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Speaker 1: I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players.

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Speaker 1: Say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Edith state

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Speaker 2: is that woo woom.

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Speaker 1: And then and tie. Bowl season is upon us. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 1: Bowl season is upon us. That also means Bull Pickham

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Speaker 1: season is upon us. We happen to be running a

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Speaker 1: gigantic confidence pool known as Winter Wonders, are we not?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are Winter Wonders, of course in reference to

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Speaker 2: top flight receiving talent that can make a difference come

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Speaker 2: bigger Bowl games. But it's such a turn of phrase

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Speaker 2: that we had to use it for our ginormous Bowl

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Speaker 2: confidence pool, Winter Wonders. Playwinter Wonders dot com.

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Speaker 1: It is free, As Dan said, go to play Winter

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Speaker 1: Wonders dot com to get in. There are tens upon

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Speaker 1: tens upon tens of thousands of you listening to this show.

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Speaker 1: I know, because we see the numbers. Only a small

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Speaker 1: fraction of you have entered. This is your official queue

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Speaker 1: to go out there and do so because it is free. Now.

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Speaker 1: The purpose of today's episode is to give you a

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Speaker 1: crash course. There are forty three Bowl games if you

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Speaker 1: include the National Championship. We are gonna go through all

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, really, we gotta hurry up.

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Speaker 1: We are going through all of them, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: give you just enough to be dangerous. Of course, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go back through. We will go into more detail

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Speaker 1: with some of the bigger games, the New Year's Six,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, the National Championship, other games of intrigue. We

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Speaker 1: will do that over the course of the next month

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Speaker 1: or so. But since we are telling everybody to join

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Speaker 1: this bullpool, and since the game start next weekend, we're

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Speaker 1: recording this on Wednesday, December the sixth, We thought the

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Speaker 1: least we could do is give you a one oh one,

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Speaker 1: an intro to ball season that you can use to

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Speaker 1: some picks. That's where things stand right now.

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Speaker 2: I have strong thoughts, I have weak thoughts, I have

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Speaker 2: medium thoughts. I'm ready to go goldilocks on bull season.

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Speaker 1: Ty, So again, go to Playwinterwonders dot com. All are

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Speaker 1: welcome to play. Like I said, there are many upon

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Speaker 1: many of you who listen to the show. A small

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Speaker 1: fraction less than one percent have entered the Winter Wonders

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Speaker 1: Bowl Confidence Pool at time of recording.

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Speaker 2: Got to get in.

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Speaker 1: Here is how the game works. Okay, there are forty

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Speaker 1: three Bowl games if you include the National Championship. The

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Speaker 1: way the game works is, you go through, you pick

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Speaker 1: straight winners in every game, not against the point spread.

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Speaker 1: You just pick which team you think is going to win,

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Speaker 1: which in Bowl season is way harder than it looks,

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Speaker 1: trust me. Then you go back through and you rank them.

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Speaker 1: You put forty three points next to the game that

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Speaker 1: you're most confident in, all the way down to number one,

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Speaker 1: And at the end we add up all your points,

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Speaker 1: all your confidence points, as it were, and that's how

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Speaker 1: we determine who wins and who doesn't win. The grand

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Speaker 1: prize winner, Dan gets a two hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: credit to Pristine Auction, as well as some Pristine Auction swag.

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Speaker 1: You get a one to one limited edition Winter Wonders

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Speaker 1: Championship T shirt, which I have had the good fortune

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Speaker 1: of seeing up close to personal.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice one.

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Speaker 1: And we're also going to throw in a congratulatory cameo

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Speaker 1: from Fox Sports TV. Referee Dean Blandino.

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Speaker 2: Mandatory, always, mandatory, mandatory, that.

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Speaker 1: Is the way it works. But that is not all.

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Speaker 1: If you finish in the top eleven, everybody gets at

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Speaker 1: least a fifty dollars credit to Pristine Auction. So never

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Speaker 1: before have we done this thing where we give out

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Speaker 1: Never before have we done I think, a pool of

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Speaker 2: I love a December to remember a tie. We're wrapping

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful tie all right, this is all over when

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Speaker 1: Drink some hot cocoa, and not look at college football

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Speaker 1: Here is how I pick a bowl confidence pool. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think the primary indicator for who you're going to

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I want to ask you a bunch

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Speaker 1: Arnold ringing us in this is our crash course, Dan,

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Speaker 1: first one is the Myrtle Beach Bowl December the sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: This is a classic battle of two half teams. Georgia

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Speaker 2: I would take Ohio here, though, I think they have

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Speaker 1: So they do have a bunch of opt outs right,

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Speaker 1: Medium confidence the Cricket Celebration Bowl. This is a good one.

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Speaker 1: This is a good one. This is Howard at six

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Speaker 1: I am putting all of my points, all forty three

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Speaker 2: Howard right there with big ten West Northwestern, they were right.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't twenty three to twenty. It was twenty four

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Speaker 2: Batt'll test it. I disagree.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Howard, the dark cloud defense. All right, your turn.

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Speaker 1: RNL Carriers, New Orleans Bull It's Louisiana six and six,

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State eight and four, sixteenth of December two, fifteen

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Speaker 2: Louisiana finished losing three of four, but it was tight

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Speaker 2: at Troy. If you remember a strong pass rush for Louisiana,

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Speaker 2: they won three of their last four bowl games. This

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Speaker 2: Rod they start five and one, though they did finish

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Speaker 2: losing two of three. Another team with a good pass rush.

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Speaker 2: I think Jacksonville State has the defensive edge here, especially

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Speaker 2: I'm going Jacksonville State here, going game Cox. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Medium medium confidence. Yes, it's like a twenty five or

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Speaker 1: somewhere in correct. Okay, Cure Bowl app State eight and five, Miami,

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Speaker 2: Got yeah. So app State finished their year winning five

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Speaker 2: asterisk because of James Madison's inability to compete for it.

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Speaker 2: Miami won the MAC behind strong defense, though their quarterback

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Speaker 2: just opted out. I saw that they did a good

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, they lost to Miami in a Miami Cup

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Speaker 2: Bahamas Bowl last year. I'm still gonna do Miami of

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Speaker 2: Ohio with high confidence. His high confidence I think because

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we This is again one of the guiding

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Speaker 2: Yes, the defense, and says a brom but it is

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go have State. Okay, I go have State.

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Speaker 1: Low confidence, but again I reserve the right to change

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Speaker 1: But moving forward, if you want to make yeah, this

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Speaker 1: change my Miami Ohio. We'll see. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: to say this. Is this the isleta New Mexico Bowl,

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Speaker 1: It is Fresno State at ten and four. Jeff Tedford

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Speaker 2: For this game, I don't think he's retiring as head. No,

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Speaker 1: Stepping away. The linebacker. Coach Tim Skipper is going to

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Speaker 1: But it's not only they play defense anyway. This year.

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Speaker 1: I'm more interested in Diego Pavia, the quarterback for New

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Speaker 1: You know what my coat is. Fresno lost three in

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Speaker 1: New Mexico State is playing in the New Mexico Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I am on the aggies media confidence.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they beat the pseudo SEC champion Auburn Tigers.

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Speaker 2: That's how close they played both the Georgia and Alabama.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going diego Pavia who is beat up. But

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Speaker 1: Here la Bowl hosted by Gronk.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the gronkification of society right now?

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's all over the place.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're Gronk guy.

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Speaker 2: You could do a lot worse than Gronk in this lifetime.

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Speaker 2: You can do a lot worse. Where is he from

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Speaker 2: he was from up there somewhere, Okay, somewhere over here

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Speaker 2: lost the Sun Bowl the pit last year. Boise won

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Speaker 2: the Frisco Bowl last year. I'm going Boise even with

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Speaker 2: Give me boise because I think there's more juice around

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Speaker 1: I believe, man, I gotta go Ucla. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Come on, ty I do like Ashton gent. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those games that I'm going to

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Speaker 2: UCLA loses their quarterback of the future to the Portal.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's UCLA's offseason. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, level of confidence on that one? Again?

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Speaker 2: What did I write down here? I have Boise medium.

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Speaker 1: Boise medium medium boys Okay. The Radiance Technology Independence Bowl

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Speaker 1: I don't know who I'd pick in this matchup. I

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Speaker 2: has won two straight bowl games over each of the

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Speaker 2: Mississippi schools. I am taking Cal. I just think we're

436
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Speaker 2: going to get a shootout here. This is a rematch

437
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Speaker 2: of the two thousand and four Holiday Bowl after Mac

438
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Speaker 2: brown campaign against Aaron Rodgers and Cal to make a

439
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: big Bowl game and Texas Tech went on to drub them.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's a different year, and I think

441
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Speaker 2: Cal has a little bit more motivation, even though they

442
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Speaker 2: don't have the defensive edge here. I watched Texas Tech Texas.

443
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Speaker 2: I think Fernando I believe Fernando Mendoza and Cal have

444
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Speaker 2: the edge here.

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Speaker 1: I read earlier on Reddit that the sponsor of this

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Speaker 1: Bowl game may be in possession of and has reverse

447
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Speaker 1: engineer to alien technology. Don't know if that's true, can't

448
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Speaker 1: confirm it right, but that makes the game interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Famous Toastery Bowl. Don't think they've

451
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Speaker 1: got alien technology. I think they've got just good toast.

452
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Speaker 2: Is it like a brunch breakfast type place.

453
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Speaker 1: We got an email from Famous Toastery as Yeah, we did.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we to.

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Speaker 1: Have somebody I think from Famous Toastery on It would.

456
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Speaker 2: Probably from from the Bowl game or was it of

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Speaker 2: the company. I think it was of the company to

458
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Speaker 2: just talk about hash Browns I mean we.

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Speaker 1: Could probably do that.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it here, Sure, Western com a solo Tie episode.

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Speaker 1: It's a solo Dan episode, is what that is? Yeah? Continue,

462
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Speaker 1: Western Kentucky seven and five Old Dominion six and six,

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Speaker 1: eighteenth of December, two thirty pm Eastern time on on ESPN.

464
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Speaker 1: I have no idea who to pick in this game.

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Speaker 2: So the Western Kentucky, the topper offense leads the way.

466
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Speaker 2: Shout out Malachi Corley, very good receiver, All Conference USA receiver.

467
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Speaker 2: Their defense is fine. Western Kentucky basically beat beatable teams,

468
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Speaker 2: lost to decent ones, and won three of four to

469
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Speaker 2: end the year. Ricky, Ronnie and ODU led by their

470
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Speaker 2: own defense, especially the run defense. They beat both Georgia

471
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Speaker 2: Southern and Georgia State to get Bowl eligible. Plus they

472
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Speaker 2: had that big win over app State. They have an

473
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Speaker 2: absolute tackling machine in Jason Henderson, an All conference performer.

