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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone in and you are listening to Eyes up

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Speaker 1: here with dreamin the iHeartRadio Network or wherever you get podcasts.

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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by my co host Chad.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chadster. How are we today?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm awesome. I have a new name for you

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Speaker 3: as well this week for me. Yes, for myself, I have.

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Speaker 4: A new name.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've renamed myself. Instead of the gesture of jubilation,

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Speaker 3: I'm the gesture of jeering because I'm never jubilant.

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Speaker 4: I'm usually jeering.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Yes, I'm glad you finally

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Speaker 1: have come to the revelation.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's good. Oh you're happy. That's good just to.

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Speaker 4: Be here, but not in general.

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Speaker 1: I got you. You're usually your miserable self. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're happy today. We have a great guest

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Speaker 1: that's coming on in a couple of minutes. But let's

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Speaker 1: do just a quick recap. Anything going on in your

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Speaker 1: world that I need to know about.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's another in my world specifically, But you know,

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Speaker 3: the wrestling world is pretty crazy right about now, and

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Speaker 3: I'm loving every second of it. Say yeah, I haven't

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Speaker 3: been this into, uh to what's going on in in

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Speaker 3: WWE in quite a while. Their television product has been pretty,

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Speaker 3: uh pretty goddamn entertaining, So I have to tell you

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Speaker 3: it's been quite fun to be a fan watching the product.

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Speaker 5: I have to Well, the main event story, I'll just say, is.

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Speaker 1: This because you're a mega rock fan.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe just because of the old school flavor

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Speaker 5: of the rock.

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Speaker 4: I think that's it.

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Speaker 3: But the rest of the players are doing their part too.

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Speaker 3: It's not just him, it's everybody else. It's it's Cody,

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Speaker 3: it's Roman, it's seth Rollins, it's Stepford, everybody, Paul Hayman,

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Speaker 3: it's everyone involved is doing their part. It's but it's

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Speaker 3: cool as a fan. So that's what Personally in my life,

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Speaker 3: my life's.

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Speaker 4: Always in chaos.

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Speaker 5: But from a wrestling point of view, I got to

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Speaker 5: say loving it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, that sounds good. I have not been watching

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Speaker 1: as usual, per yus with me trying to keep up

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Speaker 1: with it a little on social media, but I haven't

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Speaker 1: really seen anything. And then again, like you know, Wrestle

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Speaker 1: Media Week and I'm gonna be extremely busy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I'll have a chance to watch, but maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll watch it when I come home, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I hear it's it's good, which it probably will be.

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Speaker 1: Let's you know, let's just say that right now. But

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Speaker 1: like two nights, it's just it's just so much. God man,

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Speaker 1: that's so. But it's cool if like you're a wrestling

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Speaker 1: fan and you have a bunch of friends who dig

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Speaker 1: it and you get some you know, some drinks or

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Speaker 1: some snacks and you're all like going over somebody's house

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Speaker 1: and hanging out like that makes it more fun. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, those days are over for me. I don't

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Speaker 1: do that. I'm here when you're younger and you're so

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Speaker 1: into the product and you have those wrestling buddies that

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Speaker 1: you can hang out with, that's a good time. So

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's gonna be a bunch of WrestleMania watch

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Speaker 1: parties out there and that's fun. So hopefully it's a

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Speaker 1: good show and everybody enjoys it. But yeah, yeah, right

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Speaker 1: for me. Myself got away with the kids this past week.

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Speaker 1: My husband actually went to the Arnold Classic and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, if you know my husband, he is

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Speaker 1: a huge fan of Arnold Twarzenegger if you go in

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Speaker 1: our gym, like, Arnold is everywhere. He's staring at me

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Speaker 1: everywhere I turned. And then he brought him more swag

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Speaker 1: that he got and it's more Arnold, and I'm.

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Speaker 5: Just like, good lord Arnold, I want to see it.

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Speaker 1: He's everywhere. He didn't get to meet him, but he

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Speaker 1: you know, Arnold was on the panel a couple of times,

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Speaker 1: so he got to see him. But he met a

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Speaker 1: lot of the pro bodybuilders.

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Speaker 4: Michael hearn he met awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know the other guy's names. He

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Speaker 1: but very cool and he had a really good time.

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Speaker 1: So I took the kids down to ac and did

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Speaker 1: just kept walking. It's hilarious because this one lady like

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Speaker 1: I was like, listen, kids, do not gamble. You save

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Speaker 1: your money, you buy houses and cars, and you do

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Speaker 1: not come here. You do not gamble. This is just

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Speaker 1: the place where we're We swim, we eat, we have

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Speaker 1: know it was It was a nice little getaway for

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Speaker 2: A nice Time's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We do back. Yeah, no gambling when I'm with the kids,

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Speaker 1: No gambling, none, just found though I look around the

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Speaker 1: need to I need to know what's going on, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I'm always like because you know,

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Speaker 1: not under twenty one, you're not allowed on the carpet.

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Speaker 1: So my eyes are always open and I'm always looking around.

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Speaker 1: But no gambling, just a lot of fun. It was

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Speaker 1: a good time. I can't wait till the boardwalk. It's

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Speaker 1: it's warmer and the boardwalk still what is it still?

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Speaker 1: Peer Yeah? Still pier that opens up and we go

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Speaker 1: there and we go on the rides and go to

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Speaker 1: the beach and it's a good time. So really looking

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Speaker 2: Very cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fun, fun stuff. And by the time you hear this,

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Speaker 1: my weekend I'll be over. But I'm in Chicka Laca Laco, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: It was a great show. Me and Sandman had a

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Speaker 4: I just can't wait to hear the travel stories.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hopefully it'll be some some you know, shenanigans

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Speaker 1: going on, because there always is. It's never a smooth sale,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's always something. Hopefully it's

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Speaker 1: it's not too bad, but when I'm with the Sandman,

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Speaker 1: anything can happen. So uh yeah, and Todd Gordon was

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Speaker 1: supposed to come with us, and then his Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that is a story in itself. It would take me

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Speaker 1: an hour to explain. But everything that's screwed up and

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Speaker 1: and Shane and I. You know, there's a bunch of

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Speaker 1: like we said this before, a bunch of ECW people,

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Speaker 1: and again this is after the fact. I'm assuming I

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Speaker 1: had a great time and we'll talk about it next

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Speaker 1: week more. But I was trying to get ready for

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 1: You know, this menopause is killing me. I gained weight again.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm dying.

