WEBVTT - We ask Devon: Could there be another WWE run for The Dudleys?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone in and you are listening to Eyes up

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<v Speaker 1>here with dreamin the iHeartRadio Network or wherever you get podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, I am joined by my co host Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Chadster. How are we today?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm awesome. I have a new name for you

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<v Speaker 3>as well this week for me. Yes, for myself, I have.

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<v Speaker 4>A new name.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've renamed myself. Instead of the gesture of jubilation,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the gesture of jeering because I'm never jubilant.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm usually jeering.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that. Yes, I'm glad you finally

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<v Speaker 1>have come to the revelation.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well that's good. Oh you're happy. That's good just to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be here, but not in general.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. You're usually your miserable self. But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're happy today. We have a great guest

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming on in a couple of minutes. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>do just a quick recap. Anything going on in your

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<v Speaker 1>world that I need to know about.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, it's another in my world specifically, But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the wrestling world is pretty crazy right about now, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm loving every second of it. Say yeah, I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been this into, uh to what's going on in in

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<v Speaker 3>WWE in quite a while. Their television product has been pretty,

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<v Speaker 3>uh pretty goddamn entertaining, So I have to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>it's been quite fun to be a fan watching the product.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to Well, the main event story, I'll just say, is.

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<v Speaker 1>This because you're a mega rock fan.

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<v Speaker 5>I think maybe just because of the old school flavor

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<v Speaker 5>of the rock.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the rest of the players are doing their part too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just him, it's everybody else. It's it's Cody,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Roman, it's seth Rollins, it's Stepford, everybody, Paul Hayman,

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<v Speaker 3>it's everyone involved is doing their part. It's but it's

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<v Speaker 3>cool as a fan. So that's what Personally in my life,

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<v Speaker 3>my life's.

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<v Speaker 4>Always in chaos.

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<v Speaker 5>But from a wrestling point of view, I got to

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<v Speaker 5>say loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, that sounds good. I have not been watching

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<v Speaker 1>as usual, per yus with me trying to keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with it a little on social media, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really seen anything. And then again, like you know, Wrestle

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<v Speaker 1>Media Week and I'm gonna be extremely busy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I'll have a chance to watch, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'll watch it when I come home, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I hear it's it's good, which it probably will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's you know, let's just say that right now. But

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<v Speaker 1>like two nights, it's just it's just so much. God man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so. But it's cool if like you're a wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>fan and you have a bunch of friends who dig

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<v Speaker 1>it and you get some you know, some drinks or

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<v Speaker 1>some snacks and you're all like going over somebody's house

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<v Speaker 1>and hanging out like that makes it more fun. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those days are over for me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm here when you're younger and you're so

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<v Speaker 1>into the product and you have those wrestling buddies that

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<v Speaker 1>you can hang out with, that's a good time. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming there's gonna be a bunch of WrestleMania watch

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<v Speaker 1>parties out there and that's fun. So hopefully it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good show and everybody enjoys it. But yeah, yeah, right

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Myself got away with the kids this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband actually went to the Arnold Classic and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, if you know my husband, he is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of Arnold Twarzenegger if you go in

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<v Speaker 1>our gym, like, Arnold is everywhere. He's staring at me

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere I turned. And then he brought him more swag

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<v Speaker 1>that he got and it's more Arnold, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like, good lord Arnold, I want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's everywhere. He didn't get to meet him, but he

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Arnold was on the panel a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>so he got to see him. But he met a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the pro bodybuilders.

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<v Speaker 4>Michael hearn he met awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I don't know the other guy's names. He

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<v Speaker 1>was telling me a bunch of the guys he met,

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<v Speaker 1>but very cool and he had a really good time.

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<v Speaker 1>So I took the kids down to ac and did

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<v Speaker 1>a little swimming, a little cuisine, got to walk laps

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<v Speaker 1>around the casino, which was you know, that was our exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>just kept walking. It's hilarious because this one lady like

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<v Speaker 1>got a bonus on her slot machine, and my son goes,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, everybody stop, she has a bonus. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to watch and see what she would.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, kids, do not gamble. You save

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<v Speaker 1>your money, you buy houses and cars, and you do

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<v Speaker 1>not come here. You do not gamble. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>the place where we're We swim, we eat, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. So uh, it was fun, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it was It was a nice little getaway for

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<v Speaker 1>us and had.

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<v Speaker 2>A nice Time's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We do back. Yeah, no gambling when I'm with the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>No gambling, none, just found though I look around the

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<v Speaker 1>floor to see, like what machines are hitting, like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to I need to know what's going on, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like I'm always like because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids, you're not allowed to step on the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to stay on the marble floor. Kids are

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<v Speaker 1>not under twenty one, you're not allowed on the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>So my eyes are always open and I'm always looking around.

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<v Speaker 1>But no gambling, just a lot of fun. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. I can't wait till the boardwalk. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's warmer and the boardwalk still what is it still?

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<v Speaker 1>Peer Yeah? Still pier that opens up and we go

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<v Speaker 1>there and we go on the rides and go to

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<v Speaker 1>the beach and it's a good time. So really looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fun, fun stuff. And by the time you hear this,

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<v Speaker 1>my weekend I'll be over. But I'm in Chicka Laca Laco, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great show. Me and Sandman had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't wait to hear the travel stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, hopefully it'll be some some you know, shenanigans

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<v Speaker 1>going on, because there always is. It's never a smooth sale,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. There's always something. Hopefully it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not too bad, but when I'm with the Sandman,

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<v Speaker 1>anything can happen. So uh yeah, and Todd Gordon was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to come with us, and then his Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a story in itself. It would take me

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<v Speaker 1>an hour to explain. But everything that's screwed up and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's not coming. So it's uh, it's me, Hack

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<v Speaker 1>and Shane and I. You know, there's a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>like we said this before, a bunch of ECW people,

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<v Speaker 1>and again this is after the fact. I'm assuming I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time and we'll talk about it next

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<v Speaker 1>week more. But I was trying to get ready for

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<v Speaker 1>this and get my outfits ready.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this menopause is killing me. I gained weight again.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I'm dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fasting. I'm doing the inter minute fasting and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to watch what I eat and it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>it's killing me. I just don't know what else to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I have sympathy pains for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You should because it's very hard being a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very hard being a man.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully I want to go get out of here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so much harder.

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<v Speaker 4>Being a you know how, you know how I am.

