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Speaker 1: First of all, you know you want our ghosts, Broy,

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Speaker 1: you one the ones that man we came up watching

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Speaker 1: and want to be like dressed like you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, look like And man, we appreciate you coming

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Speaker 1: on the show and rocket with.

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Speaker 2: Long overdue, Long overdue definitely.

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Speaker 1: So last time we interviewed you, we asked you who

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Speaker 1: was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: And you said kJ.

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Speaker 1: But this time we're gonna ask you who's the first

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Speaker 1: person to ask you bus that you remember, it's like

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Speaker 1: I got him.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this ain't gonna be too modest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be. You gotta talk that.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't remember. It's been so many I

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Speaker 2: don't never you know what I mean. Because my thing

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Speaker 2: is it's supposed to be everybody. So when I when

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Speaker 2: I think back on it, it was pretty much everybody.

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Speaker 2: I know. I had my bad shooting nights, but it

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Speaker 2: won't too many you know guys that had something to

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Speaker 2: do with it, you know what I mean? I pretty much.

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Speaker 2: I mean Kobe was tough, you know, on me. You

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Speaker 2: had to come with everything with him. I think Stephan

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Speaker 2: Marlberry was, he was rough. Marcus Banks gave me problems,

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Speaker 2: big time problem. He gave me problems, but pretty much man,

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Speaker 2: everybody else, Oh, DJ gave me problems tomorrow Johnson, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, just using six' nine back up,

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Speaker 2: off you know WHAT i, mean and then contestant jump

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Speaker 2: up and then like he would literally let me go

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Speaker 2: by them and just throw that ship against the back,

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Speaker 2: boards you know WHAT i. Mean but just being, authentic,

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Speaker 2: MAN i, MEAN i didn't have too many, problems you,

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Speaker 2: know doing WHAT i want to do to. Guys so

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Speaker 2: it was a pluck of rough.

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Speaker 3: People, yo yo.

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Speaker 2: Yo we live on.

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Speaker 4: Location me and the blackest one had to come out To, Hampton.

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Speaker 4: Virginia you, know we come live on. Location were coming

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Speaker 4: for some legendary.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Today we had to come get our big, bro somebody

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Speaker 4: who we looked up. To we tried to be like

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Speaker 4: who we tried to play, like dress. Like he paid

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Speaker 4: the way for a lot of. Us top seventy Five

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Speaker 4: All Time Cultural Icon hall Of. Fame the, answer Mister

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Speaker 4: Allen iverson in the, building we appreciate you putting up on,

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Speaker 4: us big, Bro.

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Speaker 5: Love, Baby, HAMPTON.

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Speaker 1: VA i got an opportunity last night to go in

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Speaker 1: the house that you.

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Speaker 2: Built you, know What i'm.

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Speaker 1: SAYING i got a chance to see the football pick you,

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Speaker 1: know with the football team that one, stage to basketball

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Speaker 1: team that one stayed and just you, know just feel

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Speaker 1: the environment up in. There and how was it when

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Speaker 1: you got To? Hampton it Was hampton was like the

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Speaker 1: school that that you always wanted to go to when.

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Speaker 2: You was going down to. School Bethel BETH i. Was

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Speaker 2: my mom went To, bethel my aunt went To. Bethel

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Speaker 2: my mom played basketball For, bethel my aunt ran track,

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Speaker 2: man my uncles went To, bethel AND i just you,

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Speaker 2: know WHEN i moved From Newport news To, HAMPTON i

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Speaker 2: was in that that, district you know WHAT i. Mean

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Speaker 2: so LUCKILY i was able to you, know go To.

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Speaker 2: Bethel BUT i definitely didn't have a problem with, it

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Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE I i really wanted

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Speaker 2: to play for them because you, know my, family you,

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Speaker 2: know went. There do you when you see it's, CRAZY i,

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Speaker 2: said play for. THEM i won't even think about going

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Speaker 4: There that's how we be early on, exactly BECAUSE i,

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Speaker 4: know you see the schools nowadays and the hallways look.

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Speaker 1: Smaller back in the, day they used to look so

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Speaker 1: big and there was so much. Room how is it

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Speaker 1: when you just you go back and you, know like

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Speaker 1: being there last. Night you, know you know you probably

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Speaker 1: back and just these the hallsways you walk through and

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Speaker 2: You, know it don't seem. Real and then when you

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Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, mean you get all those flashbacks

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Speaker 2: of things you did in those, hallways you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean they're hanging, out you, know with your with your,

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Speaker 2: homeboys not even going in the, cafeteria just sitting out

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Speaker 2: there and just you, know kicking. It it was, crazy.

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Speaker 2: Man and then you, know going in the gym and

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Speaker 2: just seeing my football jersey hanging up in my basketball

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Speaker 2: jointing In georgetown and six adjoint and then my name

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Speaker 2: on the floor and all, that and you're just sitting

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Speaker 2: there and just trying, to you, know just take it.

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Speaker 2: In and the only thing you can think of is

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Speaker 2: like it's a, blessing like for somebody to like, actually

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Speaker 2: LIKE i know WHAT i went through to be able

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Speaker 2: to accomplish the things THAT i accomplished in my, Life

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Speaker 2: LIKE i know WHERE i came. From like this ain't

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Speaker 2: no made up story like it wasn't, easy you know

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Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean AND i always think, about like all

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Speaker 2: the accomplishments THAT i, HAVE i always think about the

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Speaker 2: fact THAT i didn't do it by. Myself you just

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Speaker 2: want to make sure the people that you, know that

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Speaker 2: you love and the people that helped, You you want

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Speaker 2: them to get their flowers, too you, know because you.

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Speaker 2: Can't you can't accomplish going to The hall Of fame

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Speaker 2: and top seventy five ever you, know best ever, players

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Speaker 2: and you can't do it by, yourself you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean you got your, family you got your, friends you

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Speaker 2: got your, teammates coaching, staff you, know the, fans you,

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Speaker 2: know like man a medical, staff train, us you know

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Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean like like the equipment, managers like everybody

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Speaker 2: and your. Success AND i always want them to know,

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Speaker 2: that you, KNOW i appreciate, them you, know AND i

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Speaker 2: want them to be. Noticed you. KNOW i don't want

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Speaker 2: it to be LIKE i felt LIKE i did it by,

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Speaker 2: myself you, know BECAUSE i didn't.

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Speaker 1: Told he sposed to have been a, quarterback but he hurt,

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Speaker 1: hisself so you wind up Being.

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Speaker 2: Tony tony got the story wrong. Quarterback he, said what

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Speaker 2: schools you play? FOOTBALL i ain't played FOR i played.

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Speaker 2: Basketball tony ain't never played.

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Speaker 2: Said it Was XAVIER. A. Gun he said he supposed

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Speaker 2: to have been the. Quarterback man that story, Goes tony

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Speaker 2: ain't never played. Football first of, all what bothered me

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Speaker 2: was all quarterback had graduated right and this, Guy Exavia

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Speaker 2: gun is like a best friend of, mine like he's

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Speaker 2: here right, Now LIKE i, mean we've been friends since

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Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen years. Old but x was coming From danville

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Speaker 2: and they already just sent. Him he wasn't even a

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Speaker 2: quarterback in Damn. Hill but you know how when somebody

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Speaker 2: knew come to your, School, yeah you just automatically think him,

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Speaker 2: man because he not from. Here so he come and

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Speaker 2: they send him the quarterback. School my heart, broken you,

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Speaker 2: KNOW i go back to wide. Receiver and what happened

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Speaker 2: was we were at practice one day AND x got

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Speaker 2: hurt AND i was the backup and they put me

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Speaker 2: in AND i just felt like that was my moment

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Speaker 2: and scrimmage AND i went wild on the, ass you

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Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and that was. It from. There

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Speaker 2: EVEN x went to the coach cars and, said, Man

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Speaker 2: chuck needed to be the, quarterback you know WHAT i,

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Speaker 2: Mean and it was history from. There BUT i don't

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Speaker 2: know What tony talking.

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Speaker 3: About how do it feel for?

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Speaker 4: You like you, said you back you back, here you

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Speaker 4: got your The Allen Iverson All American. Game you, know

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Speaker 4: we came up when it was McDonald's and this and, That,

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Speaker 4: like how do it feel for you to be back

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Speaker 4: here back?

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Speaker 3: Home you got your Own All American?

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Speaker 4: Game was just just on the same level of the,

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Speaker 4: McDonald's The jordan, brand, class everything, else and now you

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Speaker 4: bringing it back to your own high, School like could

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Speaker 4: you have ever fathom, that LIKE i be doing this

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Speaker 4: type of stuff here in my hometown and putting on

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Speaker 4: for the city and having An All American.

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Speaker 2: Game that's a great, QUESTION Q, matt because for, me

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Speaker 2: ALL i wanted to do was make it to THE.

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Speaker 2: Nba that was my. Goal then all the accomplishments and

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Speaker 2: all the things THAT i did ONCE i got to

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Speaker 2: that level is just icing on the, cake you know

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Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean that's what this. Is this is, like you,

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Speaker 2: know it's a dream come true because it wasn't thought

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Speaker 2: about in the. Beginning just getting there was thought. About

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Speaker 2: now the dream of me wanting my Own All american.

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Speaker 2: Game it came, true you know WHAT i, mean after,

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Speaker 2: me you, know putting in the work and being you

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Speaker 2: know WHO i am. Today but you never think, that you,

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Speaker 2: Know chuck will be back home having His All american,

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Speaker 2: game you know WHAT i. Mean and the people THAT

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Speaker 2: i grew up, with they hear to see, it you

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Speaker 2: know WHAT i, mean the ones that wanted to see

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Speaker 2: me make it and the ones that. Didn't you, understand

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Speaker 2: because everybody tell you in the, beginning, man we hope.

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Speaker 2: You you, know we hope you make. It, man we

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Speaker 2: It and then when you, do, man fuck that. Motherfucker

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Speaker 2: they don't do nothing for. Me you don't pay my,

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Speaker 2: like one thing with your. Homeboys AND i know y'all know.

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Speaker 2: This you, know when you're, young you hang with a

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Speaker 2: lot of, Guys you go to school with a lot of,

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Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean you got a lot of friends that

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Speaker 2: didn't even play, football and you got love for. Them

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Speaker 2: but when you get, older you have them certain guys

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Speaker 2: don't that think they supposed, to they have a problem with,

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Speaker 2: you you know WHAT i, mean because they, like, Man

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Speaker 2: i'm your man, Too like why don't go on no?

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Speaker 2: Trips why don't go to no? Games you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean and it's tough because you actually have love for them.

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Speaker 2: People and then when you find, out like it's like

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Speaker 2: What i'm, Saying and that, kid you, know feel bad about,

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Speaker 2: it you know WHAT i. Mean but, everybody everybody can't. Go,

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Speaker 2: man and the love like just supposed to be there

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Speaker 2: because of this man is rapping us all over the.

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Speaker 2: World i'm making no secret of my love For. Virginia

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Speaker 2: AND i went through so much In, virginia LIKE i

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Speaker 2: was actually you, KNOW i was railroaded, here LIKE i

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Speaker 2: was actually thrown in jail at seventeen and well eighteen

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Speaker 2: waited to take me to the court WHEN i got,

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Speaker 2: eighteen so they can try me as an, adult you

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Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean like they wanted to put me

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Speaker 2: under the, jail you know WHAT i, Mean but they

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Speaker 2: wanted to do, it not the whole, city you know

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Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean not the whole Virgin it. Was it

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Speaker 2: was so many people and they you, know they protest for.

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Speaker 2: Me they, marched you know WHAT i. Mean they did

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Speaker 4: Created so you saw that straight from the. Beginning you

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Speaker 3: Showed up to show it out for.

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Speaker 4: You so how did that feel at the early age knowing,

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Speaker 2: YOU i know it sounded, crazy but when you that, young,

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Speaker 2: i just be in here doing push ups and you,

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Speaker 2: know reading The, bible you know WHATEVER i had to

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Speaker 2: you're reading The bible? For like that's what people doing.

