1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 3: Oh, I've probably sounded better a few broadcasts in my life. 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 4: Who cares? 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 3: Suck it up here we go LFG live in Los Angeles. 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: may be listening. Thanks for making that's part of your day. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 3: We've got the Herd hierarchy. We've got Nick right, We'll 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: check in on the Cowboys, jmch Lakers one again. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, I am this is fascinating to me. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: So you and I think both we like business, you know, 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: we kind of into it, like especially the sports business. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: It's amazing to me what people go cheap on. Like 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: I've always said, like in life, transportation, toilet paper and 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: quarterbacks don't go cheap. You know, you can go cheap 21 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: on paper, towelsand water. But it's amazing to me the 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys are worth ten billion dollars. Now think about that, 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: So wouldn't you be willing to spend like more than 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: four or five million on the head coach. I mean, 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: I used to be critical of Dak Prescott. I'm sympathetic 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: for Dak Prescott. I feel bad for him. He needs 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: a life preserver. He's drowning with this team. The head 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: coaching staff for Dallas, it's just suboptimal. Bad night, no energy, 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: no juice. Offensive line got humiliated. Third most penalized team 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: in the league. I mean, they haven't won a game 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: where they didn't score thirty seven plus point second straight year. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: The defense is thirty first. I mean, I feel bad 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: for Dak. The NFL has far more poorly run teams 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: than well run teams. We all know the good ones 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: Seattle and Green Bay and Detroit and Baltimore and Buffalo 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: and Kansas City. We know the well run teams. When 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 3: I watched the Dallas Cowboys last night getting hammered at 38 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: home by a journeyman NFL quarterback, Dallas is a lot 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: closer to the Saints and the Titans and the Jets. 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, even right now, the Panthers have a pulse. 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: The Panthers beat Dallas this year, but I mean they 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: prioritize the wrong stuff. They won't spend money on a 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: big time coach. Folks, Mike Vrabel first year, eight nine 44 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: games in, they're a playoff team. Sean Payton most dead 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: cap money in league history. Doesn't matter playoffs for the 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. Jim Harbaugh took over a shipwreck playoff team. 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta pay him nineteen million bucks a year, 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: eighteen million a year, and you gotta give them power 49 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: in some control in personnel, and Jerry won't do it. 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: But the longer Brian Schottenheimer's the head coach, it's like, 51 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: we've all had a bad manager. 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: Ian. 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: I've been very, very lucky in my life. I've had 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: almost singularly great management. But we've all had a bad 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: boss somewhere. And the longer the bad boss is the boss, 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: the worse it gets. It's bad in the first month, 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: it's terrible after six months, and after a year you're like, 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: we need a new boss. But you could have had 59 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: Sean Payton, he used to be an assistant there. 60 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 4: You could have had Rabel. 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you had a lot of opportunities, but you 62 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: got to spend twenty million. 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: Dollars, but they're not willing to do it. 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing that I noticed with Dallas is 65 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: that you can't have any conditions in the NFL with winning. 66 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick was done. 67 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: When Bill Belichick said, there's just I only want to 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: coach certain players. When Bill Belichick said that, Bro, you're done. 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: You got to coach the best players, even if some 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: of them aren't perfect human beings. They're young kids, they 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: make a lot of money, they make mistakes. You can't 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: have conditions. Jerry has conditions. He's willing to win if 73 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: he has a say and he has control. That is 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: not the NFL. This isn't college football where there's like 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: the Ohio State roster is better than almost every team 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: they play every week. 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: That's not the way. It is. 78 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: A backup. Jacoby Brissett, he's been on six teams, the 79 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: Patriots twice walked into your building and rolled you. That's 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: because you have conditions. Belichick had conditions. You can't do 81 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: it that way. And the other thing is when Jimmy 82 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: Johnson was there and Parcels, there was friction. Friction's great, 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: it's how It creates clarity. Jimmy doesn't want friction from 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: his coach. He wants Jason Garrett, he wants Mike McCarthy, 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: he wants Brian Schottenheimer, he wants comfort. So the two 86 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: things you can't do as an owner in this league 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 3: is seek comfort with your coach. The good ones are 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: gonna push you off sometimes. The good ones are gonna 89 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: have an opinion. The good ones are gonna want to 90 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: have a say. I mean Brian Schottenheimer. You saw that 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: pickings penalty last night. He didn't want part of the friction. 92 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: And the other thing is you can't have conditions in 93 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: this league. I mean I for years I was tough 94 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: on Dak Prescott. I feel terrible for the guy. I 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: do I will acknowledge. I do think eventually the Mica 96 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: trade a year, you know, eight months from now, in 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: April or whatever it is, that will pay off. But 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: that that thing last night, that Dallas looked a lot 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: closer to the Titans and the Jets than they did 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: the Rams of the Eagles, of the Ravens and the Bills. 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: And here is Dak Prescott. 