4: it down Carolina's throat, and they did, and they knew

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Speaker 4: that that was the easiest way, the best way to

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Speaker 4: probably dominate them. Even with all the questions that they've had,

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Speaker 4: They're not going to put an ordinate amount of pressure

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Speaker 4: on the quarterback or on the perimeter receivers before they

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Speaker 4: have to. So I have no doubt they're going to

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Speaker 4: ramp up his workload.

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Speaker 1: M I might have to grab this game. We haven't

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Speaker 1: assigned games yet for the early window. I am very

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Speaker 1: intrigued about Jaguars Bengals. Let's take one last break here

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. We're going to wrap the show with

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Speaker 1: Patrick Claibon's Team, My Team, and a spicy Monday night

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Speaker 1: doubleheader back on NFL Daily, wrapping up the AFC Week

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00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: two slate. Patrick always announces the broadcasters for each game, right,

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00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: but I see it. It's on the sheet, and it

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Speaker 1: just occurred to me looking at this CBS crew doing

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Speaker 1: Brown's Ravens, Tom McCarthy, our friend of the show, Ross Tucker,

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Speaker 1: he's been a guest, and Amanda ballyonis.

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Speaker 4: New friend of the show.

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Speaker 2: That is, who's a new friend of the show.

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Speaker 1: I was unaware of this, but one of our producers, Jason,

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Speaker 1: showed me an Instagram video she had put out on

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Speaker 1: her feed like a month ago. It was like a

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Speaker 1: day in the life, and she was hiking and she said,

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Speaker 1: now it's time to listen to my favorite NFL podcast,

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00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: and she just holds up NFL daily and even did

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Speaker 1: like the scroll thing where you actually saw the feed

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Speaker 1: of it. Shout out to Jpacosta. It was his episode

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Speaker 1: with me. So thank you, Amanda, wherever you are.

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Speaker 4: Are you upset that she followed me on Instagram and

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00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 4: not you?

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00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't as as long as she's listening to the show,

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00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: I'm that's all I know.

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Speaker 4: Whatever, thank you, Amanda, I see you.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, Amanda. You and Tom and Ross get

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00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: a chance to see the Cleveland Browns visit the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 3: who are an eleven and a half point favorite. This

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 3: Ravens team Jordan can beat anybody in the NFL. They

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Speaker 3: can also lose to anybody in the NFL. Its history

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00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: shows forty four and a half the over under. That's

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00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: a lot of points. But Baltimore did score a lot

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Speaker 3: of points against the Buffalo Bills. How do you think

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00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: they will perform against the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: I mean, anything kind of goes in these ones, right

1131
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 4: because I mean it's Ravens Browns, and the Browns defense

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00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: looked like the Browns defense, and I don't know that

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00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: the Ravens are going to be able to run the

1134
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: ball as effectively against the Browns defense as they were

1135
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: able to do against the Bills defense. I mean, how

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Speaker 4: are you kind of feeling about this? Are you getting

1137
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: little nervous?

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00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: Well? Yeah, I think in certain situations. Seeing the way

1139
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: that JayR Alexander was covering Josh Palmer towards the end

1140
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 3: of the game, and I know that both Tillman and

1141
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy had drops that led to Turner that ultimately

1142
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 3: cost the Cleveland Browns the game, and Joe Flacco played well.

1143
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: I think the Ravens front can get more pressure on

1144
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco than the Bengals did. But ultimately, yeah, I'm

1145
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 3: a fan who has seen a team have catastrophic collapses

1146
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: and losses, and so yeah, I come into this extremely

1147
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: exceedingly negative. But then I see Greg's confidence and it

1148
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: clears up the skies.

1149
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Speaker 1: It's not that high, but yes, I will take the

1150
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Speaker 1: Ravens as my survivor.

1151
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: Who mixed feelings.

1152
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: Now, I can't lose, because all you lose.

1153
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: What if I told you this? This is courtesy of

1154
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: Mike Sando and his Pick six column at The Athletic

1155
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: since two thousand, when leading by nine to sixteen points

1156
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Over the last four seasons, seven

1157
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: teams have done so twenty games total, thirteen losses. Baltimore

1158
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 4: accounts for six of them.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Yeah, this is what this team does. Have,

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Speaker 1: these catastrophic losses. Now, I wouldn't expect it two weeks

1161
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: in a row. But I do think the Browns played

1162
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: really well last week and they have a better chance

1163
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Speaker 1: to be competitive than people think. I don't like that

1164
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: eleven and a half. I don't like that it's a

1165
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: division matchup. I don't like the idea that the Ravens

1166
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Speaker 1: are going to try extra hard this week because they lost.