474
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Speaker 2: Western Kentucky wins bowls. They won three of their last

475
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Speaker 2: four bowls, and ODU lost the twenty twenty one Myrtle

476
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Speaker 2: Beach Bowl. All that said, I think I'm gonna go

477
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Speaker 2: with the defense here, and I'm gonna go with the Monarchs.

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Speaker 2: How about that.

479
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Speaker 1: I think I want to go Ricky Ronnie.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going high confidence.

481
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Speaker 1: Monarchs, high confidence, high confidence again, put your confidence points

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Speaker 1: on those on those early.

483
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Speaker 2: Games, Famous Toastery Confidence.

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Speaker 1: If you have yet to go out to Playwinter Wonders

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Speaker 1: dot Com, pause the episode, go out register it's free.

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Speaker 1: Pick along with us. At least put something down on

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Speaker 1: papers so you have picks that you can go back

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Speaker 1: and modify later.

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Speaker 2: Okay, ty Stick, I'm sticking Odu. And in the Famous

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Speaker 2: Toastery bowl, I'm not waffling. You see what I did.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, moving on, Scooter's Coffee Frisco bowl. So we've

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Speaker 1: got Famous Toastery followed by Scooter's Coffee. It seems like

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Speaker 1: an ass little tandem. Nineteenth of December, nine pm Eastern

494
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Speaker 1: Time on ESPN, it's UTSA at eight and four. It

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Speaker 1: is Marshall at six and six. UTSA lost in the

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Speaker 1: American Championship to Tulane.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Gronkowski family from western Pennsylvania, Alleghany County.

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Speaker 2: That's right, there's your fact check that had to come

499
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Speaker 2: in right there. Of course, that's all good.

500
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Speaker 1: UTSA went up a level this year and got off

501
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Speaker 1: to a rocky start there, one to three After that,

502
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Speaker 1: they won seven straight once they found their bearings. They

503
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Speaker 1: lost to Tulane in that American Championship game, but still

504
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: a pretty good season. Jeff Trailer did not leave for

505
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Speaker 1: another job. He's still there, so he was rumored for

506
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Speaker 1: like all the big jobs, but he's still at UTSA.

507
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Speaker 1: They are losing in this game. The American defensive Player

508
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Speaker 1: of the Year Trey Moore, who is in the portal,

509
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Speaker 1: that is going to hurt them. But the anchor of

510
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Speaker 1: the Marshall offensive line, Trent Holler, is also in the portal.

511
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Speaker 1: And there's a good chance that their star running back

512
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Speaker 1: Rasheen Ali is also going to opt out. So this

513
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Speaker 1: is all a very long way of saying that I'm

514
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Speaker 1: on UTSA. Here. This is a bowl game about four

515
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Speaker 1: and four hours forty minutes or so up the road

516
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Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas. I think UTSA has what it takes.

517
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Speaker 1: If the UTSA is playing, by and large pretty well

518
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Speaker 1: down the stretch, give me UTSA high confidence dand they're

519
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Speaker 1: favored by nine and a half.

520
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Speaker 2: And did I see this threat? So Frank Harris is

521
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Speaker 2: coming back for yet another year.

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Speaker 1: Dude, how is this possible?

523
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Speaker 2: So Marshall doesn't have their quarterback, and UTSA is going

524
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Speaker 2: to have Frank Harris until at least the mid twenty thirties.

525
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Speaker 2: Frank Harris just had his fifty first birthday trotting out

526
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Speaker 2: there against tu Lagank.

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Speaker 1: Harris is going to be a player coach at this point.

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Speaker 1: If Jeff Trailer leaves, Frank Harris can just slide into

529
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Speaker 1: that role. He knows the system. At this point.

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Speaker 2: Frank Harris is currently twenty four years old. He will

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Speaker 2: finish his career being able to legally rent a car

532
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Speaker 2: without paying a fee. That's great, unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Theroofclaim dot com Boca ratone Bowl. This is one of

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Speaker 1: those bowl logos that I sent to you that AI generated. This,

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Speaker 1: didn't it great? Not a whole lot of budget spent

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Speaker 1: on graphic design for the roofclaim dot com Boca ratmbol.

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Speaker 1: It is South Florida at six and six. It is

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Speaker 1: Syracuse at six and six. Twenty first of December, eight

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on ESPN. I have to put a side

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Speaker 1: for a second, and I think you have to put

541
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Speaker 1: a side for a second. This sudden rush of excitement

542
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Speaker 1: that I think we both have for Syracuse football next season.

543
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Speaker 1: Fran Brown we are all in on Fran Brown. We

544
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: are all in on Elijah Robinson. Yeah, did you happen

545
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: to see Elijah Robinson's comments with respect to how he

546
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Speaker 1: is handling the fact that he built a relationship with

547
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Speaker 1: these defensive linemen and now he's going to another place.

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Speaker 2: No, what do he say?

549
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Speaker 1: He gave an incredible series of comments on this, saying

550
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Speaker 1: that he went to each of his players, he talked

551
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Speaker 1: to all of their families and seat of trying to

552
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Speaker 1: recruit them to come with come with him to go

553
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Speaker 1: to Syracuse, he instead was pretty adamant about Mike Elko's

554
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Speaker 1: a good man. I coached for him. Give the new

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Speaker 1: staff a chance to build a relationship with you before

556
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Speaker 1: you decide to go elsewhere. I mean, if you're a

557
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Speaker 1: fan of A and M, it's a kind of thing,

558
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Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing that makes you well up.

559
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was really really classy of him that

560
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: said it would really be a story if Walter Nolan

561
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Speaker 1: went with him to Syracuse. I don't know if that's

562
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Speaker 1: likely to happen. But the combination of Fran Brown coming

563
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Speaker 1: from Georgia and now Elijah Robinson coming from A and M.

564
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Speaker 1: Both programs obviously having a ton of talent. Uh, you know,

565
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: an obvious one of my work looking for here, just

566
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Speaker 1: an abundance and over abundance of talent that could transfer

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Speaker 1: to Syracuse. It would not surprise me as Syracuse ends

568
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Speaker 1: up being pretty good quickly. Can't count on that, but

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Speaker 1: probably not this ball season. Not this ball season. And

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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about here. Would you like to

571
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Speaker 1: venture a guest as to how many Bowl eligible teams

572
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Speaker 1: USF and Syracuse beat this season collective? The collective total

573
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Speaker 1: zero one one. Okay, USF beat Rice back in Week four.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Take that.

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Speaker 1: So Cues fired Dino Babers. They replaced him with Fran Brown,

577
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Speaker 1: with Elijah Robinson. We're gonna end up being way too

578
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: high on these guys next season. I can see it

579
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: coming already. In the interim. They are piloted by Nunzio, Cappan, Nali, Cappaneely, Cappa, Nile.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you say it. For the time being,

581
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Speaker 1: they're only losing Leon Lowry in the portal. He was

582
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: their edge rusher. Both teams have been dreadful this season

583
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: in spots. I do think the good vibes around Fran Brown.

584
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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's met the team. I think there's going

585
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Speaker 1: to be this renewed sense of purpose among guys on

586
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Speaker 1: that squad. Q's is only favored over USF by three.

587
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Speaker 1: I'm on CS with high confidence.

588
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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I think those good vibes are going to be pervad

590
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Speaker 1: throughout the existing roster. Syracuse is going to go out

591
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: there and play well and win.

592
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is also an opportunity for guys on Syracuse specifically,

593
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: not that USF had some interesting games, obviously highlighted by

594
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Speaker 2: the performance against Alabama defensively and Alabama's lacrosse eligible Notre

595
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Speaker 2: Dame quarterback. I guess this is an audition situation for Syracuse,

596
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: auditioning for both the new coaches and auditioning potentially for

597
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Speaker 2: the next two or three windows in the portal that like, well, look,

598
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Speaker 2: you know, Syracuse didn't win a bunch of games, but

599
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Speaker 2: look what this linebacker did, Look what this left tackle

600
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Speaker 2: did whatever in their playoff performance. So yeah, I think

601
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Speaker 2: there's going to be a little bit of excitement around

602
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Speaker 2: Syracuse football here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going cues Union Hall, Mortgage, Gaspare Bowl, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Gasper Bowl twenty two, December six, thirty pm Eastern time

605
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Speaker 1: in ESPN, it is UCF six and six. It is

606
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech six and six. I screwed this one up

607
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Speaker 1: on the sheet. You chastised me earlier for mixing up

608
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Speaker 1: this one in the Birmingham Bowl. It's since been corrected

609
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Speaker 1: on our website. If you go out to play Winter

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Speaker 1: Wonders dot com, we've got a listing of all the games.

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Speaker 1: We'll put some of our blurbs here to help guide

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Speaker 1: you through, as well as the link to this episode,

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Speaker 1: just to I don't know, keep you up to date,

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Speaker 1: give you a little bit of an extra resource for

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Speaker 1: picking these games. But UCF I saw maybe in the

616
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Speaker 1: running for Grayson McCall, which would be saw that be

617
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: an interesting move for them that of course will not

618
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Speaker 1: apply to Bowl season. I'm pretty high on Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the fact that they made

620
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Speaker 1: it to a bowl game at all is pretty pretty

621
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Speaker 1: damn cool. It was a tough schedule for him. The

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Speaker 1: fact that they made it is a nice feather in

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Speaker 1: the cap of bran Key. But who you got in

624
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Speaker 1: this game?

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Speaker 2: So you seef a lot of gas, a lot of

626
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Speaker 2: breaks for as much fun as that rushing attack. Was

627
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Speaker 2: the defense just allowed other teams to run really well.

628
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech a better running team. Haynes King probably took

629
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Speaker 2: too many liberties in the past game and ended up

630
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Speaker 2: throwing a lot of interceptions. But this is as you

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Speaker 2: alluded to. This is Georgia Tech's first bowl game since

632
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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Paul Jein's final year. They took an l

633
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Speaker 2: in the quick that years six years the Jeff Collins

634
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: era was not really a postseason type era for I

635
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: didn't realize it was that long. Jackets YEP. UCF lost

636
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Speaker 2: two of their last three and our bowl games excuse me,

637
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: including last year's Military Bowl. But UCF during this season

638
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: they finished winning three of four. I'm going with Georgia

639
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: Tech here. I think they've got the juice. I think

640
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: even against Georgia right, they just don't back down from anybody.