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 6: After knowing that you're better than that, and going out 103 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 6: there not and putting a performance close to your standard 104 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 6: or even the expectations or what you thought you could 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 6: do and expect it to do against this team. And 106 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 6: credit to those guys. That's the beauty of the NFL 107 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 6: games play stats. None of that's done on paper. You've 108 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 6: got to go out there and you've got to earn 109 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 6: it that that night with everything taken into account, and 110 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 6: they kicked our and both sides of the ball. 111 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, unbelievable. Here's the other thing. Sean Payton 112 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: used to be. You know, he was coaching on the 113 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: Cowboys on the offensive side. He left the Cowboys in 114 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: two thousand and six. And again, I know Sean pretty well. Okay, 115 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: Sean's got an opinion. Shaan's not easy. Sean is a 116 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: good guy. But Shawn's got an opinion. Bill Parcells has 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: an opinion. Jimmy Johnson has an opinion. They're gonna make 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: life uncomfortable. They're gonna confront you. Sean Payton's got an 119 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: eye and Jimmy, Sean and Parcells may in my opinion, 120 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: have the best sense of personnel. Those guys like are 121 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: really good on personnel. A lot of coaches aren't. And 122 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: he read admits that's not his thing. Some guys are 123 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: play designers and play callers. Those guys are personnel guys. Jimmy, 124 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy knows personnel, maybe as good as any coach that's 125 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: ever now. Jim Harball, right out of college, also knows personnel. 126 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: Peyton's good with personnel. You are all banging on that 127 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Harvey pick up in the second round. He's really good. 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 3: And they got dead cap money everywhere, and he's banging. 129 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: He's hitting and hitting and hitting and hitting with his 130 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: GM on these players. But Peyton left in two thousand 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: and six. Since then, and by the way, he went 132 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: to the worst team in the league. So Sean Payne 133 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: went to the worst team in the league, and then 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: he went to Denver with the worst dead cap money. 135 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,679 Speaker 3: Sean Payne's got nine playoff wins since then. Jerah has four. 136 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: You gotta seek discomfort in any business now. Jerry, to 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: his credit, is acknowledging it. But listen carefully. After last 138 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 3: night's embarrassing debacle, there's enough. 139 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: Of tensity here really, you don't have to add just 140 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: anger to it. I don't know where that feeling is. 141 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: It's somewhere. I'm pretty frustrated, right now with how we 142 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 5: got here, my decision making relative to the things that 143 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: go ONWN. You know the way we dial it up 144 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: here and there's no dodging looking at in the mirror. 145 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: Appreciate the candor, appreciate the honesty, but it is a 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: mirror is what they need. 147 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: That was embarrassing. 148 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: And I got to say this for Jacoby Brissett, and 149 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: I love these reclamation stories, I really do. I remember 150 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 3: years and years ago Parcels was telling everybody, I love 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: this kid named Jacoby Brissette. I love him. He's just 152 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: a pro. I really appreciate football players. They may not 153 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: be stars, but they love the game and they bounce 154 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 3: around the league. And Jacoby Brissett, by the way, they 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: are six point better in Arizona when he plays over 156 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. 157 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 4: It's been a bad year for small quarterbacks. 158 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Tua and Kyler Murray since twenty nineteen have 159 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: one playoff win. And people were trying to convince me 160 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: a Johnny Manzell, and I said, get out of here, 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: and Dylan Gabriel get out of here. Jacobyset, Oh what 162 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: a shock. Marvin Harrison on the same day complained he 163 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: couldn't watch Arizona's offense because his son wasn't getting the ball. 164 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison as his best game as a pro and 165 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: the best move in the red zone by any receiver 166 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: this year. 167 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 4: So I got nothing against Kyler Murray. I've met him. 168 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: I like him. 169 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: I think he's the most elusive young quarterback I've ever seen, 170 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: even more so than Russell Wilson. And I bought into it, 171 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: but you know, we got five years here. He hadn't 172 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: been a pro bowler, he hadn't had a passer rating 173 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: over one hundred. 174 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. 175 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't think he loves football, and I don't think 176 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: that's a hot take. I'm the owner of Arizona, I 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: know the former GM. I think he's super talented, but 178 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: this has been a referendum year. Size matters. I'm looking 179 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: at all these college quarterbacks. Mendoza six', Five Dante moore 180 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: six two and a, half sixty, three these college. Quarterbacks 181 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: the old Mis kid's, good small but, good but most 182 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: of them are six one and a, half six two 183 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 3: and a, half six three and a. 184 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: Half and that's the. Key we've tried to. 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: Convince ourselves that size doesn't. Matter but when you got 186 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: McBride And harris and you need to deliver the ball 187 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: over the middle of the, field those guys need the ball. 188 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: On the run. 189 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: Underneath AND i, MEAN i Just i'm watching him last. 190 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: NIGHT i Think arizona reminds me Of indianapolis last. Year 191 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: everybody was crushing the coach in THE gm AND i see. 192 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: TALENT i Think arizona's got. Dudes i've been saying this 193 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: for two. 194 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 4: Years Like. Colts The colts have. 195 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Dudes they didn't have a, quarterback so you Put Jacoby brissett, 196 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 3: in who's a bounce around the league, journeyman Just Jacoby, 197 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: brissett and they're worth almost a touchdown more a. GAME 198 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: i mean it feels, like now here's THE i will, 199 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: Say Kyler murray is. Movable you don't have to pay. 200 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: Him there's no guaranteed. MONEY i, think is it after next? 201 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: Year there's no guaranteed. Money so he's, movable AND i 202 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: don't think the BEST gms in the legue will go after. 203 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: Him but he's super. Talented you, know if you're in 204 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 3: chaos or you're, desperate you'll go get. Him but the coach, 205 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: says after that really impressive, win on the row standalone 206 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: game That brissette was, Good But kyler's the. 207 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 7: GUY i thought he played, well thought he. Operated we 208 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 7: had one protection issue that's on me us. Coaches we've 209 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 7: got to do a better job with that with some. 210 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 7: Protection and then on, one you, know, sack they made 211 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 7: it a little adjustment with the play that were. In 212 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 7: it was a good job By flu to make the adjustment. 