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Speaker 1: I'm fasting. I'm doing the inter minute fasting and I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to watch what I eat and it's just like

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Speaker 1: it's killing me. I just don't know what else to do.

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Speaker 5: I think I have sympathy pains for you.

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Speaker 1: You should because it's very hard being a woman.

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Speaker 4: It's very hard being a man.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully I want to go get out of here. It's

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Speaker 1: so much harder.

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Speaker 4: Being a you know how, you know how I am.

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Speaker 5: I can drop weight like that, and right now I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm dropping no weight like this. I'm not doing are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you eating more? Because I'm not like I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm doing my I'm not as strict as I've been

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Speaker 3: in past with diets. More about water drinking from me

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Speaker 3: and in the current situation, I mean, I can't have

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Speaker 3: access to water because I can't leave my designated areas

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Speaker 3: fast to use the restroom. Oh right, but but that's

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Speaker 3: a key factor for me, is water drinking and water

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Speaker 4: But I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good, I thought with my diet. But no, I'm

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Speaker 3: not just not seeing results. So I got sympathy pains

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Speaker 3: for you, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's rough.

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Speaker 1: I was like, can I just go to the plastic

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Speaker 1: I was trying to my protein, and now what I'm

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Speaker 1: it because I don't get my You know, you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to get your protein and equaling to your weight, and

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Speaker 1: I don't come, you're my protein when I only won

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Speaker 1: trying to cut my calories, which they say you don't

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm struggling with. But you know, Hubbs doesn't

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Speaker 1: want me to get any plastic surgery. He's like no.

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Speaker 1: I was like, can I get my boobs done? He's

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Speaker 1: like no, can we get life? Oh no? Can we

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Speaker 1: get a lips? Done, no nothing. I'm one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: natural right now. I have nothing done to myself and

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Speaker 1: it shows. It shows that I'm natural. So I want

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Speaker 1: to get some stuff done. But Hubs said now, and

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So this is a very good friend of

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Speaker 1: mine who's tardy to the party. But I won't forgive

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Speaker 1: him today. Divon Dudley, hall of Famer, Hall of famer

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Speaker 1: in my heart, with the hall of Fame. I like that.

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Speaker 2: Huh you k No, I was trying to find my pods.

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Speaker 1: Well, your mouth isn't look his mouth isn't in sync

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Speaker 1: with what he's saying.

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Speaker 4: He's here, and that's what's important.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: I won't look at your mouth. I'm gonna look. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stare into your eyes. My dear, how are you,

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Speaker 1: my friend?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good, doing good, not bad, not bad. Get

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Speaker 2: in sleep no.

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Speaker 1: No, So let me just let me just say. When

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Speaker 1: I was in Florida, I got to have dinner with

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Speaker 1: Devon and his lovely wife and his lovely, lovely children.

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Speaker 1: And they're a handful.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, you have.

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous family, beautiful, beautiful children. But the two little Are

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Speaker 1: they four and five? The girls?

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Speaker 2: The girl? Yes, they're four and five.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so four and five years old. I'm thinking they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like dainty, very sweet, which they were very sweet,

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Speaker 1: but because of their dad, they wrestled the whole time.

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Speaker 1: We were trying to like sit and like have like

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Speaker 1: an adult cushion. They were body slamming each other, throwing

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I talked about your daughters. Now some people

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Speaker 6: Listen that I'm not. I was nowhere near as over

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Speaker 3: That was a great storyline, it was. It was intense

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about you.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling people might not know you had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had back surgery.

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Speaker 6: I got to get back on the floor and stretch. Well,

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Speaker 6: I mean, it just comes with the territory. Other than that,

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Speaker 1: You didn't stretch before you came to see me? Because

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Speaker 1: But then I was limping right behind him, so it's okay. Dinner.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about all our ailments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I would have saw DDP first, be

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Speaker 6: It's you know, I've seen testimonies from other people that

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: There was just a new testimony by Butterbean where he

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Speaker 2: And now he's running marathons and everything.

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Speaker 6: And I was like, man, if I would have went

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Speaker 2: May not, you know, maybe you wouldn't have got the surgery.

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Speaker 2: Because I did.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know they, I mean, look at the job

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Speaker 1: Your body is going through trauma every single day. It's

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Speaker 2: Well, God never intended your body to do things like that. No, man,

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Speaker 1: It's just you know, everybody, well, if you trained, you

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Speaker 1: and you don't have to be a wrestler. You can

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes I look, I go, God, look at

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Speaker 6: Jeff Hardy. You know, look at Jeff Hardy, look at

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Speaker 6: rv D. Some of the things that they've done, they

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Speaker 1: They're still going?

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Speaker 2: Which is still going?

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Speaker 1: I heard a little birdie, not so little big birdie

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Speaker 1: by the name of Bubba Ray Dudley, and he was saying,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we talked about it. You know,

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't have to do anything.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna hit the greatest hits It's kind like Kiss,

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Speaker 6: all of those good hits. People loved them. The minute

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Speaker 6: They weren't the classics. They weren't what Kiss was known for.

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Speaker 6: You know, we don't have to go out there and

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Speaker 2: Let's just go out there and have fun and hit

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Speaker 2: the greatest hits.

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Speaker 1: Nostalgia. Nostalgia, that's what people want.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you could give it to him. Can we

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Speaker 1: see the what's up? What's up?

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Speaker 6: Well, maybe we'll do the what's up when Bubba's up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just holding legs open, just holding them. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's a good position to be in fun. Man, hold

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Speaker 1: the woman's legs open or guy, if you're into that,

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Speaker 1: that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Three D maybe, oh yeah, definitely three D, which I

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Speaker 1: from you. Guys, no problem, it never happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, never happened. You got away, you were protected.

