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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. This past week,
Speaker 3: I received an email from a listener who's being told
Speaker 3: she's doing something against the Bible by researching the afterlife.
Speaker 3: I recommended people like Pastor John Burke, who you've met
Speaker 3: on this show, who has studied more than a thousand
Speaker 3: near death experiences and how they are in the Bible.
Speaker 3: Also biblical scholar, attorney, afterlife explorer, and podcast host and
Speaker 3: author ROBERTA. Grimes. She's written many books, but there's one
Speaker 3: that really impacted me, and that's her book Liberating Jesus.
Speaker 3: Over five years ago I hosted a live event and
Speaker 3: psychic medium Mark Anthony, also known as the Psychic Lawyer,
Speaker 3: was one of the speakers. He gave a most compelling
Speaker 3: present about the history of Christianity, the Bible, talking about
Speaker 3: reincarnation in the Bible and so much more, and I
Speaker 3: thought I really would love people to hear the presentation. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: the sound quality of the recording was awful. However, thanks
Speaker 3: to a little new technology, I've been able to clean
Speaker 3: up that audio file. This episode is not just about religion, however,
Speaker 3: Mark talks near death experiences, quantum physics, a little bit
Speaker 3: of Star Wars, and more. It's a fascinating presentation. Mark
Speaker 3: Anthony is an Oxford educated attorney. His books are never
Speaker 3: letting go evidence of eternity and the afterlife. Frequency the
Speaker 3: scientific proof of spiritual contact and how that awareness will
Speaker 3: change your life. His website Evidence of Eternity dot com.
Speaker 3: Here's Mark.
Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic.
Speaker 4: In our belief system in Christianity, there's either heaven or
Speaker 4: hell when you die. Let's look at the roots of
Speaker 4: our own culture in ancient Hasidic Judaism, in the Kabbala,
Speaker 4: the mystical aspects of Judaism, in the Book of Job
Speaker 4: Naked I left my mother's womb, and naked I shall
Speaker 4: return there. And there is a deep belief in Hasidic
Speaker 4: Judaism and in the Kabbala that we actually go through
Speaker 4: several lifetimes, so that there is not just life than death,
Speaker 4: then the afterlife or nothingness. But ancient Judaism does embrace reincarnation. Now,
Speaker 4: let's go back to ancient Jerusalem. Outside of the Great City,
Speaker 4: there is the Henam Valley, and in the Hannam Valley
Speaker 4: is an area called Gethenna. This is where our concept
Speaker 4: of reincarnation begins to take a deviation, because Gehenna was
Speaker 4: where people who were dishonored, who were criminals, and who
Speaker 4: could not afford a proper burial, their body was taken
Speaker 4: and burned and they were burned in sulfur pits which.
Speaker 1: Were known as brimstone.
Speaker 4: And so if you were evil, if you were a sinner,
Speaker 4: if you were bad, you were subjected to fire and brimstone.
Speaker 4: So throughout the Gedaeic culture that became a thing to
Speaker 4: scare children with. If you're not good, you end up
Speaker 4: in fire and brimstone. So then right around sixty three BC,
Speaker 4: General Pompey the Great. Poppy's an interesting character. He was
Speaker 4: quite an effective general, and he basically conquered most of
Speaker 4: the eastern Mediterranean in the name of Rome, and Jedea
Speaker 4: became a client kingdom.
Speaker 1: I won't get into the intricacies.
Speaker 4: A client kingdom means that basically you were under Rome's
Speaker 4: thumb without being fully occupied. But the thing is the
Speaker 4: Roman Empire was really good at a number of things,
Speaker 4: one of which was conquest, the other of which was
Speaker 4: This is the Roman Empire its greatest extent, which would
Speaker 4: be around about one point seventeen a d.
Speaker 1: They came into.
Speaker 4: Contact with several other cultures, and as the empire spread
Speaker 4: from Italy, we know that the Greek and Roman religions
Speaker 4: were essentially the same thing. Like in Greek, the king
Speaker 4: of the gods was Zeus, but his name in Latin
Speaker 4: was Jupiter, and so on and so forth. So they
Speaker 4: basically incorporated their religion from the Greeks as they conquered
Speaker 4: into the Iranian border, which they called Persia, and their
Speaker 4: religion of the Zoristorianism and Mythris, the worship of the
Speaker 4: light and the sun god started becoming incorporated into the Empire. Certainly,
Speaker 4: the influence of the Egyptians and Judea became very very
Speaker 4: important in the Roman world, particularly with the rise of Christianity,
Speaker 4: because after Jesus's teachings, Christianity was widely accepted among the Greeks.
Speaker 4: Their culture spread throughout the eastern Mediterranean, and then as
Speaker 4: the Empire moved into the border with Germany, they came
Speaker 4: into other influences such as the god Loki, who's the
Speaker 4: lord of the underworld in Norse mythology. He was crafty, malicious,
Speaker 4: the god of fire and magic. He could assume different shapes,
Speaker 4: and he was responsible for the death of Balder. Balder
Speaker 4: was the son of Odin and his sacred mother Frea,
Speaker 4: and Balder, the god of Light, was struck down by
Speaker 4: the evil Loki, yet rose on the third day. One
Speaker 4: can only wonder what type of influence this out on
Speaker 4: other religions swirling around in the Empire in the first
Speaker 4: century AD. And isn't it interesting the way the names
Speaker 4: Loki and Lucifer have such a close linguistic significance. So
Speaker 4: over time, as the Empire started turning Christian, it began
Speaker 4: to be influenced by other relige religions, both within and
Speaker 4: on the borders of the empire. In fact, in early Christianity,
Speaker 4: one of the greatest thinkers origin of Alexandria. He was
Speaker 4: a bishop and a theologian. He rejected the notion of
Speaker 4: eternal damnation and said that even Satan eventually will ascend
Speaker 4: to the light, and that we all live a succession
Speaker 4: of lifetimes. There was no hell, there was reincarnation, So
Speaker 4: in the first couple centuries of Christianity, reincarnation was one
Speaker 4: of its basic tenants.
