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Speaker 2: to welcome you to the program. And Seaton O'Connor also,
Speaker 2: good morning if you're watching on Peacocks. Seaton recap our
Speaker 2: poll questions from hour one, and then we'll get to
Speaker 2: the collective speculation on the Commanders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we put up there, which was a bigger move
Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers signing Brock Party. Excuse me,
Speaker 3: drafting Brock Party or trading for Christian McCaffrey. Right now,
Speaker 3: it's close to anything. Is about fifty five forty five McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd have to know all the inner workings of
Speaker 2: that contract and what Carolina picked up and how they
Speaker 2: were able to stretch this out with signing bonus and
Speaker 2: how if it you know, how it benefited them under
Speaker 2: the salary cap. Brock, party's obvious because mister irrelevant and
Speaker 2: what he's getting paid, and you don't have to extend
Speaker 2: him any time soon. You can wait two years if
Speaker 2: you want. What else do you have seen?
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go with.
Speaker 3: Sorry, hold on a second, my computers give me trouble.
Speaker 2: We're gonna put up there.
Speaker 3: If your boss says that your company you will only
Speaker 3: go as far as you take them, is that a compliment?
Speaker 2: Absolutely or absolutely not? Well, Jerry Jones had this to
Speaker 2: say about Dak Prescott. That's why I brought it up
Speaker 2: that I think he thinks or meant it as a compliment.
Speaker 2: But it's not, because Dak did take you as far
Speaker 2: as you went, and that is you didn't get to
Speaker 2: the conference. Titley, what else do you have, Seaton?
Speaker 3: Is your How about we go with this is February
Speaker 3: great sports month, yes or no?
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not good. There's a lot of sports, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it it's.
Speaker 5: Weird because there's a lot of basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not meaningful basketball. Right. You have the
Speaker 2: All Star Game, you have the Super Bowl, you have
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl, Pro Bowl festivities. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: but no like a war. I mean, I like August
Speaker 2: better than I do February, and you have the biggest
Speaker 2: sporting event in February. But I still like August better. Yes,
Speaker 2: ton as week of.
Speaker 6: A sports month, as February is. Just think back, not
Speaker 6: too long ago, all the Super Bowls were played in
Speaker 6: late January. It's only in recent years that it's still
Speaker 6: at least you have this. So you didn't ever have
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl in February before. Put that in your pipe.
Speaker 2: And smoke it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I liked that they did that. I'm glad they extended
Speaker 5: the season. I pop another two weeks on for me.
Speaker 2: Well, they're going to they're gonna they're gonna put another
Speaker 2: game in there, super yeah, and then then they'll have
Speaker 2: to put in another bye week and then maybe we
Speaker 2: have that day off that's built in with Presidents Day
Speaker 2: on that Monday. All right, what else do youm s.
Speaker 3: H If you could go to either Super Bowl Week
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas and leave Sunday morning or go to
Speaker 3: the game, that's a fun one we do this time
Speaker 3: of year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a classic. But this is a little
Speaker 5: different because so you can either go spend a week
Speaker 5: in Vegas leading up to the Super Bowl, all the
Speaker 5: hoopla and events and parties and so on and so forth,
Speaker 5: but you have to leave Sunday morning, or you could
Speaker 5: fly in Sunday morning and just attend the game and
Speaker 5: go home. You get a ticket, and this is you know,
Speaker 5: a little different of a town for Super Bowl too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, there's no other town, no offense, no, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know. It's people get caught up in wanting to
Speaker 2: go to the parties and you're like, are you sure
Speaker 2: you want to go to the Commissioner's party. It sounds
Speaker 2: like could be fun. No it's not. It's not the
Speaker 2: good food. But you know, you get to see a
Speaker 2: bunch of executives. You're like, hey, wow, hey did you
Speaker 2: see the commissioner?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did. I remember my wife wanted to go years ago.
Speaker 2: She goes, can we go to the Commissioner's party. I
Speaker 2: hear it's great. I go, it's not any fun. And
Speaker 2: then we go there and I said, what do you think?
Speaker 2: And she goes, no, it's not any fun. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's about getting in. It's a big yeah.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, hey, do you get to go to
Speaker 2: the Commissioner's party? I got no? Yeah I did. I
Speaker 2: got in. I scored a couple of tickets. What else
Speaker 2: do we have? Seatnel Connor.
Speaker 3: For pole questions? That's about all of that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: about as many as we got.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well you can dial us up you
Speaker 2: want to weigh in on the pole question. Collective speculation
Speaker 2: has to do with the commanders. Are they getting closer
Speaker 2: to hiring Dan Quinn? Now these aren't reports yet, these
Speaker 2: are just this is collective speculation on those in the know,
Speaker 2: the NFL insiders here, but former Falcons head coach and
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defensive coordinator. Although I don't know if that
Speaker 2: gave him any leverage here in the offseason, considering how
Speaker 2: Dallas ended their season, and you're the defensive coordinator and
Speaker 2: you allowed forty eight points at home with a quarterback
Speaker 2: making a first postseason start. That's not what you want
Speaker 2: to lead with there. Hey, you know got that defense
Speaker 2: of the postseason. Oh, how'd you do well? Aside from
Speaker 2: the green Bay game? You know, Yeah, that's basically it
Speaker 2: the green Bay game. Yeah, Pulm, there.