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Speaker 1: They got away.

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Speaker 6: You were protected by three of the toughest men, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I also feel like if you came into

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Speaker 2: That from you.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean again, that would have been the Dudley's.

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Speaker 6: We did actually work together. My first match I think

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Speaker 1: Was with them.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you were with them and you beat the hell out.

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Speaker 1: Of uh oh Chubby and dancing dancing.

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Speaker 2: You had these seven inch I'm gonna say there was

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Speaker 6: And were standing on freaking uh dancing with Dudley's freaking

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Speaker 6: I remember looking at that, I go, this is not wrestling.

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Speaker 2: I go, what the hell am I doing here?

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Speaker 1: Wwf, Hey, that's what I was told to do, you know?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I know, and I remember you you basically

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Speaker 6: I see I turn around and see that, and then

440
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 6: I start going after you, like walking towards you. It

441
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 6: was like Jason going after the girl that he.

442
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: Wants to kill somebody that slow you know, ye to

443
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: the girl.

444
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 6: And we were doing that around the ring until I

445
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 6: believe Anthony jumped down and hit me in the back

446
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 6: of the head of the ring.

447
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: And then that was the night that you got a

448
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 2: power bomb?

449
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Was it?

450
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

451
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: You? So later we did the four corners match, I

452
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: suppose yep. So it's funny because we didn't work together

453
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: too much, but there's one match and when I had

454
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: Bubba on and I wish I could we could pull

455
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: it up to show you it because it's hilarious. I

456
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: don't know if I didn't have anybody to work with

457
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: that evening. But Paul made me come out when the

458
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: Dudleys were in the ring. It was I think, I

459
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: guess it was a house show. It was never for TV.

460
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: And I they make me come out in this big jacket, right,

461
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: and I you know I've addressed someone underneath it or whatever.

462
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: And I try to entice you and I take the

463
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: jacket off and you do the wa wouza with the eyes.

464
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: It was.

465
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: It was such goga. It was ridiculous. I end up

466
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: beating up all of you, and then Spike comes out

467
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: and does like some kind of death like the death

468
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: drop or something. Help the acid drop. That's right. But

469
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: I gave like I gave Bubba ddp's diamond cutter, I

470
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: did something to you. I gave Lou a regular d

471
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,719
Speaker 1: d T. I mean, it was ridiculous. I beat up

472
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: your whole clan.

473
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh thank you by taking out by Francine. And then

474
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: forty days later, I'm on the podcast, Well we were all.

475
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: When I look back and I say to myself, my god,

476
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: here I am one hundred and seventeen pounds soaking wet.

477
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: I got all these big men around me, and I'm

478
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: beating the shit out of everybody. It is so not believable,

479
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: but it was just like a little haha, gaga spot

480
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: to fill. Yeah.

481
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 6: The great thing about stuff like that is when you

482
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 6: look back at it, Yes, realistically, a woman in your

483
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 6: side should not have been able to take out three

484
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: guys outside. But back then ECW did things like that,

485
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 6: and even though it didn't make sense, when you look

486
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 6: at it, it was very entertaining.

487
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: It was how we did it right and how we

488
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: pulled it off.

489
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 6: I got the reaction as opposed to some people that

490
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 6: do things that don't make sense and then there's no reaction.

491
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 6: We put a lot of entertainment and stuff like that

492
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 6: to even though people knew that it could never happen,

493
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 6: maybe it's a possibility it can because ECW is telling

494
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 6: that story and that was just what we did. When

495
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 6: you look at some of the matches that we did,

496
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 6: oh my god, I cringe.

497
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: Thing. What's the worst match that you had to do?

498
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: That you look back and you say to myself, good lord,

499
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. E c W.

500
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

501
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not gonna say I mean we had

502
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 6: great matches, but and I'll get to that question. What

503
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 6: I was saying was it was like we're sitting up there,

504
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 6: and when you look at some of the things that

505
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 6: we're doing, stuff in front of the referee, you know,

506
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 6: the referees watching and it's not being a dq or

507
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 6: outside for like five twenty minutes on the outside of

508
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 6: the ring.

509
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what the hell were we thinking?

510
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 6: But because we made it so entertaining and because we

511
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 6: captivated an audience the way we did, people suspended that

512
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 6: and just didn't even think about the rules or what

513
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 6: didn't make sense.

514
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: We made them believe it at that point.

515
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: Because the other people were following the rules. The other

516
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: companies were cookie cutter following the rules, and we took

517
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: it outside the box and did things differently.

518
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: That's why we were That's why we were the Nevada

519
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: Nevadavana Nevana.

520
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 6: We were the Nevana of pro wrestling. There's no different

521
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 6: than Nirvana Nevana. When you know you have Martley Crue, Metallica,

522
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 6: you know, all these hair bands that are just killing

523
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 6: it in the eighties, and it didn't seem like anybody

524
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 6: was going to take them down. Then Navana came in

525
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 6: and just kicked down the door and said, nope, we're

526
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 6: breaking the rules. We're gonna be sad, pissed off. We're

527
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 6: gonna tell you how we feel. I mean, because you

528
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 6: know when you when you look at that type of music,

529
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 6: you're like, oh my god, I just I want to

530
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 6: murder myself.

531
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: I'm so sad, you.

532
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 6: Know, and it's like, oh my god, it's that Seattle

533
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 6: feel that they you know, that you always hear about.

534
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 6: But you know, it was one of those things where

535
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 6: when Havana did that, it just opened up.

536
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 2: A whole new door for music.

537
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 6: And it was what we did and we see W

538
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 6: we kicked the door down and did the opposite of

539
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 6: what should have been done right.

540
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: But when we did it, we did it good and

541
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: did it.

542
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Very entertaining and fun.

543
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: Yep, So I forgot what the other question was.

544
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: When you look back at your career, it doesn't even

545
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: have to be in ECW, just matches that you've been

546
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: a part of you. You were saying, like you look

547
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: back sometimes and you say, oh my god, so cringe.

