1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: And you're here. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost Day 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: and Paranormal Podcast Network. Your quest for podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: and the unexplained ends here. We invite you to enjoy 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: all our shows we have on this network, and right now, 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: let's start with Shades of the Afterlife with the Sandra Champlain. 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: to Coast am employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi, 13 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death and so 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. This past week, 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: I received an email from a listener who's being told 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: she's doing something against the Bible by researching the afterlife. 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: I recommended people like Pastor John Burke, who you've met 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: on this show, who has studied more than a thousand 22 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: near death experiences and how they are in the Bible. 23 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Also biblical scholar, attorney, afterlife explorer, and podcast host and 24 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: author ROBERTA. Grimes. She's written many books, but there's one 25 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: that really impacted me, and that's her book Liberating Jesus. 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: Over five years ago I hosted a live event and 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: psychic medium Mark Anthony, also known as the Psychic Lawyer, 28 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: was one of the speakers. He gave a most compelling 29 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: present about the history of Christianity, the Bible, talking about 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: reincarnation in the Bible and so much more, and I 31 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: thought I really would love people to hear the presentation. Unfortunately, 32 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: the sound quality of the recording was awful. However, thanks 33 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: to a little new technology, I've been able to clean 34 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: up that audio file. This episode is not just about religion, however, 35 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: Mark talks near death experiences, quantum physics, a little bit 36 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: of Star Wars, and more. It's a fascinating presentation. Mark 37 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: Anthony is an Oxford educated attorney. His books are never 38 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: letting go evidence of eternity and the afterlife. Frequency the 39 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 3: scientific proof of spiritual contact and how that awareness will 40 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: change your life. His website Evidence of Eternity dot com. 41 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: Here's Mark. 42 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I was raised Catholic. 43 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: In our belief system in Christianity, there's either heaven or 44 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: hell when you die. Let's look at the roots of 45 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: our own culture in ancient Hasidic Judaism, in the Kabbala, 46 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: the mystical aspects of Judaism, in the Book of Job 47 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: Naked I left my mother's womb, and naked I shall 48 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 4: return there. And there is a deep belief in Hasidic 49 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: Judaism and in the Kabbala that we actually go through 50 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: several lifetimes, so that there is not just life than death, 51 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: then the afterlife or nothingness. But ancient Judaism does embrace reincarnation. Now, 52 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: let's go back to ancient Jerusalem. Outside of the Great City, 53 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: there is the Henam Valley, and in the Hannam Valley 54 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: is an area called Gethenna. This is where our concept 55 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 4: of reincarnation begins to take a deviation, because Gehenna was 56 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: where people who were dishonored, who were criminals, and who 57 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: could not afford a proper burial, their body was taken 58 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: and burned and they were burned in sulfur pits which. 59 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: Were known as brimstone. 60 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 4: And so if you were evil, if you were a sinner, 61 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: if you were bad, you were subjected to fire and brimstone. 62 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: So throughout the Gedaeic culture that became a thing to 63 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: scare children with. If you're not good, you end up 64 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: in fire and brimstone. So then right around sixty three BC, 65 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: General Pompey the Great. Poppy's an interesting character. He was 66 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: quite an effective general, and he basically conquered most of 67 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 4: the eastern Mediterranean in the name of Rome, and Jedea 68 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: became a client kingdom. 69 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I won't get into the intricacies. 70 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: A client kingdom means that basically you were under Rome's 71 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: thumb without being fully occupied. But the thing is the 72 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: Roman Empire was really good at a number of things, 73 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: one of which was conquest, the other of which was 74 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: This is the Roman Empire its greatest extent, which would 75 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: be around about one point seventeen a d. 76 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: They came into. 77 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: Contact with several other cultures, and as the empire spread 78 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: from Italy, we know that the Greek and Roman religions 79 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: were essentially the same thing. Like in Greek, the king 80 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: of the gods was Zeus, but his name in Latin 81 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: was Jupiter, and so on and so forth. So they 82 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: basically incorporated their religion from the Greeks as they conquered 83 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: into the Iranian border, which they called Persia, and their 84 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: religion of the Zoristorianism and Mythris, the worship of the 85 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: light and the sun god started becoming incorporated into the Empire. Certainly, 86 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: the influence of the Egyptians and Judea became very very 87 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: important in the Roman world, particularly with the rise of Christianity, 88 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: because after Jesus's teachings, Christianity was widely accepted among the Greeks. 89 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: Their culture spread throughout the eastern Mediterranean, and then as 90 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 4: the Empire moved into the border with Germany, they came 91 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: into other influences such as the god Loki, who's the 92 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: lord of the underworld in Norse mythology. He was crafty, malicious, 93 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 4: the god of fire and magic. He could assume different shapes, 94 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 4: and he was responsible for the death of Balder. Balder 95 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: was the son of Odin and his sacred mother Frea, 96 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: and Balder, the god of Light, was struck down by 97 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: the evil Loki, yet rose on the third day. One 98 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 4: can only wonder what type of influence this out on 99 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: other religions swirling around in the Empire in the first 100 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: century AD. And isn't it interesting the way the names 101 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 4: Loki and Lucifer have such a close linguistic significance. So 102 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: over time, as the Empire started turning Christian, it began 103 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: to be influenced by other relige religions, both within and 104 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: on the borders of the empire. In fact, in early Christianity, 105 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: one of the greatest thinkers origin of Alexandria. He was 106 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: a bishop and a theologian. He rejected the notion of 107 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: eternal damnation and said that even Satan eventually will ascend 108 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: to the light, and that we all live a succession 109 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: of lifetimes. There was no hell, there was reincarnation, So 110 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: in the first couple centuries of Christianity, reincarnation was one 111 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: of its basic tenants. 