Speaker 1: By the fourth.
Speaker 4: Century, things are going badly for the Roman Empire. There
Speaker 4: was constant civil wars. Rival generals were battling, and this
Speaker 4: was the emergence of the general Constantine, who later became
Speaker 4: known as Constantine the Great. Constantine had his hony and
Speaker 4: he was facing off against another general Maxentius, and the
Speaker 4: night before a great battle October twenty seventh, in three
Speaker 4: twelve AD, before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, Constantine
Speaker 4: had of vision, not quite asleep, not quite awake, and
Speaker 4: he saw the image of a cross in the sky
Speaker 4: glowing white, and he heard a voice that said, in
Speaker 4: this sign you shall conquer. Now, Constantine was not a Christian.
Speaker 4: He was still kind of clinging to the old beliefs
Speaker 4: of the gods on Mount Olympus, which pretty much by
Speaker 4: this time most of the people in the empire didn't
Speaker 4: really follow. But Constantine, being a very astute man, realized, okay,
Speaker 4: this is definitely a sign. So he had all the
Speaker 4: soldiers paint across on their shields. They went into battle
Speaker 4: obliterated Mixentius, and Constantine became absolute ruler of the Roman world.
Speaker 4: And he decided that we need one emperor, one religion,
Speaker 4: one system of law. So he ordered all the bishops
Speaker 4: to Nicea, which is in modern day Turkey. He stopped
Speaker 4: the persecution of Christians, and he said that I want
Speaker 4: an authoritative text for this new relife, and this is
Speaker 4: where the Bible came from. So the bishops throughout the
Speaker 4: Christian world they decided to take the Torah from Judaism
Speaker 4: to be the Old Testament. They started taking gospels. There's
Speaker 4: even an alternate version of Genesis and the Creation, which
Speaker 4: somehow ended up in the Qur'an. So there's all these
Speaker 4: different versions and letters of Paul. And so now the
Speaker 4: first version of the Bible was released at the Council
Speaker 4: of Nicea in three twenty five AD. Now it gets
Speaker 4: even better because the imperial decree was that Jesus is
Speaker 4: God and will return. But until he does, I Constantine,
Speaker 4: Emperor of the Romans and God's vice regent on earth.
Speaker 1: So what did he do?
Speaker 4: The ultimate act of ego is creating God in your
Speaker 4: own image, so that he now gets to hate and
Speaker 4: persecute the same people you do. Well, that's exactly what
Speaker 4: he did. And this is where all this oppression starts
Speaker 4: with Christianity. Before that, it was the teachings of Christ.
Speaker 4: So Constantine changed everything. And by saying that he was
Speaker 4: God's vice region on earth, if you disobeyed the Emperor,
Speaker 4: you were cast into an eternal health, fire and damnation
Speaker 4: in pits of brimstone. Well, his mother Helena, he sent
Speaker 4: her to the Holy Land to Gidea. Helena is credited
Speaker 4: with finding the one true Cross, the cross that Jesus
Speaker 4: was crucified on. Well, let's picture what probably happened. This
Speaker 4: is the Emperor's mother, okay, the most powerful man on earth,
Speaker 4: his word was law. He's just created himself in the
Speaker 4: image of Jesus. Yet think his mother sailed alone to
Speaker 4: the Holy Land. Of course not, She'd probably have about
Speaker 4: three Roman cohorts protecting her. So figure about fifteen hundred
Speaker 4: Roman soldiers her personal entourage in a ten t and
Speaker 4: this will be at least another one hundred people. So
Speaker 4: then they land in the port of Caesarea and what
Speaker 4: is now Israel, and of course the two Roman legions
Speaker 4: that were stationed there would be greeting the Emperor's mother,
Speaker 4: along with all the bishops, the Roman government, and all
Speaker 4: the citizens. So they bring her to Goal Gotha. So
Speaker 4: figure there's about twenty thousand people surrounding Golgatha and they go, oh,
Speaker 4: your majesty, our Siedri was crucified there. And so she
Speaker 4: goes to gal Gotha. Oh, look, Joe, majesty is the
Speaker 4: one true Cross. In fact that he even says it right here,
Speaker 4: all right, So now Helena finds the one true Cross.
Speaker 4: So when she returns to her son, she is now
Speaker 4: Saint Helena and he is Saint Constantine. So what has
Speaker 4: Constantine done. He has created himself in the image of
Speaker 4: Jesus and his mother in the image of the Virgin Mary,
Speaker 4: thus cementing and solidifying his divine right of.
Speaker 1: Being the ruler.
Speaker 4: Now let's talk about Saint Constantine for a minute. The
Speaker 4: first Christian emp Well, the problem with Saint constantin he
Speaker 4: was a genocidal maniac. He pretty much had everybody and
Speaker 4: his family executed for treason. Was paranoid beyond belief. He
Speaker 4: had no problem having thousands of people put to death.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, the.
Speaker 4: Coliseum gladiators that was still in full swing. So basically,
Speaker 4: if you defy the emperor before he got casted into
Speaker 4: fire and brimstone, you're thrown to the lions for entertainment.
Speaker 4: So this guy was anything but saintly. By the end
Speaker 4: of his life, they said he wore this weird wig
Speaker 4: of all these different colors, and he insisted on people
Speaker 4: grubbling in front of them.
Speaker 1: Constantine went insane with power.
Speaker 4: But he was also a brilliant politician because he solidified
Speaker 4: his position as the divine ruler of the Roman world,
Speaker 4: and he also moved the capital of the empire from
Speaker 4: Rome to Constantinople, the City of Constantine.
Speaker 3: We need to take our first break, but when we
Speaker 3: come back, you'll hear more about Constantine, the formation of
Speaker 3: the Bible, Reincarnate, some reincarnation stories, and a whole lot more.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Let's continue
Speaker 3: with Mark Anthony's description of Roman Emperor Constantine, his impact
Speaker 3: on the Bible, a look at reincarnation, near death experiences,
Speaker 3: and more.
