1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today, Karen. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: Stocks are continuing their recovery from Monday's massive selloff, with 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: futures higher following yesterday's one percent gain for the S 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: and P five hundred. All major groups in the index 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: rows still. Stefold chief economist Lindsay PEGSA says there is 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: major concern about the health of the US economy. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think the risk of recession is still very real. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: I would put it in double digit territory, around twenty 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 4: five to thirty percent when we look out to twenty 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: twenty five and beyond. But my bigger concern is not 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: that the US economy falls into negative territory or an 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: outright recession, but the notion that we allow the economy 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: to slow but the FED continues to tolerate above target inflation. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: Steve Fold, chief economists Lindsay Pegs and traders are moderating 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: expectations of deep FED rate cuts this year, SWAP's point 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: to around one hundred and five basis points of easing. 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: That compares to as much as one hundred and fifty 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: basis points on Monday. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Well Nathan Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon says market should 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: not count on the FED stepping in with an emergency 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: right cut. In an upcoming episode of the David Rubinstein 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Show peer to peer Conversation, Solomon said he doubts the 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Fed would act before September. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 5: The market expectation is certainly for cuts in the fall. 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 5: I've been more cautious around inter straight cuts all year. 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: As you remember, the market expectation early in the year 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 5: was for six of seven cuts based on the economic 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 5: data we're seen now in the messaging from the Fed. 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: You know, I think it's likely that we'll see a 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: cut or two in the fall, but I think you've 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 5: still got to wait and see as things unfold. 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: And Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon added the stock market 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: correction might be healthy, and he forecasts more volatility to come. 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 6: In Asia. 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Karen, Japanese stocks rose more than one percent. A Bank 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: of Japan officials sent a strong duffish signal by pledging 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: to refrain from hiking interest rates when markets are unstable. 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: Those words follow major moves in the end in record 41 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: breaking swings in Japanese stocks following last week's rate hike. 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: Nimura's executive officer and head of wholesale, Christopher Wilcox, defended 43 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: the BOJ. 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 7: I would say that the BOJ has been completely vindicated. 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 7: They always knew that this unwind was going to be 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 7: very difficult. That's why they've been so slow and so cautious. 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 7: And yes, that puts some pressure on the end for 48 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 7: a little while. And think about the carry trade. The 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 7: point of the carry trade is that if they didn't 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 7: start to move, the carry trade would only have got bigger. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 7: The end disruption of the unwinding of the carry trade 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 7: would have been even bigger. So I think the BOJ 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 7: is playing it extremely smartly. 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: Namura' Christopher Wilcock says the three day meltdown in Japan's 55 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: stocks adds up to one point one trillion dollars wiped out. 56 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: That is the equivalent of Sweden's entire stock market. 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we'll have more on the markets than just 58 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: a moment. But now let's get to the latest in 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: the presidential race. Democratic nominee Kamala Harris has introduced her 60 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: new running made Minnesota Governor Tim Waaltz set a rally 61 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: in a swing state Pennsylvania. A leader who will. 62 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 8: Help unite our nation and move us. 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: Forward, a fighter for the middle class, and Governor Waltz 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: came out fighting against former President Donald Trump. 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 9: He froze in the face of the COVID crisis. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 10: He drove our economy into the ground. And make no mistake, 67 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 10: violent crime was up under Donald Trump. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 11: That's not even counting the crimes he committed. 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: Governor Waltz is a favorite of progressives and organized labor, 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: but former Democratic National Committee CEO Amy Dacy says the 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: party is rallying behind him. 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 12: You saw a sense of energy and optimism that you 73 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 12: haven't seen you for a while with the Democratic ticket. 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 12: If you're going to advise them, is that keep thought, authenticity, 75 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 12: listen as well as speak. Make sure that you're out 76 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 12: there and understanding people's pain. 