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Speaker 1: Welcome to forties and free Agents. You're limited series show

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Speaker 1: going all the way to the Draft. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Jeremiah's mock Draft three point zero. But

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Speaker 1: this show has been such a hit early, we've already

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Speaker 1: graduated to the media beef portion of our of our growth.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to the insiders from our own network who

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Speaker 1: didn't like that DJ was the one breaking some news

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Speaker 1: last week.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, DJ, You're welcome to scoop tam or sometimes you're

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Speaker 2: in the back of an uber the night before the draft,

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Speaker 2: the DJ's debating between CJ Starter, Will Anderson going to

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Speaker 2: the Texans, and I yell out, how about give him

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Speaker 2: bold and then you take credit for it. You take

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Speaker 2: a little victory lot. I'm just saying, there's a little

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Speaker 2: bit that was meeting.

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Speaker 3: That was more.

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Speaker 2: DJ is the best. Greg is also a person we

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Speaker 3: Wow. That's uh, That's that's tough one there, Greg. I

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Speaker 3: will say, I'm here in Frisco at the home of

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, a home of an organization said they're

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Speaker 3: going to be selectively aggressive. I feel like Pella Sero's

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Speaker 3: selective memory there with with how that went down on

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. But I honestly don't feel that bad

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Speaker 3: the way I came out and that Greg, I thought

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Speaker 3: maybe more of a shot at you there at the

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Speaker 3: end someone we worked with that one. That's a little harsh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I would like to actually thank the insiders,

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Speaker 1: the only three men in the industry that could make

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Speaker 1: me look likable in comparison. So we have a big

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Speaker 1: show this week. We're going to go through your mock draft.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about picks we like, picks we didn't.

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Speaker 1: But let's just take a look at the top five

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Speaker 1: to start out the show and how it's changed since

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Speaker 1: your last one. So this time around, we got cam

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Speaker 1: Ward number one. That's a flip flop. Abdull Carter is

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Speaker 1: there now at number two going to the Browns. Sedar

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Speaker 1: Travis Hunter to the Patriots at four, and Jalen Walker

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Speaker 1: Let's just kind of go through some of these changes.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an easy question for as well, why

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Speaker 3: Well, I think some of it's what you alluded to

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Speaker 3: that you made, Greg. I like to point those out.

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Speaker 3: But I also think that if it's not Tennessee, that

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Speaker 3: just feels like, if you're Tennessee, you're going to take

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Speaker 3: somebody else to come take cam Ward. You're going to

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Speaker 1: That all makes sense, But all I could really hear

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Speaker 1: insiders coming after us is bringing forties and free agents together.

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Speaker 1: Like point out that you're the only person other than

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who who still plugs in you know, his

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Speaker 3: There, you know, true story. We got time. I mean,

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Speaker 3: So let's let's let's go ahead and let this breathe

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah, that's where we are in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: You want to get all your news from Instagram? Warning

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Speaker 1: about brain waves accurate. Miles Garrett was with our friend

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Speaker 1: Well, they famously passed on a quarterback to take Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Greg, go back, Greg. And look at the twenty one

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Speaker 1: Right, And the only one without an extension out of

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Speaker 4: Maybe the best player among them. You got to yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: So when these mocks come out, and look, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: And when you do mock drafts, it's actual news is

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Speaker 3: And this is one hundred percent in that camp, Greg.

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Speaker 3: But I was told by someone outside the Giants organization,

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Speaker 3: If I'm Aaron Rodgers, you might as well. I'd say,

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to do what everyone does to the

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Speaker 1: You tell me Jaguars, like, what do you think these

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland would be an interesting one. I think. I

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Speaker 3: But man, can you imagine on offense, Trevor Lawrence, you

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Speaker 3: That's that would be fun. That'd be fun if you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's getting double duty. At least eventually you

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Speaker 4: But I get that you start out on one side.

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Speaker 4: Focus scene. Let's go to the picks that I like

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Speaker 4: the most. DJ that that you made picks and you

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Speaker 3: He It's funny because it doesn't say that on the screen.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't say picks Greg likes. That would seem to

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's our producer trying to you know, cause even

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Speaker 3: Nicely done, good pronunciation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'd done that very much.

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Speaker 1: I practice. I want to go through these one by one.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Mason Graham. Actually I just like this

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Speaker 4: You're listening to me.

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Speaker 3: No, that's that's absolutely incorrect. It's it's very consistent with

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Speaker 3: And I told everybody this is going to happen with

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Speaker 3: He has made for the fall, he's not made for

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Speaker 3: that we saw the exact same thing happen in Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: So again, Greg, some guys and we'll we'll educate you.

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Speaker 3: As we're doing more of these shows year after year

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Speaker 4: Right, jokes aside.

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Speaker 1: Is it fair to say that teams view Graham differently,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if this is true or not.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking do you think that his Of course, there's

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Speaker 3: I won't blanket it with teams because I've talked to

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Speaker 3: nothing wrong with hitt and double, so we don't need

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Speaker 3: And then a lot of times end up being more

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Speaker 4: Similar to Will Campbell.

