Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2: On this Tuesday, it'll be busy Steve Levy on loan
Speaker 2: from the mother Ship ESPN NHL play by play, a
Speaker 2: commentator also host as well. Reggie Miller was on the
Speaker 2: call for Victor Wembin Yama. And you know when they
Speaker 2: start throwing around names like Shaq, Wilt, Chamberlain, David Robinson,
Speaker 2: you've done something really well. Wemby joins David Robinson as
Speaker 2: the only Spurs player with a forty twenty playoff game.
Speaker 2: He's also the first player since Wilt to have at
Speaker 2: least forty to twenty in his Conference Finals debut. He's
Speaker 2: also the youngest player in NBA history with at least
Speaker 2: forty to twenty in a playoff game, and he's just
Speaker 2: getting started at age twenty two. Don't lose sight of
Speaker 2: Dylan Harper, Ron Harper's son. He had twenty four points,
Speaker 2: eleven rebounds, and seven steals. Last time we had a
Speaker 2: performance like that, Larry Bird did that back in the
Speaker 2: mid eighties in a playoff game for the Celtics. And
Speaker 2: I brought this up first hour, but we should be
Speaker 2: reminding you again of this the youngest starting lineup in
Speaker 2: NBA Conference Finals history. Harper's twenty, Castle's twenty one, Vassals
Speaker 2: twenty five, Champagny is twenty four, and Wenby is twenty two,
Speaker 2: so their average age is twenty two years, two hundred
Speaker 2: and forty six days. The average age of Michigan's title
Speaker 2: team this year was twenty one and a half years.
Speaker 2: All Right, the eight seven to seven three DP show
Speaker 2: email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com Twitter handle a DP show Dylan.
Speaker 2: What kind of poll question do you have for me
Speaker 2: for the final hour of the program?
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, Well, we've got a couple we're gonna
Speaker 3: be talking some hockey, so I figured we may as
Speaker 3: well ask the people if Canada is at all rooting
Speaker 3: for the Canadians.
Speaker 4: M I'm gonna guess mixed bag there. Yes, is Buffalo cursed? Yes?
Speaker 4: Or no? The city of Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Oh. I don't know how you would clarify quantify being cursed.
Speaker 2: I mean, you lose games, you haven't won titles, that
Speaker 2: mean you're cursed. You're just unlucky.
Speaker 4: It's an intangible little bit. I think it's a feeling.
Speaker 2: Who else is cursed?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's a franchise that's cursed, like
Speaker 2: the Cubs were supposed to be cursed. But but what
Speaker 2: did they do to break the curse? They just won
Speaker 2: a championship. I don't think they did anything. There was
Speaker 2: no blood letting or sacrificial lamb or anything like that.
Speaker 4: The Red Sox the blood letting, Kurt showing sock.
Speaker 2: Kirch if you believe that it was actual blood ketchup letting, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Marvin having.
Speaker 6: The Buffalo Sabers won a Stanley Cup before they.
Speaker 2: Were in the Stanley Cup finals, I know against Dallas.
Speaker 6: Oh Bride's Maid, never the bride. Then yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: think they're cursed. They just haven't been good enough to
Speaker 6: win a championship.
Speaker 2: Well with the Buffalo Bills cursed and they lost four
Speaker 2: in a row.
Speaker 6: No, they just weren't good enough as the other teams.
Speaker 2: No curse, All right, well you're no fun.
Speaker 6: Oh I'm sorry. Yeah they are curse.
Speaker 4: You lose four Super Bowls in a row, that's you're
Speaker 4: pretty cursed.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you're pretty good to get to four
Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Yes, Paul, the Cubs did have.
Speaker 7: A legendary curse back in nineteen forty five, the last
Speaker 7: time they had made a World Series. There's a place
Speaker 7: called the Billy Goat Tavern. I know you've been there, Dan,
Speaker 7: It's great. The owner was William Ciannas and he had
Speaker 7: a a goat that was at Wrigley Field, and they
Speaker 7: kicked him and the goat out because as the goat
Speaker 7: was bothering the fans, he's supposed to put a curse
Speaker 7: on them. And they didn't go back to the World
Speaker 7: Series forever.
Speaker 2: Well, they made a mistake of letting the goat in
Speaker 2: to begin with.
Speaker 7: No, the goat was good luck, they thought, and some
Speaker 7: stafford kicked out the goat. Okay, they went on a
Speaker 7: cold streak after that.
Speaker 2: Now the Cavaliers are getting seven and a half to
Speaker 2: night against the nick On Wednesday, the Spurs they are
Speaker 2: getting six and a half against Oka. See more thought
Speaker 2: provoking radio coming up to bring in. Steve Levy handled
Speaker 2: the studio hosting duties last night with Messia and Kevin
Speaker 2: Weeks and leaves his back on the program. Who should
Speaker 2: have we been rooting for last night?
Speaker 8: So me personally, I have a soft spot for Buffalo
Speaker 8: in my heart. Going to Suni oswego Upstate New York,
Speaker 8: all my buddies are Buffalo guys, and it's just it's
Speaker 8: just a great sports market. I think it surprises people
Speaker 8: the Buffalo Sabers for the lack of success. They're always
Speaker 8: like top two in local TV ratings for their hockey team.
Speaker 8: And even when the Bills weren't good, dan when they
Speaker 8: were five hundred, like the old Rich Stadium was still
Speaker 8: filled every single every single game. I just feel so
Speaker 8: badly for those people. Look, Montreal hasn't won in forever either.