1167
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Speaker 1: That should be a segment, by the way, that should

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00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: maybe be a sponsored segment, Patrick's try extra Hard game

1169
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: of the Week, because the Ravens would be that team

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Speaker 1: this week if all of these teams actually really well.

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Speaker 3: Also, again I've told the story waves too many times

1172
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: on the pod. If you go to the facility in

1173
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 3: Owings Mills and you look around and you see Ray Lewis,

1174
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 3: you see jo you see all of these ed Rey

1175
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 3: photos of everybody that's contributed, and then you're like, oh,

1176
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Speaker 3: there's Joe Flacco. But it just so happens that Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco is standing behind Marshall Yanda in the picture. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco is the one that's getting revenge. I guess

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Speaker 3: the team that didn't want him.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Joe Flacco. I do think it's amazing.

1181
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: This is essentially a homecoming game for the Raven honoring

1182
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl championship team, and Joe Flacco just happens

1183
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: to be, you know, coming into town.

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Speaker 5: I got to play him a couple of years ago.

1185
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 5: But going back to Baltimore is definitely a little bit

1186
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 5: different story is It is somewhat surprising honestly that I've

1187
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 5: been going for a decent amount of time now, so

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00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 5: you know, the fact that I haven't had a chance

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00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 5: to go back is a little surprising. I think I'm

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Speaker 5: very capable, capable of just seeing it as another division game,

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Speaker 5: But it will be cool to go back in that stadium.

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Speaker 5: I haven't had a chance to do it since I've

1193
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: played there. I really love playing there. It's an awesome

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Speaker 5: place to play. It's an awesome venue, it's an awesome atmosphere.

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00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 5: They do a great job, so I love playing there.

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Speaker 5: So I think in that respect, it will be pretty

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Speaker 5: cool to go back.

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Speaker 4: For sure, this is not a revenge game. Do not

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Speaker 4: put on the internet that this is a revenge game.

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Speaker 3: Is he gonna go Rogers? And then after the game

1201
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, it was really good to beat the

1202
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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I think he genuinely likes the Ravens because they changed

1204
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: his life in one of the I think one of

1205
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: the top moments in NFL network history. I will never

1206
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: forget it, just because I happened to have been watching

1207
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Speaker 1: it live and I remember I wrote the article on

1208
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: NFL dot com about it, like reacting to it. That night,

1209
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: he sits on the tape you know, the dais with

1210
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: Rich Eisen and everyone after winning that Super Bowl. One

1211
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Speaker 1: of the very best playoff runs any quarterback has ever had,

1212
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Speaker 1: like without any qualifiers. Joe Flacco had that, and he

1213
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Speaker 1: had it in the middle of a contract run in

1214
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: his contract year, and he said, Steve Bashatti told me,

1215
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: if this happens, I can go pound on his desk

1216
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: and really stick it to him. And That's exactly what

1217
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. And I just remember being like, yes,

1218
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Speaker 1: you're feeling yourself. Joe Flacco right after the Super Bowl

1219
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: and he gave him like a market changing contract. He

1220
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: was probably like a thirteenth best quarterback in the league,

1221
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: and he was by far the highest paid quarterback.

1222
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Speaker 4: I love it, and he is not wrong. That is

1223
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 4: one of the coolest places to play in the entire NFL.

1224
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 4: It's one of the coolest home stadiums in their intros

1225
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: and how gothic it is, and especially night game when

1226
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 4: you know, when the sun goes down, like it just

1227
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 4: gets so much fun there. I love it. I Also

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Speaker 4: what I also love is, you know, there's a lot

1229
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 4: not to like about the Browns and how they've done

1230
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 4: business over the last couple of years, But in terms

1231
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: of this season and what it is, it's kind of,

1232
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: you know, just playing for the future and developing young players.

1233
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Speaker 4: And I know they want to be competitive. I'm not

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00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 4: ruling that out. Joe Flacco certainly wants to be competitive.

1235
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Speaker 4: But you've got to feel really good watching some of

1236
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: these young guys play this last week and their debuts

1237
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Greg and I talked about it a

1238
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: little bit earlier this week on a previous show.

1239
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Speaker 2: It just good omens.

1240
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: It gets a good omen it to me, it's like

1241
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: latch onto those guys, Watch those guys play and think

1242
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 4: about twenty twenty, twenty twenty six and what you can

1243
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: start to build out of this new core.

1244
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: You worried about the Ravens defense.

1245
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Nine guys last week specifically to this week played fifty

1246
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: eight snaps, some of them eighty to ninety snaps. They

1247
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: were on the field a lot. It's always on my raider.

1248
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Early in the season. You've got Chidobio Wuz starting over, Jyra,

1249
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Alexander and Diarrah.

1250
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: Case that's not even close.