548
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: I cringe when I think of that the worst, the

549
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: worst thing, or the worst angle that you've been a

550
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: part of. That you look back in your because there's

551
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: things that I've done or clothes that I've worn that

552
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. I'm like, what was I thinking? Like where

553
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: did this come from? Like this was such a bad choice.

554
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: Anything that you've ever done that you look back and

555
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh my god.

556
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, t and a TNA match pay per view,

557
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 6: the fish market, street fight.

558
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: The fish market.

559
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they had fish line, they had fish on ice.

560
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: Oh h and nothing to that. This has nothing to

561
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 6: do with Curryman, who was Christopher Daniels and shock Boy.

562
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 6: Loved those guys, love working with them. But I hated this.

563
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: I don't like fish. I don't eat fish. I hate

564
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 6: the smell of fish. And it's real fish on ice,

565
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: like like you had a fish market, and of course

566
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: you know people picking fish up and throwing it and

567
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 6: hitting people with it. I remember looking at curry Man.

568
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 6: I said, listen, do not hit me. Would a guy

569
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 6: with a fish?

570
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: I said, you do? It becomes real. Do not hit me.

571
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: Do not hit me at all with a fish gimmick?

572
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Like, what's the point it was?

573
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: Vince russo Enough said, I.

574
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Have never like does that make sense.

575
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: To go to Well, it wasn't it?

576
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 6: You had it was a regular match, But yeah, they

577
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: go outside and take the fish and hit each other

578
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 6: as a weapon. Now that was where the rules were, like,

579
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 6: Oh it was It's like a street fight. There are

580
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: no rules in a street fight. You can have a

581
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 6: regular match, but you can use weapons.

582
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: You know.

583
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: God, I would throw up.

584
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: I threw out my wrestling gear. Oh it was that bad.

585
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: What if somebody just picked up a fish and just

586
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: smacked you across the face?

587
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: Well, Curry and Curry Man Daniels a great but shock

588
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Boy forgot that. I said that to him. He got

589
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: caught up in a moment and he took the fish.

590
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: He hit me. As soon as he hit me, I went, potato, God,

591
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: goddamn fish.

592
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna have to look that match

593
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: up because I have never I've never even heard of

594
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: that one.

595
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: It was good. I hated that match to this day.

596
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: I said it was the worst match because again I

597
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: never liked it. And I remember telling I remember saying

598
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: something to Russo. I said, we have to do this match. Oh, bro,

599
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. Bro, it's

600
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna be good. I'm telling me, people gonna love it. Bro,

601
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. And I'm like, you feel a ship.

602
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: He goes no, bubbas. He goes bubbas, He goes Bubba's uh,

603
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: Bubba's cool with it. I looked at Bubba, he goes.

604
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Bubba's face.

605
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like russo you're lying. I was like, this

606
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: is a god awful, man.

607
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: This How how many like big fish were there? Like?

608
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Did they have boxes of fish around the ring?

609
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: Is that?

610
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: No?

611
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: You ever go you ever go to Chinatown or market?

612
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 6: It was a fish market, you know, like the little trade.

613
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 6: The big trays that they had they filled up with

614
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 6: ice and then they put the fish on top.

615
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was just like one one.

616
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 6: They had like a whole line of it. They had, yeah,

617
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 6: and they had fish and all that on there.

618
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: It was. It was bad. The smell was horrible.

619
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: The fans like, I mean, did stars ship Nelson?

620
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: He's never given me five stars and any of the

621
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: man it gives.

622
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Me negative stars.

623
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Not even in the freaking TLC match. I think we

624
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: got like two.

625
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's terrible.

626
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: But while people still talk about those matches today thirty

627
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: something years were awesome. Still please but so, I mean,

628
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what his problem was.

629
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 6: But you know, hey, it is what it is his

630
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 6: own what well, you know, you. Two guys may see

631
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 6: a wrestling match and love it, and I may hate it,

632
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 6: but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna, you know, out

633
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 6: of one to ten stars, I'm gonna go, okay, get

634
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 6: to two. It may get it two for me, but

635
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: not not not everybody else should you know, take it

636
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: as you know, you know everybody else.

637
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: Is gonna look at it. The two match.

638
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like I feel like back then

639
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: e c W never got like not that it means

640
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: anything but the rating system from him, but I feel

641
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: like none of our guys got a lot of stars

642
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: for the match.

643
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,959
Speaker 2: Well, I know a lot of our guys didn't like him.

644
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: It was pissed off at him.

645
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 6: But I also know that you're right, none of us

646
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 6: got any of those stuff. But remember a lot of

647
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 6: people thought e CW was barbaric, right, They didn't like ECW,

648
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 6: even some of the veterans in WCW or WWE.

649
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that wwf Y.

650
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 6: You know, basically did not know or understand what we

651
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 6: were doing, and they would saying and a lot of

652
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 6: them would say.

653
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: What we were doing was garbage and this and that.

654
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 6: Until the fans started catching on and watching and then

655
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 6: showing their love and support, and you couldn't go to

656
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 6: an arena that wasn't an ECW show, but it was

657
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 6: like a w CW or WWE show where the fans

658
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 6: would hijack the show and start channing Ecwright. You know,

659
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 6: it was then that people's eyes started to wake up. So,

660
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 6: you know, Nelson might not have believed in what we

661
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 6: were doing, but that's fine. But again, what is it thirty.

662
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Thirty thirty forty?

663
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: I feel like it makes me feel too.

664
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not quite close to it, but.

665
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: People still talk about it. You know. It's it's all

666
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: those things where it's unbelievable. Yeah, oh my, can we.

667
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Just can I just take this in right now? We're

668
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: so the fish We're for those listening, Uh, we're watching

669
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: the Fish Market Street Fight right now from two thousand

670
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: and eight TNA Destination x So. Buba's going for a

671
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: fish for Shark Boys. Shark Boy's going for a net

672
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: to let y'all know. Oh, Buba's moving to the fish. Okay. Oh,

673
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: shark Boy's got him in the net.

674
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Okay, No, that's a curry.