Speaker 5: Might be a bigger topic here, dan Quinn checking my notes.
Speaker 5: The defensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys, he's a hat
Speaker 5: backwards guy. He does the pencil over the ear head,
Speaker 5: set hat backwards. You can't be a head coach in
Speaker 5: the NFL and have your hat backwards. And before you
Speaker 5: throw Matt Patricia in my face, that actually proves my point.
Speaker 5: You can't be. It's like you dressed the part a
Speaker 5: little bit. I don't think you can go hat backwards
Speaker 5: and be an NFL head coach. Al Shanahan, I think
Speaker 5: you used to.
Speaker 2: This is very Colin cowherdish of you, Paul.
Speaker 3: He's a big anti hat backwards the he's not elite
Speaker 3: because he wears a hat backward.
Speaker 5: Yes, this goes back to the Herd critiquing Ken Griffy Jr.
Speaker 5: Years ago For the hat backwards. But Tony Romo was
Speaker 5: a hat backwards guys with the Cowboys. He would never
Speaker 5: be great. There's some validity to it. But you can't
Speaker 5: wear your hat backwards for your an NFL head coach.
Speaker 3: Okay, Carson Wentz he was terrible. You know why hat
Speaker 3: backwards or as hatback.
Speaker 2: That's most of it.
Speaker 5: And the injuries and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other things, Ancil every things, but hat backwards.
Speaker 5: Now, the coordinator, you could do it because you're not
Speaker 5: in front of the media.
Speaker 2: Joe Walton, the former Jets head coach, I think he
Speaker 2: might have been a hat backwards at times. How'd that
Speaker 2: work out? Probably not that well. By the way, speaking
Speaker 2: of the Jets, man, there are a lot of drama
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. What was it Diana Racini in The
Speaker 2: Athletic talking about all the things going on behind the
Speaker 2: scenes with you know, Aaron Rodgers, Zach Wilson, the owner,
Speaker 2: the coach, what a mess. At one point, Robert Salah,
Speaker 2: according to the article, was concerned about the leaks in
Speaker 2: the organization. And I guess he got all of his
Speaker 2: assistant coaches in a room and he said, give me
Speaker 2: your phones. I want to check and see who's the leak.
Speaker 2: That's what you're worried about. Also, you know, my problem
Speaker 2: with the Jets, My biggest problem with the Jets, and
Speaker 2: I use other teams as a comparison. When you know,
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns lost their quarterback, they still played good football.
Speaker 2: They made it to the playoffs. I want to see
Speaker 2: what you do. You lost Aaron Rodgers. I got it.
Speaker 2: You still had a really good roster. At least we
Speaker 2: were told you had a really good roster. Then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Aaron's not in there, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: the offensive line's not good, or you know, they don't
Speaker 2: have a passing attack. But the Cleveland Browns were able
Speaker 2: to salvage this. Who's the other team lost their quarterback,
Speaker 2: but they still The Vikings lost Kirk Cousins still played well.
Speaker 2: That's where my biggest problem with the Jets is that
Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett is the offensive coordinator and when he was
Speaker 2: asked to be the offensive coordinator when Aaron Rodgers wasn't
Speaker 2: in there, failed miserably. They should have at least gotten
Speaker 2: some kind of quality play from the quarterback. And then
Speaker 2: you sprinkl in a really good defense. You got a
Speaker 2: really good running back, you got a couple of good receivers,
Speaker 2: one elite receiver. Shouldn't that be enough to compete? And
Speaker 2: they didn't but Nathaniel Hackett is back next year because
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is back. Aaron Rodgers his fingerprints on the
Speaker 2: organization were terrible, the people he brought in, you know,
Speaker 2: big disappointment there. But the Robert Salah, according to the report,
Speaker 2: wanted to do research on, you know, Marquee coaches who
Speaker 2: lost a quarterback during the season and what were their records,
Speaker 2: because he wanted to say to ownership, hey, you know
Speaker 2: this happened to Mike Tomlin or this happened to Bill Belichick,
Speaker 2: and look what their record is, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: save his So he had a job that he's trying
Speaker 2: to save during the season instead of doing his job
Speaker 2: during the season to save his job. But what a mess.
Speaker 2: And then I guess now this according to the article
Speaker 2: that the Jets were upset. The Giants did didn't get
Speaker 2: as much criticism as the Jets did. This is this
Speaker 2: high school stuff. Yeah, pulling.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty two, the Jets had the twenty ninth ranked
Speaker 5: offense in the league. Twenty twenty three, they had the
Speaker 5: twenty ninth ranked offense league. Yeah, Wilson was a quarterback
Speaker 5: both years. That's nothing really changed except for you plug
Speaker 5: in a higher end quarterback with expectations. The defense, though,
Speaker 5: did go from the fourth ranked offense in the league
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two to twelfth rank, which is still respectable,
Speaker 5: and it kept him in a lot of games. You
Speaker 5: saw there was a stat this year that some of
Speaker 5: the top quarterbacks in the league had their worst game
Speaker 5: of the year against the Jets.
