1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: You can even get everyone and welcome. It is Texans 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: All Access here from Orlando, Florida. The NFL Annual Meeting. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: That's what it's called, folks, the NFL Annual Meeting, not 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: the owners meetings. It's the annual Meeting. Not to get 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: too technical, but that's just the way it is. Mark 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Vandermer with you. Great to have you listening tonight. We've 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: got a very special show for you. And before I 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: set up tonight, let me just tell you a couple 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: of things about tomorrow night. Bill O'Brien is going to 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: meet with the media. Tomorrow morning, they have a huge 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: breakfast here. I won't tell you what's for breakfast, but 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I will tell you the coaches of all thirty two 13 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: teams are going to be here. Allegedly they're gonna be here. 14 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: O'Brian will certainly be here. But I'm just saying allegedly 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: because I was talking to some of my friends who 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: covered the Patriots and they won't. They were not so 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: sure about Bill Belichick being here for that coach's breakfast tomorrow. 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: But they do all thirty two teams at once, and 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien will be speaking with the media. That'll be 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 1: at around six thirty Central. We'll get some tweets out 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: and things like that out for you as he speaks, 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: and we'll have I think the bulk of that tomorrow 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: night on the program. I mean, I'm gonna cut that 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: up for you. Get it ready so you can hear 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: what the coach has to say about the Texans. You know, 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: the general is going to be sitting at the table 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: asking plenty of questions as Mike Vrabel walks by here, 28 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: current Tennessee Titan's head coach, former Texans defensive coordinator. And 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: it'll be fun tomorrow. Mike Vrabel will have a table 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow and I'd like to go visit him, but I 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: kind of want to get locked into what coach O'Brien 32 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: is saying about the Texans. Also on tomorrow night's program, 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: we will have Brian Gaine, General manager of your Texans, 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: so we'll hear what he has to say here at 35 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: the owner's meetings following the wave of free agency signings, 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Tyrann Matthew, the rest of it, everybody, Now, a couple 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: of things. I'll get it to this more as the 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: program progresses, and a little bit more tomorrow and night 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: and certainly a lot more on Thursday when I'm hosting 40 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: with John McClain, and maybe something with Johnny on Wednesday 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: as well. John Harris, you remember him, right, I know 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: he usually anchors Mondays. But since I'm here in Orlando 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: with the whole mish bucha that's kind of a Yiddish 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: word for family, the whole NFL Amiley, I thought I'd 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of take over the program and do it from 46 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: here tonight. Now I get to do a lot of 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: them behind the scenes stuff that a lot of the 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: media doesn't get to do. In fact, all the media 49 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: unless you're a club executive, and well, club executives get 50 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to do this. So that's it. I mean, it has 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: nothing to do with media. I think I was the 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: only NFL play by play guy in the room last 53 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: night and this morning when the league went through its 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: sort of semi state of the Union address for league executives. 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: Now that's not exactly a media event. I can't tweet 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: or periscope or snap face, as Bill O'Brien would say, 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: but I can't tell you this. It's really interesting to 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: be part of those things because they do talk about 59 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the state of the league, and I've been to six 60 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: of these now. It's not like the general has been 61 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: to the forty five of them. Maybe not that many, 62 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: but he's been to a whole lot of them. But 63 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: I've been to six of these now, and I can 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: tell you I've wrote about this on Houston Texans dot Com. 65 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's up right now, but it 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: should be very soon if it's not already. And the 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: focus on digital media social media. Of course, players safety 68 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: is a huge issue and will continue to be. They 69 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: continue to work on that. But talking about various topics 70 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: like that is very important to these owners executives. It's 71 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: not just owners, it's executives, it's coaches, it's general managers. 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Everybody's very concerned and always about the expansion, the future, 73 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: the improvement of the game of professional football. And those 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: are among the topics that we'll be hitting on tonight. 75 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: And let's get to our first guest right now. By 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: the way, old Buddy Dave's Angaro used to work for 77 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Houston. Really that's what it would be called 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: today with CSN Houston. He's in Philly now. We'll talk 79 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: to him on the program. My buddy, Jeff Joniac Voice 80 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears. He's on tonight as well. Let's 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: start out though with You've seen him a lot, a 82 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: national media guy series x M NFL Radio, works for 83 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo News as well, used to work with the 84 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns media set, Vic Carucci. You see him on 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: all those Top ten shows and everything. He's a Bill's expert. 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: He's an NFL expert. But I sat down with him 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: earlier and we started off talking about the catch rule. 88 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: He tweeted out today that with the new wording of 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: the catch rule, the Kelvin Benjamin reception in the Patriots 90 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: game at New England Bills Patriots at New England would 91 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: have been a catch. It was ruled incomplete after it 92 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: went to New York. We started off there. Yeah, and 93 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: it's become a very interesting story in Buffalo because on 94 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: December twenty fourth, it seemed like everyone in the entire 95 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: world knew that Calvin Benjamin had a touchdown except Al 96 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: Riveron the head of officiating, who in New York made 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: the decision. After the officials at Gillette Stadium ruled touchdown, 98 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: put the arms up. He says it's not a touchdown 99 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: and explains that his foot didn't make contact with the 100 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: end zone while he was in control of the ball. 101 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: All this nonsense that has been word removed in the 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: rewriting of that catch rule. Now, so today when or 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: on Monday, when Al Riveron is meeting with reporters and 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: specifically asked as the Calvin Benjamin a touchdown catch own, 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown, and he said it so affirmatively. And 106 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: it did no good because, you know, taking that touchdown away, 107 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it would have changed the outcome of 108 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the game. The Bills lost a pretty lopsided it was 109 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: thirty seven sixteen that score, but it was still very 110 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: much in doubt at that point. They would have had 111 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: the lead going in a halftime. It would have been 112 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: a seventeen thirteen Buffalo League. Now, the players, I will 113 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: tell you this, players were absolutely dispirited and they were angry. 