WEBVTT - Dean on One Knee 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:10.160 Hell I Suck At Dating with Dean Anglert and Dared 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:16.799 Haven and I heard radio podcast. Hey, welcome to a 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:23.320 very very very special episode of Help I Suck At Dating. 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:26.279 We've been doing this podcast for quite some time now, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.920 and throughout that time, uh, you have seen both Dean 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.840 and myself be single. You have seen us both being 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:41.400 committed relationships from paradise. You have seen me get engaged 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.760 married and have our wonderful little boy, Dawson. And now 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.920 on this episode today, October two thousand and twenty two, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.840 whatever episode it is of Help I Second Dating, we 0:00:55.880 --> 0:01:00.200 can say that Dean Angler Deanie Babies is engaged to 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:07.800 Kaylin Miller. Keys. Have a round of applause, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Dean, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.360 how you doing, buddy? Congratulations? Well, first off, Jared, you 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.399 look twenty years younger right now because I shaved. I 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.320 don't think i've seen your cheek or your jaw bones 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.600 in five years. I mean it's been at least that long. 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.360 So we did Batman for Halloween, so I had to 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.560 shave down really show off the jaw. You know, I 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.840 gotta gotta get myself into that Robert Pattinson mode. But 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.000 this is not about me. It's not about me shaving 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.480 or looking young or tired or dead on the inside. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:41.759 This is about you. Uh, dean, dude. Congratulations, man, it's awesome. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.760 You're engaged. Dude, you're engaged your fiance. Yeah, I know, 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:51.040 we're engaged. It doesn't feel any different though, to be 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.280 honest with you, because I've already worn the wedding ring 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:56.120 for three years, we have already owned a house together 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.960 for two years. But don't get me wrong, it is beautiful. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.720 I am very happy be engaged. Um. I know there's 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.800 always been a lot of like questions about whether we 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.720 just secretly eloped and got married to each other, And 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.400 so that's kind of why it's like, while I do 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:17.160 feel different and happy and excited, it doesn't I don't know, 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:18.799 it doesn't. It doesn't if it doesn't feel like there 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:20.680 was like it wasn't as big of a step as 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.880 like a normal relationship would have taken. Because we've already 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.480 taken that big step. I feel like, you know, So 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.560 my first question to you is did you actually lose 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:33.040 the ring or was that a whole lie that you had. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.160 I saw people like commenting that I I have lost it. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.919 If I have lost the ring. I am going to 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:45.400 find it. Uh. It's funny because I asked Kalin with 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.160 I got like a cute little half carrot diamond and 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:49.799 like like not in an emerald cut because I don't 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.399 think you can make an emerald cut ring that's small. 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:58.120 And ask Kalin and it's like holding the ring up 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.040 and she like leaned over and put her hands on 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.639 her knees and like looking at it. And I wasn't 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.079 sure if she was looking at it because she wanted 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.320 to see if it was like the ring that I 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.240 claimed to have lost, or if she was just sizing 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.880 it up or whatever. And I like felt kind of insecure, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.160 like she was like staring at it um and then 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.600 sure enough it was just she was like taking off 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:16.960 her ring that she was wearing so I could put 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.160 that ring on her. But then she was like, let's 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.680 take pictures of it, like we were like the beach 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.320 at sunset, and I was like, I don't want to 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.919 take pictures of this ring because I'm embarrassed by how 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.720 small it is. It don't be embarrassing. I mean you 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.480 should be embarrassed you lost the ring, not by the 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.840 size of the new ring. Yeah, well I am I 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.080 am embarrassed by both things. And the new ring is 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.840 cool too. I was like talking to the guy about 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.440 it from He was like, yeah, once you find the 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.080 old ring, you can just bring this one back and 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.080 we'll turn into like a necklace or something. So I've 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.240 decided if I find the new the old ring, then 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.160 I'll get the new ring made into a necklace for me. Obviously, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.440 would you wear it as that'd be kind of cute 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:54.280 if you wore it as a necklace. Yeah. And then 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.680 I was thinking too, instead of getting her an engagement ring, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.200 I wanted to get her an engagement necklace. That way 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.360 we didn't have to trans any diamond at all. But 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.120 then I was like, no, that's a little too abstract. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:04.840 I'm gonna stick with the ring. I'm gonna keep it 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.800 a little traditional. I guess what you could do is 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.280 you could turn the ring that you actually proposed with 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.320 into a necklace, like you said, and have it be 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.880 like a family heirloom. So if you guys decided to 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.039 have kids, you could pass that down and say this 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.880 is the actual diamond that I proposed to your mother with, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.040 and then this is the one that I lost, and 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.200 this is the one that I lost the big gass 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.279 one is the one that I lost. So she wears 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.400 the mom wears that one. Yeah, Mom, because she's not 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.920 gonna lose that one. Um. Yeah. So that was how 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:39.080 that all went. I um uh, it was a fun hike. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:41.080 I want to get Kalin on here at something. Yeah, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.800 I want Kalin on here too. My question is, do 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.080 you for you did an eleven mile hike? Did you 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.200 do that on purpose because you really wanted her just 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.960 to be It's the most deean thing to have her 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:54.280 be completely exhausted, sweaty, tired, annoyed at you, And then 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.000 that's when you just turned it all around and propose. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.040 I figured I've tested her so much, there had to 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.640 have been one final test for her. So she survives, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.640 she gets the ring, and she passed. She passed the 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.720 test barely, though there were times. There were time I 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.520 don't want to have her on this podcast episode, but 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:13.839 I do want to have her on at some point 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.280 in the future and have her like recount her experience 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.320 because my experience and her experience are gonna be very different. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.880 We So it's eleven miles and the weather was perfect, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.760 it was beautiful, sunny, well, it was twenty two miles. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:32.080 I guess she's because it's eleven miles in and eleven 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.880 miles out, and so there's like a halfway point that 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.040 you can hike too, so it's six miles in in camp, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.279 and then you finished the next five miles the next day. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.440 And so the first day we get it, we kind 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.080 of start late because we had a couple of things 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.040 to do in the morning, and then we start hiking 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.000 and then we get to the halfway point and we're like, wow, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.240 that was a tough day, but we're here. Let's cook 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.160 some food. I cooked us up some sausages and some vegetables. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:58.800 It was delicious. And then we woke up the next 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.719 day and started the next part of the trek. And 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.800 that part is like the infamous part of the trek. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.280 It's called Crawler's Ledge. It's like a mile long track 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:13.919 of like sheer cliff on one side. And I I 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.680 personally thought it was fine. I didn't have an issue 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.880 with it. I want to I can't stress that enough. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.479 I didn't have an issue with it. Um Kalin, on 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.599 the other hand, the other party did have an issue 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:30.600 with it. Yes. Kalin on the other hand, was very 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.560 angry at me for taking her there. She asked if 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.120 we could turn around fifty five times, and eventually I 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.920 just started saying, yeah, let's turn around. If you want 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.560 to turn around, let's turn around. And but she didn't. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.640 I mean credit to her, because she was crying, she 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:51.520 was angry, she was cursing at me, but she stuck 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:56.640 with it and she eventually finished it. Um, so yeah, 0:06:56.680 --> 0:06:59.680 it was. It was a it was a trying experience. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.320 It's I was thinking, too, it's pretty funny, um to 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.360 make the person that you're gonna ask to marry you 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.920 cry on the day that you're going to propose to them. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.280 Cried for like a like an hour that day. You 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:11.920 want to make them cry, but you don't want to 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.440 make them cry out of pain and sheer sadness. You know, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.520 it's supposed to be happy tears that day, right. And 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.120 I did everything too. I like, I moved all of 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.000 her stuff into my backpack so she didn't need to 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.400 wear a backpack. I walked ahead a mile, put my 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.120 backpack down, came back with no backpack. That way I 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.480 could like like spot her as she moved along the cliffs. 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.280 I was doing everything. I was working over time. I 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.320 was trying to encourage her as best I can. But 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.440 it wasn't I mean, it was scary. They were scary 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.480 points I could see, like I could see someone getting 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:46.480 scared in those points, in those moments when you would 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.400 say it was scary, Do you think it was scary 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.000 because they she could have died. Yeah, she could have died. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.680 Oh my god, you're an insane man. People die on 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.800 this hike like semi regularly. Um, this is the hike 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.600 you chose. As far as it was beautiful, it was beautiful, 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.200 the pictures look great. We got lucky. So we did 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.160 the crawler's ledge section. It was perfect weather. If you 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.920 crossed it like the rain and it's all slippery and muddy, 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.440 that's when it's really really dangerous. But it's still like 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.280 it's just it's a body wide, single dirt path and 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.559 it's like, as long as you just stay on that path, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.880 you're not gonna fall off the path. But I could 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.000 see why, like if you're if you get a wandering 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:28.440 eye and your eye wanders off to the side a 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:29.760 little bit and you can see, oh, there's a two 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.920 ft cliff over here. If I make one bad step, 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.480 then I could see how that gets in your head anyways. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:40.040 So we were doing that and I kept encouraging her. 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.800 If she wanted to stop, we could stop, We could 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.880 turn around, we could go back to the trailhead, we 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.640 could find a hotel. And I was like, I was 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.320 kind of it was kind of like a reverse psychology thing. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:51.920 I was thinking. I was like, if I tell her 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.720 we can return around, there's no way in how she's 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.760 gonna want to turn around. And there was like three 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.880 moments where I was like, Damn, she's really she's she 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.040 is really pushing herself here to the like to the utmost, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:05.199 like to the full brink of what she can do. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.800 And I swear to God, I was like, she's gonna 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.280 ask to turn around, and I would have had no 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:10.760 choice but to like turn around with her, and we 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.360 would have gone back and figured something else out. But um, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.040 I do I like I did. I want to give 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:18.840 her as much credit as possible because it's easy for 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.720 me to do stuff like that because I'm not scared 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.640 of it. But it's much more challenging for someone that 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.240 is scared of it to still push through evan and 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:27.920 then do it. And she had no idea that I 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:32.800 was gonna engage too, So getting proposed, I guess, so, um, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:34.720 like she's just thinking, what was going on a random hike? 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.960 And like I'd be pretty piste too if I was 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.000 doing something that I didn't really want to do for 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.520 some reason that I didn't really know, you know, did 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.480 you have a plan B? What if she was like, Dean, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.920 I'm done, I'm turning around, we have to leave right now. Yeah, 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:51.680 I didn't have a plan B. But once she started 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.439 saying that she want to turn around, I started thinking 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.000 of what a plan B would have been. And I 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.439 don't think I really thought of anything good. So thankfully 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.440 there was no need for it. But so okay, So 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.720 on date. So we did through three nights. On the 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:09.360 first day we hiked halfway and slept. On the second 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.440 day was the day that I planned the proposing, and 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.920 so we finished the hike to the beach. We started 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.719 kind of early that day, at like seven am, and 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.240 then we got to the beach around like noon, and 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.599 so I was like, great, I've got six hours to 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.720 figure out where I want to propose, set up the camera, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.920 do the whole spiel, the whole proposal spiel, and Caitlin, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:36.079 fortunately for me, unfortunately for her, she was struggling, so 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.040 she laid down in the tent for like an hour 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.400 and took a nap and took some medicine. She had 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.440 a headache and her legs retired and all that stuff. 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.079 And I was like, great, this gives me time to 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.640 go out and explore figure out where I want to 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.040 do it because I've never been there before. I didn't 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.319 really know anything about it, and walked around scouted at 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.080 the location. I was like, Okay, cool, this is where 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.200 I want to do it. So I go back to 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.680 the campsite and um, she's like still struggling a little bit. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:00.959 I was like, let me cook you some food. So 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.160 we cook her some food, and then an hour later, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.600 it's like three pm, and I was like, let's just 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.680 take a nice walk on the beach. I found this 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.000 really cool spot. I want to get cute pictures of us, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.640 and so she like walks down to the beach and 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.320 I was like, go stand over there near that rock 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.520 or like near those that rock wall, and she was like, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.360 you want to walk all the way over there. I 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.000 was like, walk all the way over there. You've walked 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:24.920 eleven miles so far, what's another hundred feet? Anyways, so 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:30.199 she goes and stands out there and um start taking pictures. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:31.920 And then I was like, okay, hang on one second, 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.800 I'm gonna set up the self timer. I'm gonna run 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.280 out there next to you. And then I like, go 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.320 out there next to her, give her the good side 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:39.719 because we both have the same good side, which is 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.480 pretty unfortunate for me. And uh, you've got a good side, 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.719 I imagine, right. Yeah, I like to be on my 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.040 I like to have my left showing, so do I 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.280 and so does Kalin. Yeah. I think that's everybody's good side. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.040 Nobody likes to have their right Why is nobody like 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.520 this profile on there right? But everybody likes to have 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.679 their left profile. You wanna what's funny? Even you just 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.000 showing me those two profiles. I agree, your left side 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.319 is your good side. Yeah, my left side and my 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.679 good side. I don't know why. What is Ashley's a 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:12.360 good side? Uh? Her left, damn it? Yeah, her left? 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.640 Because every picture I was just thinking about pictures of 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.240 her and everything, she's on my left. So, no wonder 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.720 I don't like myself in pictures. I'm showing my poor side. Yeah, 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.880 and you probably didn't even realize that she's always snaking 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.600 the good side from me, and she just comes right up. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.600 We'll swop off. So like if she's had the good 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.240 side for a couple of times, and I'll take the 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.480 good side, got it. But obviously an engagement, she gets 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.800 the good side. For this, I knew that I had 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:47.000 to give her the good side. So I ran out 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.520 there and I was like, oh, I saw this TikTok 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.920 trend where you stand facing away from each other and 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.559 then you count to three and you turn around. It's 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.000 like a fun candid shot and I have like there's 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.400 just a self time or like just taking a bunch 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.120 of a bunch of pictures every every second from are 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.680 far away. And so she's like three to one and 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.240 we turned around and jump and then I was like, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.079 oh no, no, no, wait, we can do better than that. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.079 And so then I turned back around and I grabbed 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.080 the ring out of my pocket and she's like three 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.160 to one and we jump around and I was on 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:18.679 one knee and I said, that's so sweet, man, it 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.640 was pretty cute. I guess I, um, yeah, I did 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.520 you know. Never thought this day would come. I never 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:29.960 thought I would uh propose to Miss North Carolina on 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.680 a beach in Hawaii, but here, we are here, we 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.400 are here, you are So what made you want to 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.520 choose that beach because you've never been there before? You 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.600 just maybe saw them pictures and said that's where I 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.280 want to propose. They kind of worked out in a 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.400 weird way. So we were we were in Oahu like 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.800 three or four months ago for a wedding and we 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.640 went to Kauai afterwards. And in Kauai we did like 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.480 a helicopter tour of the Neapoli coast. And I've always 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.800 my brother had done that hike like seven years ago, 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.200 and he's always raved about it. So I got on 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.880 the website and I looked at permits because you need 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.480 you need a reserve permits for the hike, and there 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:12.200 was a date window from October three to October and 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.559 I was like, wow, that's really cool because October is 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.439 a special date for me because that's like the anniversary 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.880 of my mom passing away. And so I saw those 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.600 dates on we were like booking the reservation on the 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.120 airplane as we were leaving Kauai that time for you know, 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.320 for three months in the future, and I was like, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.120 you know what, that'd probably be a pretty pretty cool 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.400 time to propose, And so that's just kind of how 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:39.680 that sprung into action. Did you propose? Actually pretty cool 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.760 story too. So so is the anniversary of my mom 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.120 passing away. It's been sixteen years. And every time I 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.760 see a feather, I'm reminded that my mom is with 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.240 me in some way. Every time I go and do something, uh, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.200 and there are feathers all over the place, so sure, 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.840 like whatever, I can find a feather wherever. Um. Every 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.760 time I'm doing something dangerous like rock climbing or skydiving 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.680 or something like, if I'm rock climbing, I'll come I'll 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.520 be like scared in a moment, and I'll like climb 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:07.960 up a little bit and I'll see a feather to 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.640 my right and I'm like, wow, cool, my mom is 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:13.000 watching me. I'm safe or or or she's with me. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.280 So like I feel comfortable because I know she's here 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.960 with me. So I proposed to calin and I was like, oh, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.480 this is cool cave over here. I want us to 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.080 go just explore that and cook around it for a 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.000 little bit. And I like go into the cave to 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.880 set up a picture real quick, and she's climbing up 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.920 this little sand dune and this perfect, full fluffy feather 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.200 just rolls right on by Caylin's feet and we and 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.360 there was never a feather on this beach or on 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.960 the hike up until this moment. The very first feather 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.480 we saw was ten minutes after I proposed, and so 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.040 I was like, oh my gosh, that's awesome. That's my 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.480 mom saying that she is with us and that she 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.960 approves of of what we're doing. So I was like, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.080 that's really cool. So I kept a feather Calin's got 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.760 up for my birthday last year or something. She got 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.520 me a little display case for a special feather, which 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.240 is so random, like who gets a special display case 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:01.840 for a feather? And I was like, well, I don't 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.160 have just a random feather. That's so meaningful to me. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.200 I want to put it in this case, But now 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.000 I do. Isn't that awesome that she just got it 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.200 out and she just showed it out? Uh so yeah, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:15.520 so my mom approves. She is stoked. I'm stoked, and 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:21.080 Cayln is stoked. Um, but that's beautiful, man, that really is. Yeah, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.400 it's it's pretty. It's pretty cool. I guess. Yeah, it's okay, 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.920 admitting that, you know, I mean it's to have your 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.080 subject and like to do it on you know, that day. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.360 I don't know, it feels like almost uh certainly not 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:38.640 I mean it's not my place to say, but ah, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:43.600 certainly not like turning the page. That's not what I 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.480 mean at all, But just like a really yeah, um, 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:52.560 great moment for you, uh right with your mom and Caitlyn. Yeah, sure, 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.880 I I appreciate you choosing your words carefully. They're not 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.440 that you can say anything that would make me like 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.360 offendit or anything like that. But but yeah, it was 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.680 a nice moment. You know. It's it's always a hard 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.160 time of year for me, this time of year because 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.119 I was get really depressed because I just be reminded 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.320 about how I lost her a long time ago, and 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.600 so I wanted to turn the memory of this day. 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.720 I wanted to be more positive and I want to 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.320 start associating that date with more positive things, and this 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.560 was my way of doing that. And I kind of 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.000 was thinking too as I was like going down there, 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.960 like there is a little bit of selfishness in that, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.280 Like Cayle, probably, I don't know though, Like Caleen, I'm 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.879 sure it is very happy and would have taken it 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.040 on any day, and she loves being part of this. 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.840 But I do kind of feel like slightly selfish that 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.320 I'm like using her to cheer me up because my 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.520 mom's dad, you know, that's what she wants. I can't imagine, 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:57.520 Kalen would ever want you to not propose on your 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.200 mother's anniversary because you feel selfish. You know, Listen, when 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.880 you go into a relationship, you're in the relationship because 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.480 you love the other person. You want them to be happy, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.479 and you want to be a part of the reason 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.800 why they're happy. And I think you proposing on that 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:19.000 specific day, I bet makes Kalin feel even more special. Yeah, 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:20.639 she did just wave her finger and she said, no, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.119 it doesn't make me feel weird at all. Uh. And 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.399 then I told her, I was like, I want to 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.920 get married on until next year because I don't want 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.160 to be I don't want to have an engagement anniversary, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:34.840 a wedding anniversary, of first day anniversary, the too many 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:39.000 do you celebrate all of those? Actually, just acknowledge them, dude. Actually, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.680 Like throughout the year, she be She'll be like, oh, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.840 today's the anniversary where we first met. I'm like, oh, 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.920 she's like, you don't remember. I'm like, no, I just 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.760 there's a lot, there's a lot to remember these days. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:52.439 And then it's like, this is the day that we 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:55.000 got engaged, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, it's that 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.479 time of June, isn't it. Okay, that's great. You know, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.680 it's like how many anniverse suasan birthdays and holidays could 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.960 there possibly be? And she I told her, I said, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.359 we have one anniversary now, that is it. It is 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.640 our wedding anniversary anniversary. That's the day. That's the day 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.359 we celebrate when you know, a nice little kiss, being like, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.359 oh we got engaged five years ago. Great, love you, Okay, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.920 moving on with my life. And what is the wedding anniversary? 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:25.200 August twelve, eleventh? Oh so close. So that was good, bro, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.600 it was good August eleven. So not to talk about wedding, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.880 but you're thinking October, h yeah. But then I told 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.639 Kyleen Matt and she was like, well, we can't do that. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.720 We can't do that because next year October is a Tuesday, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.040 and no one wants to go to a wedding on 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.359 a Tuesday. I mean, there would be nothing more dean 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.240 than to get married and get married on a Tuesday. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.760 I would I love that so much. You make a 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.720 good point, um, so maybe we just do it like 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.399 the weekend before. I don't know exactly what we would do, 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.280 but we have a nervous venues will be cheap. 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