Speaker 8: It's great to have new Blood Original six. Everybody knows
Speaker 8: the logo, but there's a part of it was really
Speaker 8: rooting for Buffalo and they were the superior team last night.
Speaker 9: They deserved a better feit.
Speaker 2: Do you think Canada is rooting from Montreal.
Speaker 9: No, it's not like that in that country.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 8: I can't explain it. The Oilers make the Cup, you know, final,
Speaker 8: two years in a row. Everybody in the East can't
Speaker 8: stand them. And when Vancouver got in against Boston, Montreal
Speaker 8: and Toronto hate them like they are not a United
Speaker 8: country when it comes to hockey. But the province of Quebec,
Speaker 8: the scene outside the arena there when they play is
Speaker 8: like no other in the NHL, and to be you know,
Speaker 8: the last couple of years got to go to Edmontony
Speaker 8: with Messia, which is pretty cool walking around. And if
Speaker 8: Montreal could get back to the final, going there with
Speaker 8: PK would be pretty neat. And so you know, I'm
Speaker 8: about the experience, Dan, I really root for the cities
Speaker 8: in which mess PK and I will have the best time.
Speaker 2: That's how I of course you did. Yeah, Well, how
Speaker 2: good is Carolina?
Speaker 9: They're really good.
Speaker 8: They're an interesting sort of odd team, Dan, Like, you know,
Speaker 8: they're the best team in the East. They were in
Speaker 8: the regular season and people want to talk about the
Speaker 8: easiest path they've had, you know, Ottawa and Philadelphia and
Speaker 8: the sweeps. Well they earned it. That's the idea, right,
Speaker 8: That's how it's supposed to be. The regular season should matter.
Speaker 8: You're the best team in the East, you get the
Speaker 8: easiest path to the Cup if you will, and so
Speaker 8: but they don't have This is really odd. Like they're
Speaker 8: a great team that they're a great collection of talent.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure they have any Hall of Famers on
Speaker 8: the team. I'm not sure they have any superstars on
Speaker 8: the team. And the other teams remaining. You could make
Speaker 8: the art the three other teams remaining all sort of
Speaker 8: do you know, so it's odd, but collectively they are
Speaker 8: a great team. Rod Brindamore is a great coach, and
Speaker 8: in a league where home ice advantage is virtually meaningless. Uh,
Speaker 8: I think Carolina has a real home mis advantage.
Speaker 2: But then you have the ABS as well, and the
Speaker 2: scoring outburst that they've had compare. I know we're jumping ahead,
Speaker 2: but the ABS to Carolina very chalky.
Speaker 8: You know, the two of the two top seeds there,
Speaker 8: and that's those are the easy choices to pick, and
Speaker 8: that would be a that would be a fascinating series. Look,
Speaker 8: I'm not sold on on Colorado's goaltending. They've they've flipped
Speaker 8: looped back and forth much like Buffalo did. And it's
Speaker 8: really you know, Messier reminds us this all the time,
Speaker 8: Like to this point, all the games, all the action.
Speaker 9: They're only halfway there. They're halfway.
Speaker 8: You know, you still gotta win two more series, and
Speaker 8: so you know, Jared Bednor has some decisions to make.
Speaker 8: And Wedgewood and Blackwood, we make fun of the last
Speaker 8: names and everything, the similarities there, but I'm not sure
Speaker 8: they know and and maybe they can ride both guys,
Speaker 8: but we'll have to see about that. So but that
Speaker 8: has to be concerned. And and Cale McCart doesn't look
Speaker 8: to be himself Dan and that, you know, that's probably
Speaker 8: the biggest fact. They're all world bordering on all time defenseman.
Speaker 8: When his career has done, I mean, he's he's got
Speaker 8: all the credentials to this point. If he has a
Speaker 8: long career, he'll be one of the all time greats
Speaker 8: in my opinion. But he didn't look right against Minnesota
Speaker 8: that I've had a lot of time off here. He
Speaker 8: was still okay, he was still pretty good, but he
Speaker 8: wasn't dynamic cal mccarr who can really take over a
Speaker 8: game by himself. So I think the point is Colorado
Speaker 8: has some questions, and I don't really have any questions
Speaker 8: about Carolina. You know, Freddie Anderson is the goaltender. When
Speaker 8: he's been available, he's always been really, really good, and
Speaker 8: he's good right now.
Speaker 2: Talking to Steve Levy. ESPN's coverage of the Western Conference
Speaker 2: Finals starts Wednesday, seven thirty eastern with leaves Mark Messier
Speaker 2: PK subin Game one at eight eastern. Does Messia tell
Speaker 2: stories when you guys aren't on the air.
Speaker 9: He's really good off the air too. Yeah, we have
Speaker 9: a good time.
Speaker 8: He's such a fascinating guy. Like the way he breaks down.
Speaker 8: It's like, it's not TV sexy. It's not sexy in
Speaker 8: our business right because it's the neutral zone face off,
Speaker 8: which you can't highlight. But in Messier's mind, that's what
Speaker 8: wins hockey games. It's the first pass out of the zone,
Speaker 8: the little things. It's not the flash and dash. And
Speaker 8: so Mark always pays such great attention to the detail
Speaker 8: and the stuff inside the dressing room to embrace the
Speaker 8: pressure buffalo. For example, last night, you know, they really
Speaker 8: struggled at home, so they tried to flip it. They
Speaker 8: stayed in a hotel at home, which a lot of
Speaker 8: teams don't do right early on in the playoffs, maybe
Speaker 8: the final. And mess told the story that in ninety
Speaker 8: four Mike Keenan offered the Rangers the same exact thing,
Speaker 8: and when they came back from Vancouver for Game seven,
Speaker 8: and mess said, no, we want to be home. We
Speaker 8: want to get away from the rink. He said, as
Speaker 8: a group, he decided. I'm sure that was Messier deciding.