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<v Speaker 5>I can drop weight like that, and right now I'm not.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm dropping no weight like this. I'm not doing are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you eating more? Because I'm not like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>eating more.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing my I'm not as strict as I've been

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<v Speaker 3>in past with diets. More about water drinking from me

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<v Speaker 3>and in the current situation, I mean, I can't have

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<v Speaker 3>access to water because I can't leave my designated areas

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<v Speaker 3>fast to use the restroom. Oh right, but but that's

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<v Speaker 3>a key factor for me, is water drinking and water

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<v Speaker 3>removal from my body.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good, I thought with my diet. But no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not just not seeing results. So I got sympathy pains

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<v Speaker 3>for you, right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's rough.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, can I just go to the plastic

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<v Speaker 1>surgeon and just light though my whole body. Just stick

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<v Speaker 1>that vacuum in me and suck everything out. If there's

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<v Speaker 1>facts that stuck out, I don't even know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what's going on. But I get on the

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<v Speaker 1>scale and I literally give the scale the double finger.

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<v Speaker 1>I get so mad every single time I get on

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<v Speaker 1>that scale because I'm you know, I'm watching what I eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to my protein, and now what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do is I'm trying to eat one meal

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<v Speaker 1>a day, which is not the healthy way to do

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<v Speaker 1>it because I don't get my You know, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to get your protein and equaling to your weight, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't come, you're my protein when I only won

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<v Speaker 1>meal a day, So that's screwing me up. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cut my calories, which they say you don't

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<v Speaker 1>cut your calories. So I don't know what I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in limbo right now. I'm so mad. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm struggling with. But you know, Hubbs doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want me to get any plastic surgery. He's like no.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, can I get my boobs done? He's

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<v Speaker 1>like no, can we get life? Oh no? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>get a lips? Done, no nothing. I'm one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>natural right now. I have nothing done to myself and

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<v Speaker 1>it shows. It shows that I'm natural. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get some stuff done. But Hubs said now, and

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<v Speaker 1>he put his foot down, so I have to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So this is a very good friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine who's tardy to the party. But I won't forgive

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<v Speaker 1>him today. Divon Dudley, hall of Famer, Hall of famer

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart, with the hall of Fame. I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh you k No, I was trying to find my pods.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, your mouth isn't look his mouth isn't in sync

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<v Speaker 1>with what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 4>He's here, and that's what's important.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't look at your mouth. I'm gonna look. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stare into your eyes. My dear, how are you,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good, doing good, not bad, not bad. Get

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<v Speaker 2>in sleep no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So let me just let me just say. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Florida, I got to have dinner with

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<v Speaker 1>Devon and his lovely wife and his lovely, lovely children.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're a handful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh God, you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Gorgeous family, beautiful, beautiful children. But the two little Are

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<v Speaker 1>they four and five? The girls?

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<v Speaker 2>The girl? Yes, they're four and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so four and five years old. I'm thinking they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like dainty, very sweet, which they were very sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>but because of their dad, they wrestled the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>We were trying to like sit and like have like

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<v Speaker 1>an adult cushion. They were body slamming each other, throwing

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<v Speaker 1>each other into the There was a glass coffee table

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<v Speaker 1>in our room, and I was just like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>they were crazy. So yeah, your daughters, your your daughters

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<v Speaker 1>are beautiful. They took a liking to me. They were

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<v Speaker 1>holding my hand, giving me hugs. I love that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I love children. But your son, oh my god. So

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<v Speaker 1>this baby, I'm not naming names because I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you want out there in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But this bab okay oh so dj oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>this baby six weeks old at the time, this little

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<v Speaker 1>tiny creature. I have been longing to hold a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't held a baby in years. It's been years

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<v Speaker 1>because no one I know has children like tiny babies.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing when they get out of the van,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, am I about to hold him. I ended up, didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up holding that baby for like the whole

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<v Speaker 1>time you guys were there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>This kid has the strongest neck that I've ever witnessed

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<v Speaker 1>in his head was constantly back just staring at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this lady? This is not my mother? But it

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice because you know, I've seen you at

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<v Speaker 1>conventions and stuff, but it was just so nice being

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<v Speaker 1>able to just sit there and like break bread and

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<v Speaker 1>just shoot the shit and not worry about working.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's always to me.

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<v Speaker 6>It's always a pleasure to do something like that when

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<v Speaker 6>you are with friends, especially from the past and people

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<v Speaker 6>that you created history with, just to sit relaxed, talk

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<v Speaker 6>about some of the old stories but then talk about

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<v Speaker 6>some new stuf stories that we might not know of

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<v Speaker 6>or remember and uh or that we should say that

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<v Speaker 6>we created. So it's always good for that. I love

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<v Speaker 6>I love doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a lot of fun and I was

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<v Speaker 1>I was glad we made it happen, and hopefully next

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<v Speaker 1>year if we uh, if we come back, we'll do

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<v Speaker 1>it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I talked about your daughters. Now some people

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<v Speaker 1>may not know this, most do, but your sons, your

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<v Speaker 1>twins are actually doing things in the business. Now, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about them a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>So Talenton Twell, they did a couple of things in

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<v Speaker 6>a w They were in a huge storyline with Pope

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<v Speaker 6>and myself and TNA.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've been they've been around for a while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing that thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I mean I get asked about them more

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<v Speaker 6>than when people come to see me at the autograph

0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.760
<v Speaker 6>signing as your sons. Oh, yes, sons were here. Your

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<v Speaker 6>sons were there. Your sons are over they're over there.

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<v Speaker 6>Listen that I'm not. I was nowhere near as over

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<v Speaker 6>as my boys.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a great storyline, it was. It was intense

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<v Speaker 3>at some points. You know, they were they were a

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<v Speaker 3>big part.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the show. Yeah, they were.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they were only they were the only high

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<v Speaker 6>school kids at the time that I knew that was

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<v Speaker 6>on pay per view and making money.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's about absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk. Let's talk. Let's put you over and

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about you. Who cares about your kids? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about you.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling people might not know you had

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<v Speaker 1>surgery about a year ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had back surgery.

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<v Speaker 6>They fused there four or five and then that's one

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<v Speaker 6>I sometimes, you know, I was just talking to DDP

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<v Speaker 6>because I've been I've been having like little chronic pains

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<v Speaker 6>in the lower back, and that comes with surgery. So

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<v Speaker 6>there's nothing abnormal. You know, when the weather's cold, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the body or the back hurts. When it rains, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the back hurts. So it's stuff like that, And it

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<v Speaker 6>kind of made me walk a little funny sometimes, like

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a limp, just because there's no

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<v Speaker 6>cushion in between in your spine and in the vertebrates

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<v Speaker 6>this cushion, so when you walk and you come down,

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<v Speaker 6>you have that cushion as opposed to boom like you know,

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<v Speaker 6>born on bone. So sometimes it happens if I don't

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<v Speaker 6>stretch or take the time to really you know, move

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<v Speaker 6>the lower limbs where I should, you know, that limp

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<v Speaker 6>will come on. I'm like, oh, man, I forgot the stretch.