641
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: They generated turnovers and key opportunity, key moments. Excuse me.

642
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to Georgia Tech to put a nice exclamation

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Speaker 2: point on the season.

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Speaker 1: Birmingham Bowl twenty three, December high noon, ABC, Duke seven

645
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Speaker 1: and five Troy eleven and two. Now, this to me

646
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Speaker 1: strikes me as a game where we could apply some

647
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Speaker 1: of my rules because Duke is bleeding players. They've got

648
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: all sorts of guys transferring, they just lost their coach.

649
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: They're going up against a team in Troy that has

650
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Speaker 1: a very very good defense, Yes, and obviously a team

651
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: that's been pretty sold well the last couple of seasons.

652
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: This is not any sort of slouch matchup here. I

653
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: know you and I both looked at a few of

654
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: the computer projections. Troy seems like the team that the

655
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: computers favor as well. So are you also going with

656
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: the Trojans.

657
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with the Trojans with high confidence, just

658
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: because of a Duke program that is still very much

659
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: undergoing a transition after losing their quarterback, their head coach,

660
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: their best defensive lineman. Look at the quarterback was beat

661
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: up a chunk of the year anyway. So Duke finishes

662
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: losing two of three, and both of those losses were

663
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: winnable the North Carolina game of the Virginia game. As

664
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: you alluded to, Troy led by their defense. The offense

665
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: is pretty good though they're explosive throwing the ball down field.

666
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: Javon Solomon is a problem off of the edge for Troy.

667
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: Duke's only been to one bowl game since twenty eighteen.

668
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: They did win last year's Military Bowl. Troy won last

669
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: year's Cure Bowl after a drought of Chip Lindsay in

670
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: his three years. So I'm going Troy because they just

671
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: they come to play. They just won the Unbelt.

672
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm in high medium low, Hi, Yeah, Okay, Chamellia Bowle

673
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Arkansas State at six and six Northern Illinois at six

674
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: and six, twenty third December high noon on ESPN. I

675
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: just want to call out something about Arkansas State, the

676
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Red Wolves. They not only beat Texas State seventy seven

677
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: to thirty one in a game that literally nobody talked about,

678
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: they also lost seventy three to nothing against Oklahoma in

679
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: Week one. So an interesting season for them, sort of

680
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: the highs and the lows of the seventy Burger for

681
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the Red Wolves. Limited sample size, but Arkansas State didn't

682
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: do a single thing this season against teams that actually

683
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: played defense, and so I think NIU can win ugly.

684
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: It'll be a little more ugly than usual this time

685
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: around because they lose Trayvon Rudolph, their best wide receiver,

686
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: their best return man. He entered the portal but I

687
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: still think I'm on NIU here medium coffe.

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: It's okay ball, fair.

689
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: Enough Armed Forces bawl the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl.

690
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: This one twenty third December, three point thirty Eastern time

691
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: on ABC. It is James Madison. James Madison in a

692
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: bowl game. Because some of the other teams that would

693
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: be want to qualify above them lost favored by three.

694
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: They are eleven and one scoring off against Air Force,

695
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: which is eight and four. This is a fascinatingly weird game.

696
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: To handicap. I spent so much time in this game.

697
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: I did what twenty one games?

698
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: You did?

699
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: Twenty one games? I spent way too much trying to

700
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: figure this one out. First off, you've got the James

701
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: Madison story, which is a great one. After all, the

702
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: BS with the NCAA for the entire duration of the season,

703
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: they find a way to get into this football game,

704
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: which is a fun matchup. It's a weird, just battle

705
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: of interesting offensive struggles or offensive styles, i should say,

706
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: and struggled styles in some cases for air Force. Right,

707
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: jmu's got a bunch of guys in the portal, notably

708
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: among them Jordan McLeod, the starting quarterback, five defenders. But

709
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like those Portal guys are still gonna play

710
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: in this game. Okay, they're still gonna play, I'm guessing

711
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: because it is a momentous moment for this program. They

712
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: just got to FBS a year ago. They didn't think

713
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: they were gonna be in a bowl or have a

714
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: chance to play for anything in the postseason. Now they are.

715
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I think it speaks vibues about those guys that they

716
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: want to stick around for this, so that I think

717
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: is a nice boost for them. If Jordan McLeod playing,

718
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: Jordan McLeod is supposedly playing in this football Okay, I

719
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: suppose that could change again. We're recording this on December

720
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Speaker 1: the sixth. If things change, will put that out on

721
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Speaker 1: the on the website that we built to Playwinter Wonders

722
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Speaker 1: dot com. But at time of recording, Jordan McLoud is playing,

723
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: as are the five defenders that are also going to

724
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: be going elsewhere after this season. Jalen Green, I don't

725
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: believe is going to be playing for James Madison. He

726
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: was their big edge rusher. He got hurt, didn't play

727
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the last three games. I'm assuming he's going to go

728
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: pro won't be part of this game, probably still hurt,

729
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: but keep your eyes peeled for that one. There is

730
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: that huge emotional lift for JMU for getting to this

731
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: bowl game. And on top of it, I would add

732
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: that Air Force has been a mess the last month

733
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: of the season without their quarterback Zach Larrier. Now it

734
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: sounds like he could be back for this bowl game,

735
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: which I think changes things a bit, But I don't know.

736
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: So this is one of those wait and see type things.

737
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Air Force obviously likes to run it with the option,

738
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: that is their thing, but James Madison has the number

739
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: one rush defense in the sp Plus. I'm going to

740
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: go with the Dukes here. I'm going to go low confidence.

741
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: I think they absolutely want to be there more than

742
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: almost anybody this bowl season, and the fact that they

743
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: are not losing all of those guys until after this game,

744
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: to me, is really indicative of them caring. So I'm

745
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: on the Dukes here. I think they care more than

746
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: almost anybody. I would be inclined to pick them over

747
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: a great number of teams that they are not supposed

748
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: to beat. I don't think Air Force is one of them.

749
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: They're favored in this game, but I'm going to go Dukes.

750
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: Here I said low confidence, I'll say medium confidence because

751
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: I know they want to be there.

752
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: Fair it depends on air Force's quarterback's health. And another

753
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: important thing to remember is air Force won this game

754
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: last year and fully broke the Baylor football program in

755
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: the process. How has Baylor been since losing to Air Force?

756
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 2: And what I believe was was this the coldest measured

757
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: bowl game of all time last year?

758
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Wild? Yeah, really cold.

759
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: It fully broke Baylor. Maybe there are other factors as well,

760
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: but this was Baylor last year. I think there were

761
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: six and six heading into this game. I'm gonna go

762
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: air Force as well, so also I'm going on Air Force.

763
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: I'm going James Madison. James Madison also lost their coach,

764
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 2: did they not?

765
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: They lost their coach. They lost their coach.

766
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: But I just think there's there's a little bit uncertainty

767
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: right now.

768
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: I think the fact that they lost the coach but

769
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: retained so much of the talent that those guys want

770
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: to stand around and play in this game and not

771
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: go off the parts unknown that to me. Again, I

772
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: don't take the coach lost thing with as much importance

773
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: as I do. Effort otherwise and this to me is

774
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: like as good as signals, you're gonna get that. There's effort.

775
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: These guys want to be there, all right.

776
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: I think we disagree, although the collapse of air Force

777
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: as they've been beat up, is not something that.

778
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: November was shrug off. November was pretty bad, pretty by yere.

779
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: If it's a December to remember, it's a November to forget.

780
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Famous Idaho Potato Bowl twenty third, December, three, thirty pm,

781
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: Easter Time, ABC. Utah State six and six, Georgia State

782
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: six and six, Dan, who you got.

783
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: I'm digging Utah State with medium confidence. Their offense was

784
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: ahead of their own defense. They won their final three

785
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: or four. They did get shelled by Boise State. They

786
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: did a nice job throwing the ball downfield. Georgia State

787
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: is sort of limping into bowl season. They lost their

788
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: final five games, but remained l better offense than defense,

789
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: but still not anything special. Georgia State won its last

790
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: two bowl games in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one.

791
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: Utah State has split its last two under Blake Anderson.

792
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to go with a little bit more momentum,

793
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: which doesn't exist, but in my mind it does Utah

794
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: State and the Aggies Medium confidence.

795
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, il Utah State there as well. The sixty eight

796
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: Ventures Bowl. You know what's sixty eight Ventures is an

797
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: idea couldn't even begin to guess. It is a I

798
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: believe real estate holdings company something okay.

799
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: Real estate services that deliver results for clients, customers and partners.

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Speaker 1: This game is on December to twenty third, seven pm

801
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: Eastern time, ESPN South Alabama six and six, Eastern Michigan

802
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: six and six.

803
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: All of their like the head of sixty eight Ventures.

804
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: This is an unnecessary tangent tie, but all of the

805
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: the head of this company, sixty Adventures, they all have

806
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: names that sound like they could be sun Belt quarterbacks.

807
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: You ready go ahead? All right? If I were to

808
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: list off like, these are the sun Belt quarterbacks in

809
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: order of like quarterback rating from two thousand and three,

810
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: you ready, Nathan Cox, Drew Dolan, Adam Campbell, Sam Haginis

811
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: Hanson Babbington, Walter.

812
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Full Hanson Bam.

813
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: That's an alias, Will Lowry, Chadwell Cunningham. You're telling me

814
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Chadwell Cunningham didn't throw for thirty one hundred yards for

815
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: enter for I know Marshall's a recent enter into the

816
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: Sun Belt. But like Chadwell Cunningham, like, was he not

817
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: like a walk on at Georgia And for Mark Richt come.

818
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,479
Speaker 1: On transferred out to app State.

819
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too obvious. All right, that's all. That's your

820
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: tansion of the day.

821
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: Do you have a pick in this game? South Alabama,

822
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan.

823
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: South Alabama. Absolutely, I'm fading the mac here and South

824
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: Alabama with a really impressive year. Once again, I'm going

825
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: with the Jacks.

826
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: The SRS distribution Las Vegas bul I call this the

827
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: very poor Man's Rose Bowl. Okay, twenty third, December seven

828
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: thirty ABC Northwestern at seven and five, Utah at eight

829
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: and four. So this is really really interesting because Utah

830
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: is the better team. Utah is the better team, but

831
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: they've taken on serious water. Bryson Barnes transfer Portal, Nate

832
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Johnson backup quarterback, transfer Portal.

833
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: But is Barnes playing? I feel like I saw that

834
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: he's Portal but playing. Unclearbe that's changed.