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Speaker 1: So I like that pick because it just seems to

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Speaker 4: I think they've come out with a purpose.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think their head coach is partly running

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Speaker 3: I think it's a we have. I literally think it's

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Speaker 3: unber onint and I would not be surprised if that

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Speaker 3: I think you could see half the teams have it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 1: Big twelve prote can you tell the the announcer in

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Speaker 3: my question. Well, I can't hear you, but I've got

437
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Speaker 3: I've got the PA guy going on nutso behind me.

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Speaker 4: I thought I was just hearing something crazy.

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Speaker 1: But it just shows how what other shows are out

440
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Speaker 1: there on site giving you this material.

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Speaker 4: Ian Rappaport, he's on the ski slopes.

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Speaker 1: I have information right now, he's not even working and

443
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Speaker 1: we're out here grinding, especially you.

444
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Speaker 3: By the way. By the way, kids kids size, kids

445
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Speaker 3: size skis. By the way, nobody knows that, but that's true, right.

446
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Speaker 1: It's that it's that little side ski lift that's just

447
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Speaker 1: like a mini one. It's like you could have even

448
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Speaker 1: just walked up to the little kiddy hill that you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you there, Colson Lovelin, What a what a

450
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Speaker 1: pickup this would be for the Seattle Seahawks, who I

451
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Speaker 1: think need help on offense. You have him falling to eighteenth,

452
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Speaker 1: not falling that that's a good spot.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad you picked this one.

454
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you picked this one to talk about because

455
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Speaker 3: I know, like I've talked, we talked about it previously too,

456
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Speaker 3: like offensive line, interior, offensive lines and direction you would

457
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 3: think makes a ton of sense for them, but in

458
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Speaker 3: this in this case, I think and this is maybe

459
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Speaker 3: a disconnect between and inside the draft room and maybe

460
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Speaker 3: what the expectations are on the fan side of things,

461
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Speaker 3: which is, yes, we we might have a higher need somewhere,

462
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Speaker 3: but you don't pass on what we would call blue player,

463
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Speaker 3: Like this is someone who I have as a top

464
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Speaker 3: seven player in the draft, and do we have anybody?

465
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Speaker 3: Is Noah Fan going to preclude me from taking a

466
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Speaker 3: top seven player in the draft? Not a chance. I'm

467
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Speaker 3: gonna give Sam Donald a bunch of easy, easy completions

468
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Speaker 3: here with someone like Lovelin. So I think that's you know,

469
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Speaker 3: there's times where like, hey, we have a need, we

470
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Speaker 3: need to fill it. Obviously you hope to do that

471
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Speaker 3: in free agency, but you're still gonna have needs in

472
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Speaker 3: the draft. But the golden rule don't pass on great players.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, he might be a safer pick than

474
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Speaker 1: Tyler Warren. You can just see what he does and

475
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Speaker 1: having to translate at the next level. And I also

476
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Speaker 1: just thought it would be important for them to get

477
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Speaker 1: like a tight end. He showed us in his last

478
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Speaker 1: year that he can really catch off target, throws and

479
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Speaker 1: that's going to be necessary when Sam Donald's your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I see see you had to just get

481
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Speaker 3: a Donald dig in there too. Man. By the way,

482
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Speaker 3: are you guys having Are you guys having a party

483
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Speaker 3: at the Rosenthal household whenever we get the new Geno deal.

484
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Speaker 3: I didn't know if he whether is going to pay

485
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Speaker 3: for that or not? Like do you does he pay

486
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Speaker 3: for balloons and cake that you guys can?

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Speaker 1: He does follow me on Twitter. We've never actually had

488
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Speaker 1: a personal interaction.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It might it might be his his social media guy

491
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Speaker 3: follows you on Twitter. Let's let's be honest here. Come on,

492
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Speaker 3: by the way, if you ever send a direct message,

493
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Speaker 3: because I have again, like different players people and you

494
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Speaker 3: know a lot of times athletes that they'll follow and

495
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Speaker 3: you follow him back, and uh, I think I'll be

496
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Speaker 3: on tell you what it was. He was Cooper Cup

497
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Speaker 3: and I'll next time I see him, I'll find out

498
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Speaker 3: if this is true or not. But my theory is

499
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Speaker 3: that when you send somebody, hey, congratulations on the new deal,

500
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Speaker 3: happy before you hope all as well, and you get

501
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Speaker 3: back prayer hands, I'm thinking that's not I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's Cooper. I think that's just I think that's his

503
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Speaker 3: guy that runs the social media. That's just acknowledging like, hey, yeah,

504
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize I followed you. But thanks, thanks for

505
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Speaker 3: the Thanks for the nice note.

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Speaker 4: I love the little behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, while we're while we're talking gin know, we

508
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Speaker 1: might as well talk to ask GenZ. You have him

509
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Speaker 1: going number six and we're still waiting to see that

510
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Speaker 1: Gino contract.

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Speaker 4: This is one of those.

512
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Speaker 1: And I'm asking you to fight through the noise back

513
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Speaker 1: there that there's a lot of buzz about. You know,

514
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Speaker 1: I only have so many sources, not as many as

515
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Speaker 1: the real insider Daniel Jeremiah, but this does seem one that,

516
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Speaker 1: like people think, could really happen. Is there any concern

517
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Speaker 1: if you're the Raiders that so many teams think that.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think that you're in danger of having

519
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Speaker 3: somebody leap frog you. I mean that's the you know,

520
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Speaker 3: teams are so paranoid about information getting out and their

521
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Speaker 3: whole thing. Oh somebody's gonna trade up in front of me.