Speaker 4: Constantine went insane with power, but he was also a
Speaker 4: brilliant politician because he solidified his position as the divine
Speaker 4: ruler of the Roman world, and he also moved the
Speaker 4: capital of the empire from Rome to Constantinople, the city
Speaker 4: of Constantine. When he moved the capital of the empire,
Speaker 4: Christianity was initially focused on Constantinople. The Patriarch of Constantinople
Speaker 4: was the leader of the Christian religion and the pope
Speaker 4: was the Bishop of Rome. But this is where the
Speaker 4: squabbling in Christianity started, because now you have Roman Christianity
Speaker 4: versus Greek Christianity, and the tension started there. However, because
Speaker 4: of the divine right of kings that Constantine created in
Speaker 4: the Christian sense of the empire collapsed with Germanic invasions.
Speaker 4: Every king, every duke and ruler in the western section
Speaker 4: of the Empire took on the role of the divine
Speaker 4: right of kings, and this is where all of this started.
Speaker 4: Even to this day, the monarch of England is known
Speaker 4: as the defender of the Faith. And of course in
Speaker 4: the Eastern Mediterranean, and when Islam started to rise up
Speaker 4: the caliphate. A caliph is an ordained ruler by Allah
Speaker 4: God to rule. I remember when I saw Isis rising
Speaker 4: a few years ago, I go, Dear God, because the
Speaker 4: last caliphate was the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which is destroyed
Speaker 4: in World War One. And when I started to see
Speaker 4: a new caliphate rising, this is really serious stuff because
Speaker 4: the caliphate is a very dangerous thing because these people
Speaker 4: are ordained by God to conquer. So anyway, all this
Speaker 4: was going on, and so the Western Empire collapses but
Speaker 4: the eastern half now takes on a new name as
Speaker 4: the Byzantine Empire, because Constantinople used to be the city
Speaker 4: of Byzantium. Long story short, Two hundred years after Constantine,
Speaker 4: the Emperor Justinian rises. Justinian's another fascinating guy. Our system
Speaker 4: of justice corpus juris sivilis, was ordered into existence by Justinian,
Speaker 4: So our system, our legal system, comes from him.
Speaker 1: But he did another thing.
Speaker 4: He ordered the Fifth Ecumenical Council, and at the fifth
Speaker 4: Ecumenical Council, reincarnation was banned as heresy because the Emperor,
Speaker 4: God's emperor on earth. Justinian did not want anyone having
Speaker 4: an escape clause. If you don't listen to the Emperor,
Speaker 4: if you do not follow the laws of the Empire,
Speaker 4: you will be eternally condemned.
Speaker 1: They didn't want anything.
Speaker 4: Oh well, I'll just come back as you know something else.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, no, okay, And so now what to
Speaker 4: a fifth version of the Bible in Constantinople, and of
Speaker 4: course in Rome. The Bishop of Rome, who's now assumed
Speaker 4: the title of Hope wasn't all very happy about that.
Speaker 4: So now we start having different versions of the Bible
Speaker 4: popping up now, people think that reincarnation was eliminated from
Speaker 4: the Bible. However, there's a couple passages where it appears
Speaker 4: to have survived, and the Transfiguration being one of them.
Speaker 4: Where Jesus brings a couple of his disciples up to
Speaker 4: the top of a mountain and he begins to glow
Speaker 4: white and white images appear on earth side of him,
Speaker 4: Elijah and Moses. And if you read and observe authentic
Speaker 4: physical mediumship, this is an account of it. So apparently Jesus,
Speaker 4: among many other things, was capable of projecting ecoplasm and
Speaker 4: formed Moses and Elijah on either side of him. And
Speaker 4: then when they come off the mountain, Jesus asks his disciples,
Speaker 4: who do you say that I am? They say, well,
Speaker 4: some say that you are the prophet Elijah returned. Others
Speaker 4: say that you are John the Baptist. And according to
Speaker 4: the Gospel, he replied, Elijah did come to restore all things,
Speaker 4: but he came in the form of John the Baptist.
Speaker 4: Elijah lived eight hundred years before Jesus and his cousin
Speaker 4: John the Baptist. This by accounts of not just Christian
Speaker 4: but also Buddhists and Hindu scholars. They believe this is
Speaker 4: actually a reference to reincarnation, because what Jesus is saying is, yeah,
Speaker 4: Elijah came back as my cousin John over eight hundred
Speaker 4: years now. Even though mainstream Islam rejects reincarnation, the more
Speaker 4: progressive schools of thought in Islam welcome it. One of
Speaker 4: their greatest philosophers was Roomy, and he wrote that I
Speaker 4: died as a mineral and became a plant. I died
Speaker 4: as a plant and rose to animal. I died as
Speaker 4: an animal, and I was man. Why should I sear
Speaker 4: when was eyeless by dying? So what Rumy was saying
Speaker 4: is that we go through a succession of lifetimes from
Speaker 4: the transmigration of souls. You go from being an insect
Speaker 4: to an animal, to a human, and on and on.
Speaker 4: Benjamin Franklin actually believed in reincarnation. He wrote his own
Speaker 4: epitaph on his tombstone, The printer like the cover of
Speaker 4: an old book, its contents torn out and stripped of
Speaker 4: its lettering and gilding, lies here food for worms. But
Speaker 4: the work shall not be wholly lost, for it will,
Speaker 4: as he believed, appear once more in a new and
Speaker 4: more perfect edition. Corrected and amended by the author Thomas Edison,
Speaker 4: George Patton, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, There's a lot I
Speaker 4: could talk about him. He was working on technology to
Speaker 4: communicate with the other side. And Henry Ford came to
Speaker 4: the conclusion that reincarnation existed when he was twenty six.
Speaker 4: He said, genius's experience. It's not a gift, it's the
Speaker 4: experience of many long lives. The West opened up to
Speaker 4: reincarnation when George Harrison of the Beatles met Rabbi Shankar.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden started writing songs about it, talking
Speaker 4: about it openly, and it was starting to go from
Speaker 4: kind of fringe to pop culture. And then Shirley McClain,
Speaker 4: a major Academy Award winning movie star, respected author, goes
Speaker 4: on the world stage and announces that she believes hen reincarnation.