114 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never I'm not sure in all my 115 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: years of covering football that I've had as many players 116 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: openly criticize an officiating decision as those players did. They 117 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: were angry. They felt that the league had it in 118 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: for him, and that was their focus after the game, 119 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: rather than, uh, you know what players tend to do. 120 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I think what coaches prefer players do, and that is, 121 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, point the finger at yourself if I lose, 122 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: don't don't blame anybody else, and certainly don't be so 123 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: vocal criticizing officiating. Well they didn't. It wasn't the officials 124 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: on scene that they were upset set with, but they 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: were upset with the league anyway. This is smart. I 126 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: think that the tweaking and the lawyering I call it 127 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: of rules, where there's so much adjusting and moving, the 128 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: leading of words and adding of more words. I think 129 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: the language just got so complicated for that particular play, 130 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: catch or no catch, that it became a real turn off. 131 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things I've heard this 132 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: league with fans, and fortunately for the league's sake, they've 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: they've come come around to seeing it differently. It was 134 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: something they could fix, so they did so. As a 135 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: person who covers the bells and you see the Patriots 136 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: twice a year, how much longer you think this goes on? Yeah? 137 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: So if we can figure out how long Tom Brady 138 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: is going to be a quarterback or Bill Belichick a 139 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: coach or both, Uh, that that's the key here. I 140 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: see it as um First of all, something that's not 141 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: going to end anytime soon. I think Tom Brady is 142 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: set to play at least three more years. It just 143 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: seems that way. The way he's kept himself in shape, 144 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: his desire, his hunger to play this game, his ability 145 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: to stay in one piece and upright, and a lot 146 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: of it is how he gets rid of the ball. 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: A lot of it is how he sees the rush 148 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: coming at him. I mean, you can defend yourself in 149 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: so many ways, and he does that. Um So I 150 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: think for the rest of But but I do think 151 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: mark the time is coming where Buffalo, the Jets, this 152 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: draft and how and what it might render in the 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: way of a quarterback and other help that teams are getting. 154 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Um I think I think you're getting closer, certainly the 155 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: clock ticking in New England on the end of the 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Brady slash Belichick era. But two, the fact that I 157 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: think a couple of teams like Buffalo, like the Jets, 158 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: could be moving up into the territory of competing with 159 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. When you see the Texans Vick Vick Carucci 160 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: joining US Buffalo News and serious x M NFL Radio, 161 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts you see Deshaun Watson. They're on 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: the Bills schedule this year. What do you think, Well, 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I see Deshaun Watson, and I see just a transformative talent, 164 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: somebody who was so exciting and so fun. I thought 165 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: one of the worst things that happened to the NFL 166 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen was Watson suffering that injury, was was 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: having his season end so abruptly. And I remember being 168 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: in the press box for a Thursday night game the 169 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Bills were playing the Jets, and before kickoff that news breaking, 170 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: and I was just in my own mind deflated about 171 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the season because I was excited for 172 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: what he would bring to the table and what he 173 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: had already brought, and he was a player. Frankly that 174 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people who follow the Bills, fans of 175 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: the Bills, and those of us who cover the Bills 176 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: talked about, you know, wasn't that shouldn't it shouldn't that 177 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: have been someone that Buffalo had a chance to get 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and should have gotten, and how different that would have been, 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: maybe made for the fortunes in Buffalo. But anyway, his 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: return to full health and the fact that he's been 181 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, he I think can now feel more ownership 182 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: of it being his team. Uh. And the trust that 183 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure Bill O'Brien and that coaching staff having him 184 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: in the in the in the chemistry that they're building 185 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: and have a chance to build once they get to, 186 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: of course work together. The rules of the off season 187 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: are what they are. I still think it's silly that 188 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: you got to have no contact until what April? But 189 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I think this guy is special. I think the team 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: it's going to show and in the results on the field. Uh. 191 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would tell you is Brian 192 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Gain as general manager I got I got to I 193 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: knew of him and knew him on a cursory basis 194 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: when he was in Miami, but he spent that year 195 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: in Buffalo in their front office, and uh, you you know, 196 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: there's something special about this guy. The knowledge that he has, 197 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: the competence that he has, the vision that he has. 198 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very good for this Texans team. 199 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: Vick Carucchi from the Buffalo News In serious x NFL 200 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Radio with us on Texans Radio, your gen will take 201 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: on where the Bills are headed in twenty eighteen here 202 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: after free agency, prior to the draft. Yeah, I think 203 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: the big picture is as an organization, I think they're 204 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: on the right trajectory. I think the arrival of Sean 205 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: McDermott as head coach of Brandon Bean as general manager. 206 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: First of all, have two people who are very much 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: aligned as you would expect, two that work together for 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: six years in Carolina while Brandon was excuse me, while 209 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Sean was the defensive coordinator, and Brandon Bean was in 210 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: the front office more recently there as assistant GM, and 211 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: they obviously in their time together talked a lot about 212 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: what their vision would be if they had the chance 213 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: to finally ascend to those spots that they have now. 214 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: And when Sean got the job, it was immediately assumed 215 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: that Brandon would follow, and which he ended up doing. 