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Speaker 2: Here he was, like did you read The bible when

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Speaker 2: Now AND i was, like, Man i'm just reading it

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Speaker 2: get out the whole six. Month but the whole TIME

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Speaker 2: i was in, there every day they was telling ME

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Speaker 2: high every day when they was telling me. That to be,

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Speaker 2: remember it AND i never forget. It he told, me he, said,

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Speaker 2: man you're not getting out of. Here he, said do

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Speaker 2: Up my. LAWYER i still love him to death to this.

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Speaker 2: DAY i just didn't understand why he would say that to.

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Speaker 2: got some good, news like you, know you can get out,

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Speaker 2: man looked at him so, crazy, like, man, Today, Man

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Speaker 2: i'm ready to get out of. Here AND i went back.

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Speaker 2: THERE i remember just taking my, jacket you, know the

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Speaker 2: It i'm gone and it was on since. Then then

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Speaker 3: Of how did it feel walking up out of?

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Speaker 4: There, Though, like, man you finally like got up out of,

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Speaker 2: Door my mom, my, baby, sisters you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean they had a hard time with me being in,

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Speaker 2: them get back to my. GIRL. Q i was recruited

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Speaker 2: by every football team and basketball team in the, country

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Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, Mean division, One division, two division,

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Speaker 2: three everybody in the. Country and WHEN i was, RELEASED

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Speaker 2: i won't recruit it by nobody. Else, NO i had no.

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Speaker 2: Office what does that do to your? Mind like a

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Speaker 4: Who had the world on, them and then you go

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Speaker 4: this was here for me is nothing like what are you?

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Speaker 3: Thinking in?

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Speaker 2: That just a different pain THAT i never felt before

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Speaker 2: BECAUSE i had the feeling that it was over and

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Speaker 2: not not so much more so of the world not

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Speaker 2: being able to see What Alan iverson can do on

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Speaker 2: the highest. Level it was WHAT i love to. Do

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Speaker 2: LIKE i loved, it you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE

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Speaker 2: i loved it like you talk about you know how

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Speaker 2: these guys talk about low management and stuff like that like.

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Speaker 2: i got, hurt they had to literally hide my. Uniform

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Speaker 2: and you know WHAT i. MEAN i mean LIKE i

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Speaker 2: love to, play you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't care, hurt, sick, Whatever,

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Speaker 2: MAN i love to. PLAY i love to be in

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Speaker 4: You how do you feel when you see see guys

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Speaker 4: they had to snatch it from. Us now it's like

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Speaker 4: think when you see the low management or managing an

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Speaker 4: i REMEMBER i remember to seeing the they used to

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Speaker 4: put the damn body skeleton THE. Usa he got, this

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Speaker 4: he got got this and put all your injuries up.

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Speaker 4: There but you still. Playing so what do you THINK

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Speaker 4: i used?

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Speaker 2: To, LIKE i like looking at it back down AND

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Speaker 2: this but, like if you want to keep me out of,

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Speaker 2: something keep me out of, practice, man you know WHAT i,

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Speaker 2: Mean like, like, yeah you know What i'm, Saying LIKE i,

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Speaker 2: CAN i?

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Speaker 3: CAN i? Can you?

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Speaker 2: Know and it's crazy BECAUSE i THINK i Think gil

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Speaker 2: said some of About, Yeah gil did say, something CAUSE

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Speaker 2: i Posted gil said something about, it and he was

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Speaker 2: like they gave me hell about. Practice and you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: i would play in any game no matter, what you

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Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and now you got guys that

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Speaker 2: don't play in the, game like you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: guys to play in the. Game AND i was LIKE

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Speaker 2: i look at it, now and Then i'm like the

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Speaker 2: motherfuckers just picking on, me, man you know WHAT i,

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Speaker 2: Mean like LIKE i, mean you can you? CAN i

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Speaker 2: remember playing two forty eight minute games back to, back

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Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, mean and got into it With

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Speaker 2: coach a little something because we lost one and we won,

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Speaker 2: one so we had practice that next, day and you,

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Speaker 2: know once you have back to, backs you don't practice

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Speaker 2: on it that.

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Speaker 3: Day AND i also know what the Coach Larry brown practice.

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Speaker 2: Feels, like exactly, Exactly, bro.

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Speaker 4: You talk two and a half three, hour photographer hour

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Speaker 4: for just for talking when he frees. You but, sure

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Speaker 4: fuck your looseness and getting tight about to talk for

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Speaker 4: about ten minutes over this one thing real quick and

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Speaker 4: then get back to it and you better be right back.

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Speaker 2: Ready it, hurt, Man it. Hurt it hurt real bad

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Speaker 2: BECAUSE i was, thinking LIKE i had my thoughts BECAUSE

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Speaker 2: i had positive people around me, too and they were,

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Speaker 2: saying it's gonna be all, right you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean somebody gonna look out for, you somebody gonna give

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Speaker 2: you a. Scholarship and you KNOW i, was you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: i had my. DAYS i still kept, WORKING i still,

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Speaker 2: kept you, know working on my game BECAUSE i love

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Speaker 2: it so. Much and my mom went up, there she

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Speaker 2: went TO dc and she met with, him and the

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Speaker 2: rest is. History you. KNOW i REMEMBER i remember times

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Speaker 2: where he would he would tell me that like he wouldn't,

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Speaker 2: have you, know if my mom wouldn't have came up

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Speaker 2: there and begged for my life but she was, like you,

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Speaker 2: know literally begging from my.

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Speaker 3: Life did you, know, like how was? It how did

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Speaker 3: that come?

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Speaker 4: About did she tell, you Like i'm going to, like

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Speaker 4: did she, like how did she tell? This it was

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Speaker 4: identified with Coach? Thompson and then how did all that come?

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Speaker 2: About it was a guy from around our, way guy

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Speaker 2: really looked up To he was the older. Guy jamel

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Speaker 2: was cool with my. Mom he used to look out for,

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Speaker 2: whatever because you, know in that, time you know how

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Speaker 2: bad off we, was you know WHAT i. Mean and

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Speaker 2: he was, like you need to just go up there

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Speaker 2: and holler at Big. John and my mom was, like all,

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Speaker 2: Right i'm cool with. It and everybody was talking to,

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Speaker 2: him you. Know AND i guess from what he told,

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Speaker 2: me the pitch won't write for, him you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean like it was like like a basically like a

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Speaker 2: cockiness and arrogance of why you should let him come.

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Speaker 2: Here but my mom came with something totally. Different my

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Speaker 2: mom was, Like i'm trying to save his. Life if

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Speaker 2: you leave him down, here the chances of him, dying

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Speaker 2: that percentage is very, high you know WHAT i. Mean

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Speaker 2: so whatever my mom said to, him it got to,

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Speaker 2: him and he gave me an. Opportunity and he tell

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Speaker 2: me all the, time if your mom, Wouldn't And i'm,

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Speaker 2: like Coach, man so you're telling me that my talent

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Speaker 2: didn't have nothing to do with, it you know WHAT i? Mean,

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Speaker 2: like come, on, coach that guy was like the. First

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Speaker 2: he was the PERSON i always had confidence in, myself

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Speaker 2: like always. HAD i was never cocky or. ARROGANT i

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Speaker 2: always had the. Confidence like WHEN i was eight years,

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Speaker 2: old my mom told, me you could be anything you

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Speaker 2: wanted to. Be so when she told me, That LIKE

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Speaker 2: i don't know how kids react to, stuff you know

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Speaker 2: when their mom tell, Him but with my, MOM i

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Speaker 2: actually believed. It so when she told me, THAT i

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Speaker 2: always had the confidence THAT i could be, that you

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Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean SO i always had confidence to

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Speaker 2: whereas IF i stepped on the football field OR i

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Speaker 2: step on the basketball, court it's, me you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean LIKE i always feel Like i'm the best on

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Speaker 2: the basketball. Court you put me on the court With Michael,

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Speaker 2: JORDAN i know who he, Is but when y'all leave,

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Speaker 2: here y'all don't know who number three is, too you.

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Speaker 2: Understand so my confident level was it was just always

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Speaker 2: high and when the man gave me the, SHOT i was, Like,

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Speaker 2: Okay i'm gonna do something with, this you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean And i'm, always you, know being debted to this

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Speaker 2: man forever because he gave me a chance to live

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Speaker 2: out my dream and he protected me up. There the

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Speaker 2: media couldn't get to, me you know WHAT i. Mean

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Speaker 2: we had some, bad real bad. Incidents you know WHAT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean every TIME i go to the free throw. Line jail,

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Speaker 2: bird jail, bird you know WHAT i. Mean we went To,

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Speaker 2: villanova they had four guys in the. Stands they had

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Speaker 2: the orange suits on with the chains and uh it

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Speaker 2: said that the NEXT mj and they HAD mj crossed

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Speaker 2: out and then HAD oj you know WHAT i. Mean

432
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: and Coach thompson went. Crazy he took us all off the,

433
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: court told him they didn't throw them guys, out we

434
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: won't playing the. GAME i, mean he, was he was.

435
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: Protected he was a, father best. Friend so why was

436
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: basketball and not? Football? While he decided BECAUSE i, mean

437
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i went to jail And Coach thompson was the

438
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: only one they took.

439
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: Me it was no football people.

440
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: MESSAGE i remember we were in the weight. Room, YEAH

441
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: i was actually in the weight room BEFORE i had

442
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: to do it under. Him BUT i was in the

443
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: weight room AND i just got the. COURAGE i was,

444
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: like because WHEN i used to walk to the, GYM

445
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: i had to walk by the football, field SO i

446
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: had to see. Them AND i used to literally like

447
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: get tearry eyed and all. That AND i used, to you,

448
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: know after a, WHILE i went the long way SO

449
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: i wouldn't have to see, it you know WHAT i.

450
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: Mean AND i just got the carriage one day and

451
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: when and, them it was, like, coach you, KNOW i

452
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: want to play, football and he, WAS i, MEAN i

453
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: don't want to get that crazy up. Here but you,

454
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: know if you know Coach, thompson you know his language

455
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: and what he told, ME i ain't never think about

456
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: playing football again the way he dismissed, me like the

457
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: way he you, know AND i know he finished with,

458
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: saying don't ever come to me with that stupid shit.

459
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: Again you know WHAT i, mean get the hell out of.

460
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: Here and that was. IT i never thought of about

461
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: playing football ever.

462
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Again tell.

463
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 4: Me it is, though like when you, said like coming

464
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: from you, know you get out of. Prison you know

465
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 4: What i'm, Saying you go now you're about to go To.

466
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: Georgia how was that culture shot from being From virginia

467
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 4: and then you go to a you, know a prestigious

468
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: university Like, georgetown because everybody Know georgetown's not your. Normal you,

469
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: know that's a high, educational you, know institution and all. That,

470
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 4: like how was that coming from where you from going

471
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: out there and making that.

472
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 2: ADJUSTMENT i looked at it, like you, know LIKE i

473
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: was At, bethel that wasn't my. Problem my problem was

474
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: me eating three times a day and my mom and

475
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: my sisters wasn't, right you know WHAT i, Mean like

476
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: that was my, problem my? Problem, yeah you know WHAT i. Mean,

477
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i remember one, time like Coach thompson

478
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: would never get on, me but he would talk to.

479
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Me and he told me one. TIME i was, like

480
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: you got a problem with? Me he was, LIKE i

481
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: don't have no problem with. You, said IF i won't

482
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: talking to, you that's when you KNOW i got a.

483
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: Problem you.

484
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: KNOW i was missing class a. LOT i always hated.

485
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 2: SCHOOL i just didn't like the, hours you know What i'm.