Speaker 4: Oprah Winfrey, Loretta Lynn Prince, all types of people these
Speaker 4: days are beginning to believe in reincarnation. Albert Einstein said
Speaker 4: that science without religion is lame, and religion without science
Speaker 4: is blind. So this brings us to the work of
Speaker 4: doctor Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia. Unfortunately, he
Speaker 4: passed in two thousand and seven because he did fascinating
Speaker 4: studies in reincarnation children who had not only past life memories,
Speaker 4: but of a recent past life where they could identify
Speaker 4: the family that they said they were from.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: And what he did is he approached reincarnation strictly from
Speaker 4: a scientific viewpoint, and he saw his job as to
Speaker 4: gather all the nominalist data. He kept religion out of it.
Speaker 4: He wanted it strictly to be science. And what he
Speaker 4: found what children is as soon as the child could communicate,
Speaker 4: they start to describe a previous lifetime. The child remembers
Speaker 4: details of his or her death based on information provided
Speaker 4: by the child to the bio life family. The child's
Speaker 4: family from the prior incarnation is eventually identified. Personality traits,
Speaker 4: personal preferences, habits persist from one incarnation to the next.
Speaker 4: The gender usually stays the same. Relationships are renewed through reincarnation. Also,
Speaker 4: phobias traumatic deaths in particular leave an emotional imprint, for example,
Speaker 4: fear of drowning the wall, concerned about being careful in
Speaker 4: the water. But some people have these phobias that they
Speaker 4: can't explain, which brings us to the fascinating case of
Speaker 4: James Leininger. As a toddler, he begin to have nightmares
Speaker 4: about being trapped in a plane shot down by the Japanese.
Speaker 1: All right, three year old.
Speaker 4: Kids start saying, my plane was a Corsair. My ship
Speaker 4: was then the Tooma and Chi Chi GiMA Chi chi
Speaker 4: gem and his parents are like, what okay? And his
Speaker 4: parents were not particularly religious people. They certainly didn't believe
Speaker 4: in reincarnation, and they're like, what's all this chi chigemon?
Speaker 1: The tona thing? So his father started doing some research.
Speaker 4: But then as a son got older, he started drawing
Speaker 4: pictures of his playing getting shot down, referred to himself
Speaker 4: as James three, James three, and where's my friend Jack Larson?
Speaker 1: Jack Larson.
Speaker 4: Then he had three Gi Joe dolls that he named Leon,
Speaker 4: Walter and Billy. Got his father so curious because this
Speaker 4: appeared not to be a delusion. This child had facts,
Speaker 4: had figures, and his father found out that there was
Speaker 4: indeed a USS Natoma Bay and it was what's known
Speaker 4: as an escort carrier. Toward the end of the war,
Speaker 4: it flew corsairs. Further investigation yielded that there was a
Speaker 4: Lieutenant James Houston Jr. Twenty one year old pilot a
Speaker 4: boy in Natoma Bay. It was shot down at Chichi
Speaker 4: Jima during the Battle of Iwo Jima, and Leon Walter
Speaker 4: and Billy were three of the pilots that flew with
Speaker 4: James Houston. But why James. His father's name was Bruce,
Speaker 4: Bruce Leninger. And then they found out that James Houston's
Speaker 4: father and grandfather were both named James, so that if
Speaker 4: he were James Houston, he would be referring to himself
Speaker 4: as James the Third. But what about Jack Larson, the
Speaker 4: friend he talked about the most. Jack was alive. His
Speaker 4: parents took James to a reunion of the USS Natoma Bay,
Speaker 4: so Jack Larson was not only alive. When Lininger attended
Speaker 4: the Natoma Bay reunion, he started talking about intricate details
Speaker 4: about his crewmates, even talk about girls they used to date,
Speaker 4: and Larson said, this kid's got to be Jim Houston.
Speaker 4: Then he meets Anne Houston Baron, who would have been
Speaker 4: the sister of James Houston, and she said, this child
Speaker 4: couldn't know the things he does.
Speaker 1: He just couldn't.
Speaker 4: So I believe he is somehow part of my brother.
Speaker 4: Now my job is to present evidence for you to decide.
Speaker 4: But this brings us next to the curious case of
Speaker 4: Louise Eddie. Louise Eddie was born in nineteen oh four
Speaker 4: to a proper Edwardian family in England, and when she
Speaker 4: was about four years old, she fell. She had a
Speaker 4: terrible injury and when she woke up she started having
Speaker 4: these memories of a past life in ancient Egypt. By
Speaker 4: the time she was eighteen, she managed to garner the
Speaker 4: funds and went to Egypt. She went to work and
Speaker 4: volunteered with archaeologists and they were astounded because within a
Speaker 4: year she could not only read Egyptian hieroglyphics, she could
Speaker 4: actually speak the language, and the archaeologists saying it takes
Speaker 4: PhDs decades to get to the point where she learned
Speaker 4: it right away. The archaeologist humored her, and so she
Speaker 4: started to tell them, well, if you excavate over here,
Speaker 4: there used to be an irrigation system, and over there
Speaker 4: there used to be an orchard, like yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 4: then they started finding remains of an orchard exactly where
Speaker 4: she said it was, remains of an irrigation system exactly
Speaker 4: where she said it was, among reincarnation experts. People conclude
Speaker 4: that she's an authentic case. And what's fascinating, she's not
Speaker 4: talking about a lifetime a few decades back. She's talking
Speaker 4: about one thirty three centuries ago.
Speaker 3: Time for the break and we'll be right back. You're
Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and
Speaker 3: Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to
Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're listening
Speaker 3: to Mark Anthony, author of Evidence of Eternity. Now we're
Speaker 3: going to turn to the realm of quantum physics and
Speaker 3: the afterlife.