835
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: Unclear to me. All I've seen a lot of is

836
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: that it might be Luke Batari's team in this bowl game,

837
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: in the Las Vegas Bowl, yeah.

838
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying Bryson Barnes to enter transfer portal after bowl game.

839
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: As of two days ago, it's a little unclear what's

840
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: going to happen here at the quarterback situation, But okay,

841
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: just keep that in the back of your mind as

842
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: you're picking this game. Maybe come back to it. I

843
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: don't know what the status is there, but I said

844
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: it's interesting, right. Sure, Luke Patari played in the final

845
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: game of the season, and if he plays again in

846
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: the bowl game, you know, just kind of factor that

847
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: in Devon Vailey Valley Vley yep opting out. Jonas Ellis,

848
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, could also opt out and go pro.

849
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm not entirely sure Utah gives a damn about this game.

850
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they care. Kyle Whittingham went eleven to

851
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: one his first twelve bowl games. He since lost his

852
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: last four, including back to back Rose Bowls. Like I said,

853
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: poor Man's Rose Ball. Yeah, maybe he loses another one here.

854
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm just not sold on Northwestern, all right, I'm not

855
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: sold in the Big Ten West.

856
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: If you're fighting as Northwestern need to do, they need

857
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: to do.

858
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: A lot more to convince me they could beat a

859
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: team like Utah. I still think Utah is pretty good.

860
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: I still think I like Utah here, high confidence, even

861
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: with some of the uncertainty. Give me the Utes favored

862
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: by seven. I like the Utes.

863
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm goling Northwestern here, not because I think they're better,

864
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: but just because of the way the season played out

865
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: and the opt outs, and even if Bryson Barnes plays,

866
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: obviously this is going to be his last game, and

867
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: maybe there's a motion both ways. I'm well at Northwestern here.

868
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: I think they're riding high. They finished the season winning

869
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: four or five, right, they scored a bunch of points

870
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: against Illinois. I think they're operating all right.

871
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I think Utah's a mess easy post Hawaii Bowl, San

872
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Jose State seven and five Coastal Carolina seven and five

873
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: plays one twenty third, December ten, thirty pm, Easter Time

874
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: on ESPN. San Jose State losing their stud left tackle

875
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: Fernando Carmona as well as their tight end Dominic Mazzati,

876
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: which is going to hurt. But Coastal is going to

877
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: be without Grace McCall and I think that's a bigger

878
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: loss because they're also going to be down starting wide

879
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: receiver A linebacker. They're also ten hours away from this game.

880
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: It's like a long trip for a game that doesn't

881
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: really matter. Yeah, you're going to Hawaii, which is nice.

882
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: But I think San Jose State's got the better coach.

883
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: I'll take Brent Brennan any day over Kim Beck. I

884
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: got San Jose State high confidence here.

885
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were a different team the second half of

886
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: the year. I think I'm going with them as well.

887
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: Quick Lane Bowl twenty sixth of December, day after Christmas.

888
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: This one's two pm Eastern. ESPN's Bowling Green seven and

889
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: five Minnesota five and seven. Getting into this bowl game,

890
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: Dan Bowling.

891
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: Green finished the year winning five of six. They are

892
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: led by their defense, led by a great pass rush,

893
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: a great tackling team. They beat Georgia Tech this year.

894
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: They were right there with Toledo. They've got a couple

895
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: studs on both sides of the ball. Harold Fannin at

896
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: tight end, cash Is Howel off the edge in absolute terror.

897
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota finishes zero to four. That features a close loss

898
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: to Illinois. We'll see maybe Darius Taylor is back in playing.

899
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: He was a bright spot early on, but dealt with

900
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: injuries all year long. They've got a great kicker, an

901
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: all big ten kicker and dragging Kassich if you remember

902
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: kick that game winner over Nebraska to open the season

903
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: up with Gus Johnson going. Yeah, Minnesota has won their

904
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: last six bowl games, So PJ. Fleck and the Gophers,

905
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: you know, show out in late December. I guess they

906
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: won last year's Pinstripe Bowl over Syracuse. I still think

907
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: there's a talent advantage. Minnesota wins this game ugly in

908
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: the quick Lane Bowl. Medium confidence in a Midwestern battle.

909
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: I like Minnesota. I'm on Minnesota. High confidence there. I

910
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: like it OA Serve Pro First Responder Bowl. Texas State

911
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: seven and five, Rice six and six, day after Christmas,

912
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: five point thirty pm Eastern Time on ESPN.

913
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this could have been fun or more fun. I

914
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: still think it'll be a fun game because both of

915
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: these teams have interesting offenses. JT. Daniels has medically retired

916
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: from football and new will shift into coaching as the

917
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: next part of his journey. So I think we wish

918
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: him all the best. He's been around college football for

919
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: a long time and so hopefully it's a great move

920
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: for his health and happiness.

921
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: It won't be the same Without seeing JT. Daniels in

922
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: the transfer portal of this offseason. I feel like it's

923
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: an annual rite of pass it. I wish it well.

924
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not making fun of him, of course, I just

925
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: feel like he's always in the transfer portal.

926
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: Texas State led by familiar name as well, TJ. Finley.

927
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

928
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: Texas State book ended their season by beating Baylor in

929
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: South Alabama. I mean, those are two legit programs South

930
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 2: Alabama at the moment, perhaps more so than Baylor. Texas

931
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: State's defense is kind of a mess. Rice is similarly

932
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: led by its offense. It was JT. Daniels Dean Connors,

933
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: which is a great name. He handles all of my

934
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: investments in my retirement account. Luke McCaffrey, familiar name. Of course.

935
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: They're strong in the red zone. Rice beat a bunch

936
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 2: of bad teams. They also beat Houston, which is also bad,

937
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: and they also gave good teams a great shot when

938
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: you look at what they're able to do against teams

939
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: like SMU and Tulane. This is the bold debut of

940
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: Texas State, which is pretty cool. Rice lost the Lending

941
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: Tree Bowl last year. I'm going Texas State here TJ.

942
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: Finley and Dean Connor's Esquire with a huge.

943
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: Performance guaranteed rate bull be tweenk Kansas and UNLV is

944
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: a good matchup. M I like this one day after

945
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: Christmas nine pm Eastern ESPN. Kansas is favored by twelve

946
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: at time of recording. They lost their offensive coordinator Penn State.

947
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: They may lose Kobe Bryant, their cornerback to the portal.

948
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: There are also some rumors that UNLV quarterback Jordan Mayeva

949
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: Mayava may also jump in the portal. Haven't heard anything

950
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: yet at time of recording. Obviously things could change, but

951
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: he had a good year. Both these teams are great stories,

952
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: and for as good of a story as Kansas was

953
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: a year ago, UNLV might be the better story this season.

954
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: I think they'll be motivated here. I don't think they've

955
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: got the defense to run with Kansas. That is my

956
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: only reservation about picking the running reps. I really like

957
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: the season that they had. I think they're going to

958
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: be firing up as hell for this game. But I

959
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: think Kansas just has so much on offense and they're

960
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: going to be able to score at will. Jason Bean

961
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: will play in this game. I think Kansas will will

962
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: still have its offense out there in full fource. So

963
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: battle two teams, neither of which plays a whole lot

964
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: of defense. I'm gonna take the better offense in Kansas,

965
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: high confidence.

966
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: Same. I also don't like the turnover situation we had

967
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: from UNLV against Boise State. Maybe that was a one

968
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: off situation, but yeah, I'm going to Kansas here with

969
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: a time to get healthy. I think it's going to

970
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: be meaningful too for the Jayhawks.

971
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,279
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972
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,719
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973
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: site to help you figure out where to go bowling.

974
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 2: Oh great, that makes sense.

975
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: Good name, very literally named. Virginia Tech six and six

976
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: Tulane eleven and two. This is a weird matchup to me, man,

977
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: you know what spread is in this game? And will

978
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: take a guess.

979
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: No, Virginia Tech Tulane Virginia Tech by a point and

980
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: a half to Lane without its head coach.

981
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech minus seven and a half point.

982
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: Willie Fritz moving to Houston.

983
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,959
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a lot of points here. December twenty seventh,

984
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: two pm on ESPN. Willie Fritz is gone. I think

985
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: Michael Pratt will also be gone at time of recording.

986
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure. They've got a freshman

987
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Chris Brazel gone. On paper. On paper, these

988
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: teams are extremely evenly matched, and I think this is

989
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: one where you go against the team losing the coach.

990
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: I think losing Willi Fritz here is a problem. I

991
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: also think Virginia Tech was very motivated down the stretch.

992
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: I do too.

993
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: They beat super impressive, they beat the breaks off of

994
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: UVA in the Commonwealth Cup.

995
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I always do.

996
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Tech medium confidence here. I think this

997
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: is a really really nice story and the kind of

998
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: thing that Tech can use going into the offseason to

999
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: build some positive momentum. It took a little bit to

1000
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: yet going. But you know, as well as I down

1001
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: the stretch, we're talking, all right, Kyron Drones. Kyon Drones

1002
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: throws a nice ball. It seems like they're playing a

1003
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit better. They are playing sound defense. It's not

1004
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 1: a bad team. It's not as bad of a team

1005
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: as I think we feared, as certainly a lot of

1006
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech hockey fans feared coming into the season. They

1007
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: got it together late. I feel like they've got a

1008
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: lot of momentum going into this game.

1009
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: So another I've got another sort of snip snap team right,

1010
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: win loss, win, loss win to finish out the year.

1011
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Virginia Tech here, and it was

1012
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: if it is Kay Horton for Tulane, I don't know

1013
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: what his health status is, but if it is Kay Horton,

1014
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean he's a quality option as we saw against

1015
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: Ole Miss, So I think Tulane's still gonna be good.

1016
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: I like Virginia Tech here with time to prepare and

1017
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: Tulane not in disarray but obviously going through a number

1018
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: of changes. Willie Fritz taking off.

1019
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: Now we're starting to get into some of the big

1020
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: boy matchups. Dan Yes, Duke's Mayo Bowl, twenty seventh of December,

1021
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: five thirty pm Eastern time. It is North Carolina eight

1022
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: and four, it is West Virginia eight and four. Who

1023
00:51:59,680 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: you pick?

1024
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 2: I think? I like, man, this is a tough one.

1025
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: I think. Okay, So, first of all, we don't know

1026
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: Drake May's status at the time of recording, and if

1027
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: he's going to play in this game, I believe he is.

1028
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: Leaning the stories I've seen it seems that they're going

1029
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: to have him in this one to play one last

1030
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 2: game with North Carolina before opting out for the NFL. Obviously,

1031
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: North Carolina had a fast start but lost four of six.