522
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Speaker 3: That so rarely happens. You know, that you get connected

523
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Speaker 3: with the player and then a team will leap frog you.

524
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Speaker 3: To take them, and especially at the running back position

525
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Speaker 3: in a deep running back draft. And you know, Laurie

526
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Speaker 3: and Hampton for me is not that far off. I

527
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Speaker 3: love Gentie, I love this as player, but Marion Hampton

528
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Speaker 3: really really good back. I can't imagine that if you're

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Speaker 3: like the Bear, you're going to trade picks to get

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Speaker 3: up ahead of the Raiders to get genty when if

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Speaker 3: you were dead set on taking a running back, you'd

532
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Speaker 3: have amar and Hampton waiting for you, or you could

533
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Speaker 3: even you know, potentially wait till you know your second

534
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Speaker 3: round comes around and get one of the Ohio State

535
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Speaker 3: running backs. So I don't think there's danger with that

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Speaker 3: particular team being connected to that player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And there's been some criticism for the Seahawks, you know,

539
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Speaker 1: trading dk Metcalf away from Darnold for instance, and not

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Speaker 1: picking up an offensive The Raiders don't have a Jackson

541
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Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba. The Raiders need some some weapons on

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Speaker 1: their team. They don't have the running backs.

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Speaker 3: Certain they got one, they got one, really really good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gino Smith, rock Bowers look at you, wide receiver,

545
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Speaker 1: absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: Rock Bowers is a wide receiver with a te next

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Speaker 3: to his name.

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Speaker 4: That is absolutely fair. All right, we're going to take

549
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Speaker 4: a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back and we're going to go

551
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Speaker 1: through some of the picks that wasn't as sure about

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Speaker 1: as confident.

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Speaker 3: These other ones you didn't hate. That's his nice compliment. Thanks,

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Speaker 3: I don't hate these picks, what ad chirk.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, they got Jalen.

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Speaker 1: Carter's picture up there, They got Travis Hunters. They should

563
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Speaker 1: have Daniel Jeremiah's picture up there. He's the one who

564
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Speaker 1: owns the draft, Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you just said? Jalen Carter? So you guys,

566
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Speaker 3: he goes to Penn State now and he's in this

567
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Speaker 3: year's draft. The Eagles are gonna be very surprised by that.

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Speaker 4: I'm the draft guy. I'm just trying to catch.

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Speaker 3: This, gracious, that's why it's called forties and free agents.

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Speaker 3: Free agents way way after the forties in terms of

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Speaker 3: importance on this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about some players that I didn't

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Speaker 1: think you did as good a job with. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: call this section. What does DJ know about some of

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Speaker 1: these players?

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Speaker 3: Do you need me to pronounce them?

577
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Speaker 4: Greg?

578
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Speaker 2: Or?

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Speaker 3: You think you got this one on there? You got

580
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Speaker 3: this one here?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean I've got Jalen Carter on the brain.

582
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Speaker 1: He was the most important player on the best defense

583
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Speaker 1: in the league. Let's talk Jackson Dart and there's a

584
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Speaker 1: number of players on this board that, Yeah, I don't

585
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Speaker 1: think he did a great job with here, DJ or

586
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Speaker 1: more than I have questions, but Jackson's Dart going twenty

587
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Speaker 1: one to the Steelers.

588
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Speaker 4: Is this a guy that it's.

589
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Speaker 1: More on the evaluation or more what you're hearing putting

590
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Speaker 1: him that early?

591
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Speaker 3: No, I just I don't know who's playing quarterback for him.

592
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Speaker 3: And I asked myself a very simple question, do I

593
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Speaker 3: think Jackson Dart would beat out Mason Rudolph? And I

594
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Speaker 3: think he would sooner rather than later. And I also

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Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart, I've used this before, but he does

596
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Speaker 3: remind me of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts, who wasn't a

597
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Speaker 3: finished product coming out, but when you watched him every

598
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Speaker 3: year in college, he got better and better and better.

599
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Speaker 3: They're both strong, sturdy guys. You look at the way

600
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Speaker 3: they can move around. Obviously, jack Star doesn't move around

601
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Speaker 3: white like Hurtz does, but he rushed over fifteen hundred

602
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Speaker 3: yards in his three years in the SEC. He's athletic.

603
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Speaker 3: So all those things together, I thought, man, you could

604
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Speaker 3: find some similarities there. And you look at you know,

605
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Speaker 3: Andy Widele's with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he was with the

606
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles. So I was just kind of putting a

607
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Speaker 3: couple of pieces together there. And more so than anything else,

608
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Speaker 3: it was like, is this guy better than what we

609
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Speaker 3: have on our roster at the moment? And the answer

610
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Speaker 3: was yes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear that.

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Speaker 1: And yet it reminds me too much of the Kenny

613
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Speaker 1: Pickett Draft that there's maybe only so many first round

614
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in that class that there were none in this class.