216 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: And when you see the program that they've put together, 217 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: it sounds so much like a cliche. We've all heard it. 218 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: They're going to change the culture, and we always talk 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: about that like it really means something. In this case, though, Mark, 220 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: I really believe it has, because there was a different 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: feel in the building and the players that they've they've 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: they've cleared out a lot who did not seem to 223 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: have that connection of team first uh Sean's favorite phrases one, 224 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: eleven and again, these things sound corny, but they have 225 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: a lot of truth to them, a lot of merit 226 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: to them. So you feel that difference. Uh, the fact 227 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: that they made the playoffs I think was not something 228 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: they were even banking on, as as those who put 229 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: the program together. And it happened by a miraculous circumstance 230 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton fourth and eleven touchdown pass, but it 231 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: uh so, so it it led to I think some 232 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: conclusions among fans that they're probably closer to being a 233 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: contender than they really are. They're They're they're not. They've 234 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of holes to fill. Uh, They've got 235 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: a lot of work to do, and they've done a 236 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: good portion of a free agency. They got a lot 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: of it to do in the draft, nine picks in 238 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: the first five rounds. So I think the methodical building 239 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: of this team and the way they're mapping it out 240 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: has the ability and I still I reserve judgment on 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: who they get in there, but has the ability to 242 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: be sustainable success. Well, you've covered the team for a 243 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: long time. I know you had the Cleveland Browns experience 244 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: for a while as well, and the League at large VIC. 245 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,119 Speaker 1: But when you look at the history of this franchise, 246 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: when they were so terrific, Jim Kelly was pulling the trigger. 247 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: And when you look at the quarterback situation, now, what 248 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: about the current plan at quarterback in Western New York. 249 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: The current plan would be for the team to first 250 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: of all, go with AJ McCarron in the short term. 251 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he was signed to be the guy this bridge. 252 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: I believe in the contract that he has says that. 253 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a two year, ten million dollars deal, 254 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: could be worth more, but it stands right now. It's 255 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: that kind of a deal that that tells you he's 256 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: here to keep the seat warm. The draft very much 257 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: is how they want to go about addressing the quarterback position. 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: So they made the trade with Cincinnati recently to give 259 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: up the twenty first overall pick and Corty Glenn the 260 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: left tackle to move up to the twelfth spot which 261 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: Cincinnati had. That was done with an idea that I 262 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: think absolutely shortened the distance between whatever it would take 263 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: to go from twelve to a spot to get a 264 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: shot at one of the so called Big Four. Right, 265 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, we know who they are Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, 266 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: or Baker Mayfield. I'm not sure that that's still going 267 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: to happen because of what the Jets did moving from 268 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: sixth six to third with their trade with Indianapolis and 269 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe puts them in a position where they're going to 270 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: grab a quarterback or take one of those quarterbacks away 271 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: that Buffalo would have otherwise had counted on and maybe 272 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, and to move to maneuver ahead of them 273 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: either in spots one or two. I think would take 274 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: so much, so much in the way of assets starting 275 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: to mortgage your future in the next year, that I 276 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: can't really see them getting into the business of doing 277 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: that Buffalo. So it'll be interesting mark whether or not 278 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: they can completely address the position the way they want to. 279 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Hope that maybe someone falls to them, I e. Baker 280 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Mayfield ore again trade. Maybe it's up to the fifth 281 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: spot and it doesn't require giving away assets in twenty nineteen. Excellent, Vic, 282 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: thanks so much of the time. We appreciate. That's Vic 283 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: Carrucci of the Buffalo News and Serious XM NFL Radio. 284 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: Great to visit with him. Now, let's dig into the 285 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: Eagles a little bit. A team another team as on 286 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: the Texans schedule this coming season. As Houston will go 287 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: to the link, we'll talk with Dave's and Garo about 288 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: them and hit on various topics associated with these meetings 289 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: and the league at large. It's all happening today from 290 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: Orlando on Texans Radio. Having fun here at the NFL 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: an meeting in Orlando, Florida, as owners, GM's, coaches executives 292 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: converge on this hotel to talk about what is going 293 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: on in the National Football League. One thing about the 294 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: catch rule. That's interesting when you talk about some of 295 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: these catches that weren't, it's always the receiver's name, you know. 296 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: If you say DEA's Bryant, everybody knows what you're talking about. 297 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: If you say Jesse James, they don't think wild West villain. 298 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: They think, oh, that should have been a catch for 299 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers against the New England Patriots. If you say 300 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin, that's a little more esoteric. We covered that 301 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: with Vic Caruci in the last segment, but people generally 302 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: who follow the league closely generally know what you mean. 303 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: Now let's get to our next guest here. Dave Zangaro, 304 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: formerly of CSANA Houston, now with NBC Sports Philadelphia, Good 305 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Guy covers the League, Dave, how's it going going good? Marca? 306 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Are you Every time I see you at one of 307 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: these things, it's like a big reunion, it is. And 308 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: then we see Palmer and we see all these people 309 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: and all you guys from the from the Artist formerly 310 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: known as CSN Houston. Things have changed since then, but 311 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, that was a it's always fun to see 312 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: everyone from Houston and kind of reminisce about. But to 313 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: be honest, when I was there, the team was not 314 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: very good. I was there during the twenty thirteen season. Yeah, 315 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: that was that was not a good wasn't It wasn't 316 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: a great season. It didn't like that season started off great, 317 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: those two wins, Yeah, and then every week you thought, 318 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: this is the week they're gonna they're gonna figure this out. 319 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: Kind of slid out of control a little bit, actually 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: did not even kind of Now you're in Philadelphia now, 321 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: NBC Sports Philadelphia, just coming off that Eagle Super Bowl run. 322 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Texans played the Eagles this coming season, so that'll be 323 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: interesting up there. But just if you could share a 324 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: little bit about the ebb and flow of that season 325 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: last year and how it all went down, because it 326 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: really was miraculous in many ways, how the Eagles got 327 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: there and won it. Yeah, I mean some days I 328 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: wake up and I still quite don't know how it happened, right, 329 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: because you know, they started off the season with mild expectations. 