675
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh it's curryman. Oh I saw the Oh okay, I'm

676
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: sorry I thought that was a fin on his head. Okay,

677
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: so that's Christopher Daniels. Yes, oh yeah, now I see

678
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: his eyes okay, good and yeah he's he's uh ah,

679
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: he's dancing. Look at that. Yeah, curry man, I don't

680
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: remember this gimmick dropping to the dish. I would die

681
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: gross gross gross gross. That is disgusting.

682
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: Far as far away could be away.

683
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 6: From them, I don't think.

684
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: Could you imagine you're so excited for a pay per view,

685
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: You're a big TNA fan, you can't wait to see

686
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: the Dudley's right, You buy a ticket, you're in the

687
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: front row, you think you got good seats, and then

688
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: they put a box of fish next to you and

689
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,479
Speaker 1: you gotta smell it for like twenty minutes. You gotta spell,

690
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: which would linger probably for the next two hours because

691
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: it stinks.

692
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it sounds like it sounds like

693
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: some of my earlier dates.

694
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: But enough to travel Lodge, I want to get back.

695
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: You were saying that like the that's looked at us

696
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: as like the Flood and Guts company and too much

697
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: and blah blah bluh. I remember we did a house

698
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: show one night and we it was like a mixed tag.

699
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: He did, right, And we were doing all these like

700
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: cool spots and this and that, and I mean, we've

701
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: probably had like maybe five hundred to one thousand people

702
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: in the building. It was a house show. Terry Taylor

703
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: was there just visiting, and we come through the curtain

704
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: and he stops us and he looks at all of

705
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: us and he says, why'd you work so hard? I'll

706
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: never forget this. It blew my mind. And I said,

707
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: excuse me, and he goes, why'd you just work so

708
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: hard out there? It's a house show. I couldn't wrap

709
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: my head around that reasoning, and I I said, point blank,

710
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, I said, if we drew

711
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: five hundred tonight, maybe they'll tell a friend and maybe

712
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: next time we come, we'll have a thousand people. Because

713
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: we work hard. That's what we do here. And he goes, well,

714
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: he goes, when we do the we just do the

715
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: same match in every city and it's easy and we

716
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: save our energy for TV. See now you're laughing. I

717
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, and I wasn't a VET at this time.

718
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of green, so I didn't want to

719
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: argue with the guy. But I'm thinking that kind of

720
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: mentality is shit, Why would you do it that way?

721
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: We did something. I didn't learn about that in terms

722
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: of doing stuff like that until I got to WWE, right,

723
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: because vets from the eighties were still there late eighties

724
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: that is, and you know they had a lot of

725
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: them had the same mentality because it was the old

726
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: school way of thinking. So the new school way of.

727
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 6: Thinking, like you were describing how you felt about it,

728
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 6: it hadn't really registered yet.

729
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: It was just that, you know, let's get out, let's

730
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: get through this match and get to the next town

731
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: and help you know, get the TV with no injuries.

732
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: And that's just the way it was.

733
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, But as as a couple, you know, sometime went on,

734
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 6: you know, some of the vets, you know, we would

735
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 6: do somewhat similar the same match, but we would change

736
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 6: a little bit off right, you know, to make it

737
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: a little bit different because you never know who drove,

738
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 6: you know, three four hundred miles to the next town,

739
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: and you know, you don't want them predicting what we

740
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 6: had already done in the town the night before. So

741
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 6: you know, it was always we changed it up a

742
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 6: little bit, not too much, just a little.

743
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: Bit, but that's and that's fine because we we we

744
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: would do like the same thing. We changed some spots

745
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: here and there. But to say, why did you work

746
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: so hard? To me, that's the first thing that came

747
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: out of his mouth when we came in the back.

748
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: Why'd you work so hard out there? And I'm thinking

749
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: to myself, why wouldn't we work hard like they bought

750
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: it to get, just like you would buy a ticket

751
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: if it was a pay per viewer or a TV taming.

752
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 6: I don't know if Terry Taylor would actually agree with

753
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: that method now, being that he is one of the

754
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 6: producers and NXT and I say that because you know,

755
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 6: you got to teach these kids they have to work

756
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 6: work hard for what they.

757
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: Do, not just to get the TV.

758
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 6: So I'm sure Terry Taylor is being a producer on

759
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 6: the live events and this and that, I don't think

760
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 6: he has that same mentality.

761
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: Anymore, even though he's not wrestling.

762
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: But again, I understand what he meant by that because

763
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 6: that was the way they did things back then.

764
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Didn't make it necessarily make it right, yeah, but.

765
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, necessarily make it wrong, but didn't necessarily make

766
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 6: it right either. But that was just the way they

767
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 6: were able to save their bodies, you know, because remember

768
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 6: back then, being on the road for fifty days straight

769
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 6: or forty to fifty days.

770
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Straight was normal.

771
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 6: Yes, so they were home maybe three to four days,

772
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 6: maybe a week if they were lucky. So you know,

773
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 6: they were constantly traveling in out of cars, some airplanes

774
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 6: and things like that. So they were really trying to

775
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 6: conserve their body. Yeah, not really, but I definitely understand

776
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 6: both ways. But I understand Terry's logic and thinking of it,

777
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: and I definitely understand your way of lodge and thinking

778
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 6: of it.

779
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Because that's what we did fifty five years ago when

780
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: we were just starting sixty. We've been here for seven

781
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: years since. Mc man. Any comments, Oh Man, did you

782
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: hear about what's going on?

783
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: I heard.

784
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 6: I'm still shocked at a lot of stuff that I've

785
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 6: read and heard.

786
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: But you know, scene anything, scene, I.

787
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: Never saw it.

788
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 6: Now, even though it wasn't producer, I've never seen any

789
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: foul play or anything like that. I wasn't the ones

790
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 6: that if foul play was going on, I would have

791
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 6: been done in front of me, you know, I was.

792
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't part of the system.

793
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: And anyway way, shape or form if anything like that

794
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 6: was going on, never legate allegedly.

795
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: We don't know if it's true.

796
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, I have no idea.

797
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just do you think he's guilty?

798
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know. I don't know.

799
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Sat get it out of every guest. I try to

800
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: pull it. It's not there, it's not there.

801
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: It's fine. Look, sometimes we could sit here and say.