Speaker 9: For the group.
Speaker 8: When you're the greatest living captain with sports. You get
Speaker 8: to make those decisions, and so that's his thing. Embrace
Speaker 8: the moment. If you're afraid to speak about it, you
Speaker 8: probably can't win it too so but it's cool to
Speaker 8: be around. I do pitch myself every once in a while,
Speaker 8: you know, I get a random text at one am
Speaker 8: and you're watching the Calgary power play here, and I'm like,
Speaker 8: and I.
Speaker 9: Want to call my buddies. You know, Mark Messi is.
Speaker 8: Asking me if I'm watching the Flames power play, you know,
Speaker 8: in November at one am.
Speaker 9: So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Better Captain Messi a or Derek Jeter.
Speaker 8: Listen, only one and more C on their sweater or
Speaker 8: jersey if you mess to me again. Arguably the greatest
Speaker 8: captain in all of sports. I gotta think he's the
Speaker 8: greatest captain in hockey. I'm gonna go messy. I'm sure
Speaker 8: Gina did a great job too. But baseball and hockey
Speaker 8: captain c seem to be very different. You don't see
Speaker 8: a lot of captain type activities in baseball. In hockey,
Speaker 8: it's it's a massive deal, as you know, especially you
Speaker 8: know in a place like New York. But he was
Speaker 8: the captain everywhere. He was the captain in Edmund Today
Speaker 8: after Gretz left see for the captain of Vancouver for
Speaker 8: a short stint too.
Speaker 2: The face of the NHL, like we're talking about Victor
Speaker 2: Weinbnyama at age twenty two, is becoming the face of
Speaker 2: the NBA hockey has periodically had faces, nobody quite like Gratz.
Speaker 2: But who is the face of the NHL like.
Speaker 8: Today or you want to see in like five years
Speaker 8: from now, like because today I think it's probably still
Speaker 8: Sidney crossbying Alex Ovechkin, But in five years from now,
Speaker 8: maybe three, Macklin Celebrini what he's done in San Jose.
Speaker 8: So he's over there at the at the Worlds for
Speaker 8: Canada and he's wearing the captain C and they added
Speaker 8: Sidney Crosby later, and you know, celebrity still got that
Speaker 8: on a sweater. So I think it's Macklin Celabrini. It's
Speaker 8: been great for the league, Dan, what he's done. He's
Speaker 8: put San Jose back on the map kind of thing.
Speaker 8: The Sharks really exciting, really fun to watch. And back
Speaker 8: in the day when you and I were growing up, Dan,
Speaker 8: the Shark tank was the place to be like that
Speaker 8: might have been the loudest arena in the NHL.
Speaker 2: Mitch Marner's doing some fun things.
Speaker 8: Yeah, don't say it too loud because they might hear
Speaker 8: you in Toronto, and they are still very sensitive about
Speaker 8: what's going on there.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: They let him get away, and I had a guy
Speaker 8: just blasting me on the radio up there. He counted
Speaker 8: it was interesting, he said in the previous Again, they've
Speaker 8: got a lot of categories right to make their argument
Speaker 8: in the last twenty five games of Mitch Marner's Leaf's career.
Speaker 8: But he's only counting games five, six, and seven in
Speaker 8: the playoffs Dan and only goals, not points, all right,
Speaker 8: So there's a lot there. And he had just won
Speaker 8: in the twenty five games, and of course now you know,
Speaker 8: if Vegas does anything, he could win the con Smith
Speaker 8: as a playoff MVP. Look, he didn't have the supporting cast.
Speaker 8: Vegas has supported him correctly, but definitely they heat or
Speaker 8: the media heat or public heat. Playing being a local
Speaker 8: boy in Toronto as playing supposed to play in Las
Speaker 8: Vegas is very different, despite that it's one hundred and
Speaker 8: one degrees in Vegas.
Speaker 9: Different.
Speaker 2: If Mark Messier and PK suban fought, who do you
Speaker 2: have today?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd be really close two days ago. It's Messia
Speaker 8: for sure, because that PK will take her shirt off
Speaker 8: for no reason. By the way, he is very happy
Speaker 8: to do that. And PK, you know, every day is
Speaker 8: leg day and he's all bumped up all the time
Speaker 8: and tells you like the first I'll be hey, PK,
Speaker 8: how you do it?
Speaker 9: He goes, I worked out today. I didn't ask you.
Speaker 8: If you worked out today. You know, Uh, PK's in
Speaker 8: tremendous shape. But mess gives you that stare. He crinkles
Speaker 8: up the far ahead, you know, and the eyebrows. And
Speaker 8: I wouldn't want to mess with Mark Messier.
Speaker 2: No, it feels it's weird how guys get labeled underrated,
Speaker 2: and maybe we're we're overrated by underrating people. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I always thought Kareem was underrated. You know,
Speaker 2: there's certain athletes that they did things. I don't think
Speaker 2: we really understood the context of what they did. And
Speaker 2: I always thought Messier was kind of in Wayne Gretzky's shadow.