330 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: They have a quarterback going into year two, which the 331 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: Texans are going to have this year, obviously with an 332 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: injury attached to it. But they have a quarterback going 333 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: into year two who's already shown signs of being really good. 334 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: So you think all of your hopes and dreams of 335 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: this season are on this kid's shoulder. So it starts 336 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: off good, he's playing great, playing an MVP level, and 337 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: then other guys start to go down. You know, they 338 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: lose Jason Peters, they lose Darren Sproles, they lose some 339 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: big pieces Jordan Hicks, they lose big pieces to that puzzle, 340 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: and you think the reason they're able to keep going 341 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: is because of Carson Wentz. And then he goes down 342 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: and everyone's thinking, all right, this is it was nice 343 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: while it lasted, but but they're definitely done right, and 344 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: they looked at I mean the first game they played 345 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: with Nick Foles, it didn't look pretty. He had his struggles, 346 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: but it really kind of shows you that if a 347 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: team can insulate themselves enough and believe in the guys 348 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: who are filling in, they can be all right. It's 349 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: tough to do that, right, and it's it's tough to 350 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: overcome those types of injuries. But the way the Eagles 351 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 1: did it it was spectacular, it really was. And to 352 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: see them not just win with Nick Foles, but to 353 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: blow the fuckings out in the NFC Championship game. And 354 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: then when a football game, a lot of people thought 355 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: they couldn't possibly get in a shootout with Tom Brady. 356 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: If they're gonna shoot out with Tom Brady, they're done. 357 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: But then what happens. Nick Foles gets going to shoot 358 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: out with Tom Brady and somehow they come out on top. 359 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: It really was an incredible season and it's it's still 360 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: kind of wild to think that that's the way it went. 361 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: Dave's an Garow joining us NBC Sports Philadelphia. So what 362 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: about Doug Peterson? What's he liked to be around on 363 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: a regular basis. He's a fun guy and you hear 364 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: the term players coach, and that's him. I mean, he's 365 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: his guys love playing for him, and there's reasons behind that. 366 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: He kind of trusts them. One of the first things 367 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: he did when he got in Philly was he created 368 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: this this players group. It's the veteran players on the team, 369 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: and he kind of elected these guys to be the 370 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: go betweens. He wants to talk to those guys every 371 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: day and kind of get a temperature of the locker room. 372 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: So it's those types of things that have made him 373 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: really stand out as the coach. And of course he 374 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: can get into the the offensive play calling. He's obviously 375 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: done a really good job there. But to me, the 376 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: more impressive thing about him is the way he handles 377 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: his players. I think that, more than anything, has made 378 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: him a really good coach. In Sleep back to the 379 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: Wentz thing a little bit and folds along with that. 380 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: Falls to me is a great story about a guy 381 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: just sticking with it. You know, he's got some ability. 382 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: It looked like his career might be not over, but 383 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: his career as a starter certainly, And here he is 384 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: doing what he did. What do you think is the 385 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: key to all that for a player like that? As 386 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: he covered him and watched him flourish as the season 387 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: went on. It's interesting and I always go back with 388 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: Nick Foles. The day after the Super Bowl, No, no 389 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: one had slept. The players hadn't slept, the coaches hadn't slept. 390 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I certainly hadn't slept. And Nick Foles is at this 391 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: press conference to receive his MVP trophy the next morning, 392 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget what he said that morning. He said, 393 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: someone asked him, you know, what do you want people 394 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: to take away from your journey? And he said, I'm paraphrasing, 395 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: but he said, failure is a part of everything. He said, 396 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: if I didn't fail, if I didn't get to the 397 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: lowest of lows, I wouldn't have been the same guy. 398 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: So and he did. I mean, when he was with 399 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the Rams, it was a bad situation. He played poorly, 400 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: he didn't like being there. It was so bad that 401 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: he thought about retiring. So to go from that to 402 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: then hoisting the Lombardi Trophy and then getting the Super 403 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, it's it really is incredible. Obviously he didn't 404 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: do on his own. I think the coaching staff from 405 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: a schematic standpoint, really helped him. And I think that's 406 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: why some teams might still be hesitant about trying him 407 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: as a starter again because he has failed as a starter. 408 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: But I think he has it in him, and I 409 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: think that if it doesn't happen this season, it's going 410 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: to happen next season when he hits the raging market. 411 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: Someone's going to give him an opportunity to be a 412 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: starter again. Dave Zangaro joining us NBC Sports Philadelphia. All right, 413 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: so the Texans are going to play the Eagles on 414 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: the road, only the third ever visit for the Texans 415 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: to the city of Brotherly Love as they call it. 416 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: They played at the Veto two, they played at the 417 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: Link in twenty ten. Michael Vick was the core back 418 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Then some things about Philadelphia that is 419 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: it mythology, how rough the fans can be, how tough 420 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the fans are, or do they play it up because 421 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: they have that reputation. What does it really like to 422 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: be at a Philadelphia sports event, particularly at Eagles game. 423 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's not the vet. The vet was 424 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: something special. I mean, the vet very infamously had a 425 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: cell in the battles of that stadium for a reason. Yeah, 426 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean some of it's partially true. You know, some 427 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: stereotypes are based in reality, and I think this one 428 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: kind of is. But I think fans also get a 429 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: pretty bad rap. I mean, yeah, it's not a fun 430 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: place to go as a visiting fan, but I think 431 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: that's part of home field advantage, and I think that's 432 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: part of the way Eagles fans want not for other 433 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: fans to be scared to go to the stadium, but 434 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: they want it to be a slightly uncomfortable experience, and 435 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: I think they do that sometimes. Of course, people cross 436 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: the line, and that happens at every stadium, maybe a 437 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: little bit more in Philadelphia, but I don't think it's 438 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: an overwhelming majority or anything like that. For the most part, 439 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: the fans in FILI are great and they support their team, 440 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: and they'll let you know if you're supporting the wrong 441 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: team at the at the ballgame. How do you think 442 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: the division plays out in the NFC East Texans are 443 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: playing all four teams Obviously, Yeah, it's a tough one 444 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: to figure out, and I was dead wrong about it 445 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: last year. I want to put that out there. First. 