WEBVTT - My Grillz Maker - Alligator Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>So pull your lip. So, uh, all right, that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>But no I need to bite down for any drool

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<v Speaker 1>you might have.

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<v Speaker 2>Pasha show. Hey guys, it's Daniel Tosh and welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>another episode of Toss Show, the most peaceful podcast out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we get some light rain? Yeah, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>How about rain on a metal roof with an occasional thunder? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is peaceful. Can we add, as INSI some random

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<v Speaker 2>animal noises? How about some ocean in the background. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this episode is getting more and more zen by the second.

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<v Speaker 2>How about some wind chimes? We had some wind chimes

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<v Speaker 2>there too. Good? Good, just some soft piano in addition,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little overwhelming. I'm sure what else? What else

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<v Speaker 2>would help this show?

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<v Speaker 1>A big train?

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<v Speaker 2>A train? Eddie?

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<v Speaker 1>So peaceful.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing today, Eddie?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting excited for Fourth of July?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you taking the family this year? Griswold?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this year we're gonna spend it at

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<v Speaker 1>the beach near the house.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's boring the beach. Yeah. Now, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I need to tell people where Eddie lives. But

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<v Speaker 2>he lives in South Bay here in Los Angeles. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I talk about South Bay, I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>Palace Verdes or Torrents. I'm not even talking about El Segondo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking strictly Manhattan Beach and Hermosa Beach. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even care about Rodondo Beach. Now on fourth of July,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just nonsense. Girls from age thirteen to fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>dressed like complete hors and they walk up and down

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<v Speaker 2>the strand and that's the sidewalk that runs on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's these you know, these million dollar homes

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<v Speaker 2>that are just one right after another, and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they run between ten million to twenty five million. That's

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<v Speaker 2>about the price range of most of those strand homes

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<v Speaker 2>now on fourth of July. For whatever reason, when I

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<v Speaker 2>used to live in South Bay, you can just randomly

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<v Speaker 2>go into people's houses that day. You just every house

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<v Speaker 2>has just opened up and debauchery is going on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a party. Just serve an alcohol. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I recall Fourth of July. So that's what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do with your family, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take him down to some of those big

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<v Speaker 1>old houses and.

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<v Speaker 2>M well, that sounds nice. You grilling this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be grilling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how often do you grill? Grilled?

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<v Speaker 1>Last night I grilled like three times a week.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a three time a week griller. I'm a once

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<v Speaker 2>a week griller. The other day, my wife made me grill,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was. She did all the prep work, but

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<v Speaker 2>then she hands me so many things like it was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eggplant, and she wanted this this bread grilled.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was shrimp, and there was chicken thighs. Every

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<v Speaker 2>single thing she gave me had a different increment of

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<v Speaker 2>time that it needed to be grilled. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>the sheer number when you give me shrimp to grill

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<v Speaker 2>and just give them loose and then and then vegetables

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just loose, They're not on a skewer. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm spending I'm burning every hair on my hand. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just in there way too long. It's like, oh, it

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<v Speaker 2>just needs two minutes each side. Oh great, there's three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred of them. I mean, if you're looking, you ain't cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that. Oh I find it painful. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of grilling, a lot of flipping. I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was annoyed, and then then She's like, oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, you could have done the egg plant a

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<v Speaker 2>little longer. Nobody wants to eat that ship anyway. It

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<v Speaker 2>tastes like mush. Are you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Gas grill guy, yep, get a webber.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a webber.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a blackstone to also flat top.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure I have a Viking. I have a wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a wolf. I don't even know it's a wolf.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got red knobs. I love it. She works right away.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never used the rotisserie thing in it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>got a seer thing I've I've never used the seer

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<v Speaker 2>thing either. There's a lot of a lot it does

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't use. There's a there's lights inside of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't use those either. I'm always shocked that they work.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems like it seems like that'd be too hot for light.

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<v Speaker 2>I really just set it to medium high for anything,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what I'm cooking. Sometimes when I do chicken wings,

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<v Speaker 2>I do the high heat on one section and then

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<v Speaker 2>just set them on the other side where there's no heat,

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<v Speaker 2>and just you know, it takes thirty forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's as fancy as I get. Oh you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>also do something with a baked potato that I think

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty good. You take a baked potato. This is

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<v Speaker 2>how I grill my baked potatoes. And I take a

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<v Speaker 2>fork and I stab it a million times all around.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's dangerous because a potato is dense. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I smother it with olive oil, tons and tons of

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<v Speaker 2>olive oil. And then I double or triple wrap it

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<v Speaker 2>in aluminum foil and I grill it for about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour hour fifteen and basically, if done right, it comes

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<v Speaker 2>out like a twice baked potato. It's almost like mashed

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<v Speaker 2>potatoes when you open it up. That's fun. Well, all

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<v Speaker 2>this grill talk is misleading because today's episode is about grills. Enjoy. Pasha,

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<v Speaker 2>my guest today, believes that the key to a beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>smile is to have the words baller written in diamonds

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<v Speaker 2>on your teeth. He's the grill maker to the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Please welcome, Alligator Jesus. Thank you. Do you want me

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<v Speaker 2>to call you alligator Jesus at all time?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what my mom calls me, So she.

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<v Speaker 2>Calls you alligator Jesus. Never even shortens it.