486
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: Saying AND i was MISSING i was missing class and

487
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: he called me in there and he was, like, yeah

488
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: said you go up there hell every. Day you, know

489
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: you eat three times a. Day your mom down there

490
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 2: and your sister's living in that hell. Hole but you

491
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: living it. Up ain't you you doing your? Thing? Huh

492
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: you got nice you got heat and you, know and

493
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: you do, room you got hot. Water but down, there

494
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: your mom don't got none of. That your sisters don't

495
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 2: got none of. That you know WHAT i. Mean you

496
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: got an opportunity to change all that for, them but

497
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: you want to fuck. Around and, MAN i would snap

498
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: out of it right. THEN i, mean he could break

499
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: me down because you, know listening to, that you know

500
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: he's telling. Me he's telling me the. Truth you know

501
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean it's like you being selfish or you're

502
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: not loving them like you're supposed, to not thinking about

503
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: them when you're missing class and stuff like, that you

504
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean AND i just snapped right out of,

505
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: it you know WHAT i. Mean he'll get me right

506
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: back on.

507
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: Track when you going through, that you're a, freshman you

508
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: know What i'm.

509
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 4: Saying you, Young, like how is it for you experiencing

510
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 4: that and then seeing somebody who not you know how

511
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: we are we from the, hood.

512
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: We used to are sticking up for us like that

513
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: when you see Coach.

514
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: Thompson being who he is who you just getting to

515
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 4: know him or, whatever and like that you're not family with.

516
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: Him but when you see him riding like, that like

517
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: what does that mean to? You to see him somebody

518
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: with his figures prominent as he is going to bat

519
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: for you like?

520
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 2: That love a, blessing just a, blessing you know WHAT i?

521
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Mean and LIKE i thought kill AND i got away

522
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: from you know WHERE i was going with the confidence.

523
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: Thing my friend and my Teammate Jerry, nichols when after a,

524
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: game they always go in the bathroom and, talk you

525
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, mean get away from, us and they

526
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: talk about the. Game jerry was SHITTING i, overheard, yeah

527
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: so they didn't know he was in, there and he was,

528
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: LIKE i think we had just Played Seaton Hall my

529
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: may have forty On Danny hurley something like, that and

530
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: he was like that little motherfucker as bad as, hell

531
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean And jerry came out and

532
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: told me. That and when he told me That Coach

533
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: thompson said that about, me that was it for me

534
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: for the rest of my, life you know WHAT i.

535
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: Mean soil that all the basketball was. Over that took

536
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: my confidence to a whole nother level because he, said

537
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean that meant so much to.

538
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: ME i just felt like nobody could do nothing with.

539
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Me you, KNOW i felt like that, already but he

540
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: took it to a whole other.

541
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: Level and at what point sophomore year or was it

542
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: a point during the, year or did it happen at the,

543
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: end like did you know like it's Time i'm out of?

544
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: Here because we all get that all that time you

545
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: make your mind, up and it's like sometimes you probably

546
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: get a little notion during the, year you might not

547
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: make your real, Deciy but when did you really, think, like, oh, yeah.

548
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: You set you set me. Up you're doing a beautiful

549
00:28:54,600 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: job of of the, timeline like, YOU i, mean everything

550
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: is you, know everything is. Right you know WHAT i,

551
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: mean what you're. DOING i knew that just being All,

552
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: american you, know just knowing WHAT i was doing to

553
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: guys or to. TEAMS i KNEW i was. GONE i

554
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: had a bens six hundred bands AND i was parking

555
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: on the. Campus but he know, everything like he knows

556
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: everything goes on IN. Dc, everything he knows Where i'm,

557
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: at everything Like i'm, Doing like, yeah like people would.

558
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: Tell him ninety six he got the six hundred. Beans

559
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 4: he out here Like, jay reasonable. Doubt, man you feel

560
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: me just listening to ways he ain't saying the. File

561
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: he's in.

562
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: College he's still in.

563
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: School. Man that, man that man called me down there

564
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: and he was, like he's, like you're going pro. Hunh

565
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: AND i was, like why you say? That, LIKE i,

566
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: MEAN i know everything you. Said you. THINK i don't.

567
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: Know you got that. Car say you think about going?

568
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: PRO i said. Yeah he, said go, ahead take care

569
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 2: of your. Family just like, THAT i, mean do what

570
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: you gotta. DO i was the first person to ever

571
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: Leave georgetown, early you know WHAT i. Mean he was,

572
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: like go do what you got to. Do you know

573
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean he knew my situation and. Everything and

574
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: then the crazy. Part David falk was my agent because

575
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: he was coach. Agent he Was patrick, agent And alonzo,

576
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: Agent Ken, Bay, mike you, know all of all guys.

577
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Everybody So i'm in there With David. Falk So David

578
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: falk was talking to. Me he was, LIKE i don't

579
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: think you need to come. Out but his whole thing,

580
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: WAS i, mean just me being older now and knowing.

581
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: Better his whole thing was to try to stay on

582
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: that because we got close my sophomore, year but try

583
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: to stay and win a championship with. Coach he was

584
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: doing it for, coach you know WHAT i. Mean and

585
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: the crazy shit is he, said you're not even gonna go.

586
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Lottery Well i'm not even gonna go, lottery AND i

587
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: end up being the number one, Pick like are you?

588
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: Crazy you know What i'm. Saying BUT i, Understood LIKE

589
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: i understood what he was. Doing but you, know he

590
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: didn't scare me at. All and in that, draft LIKE

591
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 2: i KNEW i was going number, one BUT i. Ain't,

592
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: no you, know just so many things go on in

593
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: your life that you, know so many.

594
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: Disappointment let me ask you this, though because you, said

595
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 4: Like Coach thompson was, like do what you gotta, do

596
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: take care of your. Family is it a chance or

597
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: do you think or do you even? Know like if

598
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: he had been against it or opposed to, it because

599
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: you had so much reverence for, this you know What i'm.

600
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: Saying you respect him so. Much do you think that

601
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: could have changed your?

602
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: Decision if he was, LIKE i don't think it's, Time

603
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: WELL i don't think you should. Go do you think

604
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: he could have influenced anything any other.

605
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: WAY i don't. Know that's a great. QUESTION i don't, know,

606
00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: man that's a great. Question BUT i do know the,

607
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: man the, character and he knew my. Situation, yeah you

608
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean SO i don't think he would

609
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: even he would have put me first like he always.

610
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 2: Did he would have put me, first and and and

611
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: my feelings first, too you, know help help my my.

612
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Family SO i, DON'T i, DON'T i. DON'T i don't

613
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: think he would have pulled pulled? Back how did?

614
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: So how did that?

615
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: Feel like even, like like you, say looking back at

616
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: it as you older than, that when you look back

617
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: at it like Big, john right off the, back do

618
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: what you gotta, do do, this, that and the, third

619
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 4: even though the agent was trying to do some other

620
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: shit and tell you to take care of, him like,

621
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: like how did that make you look at him as a,

622
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: person as a as a, coach a mentor or whatever he?

623
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: Was you like knowing that forget about, me he was

624
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: looking out for you and yours before higher than. Anything

625
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: like even though the agent wanted to try and look

626
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: out for him and win the, championship he went past all,

627
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: That LIKE i know you your, situation go do YOU?

628
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: Q he was like that with all his. Players though

629
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: he didn't treat me to, me he. Didn't he didn't

630
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: treat me no different Than i've seen him be the

631
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: person he was to, me to everybody. Else that's just

632
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: who he, was you know WHAT i. Mean that's that

633
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: he was just a great. Man, yeah it was just.

634
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: Real he was just he was just a great. MAN

635
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: i just know that he wanted was best for. Me

636
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 2: like and then the aftermath of me playing At, georgetown

637
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: all the times THAT i talked to him when we had,

638
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: conversations we never talked about basketball from that point. On

639
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Like i've heard him when he was commentating was he DOING.

640
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Tnt i've heard him talk about me basketball wise on TN,

641
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: T but me and him never talked. Basketball AFTER i Left.

642
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: Georgetown it was all about. Life it was all about

643
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: me and my family And, tijuana you know WHAT i.

644
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 2: Mean it was about my. Kids it was it was just,

645
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: that you know WHAT i, Mean and all the way

646
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: up until you know he, passed you know WHAT i,

647
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: mean it was it Was it was devastating to. Me

648
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: it was real bad for, me you know WHAT i.

649
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Mean When ronnie called me because he was telling me to.

650
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: Come he was, LIKE i don't think he gonna make.

651
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: IT i THINK i give him by a. Week and

652
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: he was, like you need to get, here and then

653
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: he was gone the next. DAY i didn't even have a.

654
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: Chance it was.

655
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 4: Crazy we were setting up to get an interview with,

656
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 4: him like weeks before, that like really situating and getting.

657
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 3: In, position AND i led. Him he he had, accepted

658
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: he said, yeah and.

659
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 4: Everything but then you, know obviously things, happen which which

660
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: was which was. Crazy tell me, this like when you,

661
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: went BECAUSE i always mess with, Him i'm Pretty i'm

662
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: one hundred. Percent you was in the same category as

663
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: when it came to the, draft, right no. Workouts you're

664
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: a number one. Pick you just had.

665
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: Worked out who you work out? For?

666
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: Six how was it was anybody? There it was just.

667
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: YOU i And stephan were oh you and my.

668
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: Bridge so, yeah you was by. Yourself that's What i'm.

669
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: Saying you had like a little you. Came oh they

670
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 4: got at.

671
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: You it was. Grueling it was, real real. Bad it

672
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: was real. Bad and And steph will tell you they

673
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: put them through the same. Thing it was real.

674
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: Bad so they really wanted to see who was who

675
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: between the two of y'all step was bad, Man oh,

676
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: no trust, ME i played with.

677
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: HIM i know that was. Bad it's.

678
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: Bad so tell me this when you like going to the,

679
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: draft you, know like that's what we all dream. Of

680
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 4: we watched it Since, harvo watching players get their name,

681
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: called like for you going to the green, room you,

682
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: know kind of being predicted as a number. One but

683
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: like forget, That like how was it When David stern

684
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: called your? Name and it's like my moment has a,

685
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 4: Ride like we all waited for that moment forever and it's,

686
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: like up until that point of whoever's, life that is

687
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: the biggest thing that has happened to us.

688
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: Period, Yes so like for you when you.

689
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: Hear like and especially you, know it's a different conversation

690
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: with you the number one? Overall pick you the, One

691
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 4: like you know What i'm, Saying, like how was that for?

692
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: You to go through everything you've been. Through you've literally

693
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: been in, jail the most unlikely story you could, have

694
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 4: and now you the fucking number one?

695
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: Overall Pick like what Was? Joe, like what was happening

696
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: when it?

697
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Happened it was like not tough in no type of

698
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: gangster way at. All Because i'm never gonna be that

699
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: AND i never was, that but just tough and you

700
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: wanted it and you believed in Your god and it.

701
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: Happened you, know it was like all that you've been,

702
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: through what's the use of besides doing an? Interview what's

703
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: the use of dwelling on?

704
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: It?

705
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: Ever? Again because you made it out of it, unscathed

706
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean, yeah you have some things

707
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 2: on Your Coach thompson used to always say he had

708
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: to go through? Hell would they put him through to

709
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: become In? Virginia but he never discussed. It he never

710
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: talked to me about. It he never complained about. It

711
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: AND i, didn't you know WHAT i, mean BECAUSE i felt,

712
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i made it out of. There you,

713
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: know whatever them people was trying to do to, Me

714
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: god and myself wouldn't let him get away with, it

715
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't let him do. It you never gonna have no

716
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: eye high moment with. Me you don't get, it you

717
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, mean. Don't you. Don't you don't get

718
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: a chance to do, that you, know to. Me SO

719
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: i had all type of emotions and you, KNOW q

720
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: that night is it all comes out when you when

721
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: you're drinking and you're having fun and you around the,

722
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 2: people you get to see all of these people that

723
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 2: you love and the people that's proud of. You it's

724
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: just like it's hard to stop. Crying and you know

725
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: WHAT i, Mean and you even had the moments were like,

726
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: SHIT i can't believe, this, man you know WHAT i,

727
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: Mean like, yo LIKE i can believe, This LIKE i

728
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: remember the times where this ship looked very like it

729
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: isn't it ain't.

730
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: Happening and then we here and.