213 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 7: There SO i just got to keep him clean and 214 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 7: he shows how you can deliver the. 215 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: Football, Well kyler's still be your stating quarterback from Your. 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: Giant nothing's changed on. 217 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: That, yeah nothing's changed except the. Results who are we fooling? 218 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: Here you got to stop, PROTECTING i mean you really. 219 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: Do it's you, know it's like In. 220 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 3: INDIANAPOLIS i feel Like i'm watching The colts WHERE i 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: for two YEARS i kept Defending Chris. 222 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: Ballard i'm watching the. 223 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 3: GAMES i like their, players they just don't have the 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 3: guy to distribute it accurately. Enough and we've been five 225 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: years here with the passer rating under one, hundred and 226 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: it just seemed like to, Me Jacoby brissett unlocks that 227 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: offense a little. 228 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: Bit so there you, go J. 229 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: MAC i there are some THINGS i cannot get over 230 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: heard hierarchy at the top of next. 231 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: HOUR i don't know what to do with The. 232 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: PACKERS i don't know WHAT i don't know what to 233 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: do With Kansas. 234 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 8: City do The packers have the widest range of outcomes this? 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 8: Season they could lose in the first, round they could 236 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 8: win The. 237 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: Super you know WHAT i was saying to the staff 238 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: this morning through this nasally, voice is That Matt lafleur 239 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: reminds me a little Of Lincoln riley AT. USC i 240 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: think they're both really. SMART i think THEY'RE i think 241 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: they love to run the ball. FIRST i think they're 242 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: very good at developing. Quarterbacks but SOMETIMES i, question With Lincoln, 243 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: riley what's the identity OF usc? Football and with right 244 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: now with Green, bay what is my? 245 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: Question? 246 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: What what are The packers they? Got, dudes don't tell 247 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Me greena didn't have, talent AND i don't want to 248 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: hear they're. Young seattle's almost as, young And seattle's on a. 249 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Heater seattle looks, like honestly a top three or four 250 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: team in the. 251 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 8: League they Got arizona this week in what is a scary, 252 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 8: game right Because seattle looks like the best team in The. 253 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 8: League what has happened to all the quarterbacks of the 254 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,479 Speaker 8: best teams in the league. 255 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 4: The last like four? 256 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 8: Weeks baker, loses, Right Daniel jones, Loses Patrick mahones. Loses 257 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 8: Think seattle's got to be on upset alert this week 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 8: against suddenly Mighty. 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Arm you're, like, yeah like he's gonna give 277 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: us twenty eight good. 278 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: Stars he's a good. 279 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: Pitcher he may not Be, Clayton kershaw Or, yoshi but 280 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: he's a good. Pitcher same in, basketball you like a 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: guy or you. Don't very rarely do you change your 282 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: opinion quickly on AN nba player or A Major League baseball. 283 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: Player football is different because of the component of the 284 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: regulated level of violence is that you can like a, 285 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: guy but if he's always, hurt he doesn't do you any. 286 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: Good Like Malik neighbors for The New York giants is. 287 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: Good he's hurt too. Much he's not a top ten. 288 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: RECEIVER i don't care how talented he. Is he's hurt too. 289 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Much AND i was thinking about. This Ben johnson was 290 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: talking About Caleb. Williams if you asked me a year 291 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: ago this, QUESTION i have a totally different. Answer but 292 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: if you told me, TODAY i have got a, ride 293 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: ride or die for the next four to five years 294 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: With Caleb williams of The bears Or Jaden, DANIELS i 295 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 3: would Take Caleb. Williams, well How jaden's been hurt four. 296 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: Times jayden's not Available caleb is a, bigger, stronger more, 297 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: physical trunkier. Athlete and, so by the, Way Jaden DANIELS 298 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: nfl career thirty three, touchdowns eleven. Picks you want to 299 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: know What CALEB'S nfl career, is thirty two, touchdowns ten. 300 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: Picks and the difference Is Jaden daniels walked into this 301 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: league and it was a do. Over there was all 302 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: this newness IN dc and he was part of. It 303 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 3: it was, fresh it was, new it was. Ascending that's 304 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: not what happened For Caleb. Williams he walked into the 305 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: middle of a home renovation and they were on the 306 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: second project. Manager it wasn't going well, okay like there 307 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: were holes. Everywhere there was some fraud going on the home. 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: Renovation matty Eber flus and his cartoon coaching. 309 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: Staff that's what he. 310 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: Inherited and Remember caleb did not start nearly as many 311 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: games As Jayden. Daniels Caleb williams came in very Very 312 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: he had twenty two fewer starts Than Jayden. 313 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: Daniels So jayden comes in with a lot more. 314 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: Starts he's in THE, sec has MORE nfl, bodies and 315 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: then he gets this Cliff kingsbury And Dan quinn in 316 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: the newness And terry. McLaurin but now you look today 317 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: and you got a ride or die and you're, Like 318 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: caleb dunn't tony. Picks caleb's always. Healthy he's a, bigger, 319 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: thicker stronger. Athlete AND i, mean right, now The, bears 320 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: this is the Best bears offense since nineteen. 