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<v Speaker 1>She shortens it the gator.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh there she's the gator. Yeah, but who gave you

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<v Speaker 2>the name alligator Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>And not me? It was everybody that was teasing me.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you see that line right there, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little scar. I still have a pin in my wrist

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<v Speaker 1>from wrestling an alligator.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was younger, I used to I used to

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<v Speaker 2>catch alligators and mess with them too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, it's molesting. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>restable fence in Florida what not.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was doing it. When I was doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're like yanking them out a pond off the golf course. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like throwing them in the river, and the country club

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<v Speaker 2>guy would give us fifty bucks for getting rid of

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<v Speaker 2>them exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a thing that in Florida. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very normal as Florida guys, we know, yeah, yeah, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. But I went with Native Americans. I

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<v Speaker 1>went with Makasuki Indians on an airboat and we sought

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<v Speaker 1>out a very gargantuan, big ass alligator uh huh. And

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<v Speaker 1>the guy jumped into the water and hugged the thing

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<v Speaker 1>and taped up its mouth so I could do a

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<v Speaker 1>photo op thing. And they were pretty rude to the gator.

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<v Speaker 1>They were kicking it and they were really freaking mean

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and I just had had enough and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to let it go. But they were like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you let it go because they weren't gonna untape it

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<v Speaker 1>untape it. And I'm like, well it'll starve. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>what was there a response like now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>let it go. All right, go for it. And it

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<v Speaker 1>broke my wrists in the process of trying to let

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<v Speaker 1>it go. I mean, it's a pissed off like a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass skater. I don't know how big of a

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<v Speaker 1>gator you ever.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no mind. The ones I messed with were in

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<v Speaker 2>the three to six foot max.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, this was like over twelve feet. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass game. This is a big boy, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it it, you know, hold on to it. It broke

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<v Speaker 1>my wrist and this thing swelled up. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty three because under twenty five I still had

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<v Speaker 1>my mother's health insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's where alligator Jesus came from there, because

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<v Speaker 2>you should be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>They they made fun of me because I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to save the gator like some sort of alligator Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just a max sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. No, I'm happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Born in Miami, Born and raised in Miami, are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Percent born in Havana. My dad on a technicality born

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, but Cuban, And yeah, we're raised in Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>My three brothers and I Miami's very different now, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely crazy different. I I live there in the mid

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<v Speaker 2>late nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, So you saw it. Our Bosel came in

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<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands, like two thousand and one or two,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really did a big change of the ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>down there, because of course that brought all the tension

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<v Speaker 1>and the money and the people to invest in South Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>because now all of a sudden, everybody from around the

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<v Speaker 1>world saw the economic possibilities of South Florida, as they

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<v Speaker 1>did time and time again, you know, in history of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone would just come in from somewhere else see the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of that South Florida ground and say I can

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<v Speaker 1>do something and build something from here.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the ass out me.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Did you were you a Canes fan?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Definitely?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you still a Canes fan?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't follow any sports ball. These days,

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<v Speaker 1>athletes will hit me up and be like, oh, do

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<v Speaker 1>you watch our games?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, not really, you don't care at all about sports. Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. Now, you went to FIU. Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 2>the only person I know that went to FYU.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, history of the world, there's some I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of artists and people are coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>FIU that are making some notable changes in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever want to go to UF Never? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean neither.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't my Stee's.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife, horror, whole family, all gators.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, they do that whole thing beyond the

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<v Speaker 1>anything chops.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess it's better than the other racist hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the seminoles, definitely. I mean, hopefully they cut that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You studied at FIUEH Jewelry Design.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did well. They had a small metals metalsmithing program, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got into that because I had to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of photography, which was my main thing, because of

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<v Speaker 1>an allergy to the chemistry. By the time I was

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<v Speaker 1>turning eighteen, I started to notice these like rashes on

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<v Speaker 1>my hands, and by the time I turned twenty, my

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<v Speaker 1>hands would just literally go like this, and I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to go outside, get fresh air, run my hands under

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<v Speaker 1>cold water to like get dexterity back in my fingertips

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<v Speaker 1>because the saturation to all that chemistry was really messing

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<v Speaker 1>me up.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's talk about your right. When did you

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<v Speaker 2>move from Miami to Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty eleven I started coming out here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then twenty twelve, January fourth, twenty twelve was a day

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here officially and landed in Culver City and

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<v Speaker 1>said this is where I'm gonna going to live.

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<v Speaker 2>When did you get to jewelry? Because you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately once I moved here, I was in the art

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<v Speaker 1>world and the jewelry was my hobby.

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<v Speaker 2>And who shoved you in the right direction?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Murakami to Kasha Markami. He's the one who I

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<v Speaker 1>came out here working with him, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like he had already seen your jewelry before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a funny story, it's all. I was a curator

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<v Speaker 1>and art director at a museum. On a lunch break

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm walking down South Beach on Washington Boulevard. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a pawnshop next to a nightclub as there is, and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked and I did a double take, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fucking Murakami in the window there. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was a gold sunflower eyes like the sunflower with a

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<v Speaker 1>smiley face inside of a skull that was completely covered

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<v Speaker 1>in diamonds, and it was a ring, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>blatantly a Shei Murakami artwork. I recognized it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>went into the pawn shop asked him if I could

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<v Speaker 1>see it, and the guy was kind of like, Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>this fucking thing. You know, I've had it in my

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<v Speaker 1>window in the store in Miami Downtown and no one's

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it for two and a half years. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you go, you want it six thousand dollars? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? We just sold Murkami prints for

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty grand at the gallery that I was working

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<v Speaker 1>with in LA.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you question or were you positive you knew what

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>It was signed on the inside, it had like the monogram,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a serial number, it had the carrot. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this was as legit as it could be, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I put a deposit down six hundred bucks. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>all my money at the time, and I went upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>and called Kai Kaikiki, his organization in Long Island City,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were very dismissive of me, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why are you calling us about this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, Miami Beach detective was at my door

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<v Speaker 1>the next day asking questions about me. So we went

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<v Speaker 1>over the pawn shop and it turned out the thing

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<v Speaker 1>had been stolen from Murkami years before at art Basel. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like a story that Murkamy and his

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<v Speaker 1>people really wanted just to go away. They didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>this thing to resurface. They whatever, I guess insurance had

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<v Speaker 1>been paid out, so then this thing kind of popping

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<v Speaker 1>up again was a problem for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I did get was it dangerous? Were you ever in danger?