446 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: I thought the Giants, we're gonna have a really good team, 447 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: and they were, of course not very good at all. Right, 448 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to have a bounce back year. They 449 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: obviously haven't done a ton in free agency, didn't have 450 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: a ton of cap room. Washington is an interesting one 451 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: because the quarterback situation is obviously changed. Kirk Cousins is gone, 452 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is in, so the divisions something the year. 453 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are clearly the front runners to 454 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: win it coming off the Super Bowl, but after that, 455 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: I think any three of those teams. The Giants would 456 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: need to have a real bounce back year, but I 457 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: think they're capable too. Obviously, they have a situation with 458 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham junior they have to figure out, right. But 459 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: if he's back, and if that team brings back the 460 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: team they had last year, there was talent there, they 461 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: just couldn't get it down the field. So I wouldn't 462 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: be surprised to see them at least be in the 463 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: mix for a while. When you look at the AFC 464 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: South covering the Philadelphia Eagles and covering that division the 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: NFC East, what do you think going into this year? 466 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: You know, the AFC. It's funny because when I was 467 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: in Houston, the AFC South was not a laughing stock. 468 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: But it certainly wasn't the division it is now. The 469 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: c Jacksonville do what they did last year was kind 470 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: of fun to see that that kind of ground and 471 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: pound style football kind of takeover. But the Texans obviously 472 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: have a really good team. A lot's gonna hinge on 473 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, A lots gonna hinge on if he's able 474 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: to come back and be the same dynamic player, because 475 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: no one people kind of forget outside of Houston, I'm 476 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: sure and Houston people remember, but during last year, Deshaun 477 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: Watson was incredible. I mean, he was doing things that 478 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: have never been done by a rookie quarterback before. So 479 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: if they get that guy back and then to pair 480 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: it with the defense, there are a lot of question 481 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: marks because you have injured players coming back. You're hoping 482 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: JJ Watt can come back. You're you're hoping the honey 483 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: Badger can be what he's made out to be. And 484 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you that guy when he's healthy, he's 485 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: a fun player. He's most one of moost versatile players 486 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: secondary players in the league, and he can change a game. 487 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: So to think about that defense on paper, I'm probably 488 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: peach preaching to the choir to people in Houston. But 489 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: that defense on paper has a potential to be lethal. 490 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: And now it's time to see if they can keep 491 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: it together and stay healthy. Because if they can, yeah, 492 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: they should be right there. Dave's and Carol joining us 493 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: from NBC Sports Philadelphia. All right, so you work in Houston, 494 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: you work in Philadelphia, and we mentioned the fans in Philly, 495 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: but the sports town Philly versus Houston, comparing contrast. Yeah, 496 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: just for a moment here, This is so tough because 497 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in Philly, Right, so I can't pick 498 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: another sports town over the town because my friends will 499 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: kill me. Right, this is where I get into to 500 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: send us to all of them. Yeah, well, I mean it. 501 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: This is tough because Houston is a great sports town. 502 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: I love my time there. I'd have to put Philly 503 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: just a peg above. And that's just I understand. That's 504 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: more self preservation because it only plans to be in 505 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: Houston anytime soon. I have to fly back to Philly 506 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: in a couple of days. Okay, But your reaction to 507 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: seeing what the Astros did, what the Rockets are doing 508 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: right now, and you just talked about what the Texans 509 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: could potentially do. Sure, Um, yeah, seeing the Astros and 510 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: talk about a turnaround. They were a laughing stock when 511 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: I was there, and but they had a plan and 512 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: they stuck with it. It's not unlike really, it's not 513 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: unlike the plan the Philadelphia seventy six ers had and 514 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: the whole trust the process. They kind of stripped it 515 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: down to build it up. Yeah, it takes guts. Their 516 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: process worked it, did you know it takes guts to 517 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: to do those sort of things because it is it's 518 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: a little unconventional and it's not something that you think 519 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: is going to yield immediate results. You have to have 520 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: a patient fan base. You have to have a fan 521 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: base that's small enough to get what they're doing. They 522 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: see the Astros was fun and the Rockets they're right there. 523 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: They certainly have a shot and that's fun. They're a 524 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: fun team to watch too. Yeah. I think that's true 525 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: about both the Astros and the Rockets. They're just fun 526 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: to watch. And the Texans can be right there too, 527 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: because that defense is gonna fly around that field. Yep. 528 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: And we'll hope Watson does this thing. Dave one more 529 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: for you. The owner's meetings here, what are you really focusing? 530 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: I know the Eagles angle of it all. Maybe reaction 531 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: to what they've done, but you have the catch role. 532 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: That's a big story coming out of here, maybe the 533 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: big story. But what are your thoughts overall? Yeah? I 534 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: mean the catch roll is what everyone's going to talk 535 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: about it, and rightfully so I like the idea behind it. 536 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: I like the idea that let's simplify this thing because 537 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: you and I know what it catches. You throw me 538 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: a ball, I catches, that's the catch. So it's gotten 539 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: so convoluted. I think they're still going to run in 540 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: the problems with it because unless you address the factor 541 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: that replay plays in it, you're gonna have trouble because 542 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: things look different at normal speed and they do slow 543 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: down fifty times. So I think unless you really get 544 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: to that point of it, it doesn't really matter. Maybe 545 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: that's the skeptic in me, but I think it's release 546 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: a step in the right direction with that rule. I 547 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see how it looks 548 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: on the field. Dave, thanks a lot for joining us, 549 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: No PROMI it's been fun. Dave's an Garo of NBC 550 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Sports Philadelphia. I almost said Houston, but Philadelphia where the 551 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: Texans will be this fall at the length the traveling 552 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: Texans will be out there and force. Coming up next, 553 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: my buddy Jeff joni Ac, Voice of the Chicago Bears. 