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<v Speaker 6>I got to get back on the floor and stretch. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it just comes with the territory. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fine, No, no big deals.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't stretch before you came to see me? Because

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<v Speaker 1>he was walking in front of me elevator, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, old man, yell, a little limp going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was limping right behind him, so it's okay. Dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about all our ailments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish I would have saw DDP first, be

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<v Speaker 2>far had the surgery would be different. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>It's you know, I've seen testimonies from other people that

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<v Speaker 6>DDP has helped.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>There was just a new testimony by Butterbean where he

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<v Speaker 6>could bully, he couldn't even walk, and now he's walking

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<v Speaker 6>straight up talking about having another boxing match. There's another

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<v Speaker 6>guy that I first heard about. He used to jump

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<v Speaker 6>out of the airplanes and basically had the two not

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<v Speaker 6>walking but the two uh with crutches that hooks onto

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<v Speaker 6>his forearms, and he was walking like that he could

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<v Speaker 6>barely move.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's running marathons and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was like, man, if I would have went

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<v Speaker 6>to see him first, it could have maybe worked.

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<v Speaker 2>May not, you know, maybe you wouldn't have got the surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying I wouldn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would have. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have gotten it.

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<v Speaker 6>I would have tried the DDP yoga first and his

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<v Speaker 6>methods on how he's helped people all before I went

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<v Speaker 6>and got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I did.

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<v Speaker 6>I tried everything possible before I had the surgery to

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<v Speaker 6>alleviate the pain and all of that, and nothing seemed

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<v Speaker 6>to work. So the only thing that was left was

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<v Speaker 6>back surgery.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know they, I mean, look at the job

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<v Speaker 1>that we had for the longest time. And the people

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<v Speaker 1>always say like, oh, well, if you go to wrestling school,

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<v Speaker 1>they teach you how to bump correctly, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you bump correctly or don't bump correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>Your body is going through trauma every single day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not normal to take a excuse me to take a

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<v Speaker 1>back bump or to you know, fly off the top.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not normal. And every little move you make

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<v Speaker 1>is trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, God never intended your body to do things like that. No, man,

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<v Speaker 2>did you know?

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<v Speaker 6>We had to take each other down and show who

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<v Speaker 6>was strong strong like bull and next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 6>pro wrestling was from.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, everybody, well, if you trained, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be okay, and it's just like dude, no, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not okay. You can take one bump your whole life,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't have to be a wrestler. You can

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<v Speaker 1>trip down the stairs and screw your whole body up

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of your life. So continuing to you know,

0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.160
<v Speaker 1>bump every night like you guys did, you're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>across some health issues.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, sometimes I look, I go, God, look at

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 6>Jeff Hardy. You know, look at Jeff Hardy, look at

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<v Speaker 6>rv D. Some of the things that they've done, they

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<v Speaker 6>didn't need back, So what the hell am I doing wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>They're still going?

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<v Speaker 2>Which is still going?

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<v Speaker 1>I heard a little birdie, not so little big birdie

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<v Speaker 1>by the name of Bubba Ray Dudley, and he was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe you guys are gonna do another loop

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<v Speaker 1>around the world or something as a tag team.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we talked about it. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, you know that we're gonna give give you

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<v Speaker 6>with the greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we don't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 6>To try to reinvent the wheel or anything like that

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<v Speaker 6>where you know, we go back. We're gonna just give

0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.919
<v Speaker 6>the fans exactly what they like and what they missed.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're gonna hit the greatest hits It's kind like Kiss,

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<v Speaker 6>the rock group Kiss, you know, when they when they

0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.920
<v Speaker 6>were they had to make up on and doing all

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<v Speaker 6>the old songs, rock and roll all night, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all of those good hits. People loved them. The minute

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<v Speaker 6>they took that makeup off, it was over. Fifth was over,

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.840
<v Speaker 6>and you know, and then they started coming up with

0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 6>new songs, and some of them were good, but they weren't.

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<v Speaker 6>They weren't the classics. They weren't what Kiss was known for.

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<v Speaker 6>The minute Kiss put the makeup on and went back

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<v Speaker 6>on tour and started doing those you know, those classics,

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<v Speaker 6>it was like it was like a resurge in the

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<v Speaker 6>arm for Kiss, you know, and they just started all

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<v Speaker 6>over again. So now that's what me and Bubba was saying.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we don't have to go out there and

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<v Speaker 6>try to, you know, reinvent the wheel on tag team wrestling,

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 6>or try to have five star matches.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go out there and have fun and hit

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Nostalgia. Nostalgia, that's what people want.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you could give it to him. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>see the what's up? What's up?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, maybe we'll do the what's up when Bubba's up

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<v Speaker 6>on that top rop doing so reverse it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're just holding legs open, just holding them. Hey,

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a good position to be in fun. Man, hold

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the woman's legs open or guy, if you're into that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Three D maybe, oh yeah, definitely three D, which I

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>told him the other day. I would have taken that

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<v Speaker 1>from you. Guys, no problem, it never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, never happened. You got away, you were protected.

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.240
<v Speaker 1>They got away.

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<v Speaker 6>You were protected by three of the toughest men, and

0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:18.159
<v Speaker 6>Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow and Chris Candido, so the

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<v Speaker 6>Dudleys couldn't touch at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But I also feel like if you came into

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:26.959
<v Speaker 1>the company earlier than you did, you would have been

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.200
<v Speaker 1>feuding with the pit Bulls, and I would have taken.

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<v Speaker 2>That from you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean again, that would have been the Dudley's.

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<v Speaker 6>We did actually work together. My first match I think

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 6>a c W arena. It was me and Bubba versus

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<v Speaker 6>the pit bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>Was with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, you were with them and you beat the hell out.

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Of uh oh Chubby and dancing dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>You had these seven inch I'm gonna say there was

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<v Speaker 2>seven inches.

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<v Speaker 6>And were standing on freaking uh dancing with Dudley's freaking

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 6>going back and forth, up and down, trying to keep

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 6>him down till you were trying to beat them up.

0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 6>I remember looking at that, I go, this is not wrestling.

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I go, what the hell am I doing here?

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Wwf, Hey, that's what I was told to do, you know?

0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:23.679
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, I know, and I remember you you basically

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 6>I see I turn around and see that, and then

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 6>I start going after you, like walking towards you. It

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 6>was like Jason going after the girl that he.

