1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up, y'all was going on? Brother, He's a 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: legendary Queen's rapper. He is your boy in O R. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: What Up? 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: His DJ e f n Together they drink it up 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: with some of the biggest players in music and sports. 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, the most professional, unprofessional podcast 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: and your number one source for drunk facts. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: This is Drinks every Day is New Year's Eats. He 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: hain'ts hope, Savia. It's your boy in O R. What 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Up is DJ e Fen and his Drinks Dance Motherfucker podcast? 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: Right now, right now, we have the legendary a guy 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: that I feel like cinema should be handed to him 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: like period. Like when it comes to cinema, he has 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: to be the executive. 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: Producer of the word of the word. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Like when you look up cinema, it gotta be his face, 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: gotta be right there. He's made legendary movies. He's got 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: to work with the legends of the. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Legend, made the legends. 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 3: He made the legends, put them when they first leve 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 3: but especially hip hop, when it comes to hip hop, 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: he was I feel like he invented this. I'm going 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: to take rappers and I'm going to make. 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Them movie stars. I feel like he gives me some 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: other jobs. Right now, we got the legendary John. 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: Now, where did you get the love for developing cinema period? 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: How did that even come to you? 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: I grew up next to a drive in theater, and 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: I used to look out my window and let's to 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: see like Kung Fu movies and horror movies and Michael 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: Myers and stuff, and Blast protection movies. And I saw 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 4: Pam Grays titties. 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, are you saying Pam's great titties? 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Is what made you? 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: I gotta get I know that last what made me 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: do that? That's what happened. 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: It's true story. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: I'm not making it up. 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Everybody knows baby Boy was supposed to be a role 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: for Tupac. 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Yes, how difficult was that saying that? You know what? 43 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: I had wrote this originally for my friend because you 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: guys was friends and he's not here. How difficult was 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: that to pick that actor, that Tyree's actor. 46 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 4: I put it up on the shove for years after 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: that because the last thing, last conversation I had with 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: Park was at the Chris Shawn Maul. He was doing 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: this video to Live and Die in La and I 50 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: was like, I got the movie. That's going to get 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: you an oscar, you know, and that was it. That 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: was And then you know, a couple of weeks later, 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: he wasn't with us anymore. So I didn't. I wasn't. 54 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: I hadn't planned on doing the movie at all at all. 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 4: And it just I know Tyree since he was sixteen 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 4: years old, and I dished this movie Shaft. He was 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: supposed to be Tyree's was supposed to be in the movie, 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: but he was too busy being an MTV VJ. I said, Okay, 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: I got this movie. I'm gonna pull off the shelf. 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: And you know, you know, just like people have stuff 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: and files and stuff, I got movies and crates and 62 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: stuff that I've written. And I said, okay, maybe this 63 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: is the time to do this movie. 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: But by the way, Shaft, like when people do remakes, 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: it's very hard because and I can't believe how you pulled. 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Off Shaft like that. 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, it was. It was good. 68 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: It was good to be in New York. It was 69 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: a crazy time to be too. 70 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: I was. We was in the heighest we was in 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: We was in harlew Over, We was all over the 72 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: whole city. 73 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: It was it was. 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: You know, you remember it was that was when I 75 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: was making that movie. We were the only movie that 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: was shooting at the time. It was like in the daytime, 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: in the night, I was shooting in the night, and 78 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: then sometimes at night I was up in Cheetah and 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: Central Fly. 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: Like it was first, what was the first thing I 81 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: said to you? 82 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god. But I was like 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: I was a wild person then I was I'm different now, 84 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: more conservative conservative movies. 85 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: It's movies like you have to go through something like 86 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: you know how sometimes comedians will come out with things 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: every five years because it's like they actually got to 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: go through experiences. 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: For me, it's for me, making films is kind of 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: an emotional experience. You know. I put my all into it. 91 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: I put my heart and soul, you know, and it's 92 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: just like it takes something out of you, but it 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: gives something back. 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: And every time I do a movie, it's an adventure. 95 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 4: So, you know, lately, I've been just like concentrated on 96 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: television instead of movies because people watching more TV than 97 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 4: there are films, and there's a lot more to do. 98 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: You know, like you can make it. You make a 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 4: movie every two or three years, but a film a 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: TV show, it's like doing a movie. Every week. You 101 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 4: get a chance to shoot, pull a new talent, put 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: people in and see how they work, and then maybe 103 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: if they work in the TV show, then you take 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 4: them off to a movie. So that's my that's my body. 105 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: And you feel the same way about writing and directing. 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I have to write whatever I do, 107 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 4: I have to write. I have to write because I 108 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: have to put my own stink on it. 109 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Now, what made you say to ice Cube? You said, 110 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: because because I remember you saying that you knew. 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Thank you. 112 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: So you said to ice Cube, and just so you know, 113 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: it's a plastic on it, come on, help him out, 114 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 3: Come on, you're closes. 115 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: Let me show it over daily. I don't even know 116 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: how to do it. 117 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: But you said to ice Cube that his first rhymes 118 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: were like movie like so, and then he went later 119 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 3: on and created Friday. 120 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Did you ever think that you you should have been 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: about a Friday as well? Yeah? 122 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: I did. 123 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: Let's keep his true story was cute. 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: When we were doing Boys in the Hood, he started 125 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 4: like looking at how movies were made, watching the set, 126 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: so that he did a video called Dead Homies. 127 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: You've seen that video. It's really cinematic. 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: He started like doing slow ust shots and really cinematic stuff. 129 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: And you know, even when Cube had other. 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: People direct to move the videos, he would be quasi directed. 131 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: So then he was like, okay, I want to write movies. 132 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: I said, well, okay, we gotta get a laptop. He 133 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: me him and his now wife when she was just 134 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 4: founcing and going to laptop's a screenwriting stuff. So he started, 135 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: he wrote. He wrote from that. The next year and 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: a half, he wrote like three screenplays. He wrote different 137 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 4: titles and screenplays, and every one of them I was 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 4: like this one no. 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: And then he stopped showing me his screenplays. Wow. So 140 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: then he wrote because I kept shitting on him a 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: little bit. 142 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 4: I was because it's my brother, right, you could do 143 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: better than this, right. And then but he was also 144 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: selling them too. You know, it didn't matter if I 145 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: thought there was happening. He sold some stuff to Universal. 