615
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Speaker 1: Maybe there's the big two if you want to put

616
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Speaker 1: Shitur Sanders there, and then it's forcing a pick up

617
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Speaker 1: with Jackson Dart. But we'll see it makes a little

618
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Speaker 1: bit of sense. They are on Aaron Rodgers watch, and

619
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Speaker 1: yet I don't think that would prevent them from looking

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback of the former.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to see if I can get the PA

622
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Speaker 3: to turn the volume pubb litle. I don't know if

623
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Speaker 3: you're hearing that enough. So we are here at the

624
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Speaker 3: Big twelve Pro Day and linebackers are running for literally,

625
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Speaker 3: we're doing forties in free agents while they're running flutings

626
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Speaker 3: like you don't, I mean, where else you get back?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Come on you you are playing hurt today, You're you're

629
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Speaker 1: fighting through a double team. I appreciate it, AND's why

630
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for picking on any of these picks.

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Speaker 4: I'm not really. They actually made me wonder, like.

632
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Speaker 3: What is d good questions? Good questions?

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Speaker 4: DJ knows a lot.

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Speaker 1: What does he know about Ted McMillan here, who has

635
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a slower forty time this week

636
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Speaker 1: you've had him in your top twenty top in terms

637
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: of your evaluation, so you obviously like them as a player,

638
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: but you have them twenty two going to the Los

639
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Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers, and I gotta admit DJ, I checked on

640
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: the mel Kuiper mock draft, which also came out.

641
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm allowed to say mel Kiper's name.

642
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: No. I love Melon absolutely and tech.

643
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Speaker 1: He was kind of low on on his mock draft too.

644
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Speaker 1: So something's happening here. What's happening with Ted McMillan.

645
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Speaker 3: Well, a couple things. He ran his forty other day. Now,

646
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Speaker 3: don't this is a public service announcement. Don't believe the

647
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 3: times that you get from four he's at Pro Days

648
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Speaker 3: unless you get somebody who's talked to a scout who

649
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Speaker 3: was there, because the times were circularing. We're in the

650
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Speaker 3: four fours, and I talked to five or six different teams,

651
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Speaker 3: and I didn't get anything from that. I got anywhere

652
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Speaker 3: from the range of four or five three at the

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Speaker 3: low end all the way up to one was at

654
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Speaker 3: four six three. But the most consistent ones and the

655
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: ones that got circulated to all the different teams was

656
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: the four or five three number, which is a good time.

657
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: It's a solid time for guy who's six foot four,

658
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: two hundred nineteen two hundred and twenty pounds. But historically, Greg,

659
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: I always try and remind people when you're doing mock

660
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: drafts and you're talking about ranges of where guys can go.

661
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying what type of player he's going to be,

662
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: but the last time we had a receiver running the

663
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: four or five and going to the top fifteen, you

664
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: got to go back to Mike Evans in twenty fourteen.

665
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 3: So historically the league doesn't take wide receivers that lack,

666
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: you know, that top top speed. They historically don't go

667
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen. And when you have Matthew Golden,

668
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: who's got really good tape at Texas RANA four two nine,

669
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens with the BUCA. He was a

670
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: tough one for me. I think once he runs, I

671
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: think he'll run faster than people expect. I didn't have

672
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: him in this last mock draft. I think he'll come

673
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: right back in once he shows everybody and verifies the

674
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 3: speed that he has. So it's different flavors with receivers.

675
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's possible. Maybe it's not

676
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: likely he gets all the way to twenty two, but

677
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: I think it's absolutely possible.

678
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Now, I know you know you respect mel Kiper a lot,

679
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: but are you are you checking out his mock drafts

680
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: just to see or are you kind of Don Draper

681
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: and the Element.

682
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think three him Mike, No, I love Mel

683
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: and ours came out the same morning, So you know,

684
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: you turn those in and then you just kind of see.

685
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: So I always see it like he's curious to see

686
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: if there's any new names that pop up in there,

687
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of times you know that's

688
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: coming from somewhere. It's not just you know what you're seeing.

689
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: He does it similarly to the way I do it

690
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: of talking to people on mock drafts. You rank them

691
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: off your eyes. You you do mock drafts a little

692
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: bit more off your ears. So maybe there's somebody's catching

693
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: some buzz. Maybe I can uh, I do my own

694
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: homework on that. But yeah, I love Mel. I always

695
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 3: love checking out Mel stuff.

696
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't. I can't get you to take down

697
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: Mel that he's no ian.

698
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: I was in Mel's book. I used to work literally

699
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 3: while I was in college, I was working on the

700
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: draft with the Response. I got to go out to

701
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: dinner with Mel. I got to meet Mel Wows in

702
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: college and my senior year. He'd had no business putting

703
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: me in the book. He put me in his draft book.

704
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: As you know, I think Priorty free agent would be

705
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: with a kind way to say it, but I did.

706
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: I did make it to Mel's book that year.

707
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: Oh. I didn't even get you were in his book

708
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: as a player. I thought you were just setting them

709
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: out on the scouting upstate. I didn't know you played football.

710
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: That's cool. You should start a podcast tough.

711
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: That is tough. That is tough.

712
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I uh, I just wanted to throw a little bit

713
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 1: of news for our listeners. Cam Robinson signed with the

714
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Houston Texans.

715
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 4: Now that's probably.

716
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: It is a one year deal, so I don't think

717
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: that would necessarily prevent them from taking a tackle. You

718
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 1: had him going Kelvin Banks, who plays the same position,

719
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: but again, I don't think that would prevent them from

720
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: taking a tackle. For a one year pickup for Cam Robinson.