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Wants to kill somebody that slow you know, ye to

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the girl.

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<v Speaker 6>And we were doing that around the ring until I

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 6>believe Anthony jumped down and hit me in the back

0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 6>of the head of the ring.

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:44.399
<v Speaker 2>And then that was the night that you got a

0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 2>power bomb?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it?

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You? So later we did the four corners match, I

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 1>suppose yep. So it's funny because we didn't work together

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.760
<v Speaker 1>too much, but there's one match and when I had

0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Bubba on and I wish I could we could pull

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it up to show you it because it's hilarious. I

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I didn't have anybody to work with

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that evening. But Paul made me come out when the

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Dudleys were in the ring. It was I think, I

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>guess it was a house show. It was never for TV.

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And I they make me come out in this big jacket, right,

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and I you know I've addressed someone underneath it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I try to entice you and I take the

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<v Speaker 1>jacket off and you do the wa wouza with the eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such goga. It was ridiculous. I end up

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.640
<v Speaker 1>beating up all of you, and then Spike comes out

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and does like some kind of death like the death

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 1>drop or something. Help the acid drop. That's right. But

0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I gave like I gave Bubba ddp's diamond cutter, I

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>did something to you. I gave Lou a regular d

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 1>d T. I mean, it was ridiculous. I beat up

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<v Speaker 1>your whole clan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you by taking out by Francine. And then

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 2>forty days later, I'm on the podcast, Well we were all.

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>When I look back and I say to myself, my god,

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:17.800
<v Speaker 1>here I am one hundred and seventeen pounds soaking wet.

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>I got all these big men around me, and I'm

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>beating the shit out of everybody. It is so not believable,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>but it was just like a little haha, gaga spot

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to fill. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The great thing about stuff like that is when you

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 6>look back at it, Yes, realistically, a woman in your

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 6>side should not have been able to take out three

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 6>guys outside. But back then ECW did things like that,

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 6>and even though it didn't make sense, when you look

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 6>at it, it was very entertaining.

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>It was how we did it right and how we

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>pulled it off.

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 6>I got the reaction as opposed to some people that

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 6>do things that don't make sense and then there's no reaction.

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 6>We put a lot of entertainment and stuff like that

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.919
<v Speaker 6>to even though people knew that it could never happen,

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 6>maybe it's a possibility it can because ECW is telling

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 6>that story and that was just what we did. When

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 6>you look at some of the matches that we did,

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:11.960
<v Speaker 6>oh my god, I cringe.

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Thing. What's the worst match that you had to do?

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>That you look back and you say to myself, good lord,

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. E c W.

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm not gonna say I mean we had

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 6>great matches, but and I'll get to that question. What

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 6>I was saying was it was like we're sitting up there,

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 6>and when you look at some of the things that

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 6>we're doing, stuff in front of the referee, you know,

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 6>the referees watching and it's not being a dq or

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 6>outside for like five twenty minutes on the outside of

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 6>the ring.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like, what the hell were we thinking?

0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 6>But because we made it so entertaining and because we

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:52.360
<v Speaker 6>captivated an audience the way we did, people suspended that

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 6>and just didn't even think about the rules or what

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 6>didn't make sense.

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>We made them believe it at that point.

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>Because the other people were following the rules. The other

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 1>companies were cookie cutter following the rules, and we took

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it outside the box and did things differently.

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>That's why we were That's why we were the Nevada

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Nevadavana Nevana.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 6>We were the Nevana of pro wrestling. There's no different

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.600
<v Speaker 6>than Nirvana Nevana. When you know you have Martley Crue, Metallica,

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, all these hair bands that are just killing

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 6>it in the eighties, and it didn't seem like anybody

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 6>was going to take them down. Then Navana came in

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 6>and just kicked down the door and said, nope, we're

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 6>breaking the rules. We're gonna be sad, pissed off. We're

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 6>gonna tell you how we feel. I mean, because you

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 6>know when you when you look at that type of music,

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 6>you're like, oh my god, I just I want to

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 6>murder myself.

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sad, you.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Know, and it's like, oh my god, it's that Seattle

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 6>feel that they you know, that you always hear about.

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 6>But you know, it was one of those things where

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 6>when Havana did that, it just opened up.

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.719
<v Speaker 2>A whole new door for music.

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 6>And it was what we did and we see W

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 6>we kicked the door down and did the opposite of

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:05.719
<v Speaker 6>what should have been done right.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>But when we did it, we did it good and

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 2>did it.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Very entertaining and fun.

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, So I forgot what the other question was.

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>When you look back at your career, it doesn't even

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be in ECW, just matches that you've been

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>a part of you. You were saying, like you look

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>back sometimes and you say, oh my god, so cringe.

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I cringe when I think of that the worst, the

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>worst thing, or the worst angle that you've been a

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>part of. That you look back in your because there's

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>things that I've done or clothes that I've worn that

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm embarrassed. I'm like, what was I thinking? Like where

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>did this come from? Like this was such a bad choice.

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.679
<v Speaker 1>Anything that you've ever done that you look back and

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, oh my god.

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.920
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, t and a TNA match pay per view,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 6>the fish market, street fight.

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>The fish market.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, they had fish line, they had fish on ice.

0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 6>Oh h and nothing to that. This has nothing to

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 6>do with Curryman, who was Christopher Daniels and shock Boy.

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 6>Loved those guys, love working with them. But I hated this.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't like fish. I don't eat fish. I hate

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 6>the smell of fish. And it's real fish on ice,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.760
<v Speaker 6>like like you had a fish market, and of course

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 6>you know people picking fish up and throwing it and

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 6>hitting people with it. I remember looking at curry Man.

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 6>I said, listen, do not hit me. Would a guy

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 6>with a fish?

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, you do? It becomes real. Do not hit me.

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Do not hit me at all with a fish gimmick?

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Like, what's the point it was?

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Vince russo Enough said, I.

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Have never like does that make sense.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>To go to Well, it wasn't it?

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 6>You had it was a regular match, But yeah, they

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 6>go outside and take the fish and hit each other

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 6>as a weapon. Now that was where the rules were, like,

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 6>Oh it was It's like a street fight. There are

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 6>no rules in a street fight. You can have a

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 6>regular match, but you can use weapons.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>God, I would throw up.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I threw out my wrestling gear. Oh it was that bad.

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>What if somebody just picked up a fish and just

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>smacked you across the face?

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, Curry and Curry Man Daniels a great but shock

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Boy forgot that. I said that to him. He got

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>caught up in a moment and he took the fish.

