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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts. Now.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is willing to go on offense in ways

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Speaker 2: that others have not been and to send that clear

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Speaker 2: signal to Trende Ragua, Cartel del Souls and others emanating

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Speaker 2: from Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: You want to try to traffic drugs.

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Speaker 3: It's a new day, It's a different day. Chicago did

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Speaker 3: experience a particularly brutal Labor Day weekend.

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Speaker 4: At least say fifty six people were shot, seven were killed.

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Speaker 5: Chicago's very interesting because I watched Pritzker get up and

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Speaker 5: say about we don't need help, We're safe. But over

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Speaker 5: the last two days it was that was the Crown

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Speaker 5: Jewel they had I guess nine killed, nine or ten

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Speaker 5: killed and fifty hit with.

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Speaker 2: This is a part of his plan to do something

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Speaker 2: really nefarious, which is to interfere with elections in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six.

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Speaker 1: He wants to have troops on the ground to.

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Speaker 6: Stop people from voting, to intimidate people from going to

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Speaker 6: the voting booth.

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Speaker 5: And you have this governor yet up, who's a terrible governor.

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Speaker 5: Probably he and Gavin Newscomb would be probably the two

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Speaker 5: worst and most naive. The naive either the Naiva. They're

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Speaker 5: very untruthful, and he'll say, we don't want any protection,

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Speaker 5: we don't need. So in the last three weeks he's

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Speaker 5: lost almost twenty people killed.

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Speaker 7: Shootings will continue as long as this presidential administration continues

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Speaker 7: to put politics over people.

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Speaker 8: According to online records, Livingston's history of random acts of

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Speaker 8: violence against women goes back eight years. In twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 8: he was accused of randomly attacking two women months apart,

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Speaker 8: both cases were dropped. In twenty twenty two, Livingston was

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Speaker 8: sentenced to five years in prison after prosecutors said he

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Speaker 8: punched and attempted to rob four women within twenty minutes

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Speaker 8: in the loop. And yet, just fourteen months later, in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, while on parole, Livingston was arrested for

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Speaker 8: hitting a woman in the face on North Michigan Avenue,

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Speaker 8: and in twenty twenty four, he was sentenced to one

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Speaker 8: hundred days in prison after punching a fifteen year old girl.

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Speaker 6: They are law abiding individuals who pay taxes and contribute

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Speaker 6: to the communities, who feel safe going to work and

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Speaker 6: attending mandatory immigration check ins. In other words, they're following

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Speaker 6: the law.

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Speaker 2: We have reason to believe that Stephen Miller chose the

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Speaker 2: month of September to come to Chicago because of celebrations

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Speaker 2: around Mexican Independence Day that happened here every year.

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Speaker 9: Garcia has said he doesn't want you to go back home.

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Speaker 3: Roll South of Law.

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Speaker 10: That's what he said. So we're honoring that, requesting him

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Speaker 10: with an ultimate place to live.

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Speaker 3: What are the travel booking agency.

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Speaker 10: It's not our job to say to the legal alien terrorists,

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Speaker 10: pick your favorite destination in the world and we'll send

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Speaker 10: you a charter jet there.

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Speaker 11: If you or someone you love aren't sure what resources

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Speaker 11: exist for immigrants in our state, I want you to

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Speaker 11: go to Illinois immigrationinfo dot Org. On the front page,

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Speaker 11: there's a red button that says learn your rights. Also

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Speaker 11: on that front page is a red button that says

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Speaker 11: get legal help. If you or someone you know needs

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Speaker 11: an immigration lawyer. This page has resources for finding representation.

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Speaker 5: Some whack job put in a lawsuit. It went before

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Speaker 5: a very liberal court, and the liberal court ruled. There's

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Speaker 5: eleven They ruled seven to four, with one of the

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Speaker 5: most liberal of them all voting in our favor.

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Speaker 1: Because they're patriots.

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Speaker 5: I think I give tremendous credit to that judge. And

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Speaker 5: now it's going to the Supreme Court. Now we're going

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Speaker 5: to be asking for early admittance where we're going tomorrow,

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Speaker 5: and we're going to ask for expedited and expedited ruling

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Speaker 5: because we need an early decision. I mean, look, it's

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Speaker 5: a very important decision and frankly, if they'd make the

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Speaker 5: wrong decision, it will be a devastation for our country.

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Speaker 5: As your next mayor of this city, I.

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Speaker 3: Will freeze the rent for more than two hundred.

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Speaker 7: And fifty thousand rent stabilized apartments.

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Speaker 5: Last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful. They

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Speaker 5: went very well, like this is going very well. And

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Speaker 5: then I didn't do any for two days, and they

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Speaker 5: said there must be something wrong with him. Biden wouldn't

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Speaker 5: do him for months, You wouldn't see him, and nobody

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Speaker 5: ever said there was ever anything wrong with him, and

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Speaker 5: we know he wasn't in the greatest of shape.

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Speaker 12: Every day there's a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 12: coming from every angle, but the will to the seaf

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Speaker 12: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 12: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 12: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 12: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Fuck a lot. Here we go on.

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Speaker 3: Okay everybody, Radio stations across the country. Honored to be

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Speaker 3: with you as always. You can email us freedom at

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Speaker 3: Charliekirk dot com. We are here in the Bitcoin dot

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Speaker 3: Com studio. We had an amazing event last night in Visalia, California.

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Speaker 3: It's right in the central Valley there and it is

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Speaker 3: where you get your pistachios, from your almonds, from some

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Speaker 3: of your tomatoes, some of your citrus. We had two

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Speaker 3: thousand and seven hundred people. It was a paid ticketing

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Speaker 3: event for Tularry Right to Life and they do. They

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Speaker 3: did a phenomenal job. They could have had another thousand people.

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Speaker 3: Isabelle Brown was there. It was just a very special

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Speaker 3: evening just being around the grassroots. The support is greater

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Speaker 3: than ever. And watch the Charlie Kirk Show. They listened

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Speaker 3: to the podcast. They see what we're doing. So thank

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Speaker 3: you guys, and God bless you. It's an amazing event.

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Speaker 3: We're going to play some pieces of tape there. You'll

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Speaker 3: see right there there's two thy seven hundred people there

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Speaker 3: last evening in Visalia, California. It just felt great being

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Speaker 3: back out as we prepare for yet another ambitious campus tour.

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Speaker 3: I am going to an undisclosed location, to a nation

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Speaker 3: that I will not tell you tonight. In fact, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to really set Twitter ablaze tonight. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: like I'm gonna say, I'm gonna tweet out I'm going

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Speaker 3: to a foreign nation fourteen hours away. What country will

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Speaker 3: do you think it is you're gonna see? Is this

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Speaker 3: gonna be a fun tweet? We're gonna do that. But

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Speaker 3: speaking of foreign nations, yesterday something really important happened. And

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Speaker 3: all the headlines are focused on the os and the

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Speaker 3: aesthetics and visuals, which is fine, but it's deeper than that.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was the eighty year anniversary of Victory Day, or

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Speaker 3: the essentially the founding of the Chinese Communist Party. The

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Speaker 3: visuals were obviously impressive. Look totalitarian countries, they do military

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Speaker 3: parades quite well. They're able to mobilize everything without any

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Speaker 3: From the nuclear arsenal to their investments in the military,

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Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party wanted to put on full display

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Speaker 3: was all designed for an audience of one. The military

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Speaker 3: parade was really designed for one person, and that person,

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Speaker 3: of course, as President Donald Trump. The Chinese were doing,

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Speaker 3: as you can see, propaganda of their bombers and of

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Speaker 3: their military. Now, their military is still a fraction of

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Speaker 3: to wonder, even though they spend a fraction that we do,

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Speaker 3: they probably don't have the bloat and the waist and

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Speaker 3: the government contractors that we do. You have to wonder

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Speaker 3: than we do. We waste a ton of money on

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Speaker 3: our military. I have a ton of money on Lockey,

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Speaker 3: Martin and north of Grumman. However, I think there is

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Speaker 3: definitely still an admission from independent analysts that we have

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Speaker 3: military weaponry and technology that they still do not have.

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Speaker 3: We pay soldiers a ton of money, they do not.

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Speaker 3: They're able to draft any when they want. They're a

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Speaker 3: the way, I'm putting these visuals up on screen here

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Speaker 3: because we have focused on a lot of different topics,

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Speaker 3: mass migration, the Islamism rising in the West. But I

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Speaker 3: think what yesterday should be a reminder is a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a early fall wake up call. We already

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Speaker 3: know that the Chinese Communist Party is a great threat

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Speaker 3: to us, but me even saying that is important. Let's

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Speaker 3: ask the very simple question, what is China? Is China

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Speaker 3: our friend? Are they a rival like Joe Biden called them?