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: He was selling like right after that we got produced, 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: he was just selling screenplays. And then so then he 148 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 4: did he we do we do higher learning together. And 149 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: then he's like, I'm doing this other movie, I said, 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 4: and he's like, and it's like, okay. But but he 151 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: started Friday out independently and put it on Money Up Friday, 152 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: and the new line was like, we want to help you. 153 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: And I was like, if pe would have told me that, 154 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: I would like everything in it, because it was like, 155 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 4: you know, when he finally got it done. 156 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: It showed it to me. I was like, it's gonna 157 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge, and it was you know what 158 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, are we talking about Friday Friday? Oh? 159 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, Friday? Okay, so Friday. You know he did 160 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: that all on his own. Man, he's you know, look 161 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: at them now, man. 162 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. So now I'm glad you brung up Higher Learning, right, Jerry? 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: Because Higher Learning, I feel like, was a socially called 164 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: conscious movie. Yeah, we don't really have socially conscious movies anymore. 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: Are we missing that? We're missing a lot of things. 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: We're missing. 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: We're missing an era of John this is how we 168 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: do it, and drinks that's how we do it. So 169 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: are we missing social consciousness movies? I think we're missing 170 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: movies that about something. I think we need that now 171 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: more than. 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: Ever because I'm kind of proud of jay Z for 173 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: the Rikers Island. 174 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: That's nice. 175 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 1: That was that was that was beautiful. That was beautiful 176 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: for him to tell that story. And now him he's 177 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: doing the Trayvon Martin story. I feel like. 178 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: Doing a movie and doctor Trayvon mind and I think 179 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: that's really smart and and something that needs to be 180 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 4: done because. 181 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: We need that, like for our community, because I just 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: feel like it's balanced. I feel like level spell backwards, 183 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: this level we've got a balance in and I feel 184 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: like that's the perfect way. It's just it's because there's 185 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: so many of us more in our community, what more 186 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: than they read? 187 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. 188 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it's what I do. I like 189 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 4: to do films that are like make people think, but 190 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: also entertained so that they have to watch it several 191 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 4: times and be like. 192 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, did I really see that in there? 193 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 4: Hold on another time? So you know, even when I 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: make a film that that is really really has heavy 195 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 4: issues in it, it Uh, it's entertaining. You know what 196 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying. You don't really notice, you know. 197 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: Now. Poetic Justice. 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: Roll ice Cube roll was originally to excuse me Tupac's 199 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: roll was originally Ice. 200 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: Cubes, Yeah, exactly, and Cubes Romance. 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 3: Okay, and why what Okay, at the time we see 202 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: Tupac and Juice, we see Tupac everywhere else. But what 203 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: makes you say I'm gonna make Tupac riding in a 204 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: male band with Jackson? 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: He killed it because I mean, you know, he was. 206 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy because I didn't even give it a second 207 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: thought because you know, realized Pocket just done just it 208 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: hadn't even come out yet. 209 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I heard you say you saw the 210 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: movie in advance. 211 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 4: I saw the movie, were in advanced. I said, okay, 212 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: this this dude. You know, I wasn't. I wasn't thinking 213 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: about him to be in Poor Justice. I'm still thinking 214 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: about Cube. I was like, we got to do something together. 215 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 4: So we chop it up just like you know. And 216 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: he just he just got back because he had gotten 217 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: too l a and I was like, we gotta do 218 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: something together. Someone Cube said what he said? I said, Okay, 219 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: I call up him and I said, you know you 220 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: want to do it? He said, yeah, yeah, I do it. 221 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: You know. 222 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: Now, Boys in the Hood, Boys and Hook comes out first, right, yes, 223 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: then Minister Society comes out. 224 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: Yes. I gotta ask a petty question. 225 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 6: What's the time, Like, I was that time between them 226 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 6: just so two years? 227 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever think like they could have exactly was 228 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: the huge Brothers? Yeah, yeah, we. 229 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: Never heard your side of the story because I kind 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: of felt like ship they just made there with that 231 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: movie too. 232 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 4: Well, no, they just made they made an interesting film 233 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: that was more violent than my movie. My movie was 234 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: my movie was I say, it was more kind of 235 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: embedded in what my personal experience was. In the studio 236 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: that made Mini Society said we got to have some parents. 237 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: The boy there was. 238 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of movies, but in retrospect, 239 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 4: Minister Society is the best of all of those movies 240 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: that came after Boys, you know, because there's. 241 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: A lot of movies that they tried to copy. 242 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: It was like, you know, but but you know in 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: fact that my favorite character in a Society is old 244 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 4: Dog because he was he was like, right, no, Tupapa 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: was supposed to play this character, this other character that 246 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: another dude that was in Boysante Sweet played he was 247 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 4: a more conscious brother. 248 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, that was a teacher that was 249 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Fox Roy Yeah. 250 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: Right, And then he had had court beef with the 251 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: Hughes Brothers and had. 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: The ill roll too. So so what is what what? What? 253 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 4: What is? 254 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: John Singleton? What are you sitting back and saying. 255 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: That you know that you didn't produce I know you're 256 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: doing a lot of TV what I was, But what 257 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 3: do you enjoy like when you yeah me? 258 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: I mean like in terms of like just life and. 259 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: Stuff, movies, TV. I know you're doing too much TV 260 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: to watch TV. 261 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: I'm just too much TV to watch TV. I don't 262 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: even get a chance to really watch my TV because 263 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: I'm making TV right now. I mean, like, you know, 264 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: I like movies and stuff and everything, but the movies, 265 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: the movies now are not you know, I don't feel 266 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: that they're They don't push hard enough in terms of 267 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: the culture as much as possible, you know what I'm saying, 268 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like in terms of mainstream movies, 269 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: you know, and that needs to be. 270 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: Done, you know what I mean, because like because like 271 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: like Boys in the Hood was so much of important message. 272 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: It's just like yo, you know, you can. 273 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: Live the street life, but there is actually consequences exactly 274 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: this actually, and that's what hip hop sometimes fails to tell. 275 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: We only always yeah sell the drugs. I don't know 276 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna do nine years? 277 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like nothing that at the 278 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: end of it, Yeah, exactly. No, I'm all about the 279 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: reality of it. You know what I'm saying. 280 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: What's that like your goal? 281 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 4: Because I know, oh wow, My goal was just basically 282 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: telling the story. I was just like, you know, just 283 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: like trying to get something off my chest. That an 284 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: experience that I lived, that that I lived through and 285 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: that a lot of my family and friends had lived through. 286 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 4: So that was always about what. 287 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: If ice Cube said no to play dough Boy, who 288 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: would have played that? 289 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: I don't know, I can't want to go there, think 290 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 6: of nobody. 291 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: Where would we be now he. 292 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 4: Didn't play the part man, It was like, you know, 293 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: I think he was robbed of an Oscar nomination. I 294 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: think because it's one of those timeless performances that that 295 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: just exists. You know what I'm saying. 