1251
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: It's the right decision, right, Diarra Alexander really struggling the

1252
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: pass rush other than Madam Week just wasn't there. This

1253
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: is an easier matchup certainly in terms of their pass rush,

1254
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: and there was a lot.

1255
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 4: Of buzz that Mike Green was going to come in

1256
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 4: and make a difference off the edge, but you know,

1257
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: you just got to.

1258
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 3: See it a little concerning. Yeah, it is concerning. They

1259
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 3: won't be on the field as much. The rare only

1260
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 3: Ravens problem of having an offense that was too explosive,

1261
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 3: especially in the second half against the Buffalo Bills, where

1262
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: you would like to see more of a constrictor. Sean

1263
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: McVay type drive towards the end of a game to

1264
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: grind things out where I don't think the home run

1265
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: potentially against this Brown defense is as high as it

1266
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 3: is against Buffalo, which is like, oh, no, bad news.

1267
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it's good news. See if Baltimore can slowly move

1268
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: the ball, give those guys a break, A little bit

1269
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: of time off to our next AFC match up. The

1270
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: New England Patriots coming off a loss at home to

1271
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders. All the boys and all the

1272
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: girls are begging to play Miami. They are one and

1273
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: a half point favorites with an over under of forty

1274
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: four and a half. Andrew cattel On, Charles Davis, Jason mccordy,

1275
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: and aj Ross on the call, Greg, your squad gets

1276
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 3: a chance to bounce back against the team whose vibes

1277
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 3: are down horrendous?

1278
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, which team has the vibes down horrendous?

1279
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: Come on, go.

1280
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: To Foxborough, Go listen to Boston Sports Radio. I'll pass Greg,

1281
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: I will too, but I'm just imagining it there.

1282
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: See if I can get to it on my long

1283
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: long list of things. You know, I don't know, darn,

1284
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm not.

1285
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: Gonna I think if you were just ranking.

1286
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: Just based off Week one performance, the Patriots would have

1287
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: been one of the five worst teams in the NFL

1288
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: only they were the only team to give up more

1289
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: than five twenty plus yard plays. They gave up nine

1290
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: guys were wide open in the secondary. They decided to

1291
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: blitz a lot. Maybe that's gonna be their strategy. Seems

1292
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: like a bad one against Gino Smith, who flamed them

1293
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: last year. I know it's a different staff, but you

1294
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: know he knew exactly what was happening. Bus All over

1295
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: the back end, no one can really cover. Christian Gonzales

1296
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: does not look like he is going to play in

1297
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: this game because he missed on Wednesday. And then on

1298
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: the offensive side, it was a little more cohesive, but

1299
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Drake May did not look good like He certainly didn't

1300
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: look better than he was as a rookie. He looked

1301
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: rather jumpy. So it doesn't surprise me that the Dolphins

1302
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: are favored in this game. To me, it's just a

1303
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: toss up of two teams that I just don't know

1304
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: what we're going to get out of. One of them

1305
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: could pop up this week and just look much better.

1306
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: I just don't know. But to me, it seems equally

1307
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: like he likely that it's the Dolphins that pop up

1308
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: and look better yeah, than it is the Patriots, because

1309
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at least have some continuity and have been together.

1310
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1311
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 4: And I can just almost guarantee, especially because you know,

1312
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: the Miami defense did not look good. But I can

1313
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: almost guarantee the Anthony Weavers looking at what Patrick Graham

1314
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 4: did with that Raiders front. You make Drake may look

1315
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 4: frazzled and look castled. They were mixing up odd and

1316
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 4: even fronts. Patrick Graham does not play generally like a

1317
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: four to three, but they were mixing up, you know,

1318
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: presenting more even looks than maybe that they had done

1319
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: in the past. They were doing a lot of different

1320
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 4: types of zone coverages behind it. This is something where

1321
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 4: you look at that and all of these things the

1322
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 4: Dolphins defense is capable of doing. We have seen it

1323
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: despite the fact that they've lost some players, even you know, upfront,

1324
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 4: they actually got some guys back and healthy, so they

1325
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 4: should be able to at least, you know, make Drake

1326
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: may look confused, but it is kind of weird. It

1327
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: was weird seeing it because when I and I know

1328
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: I brought this up a lot to forgive me, but

1329
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 4: when I was at that those joint practices and they

1330
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: were going against a very confusing defense. They were using

1331
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 4: Trevon Henderson as an outlet. They were calming Drake May down,

1332
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 4: giving him a lot of options, giving him a lot

1333
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: of pressure beater options, giving him a lot of just

1334
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 4: things that settle a young quarterback. And then also you

1335
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: know they were raining him in intentionally to not use

1336
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: his legs at will. But if you're looking rattled like

1337
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: you've got to just at a certain point, I mean,

1338
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: what is it. You know he ran around four times

1339
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: this last game. You've got to at least like say, okay,

1340
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: if you're not feeling comfortable, go make some plays, Go

1341
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 4: make something happen.