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Speaker 3: Are they an adversary? I think they're an enemy of

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Speaker 3: the United States of America. I've said it once and

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again. They have internationalist ambitions. They want

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Speaker 3: to expand their territory. Now does that mean I believe

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Speaker 3: Of course not. But we need to start treating them,

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Speaker 3: at the very least like a serious rival. At the

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Speaker 3: very least. The Chinese Communist Party just threw an inside

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Speaker 3: only did they have that. They brought Vladimir Putin, they

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Speaker 3: other tyrannical autocrats from the region in a massive show

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Speaker 3: of force. Oh there's the Vice President of I actually

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Speaker 3: met that guy. Can we get we should get that picture?

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Speaker 3: I met I I it was one of the funniest story.

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Speaker 3: I think I told the Vice President of China story

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Speaker 3: This is a much tougher rivalry than the Cold War,

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Speaker 3: and we just got to be honest about it. The

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Speaker 3: refuse to ever embrace market principles. They were actual ideologues.

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Speaker 3: The Chinese economic model is a lot different. It's far

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Speaker 3: more pragmatic. They're basically what works, what makes us rich.

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Speaker 3: If we have to liberalize some areas, we will, But

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Speaker 3: if we have to be to Talitari in other ways.

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Speaker 3: We'll also do that the Chinese Communist Party's economy is

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Speaker 3: still not as big as ours, still not. The latest

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Speaker 3: GDP numbers show the Chinese Commist Parties maybe around eighteen

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Speaker 3: the way, where our national debt is way above the

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Speaker 3: Chinese Communist Party national debt. Remember, the USSR was a

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Speaker 3: multi ethnic mess, which is why it collapsed. China is

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Speaker 3: And China is very nationalist, and China is in a moment.

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Speaker 3: You have to look at where is the moment an empire?

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Speaker 3: And next year we celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary,

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Speaker 3: our two hundred and fiftieth birthday as a nation. Well,

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Speaker 3: since we're celebrating our tw hundred fiftieth birthday, that's about

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Speaker 3: as long as empires last. It's about the expiration date

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Speaker 3: the Chinese Commist Parties at year eighty. I want you

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Speaker 3: to think about where we were in year eighty, you're eighty.

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Speaker 3: We were fighting a civil war. We were still trying

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Speaker 3: to find our national identity. Once we got through the

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Speaker 3: a superpower with you know, industrial revolution in World War two,

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Speaker 3: World War two, but we did not have serious existential

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Speaker 5: worked in the houses. They had no water. They had

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Speaker 5: two houses. But he stopped the water from coming in,

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Speaker 5: and I had to send in the military to have

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Speaker 5: that water opened after the fires. And now that would

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Speaker 5: have but he should have more because he's they've restricted.

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Speaker 5: They still restricted. There's something wrong with these people. There's

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Speaker 5: something really wrong. As to investigation. I view it as

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Speaker 5: a gross incompetence. I view it as an ideology that's wrong.

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Speaker 5: It's a radical left ideology. And if I didn't win

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Speaker 5: this election, I think our country would be destroyed. I

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Speaker 5: don't believe you'd be here right now and our country

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Speaker 5: would be destroyed.

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Speaker 7: President Trump sit down with his Polish counterpart throughout the day.

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Speaker 7: In the meantime, let's get you back to the Charlie kirkshow.

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Speaker 1: Him left his say bo, he ignores him. It's the

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us is always freedom at

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Speaker 3: Charliekirk dot com. I want to tell you guys about

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Speaker 3: TikTok Economic Impact dot com. That is TikTok Economic impact

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Speaker 3: dot com. TikTok has helped US businesses contribute over twenty

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Speaker 3: four billion dollars to the US economy. That's real money

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Speaker 3: flowing into small businesses. TikTok is helping small businesses thrive,

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Speaker 3: and that is adding up. I used to be a

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Speaker 3: TikTok skeptic, and people, you know, they have feedback or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I got to do billions and billions of views that

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Speaker 3: we reached on TikTok. It's really amazing. Let's play this

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Speaker 3: one right here of this video. Oh, it's one of

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Speaker 3: my favorites. This one got like ten millions of views.

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Speaker 3: Let's play cut two sixty six.

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Speaker 14: Are you actually gonna let me talk for longer than

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Speaker 14: five seconds?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead?

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Speaker 14: You keep interrupting me every time I actually try to

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Speaker 14: every time I try to actually explain my point and

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Speaker 14: have a reasonable conversation with you, You caught me off.

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Speaker 14: I was trying to explain. You caught me off, started

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Speaker 14: talking about something completely different. You started bringing up random

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Speaker 14: stats and random facts.

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Speaker 3: So try to make me look super and she said

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Speaker 3: I was interrupting her. Well, she had thirty seconds and interrupted.

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Speaker 3: TikTok economic impact dot com. That's TikTok economic impact dot

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Speaker 3: com joining us now. Is a great friend, an amazing person,

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Speaker 3: Senator Mike Lee, from the wonderful state of Utah. Senator Lee,

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Speaker 3: great to see you, Senator. I am going to Utah

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Speaker 3: next week, a week from today, at the wonderful Utah

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Speaker 3: Valley State University. All are welcome. You guys can get

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Speaker 3: your tickets at American Comeback Tour dot com. Senator ly,

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Speaker 3: this is already making a lot of headlines. People are

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Speaker 3: very angry. They're calling for my cancelation. They think our

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Speaker 3: permit should be pulled. This is a greater response than

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Speaker 3: when I go to Berkeley. Senator Lee, What is going

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Speaker 3: on in the beautiful state of Utah.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Charlie, I want to thank you

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Speaker 4: the work that you're doing on campuses across the country

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Speaker 4: and for your interest in visiting Utah next week. You're

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Speaker 4: giving students everywhere the chance to hear perspectives that they

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Speaker 4: often wouldn't otherwise get. You've been on the front lines

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Speaker 4: defending free speech, especially where it's been most under pressure,

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Speaker 4: as it has been on college campuses all over the country,

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Speaker 4: and I'm so glad that you're bringing that fight to

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Speaker 4: Utah State University and Utah Valley University next week. Look,

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Speaker 4: free speech shouldn't stop at the campus gates. If anything,

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Speaker 4: we should have a heightened degree of attention and focus

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Speaker 4: a heightened degree of protectiveness around free speech on campuses

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Speaker 4: because the learning environment necessarily requires open, honest conversations where

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Speaker 4: different viewpoints are examined. Our students deserve open discussion and

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Speaker 4: vigorous debate, and not just the same sanitized, woke version

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Speaker 4: that some any college administrators and faculty members seem to

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Speaker 4: prefer and seem to demand exclusively. Look Utahan's belief in

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Speaker 4: open debate and free exchange of ideas. What you're doing

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Speaker 4: helps to ensure students get that experience, because if students

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Speaker 4: can't handle diverse ideas in college, how are they ever

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Speaker 4: going to handle that in real life?

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Speaker 3: So look, I.

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Speaker 4: Hope and expect that your visit to Utah will be productive,

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Speaker 4: that you will be able to speak, that you're not

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Speaker 4: going to exclude you, and I anticipate that once you're there,

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Speaker 4: a lot of the nasayers, a lot of those people

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Speaker 4: trying to exclude you, we're going to see some real

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Speaker 4: utility behind.

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Speaker 1: Your visit there.

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Speaker 4: Who knows why they decide to start these things, but

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Speaker 4: each time they start them, and then you show up

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Speaker 4: and do what you do best, people are enlightened as

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Speaker 4: a result of it.

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Speaker 15: So thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be fun, and I think some

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Speaker 3: of these people that are getting very angry, very disappointed,

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Speaker 3: because I am the same person on this program that

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Speaker 3: I'm there on campus. And if you disagree and go

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Speaker 3: to the front of the line, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: have a good chet. It's americancomeback tour dot com, Senator,

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Speaker 3: and when you show up true, but when when you

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Speaker 3: show up, please right and have opposable films.

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Speaker 15: I think some of them we're going to feel a

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Speaker 15: little bit silly after the big to.

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Speaker 3: Do they've made. Event know that that that's exactly that,

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Speaker 3: that's well said, and thank you, senator. Senator. I want

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Speaker 3: to shift gears here to President Trump's truth social he said,

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Speaker 3: Monday's court order in Utah is absolutely unconstitutional. How did

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Speaker 3: such a wonderful Republicans ate like Utah, which I wont

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Speaker 3: every election, end up with so many radical left judges? Senator,

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Speaker 3: what is going on here? Please take some time and

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Speaker 3: go into some detail and explain what's happening in the

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Speaker 3: great state of Utah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Utah's electoral system is under attacked by Democrats

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Speaker 4: and including their leftist allies in the Utah courts. About

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Speaker 4: seven years ago, there was an effort through which Utah

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Speaker 4: voters passed a law through a ballot initiative creating a

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Speaker 4: legislative Redistricting Commission.