731
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: We, here you know WHAT i? Mean and, now And

732
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: i'll tell you one thing. ELSE i was thinking about

733
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: that that. NIGHT i thought about When Jerry nichols we

734
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: used TO i, MEAN i still Love, tupac But jerry was,

735
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: saying you, Know Chuck, man you're gonna get the jewelry

736
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: Like tupac goat and all. THAT i just remember him

737
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: saying that to. Me you know WHAT i. MEAN i

738
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: remember me telling my teammates, like, yo, man how they

739
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: gonna stop me in THE? Nba you know WHAT i.

740
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Mean can't run no zone two, three can't Run no

741
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: one three one, man can't run no boxing. One you

742
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: know WHAT i? Mean in THE, nba they gotta play

743
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 2: me straight up one on. One, now four scoring titles.

744
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: LATER i don't understand how zone came back into THE.

745
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: Nba in the.

746
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 3: History of THE, NBA i know.

747
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Why you know, why in the history of THE nba

748
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: they never had. Zones and then you got this six

749
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: foot dude winning scoring title after scoring, Title, like all, right,

750
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: loud let's implement its.

751
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 3: Own, well you changed some other ship.

752
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: Too you took the hop step out of the game,

753
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 4: too the hop step because you was hopping over double.

754
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: Teams.

755
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: Motherfucker, yeah, people legs is together while they're trying to

756
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: double Team trapp and you hopping.

757
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: Over like this and get.

758
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 4: It did they took That, Well i'm gonna tell you

759
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 4: that they took it out When lebron and D wade

760
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: started dunking out of that. Beach, yeah that was something.

761
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: Nice something ain't right.

762
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: Here can't stop.

763
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: It that's when you became like a culture kind like you,

764
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: know we, like we all Love jordan wearing them the,

765
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: shoe but when we seen you had the concord z

766
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: on The Patton, lovers you know What i'm. Saying, like,

767
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: CULTURALLY i, know you start feeling the culture of like

768
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: now you got worldwide. Support now a lot of people

769
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: are loving the way you, play loving you your.

770
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: Style how was that to?

771
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: Start even love too from a lot of, players especially

772
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: like The hoods all.

773
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: OVER i went through a lot my freshman, year but

774
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: it started to kind of calm down my sophomore. Year

775
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: it started to calm down because your play it kind

776
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: of makes people. FORGET i don't think the cultural icon

777
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: started coming into existence UNTIL i got into the, league like.

778
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: At the, draft you, mean because like at The, DRAFT

779
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: i can vividly remember The rebok, commercials like you know

780
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: What i'm. Saying at that, point if you was in

781
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 4: high school, basketball you knew you know What i'm, saying

782
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: your story and what was going. On PLUS i knew

783
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: Mac irving AND i lived up the street from. THEM

784
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 4: i remember them talking about you being on THE au

785
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: trip when you was about to go To george and

786
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: they were Like Bubba. Chuck i'm what motherfucker Is Bubba

787
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: chuck and blah blah blah, blah but like like he

788
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: about to be the next.

789
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 3: Shit, then like you, say your freshman year went and killed.

790
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 4: It so it was like at this, point we really

791
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: seeing know what's going. On and then when you got

792
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 4: to the draft that That rebok commercial was the ship

793
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: to answer all these questions swirling around a drafts on you,

794
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 4: WANT i, answered like we were at that.

795
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: Point it was.

796
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Over it was the.

797
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: Hood it was.

798
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: Over it was just different, because first of, all shout

799
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: out To. Rebok they never wanted to market, me no,

800
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: way but me being WHO i, am you know WHAT i,

801
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: Mean like they didn't have a problem with, different you

802
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean everybody was wearing, suits, everybody you

803
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and it's, like my whole, Thing

804
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: and y'all know this when we, PLAYED i never went

805
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: to a basketball, court to a park with a suit

806
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: on to play. Basketball the only TIME i remember wearing

807
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: a suit is the funerals and. Church, yep you. Understand,

808
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: like and my whole thing was WHEN i came in

809
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: LIKE i was always comfortable in my. SKIN i didn't

810
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: want to wear a suit to a, game you know

811
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean y'all knew how we, was what were

812
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: going after the game to where we're gonna wear a suit?

813
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Nowhere were going to the club or, something you, know

814
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: were on a restaurant going to eat and then we

815
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: go out and have.

816
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 4: Fun and wasn't the guys that was gonna walk up

817
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: in the club and the suits who you?

818
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: Are we aren't?

819
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: Them AND i was, like, MAN i used to dress

820
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: like the guys from my. Neighborhood it was just THAT

821
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: i could afford the stuff that we couldn't. Afford then we.

822
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: COULD i can afford the jabowls and the you know

823
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean and you know What i'm, saying and

824
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: the lovers and all the the TEMs and the stuff

825
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: that that we were with the hat on what you

826
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and it wasn't a problem at,

827
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: first if y'all, Remember but it wasn't a problem at,

828
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: first and then everybody saw THAT i was doing, it

829
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: and then there you. Go you've Seen kobe with the

830
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: chains on and the baggy clothes and. Whatever you see,

831
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: everybody you, know y'all my, Homeboy so you, KNOW i saw,

832
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: y'all and Then larry and then you, know guys on

833
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: my squad, start you, know, like, oh we don't have

834
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: to come in with a suit on. Anymore and everybody

835
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: was just and WHEN i look at it, NOW i

836
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: took an ass whooping for. It but it's bittersweet because

837
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: you see guys now they come, in they got their own.

838
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Style you know WHAT i, Mean they got their own.

839
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: Style they you, know they feel. Good, man they're going to.

840
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: Hoop they want to feel good what they got. On

841
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: they want to be, fly you know WHAT i. Mean

842
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: and it's like when you look at. That everybody don't

843
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: supposed to look the. Same everybody don't play the, same

844
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean everybody got their own.

845
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: Personality it's always down to a thing like, now it's

846
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: in every. Arena they make sure they're getting the guys

847
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: walking into the, gym show what they have on and

848
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: show how they.

849
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: Dress, yes you know it became a. Thing, Yes AND

850
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: i you KNOW i took that ass. Whooping but you,

851
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: know hey, Man i'm here.

852
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: RIGHT i look AT i look AT i use you

853
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 4: and too as big, examples right because like you for,

854
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 4: us you took the beating and made it okay for

855
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: us do all of this stuff, right same thing for

856
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: kind of t o right to was getting ridiculed. Him he,

857
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: said you don't want see me, celebrate keep me out

858
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 4: the ends. On but like now they celebrated celebrating all.

859
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: This it's just the same. Way like, now everything you went,

860
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: through they celebrate us for our well not, us but

861
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 4: like the. Players they celebrate them for their individualism and

862
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: they you, know creativeness or whatever they want to call.

863
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 4: It but like even us when we came in, early

864
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: they hated us doing this and partying and.

865
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: All they thought that was.

866
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: Different we having, fun, bro we not disrespecting the. Game

867
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 4: we having, Fun we bringing the audience into it and every.

868
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 4: Thing but like now all of those things are championed and,

869
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: celebrated and it's, like but we we got Like Jase

870
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 4: sloan used to hate, us. Legit Sean stevenson told us

871
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: that a rookie on that, team he was, like, yo

872
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 4: he hate.

873
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: Y'all and now you see song was old.

874
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: School you see you see the cats now like all these,

875
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: kids every time they scored, something they doing something the, signature.

876
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: And when y'all was doing, it it was a. Problem

877
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: it was a problem like gods doing, anything and, man that's.

878
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: Crazy and then you see that the guys look LIKE i.

879
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: HAD i had corn. ROLLS i had corn rolls BECAUSE

880
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: i was tired of going on the roll And barber's

881
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: sucking my. Head SO i was like, SHIP i let it.

882
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: Grow and THEN i always wanted. TATTOOS i just couldn't afford.

883
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: Them SO i WAS i was overdosing on, them LIKE i, just,

884
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: MAN i, WAS i JUST i just love. Tattoos and

885
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: now you see dudes with all half you know WHAT i,

886
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: mean they feel good about. Themselves, man they want to

887
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: look like they want to. Look, MAN i JUST i

888
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: just think that's, dope you, know because the fans don't

889
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: have a problem with. It so why would you, know

890
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: why would the organization or the upper echelon people in

891
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: the league have a problem with speaking of?

892
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 4: That how you're saying how that fans had no problem with.

893
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: IT i always think about the one video of the

894
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: one little white kid coming with the tattoos drawn on,

895
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: them the sleeve and everything they like for you when

896
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: you saw, that you, know coming from where you come,

897
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: from we from the, hood we ain't used to.

898
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: That like you see you see a little white kid.

899
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: Coming dressed to the nines exactly like, you showing that

900
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 4: you are his, idol his favorite, player and he taking

901
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: it this far and his parents allowed.

902
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: It like what if that? Translate how did you feel

903
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: when you saw.

904
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: THAT i actually posted? IT i ACTUALLY i posted. IT

905
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 2: i just you, Know AND i might have said something

906
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: like trends that or something like. That BUT i just

907
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: felt like it's all, Right, OKAY i sum it up like.

908
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: This you've seen reservoir, dogs, right seen reservoir dogs all?

909
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Right when they did all that, killing robbing that jewelry

910
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: store and all that, stuff what they have. On they

911
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: were wearing. Suits all of them had on black suits

912
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: with black. Times remember that all of them had on,

913
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: suits all, Right but these dudes were murder, quick you

914
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, Mean John, gotti what he used to, Wear.

915
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: Alcalpone these are real killer, criminals but they got on.

916
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: Soups so just because you put somebody in a.

917
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: Suit don't make them. GOOD i don't make them, good.

918
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: You know WHAT i. Mean like you will see somebody

919
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: and no disrespecting, nobody but somebody be walking down the

920
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: street and they be dressed like, us nervous and the,

921
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: person you, know get. Scared person with a suit, on

922
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: don't even think twice about. It but this can be

923
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: actual RICH nba superstar walking by you that you scared.

924
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: Of that perception is just it's, unfair you know WHAT i.

925
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: Mean you can't judge nobody for how they, dress you

926
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean it's crazy their.

927
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: Parents let me ask you about, it like BECAUSE i had,

928
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: braids but your braids you didn't, have like the regular

929
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: braids or you, know yeah you, rock you know you

930
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: rock your sixth braids. Sometime but to go into the

931
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to the, designs to the different, styles LIKE i, REMEMBER

932
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: i never seen nobody have these. Braids you had the

933
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: little braids that went into the big, braid and that

934
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: was the first. TIME i, yeah the. Fishbone this was

935
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: the first TIME i ever seen no. Braid what was

936
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: that to go into? It and, like, MAN i WON'T

937
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: i won't flavor on my. Braids Man dare's.

938
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: Look it's crazy because my best friend Made rest In

939
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: Peace rah used to have his hair in all these

940
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: different styles AND i used to talk shit about, it

941
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: like like why do you do all of? That you

942
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: know WHAT i? Mean you, KNOW i was just straight, back,

943
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: straight get sick ALL i, did and he used to

944
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 2: do all the different styles or. Whatever and THEN i

945
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: was like this one, DAY i was, like, Man i'm

946
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: gonna try AND i tried it because of, him and

947
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: the RESPONSE i got was so. CRAZY i just, start you,

948
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: know the girl that was doing my just do anything

949
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: you want to, do and she just was doing. It

950
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: and then everybody was liking. It everybody, start you, know

951
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: and they started calling them The ai braids and all,

952
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: that and it was it was crazy man, Coach, yeah,

953
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: yeah you know WHAT i. Mean and then and then

954
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: like LIKE i think the people start relating to me

955
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: because it was something that they never seen. Before. Either

956
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 2: they ain't never seen a dude in THE nba dressed like.

957
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: That even even my, uniform LIKE i, WAS i was

958
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Biting mike LIKE i just wanted to look like you

959
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. MEAN i just wanted to look like

960
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: a superhero on the, court, headband the, sleeve and. Wristband

961
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 2: and you, KNOW i always have my sneakers every, game

962
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: different sneakers matching or. Whatever like now these, guys you,

963
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: know they do their. Thing they wear their uniform and

964
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: a sneaker totally different. COLOR i could NEVER i couldn't never.