802
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 6: All day long that a person didn't do something swooping down.

803
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 6: Then all of a sudden, some huge evidence or something

804
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 6: happens where that person is found guilty without a shadow

805
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 6: of a doubt, and they we're like, wait a minute,

806
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 6: we would have never believed it in a million years,

807
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 6: you know, And you know what happened. And there's some

808
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 6: people that are, you know, presume guilty, and yet the

809
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: evidence show that they weren't guilty. So you know, you

810
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: gotta let it play out in court and see what

811
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 6: the judge thinks. And I'm sure he's gonna be judged

812
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 6: by you know, a good jury of his peers, and

813
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 6: and you know whatever, I think it's holding off in Connecticut.

814
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: You know, let them decide what they're going to do

815
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 6: with it and go from there. I mean, well know,

816
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 6: well know eventually whether it was true or not, and

817
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 6: even whether the.

818
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: Verdict is uh, guilty or not guilty.

819
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 6: You know, you know, if he was found innocent, you know,

820
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: there'd be a lot of people saying, I know he

821
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 6: was guilty, he was guilty and this and that it's

822
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: still bad and he was found guilty.

823
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: I knew it. I know, you just never know.

824
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Very pc answer, it's fine.

825
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 4: Mustache, Yeah, what do you think?

826
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: Do you like it?

827
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not used to it. I'm used to

828
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: clean shade vents. I've never seen him with a mustache

829
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: or beard or go tea or anything.

830
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: And when we first saw it, they kind of threw

831
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 6: a lot of us off and we I think uh

832
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 6: one of the other producers in the when I was

833
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 6: working with we we were in the outside of the

834
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 6: meeting and they would show me.

835
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell? I said, who is that?

836
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: And then like I was like, fucking mustag?

837
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: Wow, travel ot story. Do you have one?

838
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: I several?

839
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I know you have several. Do you have one that

840
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: you can share that's funny off the top of your head.

841
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: You don't have the name names. You can call them

842
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Larry melanchurly if you want not to put anybody in

843
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: an awkward spot. I gotta have one that you could tell.

844
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh man, because I got.

845
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 6: Besides me getting so drunk, you know, here it is.

846
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 6: You know, I was, you know, a small kid from

847
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: book They never really did anything.

848
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Never a small kid from Brooklyn.

849
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Small kid from Brooklyn.

850
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't put Devon Dudley and small in the same category.

851
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: But okay, I didn't start gaining wait until it really

852
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: after my fourth or fifty year in the wrestling and

853
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: then when I got to E c W, because that's

854
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: when I started taking, you know, taking training seriously.

855
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 6: I should have took it seriously back when I was starting,

856
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 6: but I didn't. I was just trying to learn how

857
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 6: to wrestle.

858
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: Right right. So tell me the story. You got so drunk.

859
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Where were we were?

860
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: We somewhere we were We had the travel arget and

861
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: we went that bar downstairs and I just remember not

862
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: ever going out drinking like that ever. And I had

863
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: to get carried out of the bar up to my room.

864
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: At least I thought it was my room. Somebody put

865
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: me somebody else in the room. So I pass out.

866
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: I wake up and this guy goes, hey, Divine, I go,

867
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 2: what the fuck. I go, Yeah, who the hell are you?

868
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Why are you in my room? He goes, Divine, you're

869
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: in my room. I was like, it's like, who the

870
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: hell are you? It was some fan.

871
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: I was.

872
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Like, you've been sitting here watching me sleep. He goes,

873
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: I didn't want to wake you.

874
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Wait, wait a minute, who brought you up there? Did

875
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: you ever find y'all?

876
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: No, I don't got passed out.

877
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: I wonder because it's funny because we were talking about

878
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: this at dinner in Florida and Devon was like, man,

879
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: he goes, when I came to ECW the first time,

880
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: he goes, I was scared. He goes, I didn't do

881
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: any of the stuff y'all were doing. I go, I

882
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: didn't do it either, And I still didn't do it

883
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: when I Yeah, we drank, but we weren't part of

884
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: the drug crowd like our party and was going to

885
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: the bar and having a couple of cocktails and stuff.

886
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: But we you know, we weren't there snorting cocaine or

887
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: doing lines off the stripper. I mean, I wasn't anyway.

888
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: I don't.

889
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: Know. I didn't know anything about bills nothing, right, I

890
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: knew nothing about that.

891
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was so cute. He's like, oh my god,

892
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: he goes. I looked around and I was just so scared,

893
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah. But after a while, it

894
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: just becomes like the norm. And you know, we were

895
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: all friends, but everybody had the clicks that they hung

896
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: out with.

897
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: It.

898
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: If you didn't do drugs, you didn't hang out with

899
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: the drug people. But we once we were in the

900
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: locker room, we all hung out together.

901
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: I mean it was so it was really cool, like transtance.

902
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: You know. A guy, some kid came over and looked

903
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: at Sam and and said, is he all right?

904
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 6: But I said, no, he's just drunk. He's probably sleeping.

905
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 6: The guy goes, he's on next. I said, I don't

906
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 6: worry about it. As soon as his music hit, somebody

907
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 6: that's happened, and he'll get right up.

908
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: You know.

909
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, And that's what's great about it. Do

910
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: you remember the night that Tammy started the fight with

911
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: the Mummers. You had to have been there, you had

912
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: to have been in it. She went outside in the

913
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: back in the parking lot, you know, out the back door.

914
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: Remember the Mummers were on top of where we were,

915
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: on top of the arena, and she said something to

916
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: one of the mummers, and I think one of the

917
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: mummers called her a slut or something, and she caused

918
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: a riot that night. And I swear you and Bubba

919
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: were there and everybody ran out the door and started

920
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: fighting the mummers.

921
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: No, I don't think I was there.

922
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: I swear you were there.

923
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 2: If he gave me a year, because remember we left,

924
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: we left in ninety nine.