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<v Speaker 1>No? But I did go to Kai Kaikiki and they

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<v Speaker 1>were very much like, oh, thank you for coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>Please leave. They were like not wanting to address this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get paid out at all? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I did not get paid out. But it did open

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of doors, like you know, doors opening. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. Murkami blew the doors off the hinges

0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>for me, you know, Mr Kami and this whole situation

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<v Speaker 1>got the attention because it was international art news of

0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a collector out here. Galleries out here, museums out here,

0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.600
<v Speaker 1>an institutions started to taking notice of this kid who

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<v Speaker 1>did something great. Murkami publicly called me at a at

0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.000
<v Speaker 1>an event. Ah, this is David Tamago, most honest man

0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.960
<v Speaker 1>in America and like called everyone to stand up in

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<v Speaker 1>give me a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to buy it, to sell that shit,

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely no, But what would have been worth.

0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, over seven figures or something now, but six

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<v Speaker 1>figures back then?

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, love it.

0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Art world is whatever you can get, I know, so

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<v Speaker 1>seven is what I'm calling. But it's really up there.

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And to get back to your question about when I

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<v Speaker 1>started really being out here, Jesus twenty seventeen Gagosian Gallery.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was his show in March, maybe in

0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, but I'd already been doing my jewelry more

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<v Speaker 1>and more. MURKAMMI had his big solo show that they

0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>always do around the Oscars Gagosian and Mr Kami sees

0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.440
<v Speaker 1>me and he just blined it for me, grabbed me

0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.560
<v Speaker 1>out of the crowd and he's like, oh, David, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you mister Tomago soh and blah blah blah, so

0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>good to see you, glad, glad, thank you here. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, mind you, this has been years I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's an impression and he yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulls me over and introduces me and says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>for real, Ben Baller, this is David Tomargo, best jeweler

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<v Speaker 1>in America. And I'm like, uh what and Baller and

0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.680
<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, your Godzilla ring was amazing this and that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd shown him a piece back in twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>that I made like in twenty ten, so I'd been

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<v Speaker 1>doing jewelry all the time, and he was telling me

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<v Speaker 1>all those times, stop curating, stop working in art, don't

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<v Speaker 1>work in film. Do your jewelry. That's what you're really

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about. That's what you're great because.

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<v Speaker 2>You did do everything out here in La. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>like wanting to do film all of it.

0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:32.880
<v Speaker 1>People like me, we are just resourceful that Miami hustle,

0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.040
<v Speaker 1>were like always figuring out how to get things done.

0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're let's be clear, you're not to knock

0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:44.600
<v Speaker 2>the wonderful people Miami. Your hustle is not necessarily some

0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.840
<v Speaker 2>people Miami a little less, a little less hustle. Yeah. Yeah,

0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.200
<v Speaker 2>there's some people that I kind of would like to

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<v Speaker 2>push a little harder.

0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, Hey, there's definitely a thing called Cuban time.

0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm well aware of Cuban I've lived on

0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Cuban time. I've been to a Miami Heat game where

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<v Speaker 2>there's no one at the basketball until the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the second quarter. Do you believe in ghosts?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, Aligator Jesus believes in ghosts.

0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.400
<v Speaker 1>You know. I went to the Quad Cities and I

0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.520
<v Speaker 1>had like close encounters with ghosts and stuff. And if

0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it weren't for like those kind of situations, I was

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<v Speaker 1>put in there. Like I'm a scientific brain kind of guy.

0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't explain those things.

0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Is a drug related at all? Not at all.

0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sober as hell. You know, I've never been a

0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.960
<v Speaker 1>drug you never, not even casually.

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<v Speaker 2>What about hallucinogenics, natural.

0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Like a mushroom? Sure, like microdose seems very common right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But like I was at Bernie Man a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and I wanted to do a point five

0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 1>gram and somebody's like, oh, here, take this chocolate. It's

0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>half a gram.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't trust their math.

0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And then of course it's oh my bad, that's five

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:53.320
<v Speaker 1>grams and you know I was floating. Now's the harshest,

0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>craziest drug trip I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 2>And is that the story where you ended up having

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<v Speaker 2>to take off?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that is that story. You heard that?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Just go on, who calls that needs an emergency grill

0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:10.400
<v Speaker 2>while you're on five grams of mushroom?

0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.520
<v Speaker 1>She's the only one in the world that I would

0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 1>say I would allow to have a grills emergency. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's Madonna, okay, and she needed me in New York

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:21.080
<v Speaker 1>like tomorrow. So then that's the situation where I say,

0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.800
<v Speaker 1>I just laugh because I'm at the center of burning

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<v Speaker 1>Man itself. I'm at the Man when I got the

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>wild service. It just came okay into my phone, and

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, am I hallucinating this? Her executive assistant says,

0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Madonna needs me in New York tomorrow? Well, you can

0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.280
<v Speaker 1>have me if you get me from here. And I

0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just took a selfie at the Man, huh, And she

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, So you took a private jet to New York,

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<v Speaker 2>a helicopter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was all that shit. Like, you know, Bernie

0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Man has everything you need. If you need it, it's there.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.320
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you need to get off the playa,

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a helicopter. They'll take you to Reno, Reno, you

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 1>can catch a PJ from there. I went to La,

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed my tools, got a red eye to New York.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the most efficient thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I supposed to say? PJ?

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's God damn it.

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.200
<v Speaker 2>That sounds better. That sounds better.

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:07.840
<v Speaker 1>You get to a level and you just start taking

0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.440
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable means of travel.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. I just like that. I just like the

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 2>term PJ. I just never said PJTE start saying PJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, do you call it soda not pop?

0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:19.920
<v Speaker 1>You grew up in the South.