1342
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: It's a trend.

1343
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: So I don't listen to Boston Sports Radio, but I

1344
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: do listen to Tom Kurrn, who's one of the best

1345
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: in the game.

1346
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: And a great accent, also the best.

1347
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Outstanding, and Greg Bodard, and they both they made he

1348
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: talked about on his podcast this week. They made a

1349
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: comment like Drake May has been so accurate and so

1350
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: calm and so good in every practice that they've watched,

1351
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: just about and literally every time so far, and this

1352
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: includes a preseason. I watch all the steps that you know,

1353
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: there's been a scoreboard in referees. He's just throwing the

1354
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: ball all over the place. Now, whether that's a coincidence

1355
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: or not, it is a fact that he's kind of

1356
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: been throwing the ball all over the place in terms

1357
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: of his accuracy and his comfort in the pocket. And

1358
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: they're not sure what to make of that really, other

1359
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: than they just think this offseason it has been a

1360
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: trend and may even alluded to it that he's been

1361
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: a little hyped up for these games at the beginning

1362
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: and these sailing passes. But you know, you would think

1363
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: he would maybe settle into the game. If anything, it

1364
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: got worse as last week went on. Doesn't mean he's

1365
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: not going to get out of it, but right now

1366
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: he's in that mode.

1367
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: But and I think Josh mcdaniels's reputation is to make

1368
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: things harder on the quarterback even when things are stressful,

1369
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 4: And so what if, hey, here's a concept, What if

1370
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 4: you didn't do that. What if you make things easier

1371
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 4: on the quarterback when you see things get stressful or

1372
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 4: too much maybe for the quarterback to handle as capable

1373
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: as Drake may has been, and that's very true, how

1374
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 4: calm and like truly collected and just sort of like, Okay,

1375
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: I don't have that option. I'm going to go here,

1376
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 4: or I'm going to take it and run or whatever,

1377
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 4: and very very poised. If you're not feeling that way,

1378
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 4: don't stick and do the same things that you started

1379
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 4: the game with. Make things easier, get the quarterback to

1380
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 4: settle in, run the ball, you know, these types of

1381
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: things that would really help.

1382
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: I think the run games stunk, and if it stinks,

1383
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: they're not going to be a good team.

1384
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: And I think like your tendency to feel like, well, yeah,

1385
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: Drake's got it, the problem might be everywhere else. I

1386
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 3: don't think that's bias for you to feel that way.

1387
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: I think the problems maybe more surrounding Drake may especially

1388
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 3: on the sideline. Then Drake may himself like being in

1389
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 3: these situations. And I think the spot here is a

1390
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: spot where you can feel comfortable that things are going

1391
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: to go just fine, because if you think that the

1392
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: Fins are going to speed him up and blitz, especially

1393
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 3: after last week when when Dimes was very very comfortable,

1394
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: they're one of the like in the bottom half of

1395
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: the league in blitz rate and success rate win blitzing today,

1396
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't think that's in the bag at all for them, Like,

1397
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: I really don't think that that is a part of

1398
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: the tools that they can utilize against Drake may So

1399
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: as a Gill healthy.

1400
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: Game for you, I don't know, because the I think

1401
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: if there's the biggest weakness, and there are a few

1402
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: on this Patriots team, it's like linebacker and the back

1403
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: end with cornerback, and then it's the offensive line until

1404
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: proven otherwise. And I think the number one strength of

1405
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: this dolpheninse team in theory is their pass rush, and

1406
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,959
Speaker 1: they were okay last week, but Danny Dimes was getting

1407
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: it out so fast. His time to throw was just

1408
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: like they had answers and everything was getting out out fast, fast, fast,

1409
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: So I think that could be a mispatch on the

1410
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: other side, though, Look, Milton Williams had a nice game,

1411
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: Harrod Landry had a nice game.

1412
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 2: They've got some players, certainly upfront.

1413
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins lost two starting offensive linemen right off

1414
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: the bat this season, or at least Austin Jackson's not

1415
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: there yet, and then they lost James Daniel to an injury,

1416
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: and then their rookie Jonah savonaa who supposedly they swiped

1417
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: from the Patriots and then the Patriots ended up with

1418
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: Travon Henderson instead. He's really been struggling seven as so

1419
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: that's just something to keep an eye on. Also something

1420
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on is a comment from Brian McCarthy,

1421
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: official PR spokesman for the NFL. We mentioned Tyreek Hill's

1422
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: latest domestic violence allegations, which is part of a divorce

1423
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: proceedings that TMZ obtained and those results are sealed, but

1424
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: the Associated Press has written about it as well, and

1425
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: they're out there and you can find specifically what they were.