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Speaker 9: Now, in the.

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Speaker 4: Years that followed, the Utah legislature subsequently amended that law,

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Speaker 4: which it has the power to do under the Utah Constitution.

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Speaker 4: In other words, you can make a law either through

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Speaker 4: the legislature or through a ballot initiative. The power somewhat

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Speaker 4: rarely used, but when it is used, it runs on

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Speaker 4: a parallel track with laws made by the legislature, and

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Speaker 4: so that the legislature can subsequently amend or even repeal

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Speaker 4: a law that was previously made under our state constitution

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Speaker 4: through a ballot initiative, But Utah courts are now invalidating

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Speaker 4: the legislature's amendments to that earlier ballot initiative and to

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Speaker 4: Utah's existing congressional district maps, even though nothing in the

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Speaker 4: Utah Constitution compels or allows that result, and even though

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Speaker 4: one provision, in particular, Article nine of the Utah Constitution,

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Speaker 4: actually requires legislative districts, including congressional districts, to be drawn

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Speaker 4: by the legislature, not by some nameless, faithless commission consisting

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Speaker 4: of people who, as well educated and well intentioned as

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Speaker 4: they might be, have never been elected by anybody and

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Speaker 4: don't serve accountable to the voters of Utah.

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Speaker 15: So it now appears that Utah is likely to be

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Speaker 15: bound by.

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Speaker 4: A process involving congressional district maps being drawn not by

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Speaker 4: the legislature but by this outside commission. You know, although

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Speaker 4: the legislature still has final authority to approve any such maps,

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Speaker 4: under the court order that came out last week, that maps,

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Speaker 4: one way or another have to be more or less

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Speaker 4: drawn by the commission, even though that constitution belongs to

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Speaker 4: the legislature. But this is great for Utah's Democrats, who

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Speaker 4: haven't controlled the Utah legislature in many, many decades, not

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Speaker 4: because Utah.

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Speaker 15: Voters are ignorant, but.

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Speaker 4: Because they don't like what the Democratic Party is selling

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Speaker 4: and have it for decades. That's why we have Republican

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Speaker 4: supermajority margins in the Utah House and in the Senate,

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Speaker 4: now with this, they found a clever way to even

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Speaker 4: the score by enlisting the help of their judicial allies. Look,

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Speaker 4: this is a terrible development for the rule of law

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Speaker 4: for voters in Utah who deserve to have these decisions

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Speaker 4: made in a manner consistent with the.

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Speaker 15: US Constitution and the Utah Constitution.

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Speaker 4: Now, it make no mistake this decision, while being heralded

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Speaker 4: by the left because they like it because it's a victory,

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Speaker 4: is there cheap points they're scoring. This will make the

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Speaker 4: process of drawing legislative districts in Utah less accountable to

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Speaker 4: the voters, not more, because that's what happens when you

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Speaker 4: take that constitutional responsibility away from elected lawmakers and you

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Speaker 4: give it to someone else. It will also result in

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Speaker 4: maps that are far more generous to Democrats.

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Speaker 15: And I think that's the whole point.

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Speaker 4: Is that they hope to pick up at least one seat,

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Speaker 4: maybe two for Democrats in Utah as a result of this.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of a judicial takeover of the political process,

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Speaker 4: one that's designed by leftists to advance the electoral prospects

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Speaker 4: of the Democratic Party in Utah. And it's yet another

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Speaker 4: example of how these independent commissions are so often used

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Speaker 4: by the left to give an unfair, unearned advantage two

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Speaker 4: Democrats in red states, one that they could never otherwise

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Speaker 4: secure through the electoral process.

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Speaker 3: So this is part of a broader redistricting fight in

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Speaker 3: California and Texas. Let me ask this, why is Utah

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Speaker 3: seemingly having this Democrat appeasing moderate streak. Let's just talk

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Speaker 3: more broadly about Utah. You're a constitutional conservative Senator Lee

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Speaker 3: and and one of the best, if not the best,

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Speaker 3: in the nation, and you have an amazing track record,

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Speaker 3: and you're so good to your constituents and you represent

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Speaker 3: your voters. Why is it that in Utah, which is

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Speaker 3: supposed to be this solidly read state, why give any

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Speaker 3: ground at all whatsoever? What are the influences that are

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Speaker 3: seeping into Utah that seem to be changing the politic there?

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Speaker 4: Perhaps first and foremost, I think we've gotten a little

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Speaker 4: complacent with the fact that we've had these Republican majorities

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Speaker 4: in both houses of our legislature and the governor's office,

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Speaker 4: and so many of our other prominent elected positions in

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Speaker 15: The fact that we've had those under.

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Speaker 4: The Republican banner for as many decades as we have

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Speaker 4: has perhaps caused many in the state to not be

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Speaker 4: into some of these details to see what's going on

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Speaker 4: when something like this happens. Then you add to that, Charlie,

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Speaker 4: what happens in a state like mine, a republican state,

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Speaker 4: consistently republican state that has no conservative.

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Speaker 15: Media to speak of it. You know, we've got a

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Speaker 1: We've got a.

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Speaker 4: Handful of great people on the radio, for example, but

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Speaker 4: as far as our print media and our mainstream broadcast

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Speaker 4: media TV and radio within the state, we have no significant,

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Speaker 4: large scale conservative or even right of center media within Utah.

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty mismatched state in terms of the political

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Speaker 4: disparity between that and the news media establishment that doesn't help.

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Speaker 4: But here again, just with the apathy problem or the

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Speaker 4: lack of awareness problem, the more people talk about this

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Speaker 4: more we can draw attention to it. I think we

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Speaker 4: can remedy some of that defect. And I think what

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Speaker 4: you're doing with your visit to Utah next, which I applaud,

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Speaker 4: helps to shed light on these things and helps to

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Speaker 4: raise awareness of what's actually happening.

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Speaker 3: Senator, in closing, here about a minute remaining, I want

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Speaker 3: you to comment on the CDC situation. Senate Republicans express

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Speaker 3: alarm over CDC directors firing. Can't imagine that you share

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Speaker 3: that view, but if you do, I'd love to hear,

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Speaker 3: because I trust your opinion. What is your opinion? What's

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Speaker 3: happening at the CDC right now?

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Speaker 4: Look, my copy of the Constitution says that the executive

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Speaker 4: power of the US government is vested in the president. Now,

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Speaker 4: for that to mean anything, for the Constitution to hold up,

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Speaker 4: things to mean anything, the President, as the head of

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Speaker 4: the executive branch necessarily must have the authority to hire

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Speaker 4: and fire subordinates. Now, some of those subordinate officers require

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Speaker 4: Senate confirmation when he hires them, but there's no comparable

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Speaker 4: be now by statute we have. Congress has over time unwisely,

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Speaker 4: and I believe, unconstitutionally limited the president's firing authority to

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Speaker 4: protection or otherwise. And that's wrong. The executive power is

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Speaker 4: if CDC director or HHS bureaucrat, Senator the president, they

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Senatorly see as soon be right back.

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Speaker 1: Keep the truth.

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Speaker 12: No one else has the guts to say the Charlie

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Speaker 12: Kirk Show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody email us as always Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

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Speaker 3: Let's play play cut fifty three. Please, you guys know

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Speaker 1: About to show them that.

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Speaker 3: They can not hope we do.

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Speaker 11: From me.

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Speaker 1: You won't want to miss this.

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Speaker 3: You're registered now at anthest dot com. Okay, everybody, we

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Speaker 3: heard the Bitcoin dot com studio. That is the Bitcoin

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Speaker 3: dot com studio. So it's been say a week or

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Speaker 3: two probably since we've covered the Epstein situation. We're covering

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Speaker 3: a lot of other stories in the media. They were

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Speaker 3: waiting for this, you see Congress, they brought in a

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Speaker 3: lot of the Epstein victims, and undoubtedly terrible what Epstein

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Speaker 3: did to the underage high school girls and groomed them

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Speaker 3: and sexually abused them. They're bringing in all of these

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Speaker 3: Epstein victims. Interestingly, one of them is a man. So

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Speaker 3: I don't that's breaking news, at least to me. I

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Speaker 3: don't quite know all the details surrounding that and the

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Speaker 3: NBC News thought they have their moment. Is the media

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Speaker 3: they want nothing more than to be able to tie

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Speaker 3: this to Donald Trump. They bring all of these Epstein victims,

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Speaker 3: one after the other after the other, and they have

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Speaker 3: their big moment. The media is just waiting for a

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Speaker 3: metaphorical kill shot on Donald Trump. Amazingly, all the questions

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Speaker 3: they could ask, this is the one. But in some ways,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of glad they asked it in kind of

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Speaker 3: a sick and twisted way. I'm glad they did. I'm

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Speaker 3: glad they were able to air it out because this

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Speaker 3: was a swing and a miss and a media loss

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Speaker 3: right here. And this kind of goes to show that

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of misinformation and half truths that are

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Speaker 3: circulating around this entire thing, especially in the proximity of

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Speaker 3: President Trump. Especially so President Donald Trump has been.