Speaker 2: Yes, but that should have been enough, just like the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns or the Vikings, to keep you competitive, and
Speaker 2: that did. That's why what Kevin Stefanski did with the
Speaker 2: Browns when they lost to Shaun Watson and took him
Speaker 2: a while and then they got Joe Flacco, but everything
Speaker 2: else sort of they lost Who's my Chubb? They lost
Speaker 2: Chubb as well, and still we're a playoff team, playoff
Speaker 2: caliber team, you know. So that's where the Jets failed miserably.
Speaker 2: And I have to point my fingers at the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Plus Zack Wilson, according to the article, thought that Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers was going to be his big brother, that he
Speaker 2: would be able to help him, and then, according to
Speaker 2: the article, Aaron ghosted him. Yea, it was like he
Speaker 2: was getting his surgery and then ghosted Zack Wilson, and
Speaker 2: I think Zach Wilson thought, oh, I got Aaron. I'll
Speaker 2: use him as a sounding board to get through this.
Speaker 2: And you know, they also point out that it was
Speaker 2: true Zach Wilson did not want to play anymore for
Speaker 2: the Jets because he didn't want to get hurt and
Speaker 2: then hurt his opportunity to play for somebody else. So
Speaker 2: that was reemphasized. They had over thirty sources on these stories. Yeah, Seed,
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 3: Were going to ask yourself who was in a better
Speaker 3: spot right now, we just had this one sent in
Speaker 3: Zach Wilson or mac Jones.
Speaker 2: I would say mac Jones still has a chance to
Speaker 2: start for the Patriots if they decide that they're not
Speaker 2: going to use that third pick on a quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. Who's going to hire Zach Wilson. And even
Speaker 2: as a backup quarterback? Do I want him as a
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. I don't want a backup quarterback who thinks
Speaker 2: he should still be starting. And it is a young guy, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Paul mac Jones.
Speaker 5: You feel like he saw him play some pretty good
Speaker 5: football at a couple points in his career. Zach Wilson,
Speaker 5: It was like, he would have one good pass a quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I thought you were just waiting for any type of
Speaker 5: consistency in any game. I mean he would have one
Speaker 5: drive and then you know, eight bad drives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a couple of games though. I just
Speaker 2: thought they should have been fair to him. Let him
Speaker 2: play now, just let's see what he has. And even
Speaker 2: if you know what he has, he's better than Tim Boyle,
Speaker 2: He's better than Trevor Simeon, Like, you know, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? Put him out there? Let play stop? You know, hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna put you in. Now, we're gonna take Yeah,
Speaker 2: I put you in and take you No, And what a
Speaker 2: dysfunctional organization?
Speaker 6: Yes, don What about personality of Zach and Mack kind
Speaker 6: of similar to a Caleb where they've been known to
Speaker 6: whine and throw fits and complain even if they're in
Speaker 6: not such great situations, they have reason for some frustration.
Speaker 6: It does seem like that they kind of have maybe
Speaker 6: some personality flows with how they handle pressure.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's pressure, I mean it might be.
Speaker 2: Mac Jones reportedly was annoying in practice with Belichick. He
Speaker 2: kept saying why, you know why, but he was trying
Speaker 2: to understand. Zach Wilson came in and I think everybody
Speaker 2: he looked the part of a quarterback like that. I
Speaker 2: think that's the problem with a lot of people looking
Speaker 2: at that in the draft. And I said, well, did
Speaker 2: you watch him play? I think the toughest game was
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina and he didn't look good. But he rolled left,
Speaker 2: threw back right fifty yards at his pro day and
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, oh my god, did you see
Speaker 2: that he did? He did the Mahomes thing. You roll left,
Speaker 2: throw back right sixty yards. Oh my god, he can play.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, can you throw a seven yard out pattern?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: Can you throw hit a hook pattern?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And didn't have a great I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's once again you're going, all right, did you watch
Speaker 2: him play? I'm sure you watched him play. Are you
Speaker 2: convinced that that's enough of a sample size? We're taking
Speaker 2: quarterbacks now based off one year? Now, Trey Lance, it's
Speaker 2: one year. I think Dwayne Haskins rest in Peace based
Speaker 2: off one year. Zach Wilson off one year, And that
Speaker 2: to me is where I need a little bit more
Speaker 2: of a sample size. I need to see the highest
Speaker 2: of highs and lowest of lows and are you playing
Speaker 2: against quality competition? And if you did, then how did
Speaker 2: you fare? I just think those things are so important
Speaker 2: that I need more than twelve games. Mitchell Trubisky had
Speaker 2: one season, Bears went all in on him, and that
Speaker 2: would worry me. Like Drake May I've got I've got
Speaker 2: a career there, Caleb Williams, I have a couple of
Speaker 2: seasons there.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Jayden Daniels played at Arizona State. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to look at Arizona State and then I'm going
Speaker 2: to look at LSU and you know, see what what
Speaker 2: the flaws are? Did you improve on anything? And I
Speaker 2: think that's that's going to be important with these teams
Speaker 2: who are going to be taking these quarterbacks. What give
Speaker 2: me your give me what your sample size here is of?