Speaker 2: I mean, he played on one of the greatest teams
Speaker 2: of all time. I'd love for you to compare Edmonton
Speaker 2: when they had that dynasty to the Islanders dynasty.
Speaker 8: Better team brought that up first. A Mess is so
Speaker 8: modest when it comes to Gretz. He defers to Wayne
Speaker 8: all the time. And again, Mess is a top five
Speaker 8: all time player. I think I think he's still third
Speaker 8: in points and only because Yagler.
Speaker 9: Played till he was fifty or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, those Oiler teams against the Island team. So my
Speaker 8: four years in high school were the Islanders four Cup team.
Speaker 8: Of course I was the only Ranger fan in high school,
Speaker 8: but that's a different story. That was an awful existence.
Speaker 8: The Islander teams were the best teams I ever saw
Speaker 8: because they could do everything. They could score at will,
Speaker 8: and they could beat the crap out of it two
Speaker 8: and still had the best clutch goalie of all time
Speaker 8: for my money, in Billy Smith. And of course, the
Speaker 8: Islander dynasty was right before the Oilers dynasty. And it's
Speaker 8: a famous story that Mess tells and Gretz too. The
Speaker 8: first year, that last year before the Oilers won, they
Speaker 8: lost to the Islanders and the Oilers are walking out
Speaker 8: of Nashall Coliseum and they have to pass by the
Speaker 8: Islanders dressing room and the Islanders just won the Cup,
Speaker 8: and they saw the mess that the Islanders were physically,
Speaker 8: the pain, the blood, the bones, I mean that kind
Speaker 8: of stuff. And the Oilers, to a man say to
Speaker 8: this day that they walked by and saw the cost
Speaker 8: what it really takes physically and mentally to win, and
Speaker 8: that that lesson sort of stayed with them and that
Speaker 8: helped propel them to their run another following season.
Speaker 2: Good stuff leaves. Thanks for joining us as always.
Speaker 9: Happy belated birthday brother.
Speaker 2: Thank you your hair looks eight two.
Speaker 9: You know it's different color than it used to be.
Speaker 2: Dan, It's still there though you have it. Though it's
Speaker 2: okay to changer's colors. I'll take it if it stays
Speaker 2: there instead of not having any. But thanks you.
Speaker 9: No fringe, whatever it is, you got it. Thanks pleading.
Speaker 2: That's Steve Levy of the mother Ship and coming up
Speaker 2: on Wednesday night at seven point thirty eastern, it'll be
Speaker 2: coverage to the Western Conference Finals Steve, Mark Messier and
Speaker 2: PK subin Game one follows at eight eastern. Reggie Miller
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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller on the call last night's opening game of
Speaker 2: the Western Conference Finals, and he was there with Mike Trico,
Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford. Game two tomorrow night, tip off eight thirty
Speaker 2: Eastern on NBC and Peacock. I'm full of hyperbole this morning,
Speaker 2: reg Victor Wembenyama is the best player in the NBA.
Speaker 9: You probably would be correct.
Speaker 5: Look, we are in the final four of our league,
Speaker 5: the conference final, and this is the matchup everyone's been
Speaker 5: wanting to see. You know, one versus two to sixty
Speaker 5: two plus win teams, all the hype that came into this,
Speaker 5: the Spurs being successful versus the defending champs all season
Speaker 5: winning four or five. You've got the MVP SGA accepting
Speaker 5: his second trophy. You've got the unanimous Defensive Player of
Speaker 5: the Year Victor wimbin Yama. So you know, two planets
Speaker 5: colliding towards one another, and you saw an epic game one.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do we not overreact to this? And you
Speaker 2: can look at it from both ways that OKAC struggled
Speaker 2: against San Antonio during the regular season, Wemby Welsh relishes
Speaker 2: this matchup with chet SGA didn't play well. They you know,
Speaker 2: Caruso played great, and you know so in all for not,
Speaker 2: Dylan Harper appears to be on the verge of being
Speaker 2: something as well. So talk me back down. You know,
Speaker 2: if I'm overreacting to what I saw in game one
Speaker 2: now doesn't mean okay, see can't win the next four.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, from what I've seen in what I
Speaker 2: saw last night, this is going to be obviously entertaining,
Speaker 2: maybe seven game series.
Speaker 5: I'll start from the thunder standpoint. It's one game and
Speaker 5: it's game one. Let's just flash back to last year's finals.
Speaker 5: Tyrese Halibert hit a shot at the buzzer in Game one,
Speaker 5: Pacers golb won nothing. The Thunder ended up winning that
Speaker 5: series in seven. So you can't get too high too low.
Speaker 5: You mentioned some of the highlights. Yes, SGA struggles. He
Speaker 5: did have eighteen in the fourth, but a lot of
Speaker 5: those came from the free throw line. He was facing
Speaker 5: a wall, a wall of black jerseys everywhere he went.
Speaker 9: He struggled.
Speaker 5: I think the only bright spot offensively for the Thunder
Speaker 5: was Alex Caruso, a guy who comes off the benchie
Speaker 5: at thirty points and eight threes. But the Thunder they
Speaker 5: missed a lot of wide open shots, a lot of
Speaker 5: wide open threes, and that's kind of been on point
Speaker 5: of why they've been unsuccessful versus the Spurs this year
Speaker 5: has been they haven't been great from that three point line,
Speaker 5: which is one of their strengths. They can correct that. Yes,
Speaker 5: Game two could be a different story if Fga gets
Speaker 5: hot and if some of those guys are making threes,
Speaker 5: like Aaron Wiggins came off the bench and missed three
Speaker 5: wide open threes. So they've got to be more efficient
Speaker 5: in terms of shooting the basketball when they're gonna double
Speaker 5: the triple team SGA and take.