321 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: Eighty three through nine. 322 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: Games and we can nitpick, here but the kid has 323 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: developed a relationship With Roma. Dunze right, now they're number 324 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: one in THE nfl in big plays per. 325 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: Game it's A Sam donald. Thing it's An Andrew luck. 326 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: Thing people used to pick it And Andrew luck because 327 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: of the, picks and they'd pick On Sam. Darnold Sam 328 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: donald is a big play. Quarterback he is a big play. 329 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: Quarterback Caleb williams same. Thing it's not always he can 330 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: miss the. Layups he's not highly accurate all the. Time 331 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: but it's just in THE nfl my. OPINION i, mean 332 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Like Drake may at the end of last, year you're, like, 333 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: yeah there's something. There then four games in With, vrabel you're, like, 334 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: oh that's a star like. That that is a top 335 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: seven quarterback in the. League, eventually and that's what football 336 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: does to. Us AND i Like Jayden daniels a, lot 337 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: but now we got four injuries in two. Years and 338 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: that was the primary concern With Jaden daniels in. College 339 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: So i've said this many. Times when the primary concern 340 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: in college becomes the primary concern in THE, nfl you got. 341 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 4: Trouble. 342 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: Now caleb's primary issue is he doesn't play in. Structure, 343 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: Well axley's playing more in structure and he's cut his 344 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: sacks in, half so he's doing a better. JOB i 345 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: don't think he's a super accurate. Guy he'll get, better 346 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: but he's a Little Cam newton. Here he's just got 347 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: so much damn firepower and so much horsepower that sometimes 348 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: he's so amped up he'll miss the. Layups But Ben 349 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: johnson on that wild win over The, bengals he said 350 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: that was an offensive. 351 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 11: Win there were times this year THAT i felt like 352 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 11: we won in spite of the, offense and this was 353 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 11: probably the first TIME i felt like the offense had 354 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 11: had a big say in us winning that, game and 355 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 11: so that was that was encouraging to, me just for that. 356 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: Phase and it's not necessarily flip. Floppy there is A 357 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: there's a difference between you, know a dog ate my, 358 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: homework that's an, excuse or, yeah somebody t boned the 359 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: school bus on the. Way the kids were all. Late 360 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: they're all, okay but they were late to. School that's. 361 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: Different the reality is With caleb is fewer college starts 362 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: goes To chicago hot mess of a coaching. Staff that's 363 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: a that's a real bonafide reason for. Struggling But i'm 364 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: watching him right, now and if you had to give 365 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: one word description of every one of the young quarterbacks 366 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: For Drake, may you would say, Hit Bo, nicks HIT jj, 367 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: McCarthy somewhere between shaky and, Undetermined MICHAEL pennockx. Unsure caleb 368 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: kind of feels like a. Hit it's not always, pretty 369 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: but it's trending. There Danny parkins talked about this yesterday 370 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: on our. 371 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 12: Show he had to go through Firing Matt eberflus and 372 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 12: Firing Shane waldron and the whole fiasco of last. Year 373 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 12: but they upgraded the offensive, line they upgraded his, weapons 374 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 12: they upgraded his, coach who happened to also be his play, 375 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 12: caller and he's seeing. 376 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Growth you mentioned the. 377 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 12: Sacks he has what fourteen sacks taken in eight. Weeks 378 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 12: he took sixty eight sacks last. YEAR i don't need 379 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 12: to give you anything else beyond that and its. 380 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: Improvement caleb's a. 381 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 12: Gamer that's his third come from behind drive in the 382 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 12: fourth quarter in his last five. Games so is he 383 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 12: perfect or a finished? Product far from. It but he's 384 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 12: really talented and he's getting better week by. 385 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: WEEK. 386 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: Yep Heard hierarchy top Of Next hour With nick Right 387 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: Matt mosley talking some cowboys. 388 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: Before the end of this. 389 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: HOUR a lot of stuff, today but it kind of 390 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: feels like we're trending toward a. HIT i know it's, 391 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: early but there are times when you get a bad. 392 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: Boss it's your first job out of, college, right and 393 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: maybe your son or daughter you're, listening you're a. Dad 394 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: the first job out of college is the company's not real, 395 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: good and you're maybe your son or daughters a little. 396 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: Immature they definitely, need you, know a really nice landing 397 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: spot in their first, job and they don't get. It 398 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: you can't bail on. PEOPLE i, Mean Sam darnold's a 399 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 3: great example of. That Baker mayfield be very careful about 400 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: bailing on quarterbacks in a league where there's never been 401 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: more good offensive, coaching And caleb finally got. Some it 402 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: was a second, coach but he finally got. 403 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 4: SOME J mack with the. News, no, no. 404 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 5: Turn on the. 405 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 8: News this is the herdline. News let's go that Right 406 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 8: lyons lost to The. Vikings come and they were coming 407 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 8: out of the bye. Week they were considered one of 408 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 8: the better teams in the, league and they kind of 409 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: got smashed at home By. Minnesota Jared goff got beat 410 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 8: up badly talking to the media after the. Game Dan 411 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 8: campbell took responsibility for the team's lack of. 412 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 13: Preparedness we did everything we needed to do to uh 413 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 13: to lose that. Game we made every critical airy you 414 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 13: needed to at the right time to lose. 415 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 5: It perfect. 416 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 13: Storm you, know when you don't play well in all three, 417 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 13: phases that falls on the head. Coach that's. Me SO 418 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 13: i did not have him ready coming out of a 419 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 13: Bye you know we. Weren't we made too many cretical. 420 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 5: Errors. 