0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I think I call it soda.

0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that. It just depends on where you

0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:23.679
<v Speaker 1>grew up.

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Where you grew up. If you call a private jet

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<v Speaker 2>of PG, all right, you grew up with it. I

0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.600
<v Speaker 2>did not grow up with it. Was grills always going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a specialty or.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. It was definitely not something I

0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.200
<v Speaker 1>was interested in doing because I had made grills in Miami,

0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 1>but grills back then were very much street culture.

0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.639
<v Speaker 2>And street cultures doesn't pay the bills.

0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Does not and and those kind of clientele definitely they

0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 1>bring things from the street, that attitude, that swagger, and

0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:56.200
<v Speaker 1>then that aggressiveness and threatening attitude when it comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always fun.

0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.479
<v Speaker 1>And there's a very competitive nature Miami for grills. Like

0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.080
<v Speaker 1>people are always saying I can do it cheaper. But

0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like that cheaper person, they're either cheating the carrot, which

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>is like if you're paying for fourteen carrot, they're giving

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>like eleven carrot or twelve carrot. Ok, and they're putting

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.480
<v Speaker 1>more alloy, so you're not getting exactly what you're paying for. Yeah,

0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of course you're getting it cheaper. They're not honest businessmen

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<v Speaker 1>like me. Everything that I do, I can put my

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.200
<v Speaker 1>name on it because I'm casting it myself. I put

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the actual diamonds. But I hear about New York jewelers

0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and other places where these big rappers. In fact, there's

0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.920
<v Speaker 1>a very famous rapper here who his entourage gave me

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.359
<v Speaker 1>a broken piece of jewelry to a say which has

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>melted down the gold extracted diamonds and they want to

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>make something else with it. And they had paid a

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:46.719
<v Speaker 1>substantial amount of money, six figures for this necklace, and

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it was in pieces. And it turns out once we

0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.240
<v Speaker 1>sayed it, it was like nine carrots, not fourteen. And

0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the diamonds. I actually gave him the diamonds to look

0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.520
<v Speaker 1>at the diamonds and he was like, nah, these are vvs.

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.600
<v Speaker 1>It's which stands for very very slight inclusions, which you

0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 1>should not have any perceptible things inside the diamond in

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 1>perfections in it. And I gave him one of the

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>diamonds to look at with the loop and he's like, well,

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 1>it's all that stuff inside the diamond. I'm like, those

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 1>are inclusions. These are I these are included diamonds. These

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.400
<v Speaker 1>are trash. Like this famous jeweler that he spent all

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.680
<v Speaker 1>this money getting this jewelry piece from.

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:23.800
<v Speaker 2>May accuse you of line or no.

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>No, because I literally made sure that he was with

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:27.360
<v Speaker 1>me throughout the process.

0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I like to you almost do that now, you can't

0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 2>like take stuff away from me.

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>No, no, No, There's a lot of stuff like that.

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.639
<v Speaker 1>You hear about, like, oh, if you take something to

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>get resize, make sure they do it in front of

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:37.639
<v Speaker 1>you and stuff.

0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.879
<v Speaker 2>But I don't. I never do it. My wife's ring them.

0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>I was like, just go clean it. Yeah, I don't

0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.760
<v Speaker 2>wonder what are you gonna do? Are you gonna swap it?

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean that's a definite thing in jury.

0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>So grills weren't really my thing because the clientele are

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 1>very thuggish back in Miami, and it wasn't until I

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:52.400
<v Speaker 1>got here in.

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.439
<v Speaker 2>La Or we have a classier thug.

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:55.240
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I was very.

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Ingrained in the in the rave community and the after hours.

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you go to raves to Yeah? But you didn't.

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 2>You were never like into ecstasy or anything.

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>I was always known as like, oh, alligator's there, but

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he's partying drug free And people will always say, I

0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you do it, and they're like jaw

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.120
<v Speaker 1>jacking from cocaine and whatever else they're doing. And I've

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 1>never I have never done cocaine in my life. Ever,

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.879
<v Speaker 1>that's all going to change right now. I've seen how

0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>it destroys people's lives.

0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 2>All right, So you're cleaning, you're straight, and you're in.

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>But the rave world was what kind.

0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Of absolutely and that community that plur peace, love, unity

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and respect. That principle in the rave community is definitely

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a really cool concept in any community. It mirrors that

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<v Speaker 1>of the Juggler community, which is what I really came from.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I forgot all about it. You could you

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>forget one of the one of the first things you

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<v Speaker 2>did was you did you create their website? What did

0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you was making websites for insane clown possible?

0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for people that don't know what is woop woop?

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>A jugglo is a fan of and a loyal per

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<v Speaker 1>part of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they pay you in fago?

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>They paid me in something better, good clout.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get let's get back to I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to grills again because the pandemic, oddly enough, yeah, made

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<v Speaker 2>your business skyrocket.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see that article Flomp magazine wrote about me. No,

0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>it was called the Pandemic Hustle, and they documented how

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<v Speaker 1>I sat on my hands for about two weeks, and

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 1>then I was like, I can't handle not doing anything.

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I watched Tiger King and I'm like, that's it. I

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta get out of the house and do something with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I decided to finish up all the orders that

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<v Speaker 1>I had pending, and I started a drive up service

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>where people would drive up to my house. They'd crack

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<v Speaker 1>their window open, and I would be in full ppe gloves.

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I had extended gloves, I had a a painting suit

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<v Speaker 1>mask all the nine and I would take their impression

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<v Speaker 1>through the cracked car window and then take that impression,

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>drop it into a bag of bleach and tell them

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>drive off, vemo me and I'll make your grills and

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>you can come and pick it up the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>In a week. And of course, edd money started to

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<v Speaker 1>kick in and people started to get all those paychecks

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<v Speaker 1>coming in for unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh, that's so many people, so many people. When did

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.119
<v Speaker 2>you decide, Hey, this is too much. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>get this out of my house.