296 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna be honest with you. When I look 297 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: at like, if I want to describe the West Coast 298 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: how I first visualized the West Coast, I would start 299 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: at Boys and I would start there and be like, 300 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: you're working around it. I actually go there first and 301 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: then Colors. 302 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: I cursed it when I was a school with pil 303 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: East Coast. I don't know that was real, No, but 304 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: it wasn't real. It was it was derivative. It wasn't 305 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: because it wasn't done by by by black people. It 306 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: was like it was like, you know, it was like 307 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: it was nothing about that that thing that was really 308 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 4: truly whatever. You know, like people were more caricatures, more caricatures, 309 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: they weren't real, you know. 310 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: And so you know, so now I got to get 311 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: to the million dollar question, what was that? Why is it? 312 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: John Singleton directed this Tupac, Why you gotta I feel 313 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: like you got get another shot. 314 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: I feel like you're gonna get another shot because we 315 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: want the real answer, and I'm gonna take one with you. 316 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna busy myself on this. And because you know, 317 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: you're gonna bring up we fashions and you know, and 318 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: everything and stuff. 319 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: Because it's documented that you guys are friends. It was like, 320 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: nobody can't dispute that. 321 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: Well, just say that the people that that got the 322 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: rights to do the movie, they had different ideas on 323 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: how to do the movie than I did. And then 324 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 4: that you're a part of it at some point, right, yeah, 325 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 4: it was yeah in the beginning, right exactly. Well no, 326 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: not as it came in through and everything. But you know, 327 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: let them, let them make the movie and let's see 328 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: how it does. And you know, let's see. 329 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: What's because you're personally involved. So does that ever like 330 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: mess up in your creative process? 331 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: Like you because I'm personally about that means I'm more 332 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: focused and more like, you know, I'm more like get it, 333 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like that means I'm you know, 334 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: as I said, Bettt, you know what I'm saying. 335 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm down on the ground. I'm ready to shoot you. 336 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: I mean, like that makes it more powerful that I'm 337 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: more personally involved. 338 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if Benny Boom ever even met Tupac, 339 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Benny's my friend, my friend too, But 340 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm just thrinking. I'm just I don't care. 341 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 4: Yes, boy, every time I say something bad about with Benny, 342 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: Cosby said, you know, so it's like, you know, I 343 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: don't even want to touch it. 344 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Right now, let the movie come out. 345 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: Y'all make your own judgment what you want to say 346 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: about the movie. 347 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: But if you have had your choice, how would you 348 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: have done it? 349 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: Because I think I don't know if you've seen like 350 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: the Outlaw guys, he had just said something, Yeah, he 351 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: accused you of saying that he wanted you want to 352 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: put a rape scene of Tupac in there. 353 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there's a whole lot of things that that 354 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: that they were not. 355 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: Having the movie, that that actually happened, that they weren't 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: want to. 357 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: We're not saying Tupac got rigged. 358 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: There's a whole lot of things that happened. There's a 359 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: whole lot of stuff. There's the stuff that why why 360 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 4: who actually was involved in his death? Why didn't die? 361 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: What I'm saying will delete up to his death, you 362 00:16:58,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like, so I don't know what 363 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: they did with the movie. So you know, it's like 364 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: I can't even speak on it because I don't even 365 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 4: what they did with the movie. And I won't watch 366 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 4: the movie, you know what I mean? 367 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: But if you had your choice, how would you did 368 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: the movie? If you'd have had your choice, how would 369 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 3: you did the movie? How would I what did the movie? 370 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna say that over a podcast, Yeah, I mean, 371 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make you know, make the right movie. I'm 372 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 4: You know, you gotta understand I'm and I don't want 373 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 4: to speak on this over and over there. I come from, 374 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 4: I come from, I come from. You know two. I 375 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: was born in nineteen seventy one. I was born nineteen 376 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: seventy eight. We are revolutionary babies. It's a difference between 377 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 4: being a revolutionary baby and being someone who's just hip hops, 378 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We were built, you know, 379 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: for the betterment of our people. We were built for 380 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 4: to bring everybody up, you know what I'm saying. And 381 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: a whole lot of stuff that happened, and in terms 382 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: of black liberation was faltered because black people were not 383 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: in solidarity with each other, you know what I'm saying. 384 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 4: So you know that's what I'm saying. 385 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be. 386 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to be that person that keeps on 387 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: having dissension or whatever. They made the movie. They stole 388 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 4: the rights from his mother, so they made the movie 389 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: they want to make And hopefully one day I'll get 390 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 4: a chance to tell that story. But otherwise I got 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: all this other ship that I'm trying to do that 392 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 4: is is in line with what my principles are as 393 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 4: a person and as a black man and that I'm 394 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: gonna do. So that's that's all I want to speak on. 395 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: This' makes no noise for that. 396 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 7: You can trying to make a part movie in the future, yeah, 397 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 7: of course, or at least at least. 398 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: No, No, this has to be. 399 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 4: It has to be a movie. It's it's too it's 400 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: too it's too it's too important not to just make 401 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: a movie. I mean, like, you know, there's so many 402 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: different things around why who he was as a person, 403 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: you know, and why people can be inspired by it, 404 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 4: you know. 405 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: No, it's it's such it's such a great story. 406 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: So when I heard, like you know, when people have 407 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: differences with it, I always listened because I. 408 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: Never got to meet Tupac. Yeah, I never got to 409 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: meet Tupac. 410 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: Actually, uh, he actually hung out in my hood and 411 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: I was in jail, So I actually never got to 412 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 3: meet Tupac. So I'm always this is actually me as 413 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: a fan, like just asking. But now you also got 414 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 3: to work with somebody who's also legendary and who also 415 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: I think is innocent. O. J. 416 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Simpson you got to work with. 417 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: I had to work with him. I met him before, Yeah, 418 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: I met him before, but I did I did an 419 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 4: episode of a show based on her people verse ojtly okay, 420 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: how was that? 421 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: Like? 422 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: It was good, it was interesting, it was fun. It 423 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 4: was like, you know, it was good. 424 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: Because he changed l A after that, well he changed 425 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: he changed culture. 426 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I. 427 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 5: Mean, I mean what I mean is like we just 428 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 5: looked at l A like give me from this coach. 429 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: You the point of view were just like, oh, because yeah, 430 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 5: that's weird. 431 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just weird. It was just I 432 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: mean because like we never knew we thought only our 433 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: cops is racist. We never knew that outside of our ship, 434 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: there's there's other people that's racist, you know what I'm saying. 435 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Like we didn't travel, but after oh J, it was 436 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: like clear, it was. 437 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Just like, holy moly, Walka, this is what is going down. 438 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: But I never thought o J did it. And I 439 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: met OJ as well. 440 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: When we met him, there was. 441 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 6: Him, you know, I met him twice, you know, yeah, 442 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 6: neighborhood he was at that time. 443 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was walking out the best bite. He said, 444 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: my leg is killing me. And I thought that was 445 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: the funniest thing in the world. And he said that 446 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't get it. He was lipping something was wrong 447 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: his leg and he goes, my leg is killing me killing. 