721
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: But that was just interesting to me. I noticed Samar Stewart,

722
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: who blew up the combine, is number thirty two in

723
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: your mock draft. The Eagles taking another big, strong, fast guy.

724
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Just interesting that maybe he didn't get the bump that

725
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: I would have thought coming off that combine performance.

726
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: I mean, we had some people.

727
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name names, asking could this guy go

728
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: number one overall. After the combine, you have a bat

729
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: at thirty two.

730
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think that we know where he could go.

731
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: He's one with a very broad range. I will just

732
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: say I was in the combine up in the booth

733
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: next to rich Eisen when Nolan Smith ran what in

734
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: the high four threes, low four fours or whatever. He

735
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: ran out of Georgia. But someone who didn't have a

736
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: ton of sack production, And what happened to Nolan Smith?

737
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: He fell into the lap of the Philadelphia Eagles. History

738
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: has a way of repeating itself, Craig, So that was

739
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: kind of my thought process there. The production isn't there.

740
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: The disruption is he's very disruptive. You can see on

741
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: the clips that we're watching as we're talking here. I

742
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: mean he's got big time, big time speed that you

743
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: see when he's working out. It also does translate to

744
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: the football field. He just hasn't you know, he hasn't

745
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: been able to rack up the sac production, hasn't been

746
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: a great finisher. Something that I think is, I think

747
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: there's more out there form. I think he's going to

748
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: get better in that department. But if you told me

749
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: that he was the ninth pick, tenth pick, or he

750
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: was a thirty second pick. It's kind of one of

751
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: those drafts where he's one of those guys with a

752
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: very wide range.

753
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so DJ's not standing like on on its two feet.

754
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: He has this big mock draft that comes out right

755
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: before the draft. I think he'll have the best information there.

756
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: So I like hearing that on Stewart Matthew Golden number

757
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: twelve overall, I just thought was a little wild in

758
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: this scenario. There's no Accngendy on the board for the Cowboys.

759
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: But man, his forty maybe helped him out. What's the

760
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: thinking there? That was one where I was like, Wow,

761
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: does DJ know something that gold would go that high

762
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: first receiver off the board.

763
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's my first receiver. So that's how I have

764
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 3: him stacked. His tape is really good. This is someone

765
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: if you think about Texas, he transfers from Houston, goes

766
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: to the University of Texas, and in one year establishes

767
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 3: himself as as the guy that your quarterback and Quinn

768
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: Ewers and your play caller and Steve Sarkisian trusts more

769
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: than anyone. Why do I say that, because when you're

770
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: in a playoff game against Arizona State and it's fourth

771
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: down and your season is on the line. That's where

772
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: the ball went, and he saved their season. You see

773
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 3: one handed catches when you watch him, he's really really strong.

774
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: I go back to the less sneed line that when

775
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: I talked about receivers many many years ago, maybe not

776
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: maybe three years ago, and they've had such a good

777
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: job of hitting on whiteouts. I asked him one of

778
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: the things that they focused on. He talked about guys

779
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: that are grounded through the catch, Guys that run through

780
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: the ball. They trust their hands, they don't gather, they

781
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: don't leave their feet, they run right through the ball

782
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: with their cleats in the ground. And Golden does that

783
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: really really well. And then on top of that, a

784
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: little sprinkle on top of the Sunday he ran four.

785
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: Two nine right, And the Cowboys have a massive need

786
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: there in terms of their second respect.

787
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you get him over the top and with

788
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: that speed and the ability to make things happen, and

789
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: you free up a little space for seedy lamb that

790
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 3: I'd be a fun pick.

791
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 4: No, I got admit, I don't. I don't hate that one.

792
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: That was one I just wanted to know a little

793
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: more what's going in behind this week. As you said

794
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: with Mel, you know he DJ's here and all this stuff.

795
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: More to come on forties in free agents.

796
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: Back in a minute. We're back on.

797
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: Let's let's look at some of the new names. Just

798
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of go over who was added from the last version.

799
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: New additions from the last mock draft. Uh Donovan Azerako,

800
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jackson Dart Maxwell Harston is new. He's at

801
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: twenty three to the Packers.

802
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: Uh. Nick and Worry from the you know, South Carolina

803
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: is at twenty four to the Viking team.

804
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Trey Amos was added Mississippi cornerback Derek Harmon, the defensive

805
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: tackle from Oregon and then the cornerback as Aarya Thomas

806
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: from Florida State at twenty nine. Hairston is a guy

807
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: would be very interesting for Green Bay. We don't know

808
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: what the future is for Jayah Alexander. Do you think

809
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: he fits kind of what they do as a team.

810
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Can you go back to Thomas's first name? He pronounced

811
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: that one more time for me. Greg.

812
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: I didn't realize. I don't know why I felt like

813
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: I needed to say every name there. I didn't need

814
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 4: to I.

815
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: Saw your showing off at some point in time. I

816
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, Greg, I just heard this name,

817
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: you know, twenty minutes ago. Let me really try and

818
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 3: practice the pronunciation. I mean pretty suppressed.

819
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: That was worse.

820
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: I don't know why I kept you better the first time,

821
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 3: so I didn't think you had any chance of repeating

822
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: that success, you know what I mean. That's why, that's

823
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: why I wanted to get that on the record. What

824
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: was your question again one more time?

825
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: It was about Hairston.