Speaker 4: Albert Einstein matters energy. Energy is light. We are all
Speaker 4: light beings. Think about it. Life depends on light. If
Speaker 4: it weren't for the light of the sun, this planet
Speaker 4: would be nothing more than a chunk of ice floating
Speaker 4: through space. The food that we eat, the plants, the
Speaker 4: animals they eat, the plants, are all dependent upon photosynthesis.
Speaker 4: Every great spiritual teacher has described God in terms of
Speaker 4: the light. Buddhist said, this is the way to the light.
Speaker 4: Jesus said, I am the way to the light. Christian
Speaker 4: had described the light Mohammed the light the Native Americans
Speaker 4: the light, the philosopher Rumy said, the lamps may be different,
Speaker 4: but the light is the same. So seeing reoccurring descriptions
Speaker 4: of God being described in light, and for those of
Speaker 4: us who do encounter the other sided, for all of
Speaker 4: you who've had these experiences, we believe that perceiving the
Speaker 4: light is a form of perception of the spiritual energy
Speaker 4: of the infinite, which what you and I.
Speaker 1: Could call God.
Speaker 4: Now, through the study of quantum physics, what we have
Speaker 4: found is that matter and energy, which includes light, are
Speaker 4: composed of tiny units of electromagnetic energy known as quanta.
Speaker 4: Long story short, we've all learned in school that everything's
Speaker 4: made up of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms. Atoms
Speaker 4: are made of electrons, protons, and neutrons, and they are
Speaker 4: made of yet a smaller particle on a subatomic level,
Speaker 4: known as quanta, which is electromagnetic energy. Everything is this
Speaker 4: carpet you, the air we're breathing, the light, we're seeing,
Speaker 4: the space between the Earth and the Sun. The nuclear
Speaker 4: reactions within the Sun and beyond are all at the
Speaker 4: most basic unit electromagnetic energy, known as quanta. Now, for decades,
Speaker 4: scientists have wondered if you drop something on your foot,
Speaker 4: why and how do you immediately feel it. Clearly it's
Speaker 4: not chemical that would take too long to slash on
Speaker 4: through your body, so it has to be electrical, and
Speaker 4: it appears to move at the speed of light. And
Speaker 4: in recent decades the Russians, particularly Serja Maybrow at the
Speaker 4: Lebedev Institute of Physics in Moscow, have discovered biophotons that
Speaker 4: our cells actually emit flashes of light to communicate with
Speaker 4: each other. This is not bioluminescence. This is not what
Speaker 4: a firefly does or a lantern fish does. This is
Speaker 4: invisible to the naked eye, and our cells appear to
Speaker 4: emit flashes of ultra weak light and that's whyther known
Speaker 4: as biophotons. So what this indicates is that our body
Speaker 4: is actually a matrix of light. Fritz Albert Poff from
Speaker 4: the International Institute of Biophysics in Germany, so that biophoton
Speaker 4: emission is a general phenomenon of all living systems. Biophotons
Speaker 4: originate from a coherent photon field within the living organism,
Speaker 4: its function being intra and intercellular regulation and communication. In
Speaker 4: other words, our body communicates through light and We know
Speaker 4: that light can transmit information and data because the space
Speaker 4: center does that. Space programs do this. One of the
Speaker 4: concepts I developed in my book Evidence or Attorney is enlightenment.
Speaker 4: Enlightenment can be either empirical knowledge that all of a
Speaker 4: sudden you figure out, or it is your perception of
Speaker 4: the divine in the spiritual sense. But what we must
Speaker 4: also realize is enlightenment is embracing and accepting the light
Speaker 4: which is in with all of us. So think about
Speaker 4: it like this, everything's quanta, including light. Our body creates
Speaker 4: the same light that we perceive when perceiving God. Ergo,
Speaker 4: the Kingdom of God is within, and we know from
Speaker 4: the laws of physics. Energy is neither created nor destroyed,
Speaker 4: only transferred from one form to another. The quantum field
Speaker 4: in the brain is energy, and faith teaches us the soul,
Speaker 4: also known as consciousness, is an immortal living spirit, and
Speaker 4: that the soul pre exists the body comes into the body,
Speaker 4: lives on after the body dies. Energy neither created nor destroyed,
Speaker 4: only transferred from one form to another. The death of
Speaker 4: consciousness only exists as a thought because people identify themselves
Speaker 4: with a body, and so that if a body receives
Speaker 4: consciousness the same way a cable box receives satellite signals. Then,
Speaker 4: of course consciousness doesn't end at death. But what does
Speaker 4: happen is that the energy of your consciousness gets recycled
Speaker 4: back into a different body at some point, and in
Speaker 4: the meantime exists outside of the physical body, on some
Speaker 4: other level of reality and possibly in another universe. This
Speaker 4: is the scientific explanation for reincarnation. So when people say that, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know your consciousness is generated by the brain, well, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: almost forty thousand Americans a year developed Alzheimer's, and the
Speaker 4: death often involves a long physical and mental decline where
Speaker 4: the person is non responsive. I've seen this with people
Speaker 4: very close to me. While my father didn't technically have Alzheimer's,
Speaker 4: he had cancer which got into his brain, and it
Speaker 4: was a Navy seal, a NASA engineer, and watching him
Speaker 4: not even be able to recognize where he was was
Speaker 4: one of the most heart wrenching things that I've ever
Speaker 4: been through, probably ever will. But we know that a
Speaker 4: brain affected by cancer or in this case, with Alzheimer's,
Speaker 4: is physically different. A brain affected by Alzheimer's is shrunken,
Speaker 4: it's malnourished, it's deformed. And what happens is that brain
Speaker 4: scientists agree, even the skeptics, they'll agree that a severely
Speaker 4: damaged brain makes normal cognition impossible. But then we've been
Speaker 4: documenting worldwide, five to ten percent of the cases involving
Speaker 4: terminally ill people suffering from Alzheimer's and severe dementia where
Speaker 4: death is very near, a phenomenon which defies medical science
Speaker 4: has been identified. The patient suddenly regains lucidity right before death.