Speaker 2: You know, good football? Quality football? Yes, Mark, think.
Speaker 9: About how many more mistakes GMS would have made if
Speaker 9: quarterbacks can come out after one year. Christian Hackenberg and
Speaker 9: all these guys like, hey, he'd be the number one
Speaker 9: pick in the draft right now.
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, Pull, I know it's very early in
Speaker 5: the pre draft season, but at the Senior Bowl Michael
Speaker 5: Pennox junior hand sized ten and a half is okay,
Speaker 5: that is a statement measurement.
Speaker 3: First, rain proof right there, right there, you can playing
Speaker 3: Canada with those hands.
Speaker 2: Tried and true.
Speaker 5: I draft his hands.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be great if somebody says, hey, why'd you
Speaker 2: draft him? Oh he's got big hands. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 2: big hands. Rock Purtty small hands, by the way, had
Speaker 2: a hard time, you know, holding on the football in
Speaker 2: the rain.
Speaker 5: Michael Pennix walk around no gloves on all through winter,
Speaker 5: showing them off at the senior ball.
Speaker 2: Check these babies out. Look at my hands. Hey, can
Speaker 2: I see your tape?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 2: You don't want to see that, and look at my hands.
Speaker 2: Let me hand you my tape. Oh okay, Hello, let's
Speaker 2: go to break. Oh sorry, Marvin, I wasn't pointed at you.
Speaker 2: You just having to be here.
Speaker 7: For it, all right.
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Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, Football Night in America's studio analyst and a
Speaker 2: three time Super Bowl champ with the Cowboys head coach
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys back on the program, Good to have you.
Speaker 2: When you were head coaching the Cowboys and an assistant
Speaker 2: would be asked by another team to interview, how does
Speaker 2: that process work as the head coach with one of
Speaker 2: your assistant coaches?
Speaker 10: You know, I think you have to try to facilitate
Speaker 10: it as best you can. I don't think the system
Speaker 10: is a great system, because there's no doubt there's some
Speaker 10: distraction that's going to come with it. Particularly you know,
Speaker 10: these guys are usually coming from playoff so you're playing
Speaker 10: these playoff games and guys are getting ready to do
Speaker 10: an interview, but you carve out some time, you know,
Speaker 10: I thought the guys you know in Detroit seemed to
Speaker 10: do a good job with it. You know, hey, you
Speaker 10: got three hours on Saturday, you got a couple hours
Speaker 10: on Friday, that kind of thing. But you know, the
Speaker 10: tricky part about it is you have to prepare for
Speaker 10: the interviews and you can't just go in there cold.
Speaker 10: You're not going to get the jetob So you have
Speaker 10: to allocate sometime in an already packed week. When you're
Speaker 10: a coach, I mean every minute is occupied from you know,
Speaker 10: the start on Monday morning till getting ready to go
Speaker 10: on the field on Sundays. So to carve it out
Speaker 10: that time can be a little tricky.
Speaker 2: What still bothers you about the Lions laws, Well, they
Speaker 2: had it, you.
Speaker 4: Know, they played so well.
Speaker 10: You're up twenty four to seven with thirty minutes to go,
Speaker 10: you think that, hey, you know, we should be able
Speaker 10: to we should be able to seal this deal. You know,
Speaker 10: there were a couple of moments there, a lot of
Speaker 10: conversations about Dan Campbell going forward on fourth down in
Speaker 10: two occasions in the second half.
Speaker 4: A big part of.
Speaker 10: Their success all year long has been his belief and
Speaker 10: his aggressiveness in his players and they've responded, well, we'll
Speaker 10: never be able to measure the residual impact of that
Speaker 10: and how that helped them get there. Having said that,
Speaker 10: you know, with seven to go in the third quarter
Speaker 10: and you're up twenty four to ten, and you have
Speaker 10: the opportunity to make it a three score game, that's
Speaker 10: the one that I'm like, huh, you know, three scores
Speaker 10: is hard psychologically. Two scores you say, okay, we got
Speaker 10: to stop. It's twenty four to ten. Now we go drive.
Speaker 10: We're back in it. And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 4: You make it. You make it seventeen points and three scores.
Speaker 10: All of a sudden, they're saying, hey, we got to
Speaker 10: score fast, we got to stop them, and if they
Speaker 10: score again, there's all these metal gymnastics that you play.
Speaker 10: So for me, that was an opportunity, even though aggressive
Speaker 10: this has been good for them, that was an opportunity
Speaker 10: to kick go up by three scorers and then the
Speaker 10: one at the end. It's hard for me not to
Speaker 10: try to go for the tie. But when all that
Speaker 10: stuff starts to unravel, you know, sometimes those decisions you
Speaker 10: make as a coach can help your team. Now if
Speaker 10: they go the right way, and they make those fourth downs.
Speaker 10: You know, they get the result that they want, But
Speaker 10: you can't lose sight of the fact that they didn't
Speaker 10: play great defense in the second half of the game
Speaker 10: San Francisco going up and down the field, and I
Speaker 10: think that was the difference as well.
Speaker 2: This may sound obvious your answer, but I'll still pose it.