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Speaker 1: Thrown in.

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Speaker 3: To all of this unnecessarily. So here it is NBC

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Speaker 3: News ready to go try to get Donald Trump. We

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Speaker 3: got him dead to rights, we got the panel, we

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Speaker 3: got them all lined up. This is going to be it.

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Speaker 3: The NBC producers they're waiting and they're waiting. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have our moment. We're gonna play cut four hundred.

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Speaker 17: I do have to ask, and I know, and it's

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Speaker 17: just something that I think we're compelled to at this

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Speaker 17: moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions

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Speaker 17: are on a part in did anybody see or hear

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Speaker 17: of the President himself doing anything inappropriate as a related.

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Speaker 1: To Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, the answer is no. Now, President Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump was not involved in any of that stuff, period,

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Speaker 3: hard stop, so anti climactic no, no, This is cut

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Speaker 3: four A one. This is another one of the Epstein victims.

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Speaker 3: Several of us, as a team of survivors, have been

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Speaker 3: discussing creating our own list of names. We know the

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Speaker 3: names many of us were abused by them, and now

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Speaker 3: together as survivors, will confidentially compile the names. Play cut

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Speaker 18: Several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our

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Speaker 18: own list of names. We know the names, many of

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Speaker 18: us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we

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Speaker 18: will confidentially compile the names we all know.

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Speaker 15: We're regularly in the Epstein.

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Speaker 18: World, and it will be done by survivors and for survivors.

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Speaker 3: No one else is involved, So there is ongoing reporting though.

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Speaker 3: This is way you got to be very careful with

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Speaker 3: this stuff. Everybody you saw this with the Jerry Sandusky

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Speaker 3: careful with situations like this because you get a lot

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Speaker 3: you can get a bandwagon effect where a lot of

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Speaker 3: people use half truths to be able to get money

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Speaker 3: So you got you gotta have a lot, you gotta

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Speaker 3: pursue evidence. But you saw right there with the other

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Speaker 3: You got to see this big wind up from NBC.

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Speaker 3: You got to replay cut four hundred, replay cut four hundred.

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Speaker 17: I do have to ask, and I know, and it's

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Speaker 17: just something that I think we're compelled to at this

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Speaker 17: moment with the attention on President Trump, with these questions

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Speaker 17: of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as a related

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Speaker 3: I can watch that on repeat that that's the entire

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Speaker 3: media narrative poof. By the way, if the answer was yes,

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Speaker 3: we would have heard this years ago. Biden would have

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Speaker 3: been sitting on files that showed Donald Trump compromise with

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Speaker 3: anything Epstein. They would have released this a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna be honest with a lot of

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Speaker 3: these movements that we see. We saw this with Sandusky,

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Speaker 3: we saw this with others. And Michael Tracy on Twitter

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Speaker 3: is currently speaking at the big Epstein press conference. So

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Speaker 3: you get a lot of hanger ons, you get a

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Speaker 3: in moments like this that are going to try to

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Speaker 3: either get money or try to ruin ruin somebody's character,

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Speaker 3: and especially they'll try to ruin Donald Trump's character. And

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Speaker 3: you saw an NBC. They can't even do that. You

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Speaker 3: got to use discernment, You got to use prudence. So

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Speaker 3: you got to stay very cautious. Remember the lessons of

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Speaker 3: the me too movement, Remember Kavanaugh, remember.

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Speaker 18: All of that.

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Speaker 3: Do process facts first. Let's go a couple minutes overtime

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Speaker 3: to complete the point both of the break.

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Speaker 7: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news.

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Speaker 1: Break on Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 7: The IRS is confirming there are no plans to issue

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Speaker 7: new stimulus payments this month. The only money you should

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Speaker 7: In the meantime, we're also learning that dog walkers and

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Speaker 7: There's a whole lot happening when it comes to the IRS,

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Speaker 19: Good to see you, Terrence, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 9: Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 7: So talk about some of the common issues that people

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Speaker 19: Exactly, Terence. You can just call one eight hundred nine

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Speaker 7: And being proactive doesn't just apply to people who are taxpayers,

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Speaker 19: Yes, we use every single tool in the shed when

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Speaker 19: it comes to businesses, small businesses specifically, we negotiate payment plans,

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Speaker 19: penalty relief, sometimes even settlements to reduce what you owe.

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Speaker 19: But timing does matter. The longer you wait, I do say,

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Speaker 19: the fewer options that you may have, because you know

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Speaker 19: those penalties can stack up over time. But we obviously

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Speaker 19: know that small businesses and businesses in general are the

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Speaker 19: economic engine of this country, and our job is just

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Speaker 19: to make sure that the IRS doesn't crush your business

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Speaker 19: with bureaucratic overreach. Again, it has lightened up with the

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Speaker 19: President Trump's administration, as we've seen, but the IRS is

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Speaker 19: obviously utilizing every single tool in the shed to put

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Speaker 19: pressure on the average American.

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Speaker 7: We often hear that the IRS is backlogged and so

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Speaker 7: it can take a little while. How long does it

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Speaker 7: typically take to get a resolution of people's issues there

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Speaker 7: through Tax Network USA? Are you able to speed the process?

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Speaker 7: I guess is the better question.

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Speaker 19: Yes, we're very proactive from the start, from the initial

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Speaker 19: comfort consultation process. I guess it just depends on the

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Speaker 19: complexity of your case. We offer various services, offers and

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Speaker 19: compromise that can take a different amount of time than

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Speaker 19: installment agreements, penalty batements, innocent spouse relief. I guess it's

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Speaker 19: just depending on the complexity of your case, Terrence.

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Speaker 7: But the cost of admission is you guys will deal

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Speaker 7: with the IRS. It's not something that we the taxpayer have.

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Speaker 1: To do exactly.

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Speaker 19: We leverage every single legal tool available just to ensure

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Speaker 19: that our clients aren't unfairly targeted or overwhelmed by the

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Speaker 19: IRS actions. Like I noted, probably the people watching or

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Speaker 19: some people at least they've gotten those letters in the mail,

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Speaker 19: they don't know how to deal with them. They've seen

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Speaker 19: the intimidation tactics from the IRS, and they try to

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Speaker 19: ignore the problem until the problem gets too big. That's

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Speaker 19: what we see a lot with tax Network USA. But

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Speaker 19: it's important to know that there are people that can

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Speaker 19: be in your corner every single step of the way

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Speaker 19: dealing with them, so you don't have to This process

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Speaker 19: basically for us is just to give you peace of mind.

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Speaker 19: We know that this is not easy dealing with the IRS.

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Speaker 19: Everybody has to deal with it. Problems maybe bigger than others,

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Speaker 19: but it is important to have somebody on your side,

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Speaker 19: and we're all on the same team here. We don't

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Speaker 19: want to see any more government overreach.

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Speaker 9: Thanks so much, Keim.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always freedom at

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Speaker 3: charliekirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. That's the

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Speaker 3: Charliekirkshow podcast page. We're here at the Bitcoin dot Com Studio.

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Speaker 3: That is the Bitcoin dot Com Studio. Joining us now

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Speaker 3: is Alex Marlow, editor in chief of Breitbartnews that is

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Speaker 3: Breitbart dot Com. Alex, I want to start with a

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Speaker 3: story yesterday which I love and it was not getting

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Speaker 3: enough coverage. We can go to the b roll. President

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has been very clear that he wants to

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Speaker 3: he wants to shrink the map and focus on hemispheric dominance.

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Speaker 3: He was trying to end wars of broad and really

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Speaker 3: focus on our own hemisphere being abused. Yesterday, this is

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Speaker 3: the Maga doctrine, otherwise known as the Monroe Doctrine two

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Speaker 3: point zero. President Donald Trump authorized a military strike yesterday

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Speaker 3: of drug runners and drug traffickers of Trend de Arragua

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Speaker 3: that were bringing life ending drugs to the United States.

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Speaker 3: You can kind of see here in a speedboat. They're

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Speaker 3: in international waters. I don't know all the legal technicalities here.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it passed the Muster because they authorized it, and

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Speaker 3: they they did a drone strike in the Caribbean. Alex,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts here? I'm at least thrilled finally

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Speaker 3: that we're using military force and our own hemisphere against

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Speaker 3: people that would have done harm against the American homeland.