1032
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: The defense collapsed to finish the year, especially against the past.

1033
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: Not that West Virginia is incredible, but they did generate

1034
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: more explosive plays downfield this year than they did last year.

1035
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: West Virginia, on the other hand, won their final four

1036
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 2: of five. Garrett Green was solid when healthy. They're only

1037
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: really bad loss this year was to Houston, and that

1038
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: was on a hail Mary. And I don't know what

1039
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: that says about the Big Twelve. I don't know it

1040
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: says about West Virginia. This is Ty hilden Brands Big Twelve,

1041
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: by the way, where West Virginia is a hail Mary

1042
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: away from going nine to three in this super conference

1043
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: of ties. But West Virginia is solid. They're solid. North

1044
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: Carolina is largely solid, but they lose winnable games, and

1045
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: that's the problem in picking this game. North Carolina under

1046
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: Mac Brown has lost three straight Bowl games. Last year

1047
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: in the Holiday to Oregon. West Virginia has lost its

1048
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 2: last four or five bowl games last year to Minnesota

1049
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: and the Guaranteed Rate Bowl. I think, excuse me, Minnesota,

1050
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: I think West Virginia wants to be here a little

1051
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 2: bit more, whereas North Carolina might be disappointed. I'm going

1052
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: with West Virginia.

1053
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm on West Virginia, man, I'm going I'm going here.

1054
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm going ears. I think this is an interesting matchup.

1055
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: I think they could run on North Carolina, and this

1056
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: is an offense built around the run. If you're like,

1057
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: just keep North Carolina off the field. That's not to

1058
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: say West Virginia has any kind of shutdown defense, but right,

1059
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: keep him off the field. You've got the advantage with

1060
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: the ground game. And I agree. Getting to eight wins

1061
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: for Neil Brown, he was on the hot seat. He

1062
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: was the number one guy if you go out to

1063
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: like coach hotseat dot com whatever. Yeah, coming into this

1064
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: season to win eight games in the way that they

1065
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: did the hell of a season. So yeah, I agree.

1066
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: I think Neil Brown gets the Duke's Mayo dumped on

1067
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: him at the end of this one Direct TV Holiday Bowl.

1068
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: Here we go Louisville ten and three, USC seven and five,

1069
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: twenty seventh of December eight pm on Fox. Caleb William's

1070
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: not playing in this game, right.

1071
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams officially opted out. I think Marshawn Lloyd. It

1072
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: was said that he was going to play, and then

1073
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: when Lincoln Riley talked about the running backs that will

1074
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: be available, did not discuss Marshaw Lloyd, so it doesn't

1075
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 2: sound like he's going to be playing either. Obviously, they

1076
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: make the move at defensive coordinator, getting rid of Alex

1077
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: Grinch near the end of the year, now hiring Danton

1078
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Lynn from UCLA, So there in the middle of their

1079
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: own transition. Obviously, they're going to be sort of fast

1080
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: and furious in the portal as we speak. I couldn't

1081
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: imagine a team who wants to be in a Bowl

1082
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 2: game less, because it also seemed like a team who

1083
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: didn't want to be in the season less after losing

1084
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: a couple by the end of the year. So I

1085
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: have Louisville here just because of desire, you know, as

1086
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: he started out fund six and l finished one in five.

1087
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, we have been Louisville. Even with the

1088
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: disappointment of having the ACC available to them, I think

1089
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: it's still a positive year for them. So I'm going

1090
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: Louisville to be to be happy to finish out the

1091
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 2: year with a win.

1092
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 1: Are we on Miller Moss watch?

1093
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 2: Don't we have to be? I think we have to

1094
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 2: be playing. Let me they can see what they have

1095
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: in Malachi Nelson. I guess the freshman. It's because it

1096
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: doesn't affect eligibility.

1097
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: Miller Moss is going in the portal after this. He

1098
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: should watch.

1099
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: No. I just think he's going to get a job.

1100
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the Texas Tax Act Texas Bowl twenty

1101
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: seventh of December, nine pm, Texas A and M seven

1102
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,280
Speaker 1: and five Oklahoma State nine and four nine pm Eastern ESPN.

1103
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: I have no idea who's going to play this game?

1104
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: For eight a M I tried to find. I have

1105
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: no idea who's playing this game. They're they're basically going

1106
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: to be down their starting wide receiver, corps, a bunch

1107
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: of guys along the lines. They are still favored by

1108
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: three and a half points in this game, but after

1109
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: lose using Jimbo. After losing, I think a bunch of

1110
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: guys who are obviously having conversations elsewhere. I don't think

1111
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: they care about this game. I don't think they care

1112
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: so I'm going to Oklahoma State, low confidence. I don't

1113
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: think they're the better team. I still would favor Texas

1114
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: A and M, and it wouldn't surprise me if A

1115
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: and M still won this game by like two touchdowns.

1116
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: But I don't think they care not a lick. So

1117
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: give me the Cowboys.

1118
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right.

1119
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: I'll go with that, well, Sabby Fenway Bowl Boston College

1120
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: basically a home game here, playing in Fenway Park. Six

1121
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: and six, SMU eleven and two favored by eleven and

1122
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: a half, which is interesting. Twenty eighth of December, eleven am,

1123
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: Eastern Time, ESPN. Boston College has some interesting transfers, but

1124
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of guys that really weren't playing down

1125
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: the stretch here. Meanwhile, SMU is going to be down.

1126
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: Preston Stone didn't seem the matter a whole lot. Kevin

1127
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: Jennings did fine. Yeah, I think Sebu SA is clearly

1128
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: the better team. They won nine in a row. They

1129
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: solid on defense, but this game is a letdown because

1130
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: it's not a New Year's six game and it's a

1131
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: home game for BC. So give me the nine and

1132
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: three goals. Even though they won six and six, outright, outright,

1133
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: I think low confidence. But this is a Thomas Castillanos

1134
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: game where he just runs wild. They end up winning

1135
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: the game in their backyard. So low confidence Boston College

1136
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: for me, Yeah, I'm going to SMU.

1137
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: I just think they're better. And even though it's not

1138
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: as motivating they didn't have like a special, special special

1139
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: year and losing the quarterback, I still think they're in it.

1140
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: I still think they're motivated. And BC loses their final

1141
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: three games of the year, losing my twenty five to Miami,

1142
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: losing my twenty six to Virginia Tech, losing to PITT.

1143
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, all right, bad Boy Mower's Pinstripe Bowl,

1144
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: we got a handful left here.

1145
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1146
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Rutgers six and six, Miami seven and five, twenty eighth

1147
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: of December two, fifteen Eastern on ESPN. Rutgers in a

1148
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: bowl game. This is a nice story. Do you think

1149
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: Miami cares?

1150
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, we always care about the bad boys. The

1151
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: bad Boy Mower's Pinstripe Bowl. Tye, you own a hat,

1152
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: you own a pin stripe bowl hat.

1153
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't a bad Boy Mowers then, no, I think

1154
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: it was a new era but yeah, i'd wear a

1155
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: bad boy Mower's pinstripe bowl hat. Yeah, for sure.

1156
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: Miami dealing with a bunch of opt outs, especially on defense.

1157
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: TVD has entered the portal. I'm Marie Williams hurt, so

1158
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: it's a Jae Curry Brown game for Miami. I don't know.

1159
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: Miami lost their last three of four. Both units for

1160
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: Miami have been decent. It was just too many mistakes

1161
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: late in games. Rutgers lost their last four, still led

1162
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: by their defense, which is pretty good. Their DB's made

1163
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 2: plays even in losing efforts. I just don't see where

1164
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: the points are coming from for Rutgers. So I'm taking

1165
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: Miami here with medium confidence.

1166
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: I'm a Miami high confidence. Yeah, I like Miami here.

1167
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't like Miami in general, but I think in

1168
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: this matchup, I agree. I don't know where the points

1169
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: are coming from. Pop Tarts Bowl. Here we go. Pop

1170
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: Tarts Bowl twenty eighth of December five forty five ESPN,

1171
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: NC State nine and three, Kansas State eight and four.

1172
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: The story around this game is that there is an

1173
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: edible trophy. Yes, it's like.

1174
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: An edible trophy or an edible mascot.

1175
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: Edible mascot. I guess, okay, edible mascot. Whoever wins gets

1176
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: to take the big bite out of the mascot. They

1177
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: asked Dave Dorin about it. He seemed uncomfortable. That made

1178
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: it even better. But willing, ultimately willing, ultimately willing to

1179
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: take a big bite out of the Pop Tart's mascot. Yeah,

1180
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: if they win, So we don't need to talk about

1181
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: the hygien component of that. But it can't be any

1182
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: worse than having a big thing of mayonnaise dumped on you.

1183
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: And at least it's creative. So I give Pop Tarts

1184
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: some credit on that front.

1185
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: Would I would argue that there are many more bulls

1186
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: that should have edible mascot. Hellyea, And we're gonna get

1187
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: to the Orange Bowl. Yeah, we have a cheese at Bowl. Yeah,

1188
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: we have Chadwell Cunningham and the sixty eight Ventures Bowl,

1189
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: So we have a big edible subway. Chadwell Cunningham forgot,

1190
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: I think that's his name.

1191
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, who you got?

1192
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't know who's playing NC Kansas State? Yes, I

1193
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: did do the this game. I have I think I

1194
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: have NC State in this one. Actually Kansas State down

1195
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 2: now their offensive coordinator Chris Climban headed Texas A and

1196
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 2: M down their starting quarterback, and Will Howard not Walker Howard.

1197
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Colin Klein, Colin Klein had the and M not Chris Clemon.

1198
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris client, excuse me, that would be a news story.

1199
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: Colin Klein h that's very difficult with Chris climb In

1200
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: and Colin Klein. Chris Climban is there, Colin Klein is not.

1201
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: Will Howard is not. NC State won their last six

1202
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: of seven. Pretty tough slate by the way, their defense

1203
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: is better than their offense. Weird portal stuff with one

1204
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 2: of their quarterbacks and MJ. Morris who decided to shut

1205
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: it down halfway into the year. Kanstate finishes the year

1206
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: winning two of three. They couldn't really generate or stop

1207
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: big plays. Awesome in the red zone though on both sides.

1208
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: NC State has lost their last three straight bowls that

1209
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 2: they played in. You remember that last second UCLA Holiday

1210
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Bowl cancelation. Kansas State has lost two of their last

1211
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: three bowl games, including getting drilled by Alabama and last

1212
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: year's Sugar Bowl. All in all, going with defense here

1213
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: and NC State, they just kind of have winning DNA.