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Former DNC chief Amy Dacy notes both progressive Alexandria Casio 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: Cortez and centrist Joe Manchin are backing Waltz. The Harris 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: campaign says it raised twenty million dollars after she announced 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: her running mate, and a new poll from NPR PBS 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: News in Merist College now has Harris leading Trump nationally 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: fifty one percent to forty eight percent. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 8: Well. 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: One other political note this morning, Nathan Corey Bush lost 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: a bitter primary battle for their shrinking this squad of 86 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: House progressives. The Missouri Democrat is an outspoken critic of 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: Israel's handling of the war in Gaza. She lost to 88 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Saint Louis County prosecuting attorney Wesley Bell. According to the 89 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Associated Press, with ninety four percent of votes counted, Bell 90 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: had fifty one percent support, compare with about forty six 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: percent for Bush. 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's return to markets now, Karen, where shares 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: of the maker of a blockbuster weight loss drug are 94 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: slimming down and trading Novan Nordisk is down more than 95 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: three percent. For more, Let's go to Europe and check 96 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: in with Bloomberg's ew and Potts in London. 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 13: Ewan, Nathan, and Karen. It's Europe's most valuable company. But 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 13: Novo Nordisk has disappointed investors this morning. Revenue from weight 99 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 13: loss treatment week of He's being hit by high unexpected 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 13: price concessions in the US, It's most important market. Novo 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 13: called it a one off factor, but the size of 102 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 13: the shortfall is raising concerns among investors about growing competition 103 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 13: from American rival Eli Lilly. The market for BST drugs 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 13: is expected to reach one hundred and thirty billion dollars 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 13: by the end of the decade, but it's clear nov 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 13: Nordisk willing to fight for market share. In London, I'm 107 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 13: youn pots Bloomberg Radio, all right, ew. 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: And thank you well. Here in the US, Airbnb investors 109 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: are checking out this morning. Shares are down about sixteen percent. 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: The company gave a disappointing outlook for a third consecutive quarter. 111 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: It's also a warning of slowing demand from US vacationers, 112 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 1: assigned that travel momentum is tapering off despite the peak 113 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: summer season and. 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: Karen Shares of super Micro Computer are down more than 115 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: twelve percent. That company reported quarterly revenue and profit that 116 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: miss analyst estimates. We get the numbers from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 117 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 6: It outweighs an annual sales outlook that was billions above 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 6: Wall Street projections, profit excluding some items six twenty five 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 6: a share short of super Micro's previous forecast, and the 120 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 6: eight dollars twenty five cent average analysts estimate a jump 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: in demand for the equipment that powers artificial intelligence training 122 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: and applications has helped drive sales at super Micro, which 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 6: makes data center servers in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg. 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: Radio Right, Charlie, thank you. On the flip side, shares 125 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: of Luman Technologies are searing more than forty two percent. 126 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: The company, which provides fiber networks for artificial intelligence data processing, 127 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: says a surge in demand is leading to a surge 128 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: in sales. Luhmann also boosted its full year free cash 129 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: flow forecast a one to one point two billion dollars. 130 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: It previously saw one hundred to three hundred million. Time 131 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: to off for a look at some of the other 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: stories making news in New York and around the world, 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker, John, 134 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: good Morning. 135 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 14: And Karen. A floodwatch has now been lifted for the 136 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 14: city after as much as five inches of rain in 137 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 14: just several hours. Le Mini streets, homes and businesses in 138 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 14: the Tri State inundated last night at cold front triggered 139 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 14: severe storms. New York City officials for the first time, 140 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 14: we're using a drone to transmit emergency weather alerts to 141 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 14: residents were Bloomberg meteorologist Rob Carolyn tells us, we'll get 142 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 14: just a temporary break. 143 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 9: Well, we saw anywhere from an inch and a half 144 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 9: of rain over portions of the city to as much 145 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 9: as five inches in parts of Connecticut and New Jersey. 146 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 9: The good news is that system is pulling out this morning. 