421 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 13: Man. 422 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: YEAH I detroit's one of my favorite picks of the 423 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 3: week Against, washington a really good team that had a 424 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: really bad home loss in. Division you know what we always, 425 00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: say like like commanders now trade, deadline what's the commander's 426 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: locker room like, Today knowing ten guys in that locker 427 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: room are not sure the team wants to keep. Them 428 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: that's not a good week of practice for the commander's old. 429 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: Team beat. 430 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: UP i mean for the next several, hours their commander 431 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: players talking to their agents' wives LIKE i may be 432 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: out of. Town So detroit's got a, galvanized, focused angry locker. 433 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: Room the commanders is all sorts of, questions, enigmatic and 434 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: players don't know if they'll be with the commanders in an. 435 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: Hour so let me. 436 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 8: Focus, Yeah washington's. Cooked let's focus on The lions for a. 437 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 8: Second so we've seen this. Season i'll have some data 438 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 8: for you later in the. Week teams coming off Of 439 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 8: by this season have, roared they've, ripped they've been. Amazing 440 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 8: we just saw The cardinals come off of buy and 441 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 8: just they were dominant for three plus. 442 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: Quarters The rams off Of by. 443 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 8: Unbelievable why did Didn't campbell flop so badly off a? 444 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: Bike is he? 445 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 3: Okay so, no, no, no, No he's a total. Grinder 446 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 3: so this is a very legitimate. Question there are two 447 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: types of code coaches in THE, nfl primarily. 448 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: CEOs they're not scheme. 449 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: Gurus shanahan is Okay, Shanahan Andy, reid they're great schemes and. 450 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: CEOs when you give the scheme guys like McVeigh an extra, 451 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: week it Is Sean. 452 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 4: Payton you're. 453 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: Cooked but if you give the, CEOs the, yellers the 454 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: guys that are mostly about physiology and psychology and, presence 455 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: what do they do with the extra. Time so my 456 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 3: feeling is there are certain. TEAMS i love offensive coaches 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: off a bye IF i think they're scheme guys because 458 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: they'll bring in six new. Looks but if it's just, 459 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: hey you, Know Mike tomlin's not a scheme, guys a, 460 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 3: Motivator Dan campbell same, thing there's nothing wrong with. That 461 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 3: BUT i think if you look At detroit and you're, 462 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: like well what? Happened, WELL i mean the truth is 463 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: the intensity is the key For Dan campbell and in 464 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: the bye week lost. It if you watch that, game 465 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 3: like The cowboys last night were, flat they were, Flat 466 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: detroit was. 467 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: Flat great. 468 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 8: POINTS a couple of notes, Here Jared goff got pressured thirty. 469 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: Times oh, no, no, No. 470 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: Zack Five Ti. 471 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: CRAB i haven't Seen detroit's holne get worked like. 472 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: That in two. YEARS i know we Like Jamir gibbs a. 473 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: Lot this stat blew my. 474 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 8: Mind so he had to pick up the blitz a 475 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 8: lot Because minnesota And flora's are. Blitzing he had to 476 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 8: pick up the blitz sixteen. Times seven of them he 477 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 8: gave up. Pressures so basically fifty to. Fifty If Jamiir 478 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 8: gibbs was going to pick up the, blitz, right that 479 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 8: is not a good sign going. 480 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: Forward the, smart good, teams The. 481 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 8: Rams come playoff, time are going to see that and be, like, 482 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 8: Hey gibbs can't blitz pick up the colder the weather. 483 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: Dads. 484 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: Okay the closer we get Toward thanksgiving and, beyond coaching 485 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: matters a. Lot everybody now has all sorts of. Film 486 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: all these teams have. Tendencies the margins thin out. Right 487 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: the good teams at the trade deadline get a little 488 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: better with acquisition. Acquisitions so this is now where coaching. 489 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: Matters belichick's best month was Always december And. January his 490 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: weakest Was. September so this is and that's been the 491 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: question With Dan. Campbell we Know Mike, tomlin by the, 492 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: way more of a, motivator wires team so. 493 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 4: Bad late in the. 494 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: Season you can only motivate and do the Raw ros 495 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: stuff for so. 496 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: Long So tomlin's highly. 497 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: Effective and Then december hits and everybody's heard the stories 498 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: and the Raw ros, stuff and they're not buttoned. 499 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 4: Up Scheme. 500 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Wae that's Why aaron's so valuable to this. Team Is 501 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: aaron's good on the. 502 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 8: Scheme and by the, Way Dan, campbell it just reminded 503 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 8: me listening to. You they had to buy Against washington 504 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 8: and the playoffs come out and get absolutely. 505 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: Just literally the worst game of the. Year so, again 506 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: buys don't matter for certain. Coaches, yes let's move on 507 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 3: to The. Rams. COLIN i think you AND i both 508 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: like Their Super bowl odds a. 509 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 8: Lot they had an impressive showing against the safety Careful 510 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 8: Huka naku got diged up McVeigh taking responsibility for calling 511 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 8: an end around in the red. 512 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: Zone here we. 513 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 14: GO i feel, sick you, know because you know that 514 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 14: that fourth down situation where he's getting kind of a 515 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 14: side shot and he's so good at, that and that's 516 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 14: such an important, situation and you're, saying, damn you know 517 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 14: you you leave him susceptible to a great player pursuing 518 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 14: from an inside out location that gives him a good. 519 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: Shot so that's not on anything. Him that's more on 520 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: the play. 521 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: Call and, YEAH i think the game of the. Week 522 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: by the way he, Listened pooka gets banged. UP i 523 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: also Think i'm not he's tough. 524 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: Though he's Like brandon ayuk out a. 525 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: Year, no, no, no, no, no he's even weeks like super physical. 