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Speaker 3: They actually are a much greater threat. What you are

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Speaker 3: seeing on screen are a much greater threat than Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 10: Those people's and Russian soldiers. Alex Marlin, Yeah, you're absolutely

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Speaker 10: right about this, Charlie, and this is just perfect in

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Speaker 10: terms of Trump national security doctrine, focusing on our hemisphere first,

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Speaker 10: which I will tell you our national security at our

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Speaker 10: bright part News Francis Martel, she's a Latin American woman,

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Speaker 10: and I'll tell you this hits such close to home

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Speaker 10: with people who've survived in ancestry, who survived communism in

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Speaker 10: our hemisphere and have seen democrat after democrat and establishment

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Speaker 10: Republican after establishment Republican in this country. Focus on Europe,

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Speaker 10: focus on the Middle East, and not remember our own hemisphere. Now,

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Speaker 10: we're all aware of the threat of Far East in China,

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Speaker 10: but China's has an encroagon that's taking place into that

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Speaker 10: exact hemisphere, into Central and South America. And so I

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Speaker 10: look at all of this as countering China. But let's

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Speaker 10: be specific about fentanyl and drugs and these gangs that

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Speaker 10: are taking advantage of our open border and have created

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Speaker 10: these industries that bring devastating drugs, the type of stuff

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Speaker 10: that not just ruined lives, but ruined families, ruined communities.

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Speaker 10: They come up into our country and we've allowed it,

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Speaker 10: we've tolerated. And Trump comes in one fell swoop, wipes

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Speaker 10: out a bunch of them, sends an unbelievable signal that

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Speaker 10: if you try to bring this poison into America. You're

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Speaker 10: going to face deadly consequences. It is just peak Trump

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Speaker 10: and I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let's talk more about that though, because it's

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Speaker 3: for so long we've been worrying about the Taliban, the

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Speaker 3: hills of Afghanistan, the plains of a rock, and I mean,

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Speaker 3: what is the philosophical recalibration here, Alex, the profundity here, like, no,

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Speaker 3: actually show me some threats here. And yeah, you notice

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Speaker 3: there hasn't been a lot of pushback on this from

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. There's been a little bit, but deep down

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Speaker 3: they know that this is a completely defensible military action. Right.

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Speaker 3: It's drug traffic Caribbean. Nothing good that was happening here,

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Speaker 3: Alex Marlow. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: But unfortunately for the laugh, they still have a few

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Speaker 10: people on Bluie the Blue app and.

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Speaker 3: On X the Everything app where they do.

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Speaker 10: Tweet out that this was illegal somehow, because remember, anything

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Speaker 10: Trump does must be illegal.

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Speaker 3: And that's just great because then we get a new

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Speaker 3: cycle of any dunk on them.

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Speaker 10: I love that too, because inevitably someone is going to

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Speaker 10: say taking out illegal alien gang members or trenday Ragua

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Speaker 10: gang members who are trying to work with cartels to

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Speaker 10: get illegal and illicit fanandel into our country to kill

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Speaker 10: Americans that that somehow is illegal for the President to

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Speaker 10: deal with them. No, it's great, it's wonderful, and it's

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Speaker 10: just a reminder that President Trump and Secretary State Rubio

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Speaker 10: is in a good job of this. Keeping an eye

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Speaker 10: on our own hemisphere is a big global reset that

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Speaker 10: we've not seen from any other American politician and is

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Speaker 10: very effective.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have to wonder, is there going to

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Speaker 3: be a judge tudent that's going to require Trump to

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Speaker 3: undo the strike of the eleven people that were killed.

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Speaker 3: And again it's by the way, another court is blocking

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Speaker 3: the deportation of trenday Ragua members after we just destroyed eleven.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for this, and I the deterrence of this.

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Speaker 3: Imagine if you are right now a drug trafficker that

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Speaker 3: is planning to go bring in drugs tonight, you're like, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to do that. My

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Speaker 3: own brace just got blown up by something in the sky.

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Speaker 3: It is a massive deterrent against future drug trafficking. Alex. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course it is.

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Speaker 10: And it's a signal to China that they had to

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Speaker 10: knock it off and again, all roads lead to China.

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Speaker 10: With Trump's foreign policy, remember they got built in Road,

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Speaker 10: They're expanding into South America, that they're trying to dominate

1006
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Speaker 10: trade by cutting deal with Brazil, Chile, Peru, and they're

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Speaker 10: trying to dominate a lithium extraction in Bolivia.

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Speaker 3: All of this is protecting us.

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Speaker 10: So you can just choose your whatever you think is

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Speaker 10: the biggest geopolitical threat and this should fit into that narrative.

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Speaker 10: And that's why the Left is going to have to

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Speaker 10: hold their nose on this one because they know this

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Speaker 10: is a good thing ultimately in the end. But he's

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Speaker 10: protecting Americans and he's doing with surprise, devastating strikes, which

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Speaker 10: does Charlie to your point, said in a signal to

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Speaker 10: the rest of the world that if you mess with America,

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Speaker 10: there's a new sheriff in town.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what we need. Shifting gears here first,

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Speaker 3: just to repeat this, though a two to one decision

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Speaker 3: US Appeals Court has blocked the Trump administration room deporting

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Speaker 3: Venezuela and trendy Aragua members using the Alien Enemies Act.

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Speaker 3: These court stories don't get as much play as they

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Speaker 3: did because we know they'll get appealed and overturned. But

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Speaker 3: this this is just yet another example the trendy Aragua

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Speaker 3: members are pumping drugs into our country and the court

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Speaker 3: says that we are not allowed to deport them. So

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Speaker 3: just another little item there, Alex, what is your thought

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Speaker 3: on H one B discussion. We learned the other day

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Speaker 3: that seventy five percent of all H one bvisas just

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Speaker 3: came from India. There's a lot of uproar here about

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Speaker 3: the amount of H one B workers that's four hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand a year. Meanwhile, they are bragging about how they're

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Speaker 3: taking American jobs and how Americans have to train their replacements.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts here, Alex Marlin.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and the first of all, quickly, i'm the court

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Speaker 10: ruling that this is exactly why I wrote breaking the law,

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Speaker 10: which you've been so kind to promote over and over again, Charlie,

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Speaker 10: is that this is not going to stop until there's

1039
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Speaker 10: mass reform, and there will be reforms, but it's why

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Speaker 10: we need to remain engaged and vigilant because this is

1041
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Speaker 10: their new resistance. This is so much more effective than

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Speaker 10: anything that you're going to see an MSNBC or any

1043
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Speaker 10: sort of Hollywood grassroots stuff like the last Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: None of that's working at all.

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Speaker 10: This is the only thing the Democrats are incompetent, Jasmine

1046
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Speaker 10: Crockett is nothing like this. These courts are blocking Trump

1047
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Speaker 10: and they're all acting as if they're presidents of the

1048
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Speaker 10: United States holding up the executive agenda. It's an outrage

1049
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Speaker 10: and it's a big deal. But to your big point,

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Speaker 10: which I'm deeply passionate about, hmb's, I've been thinking about

1051
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Speaker 10: this in a very specific context with these Indian families,

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Speaker 10: and I do not have it.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to personalize this, make this some sort

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Speaker 10: of a race thing, because it's not. Here's the point.

1056
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Speaker 10: Americans are here. We pay exorbitantly into the system. Our

1057
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Speaker 10: parents pay into the system, our grandparents pay into the system.

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Speaker 10: My mother in law was a daughter of the American Revolution.

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Speaker 10: It's countless generations of people and we all pay in.

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Speaker 10: We have roots down, We work through all of the nonsense.

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Speaker 10: I live out in California. The tax rates insane. We

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Speaker 10: all go into deep debt on student loans, and then

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Speaker 10: our children eventually come out and they want to get

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Speaker 10: a job, and we look at the visa system, and

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Speaker 10: these companies see that there's an Indian somewhere who's also trained,

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Speaker 10: who was willing to do the job for fifteen percent less,

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Speaker 10: and all of that history is just thrown out. The

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Speaker 10: people who have put their roots down, the people who

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Speaker 10: regardless of their homeland, their nation, their people are here,

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Speaker 10: and we just import people because they're willing to work

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Speaker 10: for fifteen percent less to raise the stock of Microsoft

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Speaker 10: by half a percent.

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 10: It should be unacceptable, it should be illegal, to be

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Speaker 10: frank with you, and should be severely limited to extreme

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Speaker 10: to extreme overachievers who are willing to put down roots

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Speaker 10: in America.

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Speaker 3: That's the limits of immigration right now in my view. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so what is the major driving for us heeries

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Speaker 3: at corporations And why is it that the nation of

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Speaker 3: India is so okay with this? Why do they want

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Speaker 3: to keep on exporting some of their best and brightest.