147 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 9: Rain moves out of the region very early on and 148 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 9: we'll see drier conditions. Unfortunately, though, Oyster from Debbie's going 149 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 9: to bring rain back into the tri state area later tonight, 150 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 9: and we'll see it again tomorrow and into Friday. 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 14: John the New York Posts a handful of people had 152 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 14: to be rescued from their cars at Aarhizi water trapped 153 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 14: them on the Henry Hudson Parkway and the major Diggon Expressway. 154 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 14: Hamas is named the alleged mastermind of the group's October 155 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 14: seven attack on Israel. As its new political leader. He 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 14: succeeds a key mediator who's assassination last week has set 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 14: back to cease fire talks. New York state voters support 158 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 14: banning smartphones and classrooms by a wide margin. More from Bloomberg' 159 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 14: Jeff Bellinger. 160 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 10: According to a poll from Siena College. Voters back a 161 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 10: school smartphone ban by sixty percent to thirty two percent. 162 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 10: There is growing nationwide concern that the devices distract from learning. 163 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 10: New York City School's Chancellor David Banks said heat plans 164 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 10: and across the board ban on mobile phones. Governor Kathy 165 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 10: Hockel said she intends to propose a state wide ban 166 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 10: in schools during the twenty twenty five legislative session. Some 167 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 10: New York schools that already have bans in place have 168 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 10: seen positive results, including increased grades. Jeff Bellinger, Bloomberg Radio. 169 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 14: Global News twenty four hours a day and whatever he 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 14: wanted with Bloomberg News Now, I'm John Tucker. Yeah, this 171 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 14: is Bloomberg Nathan and Karen. 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you time now for the Bloomberg 173 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Sports Update with John Stafshawer. John, good morning, Good. 174 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 11: Morning, Karen. The Mets signed a couple of the free 175 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 11: agents starting pitchers and the offseason Sean and I has 176 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 11: been really good. Luis Severino the x Yankee, not so 177 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 11: much specially lately. Sevarinos Era in July was near six. 178 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 11: First start of August, took the loss in Denver. The 179 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 11: Rockies won six to three. Yankees reigned out at the 180 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 11: stadium straight double letter with the Angels today starting at 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 11: four when Baltimore lost in Toronto, had put the Yanks 182 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 11: into sole possession of first by a half game, though 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 11: White Sox had not one of James since July tenth. 184 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 11: The twenty one game losing streak ended in Oakland. Chicago 185 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 11: won five to one, raising its season record to twenty 186 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 11: eight and eighty eight. Houston Astros got a no hitter 187 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 11: early this season from Renel Blanco. They got one last 188 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 11: season from Fraanburg Valdez. Valdez in Texas was one out 189 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 11: from another no hitter the Rangers. Kyle Seger broke it 190 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 11: up for the home three gold medals won by US athletes. 191 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 11: A neat Elore only twenty years old, she's the youngest 192 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 11: American to win Golden Women's wrestling. She outscored her opponents 193 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 11: by a combined thirty four to two. Track and field 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 11: Cole Hawker upset win in the fifteen hundred meters. Gabby 195 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 11: Thomas took the two hundred. She had competed in Tokyo 196 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 11: when there were no fans, not the case in Paris. 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 8: There is nothing like walking into a stadium of eighty 198 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 8: thousand people and they're screaming and they're right on top 199 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 8: of you. That is a lot of pressure to put 200 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 8: on someone and a lot of pressure for us to 201 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 8: kind of deal with. So it was definitely very different. 202 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 8: But it's also it made it a lot more special 203 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 8: when I crossed the line as a champion because I 204 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 8: got to share that experience with everyone. I got to 205 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 8: hear the crowd roar. 206 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 11: Men's basketball easy quarterfinal route went over Brazil one twenty 207 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 11: two to eighty seven. Next up Serbia tomorrow in the semifinals. 208 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 11: Next up for the US women's soccer gold medal Games 209 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 11: senturdaygainst Brazil and both the quarterfinals and the semis against Germany. 210 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 11: The US won one nil time, scoring the only goal 211 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 11: in extra time. John stash Allett, Bloomberg Sports. 212 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 10: County, Nape Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on 213 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 10: Sirius XM, and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com 214 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 10: and the Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 215 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 10: Vice President. 217 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is kicking off a crucial stage of her 218 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: presidential campaign with her new running mate in tow and Minnesota. 