448 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, bad, bad, But I just you know, you know 449 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: what it is. I hung around like real killers, right, 450 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 3: and this is always a certain instinct about it exactly, 451 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: and he didn't have it exactly. 452 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 4: He did not have it. 453 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: You got to say the story about when we met 454 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: him at the concert. What he said, You gotta tell 455 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the story, please, like you don't co sign like talking 456 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: about it. 457 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: So what concert? 458 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: It was something? 459 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 6: It was a radio station, you know they do like 460 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: summer jams and the concert Fort Myers. 461 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: So my record La would tell me, don't stand next 462 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: to old Jay. 463 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 7: It's the oddest thing in the world. 464 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Honest, this is crazy. 465 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 7: So we're all backstage with him and his boys and 466 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 7: his crew. 467 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: At that time was still his voice Murder Union Murder. 468 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 6: Oh j comes back, and everybody's like, let's take a 469 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 6: picture together, and there's this infamous picture and then when 470 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 6: he snapping the shot, one of his boys says, you 471 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: original union. 472 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 8: He said, yeah, it was I'm. 473 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 7: You clearly remember I'm making this. I thought it was 474 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 7: me who said it. I'm just looking at him and like, 475 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 7: oh hell. 476 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm honestly, I never thought to take Yeah, 477 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: and this is before Instagram, but we do got a 478 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: picture that we don't have to pature that moment, but 479 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: we got a picture that night. 480 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 7: No, you have a picture of when he said that, 481 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 7: ye to. 482 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: But that was awesome working on. 483 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: That because you from you from that time, you live 484 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 3: through that exactly. So is it better for you to 485 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: be passionate about the project? 486 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: It's much better for me to be like passionate about it, 487 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: taking personal, like you know, just feeling it in my heart, 488 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: you know, and that's you know, that's what it's about. 489 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Have you ever done something for the money? It was 490 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: just like this is just for the money, yeah, you know, 491 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: but it doesn't work out, Like it doesn't work out 492 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: too well. When I explain that to you, it's like, 493 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: it's just you have to. 494 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: Whenever you do something you know, artistic, whether or not, 495 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: even if you're getting paid for it, it's better to 496 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: do it for the passion of it, for the heart 497 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: of it, and you really feel it that you know. 498 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: It's just you know, in your blood, like you do anything, 499 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 4: you know, you'll kill somebody if they fuck with your ship, 500 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like you know. That's that's 501 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: that's how I am about certain things, you know what 502 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: I mean when I'm doing something, you know, and not 503 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 4: everybody's about that. People are just you know, they're just 504 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: going about the jobs and you know, whatever it is. 505 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: For me, I'm like, I'm like laser, I gotta get it, 506 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: you know. I feel like I feel like I just 507 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, I know you for you. 508 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: I know you real drinking years. 509 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: But I feel like I feel like that's what drives 510 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: you is passion. 511 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: First, you feel it in the work because you're watching something, 512 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: you feel it. 513 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: You feel it. 514 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: That's why I can get people to do things that 515 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 4: they would they would do with me, but they wouldn't 516 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: do with other people. You know what I'm saying, Like 517 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 4: you know. 518 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: Like scenes, baby boy, everything, you know what I mean, 519 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: Like it's great. Now. Now, what was the moment in 520 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: life that you passed on but you regret it? Like 521 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: something wasn't that passed? 522 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Didn't you pass on the wire? 523 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 524 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: I passed. 525 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: I just didn't think like doing the whole thing. No, No, 526 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: the first season, I didn't. I didn't know it was 527 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: gonna be what it was. But it But by the 528 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: time it got into this like thirst season. 529 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, because corners Corners came 530 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 3: before and the. 531 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: Corners it wasn't that great. 532 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 4: Corners is all right, but it wasn't with the wire, 533 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: it wasn't Why was the wire was lit? 534 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 535 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 4: It was lit? It was so lit. It was like, 536 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: I really don't. 537 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah it did. 538 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: So who you get the for the while it's HBO. 539 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Or agent com music agent, Like, I'm not gonna do that. 540 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 4: I was like, is. 541 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: That the only thing you ever passed on? You regret it? 542 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: Or the only thing I can remember right now? You know? 543 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: You know? 544 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Now, is there anything that. 545 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 3: Like, uh, you have a set out to do, you 546 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 3: did it and then you was disappointed in the outcome? 547 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: No, not at all. I mean, like, you know, I 548 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 4: think my work. 549 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: Is a thousands. We know that. 550 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 7: We know that. 551 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: Thousand right now? 552 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: God forbid? 553 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: You know? 554 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: You know, so you know I'm still still hitting it 555 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: really hard. You know, I'm gonna do you know, some 556 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: more TV and top telling, do some more movies. But 557 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 4: everything I do is gonna be real passionate and hitting 558 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: it really hard. 559 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: Now what do you like better? Though? I know you're 560 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: doing the same thing TV TV thing. It's the same thing. 561 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: It's the same thing that. Here's the same thing to me. 562 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: You watch anything that I put this on TV. It looks, 563 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: you know, like one of my more work. 564 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: Now we got Rebel on BT correct exactly, and you 565 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 3: got to premire for Rebel tonight. 566 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, another another episode today? 567 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Okay? And what does this act? 568 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: So people couldn't know, Oh this is private? 569 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: What what the tonight? Oh no, no, it's Air to Night. 570 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 4: Is not Air to Night. 571 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: But you know you say you do it every week 572 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: before the joints, So we would like to get Oh yeah, 573 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: we just. 574 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 4: Have a little thing a z in lounge and in 575 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: the in the valley on the valley, it's like so Lancasham, 576 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 4: it's a little spot. 577 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: So what's the next thing for black media? Like, okay, 578 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: Birth of the Nation came out. It didn't work right 579 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: because it felt like it was it worked. 580 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,959 Speaker 1: It just got squashed. It got squawhed, It got squashed. 581 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: So what's the movie. 582 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: Got squashed because they didn't want that movie to come out, 583 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: you know with the Black Lives Matter and stuff and 584 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 4: all stuff. That movie they squashed that movie, you know 585 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: what I mean, that's the real time. 586 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: It's very true. 587 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 4: That's the real time they squashed a movie. And and 588 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: black people are kind of like, you know, they have 589 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: a complicit in squashing that movie. 590 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: But as a movie director, was the movie? Uh good? Period? 