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 1>So I was making the I do everything in downtown

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Jury District, right, That's where I produce it

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and fabricate and everything. And I was so busy making

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff that I could stop. I had to stop doing

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it at the house. So I had people just driving

0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:49.479
<v Speaker 1>up to me in downtown. And it was when someone

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 1>tried to mug me, and literally I don't know if

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to mug me or it was just a

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>crazy guy with a knife walking up to me while

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<v Speaker 1>I was making an impression with someone from a car.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Someone screamed alligator to look out, and there was a

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.399
<v Speaker 1>guy maybe three steps behind me, creeping up behind me

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>with a knife, and you know, I just ducked and

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>ran and the guys ran after him, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>coming at me, probably to rob me, and I was like,

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, late.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have anything on you?

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>At the time, I had jewelry on me. I just

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 1>come downstairs and I had my backpack with me. And

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.959
<v Speaker 1>this is like around the times of the riots. So

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's an air of like rebellion in LA.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 2>And people in the downtown district, especially the jewelry district,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 2>people are known to not flaunt anything that they know.

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.159
<v Speaker 2>The richest person down there is walking around with just

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<v Speaker 2>a paper bag.

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<v Speaker 1>A paper bag and a black T shirt, no chain on.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 1>You turn around, you see somebody with a knife. You're like,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:50.640
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, I got to get off the street. I'm

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>no longer street level. That same day, got a little studio.

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It was probably about twice the size of this little

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>space of a brag. It was bigger, no, but it

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>was very small. It was just like a small space

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>during COVID. I didn't need a big operation, and I

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I gotta get off you yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where are you at now with people that are

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>helping you.

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I've got my one production manager, huh, and he runs

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>point eight things. Takes things from point A to B.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I'll do the wax up, it goes to casting.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Casting is a totally separate operation. My friend's company, they're efficient.

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>If I get it to them by two pm, it's

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>ready the next day. They have options. If I get

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>it to them by one pm, it can be ready

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>at seven pm.

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Back then, you were making a grill, You'd make an impression,

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>you'd make the grill, and they'd get it the next week.

0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's a very fast turnaround compared to normal grills

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>that people get custom made take three months. Three months.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And now where are you at? It's same day, same day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're operating like it will charge you a little

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 1>bit more because it is a stress. You know, we've

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 1>got to like everything has to flow flawlessly and accurately.

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I can't even get the same day dry cleaning. Is

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a grill bad for your teeth?

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 1>No, not at all.

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean you got to do Dennis recommend it if.

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>People wear retainers.

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>The same problems with the retainers. You gotta clean it

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>every day. If you drink something, you got to rent

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you sleep in it?

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Do you do you wear a grill every day your

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 2>life when you're working or no?

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is my everyday. Look like I didn't get

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>dressed up for this or anything. I'm just like, thanks,

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna cruise through the day looking like that.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh. What about going through TSA.

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a pain and ass because the dental algine is

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like a powder, so they always want to test it. Lately,

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.679
<v Speaker 1>because I travel so much and I keep going to

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the same cities, the TSA know who

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I am, so it's pretty cool. Now, like I get

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>spotted or you know with why I start working with

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Madonna going through TSA, New York. Oh, you're a Madonna's jeweler,

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's really cool. I get spotted with that because

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>she was on the Falon Show just like talking about

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>her grills.

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 2>And I mean, yeah, I don't I'm I don't know

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>what's going on with her.

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Donna's awesome, man, I mean, yes, the concept Now she's

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>got four decades of yeah, yeah, being a real pop icon.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's very few pop stars that are like

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Madonna level, Michael Jackson level, like and she she Michael Jackson.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Now we got a Taylor Swift Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>Even is Taylor going to ever rock a grill? You know?

0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I see her people watching my stories. It's never the

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>actual artist that reaches out first. It's always the people

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>on the peripheral.

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 2>When they're that big, do they want shit for free?

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>There are people like that.

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>But what's a grill called? What's a bottom end grill cost?

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>And what's the cadillac of all grills called? What's my rain?

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I just made a grill. We finished it last week.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>It was two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that both top and bottom?

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Is it always top and bottom?

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what looks best like? Having that symmetry is always something.

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And if you get like a single tooth over here,

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>you should get another tooth over here because your bite,

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>imagine you do have a layer of metal a little tooth.

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>So if your bite, I'm always about making sure that

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>your bite is comfortable. I don't want your jaw to

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>be like all we Yeah, So you have the grill

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>makers that there you look like robot teeth because they're

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>all very straight. You see that as well with like veneers.

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>When they're done poorly, it just looks.

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Like bad veneers. It's hard to look at people.

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to look at them, And same with the

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>bad grills. So I'm always about following your natural.

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>You scratching the inside of your lips with them?

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>No, no, never. There are certain textures that people want,

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>like diamond dust. It's very low cost, sparkly finished, but

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 1>it feels like sandpaper. We don't do that because we

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.959
<v Speaker 1>tell people it cuts your lip up.

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 2>What percentage ballpark it for me? Your your clientele is

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>white getting grills.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Of Caucasian people.

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Hm? Uh maybe fifty Caucasian grills. Yeah, it's becoming more mainstream.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's like mainstream. I will I do I

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>We did do this number. We looked at all of

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>our orders from twenty to twenty three, and we realize

0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>that on average, our customers are women over thirty five.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>That's the average. Yeah, huh what about jacked up teeth?

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you ever go like, oh, this is that we

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 2>can't we can't deal with this.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I had someone recently came in and he wanted a

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>top six, but he only had three teeth they could

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>hang on to.

