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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast drinks Lacroix like a little Welcome,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in today's day and age too, especially inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hans As I am joined in

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesley, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up you little bit? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: Now we gotta beat you out. It's not so much

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Speaker 1: the drinking of that product. It's just that that you

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Speaker 1: one or whatever. That's like even a smaller bottle than

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Speaker 1: the scale of one to one. How orchestral it is

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Speaker 1: it to have a little tiny straw in your little

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Speaker 1: Are you asking me if it's a manufactured joke. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's that funny joke. I mean it just

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Speaker 1: seems like something that you I do use paper shows

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Speaker 1: now an I'm looking a plastic one right now. Well

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Speaker 1: that's Starbucks that's on that. But today's show, forget about

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Speaker 1: all that who cares about that? That's just how I drink.

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Speaker 1: Let's slide off that topic. We have things to talk

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Speaker 1: about the NFL. It keeps moving as we close in

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Speaker 1: on the super Bowl. It is less than a month away, um,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to the next round of the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: the divisional round on tomorrow's show. But today's show, our

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Speaker 1: Wednesday show, we will be focusing on the coaches Carausel

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Speaker 1: because Greg, it was a little quiet, you know, entering uh,

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Speaker 1: almost as if all the agents and the executives said,

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Speaker 1: let's set up their Wednesday podcast perfectly by dropping all

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Speaker 1: that news right before it. Yes, so we as you know,

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Speaker 1: there are eight job openings, or there were. They are

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Speaker 1: filling up fast and furious. In fact, they think there's

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Speaker 1: just although some things you still have to cross, the

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Speaker 1: only done to three teams, really, Greg, that we don't

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Speaker 1: know who their head coach would be. So we're getting there.

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Speaker 1: And Mark, I thought it was too my off the Bungles,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Jets. Are you right, You're essentially

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Speaker 1: not Mark budd He forgets about the bengk Yes, you

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Speaker 1: ready to get into because we're gonna start with your team.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. Because the Cleveland Browns just this morning

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Speaker 1: made it official they will promote Freddie Kitchens. They like

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Speaker 1: him around. They promote Freddie from offensive coordinator to head coach. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And because you can't just especially with the personality Bob,

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Speaker 1: you can't have Greg Williams ascend to head coach and

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Speaker 1: to be an underling again. They say bye, Greg, good

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Speaker 1: bad day for the triple Jeeves Greg. Greg Williams, after

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Speaker 1: all he did for the Browns in the second half

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Speaker 1: of the season, gets his walking papers. But it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: But let's focus for now on Freddie Kitchens. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: because you would. You were calling for this for weeks

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's never really been since, and it's so depressing.

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Speaker 1: But you can't quote. You can't make this decision based

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Speaker 1: That's a totally blind higher by the Cardinals. That may

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Speaker 1: It is tough to keep a job in the NFL

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Speaker 1: It's not like he's a total overnight story. He's been

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Speaker 1: it's funny because Greg Williams will absolutely, in my mind,

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Speaker 1: John Elway went defense and sort of win against the

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Speaker 1: and take over the offense and they'll be fine. But

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Speaker 1: John Elway knows that, and once continue you to sort

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Speaker 1: and let that relationship and not a small thing. If

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Speaker 1: a few years. You're not gonna be changing an offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Did the concern I think with Kingsbury specifically though, is

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Speaker 1: his staff? So what kind of staff is he gonna

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Speaker 1: put together. Sean McVeigh had been in the NFL, had connections,

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Speaker 1: you know, even Matt Lafleur has been in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Kingsbury does put together a great staff. There's rumors

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Speaker 1: he might hire the Texas State coach as his offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: That's not as big a higher. We haven't heard about

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Speaker 1: who he's gonna bring in, but he's he's causing a

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Speaker 1: lot of excitement. I was pretty impressed that the Arizona Cardinals, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, changed all their Twitter names to Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on the Arizona job before we move out.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's I believe Cliff is four years older than

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Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, so another very young Clary nine and younger

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Speaker 1: than I. I do have another thought, just his agents great,

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Speaker 1: whoever he is. I mean, the second he lost his

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Speaker 1: job at Tech talk every age. Maybe it's just maybe