526 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 4: Players this got. Tough i'm gonna tell you something right. 527 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 3: Now my my Inclination niners keep it close division. Rival 528 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: by the, way with The rams, ascending this game arguably 529 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: means more to The. 530 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: Niners, Well niners beat him last. Time, well that's Why. 531 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying The niners need to sweep this series to 532 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: be a playoff. Team rams. Don't, yeah look at The 533 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: rams schedule going. 534 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 8: FORWARD i can't do anything with The niners UNTIL i 535 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 8: know injury. Situation But i'll tell you, this if they 536 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 8: can't Pressure stafford and he's sitting back there in a 537 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 8: tuxedo throwing, passes they're not stopping this. Offense SO i 538 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 8: cannot wait for this. GAME i don't Think i'm gonna bet, 539 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 8: it BUT. 540 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 3: I look at That rams. Schedule got a Couple arizonas. 541 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: Late ca no oh, no not To Kobe. Vers, No 542 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: i'm saying The. 543 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: Rams if You're San, francisco you have to beat them 544 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: now because The rams got a lot of laps down the. 545 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: Stretch that is. 546 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 8: Interesting final, Story colin is The Pittsburgh. Steelers, yes we 547 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 8: gotta say nice things about. 548 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: Them. 549 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: Colin big win over the league Leading. 550 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 8: Colts before the, Game pittsburgh honored Their Super bowl forty 551 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 8: champs And Ben roethlisberger was in, attendance as well As Jerome. 552 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 8: Metis the bus after the, game listen to What Aaron rodgers, 553 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 8: said major praise For Big. 554 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 9: Ben i've Known ben for years and years and, years 555 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 9: going back to you, know the early tie, days and 556 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 9: BUT i enjoyed watching player with, years you, know because 557 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 9: he wasn't the fastest, guy but he's hard to take. 558 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 9: Down he's always swinging that ball, around h keeping the 559 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 9: keeping the plays. Alive and it's. Fun this is you, 560 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 9: know this is a Big Big ben. Team you. Know 561 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 9: i'm just happy to be be a part of the. 562 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: Organization though this game IS i have no. Play first of, 563 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: All joe all out for the, year so you GOT. 564 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: Tj watt on the end and The chargers are missing 565 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: both their. Tackles how is this line? 566 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 4: Three what AM i? MISSING i do you talk? 567 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: About i've said that's about The texans this week when 568 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: they Played who did The texans play this? 569 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 4: Week? 570 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: DENVER i, said stay. AWAY i have no beat on. 571 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: IT i still think IF. C. J stroud doesn't get knocked, 572 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Out texans probably could win that. GAME i have no. 573 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: BEAT i have not The chargers are a team this 574 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: year because of their tackle. Situation i've rarely put him 575 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: in the blazing. Five both their tackles got hurt against The. 576 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: Titans well Of herbert got dropp dropped five. 577 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: Times. 578 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 8: Colin someone's telling me that this could be a spot 579 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 8: where seventy percent of the audience. 580 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 4: Is so Far Pittsburgh. 581 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 8: Steelers oh, yeah it's gonna be a tough, one big 582 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 8: week out here IN. 583 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: La you got so far For. 584 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 8: Chargers you GOT usc at home On. FRIDAY i may 585 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 8: go to that GAME Usc Northwestern wemby in. Town you 586 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 8: got The World series wrapped. 587 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: Up good time to BE i said it. Yesterday there's 588 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: no reason to tear down the parade. Route there'll be 589 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: a couple more teams going through. It In Los. Angeles 590 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: it's a good time to be AN la sports. Fan 591 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: it really is good, ownership smart. OWNERSHIP J mack with 592 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: a News, well that's the, news. 593 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: And thanks for stopping by the. 594 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: Line sometimes there's a big story AND i don't think 595 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 3: it's even getting as much play as it. 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Guess mostly that's where you're at right. 611 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: Now by the, way you don't have to pat me 612 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: on the back or, anything But i'm playing hurt, today 613 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: But i'm gonna it's gonna be a quality. 614 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: Start i'm gonna go six. 615 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Innings so there's no reason to throw any sympathy my 616 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: way BECAUSE i know you would do the same. Thing 617 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: but how are You let's, Start let's start after that? 618 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: Debacle how are, You matt doing? 619 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 10: Fine, yeah you're No. Yamamoto you're not going to go 620 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 10: the distance in this, one. 621 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: Buddy it is great to be with, you and got. 622 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 10: A couple hours of sleep last night after Another cowboys just. 623 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 10: Mess and you thought this thing was going to be 624 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 10: hover around five. Hundred this thing looks so bad right. 625 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 10: NOW i DON'T i don't know if they ever touched 626 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 10: five hundred. AGAIN i, mean it's really. 627 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: Bad we've Watched Sean, Payton Mike, rabele And Jim harbaugh 628 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: take bigger messes Than. Dallas mike McCarthy did not Leave 629 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: dallas a. Mess the offense was, fine But jerry, goes you, 630 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: Know jerry goes discount, coach WHICH i don't. Understand when 631 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: you're a ten billion dollar, organization you're paying the, coach you, 632 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: know thirty percent below the going rate for a top, 633 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 3: coach or maybe fifty percent. 634 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: Below you talk to me about this one. Time why is? 635 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 10: That, well he doesn't Respect and it goes all the 636 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 10: way back To jimmy when he said he, Could, hey you, 637 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 10: know any coach could lead this team to the Super. 638 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 10: Bowl and he just hates the only time he spit 639 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 10: big and brought in a huge name With Bill, parcells 640 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 10: and he's admitted that that was to get that stadium. 