Speaker 2: If you're the Niners, are you more concerned about Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes or Kansas City's defense?
Speaker 10: Well, ultimately, you're more concerned about Patrick Mahomes because what
Speaker 10: he's done in big moments in big game game is
Speaker 10: really unprecedented in my view. He always seems to make
Speaker 10: the play to get him to the games and then
Speaker 10: to win those games. So ultimately, I think it will
Speaker 10: come down to him. But your points, well made your
Speaker 10: questions a great one. They've played so well on defense,
Speaker 10: and you think, God that Steve spag Nolton with a
Speaker 10: lot of young guys on that defense really good on
Speaker 10: all three levels. But you know, you and I have
Speaker 10: talked about this before about Kansas City. I've been so
Speaker 10: impressed with how they've gotten to this point. You know,
Speaker 10: they flopped around a lot this year, and you know
Speaker 10: they were looking for their identity and I had a
Speaker 10: chance to do that playoff game a few weeks ago,
Speaker 10: the Real Cold went against Miami, and you know.
Speaker 4: They just had a look in their eye. The head
Speaker 4: coach did, the quarterback.
Speaker 10: Did you know the different guys we spoke to, and
Speaker 10: it just seemed to me a great example of a
Speaker 10: team saying, Okay, who can we trust?
Speaker 4: Who can we trust on offense?
Speaker 10: We can trust fifteen, we can trust ten, we can
Speaker 10: trust eighty seven, we can trust four and everybody else.
Speaker 10: If they get a chance to touch the ball, that's fine.
Speaker 10: And it's amazing how when you do that those other
Speaker 10: guys start to respond. And to me, it's been a
Speaker 10: masterclass in coaching by Andy Reid to win the way
Speaker 10: they've won the last three weeks, the last couple on
Speaker 10: the road, and to your point, the defense has a
Speaker 10: lot to do with it too, but I love how
Speaker 10: they've embraced their identity on offense. It's been fantastic.
Speaker 2: We're talking to Jason Garrett Football Night in America analyst.
Speaker 2: This whole game manager thing has taken over with Rock
Speaker 2: Purdy and I look, I might be somebody who led
Speaker 2: the charge on this. Years ago. I called Alex Smith
Speaker 2: a game manager. But I didn't mean it as a negative.
Speaker 2: I mean, you were there with Troy Aikman. Was Troy
Speaker 2: a game manager?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I agree with you. I mean, that's what quarterbacks are
Speaker 10: supposed to do. You're supposed to be great decision makers.
Speaker 10: Throw the ball to the right guy and make the
Speaker 10: kind of decisions that help you win games. And if
Speaker 10: that's a game manager, great. It used to be game
Speaker 10: manager and gunslinger. Roy is managing games and Brett Farr's
Speaker 10: a gun slinger, right, you know. And and when it
Speaker 10: goes sideways at the end of a game because the
Speaker 10: gun slinger is trying to stick a ball in there
Speaker 10: and it gets tipped up in the air, you know,
Speaker 10: he was aggressive, he was ripping it in there.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 10: I'd rather try to win the game, and that's what
Speaker 10: Troy was able to do for us. I absolutely love
Speaker 10: Rock Purty and and the story of hey, he's the
Speaker 10: last pick in the draft, fascinating.
Speaker 4: I love all that.
Speaker 10: But this guy has played so well for such a
Speaker 10: young guy to walk in. I get it's a good environment.
Speaker 10: I get they have a good team. Kyle does a
Speaker 10: fantastic job. I understand all that. Look at the record
Speaker 10: of the backup quarterbacks in San Francisco not named Jimmy
Speaker 10: Garoppolo the last few years ain't real good. So a
Speaker 10: lot of guys can't simply just go in there and play.
Speaker 10: This guy's played at a high level. Sometimes people have
Speaker 10: an agenda when they evaluate, and that always gets them
Speaker 10: in trouble. Just watch what he's done, Look at the production.
Speaker 10: He's been impressive, and he made the he made the
Speaker 10: big plays in the game the other day with his
Speaker 10: feet to allow them to win that ballgame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. That's what I think is lost on
Speaker 2: people that he he does. He doesn't have to do
Speaker 2: a lot of crazy things or be a gunslinger or uh,
Speaker 2: you know, take a risk because of the talent around him.
Speaker 2: And when he does, you know, when he's forced into
Speaker 2: make it a play. He did make three plays with
Speaker 2: his with his legs, and and he looked quick when
Speaker 2: he was making those plays. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: role that plays in the super Bowl there, but it
Speaker 2: feels like, and I remember saying this to a couple
Speaker 2: of analysts, he might not get credit unless he wins
Speaker 2: two super Bowls like he wins one. They'll go yeah,
Speaker 2: but hey, with that team you know, like Brad Johnson
Speaker 2: or Trent Dilford. Well, with that team, if he wins
Speaker 2: his second one, then they'll go all right. I think
Speaker 2: he's a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's an unfair standard. I really do.
Speaker 10: And if you really watch how he plays, if you
Speaker 10: think about what the game manager would be described as,
Speaker 10: it would be one two three throw it, one two three,
Speaker 10: throw it, one two three four five throw it.