554 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: We talk about the league, we talk a little bit 555 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: about Chicago. I mean, come on, we gotta do it. 556 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: We'll leave it throwing some baseball. How about that? Mixing 557 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: it up In the last segment of Texans All Access. 558 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: Coming up next on Texans Radio. We're in Orlando for 559 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: the NFL Annual Meeting tonight, and let's get to my buddy, 560 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Joniac, Voice of the Chicago Bears. Jeff, how you 561 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: doing fantastic? How are things in Houston? Things are very 562 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: good in Houston. Now in Chicago, I know you've been busy. 563 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Had a Bears trip down to the Dominican Republic that annually, 564 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: So Takana was this one. Yeah, I had like hard work. Well, 565 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: it conflicted with the combines. So when I did get 566 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: to the combine a little late, so I didn't see 567 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: my good friend Mark Vanderbart. It was a lot of 568 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: a lot of teasing going on that I would miss 569 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: the combine for a Bears fan trip on the beach 570 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: and Punakana. But it was a great time. We had 571 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Charles Little Junior and a Chem Hicks, two big personalities. 572 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: Adrian Amos and Marcus Cooper all joined us with Anthony Adams, 573 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: the ex Bear, and we had a good time. Fans 574 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: loved it. The combine was weird for us because we 575 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: don't have a first or second round draft choice right 576 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: so that was a strange combine. But for the Bears, 577 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: what do you guys got Because you made a big 578 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: deal to get Mitchell Trubisky last year, so what right now? 579 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: So we're looking at another top ten pick and you 580 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: cannot have enough playmakers, and right now the Bears are 581 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: still looking for some big time playmakers. I think they 582 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: dove into that significantly in free agency with the Alan 583 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Robinson signing, Trey bur signing in Philadelphia, guy who was 584 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: stuck behind two tight ends in terms of sharing the 585 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: wealth a little bit, and now he's going to be 586 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: a primary focus in the Bear's new offense, whatever it 587 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: may look like. With Mattneggie as the play caller and 588 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: head coach, and Mark Healfish coming from the college game 589 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: and their offensive line coach Harry heistand from Notre Dame, 590 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: why they regarded as one other premier, if not the 591 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: premier offensive line coach in football. So they have a 592 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: lot to work with now in terms of talent. Taylor 593 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: Gabriel comes aboard as well, So they're rebuilding the offense 594 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: of playmaking and now they have to add some pieces 595 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: on defense, a top ten defense yardage wise. I don't 596 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: love that stat. Obviously, it's about preventing touchdown and but 597 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: they do need to replace some veteran outside linebackers to 598 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: rush the passer and hope that there are guys that 599 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: were injured a year ago come back healthy, namely mister 600 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: Floyd's got to be a terror on the outside of 601 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: rushing the quarterback from Georgia. I think you' like Allen 602 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: Robinson a lot. We've seen him for year as a 603 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Jaguar and he's a terrific player. So I think that 604 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: was a good pick up for the Bears. Jeff Joneiak, 605 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Voice of the Bears joining us now, Trubisky, you get 606 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: him and he flashes, looks pretty good. Meanwhile in Houston 607 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: we have Deshaun Watson and he's flashing big time with 608 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: nineteen touchdown passes. What was the reaction in Chicago as 609 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: all this is playing out? During the regular seas. Certainly 610 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: there's a comparison contract, no doubt about it. The health 611 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: of Watson clearly is now a question mark. I'd imagine 612 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: for folks, you gotta stay healthy. Well all these quarterbacks 613 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: who can move around and so forth. But for Mitchell Trubisky, 614 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: he has considered the franchise quarterback. Ryan Paces gave him 615 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: the keys to the team at the moment. He said 616 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: it before the combine in his interview with everybody, and 617 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: it's Mitchell's team. They have given him the team. And 618 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: it's not like he's been given it and he didn't 619 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: earn it or deserve it. He has organically achieved it 620 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: because of how he is as a leader already as 621 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: a young man. And that's all the stuff that we 622 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: don't see locker room, what he's like on the practice field. 623 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: I will tell you those things, in my opinion, do matter. 624 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: You can't just say, Okay, here's your guy, like him 625 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: or you know, whether you like it or not, he's 626 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: your guy to the team. Forget about his skill set 627 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: and what he's capable of or what he's not capable of. 628 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: But he did earn it and he's gonna have a 629 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: lot more young, additional talent that are gonna know that 630 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: he's the guy, and I think that will help him, 631 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: give him a platform to move forward. But he's a 632 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: stickler for detail. He's a blue collar worker. He's first 633 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: in last out. I know that's cliche too, but you 634 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: have to be at the quarterback position. And Ryan Pace 635 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: selected this guy because, in my opinion, he most reminded 636 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: him of Drew Brees in terms of his work ethic, 637 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: his character, how he goes about football, his love of 638 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: the game, and he was with him in New Orleans, 639 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: so he understands every mindset thought about quarterback play for 640 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Pace comes from Drew Brees. He watched how he 641 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: prepared and how he led, and I think he sees 642 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: that in Mitchell Trubisky. Forget about skill set and how 643 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: they play, it's just how they operate. Well, not a 644 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: bad guy to model yourself after his behavior. Jeff Joney, 645 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Voice of the Bears, joining us. All right, So when 646 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: you look at Trubisky and the fan relationship, what's that like. 647 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: It's still so early, but they must have liked a 648 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of what they saw and they're just waiting for 649 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: the sophomore season. It started in preseason. Obviously, he came 650 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: in in a two minute drill in one of the 651 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: early preseason games at Soldier Field. It was perfectly orchestrated 652 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: by the coaching staff at that time, and he came 653 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: right down the field and put that on the end 654 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: zone for a touchdown and everybody was super excited. And 655 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: so then it became a matter of time when is 656 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: he going to play? Because that's all you gotta do 657 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: to the fan base and the media to give him 658 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: a little love, little appetizer. And now Mike Lennon did 659 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: not have a great start to the first four games 660 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: of the year, and the change was made in week 661 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: five and now we're on the Trubisky train. So we 662 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: got Trubisky Tuesdays in Chicago. We got you know, it's 663 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: all about Mitchell and he's embraced it. We had him 664 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: on one of our Bears