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury is just great at work in the media at

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Speaker 1: The second he was fired from Texas Tech, there were

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Speaker 1: a number of media insiders who said, wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: if he got some O C head coaching looks, and

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Speaker 1: he did. They were absolutely right. He takes that USC job,

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Speaker 1: and you have Miniche Meta in New York stumping saying

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Speaker 1: we need this guy. You're hearing rumors at the Patriots

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Speaker 1: might hire Cliff Kingsbury if McDaniels leaves. That's definitely coming

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Speaker 1: from an agent I mean place, and that there's just

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Speaker 1: this huge groundswell of like everyone wants this guy. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe he really deserves all the all the attention, but

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Speaker 1: he's getting represented well. Final on Arizona, all of those

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches I mentioned who turned around the program immediately

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of help from the GM in

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Speaker 1: the first year on the job. Less Sneat rebuilt the Rams,

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Speaker 1: with the Colts. So the Cardinals need to go out

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Speaker 1: and aggressively rebuild a baron roster. It's a great division.

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Speaker 1: Just NFC West games are gonna be fun between Shanahan

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Speaker 1: And I would also say a lot of buzz after

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Speaker 1: these hires that the NFC West has some of the

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Speaker 1: He's in great shape, like age age and looks. Carol

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Speaker 1: wins that in a landslide. Let's see what John McVeigh

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Speaker 1: looks like thirty years from now. Cut that out. Good luck,

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Speaker 1: U S E L Very good. It's a tricky one.

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Speaker 1: Matt Le Fleur has a job, and it's a good one.

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Speaker 1: The Packers agree to a four year contract with the

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Speaker 1: It's a four year contract um greg with a fifth

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Speaker 1: uh is my in who had to deal with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that was never healthy last year in Tennessee. But

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Speaker 1: the offense got better, especially when Derrick Henry started having

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Speaker 1: a bigger role. You like this higher for Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I like that Aaron Rodgers with a different offensive head coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean it could have been literally anyone know, because

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Speaker 1: where I would kind of you know, have a stronger opinion.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like la Fleur in his one year

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. I'm gonna praise him or kill him too much.

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Speaker 1: He is certainly a guy that's respected around the league.

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Speaker 1: He impressed the Packers in this interview. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: do a second interview, despite a pretty wide group of

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Speaker 1: interesting candidates that they interviewed in Green Bay. And I

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Speaker 1: love that he It sounds like we don't know for sure,

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Speaker 1: but it sounds like he's keeping Mike Petton and most,

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Speaker 1: if not all, of the defensive state move and I

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Speaker 1: think is a huge part of the equation. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: just excited to see what he does. I mean, it

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00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: shows how quickly things can change in the NFL. That

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Speaker 1: he essentially lost his job as a quarterbacks coach with

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Speaker 1: the Falcons two years ago. He wanted to stay there.

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Speaker 1: McVeigh ended up kind of giving him a lifeline. They

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Speaker 1: worked together in Washington. Goes to be the coordinator there,

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Speaker 1: and here he is now as a head coach of

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Speaker 1: one of the best, most storied France as the league,

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Speaker 1: with the best quarterback in the league. He's a mystery

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Speaker 1: and and we'll find out how much he's absorbed from

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Speaker 1: being next to some of the greatest minds on offense

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of decades. Sean McVeigh, he was

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Speaker 1: with him in Los Angeles, but McVeigh was in golf's

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Speaker 1: ear before the whistle and der when the defense had

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Speaker 1: the ball, McVeigh was running the offense. So how much

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Speaker 1: was la flour doing there? He was with Kyle Shannon

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Speaker 1: when Matt Ryan was an m v P and the

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Speaker 1: Falcons went to the Super Bowl, and like you said,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't even brought back as quarterbacks coach. How much

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Speaker 1: was that was that after Shanahan? But to be fair,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't calling the play Shannahan was. And then he

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Speaker 1: gets to Tennessee. His starting quarterback has an injury that

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Speaker 1: affects the way he throws the ball, and his backup

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Speaker 1: plays in quite a few games, and yet in three

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Speaker 1: or four games with the Titans this year. Mine it's