1214
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: You know, they won on the CW against Clemson, winning

1215
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: against North Carolina. It was a tough stretch that they

1216
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: did really well down. So I'm going with the Pack here.

1217
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going wolf Pack as well. I pretty

1218
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: consistently undersold this team all year and again.

1219
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: I'll almost rightfully so though with how they kind of

1220
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: started out.

1221
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said they were the eighth best team in

1222
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: the ACC. I think they finished third. It was a

1223
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: good year. It was a good year for the Pack.

1224
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: So good on them. I'll pick them with you. I'm

1225
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: with you there, Here we go. This is the bowl

1226
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: game of bowl season, Valero Alimo Bowl. It is Arizona

1227
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: nine and three. It is Oklahoma ten and two, twenty

1228
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: eighth of December nine to fifteen Eastern on ESPN. Oklahoma's

1229
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: losing Dylan Gabriel. We talked about that in the last episode.

1230
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: They're losing Jeff Levi, which means that Jackson Arnold is starting.

1231
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Someone else's calling the plays. Meanwhile, Arizona could be without

1232
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: Jordan Morgan, their big left tackle. Also, Jacob Cowie might

1233
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: go pro the wide receiver. I think Arizona cares a

1234
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: lot more about this game. I think they care a

1235
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: lot more about this game. I don't think the situation

1236
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: where Oklahoma's going to be mailing it in, but I

1237
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: think losing your coordinator. I think losing your quarterback. Even

1238
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: though I really like Jackson Arnold. I think Arizona's got

1239
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: a better defense than many realize. I think they've got

1240
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: a better offense than many realize. I think this is

1241
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: one of those games for Jedfish that you win this one.

1242
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: This is a huge bit of momentum going into a

1243
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: new conference next season where frankly, they could be one

1244
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: of the five best teams as presently composed in the

1245
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: new Big Twelve. So this one, to me is a

1246
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: fun game. It's whoever as the ball last, which is

1247
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: why it's low confidence. But I'm inclined to go Arizona here.

1248
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 2: They're favorite buying this game, playing this game in Norman, Oklahoma. No,

1249
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going Oklahoma here, and I'm sure Oklahoma fans

1250
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: would argue Jeff Levy might be additioned by subtraction. Yeah,

1251
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: after some of their close calls and losses this year

1252
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: in the past couple of years, I'm going with Arizona

1253
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: here as well. I think they're the ones looking to

1254
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 2: put that Cherry on top of a wildly successful year.

1255
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: The tax Slayer Gator Bowl Clemson eight and four Kentucky

1256
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: seven and five, twenty ninth of December at high noon.

1257
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: Here's what this comes down to. What this comes down

1258
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: to is Ray Davis for Kentucky is out. I have

1259
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: no idea how they're scoring without him full stop, even

1260
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: against a defense that I think is probably gonna get

1261
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: killed with opt outs. On the Clemson side, I'm on Clemson.

1262
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: High confidence, high confidence, don't overthink it, underthink express here

1263
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Clemson minus whatever. All right, let's go to the Tony

1264
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: the Tiger Sun Bowl twenty ninth of December, two PMCBS.

1265
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: Did you happen to see that the Sun Bowl reps

1266
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: were celebrating getting Notre Dame? Did you see that? I

1267
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: would too. Did you see there was like a whole

1268
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: bunch of celebration that went on. Some genuine weirdness.

1269
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: You're gonna get Marcus Freeman in some boots.

1270
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, some genuine weirdness though when it came to

1271
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: getting Notre Dame in a bowl game at all, and

1272
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: people have written articles about to go out there and

1273
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: check it out. It's Notre Dame nine and three, Oregon

1274
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: State eight and four. I'm curious how the Sun Bowl

1275
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: folks feel realizing that it's going to be like Steve

1276
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: Angelly against Ben Golbronson sure in this one because I

1277
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: can see Sam Hartman opting out. I see both tackles

1278
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: Joalt and Blake Fisher opting out for Notre Dame. Audreck, Guestime,

1279
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: Howard Cross, all those guys, why bother? Why play in

1280
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: this game? That is on top of basically the entire

1281
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: receiver room for Notre Dame transferring out, which means I

1282
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: don't know what version of this offense we're going to get.

1283
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile on the Oregon State side, they lose

1284
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: their coach, they lose Dju, they lose Aidan Chiles, they

1285
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: lose Damian Martinez, who's not going to be playing. I

1286
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: have no idea how you handicapped this game. Notre Dame's

1287
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: favored by nine and a half points. But here's the

1288
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: other bit of weirdness. And I don't know if you

1289
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: saw this. Yeah, who's the new coach for Oregon State?

1290
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: Trent Bray?

1291
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: Who is Trent Bray? Has he any familiarity with Oregon State?

1292
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: Trent Brays Their defensive coordinator, their.

1293
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinat current defensive coordinator, right, and well.

1294
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: He's about to be their head coach. He was sort

1295
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: of given interim and then taken off. But yeah, yeah,

1296
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: that's the weird part. So he is the new coach,

1297
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: but may not coach in this game. Correct, busy with

1298
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: the portal, busy with recruiting.

1299
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: Busy with the portal, busy with recruiting. He's not going

1300
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: to coach. I mean he's interested, he's interested, I'm sure,

1301
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: but he's not going to coach it. So he's the

1302
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: new coach, he's ready on the staff, but he's not

1303
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: going to coach the game. Yeah, at least it doesn't

1304
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: sound that way. They're gonna let the guy that they

1305
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: named the interim coach be the actual coach or the

1306
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: football game where he's out doing. I don't know what

1307
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: he's doing.

1308
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: Newly hired head coach Trent Bray, according to the Portland Tribune,

1309
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: will not coach the team in any capacity for the

1310
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: bowl game.

1311
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: It is the weirdest thing. And he's been on the staff,

1312
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: so I don't get. This is like the anti fickle

1313
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: that we saw last year where he wasn't on the

1314
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: staff and coach. New coach has never coached the ball game.

1315
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: He was on the sidelines. He was doing interviews. Just weird.

1316
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Notre Dame should still be able

1317
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: to run it and hold down an Oregon State offense.

1318
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do on offense. So

1319
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: give me Notre Dame here house.

1320
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: What's his name, Steve Angeli would we say, I.

1321
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: Don't think you're ready for Angelly.

1322
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you're ready for Yeah.

1323
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know him, can't Yeah, I don't know. It

1324
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: could be somebody else. But regardless, I think Notre Dame

1325
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: still has enough beef up front, enough firepower in their

1326
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: ground game that they will find and they'll be showcasing

1327
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of younger players, which I'm fine with. Whatever.

1328
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: I'm good with Notre Dame with high confidence.

1329
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get in the zone. Dan Okay go to

1330
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: the AutoZone Liberty Bowl twenty ninth of December three point

1331
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: thirty ESPN Memphis nine and three Iowa State seven to five.

1332
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: We got so.

1333
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: Memphis is an offensive team.

1334
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: As we know.

1335
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: They finished winning five of their last six. They only

1336
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: lost to good teams this year. Defense is pretty bad.

1337
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: There's no real pass rush for Memphis. Iowa State's offense

1338
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: took a nice step forward, it's still not great. The

1339
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: defense took a step back. Iowa State's offense is sort

1340
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 2: of an Otown offense all or nothing. So I think

1341
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: I still like Iowa State here. I like the way

1342
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: they closed out the year winning in Pharmageddon. I think

1343
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: they have just a little bit more because of the defense.

1344
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: So I'm going Iowa State medium confidence. Didn't go to

1345
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: a bowl game last year. Last year was sort of

1346
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: a disaster on offense and that hamsered them. Memphis has

1347
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: won their last two bowl games, including last year's first Responderbowl.

1348
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: But I think Iowa State bounces back in a big way.

1349
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 2: Clones medium confidence.

1350
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: I watched one Memphis game in its entirety this year

1351
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 1: home game for Memphis, by the way, home game from Memphis.

1352
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: I watched one Memphis game in its entirety. I've seen

1353
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: plenty of highlights. Yeah, that was the last Memphis game

1354
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: that I watched. It was undeniably frustrating. It feels like

1355
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: they should be better than they are, and they had

1356
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: a good Seaton went nine to three. So I'm on

1357
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: Iowa State high confidence here. I agree with you. Okay,

1358
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: finally we get to some of the big boys. Okay,

1359
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: all right, let's close this thing out strong. Danny Goodyear

1360
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl twenty ninth of December, eight pm, ESPN. Ohio

1361
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: State eleven to one, the Missouri Tigers ten and two.

1362
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: Missouri favored by one point. There is going to be

1363
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 1: an absolute ton ton of turnover on the Ohio State side.

1364
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 1: Kyle McCord, Julian Fleming notably, or the transfer portal. I

1365
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: believe Devin Brown gets to start if not. If not,

1366
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: it is going to be seventh year Tristan Gebbia getting

1367
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: the start for Ohio st. I never thought I would

1368
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: see the day that Tristan Gebia is getting the start

1369
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: for Ohio State, but it could happen in this football game.

1370
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 2: Okay, just saying, did you see what Devin Brown tweeted

1371
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 2: out today?

1372
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 1: I did not.

1373
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: He tweeted out the picture of the ship's burning, like

1374
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 2: burn the boats like I'm here, I'm not doing anything right. Yeah,

1375
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm committed. Will he still feel that way? If Ohio

1376
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 2: State brings in a transfer before this game kicks.

1377
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: Off, he's gonna he's He's got no choice. He burnt

1378
01:08:59,720 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: the boat.

1379
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: He burnt the boats. There's also link Lincoln klein Holtz,

1380
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: if I pronounced that correct, a four star from somewhere

1381
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: in Big Sky Country who was at Washington then committed

1382
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: to Ohio State. I think I like the stability of

1383
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: Miszoo here. I like and I think there's any opt

1384
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: outs on this Ohio State defense that we haven't seen.

1385
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: Look, there are there are like seven other guys in

1386
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 1: the portal, guys like Key Stokes who didn't play a

1387
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: whole lot this year, but Evan Pryor I saw, showed

1388
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: a lot of promise. There are going to be other

1389
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: potential opt outs here. Right, We've already got Marvin Harrison Junior,

1390
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: he's out, I Mecca Igbuko, your favorite receiver, Trey Henderson,

1391
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: j T. Toulmalu, Michael Hall, Denzel Burke, Josh Proctor, Jack Sawyer,

1392
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: ty Leek Williams. That's what the list could look.