shows on radio We Need 665 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: Watson Wednesday. There you go. Interesting. We had him on 666 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: a Bears radio show here and he's out in California 667 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: training and he's ruming with Jared Goff. They share the 668 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: same agent. So what better guy to learn for a 669 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: year or two platform jump than Jared Goff Right now 670 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: and I think you know this league that you know 671 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: the cliche is the copycat league, And I don't want 672 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: people to think, and I hopefully I don't think that 673 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: in Chicago that just because the Rams did it and 674 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: jumped to the playoffs, it doesn't mean that Bears are 675 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: going to. But I think you build around this much 676 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: like they did. Carson wentzon Philadelphia. You have to give 677 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: him some pieces to the puzzle. We were woefully underperforming 678 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: at the receiver position last year. Injuries and whatnot, circumstances 679 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: not resigning out Sean Jeffrey certainly caused us to take 680 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: a step back at the receiver position. But now I 681 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: think we've jumped back into that mix of Okay, we 682 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: got a playmaker at we got a slat guy for sure, 683 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 1: and Taylor Gabriel. We've got a tight end who can 684 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: move all over the field. We got the running game, 685 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: we got Trecon, we got pieces right now the division Minnesota, 686 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: how surprised were you that they did what they did? 687 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: Case Keenum ends up going elsewhere to the Denver Broncos 688 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: and Minnesota goes all in on Kirk Cousins. I wasn't 689 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: surprised because I know Rick Spielman very well. I know 690 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: George Peyton very well, and they're never satisfied at the 691 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: quarterback position. I mean, you think about it, all three 692 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks got jobs right the varying levels of payment, 693 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: but they all got jobs, and they've been constantly in 694 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: search of that. So they're not stopping until they get 695 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: the right guy. Now they feel they got the right guy. 696 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: They invested obviously a significant amount and a guaranteed contract 697 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: that will kind of change the landscape of the NFL. 698 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: I do believe for the quarterback position at a minimum, 699 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: and maybe only the quarterback position, but I think these 700 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: guys are all going to get three year guarantees right away, yeah, 701 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: when they sang their long term contracts. So I don't know. 702 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: There's varying opinions when you talk about Kirk Cousins from 703 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: people and how he is and what actually he is. 704 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't know that we really know just yet what 705 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: he is. But in Minnesota they going to give him 706 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: every opportunity. They got weapons galore, all right. A couple 707 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: of other divisional questions. Jeff joni Ac, voice of the 708 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears with us, you see Matthew Stafford twice a year, 709 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: and he's making a lot of money. I don't want 710 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: to get into the money. The whole division. Yeah, got 711 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers Stafford. Bigs of the Tribune just wrote this. Okay, 712 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: So the highest paid quarterback has been Matthew Stafford in 713 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: the league. Riest paid quarterback now per annual, right is 714 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: Kirkirk Cousins, and it's gonna be Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. When 715 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: so the division and Trabisky's early round raft which early 716 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: first round Drafford, which as you have in Houston with 717 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: the Sean, it's wonderful to have a quarterback. You don't 718 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: have to pay a hundred million dollars a year two right, 719 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: So all right, one hundred million dollars contract, so you 720 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: can now add stuff and build towards what ultimately it 721 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: becomes one hundred million dollar contract for a quarterback. So 722 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: it is interesting. We've got some really good quarterbacks. The 723 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: weaponry around him is good too. I think a Green 724 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: Baby got to rebuild a little bit, especially, you know, 725 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, everybody forgets the offensive line. Same 726 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, the offensive line still is a bit questionable. 727 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: Detroit seemingly has pieces to be an average team, and 728 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: they just can't get over the hump. It seems to 729 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: be an annual thing for Detroit and we just we're 730 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: rebuilding without rebuilding. How do you regard Stafford though, because 731 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: you see him twice a year, he makes all that money. 732 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: He has very killed us, great kill. He's done it 733 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: at the last minute too. He's he's great in the clutch. 734 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: Every no one can deny his ability in the clutch. 735 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: He's been great in the clutch. And it's all on 736 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: his shoulders, obviously, but it's just not him. I mean, 737 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: he's not Tom Brady. He can't do it all by himself. 738 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: I for me, the jury is still out. I'm Matthew Stafford. 739 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: And is he is he able to take you to 740 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: a super Bowl and win it? I don't know now 741 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: I had How do you feel well with Stafford? It's 742 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: it's hard to say. You know. I work with Andrey 743 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: where he loves his arm, strength and everything, and you 744 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: do see him make a lot of plays. And I 745 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: think that teams has been that team has been so 746 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: incomplete for so many years. The name running I was 747 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: just gonna bring that, give the man a running game. 748 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell when we played them in twelve 749 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: in the Thanksgiving game, Andre and I are watching that 750 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: team warm up the lines. We thought, this is a 751 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I mean just about. They had almost 752 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: everything you could possibly want, and they just sort of 753 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: underachieved for what they were trying to With Calvin Johnson. 754 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: I'll take Calvin Johnson every day and pretty good. You know. 755 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: It's like you had Andre. I mean, you're gonna be 756 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: in every game if you have Calvin Johnson. I mean, 757 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: if you have to rate the top five receivers in 758 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years, those two are in the top five. 759 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: There's no question about it, not even a conversation. What 760 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers though, because I had Peyton Manning in 761 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: the division for so long, and you're just terrified every 762 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: time he has the ball. You want the ball back 763 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: on third down, you can't get it, and you go 764 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: through that held twice a year with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, 765 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers against the Bears. I don't have the stat 766 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but before the Bears 767 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: could ever even get on the board, the Packers would 768 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: have a two score lead. It could be ten, it 769 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: could be fourteen. It could be said. But this is 770 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: and they love playing on Aaron's deadly playing on the lead. Right, Okay, 771 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: you're pretty much cooked. And that has been the situation. 772 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers can move up and down the field to 773 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: start a game, and now you're digging out of a hole, 774 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and now their defense can tee off and do whatever. 