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Speaker 1: for this coaching staff is coaching it's ass off with

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Speaker 1: very little talent. So I'm intrigued by I just don't

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Speaker 1: know quite who Matt Laflora. He was put in a

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Speaker 1: tough situation, obviously with Marcus Mariotta's shoulder when dealing with

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Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert half the season. My one thing with this

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Speaker 1: job specifically, you could argue and many have, that it's

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Speaker 1: the best opening and the presence of Aaron Rodgers gives

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Speaker 1: you a chance for immediate success. But the last two

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Speaker 1: seasons show us that the Packers have issues beyond Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: and there is this notion that's, you know, you fixed

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Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy part of it. The next coach should

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Speaker 1: just take Green Bay right back to where we thought

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Speaker 1: they were this NFC title game and the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and finally deliver on Aaron Rodgers potential. It's like there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure and I don't think this is

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl team right now. I think there's talent,

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Speaker 1: though I think there's more talent than maybe any of

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Speaker 1: the other vacancies. It's certainly up there. I think Patt

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Speaker 1: needs to do a better job. I mean, they had

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Speaker 1: a ton of enterge and injuries, but ultimately the defense

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Speaker 1: wasn't any better than it was under Dom Capers. I

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Speaker 1: feel like the football gonna sent the will stop making

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Speaker 1: assumptions about the Packers after the last two years. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think there will be an assumption going

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Speaker 1: to next year, Oh, they'll be definitely in the mix

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Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl because I think they've now proven

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Speaker 1: I think say that every year. But I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I think that there's worked. I mean that offense. Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, I think there's just twelve teams

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Speaker 1: that are twelve fifteen teams before the season. They have

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Speaker 1: a chance. And if you have Aaron Rodgers and in

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Speaker 1: some talent, and they've got some, there's a difference, been

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Speaker 1: a chance of being a favorite. But I I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they should. It would be wrong, I thing

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Speaker 1: to install them his favorite. Again, what we saw a

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Speaker 1: good division and they need to improve around Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: I think from a personnel standpoint, one thing that we

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Speaker 1: saw in the last probably half decade of Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: was an inability to find a consistent running game and

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Speaker 1: it was just like, we're gonna put all this on

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, Matt Lafleur comes from that rollout offense

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Speaker 1: where everything's based on boot action and play action. Those

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Speaker 1: are the guys he knows. And then you saw him

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Speaker 1: midway through the year in Tennessee put the offense on

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry when he needed to. And I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see a lot more Aaron Jones in Green Bay One.

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Speaker 1: One final note. Every time Greg speaks in our studio

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Speaker 1: it was the toughest play caller and coordinator to go against.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't necessarily the greatest, that like running an entire

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Speaker 1: team and being a general manager, but he is one

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Speaker 1: of the greats. There will be a black sheep in

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Speaker 1: the sponge. They're not all going to serve. But I

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Speaker 1: just mean that he his influence in his offensive style.

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Speaker 1: I think time has borne out how influential it is. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So those are the five teams that have a new

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Speaker 1: head coach in place. Let's spend through quickly with three

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Speaker 1: teams that are not um connected to a head coach

648
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Speaker 1: at this point. We'll start with the Jets because Mike

649
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Speaker 1: McCarthy is the former coach of the Packers. And we

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Speaker 1: said it might have been what we refer internally as

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Speaker 1: agent porn, but it came out yesterday. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: any what as I porn, Asian porn. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: anyone say that what you said, we refer to that

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Speaker 1: internally as agent porn. I think you texted that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I texted, okay, but that was about Cliff Kingsbury. Ye

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Speaker 1: did you notice how I noticed that you texted that,

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Speaker 1: but Greg clearly scanned over whatever you if I'm learning that.

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Speaker 1: Greg did respond, but I think Greg was just like

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Speaker 1: I'm going to respond, Yeah, Dad's just during the pot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know me yet, but all

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Speaker 1: my memory lasts about forty five minutes after that. Why

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Speaker 1: is that? By the way, is there a reason why

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Speaker 1: the memory? Maybe? Isn't there a short term? I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're not an old man. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: that is a fair question. I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: fair question. It's been like that my whole life, my mom.