591 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: The movie was good? It was good movie. It was good. Good. 592 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: You see the movies. I didn't see the movies you 593 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: got see the other I've been running around. I've been 594 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: running around. I ain't see my own movie. I could 595 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: do all my own movie right now. But listen, man, 596 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: we need more directors like you, right. We need more 597 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: people who are passionate than they work. So so if 598 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 3: a person is listening to this podcast, and if they 599 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: that's their goals, that's their their their there, that's there, 600 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 3: that's what they want to achieve, how do you get started? 601 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: Because now these kids can just buy. 602 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: The equipment, Like when you started that you had to 603 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: be almost rich to get cameras. 604 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have to you have to look at 605 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: to do it really really well. 606 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: You have to study it. 607 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 4: You have to study what came before and in the 608 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 4: style and tone you know, and and theme, and you 609 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 4: have to like be well read about how story story 610 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: you know people, you know, how stories propagate universally. You 611 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: know what I mean in different languages and stuff, right, 612 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: And that's what you know. That's what made me do 613 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: what I create. And then you create your own style. 614 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: When you went to film school though, Yeah. 615 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: But before film school I was doing all that. And 616 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 4: even after film school, I kept learning. I'm learning all 617 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: the time, you know. 618 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: So if a young directord director is sitting out there 619 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: and they feel like they're creative, they feel like they 620 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: can write, what's the first step you suggest for them. 621 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 4: Uh, to watch all movies and watch movies from around 622 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,719 Speaker 4: the world. 623 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 6: How far back you think they should watch movies to the. 624 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 4: Beginning of cinema, to the beginning of the the moving picture. 625 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: You have to you have to study it. Be a 626 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: student of the game. Student of the game. 627 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Now you you rolled off Our Colors? Is American? 628 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 8: Me? 629 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: Real? 630 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Authentic? 631 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: That was a great good I mean, I'm not saying 632 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: that because I'm not. 633 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: It's a good movie. How about Blood and Blood out 634 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: that the colors of America? Colors are doing? Another cho 635 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: another Come on, you got you going to a party 636 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: on your way to you so rich man hear you 637 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: got yachts and all types. 638 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: Of things, and you know what you're humble god, but 639 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: almost I'm a brag. I'm a brag for you, man. 640 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: I'm a brag for you man. 641 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 642 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 6: We listen. 643 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, but our show is 644 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 3: about giving our legends flowers when they can smell them, 645 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: and trees when they can hell them. Because our society 646 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: so much praises the person after they die, and I 647 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: feel like that is so backwards. I should be able 648 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: to tell you how much I appreciate you right here, 649 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: face to face and a man out of eye, as 650 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: opposed to waiting for you to pass away and then 651 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: be like he. 652 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: Was a great guy, me and him party. 653 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 3: Together back in the day, Like I should say that now, 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying. 655 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: And I actually learned that through Dave Chappelle. 656 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: You know the way it was Prince and it was 657 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: like he started praising Prince while Prince was alive. And 658 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: it's just like, that's what we got to continue to do. 659 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: And that's not just as a culture, that's as as. 660 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: People as human human beings, as human beings. 661 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: We got to start praising our people while they're here. 662 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: So, with that being said, how was it working with 663 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. 664 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: You know, come on, it's beautiful. It jerked off the 665 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: penny a lot. Throw that out there. 666 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: It was good. 667 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, is that serious, that whole age thing. 668 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 4: No, that was not serious. That was a joke that 669 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: we was having on the set. Because the real talk 670 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 4: is was attracted to Janet. I was attracted to Janet 671 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: the world. We're in the set, we're both trying to like, 672 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: you know, floodwater and stuff. 673 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, well, I don't know if you 674 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: know I. 675 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: Should have you kissing on my actress because you know, 676 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: you've been fucking around doing all this ship. You know, 677 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: Pocket was just coming in his own man right, and 678 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 4: I was like, man, that ship. I was like, yeah, 679 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: you know what, you're gonna have to do a test 680 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: for y'all do this left scene. It was a joke. 681 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: He said that. 682 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 4: You said, you know, it's me sawing out my nigga 683 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: on the side right before, just like you know, talking ship. 684 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 4: And then we're like, oh, ship, we should we should 685 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 4: we should use this, we should put this out. 686 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: And so that's what we did as a publicity that it's. 687 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: A publicity thing. We just did that. 688 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: But just like us Jackson about it was just us talking. 689 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 4: On the ship, on the set and everything and this, 690 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 4: and you know it was a inside joke, that's what 691 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 4: it was. 692 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: Now, not only did you get to work with Janet Jackson, 693 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: he got to work with the baby. 694 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: Man, Mike Jackson. Did he have a gloved warm when 695 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: you met him? 696 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 4: No, he did not have a guy's where he wore 697 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: the old fuck like I ain't gonna lie, and he 698 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: did he did. It's crazy because it's it's I'm always 699 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: you see Michael on camera and I said he didn't 700 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: talk the way that he talks, you know. 701 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: And you're saying like Mike was a nigga, like was like. 702 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 4: Different, different and everything that I'm just saying that just 703 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 4: that was an expectation that he put on for the cameras. 704 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: He didn't. He wouldn't talk like it. He was his brother. 705 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: He was a different demeanor and everything, different demeanor and everything. 706 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, it's just like hey, you know, 707 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 4: and he was really despite what he you know, he 708 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 4: ended up doing to his face and his skin got 709 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 4: lighter and everything and stuff. He was a real brother man. 710 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: He was really about black people. 711 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 3: Because I heard that video he Actually that was after 712 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: Magic actually announced and he wanted to do something. 713 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: Mike and Mike wanted. Mike wanted Magic in the video. 714 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: He said, you know, call him Magic. Let's get him 715 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 4: in the video. Remember the time, remember the time? 716 00:32:52,720 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: I hate that in my head, right, I couldn't have 717 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: met Michael Jackson. I would like I would have gave him. 718 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: I would gave him a five too hard, gave us 719 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: the crazy Michael Jackson. Okay, so how was it? Was 720 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: he a pure genius? Like was he everything? 721 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 7: He was? 722 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 4: He's damn near genius. I mean Daniel Jenius. I mean 723 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 4: like you know the things that that that he did 724 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: and that he and that he wanted to do and stuff, 725 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: you know, like unprecedented in this business. 726 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, genius. Have you ever been starstruck? Yeah? Who start? 727 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I gotta hear this. 728 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: I mean I've only that starstruck two times in my 729 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 4: whole career. 730 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: I need to hear both. Let's go for it. 731 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: The first was meeting Steven Spielberg because it's like, you know, 732 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: as a kid growing up, you know, like he was, 733 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 4: you know, the the young person that went on to 734 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 4: make movies at an early age, and I wanted to 735 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: be like that just nervous, and you know, I saw 736 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: him and it was as soon as I saw him 737 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: and we met just it was like it was like 738 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: you know, it was it was just great. 