1393
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: Like from an those candidates, Yeah, obvious candid.

1394
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 1: It could look that catastrophic from an opt out standpoint. Meanwhile,

1395
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: I think it is a full boat for Mazoo, and

1396
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be mostly a full boat. And I think

1397
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: they're excited to be in this game is a big

1398
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: deal for you. Talk about guys who on the hot seat,

1399
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,600
Speaker 1: Eli Drinkwitz coming into this game or coming into the

1400
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: season being very much on the hot seat. Turn the

1401
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: thing around. Got the offense playing with a real identity,

1402
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: bringing Kirby more down. I'm on missou low confidence.

1403
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: You know the drill.

1404
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: We put low confidence points on all these later games

1405
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: because they tend to be, at least in my opinion,

1406
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: harder to predict. It's only a one point line here

1407
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: in favor of Miszoo, So I just want to enjoy

1408
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,879
Speaker 1: these games. I'm on missoul low confidence.

1409
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: That sounds right to me.

1410
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: Chick fil A Peach Bowl. It's Penn State ten and

1411
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: two oh miss ten and two thirtieth of December high noon.

1412
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,799
Speaker 1: Looks like it's pretty much a full boat on both sides.

1413
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: Penn State took on some water chop. Robinson declared for

1414
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: the NFL. I do think Olufashano as well as Kaylan

1415
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: King will probably do the sing.

1416
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: Probably do see Lane Kiffin tweeted out congratulatory words to

1417
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 2: top right Dason so happy that he wasn't going to play.

1418
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: I did if Kaylan King leaves that probably means fewer

1419
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: pass interference penalties against Penn State.

1420
01:10:58,880 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: Well, there's that.

1421
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: Maybe a bit of silver lining there. There will also

1422
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: probably be more Penn Staters there than ole Miss fans.

1423
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Penn Staters in Atlanta, very

1424
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: easy flight. I think it'll be a nice crowd.

1425
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: Wow, more Penn Staters in Atlanta than Old Miss people.

1426
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised. Okay, don't be surprised. I'm not going

1427
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: anywhere near Penn State in this game, nowhere near them.

1428
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: That offense sucks. I know they got rid of Mike Iersich.

1429
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it looked better against Michigan State. Ole Miss is

1430
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good team, and I think they'll be pretty

1431
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: much loaded here. So if I were to put medium

1432
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: confidence on a game this slate, I would go Old

1433
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: Miss medium confidence. But you know my role with thumb,

1434
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: I go Old Miss low confidence.

1435
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm going Penn State here. I'm still believing in this defense.

1436
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: Don't do it, do not do it. They don't care

1437
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: who did Penn State lose to this year. They lost

1438
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: to Michigan in Ohio State.

1439
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: That's it.

1440
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: Did you see how the offense looked against the only

1441
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: two the only two good teams on the schedule.

1442
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: When you watch all misplay defense, you're like, that's a

1443
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: Michigan and All State type defense right there.

1444
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, man, don't do it.

1445
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm going Penn State here. I feel great about it.

1446
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:06,560
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

1447
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: Don't do it. You're out of your mind. You're too close.

1448
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 1: Trans Perfect Music City Bowl, Auburn six and six, Maryland

1449
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: seven and five, thirtieth of December, two PM and ABC.

1450
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: Who you got.

1451
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: Auburn lost their last two. Of course, New Mexico State

1452
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: and Alabama, two heavyweights led by their defense. As we know,

1453
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: Maryland was pretty decent on both sides the ball, but

1454
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: they did lose three of their last five and they

1455
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: were just not winners down the stretch. Maryland did win

1456
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: their last two bowl games. Last year. They won the

1457
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: Duke's Male Bowl. If you remember with Mike Loxley and

1458
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 2: his giant Maryland hat, you remember that.

1459
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: That was awesome. That was the highlight of bull season

1460
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: last year.

1461
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Auburn lost three straight, has lost three straight bowl

1462
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: games and five of their last six bowl games. Doesn't matter,

1463
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: it's you Freeze, it's his you know, made in voyage

1464
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: for Auburn. I'm gonna go Maryland here. I'm gonna go

1465
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: to Maryland with the quarterback advantage and Auburn with the

1466
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it doesn't mean anything to Auburn,

1467
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: but I think everybody coaching wise, behind the scenes, wise,

1468
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: has their heads in the portal, has their heads on recruiting,

1469
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: and I don't think this game is as much of

1470
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: a priority as is from Maryland.

1471
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: This is the swan song for Tua or for Telia.

1472
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Excuse Tealia.

1473
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1474
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: I go Maryland, low confidence, Okay, I'm with you. Capitol

1475
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: one Orange Bowl thirtieth of December, four pm ESPN. We're

1476
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: obviously get to do a much bigger preview of these

1477
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: games as they get closer. This is just sort of

1478
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: the primer. But Florida State thirteen and Oh Georgia twelve

1479
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: and one. You may have seen the awkward screenshot of

1480
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: the zoom call, the pre Bowl zoom call between Kirby

1481
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: Smart and Mike Norvel. Obviously, Florida State is going to

1482
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: have a lot to play for here. They're essentially playing

1483
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: for pride. They are going to be at their backup

1484
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: quarterback Jordan Travis got hurt a couple of weeks ago,

1485
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: very sad what that's the reason they're not playing for more. So,

1486
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: you could probably make the case at Florida State doesn't

1487
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: care about this game not being in the playoff. You

1488
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: could also make the case that Georgia doesn't care about

1489
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: this game. Certainly could be dueling teams that would rather

1490
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 1: be in Cancun or would rather be playing in the

1491
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff. I tend to favor Georgia here by

1492
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 1: a wide margin. I don't know what their frame of

1493
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: mind will be. I don't know if they're going to

1494
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: have to deal with opt outs or anything of that nature,

1495
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: but I.

1496
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: Think both of these teams are going to be dealing

1497
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: with a lot of opt outs.

1498
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. I think it's going

1499
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: to be a shell of Florida State, and I think

1500
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: that if nothing more, puts them at a supreme disadvantage

1501
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: here against the Georgia team that still is better from

1502
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: a depth standpoint, Yeah.

1503
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: This game is impossible. I'm gonna go with Georgia here

1504
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: just because the general talent level is higher. If both

1505
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: of these teams are dealing with a bunch of opt outs,

1506
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 2: and you can you know all the names for Georgia

1507
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 2: that on both sides of the ball that could be

1508
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: missing from action in this one. So yeah, I'm still

1509
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: gonna go Georgia here just because I think that the

1510
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: roster is in a better place. And you know, if

1511
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: Carson Beck and They're gonna have the quarterback advantage over

1512
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: Tate Rodamaker.

1513
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 1: It's Playwinterwonders dot Com. We've got six more games to

1514
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: go through, and then we'll talk for a hot minute

1515
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: about the proposed national championship matchups as they stand per

1516
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: point spreads out on DraftKings. All right, ooh, here's what

1517
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 1: we got here the Barstool Sports Arizona bull It's Toledo

1518
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: at eleven and two squaring off against Wyoming at eight

1519
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: and four thirtieth of December four thirty. You can watch

1520
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: this one out on barstool. This is the sicko game

1521
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: of bowl season. That's what this is. This is Ta

1522
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: Kwan Finn transferring out of Toledo, as is their big lineman,

1523
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: Vinnie Scurry. I am picking Wyoming. I am not crazy

1524
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: about Wyoming.

1525
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 2: Swan song for Craig Bowl.

1526
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: Their coach is literally named Bowl, that's true, and he's retiring.

1527
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: This is a retirement match. How can you not go

1528
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys here? So I go, Cowboys go medium confidence?

1529
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 2: Where's this game? What's this?

1530
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: This is the Arizona Bowl. Believe they played this one

1531
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: at Chase Field.

1532
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of these games? Was it? When? Was it

1533
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 2: the Insight Bowl where the camera fell?

1534
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I remember that somewhere in Arizona. I don't know

1535
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: where it is. It doesn't matter. I'm on Wyoming.

1536
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm on Wyoming too. I'm gonna fade fade the mac here,

1537
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 2: especially without Dakwan Finn. So yeah, give me Wyoming in

1538
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: the Swan Song game.

1539
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: Rely request Bowl LSU against Wisconsin. This is a New

1540
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: Year's Day game, high knew in ESPN two. If you

1541
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: are looking for a game late in bowl season to

1542
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: put all of your confidence points on.

1543
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, this is probably the one. Well, what's Jade

1544
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: and Daniels status? It doesn't matter, Scaren nuts Meyer time,

1545
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Garret Nus myyer time.

1546
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: Baby. It is likely we get opt outs from Jade

1547
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Daniels as well as Malik Neighbors Brian Thomas out wide.

1548
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: Both those guys for LSU probably opting out on the

1549
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 1: Wisconsin side. Braylen Allen's already out, he declared for the draft.

1550
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 1: They're down to two wide receivers in the portal. I

1551
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 1: think it's thin for wy Wyoming, Wisconsin at skill positions

1552
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: in this one. And I just don't see how they're

1553
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: going toe to toe with Lsu. I know l I

1554
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 1: know Ls's got issues with defense, but I have no

1555
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 1: idea Wisconsin has far greater issues on offense at this point.

1556
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: I agree Lsu high confidence minus whatever she's at Citrus

1557
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: Ball Dan New Year's Day, Iowa ten and three, Tennessee

1558
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: eight and four, one pm. ABC. This is an ABC.

1559
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: They put this on ABC. Oh my god, oh my god,

1560
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: what do you got?

1561
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to take Tennessee begrudgingly, just because I just

1562
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 2: watched Iowa attempt to play college football against Now this

1563
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: is what happens though with Iowa. Right, their offense is terrible,

1564
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: and then who do they shut out? They shot like

1565
01:17:56,160 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: Kentucky recently in the ball game. They're just gonna magically

1566
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: scored the win a game twenty one to three or

1567
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 2: something like that. I'm gonna go, you know what, I'm

1568
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 2: gonna go with Iowa here and the truly sick pick.

1569
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: So we're gonna win this game. Yeah, I'm standing by it.

1570
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know how, but they're

1571
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna end. They're gonna throw a bunch of trick plays

1572
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: at them.

1573
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna score like thirty five points on Tennessee.

1574
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just what happens with Iowa football.

1575
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: You could definitely see a game in which Tennessee can't

1576
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,639
Speaker 1: run because I always got a good front, and Joe

1577
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: Milton throws four interceptions and Iowa scores a couple of touchdowns.

1578
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: You know what, screw it.

1579
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 2: I hate the pick I do.