965
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: IMAGINE i would never have done it, Anyway, yeah because

966
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: may you ever Seen superman wore what red white and red? Yellow? Blue,

967
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: uh Spider man red black, blue you, Know batman? Yellow

968
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean but just think if they

969
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: had on a different color. Boot you know What i'm,

970
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: Saying Like i'm trying to look like Like Michael jordan

971
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: and me looked like a superhero out, there you know

972
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean he looked like a. Superhero everything was. Perfect,

973
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah Like Kevin garnett looked like a superhero in his.

974
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: Uniform LIKE i never seen nobody that tall look, Smooth

975
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: like the guards always looked, smooth you know WHAT i.

976
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Mean he was, tall and he just he just had

977
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: the wristband on the, bow the baggy, shorts you know

978
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: WHAT i.

979
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 4: Mean like at what point do you think you just

980
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: started to see Like i'm the hood?

981
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 3: Hero like when did that dawn on? You LIKE i mean.

982
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 4: Obviously when they hit us, first because we was the

983
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: one that was a door and you and, Everything like

984
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 4: when did it reach you to your presence of?

985
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Mind like?

986
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: Damn like like the like they really fuck with me

987
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 4: and like lift me.

988
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: Up being out and about BECAUSE i. Don't i'm Always

989
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: i'm always OUT i, mean like by myself grocery.

990
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: Stores what's hilarious is we just Did Brandon miller and

991
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: he was, like, man AY i be at the mall

992
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 4: like he regularly just just just frequenting.

993
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 6: Them, all walking Around dolold with a homeboy like he

994
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 6: like he not who he.

995
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: Is man could Because i'm not gonna Let i'm not

996
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 2: gonna live my life like. That i'm the people's. Champ

997
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: LIKE i like being around PEOPLE i, LIKE i, LIKE

998
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: i like talking to regular people and and and they

999
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk to me Like i'm their,

1000
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: homeboy you know WHAT i, mean or you know WHAT i,

1001
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: mean like just just talk like they want to talk,

1002
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: basketball we talk, basketball you want to talk hip, hop

1003
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: you want to talk real. Life and then you know

1004
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: the people's champ, man Like i'm not Gonna i'm not

1005
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 2: gonna be out all the time with security and and

1006
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: not be able to go to the mall and grab

1007
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: me you, KNOW t shirts or not go to my

1008
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: homeboys son's back basketball. Game and you know that's, everything.

1009
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: Man AND i started to know it when when you're

1010
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: seeing the jerseys, Everywhere you're seeing you seeing like like

1011
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: all the, dudes you, know the hip hop, dudes you,

1012
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: know wearing the, jerseys and you know the kids wearing the,

1013
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: jerseys AND i, think, LIKE i love all my, fans

1014
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: BUT i love when like older older, people you know

1015
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean old People LIKE i ain't saying like, grandparents,

1016
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: Grandparents i'm, SORRY i Ain't AND i mean, now like

1017
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: you can be a grandparent at thirty, five you know

1018
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean you, know just, yeah you know WHAT i,

1019
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: mean your grandma could her name could Be shonte. Now

1020
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: but but, man, yeah but.

1021
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: But big big bestie them.

1022
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: Like older people like sixty seventy eighty and Mister iverson

1023
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 2: like or a little kid like five six seven years,

1024
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: old you, know Mister. Iverson And i'm, like, man how

1025
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: you know? Me and they, YouTube you know WHAT i, Mean,

1026
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: like AND i think that's dope because people that came

1027
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: up off of me or with, me they put their

1028
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: kids on it like, man you think such and such,

1029
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: as like let me show you LIKE i had to

1030
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: do that with my. Son you, know my son Loved

1031
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: lebron like, man but you don't you ever Seen, mike

1032
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean, like and THEN i put

1033
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: in And jint like.

1034
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 4: The rest of y'all parents to get out here and

1035
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: do with what WHAT i go. With one of our

1036
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: goats is. Doing he's showing them the. Reel, now y'all go,

1037
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: ahead phones to you.

1038
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: Have got too we. All you, know when you get

1039
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: to the, league you always want to be an all.

1040
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Star you want to be a you, know all first.

1041
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Team you want to be A, olympian you want to

1042
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: be all this. Stuff one thing you want to be

1043
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: you want to have, Too you want to have a.

1044
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: Nickname right when you first heard the, answer what was

1045
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: your thoughts about?

1046
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: THAT i thought it was dope because you hear it

1047
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: now in the, games you know WHAT i, mean such

1048
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: and such with the, answer you know WHAT i, mean

1049
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 2: like somebody scored then you, know then you come down

1050
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: and such and such with the. Answer AND i just

1051
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: thought it was like the most different. Nickname you, know

1052
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 2: WHEN i think Of Air, JORDAN i think of, magic

1053
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean, like you, know like this

1054
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: dude really name really Is King. James like that's so,

1055
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 2: fitting you know What i'm. Saying like and just all

1056
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: the nicknames AND i you, KNOW i get to not

1057
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: even my. Game you can put my nickname in there

1058
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: with all the top nicknames and it'll stand. Out it's a,

1059
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: conversation you know WHAT i. Mean. Conversation it's like it's

1060
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: like the the the, BASKETBALL i, mean what is? It

1061
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 2: the beauty salon and the. Barbershop you, know those are

1062
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: the best, sports you know WHAT i. Mean LIKE i

1063
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: like to go to the barber shop and get a

1064
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: shaped up just to sit in there and on some

1065
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: regular ship and listening how they you, know how they

1066
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 2: how they. Talk and it's, like you, know a lot

1067
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: of a lot of guys LIKE i don't have flag,

1068
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: before even with all my. Accomplishments dudes be, like, man,

1069
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: well he ain't better than this. Person he ain't better

1070
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: than this person or. Whatever and you, know my, homeboys

1071
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: like WHEN i became A hall Of famer in top seventy,

1072
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: five like they loved it the most because it's extra bragging.

1073
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: Rights you, know, well such and such gonna be top

1074
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: one hundred next, time or such and such gonna be

1075
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: A hall Of famer one. Day and my homeboys be, like,

1076
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: man when you get, there we had this, conversation you

1077
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: know What i'm. SAYING i just knew that was ammunition

1078
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: for my homeboys, too to talk about in my family.

1079
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: Members you know WHAT i. Mean you, know everybody argue

1080
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 2: about that stuff. Still, Man it's it's. Healthy it's. Fun it's,

1081
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: fun you know WHAT i.

1082
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 3: Mean it's fun the.

1083
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: Debate we grew up on hip, hop you, know we

1084
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: grew up on rapp and all that. Stuff to hear

1085
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: your name and to hear rappers like you, know do

1086
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: their lyrics and you know What i'm, saying to say

1087
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: your name and and do it in unique, Ways like

1088
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: how was that because you know your name was down

1089
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: there in every song or or, mention what was one

1090
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: of the first songs that you heard that had your

1091
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: name in it that.

1092
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: That you? Remember, man if you can't, REMEMBER i, know Red,

1093
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: MAN i stay in the paint LIKE ai. SHOES i

1094
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: MEAN i think it might have. Been, MAN i don't

1095
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: want to disrespect. NOBODY i think it might have. Been

1096
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: un let's get it with g, depth black, rock, yeah

1097
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: flowing each channel with the averson. Hanni, YEAH i MEAN

1098
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: i know it got like RECENT i know recent, ones

1099
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: but the first, one LIKE i think that might have.

1100
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: Been that might have been the first. One, Yeah and

1101
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: this is.

1102
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 4: WHAT i want to ask, you, right, like how was

1103
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 4: it for you to Win rookie of The. Year you,

1104
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 4: know you make it through, everything you now you you

1105
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: you the number one overall. Pick you got, expectations but

1106
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: you come and blow that ship out of the. Water

1107
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 4: you're hitting fifty, balls you you averaging you, know high,

1108
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: points and then like you you eventually become The Rookie.

1109
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: Year like at that point when you get that, award

1110
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 4: like what does that mean to? You it's like as

1111
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 4: far as how you how far you've.

1112
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: Come it was something THAT i, wanted it was something

1113
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: THAT i KNEW i was capable of. Doing BUT i

1114
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: think the most gratifying part of the whole thing was

1115
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: how good all the rookies were in my.

1116
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: Class.

1117
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 4: Class that's What i'm, Saying, like you know WHAT i,

1118
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 4: mean like that rookie. Year, yeah and then it's. Class

1119
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: it's arguably the best draft.

1120
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: EVER i think.

1121
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 2: So AND i. UNDERSTAND i understand why two thousand and.

1122
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: THREE i understand because those three, players but sell is.

1123
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: Deep it is.

1124
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: DEEP i understand why people, say you know WHAT i?

1125
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: Mean And i'm the fuzzo question THAT i should have.

1126
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: WORN i have A t.

1127
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: SHIRT i have A t shirt with the with The

1128
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: slam magazine cover from that Dret.

1129
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Where the fuck was?

1130
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 4: You how the fuck did them one pick cold that

1131
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 4: with the broken? Wrists where the fuck was?

1132
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: THAT i don't. REMEMBER i just didn't want to. GO

1133
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: i was twenty one.

1134
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: Year we had no clue is gonna be this? Iconic

1135
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: so like do you do you?

1136
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: There? YEAH i wanted to be on that, cover BUT

1137
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: i was told about, it AND i THINK i was

1138
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: just doing something. ELSE i was being twenty, one, like,

1139
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: Man i'm not going to no photo, shoot you know

1140
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean now THAT i look at, It i'm,

1141
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: like damn that beyond that the iconic. COVER i Remember step, saying,

1142
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 2: man what the hell Is? Chuck, Like, man ain't no

1143
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: telling one of the other things when we come. Up

1144
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: we want all of us want our own.

1145
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: Shoe when you first seen your, shoe you signed the

1146
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: rebuking you've seen your shoe because your shoes on the

1147
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: dopest shoes.

1148
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: First like, OKAY i.

1149
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 2: Know and to see the success of the.

1150
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: Shoe how was it to see your shoe and how

1151
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: everybody was gravitating and WEARING.

1152
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: I would award if it was my singature. SHOE i

1153
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: would award. It if it was a if it looked

1154
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: like a, still if it looked like a, boot it's,

1155
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: mine it's, mine my, name you know WHAT i. Mean

1156
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: like it was The it was the greatest feeling BECAUSE

1157
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: i am LIKE i wanted to be Like. Mike that's

1158
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: HOW i grew, Up LIKE i wanted to be Like.

1159
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: MIKE i wanted to be Like. MIKE i See mike now,

1160
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: today AND i still get. Nervous i'm still, nervous you

1161
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: know WHAT i mean all the. Time you know WHAT i?

1162
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 4: Mean that man number for twenty five years, Now i've

1163
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: called him this many. Times Ever i've never text, him

1164
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: never go what the Funk i'm about to Call mike

1165
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: and fuck With mike For are you kidding?

1166
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: Me don't call?

1167
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 3: Him, No i've never called.

1168
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: Him such a. Fan i'm talking about. Man WHEN i

1169
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: look at him in person, like he don't look real

1170
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Like i've never looked at nobody in life like AND

1171
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: i Make i've met a lot of.

1172
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: Times he met him a lot of, times a lot of.

1173
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: TIME i met some great people man in, life some

1174
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: some real talented, people, man you know WHAT i, mean,

1175
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: Man but they have LIKE i Love Michael jordan And.

1176
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: Mike i've always wanted The jordan's and all. That and

1177
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: THEN i had my own you know WHAT i. Mean

1178
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: and it was like like this is. Crazy and then

1179
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: like to see my mom waar, them see my homeboys,

1180
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: wham and see my sisters. Wam you know WHAT i.

1181
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 2: Mean like it was like, yo, man LIKE i got

1182
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: my own. Shoe and then it just kept going and

1183
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: kept going and kept going and it was like shoe

1184
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: and it was my, shoe like shoe mouth in the,

1185
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: top you, know signature. Shoes and it was just a

1186
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: crazy moment for. Me, man it was just. Unbelievable LIKE

1187
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: i said, earlier all this stuff was icing on the. Cake,

1188
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: Man all this stuff was just it was just icing

1189
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: on the. Cake then you, know you can. Forever you

1190
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: know your legacy and what you've done on the. Court

1191
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 2: you can always take care of your. Family you can

1192
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 2: always take care of your. Mom your mom ain't gonna

1193
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: never want for nothing no. More your, sisters you Know.