641 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 10: Built so you, know the thought Like Ben johnson At 642 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 10: chicago in his first time as a head coach is 643 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 10: making somewhere in what the eleven to thirteen million dollars 644 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 10: a year, Range that just that's that Sickens. Jerry he 645 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 10: can't the thought of a guy who's never done it. 646 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: Making that much. 647 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 10: Money even to this, day even him being a billionaire 648 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 10: and talking to The Wall Street journal about how he 649 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 10: just made a billion dollar bet on natural, gas that's 650 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 10: that still kills. Him so there's just not the respect. 651 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 10: LEVEL i think every time there's A cowboys, opening you, think, 652 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 10: oh could he go back To Sean, paton could he 653 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 10: go To, harbor could he go to somebody? Big could 654 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 10: he go To? Belichick? No, no those people are too 655 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 10: strong of. Personalities you always have to find A shottenheimer 656 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 10: who makes him feel. Comfortable and then you see, AGAIN 657 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 10: i don't put a lot of this On Brian, schottenheimer 658 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 10: but it's it's a it's very embarrassing what he's ended up. 659 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 10: With and he left this defensive coordinator in this head 660 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 10: coach with no pass, rush no run, defense no SECONDARY i, 661 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 10: mean it's a it's a bad, thing but but that's the. 662 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 10: Deal he's just there's an utter sort of lack of 663 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 10: respect for for all of coaching to which is why 664 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 10: he just rolls through him and has a new defensive 665 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 10: coordinator every. Year there's no, continuity like in a in a, 666 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 10: sense he's sort of the Anti, steelers which is like 667 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 10: that family's all about. Continuity maybe too much about, continuity But, 668 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 10: Jerry jerry can't do. 669 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: That he's he loves to make. 670 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 10: Changes and point at all the shiny new things and 671 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 10: like even, today you know what was he doing? 672 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: Yesterday we got a? Trade we got a? Trade watch our? 673 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: Trade who is? 674 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 10: It, Okay Logan wills another aging linebacker to go along 675 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 10: with other aging linebackers on the team that can't, tackle 676 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 10: AND i Mean Logan wilson got, Benched SO i, MEAN 677 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 10: i don't know is this supposed to Inspire cowboys? 678 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 2: FANS i don't think. 679 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: So so you, Know i've said they don't need a 680 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 3: quarterback and they have two first round. Picks there's a 681 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: lot of us that believe on the outside That. Jerry you, 682 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: know a lot of times there's a sense that the 683 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: owner has Like Steve bushati In, baltimore really does have 684 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 3: a lot of say with, personnel but he hides he 685 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 3: doesn't need the vanity of, it but he. Does he 686 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: makes a lot of decisions In, baltimore but he doesn't 687 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 3: put himself out. There and then there's other owners like 688 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: The hunt family that let their guys run the. Show 689 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: they have two first round picks next. Year how much 690 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 3: of an impact Does jerry have on? Those is It 691 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: steven or is It Jerry who's going to get? EMOTIONAL i, 692 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 3: mean does he make the vinyl call on those? 693 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 10: Picks he always has the final, say although he can 694 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 10: be talked out of. Things, famously there was The Johnny 695 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 10: man's right he wanted, him he was upset that And 696 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 10: steven basically jumped in front of that when and wouldn't 697 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 10: let him do, that and they ended up with guy's 698 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 10: going to be in The hall Of fame as a 699 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 10: as offensive. Lineman so he does have the final, say 700 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 10: he does listen to people more than you would Think will, 701 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 10: McLay who's a real good personnel. 702 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: MAN i, mean and they hit on some. 703 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 10: PICKS i mean there's really there's really no reason to 704 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 10: think that with four first round picks over the next 705 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 10: two years that they're. 706 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: Just going to like whiff on them. All they don't do. 707 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 10: That it's more about like getting to the season never, 708 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 10: prepared you. Know and then of course this, famously infamously 709 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 10: he let this thing With micah get, personal AND i, 710 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 10: mean you know you saw the result last. 711 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: NIGHT i mean you Saw Jacoby, Brissett. 712 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 10: Like IF i read off the quarterbacks they've played this 713 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 10: season and even the last two years with this, defense 714 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 10: like they've gotten lucky a. Lot they either knock a 715 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 10: quarterback out or get to play a second, round or 716 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 10: get to play a. Backup and these guys still throw 717 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 10: all over. THEM i, mean they they're, lucky and they 718 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 10: still can't they still can't take advantage of. IT i 719 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 10: mean you had, thought, Oh Jacoby, brissett That's jerry told 720 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 10: me last. Night he's, like, WELL i was so glad 721 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 10: he was very upfront with. ME i was, LIKE i, 722 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 10: mean you thought you caught a break Avoiding Kyler. Murray he's, 723 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 10: like you're, RIGHT i thought this was going to be 724 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 10: a good. Thing last Night jerry was just. LOST i 725 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 10: kind of feel Like jerry is going into this buy 726 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 10: like looking for somebody to, Fire LIKE i don't know 727 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 10: who it's going to, be but like he's he had 728 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 10: that kind of look in his, eye like because he's 729 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 10: never going to fire. Himself so he has to do 730 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 10: other things and do things that grab. Attention and he 731 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 10: hates the thought of not playing because he won't be 732 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 10: able to. 733 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 2: Talk he won't be able TO i, Mean i'm, serious 734 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: you'll do some. 735 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 10: SHOWS i mean, literally if you wanted him on this, Afternoon, 736 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 10: colin he'd jump on with. YOU i mean, seriously he 737 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 10: would find the nearest laptop and jump on with. You 738 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 10: he cannot stand the bye week because he's out of 739 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 10: the picture for a, week and so like he'll do 740 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 10: something this weekend during the, games whether it's a, firing 741 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 10: whether it's a position coach getting thrown, overboard he'll do 742 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 10: something because right, now that's how much he craves, attention 743 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 10: because he knows the team is in really bad. 744 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 3: Shape, OKAY i want to ask you a question before 745 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: we go On Arch. Manning he had a great game 746 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: and again a lot of build. Up, SORRY i Mean texas, 747 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: coaches if they lose a, game they're always on the hot. 748 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: Seat where Is texas now in terms of potential? 