112 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: By the fourth. 113 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 4: Century, things are going badly for the Roman Empire. There 114 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: was constant civil wars. Rival generals were battling, and this 115 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: was the emergence of the general Constantine, who later became 116 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: known as Constantine the Great. Constantine had his hony and 117 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: he was facing off against another general Maxentius, and the 118 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: night before a great battle October twenty seventh, in three 119 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: twelve AD, before the Battle of the Milvian Bridge, Constantine 120 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: had of vision, not quite asleep, not quite awake, and 121 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: he saw the image of a cross in the sky 122 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: glowing white, and he heard a voice that said, in 123 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: this sign you shall conquer. Now, Constantine was not a Christian. 124 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: He was still kind of clinging to the old beliefs 125 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: of the gods on Mount Olympus, which pretty much by 126 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: this time most of the people in the empire didn't 127 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: really follow. But Constantine, being a very astute man, realized, okay, 128 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: this is definitely a sign. So he had all the 129 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: soldiers paint across on their shields. They went into battle 130 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: obliterated Mixentius, and Constantine became absolute ruler of the Roman world. 131 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 4: And he decided that we need one emperor, one religion, 132 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: one system of law. So he ordered all the bishops 133 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 4: to Nicea, which is in modern day Turkey. He stopped 134 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: the persecution of Christians, and he said that I want 135 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: an authoritative text for this new relife, and this is 136 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 4: where the Bible came from. So the bishops throughout the 137 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: Christian world they decided to take the Torah from Judaism 138 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: to be the Old Testament. They started taking gospels. There's 139 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: even an alternate version of Genesis and the Creation, which 140 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 4: somehow ended up in the Qur'an. So there's all these 141 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: different versions and letters of Paul. And so now the 142 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 4: first version of the Bible was released at the Council 143 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: of Nicea in three twenty five AD. Now it gets 144 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: even better because the imperial decree was that Jesus is 145 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: God and will return. But until he does, I Constantine, 146 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 4: Emperor of the Romans and God's vice regent on earth. 147 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: So what did he do? 148 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: The ultimate act of ego is creating God in your 149 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: own image, so that he now gets to hate and 150 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: persecute the same people you do. Well, that's exactly what 151 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: he did. And this is where all this oppression starts 152 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: with Christianity. Before that, it was the teachings of Christ. 153 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: So Constantine changed everything. And by saying that he was 154 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: God's vice region on earth, if you disobeyed the Emperor, 155 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: you were cast into an eternal health, fire and damnation 156 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: in pits of brimstone. Well, his mother Helena, he sent 157 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: her to the Holy Land to Gidea. Helena is credited 158 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: with finding the one true Cross, the cross that Jesus 159 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: was crucified on. Well, let's picture what probably happened. This 160 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: is the Emperor's mother, okay, the most powerful man on earth, 161 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: his word was law. He's just created himself in the 162 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: image of Jesus. Yet think his mother sailed alone to 163 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: the Holy Land. Of course not, She'd probably have about 164 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: three Roman cohorts protecting her. So figure about fifteen hundred 165 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 4: Roman soldiers her personal entourage in a ten t and 166 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: this will be at least another one hundred people. So 167 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: then they land in the port of Caesarea and what 168 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: is now Israel, and of course the two Roman legions 169 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: that were stationed there would be greeting the Emperor's mother, 170 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: along with all the bishops, the Roman government, and all 171 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 4: the citizens. So they bring her to Goal Gotha. So 172 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 4: figure there's about twenty thousand people surrounding Golgatha and they go, oh, 173 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: your majesty, our Siedri was crucified there. And so she 174 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: goes to gal Gotha. Oh, look, Joe, majesty is the 175 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: one true Cross. In fact that he even says it right here, 176 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: all right, So now Helena finds the one true Cross. 177 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: So when she returns to her son, she is now 178 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: Saint Helena and he is Saint Constantine. So what has 179 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: Constantine done. He has created himself in the image of 180 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: Jesus and his mother in the image of the Virgin Mary, 181 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: thus cementing and solidifying his divine right of. 182 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: Being the ruler. 183 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: Now let's talk about Saint Constantine for a minute. The 184 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: first Christian emp Well, the problem with Saint constantin he 185 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: was a genocidal maniac. He pretty much had everybody and 186 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: his family executed for treason. Was paranoid beyond belief. He 187 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: had no problem having thousands of people put to death. 188 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, the. 189 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: Coliseum gladiators that was still in full swing. So basically, 190 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: if you defy the emperor before he got casted into 191 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: fire and brimstone, you're thrown to the lions for entertainment. 192 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 4: So this guy was anything but saintly. By the end 193 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 4: of his life, they said he wore this weird wig 194 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: of all these different colors, and he insisted on people 195 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: grubbling in front of them. 196 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: Constantine went insane with power. 197 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: But he was also a brilliant politician because he solidified 198 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: his position as the divine ruler of the Roman world, 199 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 4: and he also moved the capital of the empire from 200 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 4: Rome to Constantinople, the City of Constantine. 