1194
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: Twanna you, know me and her got five, kids been

1195
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: together thirty two, years you know WHAT i. Mean and

1196
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: the ups and, downs the ups and downs they come

1197
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: with the, territory, man you know WHAT i. MEAN i

1198
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: always think in my, mind, man this two shell, pass

1199
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 2: whatever it, is you know WHAT i. Mean you know

1200
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: you can get through. It so you had that confidence

1201
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: and Your, god you had that confidence in yourself that

1202
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: everything's gonna be all, right you know WHAT i. Mean

1203
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 2: and it's just all that, stuff, man all the things

1204
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 2: that happened to, me like sitting here doing this right,

1205
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 2: here and how popular this podcast, is you, know WHAT i.

1206
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: Mean i'm. Chuck i'm on this. Bitch you know What i'm.

1207
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 2: Saying i'm here like it took a, while but there's

1208
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: no way it won't gonna, happen you know WHAT i.

1209
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 2: MEAN i want to say.

1210
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: This WHEN i started, OFF i was With Jordan, brand

1211
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: AND i wound up Leaving Jordan brand and signing With.

1212
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: REBOX a lot of people don't know, this or some

1213
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: people do know, this but WHEN i signed With, reebok

1214
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: they put me under your, line and to this DAY.

1215
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 2: I have the shoes.

1216
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: NINETEEN i got the shoes to this day WHEN i

1217
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: was under your, line got my signature on. It and

1218
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 1: these are The rebox shoes THAT i had WHEN i.

1219
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: Played With reebok In. Portland when you get, IT i

1220
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: got them FROM i had them the whole. Time you

1221
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: know What i'm, Saying you like you just you just

1222
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: kept that.

1223
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: One, YEAH i kept this, prayer, no this, prair both of.

1224
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: Them, YEAH i kept the.

1225
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: PAIR i had to have the pair and all this

1226
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: stuff because this was like the Signals Saint. Louis this

1227
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: was the sickness to, shoe the signals to, shoe AND

1228
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: i just wanted to show you this So i'm gonna

1229
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: have to have you.

1230
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: Sign this and got to know it and rock with.

1231
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: Me but you don't know that WHEN i did go To,

1232
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: REBOK i was under THE ai line and we did

1233
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: a commercial.

1234
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: And the whole nine with.

1235
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 4: That, hey, listen this is WHAT i want to, ask

1236
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: because like you, know you like, us you grew Up

1237
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 4: mike is the man and all this like so when

1238
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 4: you first made it to the, league you know you

1239
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 4: got the players we all and saw it now where

1240
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 4: you god damn caught him out down the island and bought.

1241
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: Bam, bamn gained the little the little test.

1242
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 4: And didn't hit him like for, You, like how was

1243
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 4: that for you to go up against M j and

1244
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 4: do your iconic ship and bomb and you really you got?

1245
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: Him you keep up like for you and. He but

1246
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: Still i'm gonna tell you how bad he, is how

1247
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 2: great he. Is he's still almost blocked. It he's still

1248
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 2: almost blocked. It AND i got him. Good you know

1249
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean, MAN i mean in the aftermath of,

1250
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: it BECAUSE i ain't know WHAT i. WAS i knew

1251
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: BEFORE i knew, THAT i was telling all my friends

1252
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: and my family that IF i ever got a, chance

1253
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: if he ever guarded me THAT i was gonna try

1254
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: my move on the greatest player ever. Play SO i

1255
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: KNEW i was gonna do. It when it got on,

1256
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: Me that's WHY i backed. UP i, said, oh here we.

1257
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: GO i didn't Get nert AND i was, like you,

1258
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: said just, young you know WHAT i, mean and just.

1259
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 2: Confident so my heart did won't thumping or nothing like,

1260
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: THAT i, won't you know WHAT i. MEAN i was

1261
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: JUST i did it LIKE i would do it any other.

1262
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: Time you. KNOW I doune caught millions of people with

1263
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, Mean AND i got, him But

1264
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 2: i've gotten people way worse than. Him but it's. Him it's,

1265
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: him you know WHAT i. Mean so that's the big.

1266
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: Deal and it was JUST i don't. Know, man that,

1267
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: NIGHT i was like, damn you, know but we had,

1268
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: lost so it was a. Bittersweet REMEMBER i went to

1269
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: A charlotte game when he, was you, know doing the

1270
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: thing In, charlotte AND i went to your. Game he

1271
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: took me up in this week, whatever and you, KNOW

1272
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: i remember JUST i had my homeboys with him AND

1273
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: i was just praising, him and my man pulled me.

1274
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: Aside he was, Like, chuck, man stop that, shit, man, Like,

1275
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 2: man you a superstar. Too, man don't do, that you

1276
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 2: know WHAT i? Mean AND i was, like, MAN i

1277
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: just can't help. IT i love this. DUDE i was,

1278
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: like you know WHAT i. Mean he was, Like, man

1279
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: you don't love me because you wouldn't crossed me up like.

1280
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: That you know What i'm.

1281
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: Saying, Hey, No i'm telling you LIKE i asked you, that,

1282
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 4: cause like you remember when we was At jordan camp

1283
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 4: the first time we really got to play Against. Mike

1284
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 4: like we started going To Michael Jordan's Santa barbara camp

1285
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: when we was in high, School like at the high

1286
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: school superstars kind of the top high school. Players he

1287
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: would bring. That then the college players would be. Counselors

1288
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 4: so me and d got to go is high school

1289
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: and college players is.

1290
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: Counselor and so WHEN.

1291
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: I first got up, there LIKE i, was it was

1292
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 4: funny for me to not be nervous to play against,

1293
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: him BUT i was nervous to just be next to

1294
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: him all around, them but we was on the.

1295
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 3: COURT i was, LIKE i gotta fucking do something against.

1296
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: HIM i gotta do.

1297
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 4: Something like you remember HOW i used to go With

1298
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 4: mike when we if we wasn't on his. TEAM i

1299
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: used to try and Kill. Mike so WHEN i scored

1300
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 4: on him and sit like, That i'd be, Like i'm calling.

1301
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 4: Everybody i'm calling. Everybody that's the.

1302
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: Accomplishment, man What, man that's A i have a arrived,

1303
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: moment you know WHAT i?

1304
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: Mean, like.

1305
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: Was y'all at The All Star game where they honored

1306
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: us with the top seventy? Five, no, no, okay just

1307
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: me being is. Great just me being there like this

1308
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 2: the greatest feeling THAT i THAT i had WHEN i

1309
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 2: was there in the. Room when you got the older legendary,

1310
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: guys they want to meet, you you know WHAT i,

1311
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: Mean like they want to meet, you and then you

1312
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: know you talking about you, know as an honor and

1313
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: this that and the third to meet you and they

1314
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 2: saying the same thing to. You, MAN i always wanted

1315
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: to meet, you and you know AND i and it, was,

1316
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 2: yes it, was you, know to be in a room

1317
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: where you with the, best you, know the cream of

1318
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: the crop and they giving you your. Props BUT i, remember,

1319
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 2: man And i'll never forget. It he showed up to

1320
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: the joint AND i just remember the reaction from everybody,

1321
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: else all the other what seventy four you know WHAT i,

1322
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 2: mean all the other seventy four AND i remember the

1323
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 2: reaction from, them you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE i

1324
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: was looking at, it like, yo this man is the,

1325
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: man the ONE i, Mean and you KNOW i hear

1326
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: all the comparisons and all, that you know WHAT i,

1327
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Mean AND i have to be. BIASED i have to

1328
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 2: be because he made me want to be. Me but

1329
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: THEN i get a chance to when you want a

1330
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 2: debate about, IT i get to talk about his. ACCOLADES

1331
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: i get to talk about what he's done like and

1332
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: and and be confident and my, feelings you know WHAT i.

1333
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: Mean and you, know not to get in get into,

1334
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: it BUT i Love lebron as a basketball, player as

1335
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: a everything that he did for the for, BASKETBALL i,

1336
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: mean the man he is off the basketball, court all

1337
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: the things that he you know WHAT i, Mean he's just,

1338
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: Man he's, it you know WHAT i. Mean and they

1339
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: always putting them together like why it can't be Like

1340
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: lebron is On Mount rushmore, facts that's, enough you know

1341
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean like that is better than, Him it's.

1342
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Not it's not no disrespect because, YOU i, mean you're

1343
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: better than WHO i am as and was as a basketball.

1344
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: Player you know WHAT i. Mean, like and it's like for,

1345
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: me just Just kobe was JUST i, mean he just

1346
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: a certified maniac, killer you know WHAT i, Mean Like

1347
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: i'm talking about cereal serial. Killer you know what i,

1348
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 2: Mean Like i'm talking ABOUT i, mean want to eat your.

1349
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 2: HEART i, mean that's what he was every. Night i'm

1350
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 2: taking everything personal every, night you know WHAT i. Mean

1351
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: and it's work act and everything about. Him Man like

1352
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: as a basketball, player he was JUST i, mean he's

1353
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: the Real him And mike are the real definitions of.

1354
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 3: Killer, okay let me ask you a, question cause it's

1355
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 3: SOMETHING i say a.

1356
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 4: Lot and since we're here and we're talking about, this

1357
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: LIKE i, say it's no disrespect or slight to, Anybody,

1358
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 4: No but when everybody be doing this whole gold fast,

1359
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 4: EVER i feel LIKE i feel like they be tripping

1360
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 4: when it comes To, kobe BECAUSE i feel like we've

1361
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 4: BEEN i don't know how you want to separate it

1362
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 4: or position, it but to, Me mike And kobe they

1363
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 4: up at the top in some other little separate room

1364
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 4: and they still like all of the greatest and all

1365
01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 4: of that is still a.

1366
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: Monk but they get to go sidebar.

1367
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 4: Over here and talk about something else that don't nobody else.

1368
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 3: Know do you agree with me on? That do you

1369
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: agree with me on?

1370
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 4: That, Like i'm just just the Way i'm Telling i'm

1371
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 4: not talking About everybody got their stats and everything, right

1372
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 4: but we all know as real hoopers that lined it

1373
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 4: up at the highest level when we win against them,

1374
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: people we know the difference of how people were revered

1375
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 4: and talked about and responded to when they show up

1376
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: and they are who they. Are and in my, OPINION

1377
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: i didn't play against all three of. THEM i am

1378
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 4: scored on all three of. Them they just scored on.

1379
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: Me and it ain't them.

1380
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 6: Too kobe And mike is something completely totally fucking, different,

1381
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 6: BRO i, promise and, everybody like most people that haven't

1382
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 6: had this conversation with they all agree if they didn't

1383
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 6: play the same, thing they didn't play against all, three

1384
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 6: and they seen all, three they Know cole And mike was.

1385
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 2: Different and one THING i, know and one thing people gotta,

1386
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: know and one THING i don't respect when it came

1387
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: the people that get upset about the, debate that's your.

1388
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 2: OPINION i, MEAN i, mean if you're a fan of this, person,

1389
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 2: man and can't nobody tell you that anybody else is

1390
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: better than, Them you stick with. That you hold that

1391
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: close and idiot to your. Heart that's how you feel

1392
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: about that. Player, man it's nothing wrong with you Saying

1393
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: lebron is the. Best it's nothing wrong with you Saying

1394
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: steph is the best that ever. Played it's nothing wrong with.

1395
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: You you know that's your. Opinion that's how you. Feel you

1396
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: know that's not a right or wrong if you if

1397
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: you that type of, fan you gotta respect. It people

1398
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: want people call me to go yeah you to some,

1399
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 2: people to some. People you know people people make an

1400
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: argument for me all the time and say what if

1401
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: you was six for? Six you know WHAT i? Mean

1402
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: like people people say That i'm never gonna say nobody

1403
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: is better Than Michael JORDAN'S i will never say. That

1404
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: but people say all kinds of crazy. Things somebody told

1405
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: me Before Michael jackson couldn't, sing like What and then

1406
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 2: right THEN i was, like, okay people tripping.