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Speaker 1: There's no outside. I just try to like it. Here's

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Speaker 1: what Here's what matters to me is my relationships and

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Speaker 1: the moment around me. And I have nothing left in

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Speaker 1: my brain for anything else. That's a man living in

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Speaker 1: the presence. Mark a quick, a quick explanation before I

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Speaker 1: get into it. What is agent porn? Not Asian porn?

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Speaker 1: Agent porn? In this case, it was not Kingsbury the general?

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Speaker 1: What is what is it to you? To me? What

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Speaker 1: is agent? What I sent to you, guys was a

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Speaker 1: text where or a tweet where. A certain candidate, in

677
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Speaker 1: this case, Cliff Kingsbury, was lit raised up to such

678
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Speaker 1: heightened levels, and the words used were so flowery about

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Speaker 1: someone that's never won NFL game that I thought that

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Speaker 1: there was um a servicing of someone's agent going on

681
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Speaker 1: in that ancient porn. We see that the record show

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Speaker 1: I responded first to you did, but then it just

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Speaker 1: disappeared like a goldfish just forgot the phrase. I forgot

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Speaker 1: the phrase um. Anyway, ESPN reported on Tuesday night that

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy isn't pursuing any other head coaching job than

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Speaker 1: the Jets opening, which just seemed to me like a

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Speaker 1: nice little neat repositioning, uh for Mike McCarthy as people

688
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: to remind the Jets, hey, we love your baby, and also, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't even want any other job. Even though Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy didn't seem to have a lot of interviews lined

691
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Speaker 1: up the other jobs, they're all taken except for the

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Speaker 1: defensive Bengals, who he was not involved. It makes the

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Speaker 1: messaging makes Mike McCarthy look like a completely focused individual

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Speaker 1: who knows what he wants and give it to him,

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Speaker 1: but the reality is a little different. That could be

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Speaker 1: dead wrong about this, but this has been one of

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Speaker 1: the most easy to see through plans as far as

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Speaker 1: getting somebody hired, tell everyone that you don't really need

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Speaker 1: a job, and you might sit out two thousand nineteen

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Speaker 1: and revisit the coaching thing in two thousand twenty. That's

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Speaker 1: your story that you're telling everyone for a week, and

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Speaker 1: then when you look like you're gonna be the last

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Speaker 1: one at the dance, you don't have anyone to go

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Speaker 1: out there and dance with. Okay, we really only want

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Speaker 1: the Jetstop Jets job, because that's really five of them

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Speaker 1: are gone now and we might not get any other one. Well,

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Speaker 1: they're looking at some interesting named Baylor's coach. Matt Rule

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Speaker 1: right definitely in the mix, according to uh Rich Sumini

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Speaker 1: of VSPN New York, and seems to be the name

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Speaker 1: that might be in a little buzz here. That's a

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah's favorite candidate. He's there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: college people that would put Matt Rule ahead of Cliff Kingsman.

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Speaker 1: He's got things very pop in that people inside the

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Speaker 1: game seem to respect him. He's a young up and

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Speaker 1: gumming guy. He's from New York. He has a little

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Speaker 1: bit of NFL experience, and uh has done a nice

717
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: job like Bruce arians a former Temple coach. There you go,

718
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Speaker 1: and I have a Bailor tie through my wife and

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Speaker 1: my father in law. Bob Bates is way into the

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Speaker 1: Bailor Bears, and under rule they have transitioned from the

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Speaker 1: the wide open spread attack of r G three and

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Speaker 1: Bryce Petty to a pro style attack. So he has

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Speaker 1: the type of knowledge of the game that would transfer

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Speaker 1: to the NFL. We'll see what that guy. Also, Eric

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Speaker 1: b Enemy the Chiefs offense cornered in play with the Jets,

726
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Speaker 1: so we'll see that. I feel like that's something's coming

727
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Speaker 1: very soon with the Jets. What about the Dolphins. What

728
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Speaker 1: are you hearing about the Dolphins? GA, Well, there hasn't

729
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Speaker 1: been much. There's there's still some lingering buzz whether the

730
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Speaker 1: Dolphins would try to present the Ravens with an offer