201 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: We need to take our first break, but when we 202 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: come back, you'll hear more about Constantine, the formation of 203 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: the Bible, Reincarnate, some reincarnation stories, and a whole lot more. 204 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 205 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back 206 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Let's continue 207 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: with Mark Anthony's description of Roman Emperor Constantine, his impact 208 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: on the Bible, a look at reincarnation, near death experiences, 209 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: and more. 210 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: Constantine went insane with power, but he was also a 211 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: brilliant politician because he solidified his position as the divine 212 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: ruler of the Roman world, and he also moved the 213 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: capital of the empire from Rome to Constantinople, the city 214 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 4: of Constantine. When he moved the capital of the empire, 215 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: Christianity was initially focused on Constantinople. The Patriarch of Constantinople 216 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: was the leader of the Christian religion and the pope 217 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 4: was the Bishop of Rome. But this is where the 218 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: squabbling in Christianity started, because now you have Roman Christianity 219 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: versus Greek Christianity, and the tension started there. However, because 220 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: of the divine right of kings that Constantine created in 221 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 4: the Christian sense of the empire collapsed with Germanic invasions. 222 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: Every king, every duke and ruler in the western section 223 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: of the Empire took on the role of the divine 224 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: right of kings, and this is where all of this started. 225 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: Even to this day, the monarch of England is known 226 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: as the defender of the Faith. And of course in 227 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: the Eastern Mediterranean, and when Islam started to rise up 228 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: the caliphate. A caliph is an ordained ruler by Allah 229 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: God to rule. I remember when I saw Isis rising 230 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 4: a few years ago, I go, Dear God, because the 231 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: last caliphate was the Ottoman Turkish Empire, which is destroyed 232 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: in World War One. And when I started to see 233 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: a new caliphate rising, this is really serious stuff because 234 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 4: the caliphate is a very dangerous thing because these people 235 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: are ordained by God to conquer. So anyway, all this 236 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: was going on, and so the Western Empire collapses but 237 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: the eastern half now takes on a new name as 238 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: the Byzantine Empire, because Constantinople used to be the city 239 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: of Byzantium. Long story short, Two hundred years after Constantine, 240 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: the Emperor Justinian rises. Justinian's another fascinating guy. Our system 241 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: of justice corpus juris sivilis, was ordered into existence by Justinian, 242 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 4: So our system, our legal system, comes from him. 243 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: But he did another thing. 244 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 4: He ordered the Fifth Ecumenical Council, and at the fifth 245 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: Ecumenical Council, reincarnation was banned as heresy because the Emperor, 246 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: God's emperor on earth. Justinian did not want anyone having 247 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: an escape clause. If you don't listen to the Emperor, 248 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: if you do not follow the laws of the Empire, 249 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: you will be eternally condemned. 250 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: They didn't want anything. 251 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: Oh well, I'll just come back as you know something else. 252 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, no, okay, And so now what to 253 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: a fifth version of the Bible in Constantinople, and of 254 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: course in Rome. The Bishop of Rome, who's now assumed 255 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: the title of Hope wasn't all very happy about that. 256 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: So now we start having different versions of the Bible 257 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: popping up now, people think that reincarnation was eliminated from 258 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: the Bible. However, there's a couple passages where it appears 259 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: to have survived, and the Transfiguration being one of them. 260 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: Where Jesus brings a couple of his disciples up to 261 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: the top of a mountain and he begins to glow 262 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: white and white images appear on earth side of him, 263 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: Elijah and Moses. And if you read and observe authentic 264 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: physical mediumship, this is an account of it. So apparently Jesus, 265 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 4: among many other things, was capable of projecting ecoplasm and 266 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: formed Moses and Elijah on either side of him. And 267 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: then when they come off the mountain, Jesus asks his disciples, 268 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: who do you say that I am? They say, well, 269 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 4: some say that you are the prophet Elijah returned. Others 270 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: say that you are John the Baptist. And according to 271 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: the Gospel, he replied, Elijah did come to restore all things, 272 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: but he came in the form of John the Baptist. 273 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: Elijah lived eight hundred years before Jesus and his cousin 274 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 4: John the Baptist. This by accounts of not just Christian 275 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 4: but also Buddhists and Hindu scholars. They believe this is 276 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: actually a reference to reincarnation, because what Jesus is saying is, yeah, 277 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: Elijah came back as my cousin John over eight hundred 278 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 4: years now. Even though mainstream Islam rejects reincarnation, the more 279 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: progressive schools of thought in Islam welcome it. One of 280 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 4: their greatest philosophers was Roomy, and he wrote that I 281 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: died as a mineral and became a plant. I died 282 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: as a plant and rose to animal. I died as 283 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 4: an animal, and I was man. Why should I sear 284 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: when was eyeless by dying? So what Rumy was saying 285 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 4: is that we go through a succession of lifetimes from 286 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: the transmigration of souls. You go from being an insect 287 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: to an animal, to a human, and on and on. 288 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: Benjamin Franklin actually believed in reincarnation. He wrote his own 289 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 4: epitaph on his tombstone, The printer like the cover of 290 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: an old book, its contents torn out and stripped of 291 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 4: its lettering and gilding, lies here food for worms. But 292 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 4: the work shall not be wholly lost, for it will, 293 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: as he believed, appear once more in a new and 294 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 4: more perfect edition. Corrected and amended by the author Thomas Edison, 295 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: George Patton, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, There's a lot I 296 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: could talk about him. He was working on technology to 297 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: communicate with the other side. And Henry Ford came to 298 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: the conclusion that reincarnation existed when he was twenty six. 299 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: He said, genius's experience. It's not a gift, it's the 300 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: experience of many long lives. The West opened up to 301 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: reincarnation when George Harrison of the Beatles met Rabbi Shankar. 302 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: All of a sudden started writing songs about it, talking 303 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 4: about it openly, and it was starting to go from 304 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: kind of fringe to pop culture. And then Shirley McClain, 305 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: a major Academy Award winning movie star, respected author, goes 306 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: on the world stage and announces that she believes hen reincarnation. 