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Speaker 3: What do they get in return from this?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think they have a lot of population and idea,

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Speaker 10: think that they are having a relationship with America where

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Speaker 10: we're somewhat dependent on them. I think it's probably an

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Speaker 10: advantage for them politically. And I do think that there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of money that's also sent back fire remittances

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Speaker 10: as well, So I see this as a probably overall

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Speaker 10: and net positive for them. I just find it deeply

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Speaker 10: disturbing that we never frame up this conversation, Charlie in

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Speaker 10: a way that thinks about American families and the history

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Speaker 10: of American families that have been here and have been

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Speaker 10: dealing with our system. And our system is expensive, and

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Speaker 3: Email us Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. We'll be

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Speaker 3: Can you guys know how it works? Open Mike. We're

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Speaker 3: so you would get rid of all borders. Yes, what

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Speaker 3: species is the baby in the womb? It's a human,

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Speaker 3: but therefore they have human rights. No, lie, you're a

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Speaker 3: temple to left this because you only care about yourself

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Speaker 3: who not about the other people. It's very clear by

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Speaker 3: how you're acting. What can I do to save the country?

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Speaker 3: You answer that question every single day. You are doing

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Speaker 3: something that is bigger than you. A lot of people wait,

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Speaker 3: no time, it.

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Speaker 7: Back up and got to pay you with the same

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Speaker 7: listen I told you did not didn't.

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Speaker 1: Not come to play.

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Speaker 3: We met to take it to high heights. Wait that

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Speaker 3: one vibe.

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Speaker 1: It's a thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a ton of a new about They can not

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Speaker 3: hope me down when you want when they get from loss.

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Speaker 11: We came from the bottom and now we.

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Speaker 9: The loss.

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Speaker 11: Know what we need to do.

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Speaker 3: If you get the Joe, you got nothing the news. Okay, everybody,

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Speaker 3: welcome back. Email us as always Freedom at Charliekirk dot

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Speaker 3: com and subscribe to our podcast. The Great Alex Marla

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Speaker 3: is with us, editor in chief of Breitbartnews Breitbart dot com,

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Speaker 3: Super smart analysis. As always, This is a an This

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Speaker 3: is a remarkable story. Presidentald Trump is contemplating going to

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Speaker 3: Chicago after the proven d c TA over model, which

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Speaker 3: is working. This is a local news station that's reporting

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Speaker 3: in Chicago a repeat offender who had multiple arrests due

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Speaker 3: to violence. This is just this is what happens in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: This is Brandon Johnson and JB. Pritzker Chicago play Cut

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Speaker 3: three sixty five.

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Speaker 8: According to online records, Livingston's history of random acts of

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Speaker 8: violence against women goes back eight years. In twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 8: he was accused of randomly attacking two women months apart,

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Speaker 8: both cases were dropped. In twenty twenty two, Livingston was

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Speaker 8: sentenced to five years in prison after prosecutors said he

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Speaker 8: punched and attempted to rob four women within twenty minutes

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Speaker 8: in the Loop. And yet, just fourteen months later, in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty three, while on parole, Livingston was arrested for

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Speaker 8: hitting a woman in the face on North Michigan Avenue,

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Speaker 8: and in twenty twenty four, he was sentenced to one

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Speaker 8: hundred days in prison after punching a fifteen year old girl.

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Speaker 3: Alex Marlowe, that's just one example of many. He keeps

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Speaker 3: on assaulting women, but the Left keeps on letting him

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Speaker 3: out because of cashless bail. Alex marlow what is your

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Speaker 3: analysis now of what's happening in DC? It looks to

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Speaker 3: be a phenomenal success and is it time to scale.

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Speaker 10: Hey, you don't have to take my word for it,

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Speaker 10: take the mayor's word for it. The Mayor's on board,

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Speaker 10: and additional members of DC City Council are saying yeah,

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Speaker 10: they're on board, So of course it's going to work.

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Speaker 10: The question is can Trump legally expand this because of

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Speaker 10: home rule policies that Trump has I think, leveraged effectively

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Speaker 10: because all these cities need him, and it is a

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Speaker 10: terrific use of our resources to try to restore law

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Speaker 10: and order.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're heading towards a law and order election.

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Speaker 10: As of now, we're far far way off from it,

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Speaker 10: but I do think this will be the number one

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Speaker 10: issue in forthcoming elections. And the culture in Chicago has

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Speaker 10: just been total lawlessness.

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Speaker 9: Again.

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Speaker 10: In Breaking the Law, I wrote about Kim Fox, another

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Speaker 10: Soros funded operative who is the DA there for a

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Speaker 10: very long time, and her letting out twenty five thousand

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Speaker 10: felony case says she refused to charge gang members in

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Speaker 10: a veteran's murder. This was she was on the side

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Speaker 10: of Juicy smoothly at the hate crime hoaxer and kind

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Speaker 10: of laughed when he eventually got away with it. She gloated,

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Speaker 10: acknowledging that he was probably guilty, even though he ended

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Speaker 10: up getting away with it. In the end, that's the

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Speaker 10: culture about crime in Chicago, and JB. Pritzicker ACKs like

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Speaker 10: there's nothing we can do about it. Well, Trump could

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Speaker 10: prove him wrong in a second, and I think that

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Speaker 10: it is if Trump can do it, he should do it.

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Speaker 10: Because it'll clean up an iconic American city and it'll

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Speaker 10: make Trump look great.

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Speaker 9: In the process.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just again the success of DC is remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Let's just don't take again my word for it. Let's

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Speaker 3: play cut two eighty one.

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Speaker 1: Crime.

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Speaker 20: Here's why Democrats cities are plagued by violence should consider

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Speaker 20: getting on board.

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Speaker 9: If you look here at Washington, d C.

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Speaker 20: At a two week period this year compared to last year,

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Speaker 20: property crime.

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Speaker 9: Is down twenty percent.

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Speaker 20: But the biggest thing are all of the violent crimes

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Speaker 20: often includevoting robbery, which is down sixty percent. Homicides are

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Speaker 20: down seventy one percent from last year over this exact

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Speaker 20: same period of time. Assaults with the dangerous weapon down

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Speaker 20: ten percent. Yet if you listen to Democrats, they don't

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Speaker 20: care about those statistics.

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Speaker 3: Alex, you say that you think we might be heading

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Speaker 3: towards a law and order election. It's about time. We

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Speaker 3: do not have enough prisoners in America. We don't have

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Speaker 3: enough arrest of people. Are I pulled this yesterday? This

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Speaker 3: is an amazing, amazing statistic. So this is one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite stats that's never talked about. It's called the

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Speaker 3: national clearance rate. The clearance rate is what percentage of

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Speaker 3: murders get solved? Pretty simple, right, So in nineteen sixty five,

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Speaker 3: what if I told you ninety two percent of our

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Speaker 3: murders got solved. Now the clearance rate's now fifty percent.

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Speaker 3: What has changed in the last sixty years where we

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Speaker 3: now have a forty point decrease in the national clearance rate?

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Speaker 3: That means forty percent more murderers are just walking free.

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Speaker 3: Alex Marlow one minute remaining.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's exactly the point that I think that we

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Speaker 10: can take advantage of and start using to try to

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Speaker 10: clean up this country is that the Left has intentionally

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Speaker 10: protected criminals. They think the law, they think the shoplifter vote,

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Speaker 10: and apparently the murderer vote is just very powerful within

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Speaker 10: their base, and they pander that group of people for

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Speaker 10: some reason, and they came up with some temporary hack

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Speaker 10: where their crime staffs can go down if they simply

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Speaker 10: don't pursue crimes, if they don't prosecute whatever, they can

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Speaker 10: avoid prosecuting.

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Speaker 3: And then it clears their roles.

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Speaker 10: But it ends up just making the cities more lawless,

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Speaker 10: and it means that we don't get justice for people

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Speaker 10: who deserve it. So this is an easy lane for

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Speaker 10: conservatives to step up and say that we're going to

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Speaker 10: be the ones who restore law and order in the society.

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Speaker 10: The left hates law and order because they prefer chaos.

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Speaker 10: That's the whole George Soros model. And we have a

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Speaker 10: huge opportunity here and Trump is seized that clearly, and

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Speaker 10: now it's time to encourage him to keep going.

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Speaker 3: Alex Marlowe, author of Breaking the Law. Check it out

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Speaker 3: Breaking the Law by Alex Miler. Thanks so much from

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Speaker 3: Breitbart dot com.

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Speaker 15: Thanks Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com and subscribe to

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Speaker 3: our podcast. I believe we have Nathan Finocchio joining us next.