925
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what the year was. I swear you

926
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: were in there. Knew Jack was was like shanking people,

927
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: probably like it was a mess. But there were three

928
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: people who didn't go outside, me Shane Douglas and Hack

929
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: Sandman and Sandman Status he was doing lines of coke. Well,

930
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: everybody was fighting, and Man Shane were looking out the

931
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: window watching the fight. But everybody because Tammy started this fight,

932
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: and I sware you were in it.

933
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you guys were in it. I don't think we

934
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: were there for that one.

935
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna have to ask if he remembers that,

936
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: because I vividly do. And the whole locker room poured

937
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: out and just everybody was fighting in the parking lot.

938
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't remember ever having getting into a fight

939
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 6: and at the ECW Arena.

940
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't.

941
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 6: I mean other places I remember getting into fights like

942
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 6: Staten Island or you know, a lost Battalion hall in Queens,

943
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 6: but I don't remember getting a fight at the DCW

944
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 6: arena with fans.

945
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: The fight the fights that you got in, was it

946
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: because of the promos that you and and Bubba you know, dictated,

947
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: because some of those were really.

948
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, the one in Staten Island was really raunchy and

949
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: bad and if you could believe it, it even beat

950
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 6: the heat Waved ninety nine one, and you know the

951
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: one that we're most famous for. And somebody took a

952
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 6: swipe at Big Dick Dudley.

953
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: Why they do that?

954
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 6: He jumped the railing and went after the guy and

955
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: next thing you know, me and Bubba goes deevint, we

956
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: gotta go, we gotta go. I was like, oh shit,

957
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 6: And I remember jumped the railing.

958
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: I went out to go. People are jumping on us,

959
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: swinging on us. So Bubba goes devon, he goes assume

960
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: the position. I was like, here we go. We turned

961
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: to the ball, we talked about the balls. Boom.

962
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 6: It was like a brawdroom fight with freaking Patrick Swayze

963
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 6: and Roadhouse, all the people that it was freaking phenomenal,

964
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, the riot cops came

965
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 6: with the dogs and I was like, all right, stop

966
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 6: this ship, go back in the ring.

967
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: The riot cops came with the dogs, and the locker

968
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: room fled because how many people had on the crazy

969
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: Do you want to plug your socials or any appearances

970
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: that you have coming up?

971
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be in Ohio and god.

972
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Lockwood, Chicka Cop. I'm there to this weekend. But this

973
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: airs after this weekend. Are you there Saturday?

974
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there too.

975
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: I'll see you. Oh yeah, I'm gonna be there too.

976
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: Yeah about being Chilicoppy Ohio and doing all of that

977
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 6: good stuff. And I'll also be at the big event

978
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 6: in Long Island me too, coming up.

979
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: Yep, I'll be there for that one.

980
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Uh and then the big one Wrestle Con weekend.

981
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: Yes, it's weekend. I'll be there for that.

982
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: One and Icons and and Battleground at the area double duty.

983
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: I get to see Devon. I'm so excited. I'll see

984
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: you so many times.

985
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is awesome.

986
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Well, I appreciate you coming. Devon's two timer. Now,

987
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: we were aiming for the five time Club. I have

988
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: guess this is your No, you're not a two timer, Taylor.

989
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: He's not a two tim uh No, like I think

990
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Shane Douglas. Shane, I think is the first one to

991
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: be in the five time Club on Saturday Night Live.

992
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: Did you ever see it with Steve Morton? He's like,

993
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm a five timer. They do that. They have a

994
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: VIP layer. So you're a two timer. So you have

995
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: to come on three more times to be in my club.

996
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: I'll be good to go, where to go whenever you want.

997
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: I love you, buddy. Well, thank you for coming on again.

998
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see you a couple months ago.

999
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: We'll do it again when we can. But well, let's

1000
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: hang you out this weekend. Coming up, I'm sorry, we'll

1001
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: hang you out this weekend.

1002
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely sweet. I just gotta get me a

1003
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: nice steak and I'll be good to go.

1004
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we can do dinner. Are you on the

1005
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: night show too, because I'm not.

1006
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: I'm just sniging. We're not in chilli coffee.

1007
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: Oh you have a you have a you're driving somewhere else.

1008
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: No, no about chilli coffee.

1009
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, chilli coffee.

1010
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: Oh there's a night show.

1011
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: There's a night show.

1012
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Yeah.

1013
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: They put me on the poster and they were like, oh,

1014
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: she's doing the night show. I go, I am not

1015
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: no way. And I think they thought because I was there,

1016
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: I would just graciously just do it for free.

1017
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1018
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: No, I was like, no, I don't know. That's not happening.

1019
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: So after I sign them off, so maybe we can

1020
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: do dinner or something.

1021
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.

1022
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: Let's get all well, I'll see you there.

1023
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: You got.

1024
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: Was always open for you though. All right, everybody, Devon

1025
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: go follow him, go go buy Yes, there you go.

1026
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, I'll talk to you too.

1027
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: Bye.

1028
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: So fun.

1029
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: Divon testified they were some they were some good stories

1030
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: from Dalner.

1031
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, this was.

1032
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: This was really good. I was happy to see him again.

1033
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, we we reminisced at dinner. Those I mean,

1034
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: if those wolves can talk, we were. We were just

1035
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: telling stories and we were popping each other because things

1036
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: that I didn't remember, things that he didn't remember. And

1037
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: eighty seven years went by and it was like it

1038
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: was yesterday. So it was great.

1039
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's awesome about Devon and I'm sure fans that

1040
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: listened to this met him in person. The intensity that

1041
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 3: he has on air complete opposite when he when.

1042
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: He's so awesome to listen to.

1043
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 3: He's so chill, hang it out, and he's he's laughing,

1044
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, like so yeah, it's great.

1045
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: He's great.

1046
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: He's great.

1047
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad he came back on. That was a good one.

1048
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,719
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1049
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,040
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1050
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,480
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1051
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button. That way you will get the notification.

1052
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,399
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1053
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: oh one am. So, like I have iHeart on my

1054
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: phone and like clockwork, I get hey new eyes up

1055
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,040
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1056
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,000
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1057
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 4: I get a notification as well on my laptop.

1058
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes, because of the my notification set up,

1059
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: so I do get the same on my iPhone and

1060
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: I get the same on my computer.