307 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: Oprah Winfrey, Loretta Lynn Prince, all types of people these 308 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 4: days are beginning to believe in reincarnation. Albert Einstein said 309 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 4: that science without religion is lame, and religion without science 310 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 4: is blind. So this brings us to the work of 311 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: doctor Ian Stevenson of the University of Virginia. Unfortunately, he 312 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: passed in two thousand and seven because he did fascinating 313 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: studies in reincarnation children who had not only past life memories, 314 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: but of a recent past life where they could identify 315 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 4: the family that they said they were from. 316 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 317 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: And what he did is he approached reincarnation strictly from 318 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: a scientific viewpoint, and he saw his job as to 319 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: gather all the nominalist data. He kept religion out of it. 320 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 4: He wanted it strictly to be science. And what he 321 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: found what children is as soon as the child could communicate, 322 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 4: they start to describe a previous lifetime. The child remembers 323 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 4: details of his or her death based on information provided 324 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: by the child to the bio life family. The child's 325 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: family from the prior incarnation is eventually identified. Personality traits, 326 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: personal preferences, habits persist from one incarnation to the next. 327 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: The gender usually stays the same. Relationships are renewed through reincarnation. Also, 328 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: phobias traumatic deaths in particular leave an emotional imprint, for example, 329 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: fear of drowning the wall, concerned about being careful in 330 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 4: the water. But some people have these phobias that they 331 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,479 Speaker 4: can't explain, which brings us to the fascinating case of 332 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: James Leininger. As a toddler, he begin to have nightmares 333 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 4: about being trapped in a plane shot down by the Japanese. 334 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: All right, three year old. 335 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: Kids start saying, my plane was a Corsair. My ship 336 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: was then the Tooma and Chi Chi GiMA Chi chi 337 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: gem and his parents are like, what okay? And his 338 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: parents were not particularly religious people. They certainly didn't believe 339 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: in reincarnation, and they're like, what's all this chi chigemon? 340 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: The tona thing? So his father started doing some research. 341 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 4: But then as a son got older, he started drawing 342 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 4: pictures of his playing getting shot down, referred to himself 343 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: as James three, James three, and where's my friend Jack Larson? 344 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: Jack Larson. 345 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 4: Then he had three Gi Joe dolls that he named Leon, 346 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 4: Walter and Billy. Got his father so curious because this 347 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 4: appeared not to be a delusion. This child had facts, 348 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 4: had figures, and his father found out that there was 349 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: indeed a USS Natoma Bay and it was what's known 350 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: as an escort carrier. Toward the end of the war, 351 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: it flew corsairs. Further investigation yielded that there was a 352 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: Lieutenant James Houston Jr. Twenty one year old pilot a 353 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 4: boy in Natoma Bay. It was shot down at Chichi 354 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: Jima during the Battle of Iwo Jima, and Leon Walter 355 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: and Billy were three of the pilots that flew with 356 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: James Houston. But why James. His father's name was Bruce, 357 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 4: Bruce Leninger. And then they found out that James Houston's 358 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: father and grandfather were both named James, so that if 359 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: he were James Houston, he would be referring to himself 360 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: as James the Third. But what about Jack Larson, the 361 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: friend he talked about the most. Jack was alive. His 362 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 4: parents took James to a reunion of the USS Natoma Bay, 363 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: so Jack Larson was not only alive. When Lininger attended 364 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: the Natoma Bay reunion, he started talking about intricate details 365 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 4: about his crewmates, even talk about girls they used to date, 366 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: and Larson said, this kid's got to be Jim Houston. 367 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: Then he meets Anne Houston Baron, who would have been 368 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: the sister of James Houston, and she said, this child 369 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: couldn't know the things he does. 370 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: He just couldn't. 371 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 4: So I believe he is somehow part of my brother. 372 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: Now my job is to present evidence for you to decide. 373 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 4: But this brings us next to the curious case of 374 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 4: Louise Eddie. Louise Eddie was born in nineteen oh four 375 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 4: to a proper Edwardian family in England, and when she 376 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: was about four years old, she fell. She had a 377 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: terrible injury and when she woke up she started having 378 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: these memories of a past life in ancient Egypt. By 379 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 4: the time she was eighteen, she managed to garner the 380 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 4: funds and went to Egypt. She went to work and 381 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 4: volunteered with archaeologists and they were astounded because within a 382 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: year she could not only read Egyptian hieroglyphics, she could 383 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: actually speak the language, and the archaeologists saying it takes 384 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: PhDs decades to get to the point where she learned 385 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: it right away. The archaeologist humored her, and so she 386 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: started to tell them, well, if you excavate over here, 387 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: there used to be an irrigation system, and over there 388 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: there used to be an orchard, like yeah, yeah, And 389 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 4: then they started finding remains of an orchard exactly where 390 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: she said it was, remains of an irrigation system exactly 391 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 4: where she said it was, among reincarnation experts. People conclude 392 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: that she's an authentic case. And what's fascinating, she's not 393 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: talking about a lifetime a few decades back. She's talking 394 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: about one thirty three centuries ago. 395 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: Time for the break and we'll be right back. You're 396 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 397 00:25:37,280 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast, a paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to 398 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and we're listening 399 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: to Mark Anthony, author of Evidence of Eternity. Now we're 400 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 3: going to turn to the realm of quantum physics and 401 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: the afterlife. 402 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 4: Albert Einstein matters energy. Energy is light. We are all 403 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: light beings. Think about it. Life depends on light. If 404 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: it weren't for the light of the sun, this planet 405 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: would be nothing more than a chunk of ice floating 406 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: through space. The food that we eat, the plants, the 407 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: animals they eat, the plants, are all dependent upon photosynthesis. 