749 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: Playoff Arch? 750 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 3: Manning what is the feel in your state On Arch 751 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 3: sark going forward rest of this? 752 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 10: Year, WELL i THINK i think it's back up over 753 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 10: like thirty percent chance of getting. IN i, Mean i'm 754 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 10: glad after all the heat he, took the he's playing 755 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 10: a little bit. 756 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: BETTER i, mean it is. 757 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 10: Funny we've come to a point now where we're squeaking 758 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 10: out a win At vandy at home is some kind 759 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 10: of amazing. Thing but Then Clark lee's done a good 760 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 10: job With. Vandy i'm just glad to see that he's 761 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 10: actually making some, froe playing with some. Confidence and so, 762 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 10: yeah they're in the. MIX i, mean the funny thing is. 763 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: They're they're this. 764 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 10: Year they're the little brother Little brother in the, state 765 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 10: right and they host they Host TEXAS a AND m 766 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 10: to finish this season on The friday night After thanksgiving and. 767 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: More that's gonna be. 768 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 10: Fun because that's going to be a massive crowd and 769 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 10: the The aggies. 770 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 2: Could come in there with such a. 771 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 10: Swagger there you, Know, Indiana, Ohio, STATE a AND. M 772 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 10: that's the those are the three and they're above everybody. 773 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: Else, ALABAMA i, guess is not far. 774 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 10: Behind but Now texas Is texas is a couple of 775 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 10: tiers behind. That but if they, well If texas keeps 776 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 10: winning AND a AND m keeps, winning that right there 777 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 10: a massive in state rivalry that had a few years, 778 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 10: off that's gonna be that's gonna be. 779 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 2: Great and uh. 780 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 10: And, honestly that's the coach That Mike oko is not 781 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 10: getting enough. Attention that's the coach In texas right. Now 782 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 10: that Is it's. Remarkable it's like The aggies have stumbled 783 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 10: into getting the right, coach the de man for the. 784 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 10: Moment and uh, yeah but that that could end up 785 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 10: being an incredible. Matchup BUT i think people are back to, 786 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,720 Speaker 10: thinking Oh, texas look. 787 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: At, that look at. 788 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 10: That BUT i would, say LIKE a AND m right, 789 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 10: now playoff, wise they're, in, right they're ninety seven percent 790 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 10: in Where texas has still got Some they got a 791 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 10: lot of stuff to accomplish before they get in. 792 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: There all, Right Matt, Mosley Cowboy Insider Doom Day. PODCAST 793 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 3: i appreciate, It. Matt we have some breaking. News i'm 794 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 3: going to get to my. Man thank you very. Much 795 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: as always late noticetopping by The. 796 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: Herd you bet good to be with. 797 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: You here we, Go Adam. Schefter we've GOT nfl it's 798 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 3: the trade. Deadline this is. Pricey The colts are trading 799 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: two first round picks to The New York jets to 800 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 3: Get Sauce. Gardner, NOW i, mean the cultu are a 801 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 3: very good. Team this weekend they get, hammered and their takeaway, is, 802 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 3: listen we got our, roster we got our, quarterback we 803 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: got OUR o, line we Got, warren we Got, pittman 804 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: we Have. 805 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: Taylor we don't have a we don't have a. 806 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 3: Corner so they're gonna say the culture, saying, listen we got. 807 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 4: The, roster we got the, coach we got. Everything we 808 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: don't have a. 809 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 3: CORNER i will also tell you there is a feeling 810 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 3: AMONG nfl execus there is a corner shortage in the. 811 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 3: League everybody has a second or third good. Receiver nobody 812 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: has a second good. Corner many teams don't have a 813 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 3: good first, Corner so SAFTGUARD i gotta give The jets 814 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: credit on this two first round. Picks so The jets 815 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: now like The Dallas. Cowboys the difference is The jets 816 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 3: need a. Quarterback so The jets are mailing in the. 817 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: Season they're going to have two first round. Picks next 818 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: couple of, years they're gonna go get a. Quarterback and 819 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 3: the reason they're doing this is if they end up 820 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 3: with a second best record and they really love a, 821 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: quarterback maybe you move up one spot to get the 822 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 3: guy you. Want so The jets are giving Up saftgardner 823 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 3: for two first round. Picks The seahawks Also Tom, pelasaro 824 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: are going to Get Rashid Sahed he's a speed. Receiver 825 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 3: The Sammy darnold baby just got another receiver to go WITH. 826 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: Jsn The saints are sending their speed. Receiver he's an 827 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 3: over the top guy to The. Seahawks Uh Ian rapaport 828 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 3: And Tom, pelosorrow. 829 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 4: Guys nice job on. 830 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: That SO i, MEAN i Thought seattle's receiving corps was already. 831 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: Good js and we talked about this. Yesterday is he 832 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: a top two to three receiver in the. League now 833 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 3: they had a speed receiver. Again now you're you're forcing 834 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 3: safeties to play differently against and Sam donold's got a big. 835 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 3: Arm donald is a big play. Quarterback they just added 836 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 3: a big play wide. Receiver how good is? This how 837 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 3: good is? This an hour two hurt Hierarchy Nick right