1426
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: We went over it on Monday night. But he just

1427
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: says it's standard policy for the league to review a

1428
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: matter such as this. So at this point, as far

1429
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: as we know, Tyreek Hill is going to be available

1430
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: for this game, But stay tuned.

1431
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 3: Let's go to the next matchup. It is a Houston

1432
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: Texans team that lost in Sofar Stadium, playing host to

1433
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, fresh off of

1434
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: shutting down the Falcons run game and getting a closing

1435
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 3: seconds win thanks to the efforts of a Mecca A

1436
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: Buka forty two and a half is the number. Texans

1437
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 3: again favored by three Chris Fowler, Dani Rolowski, Lewis Riddick,

1438
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: Katie George, and our friend Peter Schreeger on the call

1439
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: as well. Jordan, this Texans team went through a lot

1440
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 3: and now they get to give a lot to Baker Mayfield.

1441
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 3: How do you feel about their options at home?

1442
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay, so two things. One, I feel like this has

1443
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 4: the potential to be a blood and guts Baker Mayfield

1444
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 4: type of game because in watching this Houston Texans defense

1445
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 4: in person, they're hitting guys, they're hitting and they look awesome.

1446
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 4: And I mean, holding the Rams to fourteen points in

1447
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: an opener in a McVeigh opener is kind of a

1448
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: big deal, despite the fact that they the Texans offense,

1449
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 4: got as much as they gave and were limited themselves.

1450
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: That defense. They are aggressive, they are physical, They pressured,

1451
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 4: They pressured Stafford. I mean he was hit three times.

1452
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 4: One of them was kind of a weird bad snap

1453
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: and he had to run back and get the ball

1454
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: and all that. They pressured him quite a bit, especially

1455
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: off that right side and especially when the guards came

1456
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 4: out and got him in the interior and so I

1457
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 4: think that when you're going up against kind of a

1458
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 4: magical moment for this revamped Bucks offensive line, which we

1459
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 4: didn't really talk about too much because it was kind

1460
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 4: of a surprise. I missed that, and I will tell

1461
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: you like it was a total surprise. So obviously we

1462
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 4: know they're missing Tristan Wurfs and they will be for

1463
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: another couple of weeks. But Todd Bowles pulled a fast

1464
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: one off of what he was watching in practice when

1465
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: they decided to move Graham Barton to left tackle from center,

1466
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 4: and they tried him out for a couple of snaps

1467
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 4: in practice like four four days ago, four days before

1468
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: the opener, and then Todd Bowles was like, hey, that

1469
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 4: looks pretty good. We should try that full time. So

1470
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 4: then they moved him full time to left tackle from center.

1471
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 4: Ben Brettison kicked inside from left guard to center. Michael

1472
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 4: Jordan not that one a late summer edition elevated from

1473
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 4: the practice squad, then played left guard and they fared okay,

1474
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 4: they fared pretty pretty well good, not great. A lot

1475
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: of pressure, not a lot of hits on Baker, but

1476
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 4: a lot of pressure. It's like going against like a

1477
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 4: bona fide defensive line, you know, and one that's proven.

1478
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 4: The Falcons did get fifteen pressures, but this is a

1479
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 4: very different This is a very different beast here with Houston.

1480
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: I think you really saw it in the run game.

1481
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw those pressures, but the run game

1482
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: was disjointed, and it reminded me so much of the

1483
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: way last year started for the Bucks, which if you remember,

1484
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: they were one of the worst running teams in the

1485
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: league for about a month and then suddenly they were

1486
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 1: like poetry in motion, like everything was clicking and Bucky

1487
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: Irving is off to the races, and they were extremely disjointed.

1488
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: Like it's just something you can see with your eyes

1489
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: that they weren't all on the same page. It seemed

1490
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: like one player was like blowing the block all the time.

1491
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: They like they were working so hard against the Atlanta Falcons,

1492
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: it does make you wonder how this week is going

1493
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: to go against Texans. There was a sixteen play drive.

1494
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: This always cracks me up that they had to kick

1495
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: a forty seven yard field.

1496
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: Goal and there was nothing there.

1497
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: Whenever that happens, it's usually because you have a bunch

1498
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: of penalties that you had to back up Nope. There

1499
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: was one five yard penalty early in the drive. It

1500
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: wasn't about that. It took ten plays to get to

1501
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: the fifty. It took another like six to get to

1502
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: the thirty. And it was just like that and that

1503
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: that's not normal for this Bucks offense. So I think,

1504
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe Todd Bowles was really hooting and hollering

1505
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 1: because he knows he stole one at a time of

1506
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: year where maybe they're just figuring some things out.