Speaker 9: The ball out of his hands.
Speaker 5: For the San Antonio side, we came in and did
Speaker 5: what we were supposed to do. We were shorthanded without
Speaker 5: the Aaron Fox, our point guard who's probably argued the
Speaker 5: second most important player on the team, and Dylan Harper
Speaker 5: a rookie. A rookie inserted into the starting lineup and
Speaker 5: was as cool as the other side of the pillow.
Speaker 5: He was unbelievable in moments down the stretch his defense.
Speaker 5: If he was anticipating, I said, he looked like Dion Sanders,
Speaker 5: you know, free safety And on a couple of those steals,
Speaker 5: he was superb. And of course the highlight of the night.
Speaker 5: When I talk about this time of year, you're picking
Speaker 5: up casual fans now because you're this close to getting
Speaker 5: to the NBA Finals. So now your casual fans are saying,
Speaker 5: you know, I've heard of this victor win.
Speaker 9: Binyama.
Speaker 5: I've seen a game or two, but now you got
Speaker 5: a chance to see a full forty eight minute game
Speaker 5: plus because it was a double overtime game, and to
Speaker 5: see how special you and I have talked about this,
Speaker 5: and I've said to you, every time you watch a
Speaker 5: game of his, you're going to see something that you've
Speaker 5: never seen before. And in transition, a seven foot four
Speaker 5: dude down three, down three takes a thirty footer to
Speaker 5: tie the ballgame. It's just unbelievable watching him play.
Speaker 2: But I wonder what we would be saying if he
Speaker 2: missed that shot and they lost, because when he pulled up,
Speaker 2: I went, oh my god, and then you make it.
Speaker 2: It's one of those oh my god, oh oh okay.
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't make it, then we're gonna be
Speaker 2: I think questioning, Uh well, I don't want to go
Speaker 2: too deep question.
Speaker 5: I thought it was a It was a good look
Speaker 5: at that particular time, at that moment of the game.
Speaker 5: You're down three, closing moments of overtime, and you step
Speaker 5: right into it in flow.
Speaker 9: It wasn't forced. Was it deep?
Speaker 5: Yes, but we've seen him make deep threes before. I
Speaker 5: just love that he didn't blink, he didn't think about it.
Speaker 5: It was catch shoot highball game.
Speaker 2: Why don't they put Pomegren on him? Can check play him?
Speaker 2: Straight up?
Speaker 9: Thank you? Theodore.
Speaker 5: At some point in this series it's going to have
Speaker 5: to be them too. I applaud what Caruso is doing.
Speaker 5: I applaud j Dub, and that's how they've someone had
Speaker 5: success with him the last couple of years, not this season,
Speaker 5: but the last couple of years, putting a smaller defender
Speaker 5: underneath him. But I think during the middle of the game,
Speaker 5: and Jamal kind of mentioned this, it's like he's got
Speaker 5: to remember he is seven to four, right, So when
Speaker 5: you've got Caruso, you've got Jadub guarding, you just don't hide.
Speaker 5: No one else in that building can go get that
Speaker 5: other than maybe Chet. And when we saw in that
Speaker 5: one play, I believe it was the end of the
Speaker 5: first overtime weak side help who was one of the
Speaker 5: best week side help defenders in our game, Chet home Grim.
Speaker 5: I think at some point during this series there's gonna
Speaker 5: have to be more time of its Chet versus Wimby,
Speaker 5: and that's what we're here to see because these two
Speaker 5: have a history dating back to AAU seventeen and under
Speaker 5: basketball games USA versus France, and I want to see it.
Speaker 5: Chat is going to have to take take and accept
Speaker 5: the challenge of playing longer minutes, not weak side help
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to take the onus of playing in
Speaker 5: winby one on one.
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller on the call last night. Coming
Speaker 2: up Wednesday, it'll be game two in this series. The
Speaker 2: tip off will be eight thirty Eastern on NBC and
Speaker 2: Peacock Cavaliers Knicks tonight. Cavaliers come rolling in after a
Speaker 2: you know, slugfest with Detroit. Nicks had been waiting, Knicks
Speaker 2: getting healthier home court advantage, and this kind of feels
Speaker 2: like the Knicks know what the feeling is like because
Speaker 2: last year, all you got to do is get by
Speaker 2: Indiana and we're gone to the finals. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 2: what is what does New York do or have to
Speaker 2: remember going into this series tonight?
Speaker 5: I think watching Game one last night of that Spurs
Speaker 5: versus Thunder. Remember the Thunder had been off nine days
Speaker 5: leading up into Game one, whereas the spur were coming
Speaker 5: off that six game very physical series versus Minnesota. So
Speaker 5: if you're in New York number one, you can't take
Speaker 5: Cleveland for granted.
Speaker 9: This is the whole rest versus Rust.
Speaker 5: And you've got to come out the start of the
Speaker 5: game because I felt the Thunder kind of eased into
Speaker 5: the game and san Antonio took control of Game one.
Speaker 5: Even though the Thunder came back, they tied it and
Speaker 5: they took the lead. I never felt that san Antonio
Speaker 5: was ever out of it. They had control of the
Speaker 5: game for forty eight plus minutes double overtime. That the
Speaker 5: Knicks cannot ease into the game because the Calves are
Speaker 5: coming off two grueling game sevens, one versus Toronto and
Speaker 5: one versus Detroit. And the Calves think about this, They've
Speaker 5: gone against two of the best defending teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 9: Toronto great defending team, and we know.