408 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 4: Every great spiritual teacher has described God in terms of 409 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: the light. Buddhist said, this is the way to the light. 410 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: Jesus said, I am the way to the light. Christian 411 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: had described the light Mohammed the light the Native Americans 412 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: the light, the philosopher Rumy said, the lamps may be different, 413 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: but the light is the same. So seeing reoccurring descriptions 414 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 4: of God being described in light, and for those of 415 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 4: us who do encounter the other sided, for all of 416 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 4: you who've had these experiences, we believe that perceiving the 417 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: light is a form of perception of the spiritual energy 418 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: of the infinite, which what you and I. 419 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: Could call God. 420 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: Now, through the study of quantum physics, what we have 421 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: found is that matter and energy, which includes light, are 422 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: composed of tiny units of electromagnetic energy known as quanta. 423 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: Long story short, we've all learned in school that everything's 424 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 4: made up of molecules. Molecules are made of atoms. Atoms 425 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 4: are made of electrons, protons, and neutrons, and they are 426 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 4: made of yet a smaller particle on a subatomic level, 427 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: known as quanta, which is electromagnetic energy. Everything is this 428 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: carpet you, the air we're breathing, the light, we're seeing, 429 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: the space between the Earth and the Sun. The nuclear 430 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: reactions within the Sun and beyond are all at the 431 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 4: most basic unit electromagnetic energy, known as quanta. Now, for decades, 432 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 4: scientists have wondered if you drop something on your foot, 433 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: why and how do you immediately feel it. Clearly it's 434 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: not chemical that would take too long to slash on 435 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: through your body, so it has to be electrical, and 436 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 4: it appears to move at the speed of light. And 437 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: in recent decades the Russians, particularly Serja Maybrow at the 438 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: Lebedev Institute of Physics in Moscow, have discovered biophotons that 439 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 4: our cells actually emit flashes of light to communicate with 440 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: each other. This is not bioluminescence. This is not what 441 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 4: a firefly does or a lantern fish does. This is 442 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,239 Speaker 4: invisible to the naked eye, and our cells appear to 443 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: emit flashes of ultra weak light and that's whyther known 444 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 4: as biophotons. So what this indicates is that our body 445 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: is actually a matrix of light. Fritz Albert Poff from 446 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 4: the International Institute of Biophysics in Germany, so that biophoton 447 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: emission is a general phenomenon of all living systems. Biophotons 448 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: originate from a coherent photon field within the living organism, 449 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 4: its function being intra and intercellular regulation and communication. In 450 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: other words, our body communicates through light and We know 451 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: that light can transmit information and data because the space 452 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: center does that. Space programs do this. One of the 453 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: concepts I developed in my book Evidence or Attorney is enlightenment. 454 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 4: Enlightenment can be either empirical knowledge that all of a 455 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: sudden you figure out, or it is your perception of 456 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: the divine in the spiritual sense. But what we must 457 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: also realize is enlightenment is embracing and accepting the light 458 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: which is in with all of us. So think about 459 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: it like this, everything's quanta, including light. Our body creates 460 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 4: the same light that we perceive when perceiving God. Ergo, 461 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: the Kingdom of God is within, and we know from 462 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: the laws of physics. Energy is neither created nor destroyed, 463 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: only transferred from one form to another. The quantum field 464 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: in the brain is energy, and faith teaches us the soul, 465 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: also known as consciousness, is an immortal living spirit, and 466 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 4: that the soul pre exists the body comes into the body, 467 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 4: lives on after the body dies. Energy neither created nor destroyed, 468 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: only transferred from one form to another. The death of 469 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 4: consciousness only exists as a thought because people identify themselves 470 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: with a body, and so that if a body receives 471 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 4: consciousness the same way a cable box receives satellite signals. Then, 472 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: of course consciousness doesn't end at death. But what does 473 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: happen is that the energy of your consciousness gets recycled 474 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: back into a different body at some point, and in 475 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 4: the meantime exists outside of the physical body, on some 476 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 4: other level of reality and possibly in another universe. This 477 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: is the scientific explanation for reincarnation. So when people say that, oh, well, 478 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: you know your consciousness is generated by the brain, well, unfortunately, 479 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: almost forty thousand Americans a year developed Alzheimer's, and the 480 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: death often involves a long physical and mental decline where 481 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: the person is non responsive. I've seen this with people 482 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: very close to me. While my father didn't technically have Alzheimer's, 483 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: he had cancer which got into his brain, and it 484 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: was a Navy seal, a NASA engineer, and watching him 485 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 4: not even be able to recognize where he was was 486 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: one of the most heart wrenching things that I've ever 487 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: been through, probably ever will. But we know that a 488 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 4: brain affected by cancer or in this case, with Alzheimer's, 489 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 4: is physically different. A brain affected by Alzheimer's is shrunken, 490 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: it's malnourished, it's deformed. And what happens is that brain 491 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 4: scientists agree, even the skeptics, they'll agree that a severely 492 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: damaged brain makes normal cognition impossible. But then we've been 493 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: documenting worldwide, five to ten percent of the cases involving 494 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: terminally ill people suffering from Alzheimer's and severe dementia where 495 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 4: death is very near, a phenomenon which defies medical science 496 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: has been identified. The patient suddenly regains lucidity right before death. 