Speaker 4: They wake up, they recognize family members, they start communicating
Speaker 4: with them.
Speaker 1: Guess what.
Speaker 4: Hippocrates in ancient Greece actually documented cases of this, So
Speaker 4: did Plutarch in ancient Rome, the Hindus, the Muslims. Throughout
Speaker 4: thousands of years, cases of this have been documented, and
Speaker 4: this is now known as terminal lucidity. Doctor Michael Nahm
Speaker 4: in Germany said, terminal lucidy is an unexpected return of
Speaker 4: mental clarity which occurs right before a patient's death. And
Speaker 4: the thing is, it's not just in Alzheimer's, it's in
Speaker 4: several different types of illnesses brain toor strokes, meningitis, schizophrenia.
Speaker 4: In other words, there is no one cause. There is
Speaker 4: no explanation for it. There's no observable change in the brain.
Speaker 4: And why does somebody suddenly recover complete sanity from someone
Speaker 4: has been non responsive for days, weeks, months, even years,
Speaker 4: And what accounts for terminal lucidity. All the doctors agree
Speaker 4: that right before you die or brain doesn't suddenly grow
Speaker 4: a billion new neurons. Well, that's because consciousness has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with your brain. Consciousness derives from quantum vibrations
Speaker 4: within the brain's neurons, and in the spiritual sense, consciousness
Speaker 4: has been here all along. These are findings by Sir
Speaker 4: Roger Penrose of Oxford, Stuart Hammerhoff, University of Arizona, the
Speaker 4: MIT and Institute Material Sciences of Japan, and the University
Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania, and one of my favorite professors, Professor Hans
Speaker 4: Peter dah It's a Max Planck Institute for Physics in Germany.
Speaker 4: Zubrain is like a come true to hard drives. When
Speaker 4: Venza had drive dies, we do not lose this information,
Speaker 4: this consciousness. Zubadhi dies, but the spiritual quantum field continues.
Speaker 4: In this way, we're immortal. But that's what they're saying,
Speaker 4: that the brain is actually a formatting and hosting device.
Speaker 4: It does not create who and what you are, and
Speaker 4: that ties into what faith has been teaching us and
Speaker 4: what the biocentrists have been teaching us throughout the center.
Speaker 4: Even Leonardo da Vinci concluded that consciousness pre existed the
Speaker 4: brain and then left the brain upon physical death. So
Speaker 4: the Buddha and science agree, you are not your body,
Speaker 4: So quantum conscience business. When the body dies, the energy
Speaker 4: of a quantum spiritual field is not destroyed, it is transferred.
Speaker 1: Where does it go?
Speaker 4: Well, that's where all the mediums here and Sonia come in,
Speaker 4: right and Sandra the schwartz Child. Quantum lattice theory is
Speaker 4: fascinating because scientists have found that an electron will disappear
Speaker 4: and then reappear the same electron in a different location
Speaker 4: without traversing going through the matter in between.
Speaker 1: How does it do this? Why does it do this?
Speaker 1: Where does it go? Well?
Speaker 4: The theory is it's a quantum leap, which is not
Speaker 4: just a show with Scott Bacula in it. No, it
Speaker 4: is a transfer of our energy from one dimension to
Speaker 4: another through what they believe to be a very small
Speaker 4: version of a wormhole, and that dimension we refer to
Speaker 4: as the other side. You can call it heaven, happy Valley, Nirvana,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. It is a parallel
Speaker 4: dimension which runs and exists with our dimension in near
Speaker 4: death experiences. This is where we're beginning to see that
Speaker 4: there is a scientific basis for the two different dimensions,
Speaker 4: because when a person physically dies in that person's spirit
Speaker 4: separates from their body, their consciousness remains intact and they
Speaker 4: go into the light. Doctor Raymond Moody, I know everybody
Speaker 4: here is familiar with him. Great guy was such an
Speaker 4: honor when he endorsed my book Evidence of Maturity. Back
Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies. He started using the scientific method
Speaker 4: of objective analysis to compile data on accounts that have
Speaker 4: been going on since the dawn of history about people
Speaker 4: who have died in come back to life and told
Speaker 4: of their experiences, and he coined the phrase near death experience.
Speaker 4: My good friend, doctor Jeffrey Long, is the founder of
Speaker 4: end Earth, the Near Death Experience Research Foundation, and he's noncologist, okay,
Speaker 4: And he said, I had no spiritual background or in this,
Speaker 4: and I'm seeing one patient after another start talking about this.
Speaker 4: So he created ENDERF, which is the world's largest database
Speaker 4: of near death experiences. So many respected people in both
Speaker 4: ancient and modern times have reported NDEs near death experiences.
Speaker 4: Plato wrote in the last passage in his book or
Speaker 4: series of books, the Republic talks about the soldier Err
Speaker 4: and Err was killed in a battle, and I suppose
Speaker 4: he was dead for nine days. They put him on
Speaker 4: a funeral pyre, and all of a sudden he wakes
Speaker 4: up and he starts to tell about this walld he
Speaker 4: went to that was filled with light and had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with the Greek mythological belief system of the time.
Speaker 4: And so Plato wrote that Er left the cave of
Speaker 4: shadows to see the light of truth.
Speaker 3: I have a sneaky suspicion you can agree this is
Speaker 3: some fascinating stuff. When we come back from the break,
Speaker 3: we'll hear some near death experience stories and how Star
Speaker 3: Wars is connected. We'll be right back with more, Mark Anthony.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 3: and Coastcoast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades
Speaker 3: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and you're listening to
Speaker 3: the psychic lawyer Mark Anthony. You can find out more
Speaker 3: about him at Evidenceofeternity dot Com and his books Evidence
Speaker 3: of Eternity, The Afterlife Frequency and Never Letting Go Healing
Speaker 3: Grief with Help from the Other Side. Let's continue with
Speaker 3: the speech he made at my we Don't Die event
Speaker 3: in Orlando over five years ago. And I am extremely
Speaker 3: grateful for modern technology to make it possible for you
Speaker 3: to hear today the Bible.