1507
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 3: It was almost three seconds for Baker Mayfield to throw. Yeah,

1508
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: two point nine to five second time to throw against

1509
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: the Falcons rushion and all that they've done. It's not

1510
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,839
Speaker 3: going to be three seconds against Texans, right the Houston Texans,

1511
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 3: it's not. So whatever changes that they made late, especially

1512
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 3: Baker hitting a Mecca Buka for that, I don't think

1513
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 3: the wide open opportunities will be there, but perhaps a

1514
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: chance to get more consistent in the ground game and

1515
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 3: to adjust to the changes that they surprisingly made up

1516
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 3: front right before the game started.

1517
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 4: And we know on the other side that Todd Bowles

1518
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 4: is just going to pressure the crap out of you know,

1519
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 4: c J.

1520
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 2: Stroud, He's the same issue really out on either side.

1521
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 4: He's really going to do everything he can. You know,

1522
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 4: there were some bright spots I think with how c. J.

1523
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 4: Stroud specifically and some of the scheme we mentioned it

1524
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 4: earlier in the show handled some of the pressure, baiting

1525
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 4: the rushers and all of that. That's not always going

1526
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 4: to work against the Todd Bowles defense, especially if they're

1527
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 4: bringing extra pressure, they're bringing blitzes, things like that. I

1528
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: think that the Texans can run the ball. I mean,

1529
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb looked really look good over fifty percent success right,

1530
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 4: four point six yards per carry, and they didn't you

1531
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 4: could argue they didn't run it enough like they they looked,

1532
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 4: and Nick Chubb looked really solid running the ball.

1533
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: I get four unique combinations of offensive linemen. By the way,

1534
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 3: did Nick Chubb look good? Like the Texas to be

1535
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: having these problems already? Then, despite that Chubb being successful, I.

1536
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Can hear like all the Claymates out there after Jordan

1537
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: points out Chubb, He's like.

1538
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: Patrick said that we could go. He said he was

1539
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:26,839
Speaker 2: gonna look good.

1540
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 4: And as they should. They should have pointed.

1541
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: The Claymates are absolutely they're both me by the way. Essentially, Yeah,

1542
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: these two teams are kind of mirror images of each

1543
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: other because I was wondering, why did Cam Robinson start

1544
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: again at left tackle? That was a total flip of

1545
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: everything that we heard, But it was because of an

1546
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: injury at guard, and then they wanted to move Titus

1547
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: Howard inside, so then they moved Ursery where he wasn't

1548
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: at to right tackle and Robinson over the left. Then

1549
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: their center got hurt. Then I think a guard got hurt,

1550
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: and so it's like all jumbled up, and yeah, that's

1551
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,120
Speaker 1: concerning for the tech.

1552
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 4: Pam Robinson came back in, but Jake Andrews, the center,

1553
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 4: did not come back in. So that's something definitely to watch,

1554
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 4: especially with that interior pressure that the Bucks like to bring.

1555
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: One last quick point on this game is just I

1556
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: think the old Antoine Winfield is back. One of the

1557
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: biggest reasons why the Bucks defense was not as good

1558
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: last year as he was the year before was because

1559
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: of Antoine Winfield. And he had a play at the

1560
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: end of that Falcons game where he absolutely lit up

1561
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: Casey Washington, the Falcons receiver, and it was the second

1562
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: to last play of that drive, and it reminded me

1563
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: so much of the game winning plays near the goal

1564
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: line that he made throughout that bucks running and.

1565
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 3: He almost made one of those against Pinnocks where he

1566
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 3: was out of bounds but he had stolen the ball

1567
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 3: and was running the other way, and it's like, oh, well,

1568
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 3: here goes Winfield Junior again, game wrecking.

1569
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 4: Right in the end, they don't call him Antoine Lusefield.

1570
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: Guys, she was just waiting for that one.

1571
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 4: You could see me shaking my pen as excited.

1572
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 3: Let's get to our final game if our NFC preview

1573
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 3: as excuse me as the AFC preview as the Las

1574
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders get a chance to be at home in

1575
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 3: Las Vegas where they are getting points three and a

1576
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: half points against the one to zero division leading Los

1577
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 3: Angeles Chargers and their quarterback Justin Herbert. It is Monday

1578
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: Night Football. Joe Buck, Troy Yickman, Lisa Salters and Laura

1579
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 3: Rutledge on the call. Greg, do the Chargers push to

1580
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 3: a commanding lead in the West.

1581
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: I'll pick them to win. I'll probably pick them to

1582
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: win by more than three and a half. It's just

1583
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders defense. I want to see it more. I

1584
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,879
Speaker 1: was amazed. I mean, they played really well.