Speaker 4: The guy's always open. All you're doing is making these decisions.
Speaker 4: Watch the plays that he makes. Watch the touchdown he
Speaker 4: throws to Ayuk where he drops back, slides this way,
Speaker 4: slides again and sticks the ball in the hole between
Speaker 4: the two defenders. Obviously the plays that he made with
Speaker 4: his feet at the end of the game. So this
Speaker 4: guy makes these kind of sneaky plays. He doesn't value.
Speaker 4: When he walks in the room, he looks like the paperboard.
Speaker 4: We get all that. You know, he's not six four
Speaker 4: two twenty, you know, shot out of a cat and
Speaker 4: when he runs it and throws it, we understand that.
Speaker 4: But watch him play football. He plays at a high level,
Speaker 4: and he has and he's young. This is year two.
Speaker 4: He's really impressive.
Speaker 2: Can you help me understand what Jerry Jones is saying
Speaker 2: about Dak Prescott. So he says, Dak has done nothing
Speaker 2: to change my mind about any promise for the future.
Speaker 2: I think I've said that we will go as far
Speaker 2: as Dak takes us in the playoffs. Remember that we'll
Speaker 2: go as far as Dak takes us. And that's how
Speaker 2: far we went. We will go as far as Dak
Speaker 2: takes us. Okay, this is how far he took you.
Speaker 2: You didn't even get to a conference title game. So
Speaker 2: it doesn't he may mean it as a compliment, Jason,
Speaker 2: it doesn't sound like a compliment.
Speaker 10: Well, let's go back to your question about the Chiefs.
Speaker 10: Why are the Chiefs dangerous? They got an amazing quarterback,
Speaker 10: certainly the best of his generation, and they have a
Speaker 10: fantastic defense. Right, Why are the forty nine ers in
Speaker 10: the big game? A lot of weapons on offense. Quarterback
Speaker 10: play is really good. They got a fantastic defense. So
Speaker 10: something I learned a long time ago playing for the
Speaker 10: Cowboys on those Super Bowl teams is teams win. Now,
Speaker 10: you have to have a great quarterback. Quarterback play is critical,
Speaker 10: but teams win. People forget that. The teams in the
Speaker 10: nineties with the number one defense in football. Right, we
Speaker 10: also had Troy Aikman, Emmett Smith, Michael Irvin, unbelievable offensive line,
Speaker 10: and go on and on and on.
Speaker 4: Teams win in the NFL, and so.
Speaker 10: This idea that it's all on the quarterback to be
Speaker 10: able to take your team all the way NFL is
Speaker 10: too good.
Speaker 4: You can't do it. John Elway is probably the best
Speaker 4: example for me. For years.
Speaker 10: He took the city of Denver and went like this
Speaker 10: and put him on his shoulders and took him to
Speaker 10: the playoffs and had these bad Super Bowl losses. When
Speaker 10: they got better around him, they played better defense, they
Speaker 10: got Terrell Davis all of a sudden, you know, John
Speaker 10: Elway's John Elway. So you know, the idea that you're
Speaker 10: going to put it all on the quarterback is unfair.
Speaker 10: Dak didn't play his best ball against Green Bay. We
Speaker 10: all know that the defense didn't play their best ball either.
Speaker 10: So teams win. When the Cowboys are able to win
Speaker 10: some of these critical games as a team, that's when
Speaker 10: they're gonna get That's whe're going to go where Jerry
Speaker 10: Jones Watson to go.
Speaker 2: Would you read have Travis Kelcey or Rob Grinkowski.
Speaker 10: You always do this to me? Why do you always
Speaker 10: do this to me? Co Spelicheck versus Brady. I wait
Speaker 10: until the end of the interview to bring this up.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 2: So who would you rather have? Travis Kelcey or Rob Grenkowski?
Speaker 10: I'll take Travis Kelcey just by a hair both of them.
Speaker 10: You know, they're all time grace, their top five tight ends.
Speaker 10: Ever to play both those guys so.
Speaker 2: Tougher to defend if you were if you were running
Speaker 2: the defense here defending Gronk or Kelsey.
Speaker 10: You know, for for me, I think it's more challenging
Speaker 10: to defend Kelsey just because he's a little bit more elusive.
Speaker 10: I think he's probably a better route runner, and so
Speaker 10: you know that matchup is hard. But it's the same
Speaker 10: problem you put Gronk over there. His size, his ability
Speaker 10: to just go get a ball is really unprecedented at
Speaker 10: the position. So you know, they're both both in metal players.
Speaker 10: Gotten into my head on take Kelsey. That's probably because
Speaker 10: he was eleven for eleven the other day in my
Speaker 10: most recent memory.
Speaker 4: But they're both incredible.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Tom Brady or Troy Aikman?
Speaker 4: Wow? Now, you're killing me.
Speaker 10: I think Troy Aikman is the most underrated quarterback in ball.
Speaker 10: I don't think people realize how great this guy was.
Speaker 10: And he's obviously a dear friend of mine, we had
Speaker 10: lockers next to each other for eight straight years. But
Speaker 10: I just think he's an amazing, amazing football player. I've
Speaker 10: never seen a guy put a team first more.