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>He hit me. As soon as he hit me, I went, potato, God,

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 2>goddamn fish.

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm gonna have to look that match

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>up because I have never I've never even heard of

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>that one.

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>It was good. I hated that match to this day.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I said it was the worst match because again I

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>never liked it. And I remember telling I remember saying

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>something to Russo. I said, we have to do this match. Oh, bro,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. Bro, it's

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be good. I'm telling me, people gonna love it. Bro,

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be great. And I'm like, you feel a ship.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>He goes no, bubbas. He goes bubbas, He goes Bubba's uh,

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Bubba's cool with it. I looked at Bubba, he goes.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Bubba's face.

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like russo you're lying. I was like, this

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 2>is a god awful, man.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>This How how many like big fish were there? Like?

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Did they have boxes of fish around the ring?

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Is that?

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 6>You ever go you ever go to Chinatown or market?

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 6>It was a fish market, you know, like the little trade.

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 6>The big trays that they had they filled up with

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 6>ice and then they put the fish on top.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it was just like one one.

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 6>They had like a whole line of it. They had, yeah,

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 6>and they had fish and all that on there.

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 2>It was. It was bad. The smell was horrible.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>The fans like, I mean, did stars ship Nelson?

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 2>He's never given me five stars and any of the

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>man it gives.

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Me negative stars.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Not even in the freaking TLC match. I think we

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>got like two.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's terrible.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>But while people still talk about those matches today thirty

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 2>something years were awesome. Still please but so, I mean,

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what his problem was.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 6>But you know, hey, it is what it is his

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 6>own what well, you know, you. Two guys may see

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 6>a wrestling match and love it, and I may hate it,

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 6>but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna, you know, out

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 6>of one to ten stars, I'm gonna go, okay, get

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 6>to two. It may get it two for me, but

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 6>not not not everybody else should you know, take it

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 6>as you know, you know everybody else.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Is gonna look at it. The two match.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just feel like I feel like back then

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>e c W never got like not that it means

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>anything but the rating system from him, but I feel

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like none of our guys got a lot of stars

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>for the match.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.959
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know a lot of our guys didn't like him.

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 2>It was pissed off at him.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 6>But I also know that you're right, none of us

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 6>got any of those stuff. But remember a lot of

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 6>people thought e CW was barbaric, right, They didn't like ECW,

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 6>even some of the veterans in WCW or WWE.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that wwf Y.

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 6>You know, basically did not know or understand what we

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 6>were doing, and they would saying and a lot of

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 6>them would say.

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>What we were doing was garbage and this and that.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 6>Until the fans started catching on and watching and then

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 6>showing their love and support, and you couldn't go to

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 6>an arena that wasn't an ECW show, but it was

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 6>like a w CW or WWE show where the fans

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 6>would hijack the show and start channing Ecwright. You know,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 6>it was then that people's eyes started to wake up. So,

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, Nelson might not have believed in what we

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 6>were doing, but that's fine. But again, what is it thirty.

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Thirty thirty forty?

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 4>I feel like it makes me feel too.

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not quite close to it, but.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>People still talk about it. You know. It's it's all

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>those things where it's unbelievable. Yeah, oh my, can we.

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Just can I just take this in right now? We're

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>so the fish We're for those listening, Uh, we're watching

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the Fish Market Street Fight right now from two thousand

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and eight TNA Destination x So. Buba's going for a

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>fish for Shark Boys. Shark Boy's going for a net

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to let y'all know. Oh, Buba's moving to the fish. Okay. Oh,

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>shark Boy's got him in the net.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Okay, No, that's a curry.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's curryman. Oh I saw the Oh okay, I'm

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>sorry I thought that was a fin on his head. Okay,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>so that's Christopher Daniels. Yes, oh yeah, now I see

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>his eyes okay, good and yeah he's he's uh ah,

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:10.879
<v Speaker 1>he's dancing. Look at that. Yeah, curry man, I don't

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>remember this gimmick dropping to the dish. I would die

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>gross gross gross gross. That is disgusting.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 5>Far as far away could be away.

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 6>From them, I don't think.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine you're so excited for a pay per view,

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>You're a big TNA fan, you can't wait to see

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the Dudley's right, You buy a ticket, you're in the

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>front row, you think you got good seats, and then

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they put a box of fish next to you and

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.479
<v Speaker 1>you gotta smell it for like twenty minutes. You gotta spell,

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>which would linger probably for the next two hours because

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it stinks.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, it sounds like it sounds like

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>some of my earlier dates.

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>But enough to travel Lodge, I want to get back.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You were saying that like the that's looked at us

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>as like the Flood and Guts company and too much

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and blah blah bluh. I remember we did a house

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>show one night and we it was like a mixed tag.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>He did, right, And we were doing all these like

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>cool spots and this and that, and I mean, we've

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>probably had like maybe five hundred to one thousand people

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>in the building. It was a house show. Terry Taylor

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was there just visiting, and we come through the curtain

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and he stops us and he looks at all of

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>us and he says, why'd you work so hard? I'll

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>never forget this. It blew my mind. And I said,

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, and he goes, why'd you just work so

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>hard out there? It's a house show. I couldn't wrap

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>my head around that reasoning, and I I said, point blank,

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you know, I said, if we drew

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>five hundred tonight, maybe they'll tell a friend and maybe

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 1>next time we come, we'll have a thousand people. Because

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we work hard. That's what we do here. And he goes, well,

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he goes, when we do the we just do the

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>same match in every city and it's easy and we

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 1>save our energy for TV. See now you're laughing. I

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I wasn't a VET at this time.

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of green, so I didn't want to

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>argue with the guy. But I'm thinking that kind of

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>mentality is shit, Why would you do it that way?

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 2>We did something. I didn't learn about that in terms

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>of doing stuff like that until I got to WWE, right,

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>because vets from the eighties were still there late eighties

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that is, and you know they had a lot of

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>them had the same mentality because it was the old

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 2>school way of thinking. So the new school way of.

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.080
<v Speaker 6>Thinking, like you were describing how you felt about it,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 6>it hadn't really registered yet.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>It was just that, you know, let's get out, let's

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>get through this match and get to the next town

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 2>and help you know, get the TV with no injuries.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's just the way it was.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, But as as a couple, you know, sometime went on,

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, some of the vets, you know, we would

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 6>do somewhat similar the same match, but we would change

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>a little bit off right, you know, to make it

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 6>a little bit different because you never know who drove,

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 6>you know, three four hundred miles to the next town,

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 6>and you know, you don't want them predicting what we

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 6>had already done in the town the night before. So

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was always we changed it up a

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 6>little bit, not too much, just a little.