731
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Speaker 1: they couldn't refuse In regards to John Harbop, Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Talk has written a lot about that. Other than that,

733
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Speaker 1: the name in Miami that they think is the strongest

734
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Speaker 1: is Brian Flores, who is not the Patriots defensive coordinator

735
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Speaker 1: but essentially has those responsibilities for them, been a linebacker

736
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Speaker 1: coach for them. Has a really interesting backstory and just

737
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Speaker 1: seems to be you know when when no owners talk

738
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Speaker 1: about like we want a leader of men, he seems

739
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: like one of those guys who definitely connects with with

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Speaker 1: his players, and he might he might be the guy,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but have to be stated that you want

742
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Speaker 1: a leader of men well as opposed. There's different styles

743
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Speaker 1: of that. I think though, like Bill Belichick is not

744
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Speaker 1: someone you would you would say, that's not the first

745
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Speaker 1: thing that you bring up. You bring up his game plans,

746
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Speaker 1: you know, same with Kingsbury perhaps yea love Belichick, Yeah right,

747
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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean kind of that's what

748
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Speaker 1: people miss about McVeigh, that he's really good at that

749
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: part of the job. And it's not just that he's

750
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Speaker 1: a mastermind on offense. And I think it's it's the

751
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Speaker 1: priority you put on it. I don't think the King's

752
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: he's being hired because he's a leader of men. I

753
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Speaker 1: think it's because of his work with quarterbacks. I think

754
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Speaker 1: whoever takes this job though, I mean, this is a

755
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Speaker 1: team that's in the zone of almost tear it down

756
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Speaker 1: to rebuild, and it's not going to be an easy path.

757
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: And the other name that comes up as Christopher Shard,

758
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: who also his players Byron Jones talked about Christoph Shard

759
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys is destined for greatness jail and Smith

760
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: said that right away since I mean sotaly different, so

761
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Speaker 1: I guess both both good candidates. But this is not

762
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Speaker 1: an easy team to take over right now, and it

763
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: starts at the time. Morris seems like a really intriguing candidate,

764
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: but man Stephen Ross cannot get out of this a

765
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: f C East thing where he's kind of just endlessly

766
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Speaker 1: taking people off the parcels Tree and tannin bomb and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm the dolphin, If I'm a

768
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Speaker 1: dolphin like getting it just seems like more of the same.

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Speaker 1: But he also, who knows, might be the next great

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Speaker 1: young coach Wes. Why does it feel like, from the

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Speaker 1: outside not tracking it too closely, that the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: the only team that aren't even searching for a head coach? Well,

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Speaker 1: sometimes forget will forget that they're a franchise. I think

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Speaker 1: that's part of it. And the way they run things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't exactly been in the news, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, hunting, it seems, but I'm sure there's something

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Speaker 1: going on. They're slow to make maneuvers in generally in general,

778
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Speaker 1: isn't no huge Well, I guess there is a rush

779
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Speaker 1: because they Marvin Lewis wasn't the first Cincinnati coach to

780
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: stay a lot longer than most people expected. They are

781
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Speaker 1: slow to make moves on all fronts. Well, I mean,

782
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Speaker 1: they seem like they're lined up vance. Joseph seems like

783
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Speaker 1: their guy almost at this point, which is how do you,

784
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you sell that to a fan base.

785
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Speaker 1: Their interviews have been in house, Bill Laser, Darren Simmons,

786
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Speaker 1: their special teams coordinator, and Hugh Jackson got an interview right.

787
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Speaker 1: But they, to their credit, if you want to criticize,

788
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: they are taking a really wide birth here. They They

789
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Speaker 1: interviewed Eric b. Enemy, They interviewed Shane Waldron, Zach Taylor,

790
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Speaker 1: Vac Taylor, They interviewed Todd Mounkin. I mean, I think

791
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Speaker 1: they've had eight or nine. Those are the those are

792
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Speaker 1: all offensive minds. The two guys from the Rams, Taylor

793
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Speaker 1: and Waldron and then Monk, and those are some of

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Speaker 1: the intriguing offensive minds. And like you said, Hugh Jackson

795
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Speaker 1: vans Joseph's a defensive guy. They've interviewed some This can't

796
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Speaker 1: be a team where there's any referendum to you know

797
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Speaker 1: you're gonna stick with Andy Dalton for seasons one through

798
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Speaker 1: how many more? There has to be an open minded

799
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Speaker 1: approach to new quarterbacks. It feels like Vance Joseph has,

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Speaker 1: at least from what Ian and the different insiders, that

801
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Speaker 1: if you had to guess, Vance Joseph might be the

802
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Speaker 1: leader in the club. How to guess what Mike Brown's going?