Speaker 5: About Detroit, one of the top defending teams, and beat them.
Speaker 5: So they cannot take the Calves for granted, the Calves
Speaker 5: have some great weapons.
Speaker 9: They have size and Jared Allen, Evan Mobley.
Speaker 5: And I'm telling you this, Donovan Mitchell, he has made
Speaker 5: for big moments. I know he hasn't proved or shown
Speaker 5: it in the playoffs, but this guy is built for
Speaker 5: big moments.
Speaker 9: And James Harden has to be more consistent.
Speaker 5: If he's consistent in the series, this could be a
Speaker 5: long series for the Knicks. But having said all that,
Speaker 5: I think the Knicks are destined. They are destined to
Speaker 5: make it to the finals. Just after that Game three,
Speaker 5: a big win in Atlanta. This has been, along with
Speaker 5: the Thunder, the best team and their defense and the
Speaker 5: way they're playing through cap.
Speaker 9: I just think the Knicks are destined right now.
Speaker 2: And it's strange when you're standing next to Mitchell or
Speaker 2: Brunson and you realize that they're not taller than you.
Speaker 2: I'm talking me like, they're not tall guys, but they're
Speaker 2: so good. And I'd really love to see Brunson against
Speaker 2: Wemby in a NBA finals because he does all of
Speaker 2: his damage sort of in that area, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you know you got Wemby lurking there, which
Speaker 2: which would be great. But those guys' ability that that's
Speaker 2: where you tell somebody watch those guys, watch Brunson and
Speaker 2: tell me how he does what he does, because I
Speaker 2: don't think he's particularly fast, good handle, quick, nice shot,
Speaker 2: but he's not a big guy, but he's somehow. This
Speaker 2: is the amazing part of basketball where you watch a
Speaker 2: guy and you go, I don't know how he does it,
Speaker 2: and he's in that category theater.
Speaker 5: I'm going to tell you how he does it. He
Speaker 5: is the master I'll put it like this. He is
Speaker 5: the Kobe Bryant of point guards and a lie. I
Speaker 5: say that his fundamentals and footwork are superb, superb. He
Speaker 5: will he Understan's angles and when he uses his footwork
Speaker 5: when he does get into the paint, he keeps the
Speaker 5: defense off balance.
Speaker 9: He is great in the mid range.
Speaker 5: He can kill you from three point and he's a
Speaker 5: pretty honorable passer as well. So his footwork that's what
Speaker 5: makes him so efficient. And Donovan Mitchell has size. He's
Speaker 5: bigger than Jalen Brunson, so that's why he can finish
Speaker 5: amongst the bigs when he gets into the paint. He
Speaker 5: also is a great three point shooter. He's been in
Speaker 5: the three point competition in the last four or five years,
Speaker 5: so you know he's very capable of getting hot from downtown.
Speaker 5: This is why this is going to be a fun matchup. Again,
Speaker 5: I still have the Knicks, but they better not take
Speaker 5: the Calves for granted.
Speaker 9: That's all I'm gonna say. You cannot take this team
Speaker 9: for granted.
Speaker 2: If he ran the Lakers, at what point you have
Speaker 2: to engage with Lebron to figure out what direction are
Speaker 2: we going? Because you want to be respectful, but you
Speaker 2: also you're running a business here. This isn't about being friends.
Speaker 2: It's about you've got a decision. We got a decision.
Speaker 2: When can you ask for an answer from Lebron.
Speaker 5: I think they've had probably preliminary conversations. I'm sure Rich
Speaker 5: falls had conversations with Rob Poink and Lebron. I think
Speaker 5: these conversations have been ongoing. I think they were going
Speaker 5: on during the season. Look, I think Lebron knows they
Speaker 5: are not going to build this next year's roster around him.
Speaker 5: They're gonna build around Luca and they're gonna figure out, Look,
Speaker 5: are we going to open up the bag and give
Speaker 5: it to ar Austin Reeves?
Speaker 9: And I think Lebron understands that. But guess what, Lebron has.
Speaker 5: Options too, Right, he doesn't have to stay with the
Speaker 5: Lakers if he wants to be sure, great, but he
Speaker 5: will have other suitors. Will it be what he the
Speaker 5: number he's expecting.
Speaker 9: I don't know, but the Lakers are going to build the.
Speaker 5: Raw around Luca, and trusts me, they've had conversations with
Speaker 5: Lebron personally, and I'm sure with Rich Paul. Again, I'm
Speaker 5: not privy to any of this, but you just assume
Speaker 5: that they've had an open dialogue about what's gonna happen
Speaker 5: going forward.
Speaker 2: I mentioned if I was the Steelers, I would have
Speaker 2: moved on from Aaron Rodgers because at some point I
Speaker 2: have to figure out what's the next five years or
Speaker 2: seven years at that position, not the next year. And
Speaker 2: they're over unders eight and a half wins, so he
Speaker 2: didn't really move the needle here. And with Lebron, I
Speaker 2: can get him for another year and it might be
Speaker 2: a twenty one seven and seven season, which is nice.
Speaker 2: But you're in the West. The Spurs and Oksee are great.