Speaker 4: Than he did.
Speaker 10: If you think about that, you know the temptation to
Speaker 10: make it all about me, make it I'm the quarterback
Speaker 10: of the Cowboys, cash in, make it about my stats,
Speaker 10: make it a He made it about winning. And if
Speaker 10: you think about his postgame interviews, anybody who watched him
Speaker 10: do interviews for years would say, Troy Aikman going on
Speaker 10: a broadcasting are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: I mean he's like boring. Well, he was boring on purpose.
Speaker 10: It was all intentional because he was leading the team
Speaker 10: and he was trying to limit the distractions, and so
Speaker 10: his leadership was rare. And then his ability to go
Speaker 10: out there and play at the highest level in the
Speaker 10: biggest moments was incredible. Now Tom Brady comes along and
Speaker 10: you say Troy won three, Tom has won seven. You
Speaker 10: know the facts tell you that boy we got it.
Speaker 10: You know, Brady's is the first face we chisel on
Speaker 10: Mount Rushmore. But so, okay, I got into my head
Speaker 10: I'd take Brady. But Troy Aikman could do anything that
Speaker 10: Tom Brady could do. In my opinion, he's one of
Speaker 10: the all time greats.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you're being fair to Troy when
Speaker 2: you say, you know, he had all these weapons, and
Speaker 2: I don't know. He was probably able to game manager,
Speaker 2: which maybe was a negative to people, but he did
Speaker 2: he manage the game. He had Emmett. You, I mean,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you share the wealth with everything that you
Speaker 2: had there instead of being one dimensional. Let's throw it
Speaker 2: forty times you guys led with Emmett and then you
Speaker 2: know you needed a big play. You had IRV that
Speaker 2: you know would be there to get a first down.
Speaker 2: So I think to suppress your ego at that position
Speaker 2: with that team is even more challenging than what people realize, no.
Speaker 4: Doubt, no doubt. And it's a different time.
Speaker 10: It's twenty five thirty years ago now, and the world's
Speaker 10: crazy now with you know, everything so immediate and everything
Speaker 10: so much in your face, just with how the media is.
Speaker 10: But it was wild back then too. I mean there
Speaker 10: was a lot of attention given to that team and
Speaker 10: he led it so well. And I agree with what
Speaker 10: you said. We always led with Emmett, but sometimes we
Speaker 10: led with Troy.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: A typical Troy Aikman.
Speaker 10: Game was he's fifteen for nineteen at half for one
Speaker 10: hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns, and then he
Speaker 10: finishes nineteen for twenty six, you know, because we throw
Speaker 10: it six times in the second half and we run
Speaker 10: it more. Yeah, So it wasn't always run, run, run,
Speaker 10: you know, Troy fit and sometimes it will start with
Speaker 10: the pass and then over the course of the game
Speaker 10: we just wear them down by do them both.
Speaker 2: I like to make you sweat a little bit.
Speaker 4: You do a great job. Why they call you the
Speaker 4: best in the visiting.
Speaker 2: And you thought coaching the Cowboys was difficult. Come on,
Speaker 2: come on, and great to talk to you, and thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. As always, Chase, I always enjoy it.
Speaker 4: You're fantastic. Have a great day.
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Speaker 5: We also have Mike McCarthy, Sean McDermott, We got it.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of them. It's got to put all together.
Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh, Right, we got a mic problem, Matt LeFleur. No,
Speaker 2: that doesn't factor it now.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's mc McDaniel, McDaniels, right, McDonald, McCarthy, McCarthy, McVeigh.
Speaker 2: There's a pattern here. You go into go into a
Speaker 2: meeting with an owner. You put the make in front
Speaker 2: of your name. Wait, I think your last name was quinn. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's McQuinn, Dan, Dan McQuinn. Jason in Detroit, Hi, Jason,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey guys, I finish taking a call. I'll try to
Speaker 11: tap you right away, just like you said. Marvin yesterday
Speaker 11: talked about the Pistons, you know, he kind of stumbled
Speaker 11: upon them kind of dominating the league for almost four
Speaker 11: years there. So I'd say also, the worst loss for
Speaker 11: us wasn't eighty seven. It was eighty eight when we
Speaker 11: had again like we had the thing one basically game six,
Speaker 11: and we lost and then went along to lose in
Speaker 11: Game seven when Isaiah had his ankle. Her But anyway,
Speaker 11: my question was, everybody has their own goat now. So
Speaker 11: I want to nominate Isaiah as Mago because he beat
Speaker 11: Magic Bird and Michael all in their basically their primes
Speaker 11: and owned the NBA in a way if you really
Speaker 11: look at it, like Marvin was kind of, you know, saying,
Speaker 11: beside a couple of little things here or there, we
Speaker 11: kind of almost ran the league for a little while there.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Jason, Isaiah'll be happy to
Speaker 2: know that you're his goat when it comes to Detroit
Speaker 2: Piston basketball. Yeah, they got through everybody, eventually got through
Speaker 2: the Celtics and then trying to hold off the Bulls
Speaker 2: for as long as they could. Had the Lakers. They
Speaker 2: were a formidable team, you know, Hall of Fame coach
Speaker 2: and man, did you have a deep roster? Carrie in
Speaker 2: Kansas City? Hi, carry what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Hey? Dan? First time, long time six three, two twenty.