1061
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 5: So when you're when you're notified, you learn stuff.

1062
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: You know, you're all prepared.

1063
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Well, do you have anything that Oh

1064
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: we forgot to ask him about Paul Haman.

1065
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Well we'll just have to take care

1066
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: of that ourselves.

1067
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, so Paul Haman real quickly getting inducted to

1068
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty four for WWE.

1069
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: I put something up thanking him one the Twitter machine

1070
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: or X as it's called now. He didn't reply, but

1071
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: that's okay, no worries about that. But just you know,

1072
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: without him, I wouldn't be sitting here. So well deserved.

1073
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he goes back longer than ECW.

1074
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: He's been around w CW days, started as a photographer

1075
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: as a kid. I mean, he's been around for quite

1076
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: some time. Fantastic as a manager, mouthpiece, performer, but even

1077
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: better as a booker and boss and creator of Extreme

1078
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Championship Wrestling. So I think it's well deserved, and I think,

1079
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: you know, usually I guess they would wait until maybe

1080
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: he's done performing, but because it was Philadelphia, I feel

1081
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: like it was the right I guess it's the right

1082
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: time to do it. Now, the question that everybody is

1083
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: asking is who's going to induct him?

1084
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 4: Well, one guy was taken out.

1085
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Of Well, my first my first thought, when you know

1086
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: months ago, would have been Brock Lesnar, but he's kind

1087
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: of like, uh am, I A, now he's kind of missing.

1088
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: So you know, who do you think that's the nod here?

1089
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: It's a damn good question. I mean, I've seen some

1090
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: names thrown around. I have to say, you'd probably have

1091
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: to go with Roman at this point. I think you

1092
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: elevated Roman to such a higher point as a heel,

1093
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Speaker 3: and they've been so closely associated.

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Speaker 4: To the current fan base for the last three years.

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Speaker 4: I would say would make sense because.

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Speaker 3: Of that butt you're in Philly, So does it make

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00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: more sense to go with a more ECW centric name.

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00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: I saw somebody suggest RVD. I saw somebody suggest Tommy.

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Speaker 4: Dreamer, so.

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Speaker 3: I saw Harry Slash earlier before we started. So, I

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Speaker 3: mean there's a ton of speculation between now and then.

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Speaker 4: Will be massive.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, But you know, the guy who everybody

1104
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 3: would have pegged would have absolutely been Brock. But also

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Speaker 3: don't discount see him Punk because them Punk would be

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Speaker 3: the name. I think that would make every side happy.

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Speaker 3: I think the ECW fan would be happy with that,

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Speaker 3: and I think the WWE fan would be happy with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see who they go.

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Speaker 1: With rumors circulating, again, only rumors, and I think it's

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00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: fan made rumors that ECW collectively as a group is

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Speaker 1: going to be put into the Hall of Fame and

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna pluck four or five of us to go

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Speaker 1: up there. I don't see that happening, but I could

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Speaker 1: be one hundred percent wrong. Who knows. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It is Philly. They're looking for that cheap pop. Yeah,

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00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: so you never know what they have up their sleeve.

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: But again, very happy for Paul, well deserved. He's a

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: mastermind at the sport of professional wrestling. He knows exactly

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. He always has and he always will.

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Speaker 1: So congrats Paul. Happy for him.

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Speaker 3: How about the fact that, you know, I just noticed

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Speaker 3: that we talked about obviously the WWE two K two

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Speaker 3: four game, right, the Sandman is actually a downloadable character.

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Speaker 5: Right, So Sandman is low key kind of in the

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Speaker 5: good graces.

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Speaker 3: If he knows that, I wonder he's on the commercial

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Speaker 3: like he's in the game.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the characters you can download.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if they picked Sammy Yeah to be the one yeah, Philly.

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Speaker 3: Imagine the bleep they'd have to have ready, they'd have

1132
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: the finger on the button to be one long bleepntes.

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Speaker 1: He would have to get somebody to write a speech.

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Speaker 1: You know, because I always say this about Hacks. He's

1135
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: a smart guy, but he's not very articulate. And his

1136
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: text message is prove it. It's like a fourth grader's

1137
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: texting me. He doesn't spell the words. He shortcuts everything

1138
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: and doesn't use capitalization, punctuation.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't doesn't needed to make a point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when is his Dark Side one? Do we know

1141
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: a date?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 3: The only one I saw the first one airing was

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Speaker 3: John Tenta.

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00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: And when is that? Did it start already?

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: That is technically in real time? Tuesday, March fifth, that

1147
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: was the first episode. Yeah, so I don't know when

1148
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 3: today his episode is correct?

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00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I sent my DVR so I don't miss his

1150
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: episode because I really there's a couple I want to watch.

1151
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: I want to watch him. I want to watch Sherry Cherry.

1152
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: I forgot they were even doing Sherry. That is when

1153
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: we absolutely have to talk.

1154
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: Definitely want to because I love her and I want

1155
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: to watch hers. And there there's a couple in there

1156
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: that I'm interested in, but Hacks number one for me.

1157
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Speaker 1: So I'll try to find out some more info this week.

1158
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 3: And like I said, right now, I found the list.

1159
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 3: This is what they've released so far. John tent To

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00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: week one, Buff bag Well week two, Terry Gordie week three,

1161
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: and Brutus Beefcake week four.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we have a month before Hackey comes on.

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Speaker 1: All right, good again, I'll talk to him this weekend

1164
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Speaker 1: so I'll see what's going on. But uh, sounds good.

1165
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: I'll give me something to watch. I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right? Where can people follow you?

1167
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: At Chat?

1168
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: E and B, on Twitter, at IB exclusives on Instagram

1169
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: and every single week on eyes up here?

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Speaker 2: All right?

1171
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Speaker 1: If you want to follow me on social media across

1172
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Speaker 1: the board, you can find me at ECW d VA Francine.

1173
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: If you want to know my touring schedule, just go

1174
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: to my socials. Everything is on there. I hope you're

1175
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: saying safe. I hope you're staying healthy, and most of all,

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Speaker 1: I hope you are staying extreme