Speaker 2: They're better than you, and I just wonder I would
Speaker 2: move on from Lebron because I have to start to
Speaker 2: figure out what does this team look like for the
Speaker 2: next five years? And I might not be a popular opinion,
Speaker 2: but I just see where the Steelers have been kicking
Speaker 2: this can down the road. Redge for a while now,
Speaker 2: still trying to find Ben Roethlisberger and the Lakers with
Speaker 2: Lebron as great as he is, and even as he
Speaker 2: was in the postseason, what is our future here? You
Speaker 2: got Luca Austin Reeves bringing him back. You don't want
Speaker 2: you your center position. You got to figure that out
Speaker 2: as well. Some depth here. So would you move on
Speaker 2: from Lebron any part of you?
Speaker 5: It's difficult because you just mentioned a few numbers twenty one,
Speaker 5: seven and seven.
Speaker 9: Where else are you going to get that from?
Speaker 5: And again, yeah, maybe you could trade for someone, or
Speaker 5: you could use that salary and go out and acquire someone.
Speaker 5: I think if you're the Steelers, you bring back Aaron
Speaker 5: Rodgers because you want the quarterbacks behind him to see, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is how we prepare.
Speaker 9: In the film room, in the weight room.
Speaker 5: And I think if you're the Lakers, you see Lebron,
Speaker 5: how he's taking care of his body for twenty plus years,
Speaker 5: how he approaches the game, his mindset.
Speaker 9: Those things trinkle down to the rest of the team.
Speaker 5: And when your best player is Luca and he's been
Speaker 5: injury riddled over the last couple of seasons, maybe having
Speaker 5: Lebron and how he takes care of his body and
Speaker 5: his regiment, maybe that can help your best player. I
Speaker 5: think those will be some of the things that they
Speaker 5: think about going forward in terms of Lebron.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you your goal is not to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: That's Steelers. I mean you want to win. You know,
Speaker 2: That's the thing. Does Aaron Rodgers, you know, help bigger
Speaker 2: picture of winning a super Bowl? And probably not. He's
Speaker 2: obviously first Battle Hall of Famer. You're not winning a title.
Speaker 2: I don't think with this Laker lineup going into next season,
Speaker 2: even if everybody's healthy, you're gonna make the playoffs and
Speaker 2: maybe you bow out in the second round. Is that
Speaker 2: mission accomplished?
Speaker 9: Okay? So then who are you gonna Are you gonna
Speaker 9: go out and get Giannis?
Speaker 5: Well, who are you gonna get that is gonna give
Speaker 5: you twenty one, seven and seven?
Speaker 9: And hell, can you win a championship a year from now? Okay?
Speaker 2: But I have to think about the next five years.
Speaker 2: You're only thinking about next year with Lebron. And while
Speaker 2: I said he's gonna give me those numbers, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have the same result next year. Is that good enough
Speaker 2: for the Lakers?
Speaker 5: Well, if Lebron's not the team and you don't bring
Speaker 5: in a five star recruit or acquire that type of
Speaker 5: free agent, you're gonna be in the same boat. Whereas
Speaker 5: you could have had a bird in the hand at
Speaker 5: twenty one, seven and seven, and before Luca got hurt,
Speaker 5: and before ar.
Speaker 9: Got hurt in that game here in Okac.
Speaker 5: Wasn't the Lakers one of the hottest teams down the
Speaker 5: stretch heading into the playoffs with those three guys.
Speaker 2: They're not better than the Spurs are. Okay, see they're.
Speaker 9: Not, but they were one of the they were one
Speaker 9: of the top teams. I know.
Speaker 2: But is that good enough for the Lakers? They're about
Speaker 2: winning championships?
Speaker 9: Then you're then you need to go out and get
Speaker 9: like SDA.
Speaker 2: You need to go get Wimby.
Speaker 9: I mean, you need to go get one of the
Speaker 9: whole time.
Speaker 2: I know there's no I know there's no one to
Speaker 2: get that's going to replace Lebron. But I can spend
Speaker 2: that sixty million dollars elsewhere, and I got to build.
Speaker 2: I got to fill out a roster. Okac is deep,
Speaker 2: san Antonio is deep. The Lakers are not deep. And
Speaker 2: that that's maybe it's setting yourself up for a year
Speaker 2: from now or two years, never mind, we can talk
Speaker 2: about they.
Speaker 9: Have every right to do that.
Speaker 5: But just just so you know, Lebron has options to
Speaker 5: you can go somewhere else too.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Rech. What, by the way, what are you
Speaker 2: doing in Okac today? What do you do on your
Speaker 2: day off? You're a Hall of Fame or your Reggie Miller?
Speaker 2: What are you going to be doing.
Speaker 5: I'm heading to the gym and get onto the peloton
Speaker 5: bike because the training never stops for me for my cycling,
Speaker 5: my other passion.
Speaker 9: So I'll go work out.
Speaker 5: And then I'm gonna go have a nice stake with
Speaker 5: our dear leader, Michael Schermco, Jamal Crawford, Zora Stevenson, Ashley Chamont.
Speaker 5: Were we are all going as a team dinner something
Speaker 5: that you and I would do.
Speaker 9: I would, I would take you seatan my dan ed
Speaker 9: to eat.
Speaker 5: That's what team does, team building bonding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't we go to dinner and.
Speaker 9: You pay?
Speaker 2: You never didn't pay, No way, no, no, no. You
Speaker 2: showed up in your Bentley.
Speaker 9: Remember dinner was paid for? Did you pay for it?
Speaker 9: Dinner paid for?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I think I said because you pulled
Speaker 2: up in a Bentley that you should Indiana.