826
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: And also I actually was a little surprise Starks and

827
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: emin Warre. You still have Malachi Starks so far ahead

828
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: despite him blowing up the combine.

829
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: And it worked worked out. Yeah. Well, let's first of all,

830
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: on Harston and the Harriston ran really well. Harriston in

831
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: twenty three, fully healthy, played a whole season, had five interceptions,

832
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: made tons of plays on the ball, tested extremely well. Obviously,

833
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: he's a freak in terms of the exclusiveness. You know,

834
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: wish she was a little thicker, but he's he's someone

835
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: that can find and play the ball. He's got big

836
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: time speed and he's willing. Some of his tackling wasn't

837
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: as good this year because of the shoulder injury, but

838
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: you go back to twenty three, you felt more comfortable

839
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: with it. Had a good senior bawl. So he's had

840
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: a good a good process. So that's why I had

841
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: him going to the Packers and a team with jy

842
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: O Xanders. I think we'd say his days are not

843
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: long there. So that's what that's what made sense to me.

844
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: And then in terms of the two safeties, Malachi Starks,

845
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I have not heard one person that

846
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: interviewed him or talked to him at the comp line

847
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: from all that didn't love him like not like him,

848
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: like just loved him in terms of the intelligence, the

849
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: ability to communicate what he sees going through his tape,

850
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: the leadership that the background information they've got coming out

851
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: of the school. So he's a He's a real fluid,

852
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: smooth athlete who can play as the free safety. He

853
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: can cover in the slot. We're gonna be a little

854
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 3: bit better in coverage in the slot. Even Warry is

855
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: a big, hulking dude, He's not gonna be quite as nimble,

856
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: uh to redirect like that. And and even Warry worked

857
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: out great. He makes a ton of plays on the ball,

858
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: kind of buzzing underneath things kind of as a floater

859
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: and it's going to be an excellent butzer and he's

860
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: a he's a phenomenal player. But I just think with

861
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 3: Malachi Starks as someone that that teams, coaches, personnel, guys

862
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: that have met with him, there's there's there's a lot

863
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 3: of love for him out there.

864
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Starks to the Dolphins. I should have mentioned at thirteen.

865
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 3: Well, Holland Goney.

866
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 4: That's that's a fun fit.

867
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: But man em and worry to the Vikings just as

868
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: a I want to see that with Brian Flores and

869
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, you cut him.

870
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: Loose and let him blitz. He might have eight ten

871
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: sacks next year if they if he went there.

872
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: You're making fun of me for the pronunciation, and you should,

873
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: but I take this seriously.

874
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 4: I'm going to self scout.

875
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to improve from this week to the next

876
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: because I hate it when people are making jokes about

877
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: not getting the pronunciation right. Like John McEnroe has no

878
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: idea of these guys names who are like in the

879
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: top thirty.

880
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 4: It's your job learn the names, do better.

881
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying, wait, wait, wait, wait to criticize. You know

882
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: one of the legends of the game mc androe, like,

883
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: we're going to go after McEnroe at this point, you

884
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: want to next.

885
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Bodcasts ahead, know, anyone outside the top five. He gets

886
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: clearly bored by it. As Iroku, I was ready for

887
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: that name. I just love that I could see him

888
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: as a Tampa Bay buccaneer. He was not in your

889
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: mock draft at all, and now he's all the way

890
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: up to nineteen. It's what they need, a guy who

891
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: can bend the edge. Maybe not you know, as big

892
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: a player, but some real pass rush skills.

893
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: He fits to me what Tampa Bay wants to do.

894
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: Why why did he jump so much? Is it just

895
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: about the team fit?

896
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's in He's in that range on my

897
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: top fifty list, so kind of where I have him stacked.

898
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: And I also he's another one who just he knows

899
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: how to play, he knows how to rush. He's got

900
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: tons of production, he's got long arms which I love

901
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: coming off the edge, and had a really solid week

902
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl. Coaches that were around him there

903
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: at the Senior Bowl, he really really enjoyed being around him.

904
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: And I know, you know, just Jason light in his

905
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: background in his history and talking to him over the years,

906
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: I know he values production. So it's not only just

907
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 3: kind of the traits that you have, the long arms,

908
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: and he loves the fact of, you know, historically guys

909
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: that know how to finish and can win and get

910
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: the job done and finished with sacks and that's what

911
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: he does.

912
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, just a couple of players.

913
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned that there were players that were on

914
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: your last mock draft that are no longer with us,

915
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: at least in this show.

916
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 3: You say it like that goodness stream still alive, Greg.

917
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you feel bad?

918
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: You know, q up Bone Thugs and Harmony Crossroads here,

919
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan Nolan, he was twelfth on your last mock

920
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: he's no longer there. Tyler Booker, the guard from Alabama,

921
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: he was at thirteen, he's no longer on it.

922
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: And then some guys that were towards the.

923
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: End of the draft like Amika Buca, who you had

924
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: at twenty five before Treveon Henderson was at twenty four,

925
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Darius Alexander.

926
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: Does that any of these names stand out to you?

927
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me give you some information. Let me give

928
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: you some information. So this is literally as we're doing

929
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: this in the stadium in San Frisco with the big

930
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: twelve combine. That's again that's the voice you're hearing in

931
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 3: the background as they're finishing up their workout. But Alabama

932
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 3: had their Pro Day today. Booker did not have a

933
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: good combine, like actually really poor combine in terms of

934
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: the testing. His ten time at the combine was I

935
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: believe was a one to nine six for his ten

936
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: time and then he was one eight seven I believe today.