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Bit, but that's and that's fine because we we we

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>would do like the same thing. We changed some spots

0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>here and there. But to say, why did you work

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>so hard? To me, that's the first thing that came

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth when we came in the back.

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Why'd you work so hard out there? And I'm thinking

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to myself, why wouldn't we work hard like they bought

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.720
<v Speaker 1>it to get, just like you would buy a ticket

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.720
<v Speaker 1>if it was a pay per viewer or a TV taming.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if Terry Taylor would actually agree with

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 6>that method now, being that he is one of the

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 6>producers and NXT and I say that because you know,

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 6>you got to teach these kids they have to work

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 6>work hard for what they.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Do, not just to get the TV.

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 6>So I'm sure Terry Taylor is being a producer on

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 6>the live events and this and that, I don't think

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:30.719
<v Speaker 6>he has that same mentality.

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Anymore, even though he's not wrestling.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 6>But again, I understand what he meant by that because

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 6>that was the way they did things back then.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Didn't make it necessarily make it right, yeah, but.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, necessarily make it wrong, but didn't necessarily make

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 6>it right either. But that was just the way they

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 6>were able to save their bodies, you know, because remember

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 6>back then, being on the road for fifty days straight

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 6>or forty to fifty days.

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Straight was normal.

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 6>Yes, so they were home maybe three to four days,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 6>maybe a week if they were lucky. So you know,

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 6>they were constantly traveling in out of cars, some airplanes

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 6>and things like that. So they were really trying to

0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 6>conserve their body. Yeah, not really, but I definitely understand

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 6>both ways. But I understand Terry's logic and thinking of it,

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 6>and I definitely understand your way of lodge and thinking

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 6>of it.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Because that's what we did fifty five years ago when

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 1>we were just starting sixty. We've been here for seven

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>years since. Mc man. Any comments, Oh Man, did you

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>hear about what's going on?

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I heard.

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm still shocked at a lot of stuff that I've

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 6>read and heard.

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:44.959
<v Speaker 1>But you know, scene anything, scene, I.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Never saw it.

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.919
<v Speaker 6>Now, even though it wasn't producer, I've never seen any

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 6>foul play or anything like that. I wasn't the ones

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 6>that if foul play was going on, I would have

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 6>been done in front of me, you know, I was.

0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't part of the system.

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 6>And anyway way, shape or form if anything like that

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:07.400
<v Speaker 6>was going on, never legate allegedly.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>We don't know if it's true.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I have no idea.

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just do you think he's guilty?

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't know. I don't know.

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Sat get it out of every guest. I try to

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:22.919
<v Speaker 1>pull it. It's not there, it's not there.

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>It's fine. Look, sometimes we could sit here and say.

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.879
<v Speaker 6>All day long that a person didn't do something swooping down.

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 6>Then all of a sudden, some huge evidence or something

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 6>happens where that person is found guilty without a shadow

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 6>of a doubt, and they we're like, wait a minute,

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 6>we would have never believed it in a million years,

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 6>you know, And you know what happened. And there's some

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 6>people that are, you know, presume guilty, and yet the

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 6>evidence show that they weren't guilty. So you know, you

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 6>gotta let it play out in court and see what

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 6>the judge thinks. And I'm sure he's gonna be judged

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 6>by you know, a good jury of his peers, and

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 6>and you know whatever, I think it's holding off in Connecticut.

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 6>You know, let them decide what they're going to do

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 6>with it and go from there. I mean, well know,

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 6>well know eventually whether it was true or not, and

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 6>even whether the.

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Verdict is uh, guilty or not guilty.

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, you know, if he was found innocent, you know,

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 6>there'd be a lot of people saying, I know he

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 6>was guilty, he was guilty and this and that it's

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 6>still bad and he was found guilty.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew it. I know, you just never know.

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Very pc answer, it's fine.

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Mustache, Yeah, what do you think?

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you like it?

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not used to it. I'm used to

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.279
<v Speaker 2>clean shade vents. I've never seen him with a mustache

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 2>or beard or go tea or anything.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 6>And when we first saw it, they kind of threw

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 6>a lot of us off and we I think uh

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 6>one of the other producers in the when I was

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 6>working with we we were in the outside of the

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 6>meeting and they would show me.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what the hell? I said, who is that?

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 2>And then like I was like, fucking mustag?

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:13.879
<v Speaker 1>Wow, travel ot story. Do you have one?

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I several?

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I know you have several. Do you have one that

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.879
<v Speaker 1>you can share that's funny off the top of your head.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't have the name names. You can call them

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Larry melanchurly if you want not to put anybody in

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>an awkward spot. I gotta have one that you could tell.

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, because I got.

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 6>Besides me getting so drunk, you know, here it is.

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:38.759
<v Speaker 6>You know, I was, you know, a small kid from

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 6>book They never really did anything.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Never a small kid from Brooklyn.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Small kid from Brooklyn.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't put Devon Dudley and small in the same category.

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 2>But okay, I didn't start gaining wait until it really

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 2>after my fourth or fifty year in the wrestling and

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>then when I got to E c W, because that's

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>when I started taking, you know, taking training seriously.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 6>I should have took it seriously back when I was starting,

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:05.120
<v Speaker 6>but I didn't. I was just trying to learn how

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 6>to wrestle.

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Right right. So tell me the story. You got so drunk.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>Where were we were?

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>We somewhere we were We had the travel arget and

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>we went that bar downstairs and I just remember not

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.680
<v Speaker 2>ever going out drinking like that ever. And I had

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 2>to get carried out of the bar up to my room.

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.719
<v Speaker 2>At least I thought it was my room. Somebody put

0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:34.439
<v Speaker 2>me somebody else in the room. So I pass out.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>I wake up and this guy goes, hey, Divine, I go,

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck. I go, Yeah, who the hell are you?

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Why are you in my room? He goes, Divine, you're

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in my room. I was like, it's like, who the

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 2>hell are you? It was some fan.

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, you've been sitting here watching me sleep. He goes,

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to wake you.

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Wait, wait a minute, who brought you up there? Did

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you ever find y'all?

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't got passed out.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I wonder because it's funny because we were talking about

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>this at dinner in Florida and Devon was like, man,

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.839
<v Speaker 1>he goes, when I came to ECW the first time,

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>he goes, I was scared. He goes, I didn't do

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>any of the stuff y'all were doing. I go, I

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't do it either, And I still didn't do it

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>when I Yeah, we drank, but we weren't part of

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>the drug crowd like our party and was going to

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the bar and having a couple of cocktails and stuff.