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Speaker 3: Night in America. But this is a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a teaser and an appetizer. Nathan Finocchio. Nathan is the

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Speaker 3: founder of THEOSU and THEO Seminary, author of Hearing God

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Speaker 3: and Killer Church. Nathan, Welcome to the program. Nathan is,

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Speaker 3: witht it doubt, one of the smartest and most important

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Speaker 3: theological thinkers of this generation. Nathan, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 21: Hey, it's good to be on the show of the

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Speaker 21: guy that was on South Park. You know you're gilded

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Speaker 21: free for eternity. You've been knighted, Sir Sir Carle Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. And you're sitting in my chair as

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Speaker 3: I'm location unknown, Nathan, there's so much happening, or why

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Speaker 3: don't you take a moment just introduce yourself, your work,

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Speaker 3: your scholarship. You are a deep thinker and you should

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Speaker 3: be taken very seriously. When you say something. I listen

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Speaker 3: and I mean that so please, Nathan, take a moment

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Speaker 3: to introduce yourself and your line of work. Please.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, So this is what a theologian looks like. And

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Speaker 21: I apologize for letting you down, but you know, I

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Speaker 21: love God, I love the church, and I think that

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Speaker 21: the church in American across the world is doing better

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Speaker 21: than we think. First and foremost, but secondly, needs needs

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Speaker 21: a lot of work. I believe that Jesus is coming

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Speaker 21: back for a glorious bride and she's not there yet,

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Speaker 21: but she's on the treadmill and she's doing keto. And

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Speaker 21: so that's sort of my line of work is just

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Speaker 21: helping Christians think and helping.

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Speaker 9: Churches think about the big picture. And so that's kind

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Speaker 9: of what I do.

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Speaker 21: THEO Shoe and THEO Seminary are how we train Christians

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Speaker 21: to think about things, uh, and and think about politics,

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Speaker 21: think about the church and society, uh, think about I

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Speaker 21: mean there's everything. People have been saying that that you know,

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Speaker 21: Christians are getting more political, but it's like no, politics

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Speaker 21: are getting a lot more theological, and so we need people,

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Speaker 21: particularly Christians, namely Christians, to think theologically about politics, et cetera.

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Speaker 21: So we're not like a political organization by any means.

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Speaker 21: But but just de facto, if you're theological, you're you're

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Speaker 21: now political.

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Speaker 9: So that's kind of that's kind.

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Speaker 3: Of what we do. I want to just focus on something.

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Speaker 3: You just said, politics is becoming more theological. What do

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Speaker 3: you mean by that?

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Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I mean every bit of legislation is moral.

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Speaker 21: Every single time that a decision is made is moral.

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Speaker 21: And where do morals come from?

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Speaker 9: Where?

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Speaker 21: You know, so they come from somebody's somebody's morality. So

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Speaker 21: whose morality is the legislature ascribed to? And uh and

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Speaker 21: and prescribing for the populace. So so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 21: debates about about sexuality and gender and and even nationalism

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Speaker 21: and and and borders and and crime, these are theological issues.

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Speaker 21: And they're profoundly theological.

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Speaker 9: I follow a.

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Speaker 21: Black pastor named Jamal Bryant on Instagram who is like

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Speaker 21: a devout uh you know, democrat, and and he believes

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Speaker 21: he would say the exact same thing, you know, that

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Speaker 21: politics are. They're theological because they have to do with people.

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Speaker 21: And if you're speaking about people, people are more moral

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Speaker 21: beings and and and every policy affects somebody's life in

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Speaker 21: a certain way.

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Speaker 9: So that's what I mean by that, so, so.

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Speaker 3: What then, should how should the church act and operate

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Speaker 3: in the political arena? Should the church care about politics?

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Speaker 3: Should the church care about culture? What do you have

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Speaker 3: to say to pastors that say, I don't get involved

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Speaker 3: in that stuff. I don't get involved in policies, I

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Speaker 3: don't get involved in the moral fights. I don't get

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Speaker 3: involved in the cultural fights. I just do the gospel.

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Speaker 3: What would your response to them be?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So my response would be that.

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Speaker 21: If your business is people and policy is always about people,

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Speaker 21: then then inadvertently your business is about policy, and you

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Speaker 21: should absolutely be concerned about policy. And I don't think

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Speaker 21: that necessarily Christians need to get up and endorse candidates,

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Speaker 21: like specifically your pastors need to endorse candidates.

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Speaker 9: I think that pastors just need to talk about They

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Speaker 9: need to talk.

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Speaker 21: About things as they as they come up. You know,

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Speaker 21: in in UH, people often ask me, Nate, what should

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Speaker 21: I preach on? And I just say, scroll TikTok doom.

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Speaker 21: Scroll for an hour and you will find something to

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Speaker 21: preach on it.

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Speaker 9: Like, it's the easiest way to.

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Speaker 21: Write a sermon is to see where your congregation is

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Speaker 21: sitting and what they're going through and then just write

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Speaker 21: and help them and like apply God's word to the

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Speaker 21: questions that people are asking, you know, both individually and corporately.

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Speaker 21: So yeah, so I don't think that there's any way

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Speaker 21: that you can sidestep anymore as a pastor or as

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Speaker 21: as a church leader.

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Speaker 9: And once again, I'm not talking about endorsing.

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Speaker 21: Candidates, but we have to address culture and where things

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Speaker 21: are at dead on because if if a pastor isn't

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Speaker 21: doing it, somebody else is doing it. The bottom line

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Speaker 21: is is that your congregation is being trained politically, you know,

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Speaker 21: through through policy and theologically, and if you're going to

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Speaker 21: ask abdicate the throne of that, then don't be surprised

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Speaker 21: when people start believing stupid things and behaving insane ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, but why is it that the church

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Speaker 3: has abdicated its role? Why is it that the church

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Speaker 3: doesn't engage? The church is silent, and the church is afraid.

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Speaker 3: Where did we go wrong? Was there a moment in time?

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Speaker 3: Was there were teaching? Was there a trend? Was there

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Speaker 3: a creed? Was there a fad? Because the church was

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Speaker 3: not like this forty fifty years ago? But the church

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Speaker 3: is largely silent on what happens outside of its walls.

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Speaker 3: The church is not fighting for life. The church is

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Speaker 3: not fighting against transgenderism. The church is not fighting for

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Speaker 3: the stuff that matters. So where did we go wrong?

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Speaker 21: The seeker sensitive movement is the worst thing that ever

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Speaker 21: happened to the American Church in seventy years.

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Speaker 9: It's destroyed it. That's where we went wrong.

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Speaker 21: So what kind of happened was you had a philosophy that, well,

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Speaker 21: you know, the cats out of the bag. People are

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Speaker 21: going to be a moral Christians no longer have a

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Speaker 21: seat in public life, and so rather than trying to

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Speaker 21: assert ourselves in public life, we're just going to make

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Speaker 21: everybody a Christian. And if we can make everybody a Christian,

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Speaker 21: that's how we can change the nation. So Christians went

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Speaker 21: after the church is designed. So it's a misunderstanding of

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Speaker 21: how the church is designed. The church is designed a

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Speaker 21: to worship God, b to equip the saints, and c

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Speaker 21: to reach the world in that order.

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Speaker 9: And seekers reverse the order.

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Speaker 21: They go, we're the church is designed to reach people,

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Speaker 21: and then to equip people, and then to worship God.

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Speaker 21: And so when you get the design wrong, you get

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Speaker 21: the church wrong. Immediately went when you become a secret church.

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Speaker 21: And a secret church is a church that's after reaching people.

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Speaker 21: And there's nothing wrong with reaching people, but you have

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Speaker 21: to have the order right, and you have to the

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Speaker 21: order matters because if you make everything like for example,

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Speaker 21: my dad's generation when my dad like in the seventies,

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Speaker 21: for them, it's like, how do we get God to church?

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Speaker 21: That's the question that they asked now people, the question

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Speaker 21: that many churches ask, particularly many.

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Speaker 9: Evangelicals, is how do we get people to church?

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Speaker 21: And so you know, you're you're fishing for people, you're

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Speaker 21: trying to That's that's where all the people pleasing starts.

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Speaker 9: That's where oh, don't talk about this.

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Speaker 21: You know you're walking on eggshells constantly because you're worried

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Speaker 21: about offending people because your whole mission is bringing people

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Speaker 21: to church.

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Speaker 9: And so that's what I believe went wrong.

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Speaker 21: Is we became seeker seeker friendly rather than God friendly,

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Speaker 21: and so when you're trying to please people, everything's always

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Speaker 9: And that's part of the reason why we become so effeminate.

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Speaker 21: In our teaching and our theology and our philosophy, because

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Speaker 21: the whole, the whole shtick in evangelicalism is trying to

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Speaker 21: reach people who ultimately don't care, like, as James MacDonald

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Speaker 21: once said, you're just trying to fill your church with terrors.

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Speaker 9: And so what we have to do, and I believe that.

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Speaker 21: This is one of the reasons why Pentecostalism is growing

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Speaker 21: like wildfire all over the world is because we have

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Speaker 21: to get back.