Speaker 4: Not to be outdone the apostle Paul. He was a
Speaker 4: Roman citizen, which meant that he had special protections and guarantees.
Speaker 4: Is an original name was Saul, and his job was
Speaker 4: to persecute Christians. And supposedly when he was going from
Speaker 4: Judea to Damascus, he was struck by a bright white
Speaker 4: light and lay dead for three days and then came back.
Speaker 4: And many theologians believe that Paul may have been writing
Speaker 4: about his own near death experience. Mozart, Queen Victoria, Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 4: Winston Churchill, Sartha Conan Doyle. Elizabeth Taylor did a wonderful
Speaker 4: interview where she talked about her nde. She died on
Speaker 4: an operating table and went into the light and she
Speaker 4: saw Michael Todd and in more recent years, Sharon Stone,
Speaker 4: Leonardo DiCaprio, Tracy Morgan, Johnny Depp, Charlie Steering, George Clooney.
Speaker 4: I have all reported near death experiences as I had one,
Speaker 4: my father had two near death experiences, and my mother
Speaker 4: also had a near death experience. The funny thing is
Speaker 4: when my parents had them, the term NDE didn't exist.
Speaker 4: But growing up in a family of people who can
Speaker 4: see spirits, they knew that they had journey to the
Speaker 4: other side. Near death experience similarities. You see people who
Speaker 4: are dead, you're convinced of their reality. Race, gender, religion
Speaker 4: are not a factor. Drugs and anesthesia are not a factor.
Speaker 4: It's not a hallucination. Their psychic ability is enhanced and
Speaker 4: you lose your fear of death. Doctor Kenneth Ring, friend
Speaker 4: and colleague near death experience researcher, wrote about a woman
Speaker 4: who died on an operating table. All since she felt
Speaker 4: her consciousness separated from her body, and she was hovering
Speaker 4: above the table, and she saw everybody in the operating room,
Speaker 4: and she said she went by a light fixture and
Speaker 4: noticed the top of it was really dirty, and the
Speaker 4: next thing she knew, she was hovering above the hospital
Speaker 4: and noticed in one of the storm drains the rain gutters.
Speaker 4: There was this blue tennis shee stuck there, so they
Speaker 4: revived her. When she came out of it, she starts
Speaker 4: talking about The surgeon goes, get two people up on
Speaker 4: the roof right now, and they went up in exactly
Speaker 4: where she said it was was a blue tennis shoe.
Speaker 4: And I love it when the skeptics say, well, this
Speaker 4: is a function of the dying brain, is it now,
Speaker 4: doctor John Hagen of the University of Missouri, So we
Speaker 4: can bring patients back from death who have traveled further
Speaker 4: on the path than at any other time in history.
Speaker 4: The recollections often refute physicians scientific explanations of how an
Speaker 4: oxygen starved brain can produce such vivid and often corroborated
Speaker 4: for ridical recollections. So what are the after effects of
Speaker 4: a near death experience? How does it affect the people
Speaker 4: that have them? Well, it's a life changing event, and
Speaker 4: the ears lose their fear of death or commer less judgmental,
Speaker 4: less materialistic, become more spiritual, compassionate, and loving. They have
Speaker 4: enhanced psychic ability, a sense of timelessness. At age sixteen,
Speaker 4: George Lucas died in a car accident. He flatlined for
Speaker 4: twenty minutes and he was revived and told of going
Speaker 4: into the light and this amazing experience. By the time
Speaker 4: he was twenty two, had a draft of Star Wars
Speaker 4: and he talks about the Force, the energy which binds
Speaker 4: and connects all of us. Now, the Force is what
Speaker 4: gives a Jedi Knight his power. It is an energy
Speaker 4: field created by all living things. It surrounds us and
Speaker 4: penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together. Sounds a lot
Speaker 4: like Kwanta, doesn't it. Now, think about what a Jedi
Speaker 4: Knight symbolizes versus like Darth Vader and the dark side
Speaker 4: of the Force. The Jedi Knight is the one positively
Speaker 4: influenced and is spiritual as a reuss ultimate a near
Speaker 4: death experience, less judgmental, less materialistic, compassionate feeling of interconnectedness,
Speaker 4: that we're all one, we're all energetically interconnected. And Darth
Speaker 4: Vader is the symbol of the ego. It's pure narcissism, power, control, aggression.
Speaker 4: But think about the effects of a near death experience.
Speaker 4: I mean, Star Wars is one of the biggest movie
Speaker 4: franchises in history and it's still ongoing, and how it's
Speaker 4: affected us. People talk about the force and all that,
Speaker 4: and this is where it came from, was from George
Speaker 4: Lucas's near death experience. Edgar Mitchell astronaut, Navy pilot, astronomical
Speaker 4: engineer and ufoologists in my life have been honored to
Speaker 4: meet Neil Armstrong, Buzz Algren, John Glenn and Mike Foreman,
Speaker 4: who is one of the pilots of the Space Shuttle,
Speaker 4: and it's really interesting when they're not on camera and
Speaker 4: what they talk about. But edgar Mitchell said that when
Speaker 4: subatomic matter is in a process together, subsequently the subatomic
Speaker 4: particles go apart from each each other and across the universe.
Speaker 4: When they do this, they will remain entangled. This means
Speaker 4: if he do something to one, the other responds instantaneously.
Speaker 4: This is what's known as quantum entanglement. For every action,
Speaker 4: there's an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever a man sows,
Speaker 4: he shall read.
Speaker 1: Okay. All of the great.
Speaker 4: Religions talk about this, and now quantum physicists have proven
Speaker 4: that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Speaker 4: Albert Einstein there is no matter. There is just energy
Speaker 4: which vibrates at different frequencies. So we are living in
Speaker 4: the material world, and let's go with what Einstein said.