497 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 4: They wake up, they recognize family members, they start communicating 498 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: with them. 499 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: Guess what. 500 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 4: Hippocrates in ancient Greece actually documented cases of this, So 501 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: did Plutarch in ancient Rome, the Hindus, the Muslims. Throughout 502 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: thousands of years, cases of this have been documented, and 503 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: this is now known as terminal lucidity. Doctor Michael Nahm 504 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: in Germany said, terminal lucidy is an unexpected return of 505 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: mental clarity which occurs right before a patient's death. And 506 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: the thing is, it's not just in Alzheimer's, it's in 507 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 4: several different types of illnesses brain toor strokes, meningitis, schizophrenia. 508 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: In other words, there is no one cause. There is 509 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 4: no explanation for it. There's no observable change in the brain. 510 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: And why does somebody suddenly recover complete sanity from someone 511 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: has been non responsive for days, weeks, months, even years, 512 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: And what accounts for terminal lucidity. All the doctors agree 513 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: that right before you die or brain doesn't suddenly grow 514 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: a billion new neurons. Well, that's because consciousness has nothing 515 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: to do with your brain. Consciousness derives from quantum vibrations 516 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: within the brain's neurons, and in the spiritual sense, consciousness 517 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: has been here all along. These are findings by Sir 518 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 4: Roger Penrose of Oxford, Stuart Hammerhoff, University of Arizona, the 519 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: MIT and Institute Material Sciences of Japan, and the University 520 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania, and one of my favorite professors, Professor Hans 521 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 4: Peter dah It's a Max Planck Institute for Physics in Germany. 522 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 4: Zubrain is like a come true to hard drives. When 523 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: Venza had drive dies, we do not lose this information, 524 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: this consciousness. Zubadhi dies, but the spiritual quantum field continues. 525 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 4: In this way, we're immortal. But that's what they're saying, 526 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: that the brain is actually a formatting and hosting device. 527 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: It does not create who and what you are, and 528 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: that ties into what faith has been teaching us and 529 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 4: what the biocentrists have been teaching us throughout the center. 530 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: Even Leonardo da Vinci concluded that consciousness pre existed the 531 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 4: brain and then left the brain upon physical death. So 532 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: the Buddha and science agree, you are not your body, 533 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: So quantum conscience business. When the body dies, the energy 534 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 4: of a quantum spiritual field is not destroyed, it is transferred. 535 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: Where does it go? 536 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 4: Well, that's where all the mediums here and Sonia come in, 537 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: right and Sandra the schwartz Child. Quantum lattice theory is 538 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: fascinating because scientists have found that an electron will disappear 539 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 4: and then reappear the same electron in a different location 540 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: without traversing going through the matter in between. 541 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: How does it do this? Why does it do this? 542 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: Where does it go? Well? 543 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: The theory is it's a quantum leap, which is not 544 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 4: just a show with Scott Bacula in it. No, it 545 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: is a transfer of our energy from one dimension to 546 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: another through what they believe to be a very small 547 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: version of a wormhole, and that dimension we refer to 548 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 4: as the other side. You can call it heaven, happy Valley, Nirvana, 549 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. It is a parallel 550 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 4: dimension which runs and exists with our dimension in near 551 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: death experiences. This is where we're beginning to see that 552 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: there is a scientific basis for the two different dimensions, 553 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 4: because when a person physically dies in that person's spirit 554 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 4: separates from their body, their consciousness remains intact and they 555 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: go into the light. Doctor Raymond Moody, I know everybody 556 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 4: here is familiar with him. Great guy was such an 557 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 4: honor when he endorsed my book Evidence of Maturity. Back 558 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 4: in the nineteen seventies. He started using the scientific method 559 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: of objective analysis to compile data on accounts that have 560 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 4: been going on since the dawn of history about people 561 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: who have died in come back to life and told 562 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 4: of their experiences, and he coined the phrase near death experience. 563 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 4: My good friend, doctor Jeffrey Long, is the founder of 564 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 4: end Earth, the Near Death Experience Research Foundation, and he's noncologist, okay, 565 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: And he said, I had no spiritual background or in this, 566 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 4: and I'm seeing one patient after another start talking about this. 567 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 4: So he created ENDERF, which is the world's largest database 568 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 4: of near death experiences. So many respected people in both 569 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 4: ancient and modern times have reported NDEs near death experiences. 570 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: Plato wrote in the last passage in his book or 571 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: series of books, the Republic talks about the soldier Err 572 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: and Err was killed in a battle, and I suppose 573 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 4: he was dead for nine days. They put him on 574 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 4: a funeral pyre, and all of a sudden he wakes 575 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: up and he starts to tell about this walld he 576 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 4: went to that was filled with light and had nothing 577 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 4: to do with the Greek mythological belief system of the time. 578 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: And so Plato wrote that Er left the cave of 579 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 4: shadows to see the light of truth. 580 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: I have a sneaky suspicion you can agree this is 581 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 3: some fascinating stuff. When we come back from the break, 582 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: we'll hear some near death experience stories and how Star 583 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: Wars is connected. We'll be right back with more, Mark Anthony. 584 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,720 Speaker 3: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 585 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: and Coastcoast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades 586 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and you're listening to 587 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 3: the psychic lawyer Mark Anthony. You can find out more 588 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: about him at Evidenceofeternity dot Com and his books Evidence 589 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 3: of Eternity, The Afterlife Frequency and Never Letting Go Healing 590 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: Grief with Help from the Other Side. Let's continue with 591 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 3: the speech he made at my we Don't Die event 592 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 3: in Orlando over five years ago. And I am extremely 593 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 3: grateful for modern technology to make it possible for you 594 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 3: to hear today the Bible. 595 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 4: Not to be outdone the apostle Paul. He was a 596 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: Roman citizen, which meant that he had special protections and guarantees. 