739 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's like the godfather and godfather. 740 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: Of filmmaking and filmmaker. The second was what your prior, 741 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 4: rich What did you mean which I member? 742 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: Which prior? 743 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: At the comedy store? I was I used to hang 744 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 4: out to come. 745 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: As soon as you said you met Richard, I thought 746 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: the comedy. 747 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: Store and so uh And it's funny because rich Par 748 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: was hanging out with. 749 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: A comedy club, was Hollywood with. 750 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: Opportuna and your life is dope. And I'm like, let's 751 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: throw that out there. I don't even look at opportune. 752 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm looking at much private. But Richard used to have 753 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 4: this dude that worked for him. It came over to 754 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 4: me and and he said, uh, you know, uh, Richard 755 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 4: would like to say hello to you. And I walked 756 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: across him and Richard was kind of frail. He the 757 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 4: MS was getting him, but it wasn't as bad. It was, Yeah, 758 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: it wasn't milchbot and he just said, uh, uh, you're 759 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 4: a young man that made that movie. Boys and the 760 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 4: hood just came out and I said, yes, sir, I am, 761 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: and mind you because you like me. You listen to 762 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 4: every Richard mama had since birth, curse listen to. He said, 763 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: are you the young man that man the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah, 764 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: and he goes against me a hunt nigga. I just 765 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 4: cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because 766 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 4: this is a man. And then after that we became friends. 767 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: I used to go up to his house. He said 768 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: he'd be sitting up in the bed. He had a 769 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 4: gun right by the side of his baby. This motherfucker 770 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 4: got a gun right next to his bed. And every comedian, 771 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: the Wayne's brothers, whoever it. 772 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: Was, he bore guns. 773 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 4: No, No, all these people would come through. They would 774 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 4: come through every day to pay harmised Richard. And it's 775 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 4: before he really got sick. So it's like, you know, 776 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 4: we were. 777 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 3: Just he was on his way to being sick, but 778 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: he was coming to pay homage, just to pay. 779 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 4: They know there was coming to homes because you just want. 780 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: To be around with probly. 781 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 4: If you want to be a comedian, you want to 782 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 4: be around with pride. And so we were just sitting 783 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 4: chopping up and he was just you know, he was 784 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: just tell me, how about about business? 785 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: How about that movie? What you should be a part 786 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: of that movie? You can't do them all? Man would 787 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: love to. 788 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 4: I would love to, yeah, because yeah, he was. He 789 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 4: was ultimate storyteller. And I still take a lot from 790 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 4: him as a storyteller in terms of the way that 791 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 4: he with Ben stuff, Ben lines, and he would just 792 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: you know, he was the He was. 793 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: The storyteller of the streets. 794 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 4: If you think about all the stuff that Jose that 795 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 4: you listened to him, they were really sad stories, some 796 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 4: of them exactly. 797 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: He was like Don Goring's pimple comedy. So people know 798 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: how to do that. 799 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 4: So when I take a lot from him in terms of, 800 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 4: like when I tell a story, just stuff that may 801 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 4: be a little sad but funny, funny but sad, you 802 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, because that's what life is. Life 803 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 4: is not just one thing, you know what I mean. 804 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: We can go to movies and say, oh, that's just 805 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 4: a comedy. All that movie is just a serious movie. 806 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 4: When you watch one of my movies, it's a reflection 807 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 4: of life. So I mean, Richard, Richard is an ultimate storyteller. 808 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 7: To me. 809 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Will we ever have. 810 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: A dope error like that again, like the nineties cinema, 811 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: would that ever return a different way? 812 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 4: I think we have a different way. I think we 813 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 4: can in a different way. I think as long as 814 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: there's been more voices that are really uncut and pure 815 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 4: and just like, you know, not afraid to maybe necessary 816 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: offend some people, you know what I mean, Like, you 817 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 4: know that's what it's about. It's not you know, I 818 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: don't think people push it as far as they can 819 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: push it in terms of a of any anything. 820 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: You know that it was Empire, like your first TV 821 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 3: that was your first TV it. 822 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 4: Was it was my first TV show directing on the 823 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,280 Speaker 4: direct Yeah. 824 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: What did you work on TV before? Probably Empire? 825 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: I mean I was on TV shows, but I never directed. 826 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 4: That's the first one I worked on. But you know 827 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: that came about because you know, without Empire, that would 828 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 4: without me, it would be not. 829 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Get real talk because Hustle and Flow. 830 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah you you invested in Huston Flow paid for the 831 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 3: whole movie. 832 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, that was Lee Daniels. No produce flow okay, okay, okay, okay, 833 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: from to get the whole whole thing. So what is 834 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 1: Daniels go to do? On Flow. Nothing. 835 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: He made Empire. 836 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: Okay, ter get. 837 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 4: My veterans from Hustle and Flow to do a TV show. 838 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's with the relations in there. But we are brothers. 839 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: You know that. 840 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: It's beautiful to see us win and celebrate us winning, 841 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: all of us as people. 842 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,280 Speaker 1: It's just it's about time. That's what this show is about. 843 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 4: Man. 844 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: This show ain't about you know. 845 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 3: You go on certain you know, internet shows, and you 846 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 3: can see negative ship. 847 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: We just celebrate our people. We drink, we smoke. 848 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: I was about to ask you you're gonna smoke, but 849 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: I feel like you got sponsors. 850 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 4: No, I don't sponsors. 851 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: Feel that smoke. 852 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 4: If I spoke too much. I want to, but you 853 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 4: want to. 854 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't want you to, my friend, you take it. 855 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: You take it, man. 856 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: I just want to thank you man for being a 857 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 3: part of this. You know, this is just just like 858 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 3: I get again. We want to continue to celebrate our culture, 859 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: our lifestyle, our ways of life, and just continue to 860 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: get back to the community and just have fun doing it. 861 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: It's so much you know, dumb ship happening in the world. 862 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: When people turn on the news and you get sad. 863 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: I would rather they turn on this and get happy 864 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: happy yon day. 865 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna put me in 866 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: a movie or somewhere I get a roll, anything whatever. 867 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get it. 868 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: My friend. I'm like yo. 869 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: I was like, yo, I gotta get in one one 870 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: Like it's just it's it's that you called I M 871 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 3: B M D. 872 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: You know I'm a foul hobbywood. I need the I 873 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: M B A D B No. I need more than 874 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: my list. I'm good. I want to do East Coast movies. 875 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: I want to try to play a West Coast crip 876 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: mo on the West Coast. I did the Heart. I 877 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: did Heart. You ever watched this? It's called the Seventh not. 878 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 3: Just say and I played a black guy. 879 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: I died as soon as the youth because as soon 880 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: as chop my head off, I fucking chopped my head off. 881 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 3: That's so black that you know that's a horror movie. 