Speaker 4: There's no matter. We're just energy and we're vibrating at
Speaker 4: a lower and slower frequency. That's why I call it
Speaker 4: the material world dimension. When we die, we go to
Speaker 4: the other side and once we are at a higher
Speaker 4: vibration that our energy, our frequency amplitude is increased. And
Speaker 4: so interdimensional communication, which is when you have a dream
Speaker 4: or contact experience or mediums were able to communicate with
Speaker 4: the other side, or near death experiences, this is what's happening.
Speaker 4: It is where the two energetic systems, the two parallel
Speaker 4: dimensions universes, overlap and intersect, and that's how spirit communication
Speaker 4: and mediumship is possible. That's the basis for near death experiences.
Speaker 4: This isn't philosophy, This is physics. But does it sound
Speaker 4: like science fiction? Think about what happens. We're going to
Speaker 4: make a cell phone call. So let's say you want
Speaker 4: to talk to your aunt Martha and England. Your brain
Speaker 4: sends an electromagnetic impulse your lungs, So the electrical energy
Speaker 4: in your brain becomes muscular energy, which causes your lungs
Speaker 4: to contract, forcing air out. BEI another vibration goes to
Speaker 4: your vocal cords, and so that mechanical energy becomes muscular energy,
Speaker 4: which becomes soundwave energy, which it's the plate in your
Speaker 4: phone and begins to vibrate. So the soundwave energy then
Speaker 4: becomes mechanical energy. It's because the electrical energy, and then
Speaker 4: it becomes radio wave energy when your phone transmits the
Speaker 4: radio signal to a towel, taking the radiowave energy, converting
Speaker 4: to electrical energy, running through miles of wires up to
Speaker 4: a collection point with then converse electrical energy into radio
Speaker 4: off energy, which then hits a satellite in orbit, taking
Speaker 4: the radio ways turning into a system of microwave energy
Speaker 4: and transmit through a number of satellites, so finds the
Speaker 4: right one to givert the microwaves back to radio waves,
Speaker 4: goes the collection point in England, turning the radio waves
Speaker 4: into electrical energy, which goes through several miles of wires
Speaker 4: to another point during the electrical energy back into radio
Speaker 4: wave energy which hits the antenna and Aunt Martha's cell
Speaker 4: phone taking the electrical energy turning into mechanical energy as
Speaker 4: the plate in her cell phone begins a vibrary take
Speaker 4: the mechanical enginer and sound wave energy to set your
Speaker 4: ear brunt, and then her ear jump begins a vibrate,
Speaker 4: causing the eighth cranial nerve to be struck by these
Speaker 4: staatee spones in the minimal ear and takes that mechanical
Speaker 4: energy turm electrical energy, which becomes.
Speaker 1: Hello, Aunt Martha.
Speaker 4: And all of that happens at one hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: six thousand, two hundred and eighty two miles per second.
Speaker 4: So energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from
Speaker 4: one form to another. Do you ever really think what
Speaker 4: that means? Well, that's what it is. And so people
Speaker 4: tell me spirit communication isn't real. And Nikola Tesla said,
Speaker 4: when wireless is perfectly applied, the whole earth will be
Speaker 4: converted into a huge brain. We will be able to
Speaker 4: communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance.
Speaker 1: Not only this, but.
Speaker 4: Through television and telephony, we shall see and hear one
Speaker 4: another as perfectly as though we were face to face,
Speaker 4: despite intervening distances of thousands of miles.
Speaker 1: A man will be able or.
Speaker 4: A woman to carry them in their vest pocket. This
Speaker 4: was an interview in nineteen twenty six with Nikola Tesla
Speaker 4: by John Kennedy of Colliers Magazine. So the science fiction,
Speaker 4: the fantasy of yesterday is the reality of today. So
Speaker 4: what's the moral of the story. The next time someone
Speaker 4: doubts your contact with spirits, past life memories, or your
Speaker 4: near death experiences.
Speaker 1: Remember the Force is with you. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: he did.
Speaker 4: He sold Star Wars to Disney for four billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Then he donated most of it to charity. And that's
Speaker 4: the after effect of an end. That's the compassion, the giving,
Speaker 4: the love. That's where the Jedi Night comes from. And
Speaker 4: if you want to find out more about what I
Speaker 4: believe and my experiences, there's two books written by my
Speaker 4: favorite author of all time, me, but they're in several
Speaker 4: languages around the world.
Speaker 1: And it's been very humbling.
Speaker 4: To see how what I have to say has affected
Speaker 4: so many people in so many different ways. Thank you
Speaker 4: Sandra for having me.
Speaker 3: And thank you Mark for a lifetime of work. Wow,
Speaker 3: talk about somebody following their passion. You'll enjoy his books,
Speaker 3: I know you will. Evidence of Eternity dot Com so
Speaker 3: much in one episode. I hope it's made a difference
Speaker 3: back to where we started with the Bible religion. Please
Speaker 3: make me one promise that you'll try to see life
Speaker 3: from other people's perspectives and that you can ask for
Speaker 3: them to see life from your perspective. When my dad died,
Speaker 3: I got heavy into after life investigation, studying grief, wrote
Speaker 3: my book. My sister turned to religion and the Bible.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately we don't have a relationship as she doesn't agree
Speaker 3: with what it is that I do. And that's okay.
Speaker 3: A wise soul once told me relationships can be like
Speaker 3: circles coming apart at the bottom and they come back
Speaker 3: together at the top. Will it be this world or
Speaker 3: the next world? I don't know, but I think my
Speaker 3: sister and my siblings, and my dad and my mom,
Speaker 3: if they didn't play the roles they did, I would
Speaker 3: have never gone on to study the afterlife and be
Speaker 3: with you here today. Don't forget. Come visit me at
Speaker 3: we Dootdie dot com. Join me at one of our
Speaker 3: free Sunday gatherings with medium demonstrations, take a class, and
Speaker 3: so much more. Never forget you are a miraculous being
Speaker 3: of light and that you are surrounded by so much
Speaker 3: love in that parallel universe called the afterlife. You are
Speaker 3: supremely loved. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for
Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and
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