597 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: Is an original name was Saul, and his job was 598 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 4: to persecute Christians. And supposedly when he was going from 599 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: Judea to Damascus, he was struck by a bright white 600 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 4: light and lay dead for three days and then came back. 601 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 4: And many theologians believe that Paul may have been writing 602 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 4: about his own near death experience. Mozart, Queen Victoria, Abraham Lincoln, 603 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: Winston Churchill, Sartha Conan Doyle. Elizabeth Taylor did a wonderful 604 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: interview where she talked about her nde. She died on 605 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 4: an operating table and went into the light and she 606 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: saw Michael Todd and in more recent years, Sharon Stone, 607 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: Leonardo DiCaprio, Tracy Morgan, Johnny Depp, Charlie Steering, George Clooney. 608 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: I have all reported near death experiences as I had one, 609 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: my father had two near death experiences, and my mother 610 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 4: also had a near death experience. The funny thing is 611 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 4: when my parents had them, the term NDE didn't exist. 612 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: But growing up in a family of people who can 613 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 4: see spirits, they knew that they had journey to the 614 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 4: other side. Near death experience similarities. You see people who 615 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 4: are dead, you're convinced of their reality. Race, gender, religion 616 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 4: are not a factor. Drugs and anesthesia are not a factor. 617 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 4: It's not a hallucination. Their psychic ability is enhanced and 618 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 4: you lose your fear of death. Doctor Kenneth Ring, friend 619 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 4: and colleague near death experience researcher, wrote about a woman 620 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: who died on an operating table. All since she felt 621 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 4: her consciousness separated from her body, and she was hovering 622 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 4: above the table, and she saw everybody in the operating room, 623 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 4: and she said she went by a light fixture and 624 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 4: noticed the top of it was really dirty, and the 625 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 4: next thing she knew, she was hovering above the hospital 626 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 4: and noticed in one of the storm drains the rain gutters. 627 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: There was this blue tennis shee stuck there, so they 628 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: revived her. When she came out of it, she starts 629 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 4: talking about The surgeon goes, get two people up on 630 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: the roof right now, and they went up in exactly 631 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 4: where she said it was was a blue tennis shoe. 632 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 4: And I love it when the skeptics say, well, this 633 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 4: is a function of the dying brain, is it now, 634 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 4: doctor John Hagen of the University of Missouri, So we 635 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 4: can bring patients back from death who have traveled further 636 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 4: on the path than at any other time in history. 637 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: The recollections often refute physicians scientific explanations of how an 638 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 4: oxygen starved brain can produce such vivid and often corroborated 639 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 4: for ridical recollections. So what are the after effects of 640 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 4: a near death experience? How does it affect the people 641 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 4: that have them? Well, it's a life changing event, and 642 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 4: the ears lose their fear of death or commer less judgmental, 643 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: less materialistic, become more spiritual, compassionate, and loving. They have 644 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: enhanced psychic ability, a sense of timelessness. At age sixteen, 645 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 4: George Lucas died in a car accident. He flatlined for 646 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 4: twenty minutes and he was revived and told of going 647 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 4: into the light and this amazing experience. By the time 648 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 4: he was twenty two, had a draft of Star Wars 649 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 4: and he talks about the Force, the energy which binds 650 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 4: and connects all of us. Now, the Force is what 651 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 4: gives a Jedi Knight his power. It is an energy 652 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 4: field created by all living things. It surrounds us and 653 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 4: penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together. Sounds a lot 654 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 4: like Kwanta, doesn't it. Now, think about what a Jedi 655 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 4: Knight symbolizes versus like Darth Vader and the dark side 656 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 4: of the Force. The Jedi Knight is the one positively 657 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 4: influenced and is spiritual as a reuss ultimate a near 658 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 4: death experience, less judgmental, less materialistic, compassionate feeling of interconnectedness, 659 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 4: that we're all one, we're all energetically interconnected. And Darth 660 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 4: Vader is the symbol of the ego. It's pure narcissism, power, control, aggression. 661 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 4: But think about the effects of a near death experience. 662 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 4: I mean, Star Wars is one of the biggest movie 663 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 4: franchises in history and it's still ongoing, and how it's 664 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 4: affected us. People talk about the force and all that, 665 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 4: and this is where it came from, was from George 666 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 4: Lucas's near death experience. Edgar Mitchell astronaut, Navy pilot, astronomical 667 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: engineer and ufoologists in my life have been honored to 668 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 4: meet Neil Armstrong, Buzz Algren, John Glenn and Mike Foreman, 669 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 4: who is one of the pilots of the Space Shuttle, 670 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 4: and it's really interesting when they're not on camera and 671 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 4: what they talk about. But edgar Mitchell said that when 672 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 4: subatomic matter is in a process together, subsequently the subatomic 673 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 4: particles go apart from each each other and across the universe. 674 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 4: When they do this, they will remain entangled. This means 675 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 4: if he do something to one, the other responds instantaneously. 676 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 4: This is what's known as quantum entanglement. For every action, 677 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 4: there's an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever a man sows, 678 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: he shall read. 679 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: Okay. All of the great. 680 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 4: Religions talk about this, and now quantum physicists have proven 681 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 4: that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. 682 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,320 Speaker 4: Albert Einstein there is no matter. There is just energy 683 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 4: which vibrates at different frequencies. So we are living in 684 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 4: the material world, and let's go with what Einstein said. 685 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 4: There's no matter. We're just energy and we're vibrating at 686 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 4: a lower and slower frequency. That's why I call it 687 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 4: the material world dimension. When we die, we go to 688 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 4: the other side and once we are at a higher 689 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 4: vibration that our energy, our frequency amplitude is increased. And 690 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,760 Speaker 4: so interdimensional communication, which is when you have a dream 691 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 4: or contact experience or mediums were able to communicate with 692 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: the other side, or near death experiences, this is what's happening. 693 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 4: It is where the two energetic systems, the two parallel 694 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 4: dimensions universes, overlap and intersect, and that's how spirit communication 695 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 4: and mediumship is possible. That's the basis for near death experiences. 