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>But we you know, we weren't there snorting cocaine or

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>doing lines off the stripper. I mean, I wasn't anyway.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't.

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Know. I didn't know anything about bills nothing, right, I

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 2>knew nothing about that.

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he was so cute. He's like, oh my god,

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>he goes. I looked around and I was just so scared,

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah. But after a while, it

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 1>just becomes like the norm. And you know, we were

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>all friends, but everybody had the clicks that they hung

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>out with.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 1>If you didn't do drugs, you didn't hang out with

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the drug people. But we once we were in the

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>locker room, we all hung out together.

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was so it was really cool, like transtance.

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>You know. A guy, some kid came over and looked

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>at Sam and and said, is he all right?

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.360
<v Speaker 6>But I said, no, he's just drunk. He's probably sleeping.

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 6>The guy goes, he's on next. I said, I don't

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.879
<v Speaker 6>worry about it. As soon as his music hit, somebody

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 6>that's happened, and he'll get right up.

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>It's great. Yeah, And that's what's great about it. Do

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you remember the night that Tammy started the fight with

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mummers. You had to have been there, you had

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>to have been in it. She went outside in the

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>back in the parking lot, you know, out the back door.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember the Mummers were on top of where we were,

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>on top of the arena, and she said something to

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the mummers, and I think one of the

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>mummers called her a slut or something, and she caused

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a riot that night. And I swear you and Bubba

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>were there and everybody ran out the door and started

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>fighting the mummers.

0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think I was there.

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I swear you were there.

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 2>If he gave me a year, because remember we left,

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>we left in ninety nine.

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the year was. I swear you

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>were in there. Knew Jack was was like shanking people,

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>probably like it was a mess. But there were three

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>people who didn't go outside, me Shane Douglas and Hack

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Sandman and Sandman Status he was doing lines of coke. Well,

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody was fighting, and Man Shane were looking out the

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>window watching the fight. But everybody because Tammy started this fight,

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 1>and I sware you were in it.

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you guys were in it. I don't think we

0:46:41.120 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 2>were there for that one.

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna have to ask if he remembers that,

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 1>because I vividly do. And the whole locker room poured

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 1>out and just everybody was fighting in the parking lot.

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't remember ever having getting into a fight

0:46:54.320 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 6>and at the ECW Arena.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 6>I mean other places I remember getting into fights like

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 6>Staten Island or you know, a lost Battalion hall in Queens,

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 6>but I don't remember getting a fight at the DCW

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 6>arena with fans.

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>The fight the fights that you got in, was it

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>because of the promos that you and and Bubba you know, dictated,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>because some of those were really.

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the one in Staten Island was really raunchy and

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 6>bad and if you could believe it, it even beat

0:47:26.719 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 6>the heat Waved ninety nine one, and you know the

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 6>one that we're most famous for. And somebody took a

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.640
<v Speaker 6>swipe at Big Dick Dudley.

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Why they do that?

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 6>He jumped the railing and went after the guy and

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:43.000
<v Speaker 6>next thing you know, me and Bubba goes deevint, we

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 6>gotta go, we gotta go. I was like, oh shit,

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 6>And I remember jumped the railing.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>I went out to go. People are jumping on us,

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 2>swinging on us. So Bubba goes devon, he goes assume

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the position. I was like, here we go. We turned

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:58.719
<v Speaker 2>to the ball, we talked about the balls. Boom.

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.360
<v Speaker 6>It was like a brawdroom fight with freaking Patrick Swayze

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 6>and Roadhouse, all the people that it was freaking phenomenal,

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 6>and then all of a sudden, the riot cops came

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 6>with the dogs and I was like, all right, stop

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.359
<v Speaker 6>this ship, go back in the ring.

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>The riot cops came with the dogs, and the locker

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>room fled because how many people had on the crazy

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to plug your socials or any appearances

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>that you have coming up?

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be in Ohio and god.

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Lockwood, Chicka Cop. I'm there to this weekend. But this

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>airs after this weekend. Are you there Saturday?

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm there too.

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you. Oh yeah, I'm gonna be there too.

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah about being Chilicoppy Ohio and doing all of that

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.720
<v Speaker 6>good stuff. And I'll also be at the big event

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 6>in Long Island me too, coming up.

0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'll be there for that one.

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh and then the big one Wrestle Con weekend.

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's weekend. I'll be there for that.

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>One and Icons and and Battleground at the area double duty.

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I get to see Devon. I'm so excited. I'll see

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you so many times.

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, this is awesome.

0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy. Well, I appreciate you coming. Devon's two timer. Now,

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>we were aiming for the five time Club. I have

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>guess this is your No, you're not a two timer, Taylor.

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>He's not a two tim uh No, like I think

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Shane Douglas. Shane, I think is the first one to

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the five time Club on Saturday Night Live.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever see it with Steve Morton? He's like,

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a five timer. They do that. They have a

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>VIP layer. So you're a two timer. So you have

0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to come on three more times to be in my club.

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll be good to go, where to go whenever you want.

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I love you, buddy. Well, thank you for coming on again.

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I was so happy to see you a couple months ago.

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll do it again when we can. But well, let's

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>hang you out this weekend. Coming up, I'm sorry, we'll

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>hang you out this weekend.

0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely sweet. I just gotta get me a

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 2>nice steak and I'll be good to go.

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe we can do dinner. Are you on the

0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>night show too, because I'm not.

0:50:23.280 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just sniging. We're not in chilli coffee.

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh you have a you have a you're driving somewhere else.

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:32.280
<v Speaker 2>No, no about chilli coffee.

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, chilli coffee.

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh there's a night show.

0:50:34.960 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>There's a night show.

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that. Yeah.

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>They put me on the poster and they were like, oh,

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 1>she's doing the night show. I go, I am not

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>no way. And I think they thought because I was there,

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I would just graciously just do it for free.

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>No, I was like, no, I don't know. That's not happening.

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 1>So after I sign them off, so maybe we can

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>do dinner or something.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do it.

0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Let's get all well, I'll see you there.

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 2>You got.

0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Was always open for you though. All right, everybody, Devon

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>go follow him, go go buy Yes, there you go.

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, buddy, I'll talk to you too.

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Bye.

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>So fun.

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Divon testified they were some they were some good stories

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 3>from Dalner.

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, yeah, this was.

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:31.399
<v Speaker 1>This was really good. I was happy to see him again.

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, we we reminisced at dinner. Those I mean,

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>if those wolves can talk, we were. We were just

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>telling stories and we were popping each other because things

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that I didn't remember, things that he didn't remember. And

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>eighty seven years went by and it was like it

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>was yesterday. So it was great.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's awesome about Devon and I'm sure fans that

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 3>listened to this met him in person. The intensity that

0:51:56.280 --> 0:52:00.160
<v Speaker 3>he has on air complete opposite when he when.