937
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: So that's from from guys who are there at the

938
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: pro day, so much better for him. Uh definitely helped

939
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: himself with that performance. Yeah, his tens were his two runs.

940
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: So I think Booker get he'll get back in, He'll

941
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: get back into the latter third. I would say of

942
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 3: the first round. Walter Nolan. Again, there's some of those guys,

943
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart, Walter Nolan. There's pinions all over the map

944
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 3: on these guys.

945
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

946
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: So again it's it's that type of a draft greg

947
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: where you you can see boards stacked so differently, more

948
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: so than any other year normally. There's kind of a

949
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: these are the top fifteen picks. I don't know how

950
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna come off, but these fifteen players are likely

951
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: to go in the first fifteen spots this year.

952
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 4: There's nothing that makes it more fun.

953
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: It also makes it great for people like me who

954
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: like the mock drafters to just go up and flames

955
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: little shouting.

956
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: I think it's anybody, have they ever? Not like you

957
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: get celebrated on a mock draft if you get if

958
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: you got like ten guys out of thirty two, that's

959
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: a heck of a mock draft.

960
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: That's fair. Yeah, and you you had like last time. Mean,

961
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: this is how free agency affects things a lot. You

962
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 1: had Trevion Henderson going to the Vikings. Now they get

963
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, they trade for Jordan Mason.

964
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: It is clear at Travion Henderson, that's.

965
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: How Yeah, it was a great player, but that fit

966
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: is absolutely out. And then you're looking at teams the

967
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: back end of the first round, not as many. I

968
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: think that would take a running back. Let's look at

969
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: the biggest risers. This is our last graphic if you

970
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: are well.

971
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: First of all, First of all, yeah, do you find

972
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: it funny that I think we're signed up to do

973
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: ten shows?

974
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

975
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 3: And it's the two guys right, and we're going to

976
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: at forties and free agents like the draft and freezency.

977
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: We're going to do two of the ten shows on

978
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: free agency in eight on the draft. I mean, I

979
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what that says.

980
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the marriage of the two. I

981
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: just brought up some Coldstone awesome in no and it

982
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: was an It was nice if you know.

983
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 3: It was nice, you know, as we're three quarters the

984
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: way through the show for you to contribute. I appreciate it.

985
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: That was a good nugget. I appreciate.

986
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Camp Robinson was another thing. He was a guy who

987
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: I think I might have rated too high. You know,

988
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: I listened to you, you say, push those offensive linemen

989
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: around earlier. I kind of did that in my top

990
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: one hundred, and Cam Robinson was in my top thirty.

991
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: NFL teams did not agree with me, I don't think.

992
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: But he did get twelve thirteen million dollars.

993
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: It's going to be a starting he's going to be

994
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: starting left tackle. It's going to get a decent money.

995
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: That makes me feel better.

996
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is just out there and he's just laughing

997
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: at me. Let's look finally at the biggest risers from

998
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: their previous version, Jihad Campbell all the way up to

999
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: number nine. From twenty nine, Malachi Starks we mentioned went

1000
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: from thirty two to thirteen, Matthew Golden up to twelve,

1001
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: Genti from twenty one up to six, and then as

1002
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: a rocker with a lot of the guys we mentioned

1003
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: up all the way to nineteen. Campbell to the Saints

1004
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: is really interesting to me. Here's my question about the

1005
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: Saints that maybe you're not in position to answer.

1006
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: I know if you are or not. Who do you

1007
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 4: think really as the juice there in the building.

1008
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Like, on one hand, I want to think, Okay, Kellen Moore,

1009
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: new offense, we're going to have a new approach, new

1010
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Brandon Staley, all this stuff. But then I

1011
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: look at what they're doing this offseason and it's just like, oh, yeah,

1012
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: these are the same old Saints. Mickey Loomis is a

1013
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: very important person in that building. So when you're pick

1014
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: making these picks, for instance, Jihad Campbell, like, are you

1015
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: thinking about what the old Saints would do or the

1016
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: new Saints? I want to know who has the juice

1017
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: in that building. That's just a bigger question than I have.

1018
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, ultimately, Mickey does. But I do think

1019
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: that as a first you know, first time, first year

1020
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: new head coach for the Saints, I would think they're

1021
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: not going to do anything that Kellen Moore doesn't want

1022
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 3: to do. So I think a lot of times people

1023
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: ask that question, like who has the power? I'll say, well,

1024
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: I've never worked for a team where we took a

1025
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: player in the first round that our coaches didn't like.

1026
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: You know, so even if we might have higher grades

1027
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: on the personnel, there's enough guys to pick from. We

1028
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: can find somebody that we both like. So I think

1029
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: that is a little bit more of a collaboration. Now.

1030
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: The interesting thing on Jihad Campbell turn that thing in.

1031
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 3: You know, a few days ago, mock draft comes out.

1032
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: Alabama has their pro day today. He announces it the

1033
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: pro day that he just had labor labor surgery, I

1034
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: believe right after the combine. So he's gonna be down

1035
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: for a little bit. I don't think that will impact,

1036
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: you know, how high he goes. He should have a

1037
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: chance to be fully recovered. But uh, you know, it's

1038
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: the medical part of this thing. Is is something we

1039
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: won't know, so that uh you know, that's a that's

1040
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on with him.