882 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 3: You can we don't last horror movies in real life. 883 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 3: I think I would SURVIVEDR Like, if you put me 884 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: in some scary ship, I like, you know what, I 885 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: rally at shot at though that's a horror movie to me. 886 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I rally shot at then. 887 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 3: A snake chased me like, I gotta know, I got 888 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 3: no experience in the snake chase like. 889 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: I got you got that before. I know good behind 890 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: the car wait, get. 891 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: Your gold like, but now for snake chase me, I 892 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: that's not my element. 893 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna just be like, wait a minute. Hold, well, 894 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: well I'm getting big. 895 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 4: I'm dying. 896 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: If a snake hit me, I'm dying. I got no 897 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 3: experience with that. We got we gotta make real reality shows. 898 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 3: You know how they got fake fair factor. We gotta 899 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 3: make like hood factor. 900 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 7: They got shot at some hood. 901 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: Good if you want to be shot at? What is 902 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: the internet to someone? Put me onto this. It's a 903 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: little suspect. We're gonna have a real game. 904 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 7: Put something where they do ghosts chasing and it's a 905 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 7: little crazy. We don't have. 906 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: Ghosts in the hood. 907 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: We got we got a woman named Wanda that wakes 908 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 3: up every day. 909 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: And says good morning. 910 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 3: That ship is the experience, you know what I'm saying, 911 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: Like every every hood got a crazy person, right, Like 912 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: every hood has a crazy person. The zombie now is 913 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: the characters that you write, is they based on real characters? 914 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: All to tell a lot of them and best especially 915 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 3: the hoodie one. 916 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. There's so many characters in the hood. You know, 917 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 4: you're right, there's always a neighborhood crazy person. 918 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 3: It's always and everybody deals with they crazy like they like, yeah, 919 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 3: that's that she. 920 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Does, like. 921 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 4: Maybe one and then maybe on some days they're not crazy, 922 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 4: and I don't feel like they're crazy today, like I don't, 923 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 4: you know, and they don't be the. 924 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: Best advice and you don't listen to crazy, yo, John Man, 925 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 3: I can't thank you enough. Man, Yo, you're such a legend. 926 00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 8: Man. 927 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: You did so much for this game. 928 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 3: You did so much for the for for for hip hop, 929 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 3: and particularly by you always incorporating a hip hop artist 930 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: even you got method Man and Rebel Medicine, Rebel Rebel 931 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 3: right now, and you also go the f X we didn't. 932 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 4: Even in Snowfall. You know, it's a whole lot of you. 933 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: Keep it hip hop incorporated. We appreciate that, man, because 934 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 3: you all do. You're a legend, Yo. We're one of 935 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 3: the best artists ever and you keep us alive and 936 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 3: there's nothing And you also was the first person to 937 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: put a West Coast guy and an East Coast. 938 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: Guy in higher learning. 939 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know if you ever I don't 940 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 3: know if you ever beat that. That was like the 941 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 3: first that was the first union from the West Coast 942 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: and East coast in the city because where was high 943 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 3: and learning at actually at l it was in l A, Okay. See, 944 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 3: we never knew that on the East coast. To us, 945 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: we was just that was neutral. You got a West 946 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 3: coast East coast. This is crazy, you know that, right? 947 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? 948 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: You know, just my folks, just people. I was knowing 949 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 4: at the time that you know. 950 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: And I also hear that that that's how passionate you are. 951 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 3: You like you like you like the Adam Samau Adam 952 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 3: Sama always hired is the same crew you kind of 953 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 3: the same. 954 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 4: Crew you like to put you know, people I know 955 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 4: and work people I know, you know, and we just 956 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 4: we make something happen. 957 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: You know? 958 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 3: Is it easier that way when you work with somebody 959 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 3: you know, because you know you can scream on him 960 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 3: and you. 961 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 4: Can just scream on I screamed on everybody, that's all, 962 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 4: you know. But but what I do is I make 963 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 4: careers though you know what I'm saying. When people work 964 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: on me, they end up doing other stuff. Though that's 965 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 4: not just a flash in the pan, get the latest 966 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 4: rapper in the movie for the face look whatever like No, 967 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: it's like people do, they end up doing other things, 968 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 969 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: I've been trying to. 970 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 3: Get something for John singlet hen't come out of the 971 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 3: socks line. I'm just wear it like I'm down with Singleton. 972 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 3: That's my nigga. My brother, Thank you so much, my brother, 973 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: be good. We got anything else? And and do you want. 974 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: To come eat? They got it all man, We got 975 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: it all right, yo. 976 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: Man, this has been an honor. Man your first director. 977 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: Verse for drink Champs, the first drink in the first 978 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: direction to that, I'll take another one. God damn it. 979 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 3: Don't don't don't, don't tell me they have a good time. 980 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 3: And now you're going to going to premiere of Rebel 981 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 3: also on f X. 982 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 4: Red Rebel is on BT, Rebels on b T, Snowfalls 983 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 4: or f X stuff All you didn't talk about stuffs 984 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,439 Speaker 4: saying Fall was about it's the beginning of the whole 985 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 4: prat trade in l A, it's about cocaine. 986 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 9: Tonight to day you got two shows A b C 987 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 9: was the summer tonight, said ABC on A b C. 988 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 9: To this is l a burning, a burning. 989 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, is it the anniversaryll do you realize how busy 990 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: is you got? 991 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 4: Other man? 992 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's make some noise. 993 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 4: It's about the twenty fifth anniversary of the LA Riots. 994 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: Wow, damn, it's crazy. It's been that long already. It's 995 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: twenty five. That's after Rodney King. Yeah that is Rodney Yeah, 996 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: Ronney King got twenty five years ago. That's rare. 997 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, a verdict yeah, yeah right, yeah, So let's let's 998 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: break that down for the people who a quickly we 999 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: get about it here. 1000 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it's just you know, it's a it's documentary 1001 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 4: about what happened and takes it from the street point 1002 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: of view of the people who basically are from South 1003 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: Central and uh, the Korean culture and the Latin of 1004 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 4: the people who were really scarred by it were in 1005 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 4: the middle of it. 1006 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: Okay, when you say Korean, the Koreans was riding to 1007 00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: their business. 1008 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 4: They were defending their hysicists from being looted, you know 1009 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like it was a war. There's a 1010 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,399 Speaker 4: war zone, you know, like so but we we got 1011 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 4: you know, we got perspectives that no one else has 1012 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 4: in this documentary and what. 1013 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: Was the Latinos saying coming from just. 1014 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 4: Well the people in the documentary just they got caught 1015 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 4: up in it. They got actually you know, they got 1016 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 4: hurt by it, you know what I'm saying. 1017 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 1: But that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like my 1018 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: grandparents lived in Inglewood and they called me during the 1019 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 1: riots the blood no man, they blood right, that's not 1020 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: that's not. 1021 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 6: The truth mixed and they called me and they were 1022 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 6: telling me they were like, the Latinos are rioting too, 1023 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 6: because it wasn't showing it on TV. 1024 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 4: They made that riot pretty much a black lid and 1025 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 4: they were there more Latino was rioting and then the 1026 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 4: black people riding, but they didn't want to show that. 1027 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 6: It says, I'm not gonna front since my family's Cuban. 