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Speaker 1: How do you tell that to Bengals fans before it happened? Right?

804
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Speaker 1: But I don't trust any reporting about what's going on. Right,

805
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: No one knows. Um one more trip to coordinator corner,

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Speaker 1: uh Mark Cessler and I hope you're safe. Josh McDaniels

807
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Speaker 1: is staying put with the Patriots. His word is his bond.

808
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Speaker 1: It's solid as oaks. So absolutely he's staying there, isn't he? Yes?

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00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: And I always felt that with him, that it was

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Speaker 1: the Packers or or not. I don't think that he

811
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Speaker 1: would have trusted the situation in Cleveland. There was there

812
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: were whisper is about that that there was some mutual interest,

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Speaker 1: But for me, it felt like Packers are busted and

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Speaker 1: why not stay in New England? You'll still be a

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Speaker 1: name next hiring cycle, whether you should be or not going.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you have a pretty good job, Mark, you

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Speaker 1: know I do. I can't hear you. It feels dangerous.

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Speaker 1: You have a pretty good job. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: should move out of this neighborhood at this point. You know,

820
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: when you when you're a reporter of the deals with

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Speaker 1: certain neighborhoods, you become ingrained and interwoven with that, with

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Speaker 1: that community and the st They trust me and I

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Speaker 1: trust them. I got you. Dirk Cutter going back to

824
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Speaker 1: the Falcons also, Mark, well, are you okay with that?

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Speaker 1: Or is that you know? Mike mclarkey's going there too.

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Speaker 1: What's going on when he ran their offense from two

827
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Speaker 1: thousand twelve to two thousand and fourteen, two of those

828
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Speaker 1: years they finished seventh and eighth. I think the thing this,

829
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Speaker 1: this for me, tracks back to one thing, and I

830
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Speaker 1: think there must be a trusted and uh you know,

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Speaker 1: wanted wanted relationship with Matt Ryan that goes both ways.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you do it. Otherwise it's not

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Speaker 1: the most inspiring higher based on what we think of

834
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Speaker 1: Dirk Hutter in general, but his offense in Tampa Bay

835
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Speaker 1: was not the issue. It's fine. I have a lot

836
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Speaker 1: the Week, Go check it out. Um, there you go. Hey,

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Speaker 1: before we leave, I did send out a mailbag prompt

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Speaker 1: from the around the NFL Twitter handle. Um, start with

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Speaker 1: you on this one. Mark, Now that the brown This

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Speaker 1: from Ryan Heal. Now that the Browns got their head coach,

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Speaker 1: who would Mark like to see is the d C

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Speaker 1: an older former head coach a lah Wade Phillips or

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Speaker 1: a younger DC candidate Bill Bill A chick. He's taken

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Speaker 1: Bill Parcels. He's old and retired. Um, nobody really jumps

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Speaker 1: out to be honest, like I would want someone that's

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Speaker 1: not going to, you know, get I want someone who's

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Speaker 1: not going to fight with the with with Kitchens and

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Speaker 1: the rest. You don't have a pipeline to all the

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Speaker 1: best linebackers coaches in the NFL. Yeah, it just seems

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Speaker 1: like the you know, you're just Pepper Johnson, Like, oh, good, good, idea,

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Speaker 1: there's some share DNA there. Remember Kitchens worked under Bill

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Speaker 1: Parcel's West could be Parcels. This from galam Leslie. Which

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Speaker 1: one of the hires do you think has the biggest

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Speaker 1: chance of backfiring? Do you think there's a real chance

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Speaker 1: any of them are out of a job again in

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Speaker 1: twelve months. I think, honestly that the Bruce arians higher

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Speaker 1: has the best chance of backfiring because because of his