1580
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: Iowa love confidence, Iowa low confidence. I don't know what

1581
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: the pointspur it is. I don't even want to look.

1582
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: It'll spook me. I'm with you. Verbo Fiesta Ball, Oregon

1583
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: eleven and two, Liberty thirteen and oh this is a

1584
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: New Year's Day one PM game on ESPN. Does does

1585
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: Oregon give a damn about this game? I saw bo

1586
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 1: Nix is playing, bow Knicks is playing.

1587
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna deal with opt outs, probably their best corner,

1588
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: their best defensive lineman, the best two defensive line maybe out,

1589
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: maybe their center, probably their number one receiver. You know nothing,

1590
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: None of this is official at the time of recording,

1591
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: but I don't know they've recruited really well, they're deep. Yeah,

1592
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 2: I think it's it's an interesting opportunity for a lot

1593
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 2: of youth in this game. So I think I believe

1594
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: Liberty played the worst schedule in America or the strength

1595
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 2: of schedule was kind of like one thirty two or something.

1596
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go Oregon, Big high confidence.

1597
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: Oregon, big high confidence. All right, let's close this guy out.

1598
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Let's get to the playoffs. Rose Bowl. Michigan favored by

1599
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: a point and a half. They're thirteen and zero scoring

1600
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: off against Alabama. Alabama twelve and one, notably, so made

1601
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: it into the playoff. This one's on New Year's Day,

1602
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: five pm, ESPM. Again, we are going to do a

1603
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: much more comprehensive breakdown of these playoff games when we

1604
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: get a little bit closer. So yeah, first off, though,

1605
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: you know the formula. The formula is this is low

1606
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: confidence regardless, So put like one, two or three points

1607
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: on it. Just enjoy it. Same for the other playoff game,

1608
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: same for the National Championship. Don't don't worry yourself with

1609
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,879
Speaker 1: these games. Just enjoy. Bear in mind, I picked Michigan

1610
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: as my national champion back in July. So I've got

1611
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: a vested interest here. I will be rooting for them.

1612
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: Because of that pick.

1613
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: Because of the pick. Okay, not because they're a likable

1614
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: team this year, right, because of circumstances, but just because

1615
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: I picked them. My gut was Alabama. My gut was

1616
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: Alabama outright because of how they stopped Georgia's running game.

1617
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: And I've said this a bunch of times now I've

1618
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit of pushback. Generally, the Georgia and

1619
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 1: Michigan experience, the philosophies on offense are kind of similar.

1620
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: You control the line, be physically dominant, be a run

1621
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: first team, control the clock if you have to. But

1622
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: you also have the efficient passing game that can keep

1623
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 1: the defense from over committing. In Michigan case, JJ's legs.

1624
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's legs I think are also a weapon here,

1625
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: and so I think we will see much more of

1626
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: that than we did with Carson Beck. Obviously they're just

1627
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: different players. Yeah, not the same systems, but but similar enough.

1628
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: Seeing Bama shut down the Georgia version on the ground

1629
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: caused me to rethink my stance on this. So I'm

1630
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: reserving my right to change my pick the closer we get.

1631
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: But right now I'm one confidence point on Alabama.

1632
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 2: I'm taking Alabama with medium confidence, and maybe that'll change

1633
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: as we do a longer preview of this matchup. But

1634
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. You give Jim Harbaugh a month to

1635
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 2: prepare for a playoff game and he doesn't win. No,

1636
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: you give Nick Saban a month to prepare for a

1637
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: playoff game and he wins almost as.

1638
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing the coaching matchup with Giving Nick Saban

1639
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: that much shine of prepare is always I don't know.

1640
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: It's tough to bet against that.

1641
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Alabama is amazing, but I don't know.

1642
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: A week ago we watched Michigan and JJ McCarthy lead

1643
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,879
Speaker 2: his offense to zero touchdown drives against Iowa really good defense.

1644
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: But I don't know. If we're talking about confidence, I

1645
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: don't have a ton of confidence right now in the

1646
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: Michigan offense. Like this is the name of the game

1647
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 2: is Winter Wonders. Like I mean, they scored, you're matching up.

1648
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: They scored.

1649
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: They scored like drives of five and six yards or something.

1650
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It was like after a fumble

1651
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: recovery and after a long punt return, those were the touchdowns.

1652
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 2: And so I'm just not in on where Michigan is

1653
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 2: as a finished product. And if the game is winter wonders,

1654
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: are you taking like Jermaine Burton and Isaiah Bond or

1655
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 2: are you taking Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson like I

1656
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: just they couldn't get it done against Ohio State consistently,

1657
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 2: they couldn't get done against Iowa, and you're asking me

1658
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 2: to do it against Alabama with a month I'm not there.

1659
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: So Alabama right now?

1660
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 1: Last playoff game, All Stage Sugar Bowl. This one's the

1661
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: final game on New Year's Day forty five, traditional time

1662
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: slot for the Sugar Bowl on ESPN. It is Washington

1663
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: thirteen and oh Texas twelve and one. Texas is a

1664
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. Here, Dan, what side

1665
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: you on? I'm done picking against Washington. Washington with medium confidence. Yeah,

1666
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to come back to this one. But Washington,

1667
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you said something that was very, very telling

1668
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 1: and very true on the last episode. Washington's the most

1669
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: likable team in this thing at this point. Doesn't mean

1670
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna win, doesn't mean they're gonna win, but they're

1671
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: fun for They're fun to root for. It because Michigan's

1672
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: got the whole cheating scandal. Alabama and Texas, depending on

1673
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: where you stand on those teams, you can make a

1674
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: case that neither should be in over Florida State, right.

1675
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: And you know, Bam is easy to root against because

1676
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: they win every year or every other year. Texas, there

1677
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that don't like Texas. But Washington,

1678
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: Washington sort of skates clear of all those other storylines.

1679
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 1: They've got. It's Michael Pennicks with controlled weather too. You

1680
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: got Michael Pennix, who's a Heisman finalist. You've got a

1681
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: fun offense in Washington in a way that you could

1682
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: argue none of these other offenses are nearly as fun.

1683
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: Beat them last year in the Alimibile, last year in

1684
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 2: the alimal Texas. Yeah.

1685
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm inclined to go points here if i'm when

1686
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: we get to the actual preview, I'm inclined to go

1687
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: Washington plus the four and a half. So I think

1688
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you. That brings us then to the final game.

1689
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: We don't know who's playing in this yet, Okay, we're

1690
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: just going to mention that there are a couple point

1691
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: spreads out right now. If there were a matchup between

1692
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: Alabama and Washington, Alabama will be favored by six. If

1693
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: it's Alabama against Texas, Alabama would be favored in that

1694
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: rematch by a two and a half point margin. And

1695
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: if it is Michigan from the other side of the bracket,

1696
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 1: it is Michigan minus three against Texas. If it is Washington,

1697
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: they are a six and a half point dog against

1698
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: the Wolverines. So obviously, the way that the point thing

1699
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: is set up, you can put one confidence point on

1700
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: that final game. Go through your pick you'll you'll see

1701
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: the way it works. Don't put any confidence points unless

1702
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: you are abundantly confident and who's going to be in

1703
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: that game and who's going to win. But that being said,

1704
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: that does it day. We made it through all forty

1705
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 1: three games. My voice is dying, Your voice is dying.

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Speaker 1: This is again a primer Playwinter Wonders dot Com. We

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Speaker 1: want you to get out there and get into our

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Speaker 1: bullpool and to close things out here just because it's

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Speaker 1: something that we do on this episode and because it's

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Speaker 1: something I'm going to continue to do all throughout the

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Speaker 1: remainder of Bull Season Dan versus the World, Time.

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Speaker 2: Versus the World, presented by Draft Kings Sports folks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hit my parlay last week. I saw that.

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Speaker 2: What did you call it? Again?

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Speaker 1: It was the big something, Yeah, the big blowout parlay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We've got Army this week, don't we? Yes, we do

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Speaker 1: got Army Navy this week. My only bet for this

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Speaker 1: game is this one, which I'm gonna call the All

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Speaker 1: American parlay or Stars and Stripes. Which do you like better?

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Speaker 1: Let's go stars and stars and stripes parlay? Yeah, Stars

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Speaker 1: and stripes. This is a three way parlay. The over

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: under for this game at time of recording is twenty

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Speaker 1: seven and a half points. They're playing this one up

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Speaker 1: at Foxborough. That's no points. That is nothing. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me if they go over. I get why it's

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Speaker 1: as low as it is. So here is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: The combination of these three bets. Army scoring over more

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Speaker 1: than one and a half touchdowns, Okay, just gotta score twice.

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Speaker 1: I think they can. Navy scoring more than nine and

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Speaker 1: a half points. Rivalry game. Not a great offense this year,

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Speaker 1: but fair enough could score more than nine and a

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Speaker 1: half points and Army money line. I think Army is

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Speaker 1: a better team. Okay, those are the only three things

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Speaker 1: that you need to have happen to get three and

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Speaker 1: a half to one odds on the Stars and Stripes parlay.

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Speaker 1: I love it. That seems straightforward. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Where are they playing this year?

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Speaker 1: They're playing at Foxborough? Okay, Massa Chusetts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good with it. I like that, ty Zazi.

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Speaker 1: We did it, Dan, we did the primer.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of games.

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Speaker 1: We made it the full way through. Playwinter Wonders dot com.

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Speaker 1: For those of you watched the video beat Us, beat Us.

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Speaker 1: I did want to throw one other thing out there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's secret verbal somebody with this link, okay, imposing we

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Speaker 1: start with Mike Golick Junior and continue.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I like that, So let's challenge them.

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Speaker 1: Let's get people to go out there. Tag Mike Golick

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Speaker 1: Junior out on x or Twitter. Zet him yeah with

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Speaker 1: the link to Playwinter Wonders dot com, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: challenge him, tell him that he doesn't have what it

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Speaker 1: to him because we like Mike. But of course send

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Speaker 1: him the link. We're gonna start challenging people in secret

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Speaker 1: verbal fashion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you so scared to tie? So it

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Speaker 2: is the more physical notreed aime person Ty Hildenbrand or

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Speaker 2: Mike Golick Junior.

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Speaker 1: Yeah again is Playwinterwonders dot com. Thank you for bearing

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Speaker 1: with us. Hopefully this primer is of use to you

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Speaker 1: before you go out there and make your picks. The

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Speaker 1: Bowl games start on December the sixteenth, so you've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of runway to go out there and do some

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Speaker 1: games one oh one. We'll talk to you soon. Stay solid.

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