1028 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 6: They look they like, we're not Mexican, like the Mexicans 1029 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 6: are right, but. 1030 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 4: But it's like but it was Mexicans and our Salvadorians, 1031 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like people would who basically 1032 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 4: are you used to like war situations that were like 1033 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 4: really going at it was like it was like green light, 1034 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 4: let's go anarchy, you know what I'm saying, Like from 1035 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 4: their country for war, they grew up in war. So 1036 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 4: they were like, Hey, you know, I'm gonna get my car. 1037 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it up on pet boys. I'm gonna 1038 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 4: get me some new tires. I'm gonna put the transmission. 1039 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 4: People were doing transmissions and changing their cars up. You know, 1040 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 4: we didn't show this in the documentary, but I'm saying, 1041 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 4: you know they were doing that, you know what I mean, 1042 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 4: like doing the riot. So, I mean, there's so many 1043 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 4: different stories to be told within that man, so many 1044 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 4: wild time. It was a while, it was wild time. 1045 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 3: And I know you're not gonna tell me this, but 1046 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 3: I feel like, what is John, What is your next move? 1047 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: My next What are you making the big Pun movie 1048 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 3: with me? 1049 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: That would be an amazing movie. 1050 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, big, but let's make the movie. I don't know 1051 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 4: the whole story. You know what's really funny is because 1052 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 4: we was rolling in the same time in the nineties, 1053 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 4: like Pun had all the bad Puerto ricanditions. 1054 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 10: He had right now, all the funnest I was so 1055 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 10: jealous meet that right now. I was so jealous girls 1056 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 10: like honey, he had he not he not he not 1057 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 10: he not fat like belly fat. 1058 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: He was the whole room. And he had three or 1059 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: four around him, right, and they were so beautiful it's 1060 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna kill me, but don't worry about it. 1061 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 4: They were so beautiful, like your face would hurt when 1062 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 4: you saw them. And we would hang out at Jimmy's Bronx. 1063 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 4: We were hanging on Jimmy's Bronx and it would just 1064 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 4: be like it would be girls coming from d R 1065 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 4: and from from Puerto Rico. 1066 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: They couldn't speaking. 1067 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 4: Laders that were like models, and every nigga that was 1068 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: a hip hop would be a Jimmy's Bronx. 1069 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: That's right, you know what I'm saying. That's right. Look, 1070 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: you know you can tell John we walk up there. 1071 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: You know. I used to walk up there and Joe 1072 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: would be there and and they'd be like, what you 1073 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: want to eat? 1074 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 4: It would be like do we eat? Eat all you 1075 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 4: could eat, drink all you could eat, and then you 1076 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 4: go dance and it would be Friday night. 1077 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: It was like Friday nights. It was Friday night was 1078 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: a band and the Saturday was hip hop exactly. You know, 1079 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: because I went to. 1080 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 4: The riding spots in New York. 1081 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: I lived in New York. I was the grindiest spot. 1082 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 4: And you know, like we would eat we would drink 1083 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 4: and you know, it was always like Saturday night. Friday 1084 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 4: night was the people who were newly immigrated to New 1085 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 4: York because English, they just came, you know, some kind of. 1086 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: Spanish to get a bit, right, yeah, a little bits. 1087 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole boy to be like hey listen, right, 1088 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 4: but Saturday night somebody will always get shot. 1089 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: But when we go both right that what you got 1090 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: to you got you got. You don't know that. So 1091 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: you net a Latin movie, right, you never did a 1092 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 1: whole Latin movie. It's called legal Tender. Oh yeah, it's 1093 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: like they got their own. 1094 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 4: I Potago Potago called the own in this first movie. 1095 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 4: And then they took him off and put him in 1096 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 4: faster furious. That's my brother, some brother from from I 1097 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 4: think that's why you know. 1098 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: They go, they go Louisa, let me say no, Louisa, 1099 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: let me say me, and you would be the lights 1100 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: the most like. 1101 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 4: Skinning exactly, like yeah, you like I shot that down there, 1102 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 4: I produced that down there. I shot that down there, 1103 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 4: and we were just you know, it was it was 1104 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 4: a movie. 1105 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: I was. 1106 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 3: Then you had the other dude in there, that the 1107 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 3: young kid with the afro, Rick Gonzales yeahs out my 1108 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 3: man from basketball movie. 1109 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: But coach car Yeah it's not good actor. 1110 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 3: Because I know you got to go so but how 1111 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 3: do you actually see talent? Like when people say like 1112 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 3: what what what? 1113 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 4: What is it? 1114 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 1: Is? 1115 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 7: It is it? 1116 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 4: When you it's just my vibe. It's like when a 1117 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: vibe or somebody, I'll be like, okay, vibe with them 1118 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 4: and say, okay, if I can get that original, what's 1119 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 4: really special about them? A the original vibe on camera 1120 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 4: out to the world. Then that then that the world 1121 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 4: see what I see. And that's how it goes from me. 1122 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't. 1123 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 3: Hell, by the way, it was ill, but because I 1124 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 3: got a friend, right Sonny Sonny d Sonny d BT 1125 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 3: is the funniest guy off camera off camera, he will 1126 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 3: roast you. But the minute you say action and I'm like, 1127 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he's not that bad, but he made him 1128 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 3: like an idiot. 1129 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: That was totally wrong. 1130 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 3: Sorry, but he's not the same, Like it's not the 1131 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 3: same when it's all how do you like if you 1132 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 3: was to see that from the actor and you just say, damn, 1133 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 3: you know, I see off camera off camera you're fucking excellent. 1134 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 3: But once I say I. 1135 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 4: Spent I spend time off camera pulling get out of people, 1136 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 4: because I've had people like that too. Okay, really like 1137 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 4: they got that, but they don't. They're nervous. 1138 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: You know. 1139 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 4: It's like get out of yourself. You know. 1140 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 3: What helps them get out of that? What would help 1141 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 3: if you was to do that, is it liveies? 1142 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 4: Like it depends on the person. It depends on the person, like. 1143 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 6: Are you already hiring them or sending them to like 1144 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 6: a coaching class where they're like a little bit. 1145 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 4: Of both, a little bit of both, and you know, 1146 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 4: you know, I coach them and then you know, and 1147 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 4: then I have other people work with them too, you 1148 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 1149 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 3: Well, John Man, we robbed you for all your knowledge. 1150 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 3: You know, we are schooled, we are blessed, we are honored. 1151 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 3: I want to tell you you're one of the greatest 1152 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 3: artists of all time. And that's included everything at all 1153 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 3: art period. You were one of the greatest artists of 1154 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 3: all time. 1155 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: I was very honored. It's good. My boy Trevor told 1156 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: me you're John to do it. I was like, for real, 1157 00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 1: Like I was, I was so scared. 1158 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 3: I went I watched every interview you ever did that 1159 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 3: Google every I knew, I knew you personally, but I 1160 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 3: just wanted I wanted to appreciate your art and we 1161 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 3: did it. 1162 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 1: And man, I just can't tell you how much I 1163 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,359 Speaker 1: appreciate you. I want you to continue to do your. 1164 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 3: And continue to do your thing because we are proud 1165 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 3: of what you're doing in cinema and we watch everything 1166 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 3: and we support everything, and we're gonna continue to do that. 1167 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 3: This makes a noise for motherfucker Johnson and I'm still 1168 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 3: finishing my drink too as well.