775 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: He scares me. I still believe. I know this is 776 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady goes to championships and wins championships. But Aaron Rodgers, 777 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is still the best quarterback in the 778 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: national Well, you have company. A lot of people think that, 779 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: so he can kill you. I can still see the 780 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: play that knocked us out and I knocked us out 781 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: of the playoffs a couple of years back. I can 782 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: see the whole play. I can tell you every little 783 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: detail that play, and he picks away at the slightest 784 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: mistake and ours was a safety coming down from the 785 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: post and watching Randall cob run down the seam, uncovered 786 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: sliding to his left and John Coon clips at the 787 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: last second a blitzing linebacker and Julius Peppers just went 788 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: a little bit too much slanting inside and Aaron Rodgers 789 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: got away and threw on the run and boom. I 790 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: can see the whole thing in my whole season gone by. 791 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he does, the maestro. All right, 792 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: Jeff joni Ac, Voice of the Bears joining us Chicago. 793 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: Just quick note on this, because I've asked you about 794 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: this from time to time. Give me a little temperature 795 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: of the current sports landscape. You know, I don't think 796 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: we've spoken about this since the Cubs did what they did, 797 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: and you know, now we have the Astros doing what 798 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: they did, and then you have pro football versus all 799 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: of that, and it's still a Bears town. It's still 800 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: a Bears town. So when the Bears win, everybody's happy. 801 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: Everything feels good. The week's better on Monday morning. No 802 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: matter what you're doing in your life, whether you love 803 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: it or hate it, you know you're feeling good. You 804 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: got a little hop skip in your jump. The Cubs, though, 805 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna threaten again this year. They 806 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,479 Speaker 1: are a World Series contender for sure. Their their entire 807 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: rotation is supreme. Their lineup top to bottom loaded. They're 808 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: going to hit a lot of home runs. Their leadoff 809 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: man Ian Happ, who will you know, he'll rotate without us, 810 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: but he could hit thirty home runs out of the 811 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: leadoff spot. It's got six spring homers. Many of them 812 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 1: were leadoff homers at the last check. Anyway, m Bulls 813 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: are in the rebuild. Yeah, they're hoping, you know, fans 814 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: don't want them to win another game so they get 815 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: a highest you know, possible ability and what are I 816 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: hate that concept. I don't like that. I'm like hearing 817 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: about that. Blackhawks are also, you know, having to reload 818 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. They put a lot of miles on 819 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: those skates with their star players going to the playoffs 820 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs almost every year that you know. 821 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: Now things have to be reestablished with some more y 822 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: talk about the black Hawks on the Chicago sports talk 823 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: radio when things are hot. It is tough. It is tough, 824 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: but there is a pocket that loves it. But yeah, 825 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: it's not discussed quite a bit. And then the White 826 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: Socks are trying to do what the Cubs didn't and 827 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: just loading up with as much great talent as possible 828 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: in their farm system. And they're they're going to bloom 829 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 1: in a couple of years too, maybe sooner than later. 830 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: So the Bears have an opening right now. Uh, and 831 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: as do the Cubs. But no matter what when when 832 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: the Bears win a Super Bowl? Right town will go nuts? 833 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: All Right? One note you said, Matt, is it Naggy 834 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: or naggy? Officially? I just had Bears had a business 835 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: summit that I am seed, and he was our our 836 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: last guest of the day, and so I put him on. 837 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's you know what it is. It's 838 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: where he's from, Central Pennsylvania. You know, is there's a 839 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: certain accent to it. They're drinking and vic fangios from 840 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: that area, and you know, so um yes, and folks 841 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: are gonna like this coach. He's very aggressive thought process. 842 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: I think he's aggressive play caller. Uh, he's come from 843 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: very good stock, you know, coming from Andy Reid's philosophy 844 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: and with Doug Peterson being touched by that guy's a 845 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: good tree. And he's comes from a blue collar, hard 846 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 1: working area. And you know, I came across the Mike 847 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: Holmgren tree. Really, when you're dealing with Andrey Reid and 848 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Peterson and all those guys, sure the trees blooming big though. 849 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you got Sean McDermott, you got a lot 850 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: of guys from Andy Reid, aunt Ron Rivera, he got 851 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. I'm probably missing somebody, but the bigger picture 852 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: focuses like I look at it was a YouTube video 853 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: of Matt playing arena football and he was miked up. 854 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah he was a tough hombre a man. Yeah he was, 855 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: and he was he was a leader and he was 856 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: he was getting in people's face. Let's go. And so 857 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: I think he learned about a lot about quarterback play 858 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: from the Arena League and how he now transitions into 859 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: pro football and what he wants from his quarterback. So 860 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: it's a good template, so to speak, to look at, 861 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, get rid of the ball quick and take 862 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: some chances ala Kurt Warner back in the Arena League 863 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: back in the day. So we'll see. I don't know 864 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: how it's all gonna play out. I don't even know 865 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: what this offense is gonna look like. As I said 866 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: earlier at the outset, it's a blend of all these 867 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: different philosophies. Think about Mark Helfrich, like you think, okay, 868 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: it's just wide open up Tempo, Oregon. But you know 869 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: they ran the heck out of the ball. Yeah, So 870 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm an old school guy. I still want to run 871 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: the ball between the tag I think every coach, no 872 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: matter how much he throws it, wants to run it. 873 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: Look at the great running Look at the great throwing 874 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: offenses of all time. Look at er Correo, look at 875 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf. They still ran the ball 876 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: and there's greatest show on turf. Also played some d too. 877 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: Yeah you got you gotta do that. And you know 878 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: the Bears have again pieces in place. Guys got to 879 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: really bloom. Jeff, thanks a lot for joining. If you 880 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: appreciate it, Jeff joni Ac, Voice of the Chicago Bears. 881 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for the show tonight 882 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Billow Brian Brian Gaine will get to the 883 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: Texans peeps tomorrow night from Orlando. Thank you everyone for 884 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: participating in the program. Tonight, Galata at Night is next. 885 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: Go Texans,