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Speaker 9: To caring about God. Like how do we get God

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Speaker 9: to church?

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Speaker 21: You know, by preaching the right thing, by worshiping correctly,

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Speaker 21: and the result will be that people will notice the

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Speaker 21: difference and they'll want to come. So it's sort of revival,

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Speaker 21: counterintuitively or paradoxically.

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Speaker 3: Bringing God to church, not just people to church. It's

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Speaker 3: beautifully said. You and I have exchanged some text messages

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Speaker 3: on the growing threat of Islam. We only have two

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Speaker 3: minutes remaining in this segment, but I want to explore

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Speaker 3: this with you. How should we think about Islam as Christians?

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Speaker 3: What is this a threat? Is this a problem? Or

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Speaker 3: is this kind of just you know, something that we

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Speaker 3: shouldn't waste our time with.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so great question. Yeah.

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Speaker 21: So, first and foremost, you should read the Church Fathers.

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Speaker 21: Read the first fifteen hundred years of church history and

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Speaker 21: thinkers and pastors.

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Speaker 9: On Islam, like how did they think about it?

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Speaker 21: So that would be my first Go educate yourself on

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Speaker 21: how the Church father the Patristians thought about Islam Number one,

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Speaker 21: because what you're going to discover is that they are

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Speaker 21: a lot more They're a lot more unkind, a lot

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Speaker 21: more militant. They're closer to Christopher Hitchins than they would

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Speaker 21: be to many of our modern leaders number one.

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Speaker 9: Number two, I would say that.

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Speaker 21: I think that we were really naive a couple hundred

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Speaker 21: years ago about what religion was. And I don't believe

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Speaker 21: that the Founders had Islam in mind when they were

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Speaker 21: thinking about freedom of religion, you know, particularly when you're

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Speaker 21: thinking of them coming out of the European context and

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Speaker 21: the Protestant Reformation, and you know if you were if

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Speaker 21: you weren't an Anglican and you were living in England,

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Speaker 21: that was going to be problems. I think that they

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Speaker 21: were thinking, yeah, like, we're all Christians here, we're all

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Speaker 21: Europeans here, you worship, you know, Jesus the way you

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Speaker 21: see fit, all worship Jesus the way I see fit.

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Speaker 21: I think that we have been extremely naive. You know,

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Speaker 21: for example, you have Richard Dawkins about a year ago.

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Speaker 21: You know, any smart atheists like Richard Dawkins would say

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Speaker 21: that they don't want to live really in a society

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Speaker 21: where Islam has any type of political power whatsoever.

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Speaker 9: They want to live in a Christian society.

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Speaker 21: And so the long and the short of it for

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Speaker 21: me is that you have you can't just say, naively,

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Speaker 21: Islam is a religion and that's the end of You

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Speaker 21: have to understand that Islam is a political ideology and

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Speaker 21: that is exactly what they want. So I don't know

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Speaker 21: if I would classify it as a mere religion. And

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Speaker 21: then that's where we get into the thick of things.

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to take that up. Pick that up

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Speaker 3: in just a second. Nathan Finocchio, We're going to be

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Speaker 3: talking tonight at Dream City Church at Freedom and America,

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Speaker 3: author of Hearing God and Killer Church. Why some just

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Speaker 3: survive while others thrive in the presence of God. We'll

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Speaker 3: com slash Charlie. So, Nathan, how then, should we treat

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Speaker 3: the importation of Islam into the West? How's we How

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Speaker 3: should the church react? How should we as Christians act

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Speaker 3: and react to this rising menace that is Islam?

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Speaker 9: Yes, so I think that we need to.

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Speaker 21: There needs to be a radical re evaluation of how

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Speaker 21: we how we characterize and understand Islam, like we have to.

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Speaker 3: We have to.

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Speaker 21: It's naive to just once again once it's just naive

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Speaker 21: to call it a religion, and and it just ends there.

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Speaker 21: It's not it's it's it's a religion with a with

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Speaker 21: a political ideology. It has been from the very start,

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Speaker 21: and and you have to ask yourself, is this political

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Speaker 21: ideology that comes like inherent in the religion?

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Speaker 9: Is it compatible with Western civilization?

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Speaker 21: And Christopher Hitchens and many other very wise atheists and

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Speaker 21: anybody I think that with a brain in their heads

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Speaker 21: would recognize that it is.

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Speaker 9: It is absolutely not compatible. In no way is it compatible.

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Speaker 21: You know, it's funny to me, bro because people complain

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Speaker 21: about Christian nationalism and they use this term as a bludgeon,

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Speaker 21: you know, to try to make people who are Christians

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Speaker 21: not vote their conscience or not, you know, not vote

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Speaker 21: along the things that they believe.

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Speaker 9: Everybody else can believe anything that they want.

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Speaker 21: But as soon as you're a Christian, then you're a

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Speaker 21: Christian nationalist and you're a problem, right and and you

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Speaker 21: want to live like trust, you want to live in

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Speaker 21: a Christian nationalist society. Richard Dawkins wants to live in

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Speaker 21: a Christian nat like England is a Christian nation. It

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Speaker 21: is like they're like the the the Queen is or

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Speaker 21: the king now is head of the Anglican Church, like

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Speaker 21: the English Church.

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Speaker 9: So you want that, like, that's what you want.

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Speaker 21: Because Christian societies, believe it or not, are tolerant societies

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Speaker 21: like that's what they are with they they're tolerant of

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Speaker 21: religions as long as those religions are.

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Speaker 3: That's what they are.

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Speaker 9: They're religions.

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Speaker 21: And and they don't, you know, get into these militant

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Speaker 21: political ideologies. There's not jihadism attached to them. And we're

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Speaker 21: we're playing a very big joke on ours. I mean,

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Speaker 21: we're watching it happen in England right now, like these

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Speaker 21: the grooming gang gangs in Birmingham, and and like the

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Speaker 21: English just brushed it under the rug and brushed it

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Speaker 21: under the drug. They're conservative governments, brushed under the rug.

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Speaker 21: Just continue to no, no, no, you know, multiculturalism and

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Speaker 21: every religion is is is fair.

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Speaker 9: It's not. They're not.

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Speaker 21: They're not the same thing. Muslims are not interested in

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Speaker 21: the same thing. They want power, they want political power.

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Speaker 21: They're taking political power. And if you think that Christians

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Speaker 21: are restrictive, if you think that Christians, you know, are intolerant,

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Speaker 21: you have another thing coming.

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Speaker 9: You are naive.

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Speaker 21: If you don't understand exactly what Islam is, it's more

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Speaker 21: than a religion.

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Speaker 3: I completely and totally agree. And so last point, and

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Speaker 3: we'll pick this up tonight. Nathan at Dream City Church,

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Speaker 3: Freedom Night in America just totally shifting years. Is there

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Speaker 3: a revival happening in America? If so, what can we

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Speaker 3: do to accelerate at one minute remaining?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, there is revival happening in America.

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Speaker 9: It's happening.

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Speaker 21: There's churches, Churches all over America are growing, churches that

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Speaker 21: prioritize the Word of God in the presence of God.

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Speaker 21: Those churches are blowing up. I travel NonStop, It's what

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Speaker 21: I do for a living. I speak at churches, and

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Speaker 21: the churches that I go to are blowing up. Like

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Speaker 21: the church is not shrinking. The church people are becoming

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Speaker 21: more religious worldwide and in America. Like so spiritual is

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Speaker 21: on the on the upstick, and the formula is like

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Speaker 21: it's not a you know, deconstruction, unrecognizable spirituality. It is

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Speaker 21: a strong biblical spirituality that is rooted in the ancient Church.

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Speaker 21: And that's his I do believe, like I would agree

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Speaker 21: with the evangelicals that yes, the church is the answer.

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Speaker 9: Jesus is the answer for America. He always will be.

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01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,920
Speaker 9: It's not a president, it's Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 21: But the church has to be a church that is

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Speaker 21: the covenant community shaped by the Covenant. It can't be

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01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,520
Speaker 21: a church that's trying to build with their own strategy.

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Speaker 21: They have to build according to the blueprint shown to us,

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Speaker 21: and that blueprint is Scripture. So any church that is

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01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 21: adhering to Scripture and is engaging culture the way that

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Speaker 21: that you know, the church has for two thousand years,

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01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 21: those churches are growing. So we are in revival and

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01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 21: we're going to continue to see churches like that can

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Speaker 21: explode and take ground.

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Speaker 3: Nathan, I'll see you tonight, Dream City Church, Freedom in America.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, author of Killer Church and Hearing

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Speaker 3: Hearing God. Well done, Nathan, See you tonight. Email us

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Speaker 3: Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. See you tonight.

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Speaker 11: All right,