1585
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: So much better than I think people expected them to

1586
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 4: look and they talked about it postgame. They were very vocal.

1587
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 4: They know what the expectation or lack thereof was, and

1588
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 4: it's like, it's scheme and effort, and that's Patrick Graham

1589
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: and Pete Carroll together, a balance of scheme and effort,

1590
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: and that's what you need because you have a deficit

1591
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 4: of talent on that side.

1592
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: Right And I think that can go a long way,

1593
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: and it means they can overachieve compared to expectation. But

1594
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: we've only seen them matchup with one offense so far,

1595
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: and it was an offense that was really disjointed. So

1596
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm as surprised as anyone that Devin White and Jamal

1597
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 1: Adams absolutely were difference makers for a defense in twenty

1598
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty five last week, and so was Jermaine Pratt, like

1599
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 1: they were all They all were out there making plays.

1600
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: This will be a much tougher test against a charters

1601
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: offense that maybe for the first time in the Herbert era,

1602
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: but definitely for the most in the last few years,

1603
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: like looks deep in terms of the amount of ways

1604
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: they can beat you through the air and I think

1605
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: eventually on the ground, but at least the diversity of

1606
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 1: the type of players that Herbert is throwing to. Year

1607
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: three Quinton Johnston is not year one and two Quinton

1608
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: Johnson and Keenan Allen. This year is not Chicago Bears

1609
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, Like he's like.

1610
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,440
Speaker 4: I saw the other side and I dislike it.

1611
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: And you have these rookies just like kind of waiting

1612
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: on the bench are who are interesting too.

1613
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: It's late Lad mcconkey's yar too. It's it's a nice group.

1614
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 3: And it also felt like in the old and again

1615
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 3: it was the opener against the Chiefs, but twenty twenty

1616
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: five is Greg Roman. Isn't Greg Roman down We're so

1617
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: pass heavy and and I think that's a that's a

1618
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: credit to Greg Roman because like we don't get that

1619
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 3: version of Quentin Johnston, like we don't get Lad being

1620
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 3: very creative in terms like Lad was out there setting picks,

1621
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 3: like it's like the team's far and away number one

1622
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: is grinding so other guys can get open and colluding

1623
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 3: a guy who's been getting maligned all the time. Like

1624
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: I loved it. I love the Chargers offense in the opener.

1625
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and their run past balance, especially early in

1626
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 4: the down is like skewing now toward pass, which is crazy.

1627
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 4: And and even when they ran Omrion Hampton look good.

1628
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 4: They need to they need to, you know, run the

1629
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 4: ball a little bit more efficiently, a little bit better.

1630
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 4: But but they looked really good in both phases. They

1631
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 4: look more balanced. To me, they're letting justin Herbert kind

1632
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: of like, I think, just grow into himself a little

1633
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: bit more of what we know he can be and

1634
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 4: kind of build that confidence, do a little bit of

1635
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: that spice.

1636
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: He was really feeling himself. Yeah, like the slide with

1637
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 3: it was various at the end of the game, and

1638
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: the fade away throwback across the field with Quentin Johnson

1639
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: on that touchdown pass, like Herbo was feeling it.

1640
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 1: He's in like a celebrity relationship. Now he's literally in

1641
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: first place. Like when have the Chargers ever been in

1642
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: first place even for a week. I can't remember the

1643
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: last time there was this much optimism about the Chargers.

1644
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: And now I feel terrible about saying they're going to

1645
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: cover three and a half, because like, that's the that's

1646
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,720
Speaker 1: the moment. If you're a Chargers fan, which I'm not

1647
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: like a fan, but I'm definitely rooting for good things

1648
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: for Herbo. That's the moment where it gets taken away

1649
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: from you.

1650
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 4: I just I think that one of the things I

1651
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 4: was most impressed with was even when they lost Rashaun

1652
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 4: Slater and then Joe Alt moved over to the left side,

1653
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 4: he looked incredible.

1654
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1655
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,919
Speaker 4: I mean he looks like he's never going to relinquish

1656
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 4: that spotting. All right, yeah, tackle that's over, yeah all yeah,

1657
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: or all right, delete opposing edge russer rushers. And that's

1658
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 4: that's tough because Max Crosby is kind of in a

1659
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: solo shows for now. We'll see if someone else emerges

1660
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 4: along that defensive line, but like it's going to be

1661
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 4: basically Max Crosby trying to make something happen and Joe

1662
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 4: All plus a cast that looked really impressive, that blocked

1663
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 4: really well, a lot of really big skill guys chipping

1664
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: all the time and making some of the heavier layers

1665
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 4: when they want to go heavy pass or when they

1666
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 4: want to go heavy run come to life. I was really,

1667
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 4: like I said, I was really impressed with this Raiders defense.