219 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: Governor Tim Waltz is already coming out swinging against Republicans 220 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Jade Vance and his first appearance as 221 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: running mate in Philadelphia. Joining us now is Tina Fordham, 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: founder and geopolitical strategist at Fordham Global Foresight. Tina, it's 223 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: great to speak with you again. This morning. Vice President 224 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: Harris introduced Governor Waltz as a fighter for the middle class. 225 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: Of course, he's been credited with coining the term weird 226 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 3: that seems to be resonating among Democrats when it comes 227 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: to messaging against the Republican ticket. What's your reaction to 228 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: his introduction out to a national audience. 229 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 15: You know, it was fascinating to watch the scenes at 230 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 15: the rally in Philadelphia. There was a lot of energy, 231 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 15: there was a very very interesting, i think, very positive 232 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 15: chemistry between Harris and Waltz. And you know, like a 233 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 15: lot of people, I didn't know much about him until 234 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 15: his name got on the short list, but he's got 235 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 15: an interesting story. But more than anything, his way of 236 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 15: framing the issues I think is really landing. The weird 237 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 15: idea is just one of those mechanisms. But also his 238 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 15: plain spokenness is. 239 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: That going to be enough, the weird messaging to go 240 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: after Trump and the Republicans. 241 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 15: You know, speaking from a political science point of view, 242 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 15: it can be a very effective tool for marginalizing your opponent. 243 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 15: You know, there are those who would say that using 244 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 15: humor or satire is childish. I don't agree. And also 245 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 15: it works a lot better than Biden's apocalyptic rhetoric, which 246 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 15: really didn't move people well. 247 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: As a governor, as a former congressman, he does have 248 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: a record. He supported free school meals, paid family leave 249 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: as governor Pennsylvania. He has kind of a nuanced stance 250 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: when it comes to China. He's got a long history 251 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: as a former teacher. There could those be vulnerabilities for 252 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 3: Governor Waltz anything. 253 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 15: It can be a vulnerability in this day and age 254 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 15: where you know, people can dredge up something that was 255 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 15: said decades ago. He's he's a vice president, he's not 256 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 15: running as a president. He's not there to bring foreign 257 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 15: policy cred to the ticket. This is a very unusual race. 258 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 15: It doesn't necessarily need to be said. They're starting late 259 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 15: in the game, and I think what Waltz brings to 260 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 15: the ticket is a lot of energy. You know, his 261 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 15: kind of football coach approached to going on offense. And 262 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 15: let's see how it resonates with voters. They if they 263 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 15: want to be part of this, And it's also a 264 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 15: generational changing of the guard. You know, they're both sixty, 265 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 15: which is young in this race as it has been 266 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 15: so far. 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting to think of sixty as young now considering 268 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: where presidential races have been in the past, other than 269 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 3: Trump and Biden, I suppose, But of course Governor Waltz 270 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: has already come out as a favorite of progressives and 271 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: blue collar workers. Was Vice President Harris really at risk 272 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: of losing that part of the Biden coalition without bringing 273 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: in someone like Waltz? Did she miss an opportunity? Why 274 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: not picking someone with more centrist appeal like Josh Shapiro 275 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: or Mark Kelly. 276 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 15: I mean, if you look at the data the Electoral College, 277 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 15: you know, power of a vice presidential candidate hasn't amounted 278 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 15: to much since you know, probably Al Gore and the 279 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 15: state of Tennessee. And so we're talking about about point 280 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 15: oh four percent. And what's more, this whole political beauty 281 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 15: pageant that the Democrats have been through have really put 282 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 15: people like Josh Shapiro, obviously, Pete Buddhajetz who already was 283 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 15: in the cabinet, Kelly and others much more prominently. So 284 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 15: there's a sense that, you know, there's a lot of 285 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 15: talent on the Democratic side to be mobilized for this. 286 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 15: I don't think that the fact that Josh Shapiro isn't 287 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 15: on the ticket means that Harris is less likely to 288 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 15: get Pennsylvania. The other thing that's interesting about Waltz, of 289 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 15: course it's less quantitative, is that he has one in 290 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 15: in red districts and in formerly red state. 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