1407
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 3: Ida heard it.

1408
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: All now you know WHAT i. Mean so now Now

1409
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: i'm prepared for what anybody. Say you understand What i'm,

1410
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: Saying LIKE i, know people just say the craziest Ship

1411
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: like a person actually told Me Michael jackson couldn't, sing,

1412
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: like come, on, man.

1413
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: Come on, man damn what year was it when it

1414
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: Was mike's last? Game was that two oh?

1415
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: Three man they robbed, Us Sean, marion what? Happened, no

1416
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: they Gave kobe that foul at the, End, Mike mike

1417
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: get a Shot mike.

1418
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: And fucked up the. Game coach not on.

1419
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: THAT i.

1420
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 3: Remember i'll never forget. THAT i, Say god Damn, kobe

1421
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 3: Goddamn kobe You and it's just the way he would.

1422
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: Have wanted it to that jump. Man he hit that,

1423
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: man he hit the. Jumper sean was, righting sh was all.

1424
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 4: Over tricks was all, over, MAN mj, said cash and

1425
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 4: Then god Damn kobe. Happy but but like that was

1426
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 4: one of the like all, Time like you, know y'all

1427
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: had the competitiveness in that.

1428
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 3: GAME i remember.

1429
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 4: It was like you, STEPH a lot of y'all guards

1430
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: was out there and, Everything, like what do you remember

1431
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 4: from that?

1432
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 3: Game that Was MJ's that was last, year, Right.

1433
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 2: YEAH i was. HERE i remember. Them WHAT i liked

1434
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: the most of the uniforms that was the old school. Uniforms.

1435
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: YEAH i was so happy to put that on BECAUSE

1436
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: i Remember mike wearing that uniform back in the. DAY

1437
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: i think the joint THE NBA r right here white and, yeah,

1438
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: MAN i, REMEMBER i remember them days when he had

1439
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: them joints on and THEN I i mean.

1440
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 4: Just and it was competitive, Though like that was WHAT

1441
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 4: i loved about that, game that it was, like, yeah

1442
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: y'all did the little. Boys but then it got. Cracking

1443
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 4: it got like cracking cracking to where it was like, y'all, oh,

1444
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 4: no they playing for, Real now this ain't just like

1445
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 4: let them, go let them?

1446
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 3: Go like how was that part of?

1447
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: It? Is? Man for me, personally LIKE i only know

1448
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: how to play one, Way LIKE I i play like

1449
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: that and pick UP i play like that when, scrimmage preseason,

1450
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: game regular season, Game like that's why.

1451
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: You know Your All american game is more competitive than

1452
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 4: most of these other ones for, real for.

1453
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: Real it's like it's like with, me LIKE i play

1454
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: the Same like IF i play the same way in

1455
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 2: the finals THAT i play in a pickup, Game i'm

1456
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 2: gonna play the same. Way that's why the lights never

1457
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 2: got bright for. Me too bright for me BECAUSE i

1458
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 2: play like this all the. Time i'm gonna play the

1459
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: same way in a home game That i'm gonna play

1460
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: an away, game you know WHAT i? Mean LIKE i

1461
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 2: never understood when people say the role players play good at.

1462
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: Home but then you, know like what difference do it

1463
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: make that make you feel? Better to shut shut the crowd?

1464
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 2: Up you know What i'm, Saying Like i'm coming in

1465
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,480
Speaker 2: here to. Kill it's gonna be joy.

1466
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 4: Getting to talk ship to the other. Crowd all that

1467
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 4: like that was something THAT i you, KNOW i.

1468
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: Loved because they're talking crazy to you and then you

1469
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: getting the last. Laugh come, on ain't nothing better than.

1470
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: That anybody can play good at? Home like that's everybody

1471
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: cheering for, you you know WHAT i? Mean that game

1472
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: that that that was The All star games right, there

1473
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: like we always was trying to trying to, win you

1474
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. MEAN i don't remember what coach it,

1475
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: was BUT i, remember, YES i. REMEMBER i ain't gonna

1476
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: say it, say BUT i REMEMBER i think we got

1477
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: twenty thousand or to win the, game and all ship

1478
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: was one two three twenty. Thousand you know how every you,

1479
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: know our motherfuckers say one two three, together one two

1480
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: three win or. Whatever twenty k man the coaches, man

1481
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 2: y'all got all that damn money, man we try to, Win,

1482
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: man get this.

1483
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 4: Money hey tell me this, though how was it for

1484
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 4: you when you actually WON, Mvp cause it's, like you,

1485
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 4: know it's one thing when motherfucker Make All star do

1486
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 4: this and the like after that season when you got

1487
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 4: the like wherever you went, came whether you came back

1488
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 4: here or wherever you went after in that, summer how

1489
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 4: was that summer?

1490
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 3: Phrase like that's, like.

1491
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 4: We, know whatever we during the, season the summertime is

1492
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 4: like it's like our, bragging, right like when we show

1493
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 4: up to, it whether it be a little charity event or. Whatever,

1494
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 4: like how was that the summer after you?

1495
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 2: Come first of, All i'm coming home like we used

1496
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: to lose in the, playoffs And i'll get in the car,

1497
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,919
Speaker 2: quick right yeah and, ride you, know ride the five hours.

1498
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: HOME i just wanted to get home around the people

1499
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 2: you know that know. ME i don't got to Hear

1500
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 2: ai no, more you know WHAT i. MEAN i just

1501
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: hear every, everywhere chuck, chuck, chuck. Chuck you know WHAT i.

1502
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: Mean just feel, home smell, everything the look. Everything but

1503
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: it was just crazy because in that, season like one

1504
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 2: of my homeboys, said, yo, man can you imagine you

1505
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: know when you were, young you could be able to

1506
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 2: say you're the best player in the, world in the,

1507
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 2: world you know WHAT i. Mean and if he wouldn't

1508
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: have said it to, ME i don't THINK i would

1509
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: ever thought like, that you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE

1510
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: i CAUSE i accomplished some things before, that you, know

1511
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: Obviously i'd never been TO. Mvp but like when he said,

1512
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: THAT i was, like, damn like, yeah, man like right

1513
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: now whatever people, say like and all the you, know

1514
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: AND i go back to the barber shop and the

1515
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: beautyy lines like, Yo i'm the best player in the,

1516
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 2: world you know WHAT i? Mean and that's that's. Crazy

1517
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 2: that Was that was the FEELING i. Got and then

1518
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: you get all THEM mvp. PARTIES i was only twenty,

1519
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 2: five you know What i'm. Saying so all THOSE mvb

1520
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: parties everywhere we, go somebody wanted, to you, know ge

1521
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: some money to throw a party in them, joints jam.

1522
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: Packed like that was a, crazy crazy.

1523
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: Summer, Man how was it to see you, know not

1524
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: only did you WIN, mvp the Kem bai Won Defensive

1525
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: player of The.

1526
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: Year, yeah coach Won coach of The.

1527
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: Year it's like a six man Six like how y'all

1528
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: was all a team and y'all was getting the success

1529
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: and of love and y'all went to the. Finals, yeah

1530
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: we got everything that we wanted award, wise and we

1531
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: would have gave it all, up you, know to win.

1532
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: It and the crazy part about, it WHEN i WHEN

1533
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: i think about, THAT i ALWAYS i wanted to win,

1534
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: it BUT i wanted to win it more BECAUSE i

1535
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: wanted to see my mob their, eyes you know WHAT i.

1536
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: MEAN i wanted to see how they you, know how

1537
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: they reacted to winning, it you know WHAT i. Mean

1538
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: like it's, crazy like with all the you know guys

1539
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: teaming up and all. That Like i've Never i've never wanted.

1540
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: That come, on, man IF i play With shaq OR

1541
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: i play you know WHAT i, Mean like like like

1542
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 2: that's anyway that would be too easy for. Me but

1543
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: like just being in the foxhole with them dudes and

1544
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: looking to the left and the right and they they

1545
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: there with, ME i, mean my dut you know WHAT i.

1546
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 2: Mean and the best feeling for, me the best feeling

1547
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: for me as A nba player was regardless who we were,

1548
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: playing them dudes on my squad felt we always had

1549
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: a chance because they had me and that ship is so,

1550
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: dope you know WHAT i. Mean but that, finals, man we,

1551
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: went we ran Into, kobe And kobe was he was,

1552
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 2: decent you know WHAT i. Mean but he didn't dominate

1553
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 2: In kobe fashion like he usually do in that. Series

1554
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 2: but it was, shocked man Was and people were saying

1555
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: The ken did a great job with he, Did but

1556
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: thirty five and fifteen the first fucking great job on,

1557
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 2: shit it was. Domin that was like that Was kobe

1558
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 2: and his prime with the best role players, ever you

1559
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: know WHAT i, Mean like and one of the greatest

1560
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: coaches of all.

1561
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 4: Time hey tell me this, Though like when y'all for

1562
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 4: y'all to walk INTO la and Get game, one how

1563
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 4: did you? Lead like fuck everything? Else Just i'm talking

1564
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 4: about after game? One like you, KNOW i, say you

1565
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 4: talk about stepping up a little and all, that but

1566
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 4: like just walking away knowing y'all just shot the entire.

1567
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 3: World got everybody like what the fuck just? Happened like

1568
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: walking out of that Wonder oh what did that? Feel?

1569
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 2: Like this is he was, Like, hercules this is no.

1570
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: LIE i walked in the locker room AND i was,

1571
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 2: saying we ain't do nothing, yet but they can put

1572
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 2: them brooms, away you know WHAT i, mean because they swept.

1573
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: Everybody so that was my thought, process like we can't

1574
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: get satisfied with winning one, game like you know WHAT i.

1575
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 2: Mean and then we Had game, Two Derrick fitcher hit

1576
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: a three on, me and then we Lost game three at.

1577
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: Home that was, close but we was demoralized after. That but,

1578
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 2: man tay the honest, truth like when you look back

1579
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: at it, now which is hard because it's just a

1580
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,520
Speaker 2: game that we you, know we didn't win the, series

1581
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean they would probably, Say, okay

1582
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 2: you know y'all wanted a, game, man but we won the.

1583
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Championship but it was a great, feeling, man because we

1584
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 2: knew we could beat, them you know WHAT i. Mean

1585
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: we we went into the series knowing we were gonna

1586
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: win that.

1587
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 4: Series y'all gave the underdog a glimmer of. Hope i'll

1588
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 4: tell you, that y'all made everybody, think like, fuck that

1589
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 4: we could, fight like we could. Try like you know

1590
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 4: What i'm, saying especially after the first, game is, like

1591
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: it ain't it ain't just it ain't just what it is, always.

1592
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: Man it's not it's THE. Nba it's like when any

1593
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 2: pro profession pros is pros, man pros is pros, man.

1594
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 2: Disrespectful you can be you can be the greatest boxer ever,

1595
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: lived and you fuck up and get hit with that one.

1596
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: SHOT i want to talk to you about About, cold

1597
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 4: your relationship With cold and when you first played against?

1598
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: Them did you play us in the high? School? Nah

1599
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: not to the?

1600
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 2: League, yeah the. League when did you first get to

1601
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: know about? Him when he came straight from high? School?

1602
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 3: Right he was?

1603
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: Crazy it was. Crazy so he.

1604
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 3: Got a chance to see him before that or know

1605
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: nothing about.

1606
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: HIM i went To la to meet. Him we was

1607
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: playing The. Lakers we went. OUT i told everybody this,

1608
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 2: story went, out did? Eat AND i just remember he

1609
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: was asking. ME i was In. LA i ain't never

1610
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: been In. La so he was, like, yo he was,

1611
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: like what you're doing? TONIGHT i, said you, Know i'm

1612
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: going to the. Club he was, like all, right Well

1613
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: i'm going to the. GYM i was, like, Yo like

1614
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: this dude was a, dog you know WHAT i? Mean

1615
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: like this motherfucker, eleven twelve o'clock at night And i'm

1616
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: getting to go out and he going. Out he going

1617
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: to the. Gym and that's how he, was you, KNOW i,

1618
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: MEAN i heard all the other stories from everybody, else

1619
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: BUT i was, like, yeah he had that in him

1620
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: in the. Beginning, definitely do WHAT i, mean.