696 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 4: This isn't philosophy, This is physics. But does it sound 697 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 4: like science fiction? Think about what happens. We're going to 698 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: make a cell phone call. So let's say you want 699 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 4: to talk to your aunt Martha and England. Your brain 700 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 4: sends an electromagnetic impulse your lungs, So the electrical energy 701 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 4: in your brain becomes muscular energy, which causes your lungs 702 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 4: to contract, forcing air out. BEI another vibration goes to 703 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 4: your vocal cords, and so that mechanical energy becomes muscular energy, 704 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 4: which becomes soundwave energy, which it's the plate in your 705 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: phone and begins to vibrate. So the soundwave energy then 706 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 4: becomes mechanical energy. It's because the electrical energy, and then 707 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 4: it becomes radio wave energy when your phone transmits the 708 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 4: radio signal to a towel, taking the radiowave energy, converting 709 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 4: to electrical energy, running through miles of wires up to 710 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 4: a collection point with then converse electrical energy into radio 711 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 4: off energy, which then hits a satellite in orbit, taking 712 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 4: the radio ways turning into a system of microwave energy 713 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 4: and transmit through a number of satellites, so finds the 714 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: right one to givert the microwaves back to radio waves, 715 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 4: goes the collection point in England, turning the radio waves 716 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 4: into electrical energy, which goes through several miles of wires 717 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 4: to another point during the electrical energy back into radio 718 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 4: wave energy which hits the antenna and Aunt Martha's cell 719 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 4: phone taking the electrical energy turning into mechanical energy as 720 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 4: the plate in her cell phone begins a vibrary take 721 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 4: the mechanical enginer and sound wave energy to set your 722 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 4: ear brunt, and then her ear jump begins a vibrate, 723 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 4: causing the eighth cranial nerve to be struck by these 724 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 4: staatee spones in the minimal ear and takes that mechanical 725 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 4: energy turm electrical energy, which becomes. 726 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: Hello, Aunt Martha. 727 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 4: And all of that happens at one hundred and eighty 728 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 4: six thousand, two hundred and eighty two miles per second. 729 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 4: So energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from 730 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 4: one form to another. Do you ever really think what 731 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 4: that means? Well, that's what it is. And so people 732 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 4: tell me spirit communication isn't real. And Nikola Tesla said, 733 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 4: when wireless is perfectly applied, the whole earth will be 734 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 4: converted into a huge brain. We will be able to 735 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 4: communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance. 736 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: Not only this, but. 737 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 4: Through television and telephony, we shall see and hear one 738 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 4: another as perfectly as though we were face to face, 739 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 4: despite intervening distances of thousands of miles. 740 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: A man will be able or. 741 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 4: A woman to carry them in their vest pocket. This 742 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 4: was an interview in nineteen twenty six with Nikola Tesla 743 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 4: by John Kennedy of Colliers Magazine. So the science fiction, 744 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 4: the fantasy of yesterday is the reality of today. So 745 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 4: what's the moral of the story. The next time someone 746 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,919 Speaker 4: doubts your contact with spirits, past life memories, or your 747 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 4: near death experiences. 748 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: Remember the Force is with you. I'll tell you what 749 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: he did. 750 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 4: He sold Star Wars to Disney for four billion dollars. 751 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 4: Then he donated most of it to charity. And that's 752 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 4: the after effect of an end. That's the compassion, the giving, 753 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 4: the love. That's where the Jedi Night comes from. And 754 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 4: if you want to find out more about what I 755 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: believe and my experiences, there's two books written by my 756 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 4: favorite author of all time, me, but they're in several 757 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 4: languages around the world. 758 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: And it's been very humbling. 759 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 4: To see how what I have to say has affected 760 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 4: so many people in so many different ways. Thank you 761 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 4: Sandra for having me. 762 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 3: And thank you Mark for a lifetime of work. Wow, 763 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 3: talk about somebody following their passion. You'll enjoy his books, 764 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: I know you will. Evidence of Eternity dot Com so 765 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 3: much in one episode. I hope it's made a difference 766 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 3: back to where we started with the Bible religion. Please 767 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,720 Speaker 3: make me one promise that you'll try to see life 768 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 3: from other people's perspectives and that you can ask for 769 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 3: them to see life from your perspective. When my dad died, 770 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 3: I got heavy into after life investigation, studying grief, wrote 771 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 3: my book. My sister turned to religion and the Bible. 772 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 3: Unfortunately we don't have a relationship as she doesn't agree 773 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 3: with what it is that I do. And that's okay. 774 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 3: A wise soul once told me relationships can be like 775 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 3: circles coming apart at the bottom and they come back 776 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: together at the top. Will it be this world or 777 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: the next world? I don't know, but I think my 778 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 3: sister and my siblings, and my dad and my mom, 779 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 3: if they didn't play the roles they did, I would 780 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 3: have never gone on to study the afterlife and be 781 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 3: with you here today. Don't forget. Come visit me at 782 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: we Dootdie dot com. Join me at one of our 783 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 3: free Sunday gatherings with medium demonstrations, take a class, and 784 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 3: so much more. Never forget you are a miraculous being 785 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 3: of light and that you are surrounded by so much 786 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 3: love in that parallel universe called the afterlife. You are 787 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 3: supremely loved. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for 788 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 3: listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and 789 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 790 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,279 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 791 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 2: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 792 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 2: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 793 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 2: to iHeartRadio dot com.