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 4>He's so awesome to listen to.

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:05.440
<v Speaker 3>He's so chill, hang it out, and he's he's laughing,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, like so yeah, it's great.

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>He's great.

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:08.560
<v Speaker 2>He's great.

0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he came back on. That was a good one.

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.719
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0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.399
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0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.680
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0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.520
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0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.040
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<v Speaker 4>I get a notification as well on my laptop.

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, yes, because of the my notification set up,

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 3>so I do get the same on my iPhone and

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I get the same on my computer.

0:52:56.320 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 5>So when you're when you're notified, you learn stuff.

0:53:01.200 --> 0:53:02.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, you're all prepared.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great. Well, do you have anything that Oh

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we forgot to ask him about Paul Haman.

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh. Well we'll just have to take care

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 4>of that ourselves.

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so Paul Haman real quickly getting inducted to

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty four for WWE.

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I put something up thanking him one the Twitter machine

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>or X as it's called now. He didn't reply, but

0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:34.640
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, no worries about that. But just you know,

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>without him, I wouldn't be sitting here. So well deserved.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, he goes back longer than ECW.

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>He's been around w CW days, started as a photographer

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>as a kid. I mean, he's been around for quite

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>some time. Fantastic as a manager, mouthpiece, performer, but even

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>better as a booker and boss and creator of Extreme

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Championship Wrestling. So I think it's well deserved, and I think,

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, usually I guess they would wait until maybe

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:18.040
<v Speaker 1>he's done performing, but because it was Philadelphia, I feel

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 1>like it was the right I guess it's the right

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 1>time to do it. Now, the question that everybody is

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.880
<v Speaker 1>asking is who's going to induct him?

0:54:28.200 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 4>Well, one guy was taken out.

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Of Well, my first my first thought, when you know

0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:36.439
<v Speaker 1>months ago, would have been Brock Lesnar, but he's kind

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of like, uh am, I A, now he's kind of missing.

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, who do you think that's the nod here?

0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a damn good question. I mean, I've seen some

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 3>names thrown around. I have to say, you'd probably have

0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 3>to go with Roman at this point. I think you

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:57.239
<v Speaker 3>elevated Roman to such a higher point as a heel,

0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.320
<v Speaker 3>and they've been so closely associated.

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 4>To the current fan base for the last three years.

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 4>I would say would make sense because.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.239
<v Speaker 3>Of that butt you're in Philly, So does it make

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 3>more sense to go with a more ECW centric name.

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I saw somebody suggest RVD. I saw somebody suggest Tommy.

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Dreamer, so.

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I saw Harry Slash earlier before we started. So, I

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 3>mean there's a ton of speculation between now and then.

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Will be massive.

0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure, yeah, But you know, the guy who everybody

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 3>would have pegged would have absolutely been Brock. But also

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:39.799
<v Speaker 3>don't discount see him Punk because them Punk would be

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.239
<v Speaker 3>the name. I think that would make every side happy.

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I think the ECW fan would be happy with that,

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:47.040
<v Speaker 3>and I think the WWE fan would be happy with that.

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see who they go.

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>With rumors circulating, again, only rumors, and I think it's

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>fan made rumors that ECW collectively as a group is

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be put into the Hall of Fame and

0:56:03.200 --> 0:56:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna pluck four or five of us to go

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 1>up there. I don't see that happening, but I could

0:56:08.800 --> 0:56:12.399
<v Speaker 1>be one hundred percent wrong. Who knows. I don't know.

0:56:12.520 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>It is Philly. They're looking for that cheap pop. Yeah,

0:56:16.200 --> 0:56:19.280
<v Speaker 1>so you never know what they have up their sleeve.

0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>But again, very happy for Paul, well deserved. He's a

0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:28.720
<v Speaker 1>mastermind at the sport of professional wrestling. He knows exactly

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. He always has and he always will.

0:56:31.680 --> 0:56:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So congrats Paul. Happy for him.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 3>How about the fact that, you know, I just noticed

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:41.200
<v Speaker 3>that we talked about obviously the WWE two K two

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 3>four game, right, the Sandman is actually a downloadable character.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Right, So Sandman is low key kind of in the

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:52.840
<v Speaker 5>good graces.

0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:55.880
<v Speaker 3>If he knows that, I wonder he's on the commercial

0:56:56.040 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 3>like he's in the game.

0:56:57.840 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 4>He's one of the characters you can download.

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if they picked Sammy Yeah to be the one yeah, Philly.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Imagine the bleep they'd have to have ready, they'd have

0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the finger on the button to be one long bleepntes.

0:57:14.719 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>He would have to get somebody to write a speech.

0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:22.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, because I always say this about Hacks. He's

0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a smart guy, but he's not very articulate. And his

0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>text message is prove it. It's like a fourth grader's

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>texting me. He doesn't spell the words. He shortcuts everything

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and doesn't use capitalization, punctuation.

0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't doesn't needed to make a point.

0:57:39.520 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when is his Dark Side one? Do we know

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a date?

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:57:43.000 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 3>The only one I saw the first one airing was

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:46.439
<v Speaker 3>John Tenta.

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And when is that? Did it start already?

0:57:47.920 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 3>That is technically in real time? Tuesday, March fifth, that

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.400
<v Speaker 3>was the first episode. Yeah, so I don't know when

0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 3>today his episode is correct?

0:57:59.360 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I sent my DVR so I don't miss his

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 1>episode because I really there's a couple I want to watch.

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to watch him. I want to watch Sherry Cherry.

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.720
<v Speaker 3>I forgot they were even doing Sherry. That is when

0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 3>we absolutely have to talk.

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Definitely want to because I love her and I want

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to watch hers. And there there's a couple in there

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm interested in, but Hacks number one for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll try to find out some more info this week.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, right now, I found the list.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what they've released so far. John tent To

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<v Speaker 3>week one, Buff bag Well week two, Terry Gordie week three,

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<v Speaker 3>and Brutus Beefcake week four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have a month before Hackey comes on.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good again, I'll talk to him this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll see what's going on. But uh, sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give me something to watch. I like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Where can people follow you?

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<v Speaker 4>At Chat?

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<v Speaker 3>E and B, on Twitter, at IB exclusives on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>and every single week on eyes up here?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to follow me on social media across

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to know my touring schedule, just go

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<v Speaker 1>to my socials. Everything is on there. I hope you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying safe. I hope you're staying healthy, and most of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are staying extreme