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Speaker 1: health issues and if he if something happens, and then

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Speaker 1: you have an inexperienced coaching staff behind him, I think

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Speaker 1: that's how you end up with three well and he

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Speaker 1: he said in his first comments, the whole thing, the

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Speaker 1: whole franchise will be built around Jamis Win. That's the other,

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Speaker 1: you cat, you're counting on that to work. That makes

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Speaker 1: also Jamis Winston one of the biggest winners of the

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Speaker 1: off season, but it also means if he continues to

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Speaker 1: be the guy he's been for the last four years,

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Speaker 1: you're right back where you started. All right, good job,

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Speaker 1: good mail bag? Guys? Do you want one more? One more?

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Speaker 1: I mean two feels a little light. That's been a

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Speaker 1: mail bag, and I thought you're trying to keep these shows.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like a mail bag. I thought you guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna just go back and forth. I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of like someone carrying like a heavy bag of mail,

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Speaker 1: like like it was a good job. I was my

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Speaker 1: answer as well, Yeah, all right, vamp a little bit. Mark,

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Speaker 1: let me find one more. Greg? How you doing over there? Hello,

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Speaker 1: my baby, Hello my? Did you know the Flora's French

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Speaker 1: for the flower? Ah? It's ever podcasting for really? This

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Speaker 1: is this is cut territory. There may be you know

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Speaker 1: post show, who is uh handled Arthur Pietre, Peter At

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Speaker 1: I survived oh and sixteen with Jim Bob Cooter out

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. Who's likely to replace him? Jed clamp At,

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Speaker 1: John Boy, Walton Bow Duke or a member of the

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Speaker 1: country bear Jim that was good. That was good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like Jack clap Petre has got some chops. Um.

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Speaker 1: Last question, real question, Greg Todd Rice asks what does

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Speaker 1: the hiring of Bruce Arians mean for the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay? You better, you feel better about Jamis Winson.

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Speaker 1: There's a long term out, no doubt. The way the

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Speaker 1: Arians talked about it on Wednesday is that they're they're

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Speaker 1: all in with Jamis Winston. So if you if you

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Speaker 1: believe in Jameis Winson like I do, that he's still

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Speaker 1: has a chance to be still a good starter, he's solid,

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Speaker 1: that he can be better, that he can be better.

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Speaker 1: It's fair. It's also you know, the GM picked and

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Speaker 1: the GM is still around. It was a referendum to

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Speaker 1: keep using Jamis Winston, who has had more tone rovers

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Speaker 1: than anyone in the league since he's been drafted. It

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Speaker 1: all makes sense, but he also has accomplished a lot

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Speaker 1: for a four year you know, in his rookie contract,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot worse. Put it that way. All right,

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Speaker 1: there you go, Thank you for everybody sent in questions.

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Speaker 1: We will be back tomorrow with our divisional Round Playoff preview.

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Speaker 1: Uh Now, I said wild Card weekend is one of

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Speaker 1: the best weekends of the year in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: best weekend is Divisional playoff weekend because you've got every

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Speaker 1: game is featuring heavy hitters, especially with that Tomato can.

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Speaker 1: Pat's game no longer an issue like it's been in

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Speaker 1: past years. We got a real game up in Foxboro

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Speaker 1: and everywhere else that the professional football has played on

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday. How about that. I agree with you

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Speaker 1: everything you said best divisional rounds. Since we've been doing

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Speaker 1: the show, i'd i'd argue, I think to study the past.

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Speaker 1: See let's see how the results come. Well, there's always

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Speaker 1: been a couple like this game is going to be

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Speaker 1: an epic blow out. Oh Tim Tebow's playing the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: This is not going to go well, I forgot about

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Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, uh no, this everything seems like it

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Speaker 1: will lead to great football, which will mean we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a bunch of horrible blowouts. We just jinx it. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll be there in person for Rams Cowboys Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll be taping our recap show as normal

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Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Very exciting. Okay, this is Dan hands As

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Speaker 1: signing off four Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Old Boss,

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Speaker 1: and the Great Ricky Hollywood behind the glass. She's nervous.

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Speaker 1: She's real nervous about the past. Belt Thursday eight