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I was then making an additional three teeth that were

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>false and that that's something that we can easily do

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>for people, which is a great feeling when people are

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>telling me, like, yeah, I never smile anymore because I'm

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>missing some teeth for whatever reason. People can miss teeth

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for any number of things. I've got two implants, yeah

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>in the back, and I'm sure it took like a

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>couple months for the implant that in your mouth. Absolutely

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>not the way, so imagine in the interim. We offer

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>this for people because it's affordable enough, like two hundred

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>dollars a tooth in gold. You can have this bridge

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>in gold that makes it look like you're not missing anything.

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Can you eat with grills in your mouth?

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't recommend it, you could, uh huh. I mean

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it's easier when you have a full grill then if

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you have just a couple cap here and there, and

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>if you have any fangs like that makes it a

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 1>little different. It's the most popular thing for sure for

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>us because a lot of people in the subculture communities

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and the nightlife, they they like that darkness to it,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that that you know, vampires are always popular.

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>What percentage of your business is grills versus other jewelry,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I'd say.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Fifty percent because we're doing a lot more like engagement

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>rings and big chains and a lot of like custom

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>jewelry for people these days.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Fake diamonds versus real diamonds or whatever versus created. What's this,

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll say this.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Lebron James has publicly said he wears c z. Everything

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that he wears. All that jewelry is cubics or Conian,

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>which is like very much worthless. It's like, okay, ten

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>cents for thousands of stones. But the work, but the

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>craftsmanship that it isn't every free. It isn't free. There

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>he's paying all in the labor. It doesn't matter whether

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you're putting diamonds lab diamonds or natural diamonds.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Lab diamonds, that's the word I was looking for. Lab

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>diamonds are still very expensive. Still no, not that they're not.

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Pennies, not pennies for sure, But there's different qualities and

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>different grades of lab diamonds. You can get moist nite,

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>which is on the lower spectrum. Then there's two different

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 1>kinds of lab diamonds that are named after the process

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of how they're made, and then there's natural diamonds.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>And that's where you get to the conflict diamonds.

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you don't find that anymore. No, no

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>one's I mean unless you're I mean, are you buying

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>jewelry from a back alley?

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, but I mean there's got to be.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 2>There's only so many diamonds in the world, right.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.719
<v Speaker 1>What happens these days people have mixed parcels where like

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 1>if you're buying in bulk, like ten thousand one millimeter stones,

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>which like in my grills, I have like little tiny

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 1>one millimeter diamonds, right, they're all around the opals. If

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're buying ten thousand, and it's a thousand dollars per

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>thousand of them, So it's ten thousand dollars for this bag.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And the person I'm buying from, if it's not some valued,

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 1>trusted person with a great reputation, and I'm trying to

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>just find the cheapest deal out there, I'm probably going

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to find somebody who's going to sell it to me

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for seven thousand dollars or six thousand dollars. And what

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they've done is they've taken out four thousand of the

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>natural diamonds, or just fifty percent is natural and then

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent is lab diamond and they've kind of mixed

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>parcels because to the naked eye, unless you're starting to

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>put those diamonds into a spectrometer to read the light

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>passing through it and everything, and that's a whole process

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>all in itself. It can't be checked once it's in

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the jewelry.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>It's just like a drug dealer. Yeah, give them us

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>dirty drum.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, it's like cocaine. I guess if you cut

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>it with stuff that looks a similar way. You see

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that in the movies where they're in labs cutting stuff.

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've seen it in person. I mean, are you

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>doing mostly lab diamonds?

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Or I always tell everybody, tell me your budget. I

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.239
<v Speaker 1>don't have any prices, tell me your budget, and then

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>we'll design something towards your budget because some people they

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>only have five hundred bucks. And then especially I guess

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>what has made me most popular with artistic clients and

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>artists that are producing content and producing like either even

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>if it's tiktoks, or if it's artists that are making

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>music videos and album covers and performing and everything. I

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>want them to not feel like, oh man, I can't

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>afford that Johnny Dang two hundred thousand dollars chain. What

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't know is like, all right, that Johnny Dang

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars chain, one hundred thousand dollars goes

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to Johnny Dang. That leaves one hundred thousand for the

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>materials and the labor costs. Well, he's getting that made

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>like very cheaply with either his in house labor or

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>overseas with even cheaper labor. So that might be a

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars materials and labor chain. One hundred and

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand dollars of.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That thing is like, yeah, cut that middleman out.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>You got to cut that middleman out, or I just

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>tell them, like, you know, you could get a fifty

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars chain, which is very easily attainable from someone

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>like me. And you know, if it's if you don't

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>have the two hundred thousand dollars and the Johnny Dang

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>stamp of like I got it from Johnny Dang, which

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 1>says a lot in the community of rap. But you

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>want to have that, look, you can get one made

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>in silver with cz that looks just as good. And

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>mind you, if people like the Kardashians are no longer

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:21.200
<v Speaker 1>really wearing fancy jewelry because of what happened to Kim

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>in Paris, where they broke in and were robbing her

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of Oliver jewelry, celebrities are more and more switching to

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>lab diamonds or even silver and ceaz.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 2>You're still gonna get robbed, whether they tell you it's

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 2>fake or not. You just got at that part.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I love Bad Baby, where she was on record saying

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the day someone tries to steal

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>something from me. I'm just gonna give it to them.

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Let the stupid asses like take it and it's not

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>worth anything.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Chad Johnson, a pro football player, o chosinko he was.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>He always bragged about never buying real diamonds.

0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It's you can spend your money on better investments than that.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only thing that has a resale value

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 1>is the natural diamonds. The labs don't. No one wants

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to pay.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh they don't resell interesting Your company, your office space?

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 2>Kind of insurance do you have to pay?

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting even new assurance now because it's like, is

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>it crazy? No, it's not horrible.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the most diamonds you've ever had in your.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't keep a lot of inventory, if any in

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the studio.