1041
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be an interesting pick for that. I

1042
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: guess they have needs everywhere in theory because they don't

1043
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: have a lot of young core players and so.

1044
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 3: Getting young and fast. They need to get young and

1045
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: fast and athletic, and I think Johid Campbell gives them

1046
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: that and someone who can do a lot.

1047
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: Of different things. I want.

1048
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: I want some offensive linemen, I want some weapons. I

1049
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: want some offensive players. I want to I want a quarterback.

1050
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: And I look at my linebacker position and you know,

1051
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: they just renegotiated to Mario Davis again. They renegotiated Pete

1052
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: Warner again. And those are two good players to me.

1053
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: This dude can rush off the edge. You could literally

1054
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: line him up as an outside linebacker. He might get

1055
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: you twelve sacks next year. So really, that's kind of

1056
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 3: the unique part about Campbell. Well, he can. He was

1057
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: recruited he was an edge rusher and high school. Was

1058
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: recruited there as an edge rusher. But what do you

1059
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: do when you show up to campus and you've got

1060
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: two first round picks as your edge rushers at Alabama,

1061
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: They're not gonna you know, he wasn't gonna get on

1062
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: the field, so they moved him off the ball. And

1063
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: then this last year he got a chance to rush

1064
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more, but he was there with Dallas

1065
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: Turner and Will Anderson, so that's why he ended up

1066
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: moving off the ball.

1067
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: Okay, since we're getting into this year and I know

1068
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: it's a little more draft than free agency, doesn't he profile?

1069
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 4: Didn't he look like an off ball.

1070
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Linebacker, like comparing him to Jalen Walker for instance, who

1071
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: played at multiple positions, and I think you see, you

1072
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: can kind of see man, that guy could be Mike,

1073
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: Michael Parks whatever. He's going to be an explosive edge

1074
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: type of guy. Wasn't Campbell just such? It's a good

1075
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker that that's where most of the league

1076
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: will see him.

1077
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: He's taller than uh, taller than Jalen Walker. He's I

1078
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: believe longer than Jalen Walker. And he can really rush

1079
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: like he knows how to rush. So yeah, no, he

1080
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: would fit right in. You throw him outside and let

1081
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: him rush, he will not look out of place at all.

1082
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 4: We haven't gotten a chance of talk.

1083
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: And you mentioned Cooper cup is just slide into your

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Speaker 1: DMS or his social media manager is what did you

1085
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Speaker 1: think of that move? By the way, I'm just throwing

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Speaker 1: this at you at the last second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I talked about it. I talked about it

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Speaker 3: last week. I liked it. I thought they would sign

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00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: Garrett Bradbury as well, which they didn't end up going

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Speaker 3: to New England, but they did end up getting the

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Speaker 3: Cooper cup don And I want to say that I

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00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: asked you what you thought the number would be. You

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00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: weren't right. I said it would be fifteen, and it

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Speaker 3: ended up being exactly fifteen. But neither neither here nor there.

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Speaker 3: I do like the fact of putting smart sure handed

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Speaker 3: receiver with JSN, who's a smart, sure handed receiver. I

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Speaker 3: think you're going to be able to do a lot

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Speaker 3: of different things, be able to read things on the go.

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Speaker 3: People wonder that sometimes about that, like well, what who

1100
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Speaker 3: cares if you're smart, just just run your route catch

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know. Look, you get guys that can really sighted

1104
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Speaker 3: just and can see things the same way as a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: It does give you some some more opportunity there. You've

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Speaker 3: got two guys who have done a tonnel work in

1107
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Speaker 3: the slot. With him and JSN, I think they'll I

1108
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Speaker 3: think they'll be able to move them around, you know,

1109
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Speaker 3: get get at least one of them, obviously in more

1110
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Speaker 3: than one of them are not in Canada, but we

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Speaker 3: get one of those guys on the move to kind

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Speaker 3: of free them up. Now, I like that fit in

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Speaker 3: the middle. They need to get somebody now on the outside,

1114
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Speaker 3: preferably somebody with some real speed. I think they signed

1115
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Speaker 3: MVS right that they signed signed Valdez Scantling. Yeah, so

1116
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Speaker 3: that's theoretically, that's that's the compliment you need for those

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00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 3: two players. You need somebody that can get over the top,

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Speaker 3: outside and out. And I had them taking you know, Loveland.

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Speaker 3: So now you know, if somehow that were to work

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Speaker 3: out that way, I mean, you completely overhauled your your

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00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: pass catchers if that's if that's what ends up happening.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we we talked about that as a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing too many shows these days, but we didn't

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Speaker 1: We didn't know for sure. You just knew because you

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Speaker 1: knew more than the insiders.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Ian Rappaport is out there on the ski slopes

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Speaker 1: and DJ is breaking it down carrying us. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone tuning in. We will be back next week on

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Speaker 1: forties and free agents. I will try to carry more

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Speaker 1: of my load here, of the share.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's do it, DJA.

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Speaker 3: How about just someplow, just just a little bit, just.

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Speaker 1: A little effort that I was setting you up and

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Speaker 1: you were spiking them down there.

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Speaker 3: You go, well per half, right,