Speaker 7: I know February is typically a pretty terrible month for
Speaker 7: sports fans, but this year may be the exception. Not
Speaker 7: only are my Chiefs in the super Bowl, but isn't
Speaker 7: this the month when the Yukon Alumni magazine profile on
Speaker 7: Marvel print comes out?
Speaker 2: Yes it is Carrie. Yes, I don't know when the
Speaker 2: magazine comes out that features Marvin as a former Connecticut Husky. Yes, Marv.
Speaker 9: I was told in like two weeks the issue will
Speaker 9: be out.
Speaker 2: So they're gonna wait until after the Super Bowl because
Speaker 2: they don't want to compete with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were like, Marvin, go to Vegas, you can
Speaker 9: even come back, all right, and then we'll release it.
Speaker 2: And then oh, man, was Marvin so nervous that day.
Speaker 2: He was just and then we're being asked questions about
Speaker 2: working with Marvin and like, you know, did you see Marvin,
Speaker 2: you know, being a contributor and what what are his
Speaker 2: strong traits here? I'm asking all these questions. I go,
Speaker 2: I don't know, just a good dude, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: think that's going to look good in print. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's just a good dude. What does he do well?
Speaker 2: What do you love most about Marvin? H this is
Speaker 2: fun having him here? Yeah, well it's it's like when
Speaker 2: I asked Marvin and what what was his marital advice
Speaker 2: for people? And he goes, I don't know, I got nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got nothing marital advice that you want to pass on.
Speaker 2: I don't got anything.
Speaker 9: And I'm okay with being a good dude, Like, oh,
Speaker 9: what does Marvin do well? He's a good dude. I
Speaker 9: could care less if Oh Martin's a good board ops.
Speaker 9: So yeah, Mary's a good dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're good to say that you're a good dude.
Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about running the equipment, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was thinking of a good dude on that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm checking. Sorry, the Yukon magazine story.
Speaker 5: Is it a feature story or a cover story?
Speaker 2: Do we know that yet?
Speaker 5: Because I look at past the past covers. You know,
Speaker 5: gino Oriama, they've got like world leaders on their cover.
Speaker 5: Some woman there, former professor, cured a disease and she made.
Speaker 2: The coverry Rebecca Lobo's probably been on the cover absolutely better.
Speaker 3: Maybe an upper right hand corner mentioned or you know
Speaker 3: how sometimes they do.
Speaker 2: The uh, the main article and then you know also this.
Speaker 5: Last cover was a dog. It was an actual husky dog.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, not a person. All right, we will
Speaker 2: let everybody know. We'll actually put the magazine on the
Speaker 2: website and you'll be able to read along. Maybe we
Speaker 2: get an advanced copy in here. Mark Uh, John on
Speaker 2: a yacht, John on a yacht is back? Hi?
Speaker 8: John man? How are you sorry?
Speaker 2: Where are we? John?
Speaker 8: We're in Saint Thomas Ue words round speak.
Speaker 2: Oh righty. I love the bb I.
Speaker 8: It's the aw It's heaven on Earth. I raised my
Speaker 8: boys there. It's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, so what do you have for me? Well?
Speaker 8: First off, I heard what Chritzy said when I hung
Speaker 8: up last time. I was not high Poalutan at all.
Speaker 8: I was simply, you know, describe me at the point
Speaker 8: where I was. I'm just the captain of the yacht.
Speaker 8: I don't own it. I get to enjoy it as
Speaker 8: much as I can.
Speaker 2: But yeah, called you out there, John, I was just jealous.
Speaker 6: And now you're in Saint Thomas or another lovely destination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. One to ask him where he was,
Speaker 2: Todd Now, he did say he was on a yawn.
Speaker 2: So what's your question, John?
Speaker 8: The question is would I think about ten or twelve
Speaker 8: potential coaching vacancies next year? Can you see Jeffrey Laurie
Speaker 8: going to the Super Bowl hanging out with the owner saying,
Speaker 8: you know what a lot of these guys have interest
Speaker 8: in just to say Bill and I don't want to
Speaker 8: be stuck next year trying to figure out if I
Speaker 8: got to hire Jim Moore Junior or some other guy.
Speaker 8: Can you see Lauri coming back from the Super Bowl saying,
Speaker 8: I'm not going to risk losing bella check next year.
Speaker 8: I'm going to pull it now.
Speaker 2: I think that they back channeled, and I think they
Speaker 2: were looking at maybe bringing in Bill to replace Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, they decided they were going to stay
Speaker 2: with him, even though they know they got rid of coordinators.
Speaker 2: After they lost coordinators going to the Super Bowl, I
Speaker 2: would have thought that they would have pulled the plug. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 3: An early what we learned, well, even captains of mega
Speaker 3: yachts get colds.
Speaker 2: Yeah I wouldn't. I wasn't going to say that John
Speaker 2: on the yacht, don't you blow your nose? But living
Speaker 2: that yacht life? Whoa, now, let's go. What are you
Speaker 2: shipping