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>What about you ever let people borrow jewelry?

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, go was over my head. But a

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine came over and yesterday it was like, hey,

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>so and so rapper and so so rapper and I'm like, oh,

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>this rapper from Wu Tang and that one needs some

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>change here. Just take this. They're brass and glass. Uh huh.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know, Bad Bunny, Megan, the Stallion, Lil nas X,

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>all these people, they're not always buying this stuff. They're

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 1>renting it or they're borrowing it from jewelers. And there's

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>plenty of stuff being rented from Beverly Hills. But you know,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll see the same design over and over and over again.

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>When we make low cost rentable stuff. It has really

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 1>cool design involved in it, and it looks good and

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>it makes the artists feel like, oh, I'm getting something

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 1>unique because it came from alligator Jesus. And they know

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that if it's something that's really unique and really custom,

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just going to loan it out to a

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people. I don't want Ice Spice to borrow

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the same chain that Doja Cat or you know, those

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>two women should have their own identity and they shouldn't

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>be wearing the same thing publicly.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you think you'd ever become mainstream enough that you

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 2>would have your own line that like at Christmas? Like

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the Zales that the Alligator Jesus' is new blank forever

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 2>pennant grill necklace at Zales. Every kiss begins with Alligator

0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Jesus grills at Kay, these are things. Do you strive

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>for that type of mainstream success?

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Nah?

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>No, Now if it's not fun, I'm not going to

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>do it. And I love Look we're here for a

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>very short time, and I want it to be.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Well you because you're on the street with diamonds, people

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 2>are coming at you with fucking Yeah.

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to have fun doing this, and sure maybe

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>i'll I don't have kids, but I'll leave like a

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>legacy to my kids, and who cares after I'm gone

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>what they do with my my my legacy. Yeah, I

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>at least had fun doing it, But it's very much

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 1>all about me interacting with people. And I still love

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>making art alligator.

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>The alligator has in your logos two heads. Where'd you

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>come up? What's the significance behind that?

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 1>There are decisions in your life every day that we

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>make that could lead you in one direction or another,

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and the having the two heads about it, it's like

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>at least the acknowledgment or the awareness of that every

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 1>decision you make in your life could lead you down

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>a path.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, anybody that's on my show, I always give them

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 2>something from my house that I don't want anymore. This

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you this from my house. But I it's

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>not that I don't want it anymore. My wife's aunt,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Travis Blanton. She is an artist in veera Oh cool,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>does ceramics, So you guess give them a wine stopper.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 1>That is fresh as hell. You know, I should have

0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>named my company million dollars and people will give me

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars.

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm getting instead. I like this, though, now

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 2>she has to send me another one. How big is

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 2>your community? How many people are actually making grills for

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>this specific clientele?

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>It's worldwide?

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 2>There, I understood, but I mean, but is there is

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 2>there hundreds of jewelers or is there less yee.

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.879
<v Speaker 1>There's about one hundred of it top at the top.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not competitive.

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>There is. There's definitely people that feel like it's competitive

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>and their loss because I make a much better friend

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>than a competitor, because I mean, first of all, you're

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>only competing with yourself in what you do.

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Clip rings? You ever make one of those?

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>We have?

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Do I need? Do I need to get an impression?

0:38:54.280 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Or can you just ballpark it?

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Speaking about clip impressions, I brought everything to make your

0:38:58.920 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>dental impressions.

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh god? But does this Is this the same type

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 2>of impression that you do with the dentist when you

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>when you're like get fitted for something, because those things

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 2>make me gag.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.439
<v Speaker 1>You've only done it in the US because I don't

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>use the US stuff. In fact, the US stuff is

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>not even legal in the EU because of all the

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>chemicals and weird shit.

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>They will pull out a filling that make chests.

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>No, not this stuff. Okay, So I import my dental

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>augenate from Denmark. It's color changing, so it's not like

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 1>in your mouth for like twenty minutes or whatever.

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 2>How long is it in my mouth?

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>For thirty seconds to forty five seconds? It's really quick,

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's the most accurate impression.

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm paying for my grill. No you're not, Yeah, I am.

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I support the artist. Sorry, that's cool, you lungs. It's cheap.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I give me whatever you want.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you my budget, my budget for

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.920
<v Speaker 2>my grill. What's that? Three? Three hundred thousand is my budget?

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.440
<v Speaker 1>You'd break them. You know, it's wild because there's some

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>jewelers that like throw these weird numbers out there. I'm like,

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>how did hell do you get that number? I told

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you before about the Johnny Dang where it's like one

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand goes to the artists. Like you know, I

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>just did a project for Adidas and my take home Congratulate,

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>thank you, and it was like a quarter million project,

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, oh shit, I won't shouldn't say this,

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 1>but like you know my take home.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I like telling people what things cost.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I just put all the money into making the thing

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you took it off. I put everything into it. I

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I'd rather this thing to be like

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.439
<v Speaker 1>really cool and awesome and give this as a gift

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to the city of la for people to see this thing,

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever, it's Adidas, Like, my name attached

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to Adidas is a cool things, a big deal. It's

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.160
<v Speaker 1>a big deal and that'll that'll turn into things later

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.279
<v Speaker 1>or maybe I'll do a partnership with them later. But

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's just for me more important to make the art.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, this will be the best way in the

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 2>world to like have me killed. You're like, you're like, oh, yeah,

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I just put this in your mouth and then all

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just done, foaming mouth and it's.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Just like you can't travel with that, though, can you? Yeah?

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 2>They don't. That's the stuff though that they it's.

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Earth, so it's a nert so they I mean people

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>travel with protein powder two.

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>So right, But anytime you have your own cans that

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>don't have labels on it, that sends off some flags

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>over there at TSA. Do I need to sign my

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>name to this so that you remember whose mouth it is?