Speaker 5: In Indiana, when you roll, you don't pay for any
Speaker 5: or you know that I was in an uber for anything.
Speaker 2: I was in an Uber and you were in a Bentley.
Speaker 9: Which I no longer have right now? So what go on?
Speaker 2: You sold the Bentley.
Speaker 9: It was nice. You know, how long ago that what
Speaker 9: you think I would? I'm hold out to that. How
Speaker 9: long ago was that?
Speaker 2: It's it's a Bentley?
Speaker 9: No time to move on? Got three kids, I got
Speaker 9: a minivan. I've gone from a Bentley to a mini van.
Speaker 2: Damn, damn, how the mighty have fallen?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 2: Thank you Red te Uh tell the boys? I said, hello,
Speaker 2: you got it.
Speaker 9: Appreciate your Theodore.
Speaker 2: And that's a Reggie Alowiicious Miller Junior the third. He'll
Speaker 2: be on the call tomorrow night. I already got the
Speaker 2: points spread. I got san Antonio getting six and a
Speaker 2: half against Okay, see glass golfer? Phone call? What we learn?
Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow? Right after this?
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Speaker 9: What we learn?
Speaker 2: What's in store tomorrow? This day in sports history? Final
Speaker 2: results of the Pole Question. Cavs and Nicks. A little
Speaker 2: bit of pressure for an encore performance after last night.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, let me see what you guys
Speaker 2: can do. In the East, as the Cavaliers are what's
Speaker 2: seven and a half point underdogs tonight in Game one?
Speaker 2: Final results of the Pole question Dylan.
Speaker 3: All right, Dan, we asked, is the rest of Canada
Speaker 3: at all rooting for the Canadians? Sixty one percent say no.
Speaker 3: And I actually got a reply that says, if you're
Speaker 3: Canadian outside of Quebec and you're rooting for Montreal, you
Speaker 3: should be forced to move to Quebec and lose your
Speaker 3: right to leave the province. That gives you some indication.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I agree. Yeah, you know, if I'm listening
Speaker 2: living in Calgary, Auto, I'm not ruining for Montreal just
Speaker 2: because we're saying, Hey, Canada hasn't had a Stanley Cup
Speaker 2: winner since nineteen ninety three. No, not at all.
Speaker 4: He entered in rivalry.
Speaker 2: Uh, this day in sports history, Paul, Yet one for me.
Speaker 7: I got a few for you, Dan, And this day
Speaker 7: in nineteen eighty four, your Edmonston Oilers won their first
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2: Was eighty four.
Speaker 7: Nineteen thirty five, the NFL adopted a league draft that
Speaker 7: started nineteen thirty six. And here's one little quiz here.
Speaker 7: Nineteen ten, Cy Young of the Cleveland Indians got win
Speaker 7: number five hundred. His career, he finished five hundred and
Speaker 7: eleven wins three hundred and fifteen losses as a pitcher.
Speaker 7: How many complete games did he have in his career?
Speaker 7: Who would like to take a shot? Cy Young? Complete games?
Speaker 2: So that's over eight hundred decisions right in his career.
Speaker 7: He had eight hundred and fifteen career starts.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to say five one hundred complete games?
Speaker 7: Anyone else?
Speaker 2: Dylan eight hundred, three thirty eight, six hundred.
Speaker 7: Dylan is the closest eight hundred and fifteen career starts.
Speaker 7: It's seven hundred and forty nine complete games.
Speaker 6: Us your name of a ward after was.
Speaker 9: He never won?
Speaker 7: Never want to say Young?
Speaker 2: Uh Jim in California, Hi Jim? What do you have
Speaker 2: for me today?
Speaker 11: Dan Patrick? First time caller, longtime listeners since the eighties
Speaker 11: of you. I just want to say that, you know,
Speaker 11: when we're talking about the piping in of the birds
Speaker 11: and things that I on golf, I just want to
Speaker 11: ask you the question, do you think that the when
Speaker 11: you buy a live album or CD or what have you,
Speaker 11: do you think that's piped in?
Speaker 2: Do I think they're adding music to a live album.
Speaker 11: Adding the crowd to a live album.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I never gave it that much thought.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big live album guy. I don't like
Speaker 2: hearing the audience. I don't like it when a musician
Speaker 2: turns it over to the audience to let them sing
Speaker 2: a song that I came to hear you sing. But
Speaker 2: I'm not a live album guy at all. Let's go
Speaker 2: around the room see if we learn anything on the program, Todd,
Speaker 2: I'll start with you. Did you learn anything? I learned
Speaker 2: a lot of things, one of which was the thunder
Speaker 2: wasted a great effort from Alex Caruso last night, allowing
Speaker 2: Wenby in the Spurs to grab a home court advantage.
Speaker 4: Dylan, you went to Harvard to look at art?
Speaker 2: Yeah, museum, the art museum at Harvard. Uh, Marvin, you
Speaker 2: think I'm no fun?
Speaker 9: Wait?
Speaker 2: When did I say that?
Speaker 6: I was talking about Buffalo just not being good instead
Speaker 6: of being cursed. You're like, mar yeah, fun. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: call me a criminal? That nice.
Speaker 2: You're not a criminal. You got off with whatever charges
Speaker 2: we're pending against the police couldn't hold me. Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us. Thanks for the phone calls, emails, tweets, be
Speaker 2: all around support. We'll do it again tomorrow for Fitzie, Marv, Dylan, Pauli,
Speaker 2: Yours Chrulie. Talk to you on Wednesday,