1668
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 4: But to me, I think it's the points game. I do.

1669
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 4: I think it's points game because Gino is playing.

1670
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: Like Gno looks extremely comfortable too, so like Gino, these

1671
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: are two of the best quarterback performances of Week one.

1672
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 1: I know he had that interception, but he is not

1673
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: afraid to make the tough throw. He has seen the

1674
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: field well. For him to do it one week into

1675
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: being with Chip Kelly is really promising. And if I

1676
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: had one concern about the Chargers in this matchup, it

1677
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: is their pass rush.

1678
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1679
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: I know Bosa wasn't healthy last year, but Mac and

1680
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: that group overall interior on the edge, I think they're

1681
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: hoping to be average. I don't think they're going to

1682
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: be above average. I think in Week one they weren't great.

1683
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: So I think that's if you give Geno time, he's

1684
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: gonna cook it.

1685
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: Some of that was Mahomes, though. There was a play

1686
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: where Khalil Mack won instantaneously and was chasing Mahomes, who

1687
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 3: makes this back cross body throw to Hollywood Brown where

1688
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: it's like.

1689
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some of that if I'm watching that,

1690
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 4: some of that, I think they're trying not to, like

1691
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 4: I mentioned before, overrush on a Mahomes who's just gonna

1692
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,719
Speaker 4: flush and escape and then make something insane happen downfield.

1693
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: This will be a bigger and you know Gino can move,

1694
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 4: but you know he's not Patrick Mahomes in terms of

1695
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 4: making those like I'm parallel to the ground and still

1696
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 4: somehow throwing the ball down the field kind of throws.

1697
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 4: The thing that I'm worrying about is brock Bowers because

1698
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 4: he told Tom Pelisarro at the game that he is fine.

1699
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 4: He banged up his knee. He told him he was fine.

1700
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll you can check this right now, Greg if

1701
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 4: you're able to. But Pete Carroll has said earlier this

1702
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 4: week that he's day to day. This is something where

1703
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 4: their offense runs through this guy, and as it should.

1704
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 4: He's incredible. He's playing incredibly like he's picking up right

1705
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 4: where he left off. Just something, a little something to

1706
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: keep an eye on.

1707
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get an extra day to recover, so their

1708
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: Wednesday is an actual Thursday. We are taping these preview

1709
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: shows on Thursday, so especially with the Monday night games.

1710
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: But it's true, really, of all of them, you got

1711
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: to keep you on top of the injury situations because he,

1712
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: other than Gino, is the most important. Yeah, I mean,

1713
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: he's the most important player I think in the entire franchise.

1714
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 2: He really is.

1715
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: And this is one with Max Crosby, but I would

1716
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: put Brock ahead of him. So they need him out

1717
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: there because everything kind of feeds off of him. Suddenly

1718
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: Michael Mayer is open. I really liked what I saw

1719
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: of Trey Tucker. I've always liked him, but in a

1720
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: week when he's getting better, it's your two brock Bowers.

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Speaker 1: They Oh, this is fun. I love that they got

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Speaker 1: They're both undefeated too. They could have easily both been

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01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: zero to one. But this is a Monday Night capper

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01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: with Joe Buck. This has to be one of the

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Speaker 1: bigger Raiders games. Yeah, since the Raiders Chargers game where

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01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: Derek Carr ripped out Justin Herbert's.

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Speaker 2: So that was the back and forth to both of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and and Justin Herbert played like, oh, he's never

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01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: played well in a big game. That was one of

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01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: the best games of his career. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: Charges defense couldn't hold it on for him.

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Speaker 4: I'll be there Monday night for the athletic and I

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01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 4: texted Greg earlier this week and I asked him if

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01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 4: he was jealous I was going to go see Gino

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Speaker 4: play in person.

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Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm not mad. Don't put in the

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01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: paper that I'm mad. What a show. Love it.

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Speaker 1: So we're we're all done with the AFC, but we're

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01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: not done here just yet. We wanted to find a

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Speaker 1: way to cover each one of your teams even more so,

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Speaker 1: like we are going deeper on these previews, all the

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01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: NFC teams that are playing in home games this week.

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Speaker 2: It is in your feed.

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01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: We have our NFC preview also up and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: because if you, if you give us a chance to

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: just like honk a little more, throw, throw a few

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: more puns. I think our puns per minute ratio is

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Speaker 1: just like I know through the roof right now, I.

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Speaker 4: Had a brock Bowers one. I'll save it.

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Speaker 1: Though, Okay, tune in next week or even Sunday night

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Speaker 1: when when you join us again for the recap show

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01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: brock Bowers pun. But for now, just hang tight and

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Speaker 1: go check out the rest of the preview with the

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Speaker 1: NFC