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I have an order for him.

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll fill out it. Oh god, damn it, you got

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>an order for him. Look at this. This thing is

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>official as fuck. How many grills a day are you

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 2>doing now? At least five every day of your life? Yeah,

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 2>in somebody's mouth.

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, my assistant is doing for me now, because

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like right now while I'm here. We had some appointments,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we changed the time, so I had some

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>appointments I had already arranged, so I was like, oh whatever,

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.520
<v Speaker 1>still come my My assistant's able.

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 2>To get the look at all these up charges.

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>It looks like you get your tires rotated.

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Cutout. Do I want fangs? No? I do not want fangs.

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna let you go willy nill and do

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Would you like a top or bottom grill?

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 2>I think a top top teeth? Yeah, yeah, I mean

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I gag. Just if I hold a pen in my.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Mouth, you'll be fine, So pull your lip. Uh, all right,

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Don Can you see how it's pink. It's

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>color changing, so as soon as it's as white as

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the spatula, it'll be ready.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>M h mm hmmm.

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 1>For any drool you might have, that's great.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that slows it down is if it's

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>too cold. And it is so freaking cold in here,

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 1>But care about that, say, ah ah mm hmn't so bad,

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 1>No it wasn't you know? There's a dentist here in

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>la Connolly, Thomas Connolly, and he's in Beverly Hills and

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>he does the He's an actual dentist, so he'll remove

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>teeth and put like new teeth. He did post Malons

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 1>where he has magnets implanted into the platinum teeth so

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that the grills will magnetically hold on.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool. He started with the baby where he

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<v Speaker 1>put magnets in the back teeth so the grills just

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<v Speaker 1>go thunk and hold on. They don't cause any If ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Posts gets older, and if his kid does good in school,

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<v Speaker 2>he could take his report card and stick it to it.

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<v Speaker 1>He could do that now, man Posty. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing him at the gove Ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gove ball. Yeah, good got Alligator, jeez, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just you're you're doing all the cool shit. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with all the cool people. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>being on the show, and thank you for making my

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<v Speaker 2>first and last grill.

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<v Speaker 1>I got your impressions. Whenever you need another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, so I threw that one time. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great, pusha. I want to thank Alligator Jesus hooking

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<v Speaker 2>me up. I look different, right, you like that? Uh,

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 2>my first grill. What do you think you look different?

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<v Speaker 2>Got yourself a little top pony, little man bun looking

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<v Speaker 2>all Jason Momoa up in this motherfucker. Yeah, look at us.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, I got a little more street

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<v Speaker 2>cred mm killing it man killing it? Hey, Shaul, I

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>tell them what happened there. Day, guys, another great story, Carl,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to hear it or no, we do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. My son and a friend over, they

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<v Speaker 2>were playing in the pool. I was swimming with them.

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<v Speaker 2>They were both physically attacking me. Then my wife she's like, ah,

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>your daughter wants to get in. So you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're fighting off two five year olds in a pool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nothing better than having to hold a one year

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<v Speaker 2>old the whole time. So that's what I'm doing anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that part of the story doesn't matter. Then we take

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<v Speaker 2>my one year old is done, she wants out, take

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<v Speaker 2>her out, take her swim diaper off. She's walking around.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife's going to get a diaper, and then she

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<v Speaker 2>poops right in the living room. The doors are open

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<v Speaker 2>up to the pool area. She poops in the living

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<v Speaker 2>room on the rug, and they're like two very dark

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<v Speaker 2>very dry, she's not getting enough water. I guess round.

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<v Speaker 2>They coming out really round, like just slightly smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball, bigger than a golf ball. Okay, there's two

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:50.720
<v Speaker 2>of them. Boom boom, gonna be a very easy pickup

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<v Speaker 2>and clean. My wife immediately steps in one barefoot steps in,

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>It goes between her toes. She starts freaking out. Then

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.959
<v Speaker 2>she's like walking on her heel to go get something

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<v Speaker 2>to pick it up. I go, don't go pick it up,

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<v Speaker 2>go clean your foot off. Clean your foot off first,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll pick up these these two balls. All right. Well,

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>then she goes and cleans her foot. Then she comes

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<v Speaker 2>back and she goes, guys, bad news. There's only one left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got anything to say for yourself? You ate another nugget?

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<v Speaker 2>Just coprophasiat it just boom gone. Just ran in said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>here's here's an unattended turd. I'll take that. Why'd you

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>eat it? I had to brush your teeth. Meanwhile, with

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 2>my son's friend and his mom are just watching this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, like what is happening in your house? And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is what we do. We step in

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<v Speaker 2>poop dogs eat it. We all laugh at each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Good times. All right, thanks for watching the Goat? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this the season? Finality is available now? Good job everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great show. I can't wait for a Emmy season.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we'll get nominated?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think we'll win? Probably? Right? Those things are

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:24.640
<v Speaker 2>all political and we've got everything on our show. We've

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>got all the races, the sexes. It's a slam dunk.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna win. Boys wear pink. Check out our clothing

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<v Speaker 2>line for toddlers. Also got some tour dates coming up Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Second show added in Honolulu. Go ahead and come to

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 2>that show. That'll be fun. And what else. One of

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 2>my son's bedtime stories reminder if you're just listening to

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 2>his nonsense. If you're watching on YouTube, it is subtitled

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<v Speaker 2>see you next week.

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<v Speaker 3>Once upon the time theyd the riddle lions, all they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do it whoa but Anie time they would

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<v Speaker 3>they sound like the freak freak Eddie time they would did.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to mount, so they ate a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>won And then they tried to woo woa a louder

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 3>a lion and they twigged it so fine, like feet

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<v Speaker 3>feet freak. So they ate more Liians, more Daddy wires,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they and then they tried to rule, and

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<v Speaker 3>then time too, and they were so happy the end