1621
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 4: Tell me, this how hard was it when you had

1622
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 4: to Leave philly after all of the history and everything

1623
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 4: that you had built there and the all of the

1624
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 4: everything that went.

1625
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 2: On it won't it won't hard at, all you know

1626
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 2: WHAT i? Mean BECAUSE i didn't like what was going.

1627
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: On you, know we had lost like twenty something games

1628
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: in a, row something, crazy AND i kept trying to

1629
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 2: get them to change what we were trying to. Do

1630
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: AND i just talked to THE i talked to, ownership

1631
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: AND i was just, like, look, man if we're gonna do,

1632
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 2: This i'm at the end of my. Career i've been

1633
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: in ten. Years, like if we're gonna do it like,

1634
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: THAT i don't want to lose, now you know WHAT i.

1635
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 2: Mean my hourglass or whatever you call it is running,

1636
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 2: out you know WHAT i. Mean i'm, Like, man if

1637
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna, do, man y'all might as

1638
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 2: well let me. Go as bad as it was to you,

1639
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: know the fans and you, know to guys that was

1640
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: on the, squad it was, like, MAN i can't do,

1641
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: this you know WHAT i? Mean AND i. WAS i

1642
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: went to dem got it.

1643
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 4: Done how was it when you got the? Devil you,

1644
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 4: know you got me LIT, dj all of. Them and

1645
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: was that like kind of like a refresher FOR i loved?

1646
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: It it. Was it Was obviously he was the most

1647
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: talented PERSON i ever played with in my, life you

1648
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean SO i was excited about. THAT

1649
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 2: i was excited about the whole squad With kenyon and J. R.

1650
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 2: Canby we had some monsters on that. Team but again

1651
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 2: we ran in The San antonio in their prime and

1652
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 2: The lakers in their. Prime just a bad, rap but

1653
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: we Were we were.

1654
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: Good let's talk about these covers, though because you got

1655
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: some of the most iconic magazine covers out.

1656
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 2: There which one is your favorite cover is the one

1657
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: with the? Fro, yeah and the same that's because that's

1658
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: WHERE i love with The PHILLY i got. THAT i

1659
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: want A t.

1660
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 3: SHIRT i want A t? Shirt why? Come?

1661
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 2: Man, look you know it's so crazy to watch in

1662
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: the ring THAT i had on in the. Joint somebody

1663
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: stole it that same day.

1664
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: Ship but you was, rocky are DOCTOR J? Vibes?

1665
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro you had to. Blow that's WHY i was getting.

1666
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: It that's What that's WHAT i was. GETTING i was just, thinking, like,

1667
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: man what CAN i do? Different? Man you know WHAT i?

1668
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 2: MEAN i was swag joint with your. Numbers but my,

1669
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 2: SHIP i was mad as? Man what and the crazy

1670
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: part about? It but you KNOW i ain't around no,

1671
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 2: more BUT i was with my.

1672
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 3: Homeboys you know how men.

1673
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 4: Covers you know how many COVERS i got WHERE i

1674
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 4: was trying to be like with so much ice on

1675
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 4: THE espn, Magazine remember that ship with Me ellen And Idre.

1676
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 4: MAN i had seven chains on and two bracelets and

1677
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 4: two wives on the.

1678
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Case he know something like the crazy part about that

1679
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: jewelry ship is me and my mom always been like that.

1680
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Always i'm talking about WHEN i was five and six years.

1681
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 2: Old man ear. RING i, KNOW i ain't had no

1682
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: ear ring, then BUT i, had you, KNOW i had

1683
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: a little bracelet like we was like. That we was

1684
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: always infatuated with, it you know WHAT i? Mean so

1685
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: you know WHEN i got, older, man look at.

1686
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 4: Her speaking of the iconic posters and, photos, like what

1687
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 4: what do you think.

1688
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 2: When you right? Here that that that's DOPE i was riding.

1689
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 2: Through he was he was he was coming through you

1690
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 2: in the CART i. TOOK i took somebody cart AND

1691
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: i seen. HIM i seen him coming in like, Man,

1692
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: man that dude had so much respect for each. Other

1693
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: man because we we we've been in some. Wars and

1694
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: the crazy part about, HIM i could never guard, him

1695
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i, mean because he had just shoot

1696
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: over me and take me to the. Post but he

1697
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: was always he always wanted to guard, me you know

1698
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: WHAT i, Mean like he wants he wanted the, beef

1699
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: like he wanted the, challenge you know WHAT i. MEAN

1700
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 2: i used TO i used to, man like, dog you

1701
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 2: cannot do nothing with. Me, man you're too, tall you

1702
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean and he, like all right.

1703
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 3: Whatever because his mama was like my.

1704
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 4: MAMA i lost my mama at, twelve So Mama miles

1705
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 4: was all our. Mama but for me it was special

1706
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 4: because LIKE i really didn't have one at that. Point

1707
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 4: SO i felt like she got a lot of her

1708
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 4: swag with The Mama miles from your. Mama and you,

1709
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 4: know to see this picture, together this was this was.

1710
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 3: Dope this was out in L a.

1711
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: TOO i remember that they both had The Mama miles

1712
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,639
Speaker 1: And mom took.

1713
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: They gonna throw the mom up. There that's the process.

1714
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 2: Today they're gonna throw the mom up. There she that's my, dog.

1715
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: MAN i, mean you know she can she my, Mom

1716
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: she my, friend like my big, Sister she my counselor my.

1717
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: Therapist you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE i go to my,

1718
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: MOM i WANT i want to hear the, truth you

1719
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: know WHAT i? Mean Because, man a person onst supposed

1720
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: to give it to your, kid like like it's you,

1721
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: know it's supposed to be authentic, man, tradition, everything and

1722
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 2: you know one thing about us type of dudes we,

1723
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: are and how we came up and what we did

1724
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: in our career and all. That, man people want to

1725
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: tell you what you want to hear instead of what

1726
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: you need to. Hear, man you know WHAT i. MEAN

1727
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: i don't want nobody around me like. That LIKE i

1728
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: can talk to my homeboys about a situation or talk

1729
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: to my sister or my mom and they'll be, like,

1730
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: man you're. Wrong you know WHAT i. Mean i'm not

1731
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: gonna just tell you what you want to. Hear you?

1732
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 2: Wrong AND i love that about. Them you, KNOW i

1733
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 2: might analyze it a little bit, more but you know

1734
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 2: WHAT i, MEAN i take heat do what they, say,

1735
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: YEAH i wanted to ask, you, like we've seen a

1736
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: few documentaries on, you but this documentary you got a

1737
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: lot more input that you're getting ready to come. OUT i,

1738
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't want you to give all the tea

1739
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: and say.

1740
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: Everything but you're coming up with this new documentary now

1741
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: only you're coming out with. Her you got to help From,

1742
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Shaq you got help From Steph. Curry how is it

1743
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: to do it on your own terms this?

1744
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: Time? Man D, look it's easy to answer a question

1745
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: when somebody asks, You, Like i'm an open. Book i'm

1746
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: comfortable in my own. Skin i've made a lot of

1747
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: mistakes and you, know it's been some ups and downs

1748
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 2: in my. Life so you, KNOW i fear no interview or,

1749
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 2: anything you know WHAT i mean THAT i KNOW i can't.

1750
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 2: Laugh you ask me about my lady or something like

1751
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 2: that and get personal with that, part then you're gonna

1752
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,719
Speaker 2: have a, problem you know WHAT i. Mean, like that's

1753
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: that's what the problem comes. In And i'm not talking

1754
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 2: about the love FOR i have THAT i have for

1755
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: and you know WHAT i, mean who she is to

1756
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: me and all that, like all of that, cool but

1757
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 2: if you asking anything and you, know, yeah just getting too. Deep,

1758
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 2: yeah you know WHAT i, Mean like you're not gonna do.

1759
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 2: That AND i think this documentary is gonna be special

1760
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 2: Because i'm gonna actually feel what all of my family

1761
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: and friends actually, feel you know WHAT i. Mean like

1762
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 2: it's gonna be things that they discussing that they might

1763
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 2: not have never discuss that's with, me about how they

1764
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: felt about a certain, situation you know WHAT i. Mean

1765
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: and THEN i get the opportunity to, see you, know

1766
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: how their feel how did they feel when these events,

1767
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 2: happened you know WHAT i, mean whether they were good or,

1768
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 2: bad and how they handle, them how they handled them with,

1769
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:24,520
Speaker 2: me and then giving some insight on my family, situations

1770
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: like certain family situations that will help other people in their.

1771
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 2: Lives like that was my goal in doing this, One

1772
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 2: LIKE i want to cut no corners with this documentary

1773
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: so other people. Can like, you IF i get one

1774
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: person that takes some for this from this documentary and

1775
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: better their, life you know WHAT i, mean help them

1776
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: win in, life THEN i did my, job you know

1777
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 2: WHAT i. Mean SO i just think me being upfront

1778
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: and personal is WHAT i actually want to, do AND

1779
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 2: i want to do it for my. FANS i want

1780
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: them to see way more than just what they see

1781
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 2: in an interview or you know what they hear ON

1782
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: tv or. Whatever LIKE i want to give them my

1783
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 2: version and give let my family get their version of.

1784
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Me we're in the era, now like even with these,

1785
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: podcasts you're starting to see more of us, talking more

1786
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 1: of us saying our, opinion whether it's sports or whether

1787
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: it's telling our own. Story SO i think it's always

1788
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: dope when you when you do it, yourself because it'd

1789
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: be way more authentic than somebody.

1790
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 2: Else but this is but this is this is. Free

1791
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 2: this is you being. Free like the stuff that we

1792
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 2: were talking about now may or may not be what

1793
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: people want to, hear but we damn show like talking about. It.

1794
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 2: Definitely this is our homeboys supposed to talk, anyway real,

1795
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 2: talk you know WHAT i, Mean like this ain't just

1796
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 2: if we'll talk like. This if you know WHAT i

1797
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: mean to go down just like, this.

1798
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 4: Tell me tell me that it's some like what you're

1799
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 4: speaking on some of the stuff you've experienced and been,

1800
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: through the mistakes you've.

1801
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Made what would like if you.

1802
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 4: Was talking to this year's incoming rookie, class like what

1803
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 4: would you tell them to watch out. For to be

1804
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: cognizant of.

1805
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 2: Man it ain't, easy you know WHAT i. Mean you

1806
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: got to watch out for even the people that you.

1807
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 2: Love protect, yourself you know WHAT i. Mean just because

1808
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 2: you love somebody don't mean they love you the same

1809
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: way LIKE i. MADE i made so many mistakes trusting,

1810
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 2: people you know WHAT i, Mean trusting people that you

1811
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: think supposed to love. You you know WHAT i. Mean i'm

1812
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 2: not talking about friends that you grew up, with whatever

1813
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 2: they you're supposed to be able to trust them, Too

1814
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 2: But i'm talking about even. Family like money is really

1815
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 2: the root of all, evil you know WHAT i. Mean

1816
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 2: And i've just in recent years put the word note

1817
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 2: in my. VOCABULARY i never knew the word no, existed

1818
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean and then you making so much,

1819
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 2: money you think that you can take care of everybody

1820
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 2: and it's gonna last, forever and you're gonna play, forever

1821
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i?

1822
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 4: Mean how important was learning? That like adding that word

1823
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 4: no to your? Vocabulary?

1824
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 2: Though?

1825
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 3: Like how how much peace have you gotten from adding?

1826
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: That BECAUSE i like? Money, NAH i don't like. IT

1827
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: i love. It.

1828
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 3: Nah that's real, Though but you know WHAT i.

1829
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 2: MEAN i love the root of ALL.

1830
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 4: Ei and being able to say but adding, that adding

1831
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 4: that no words your vocabulary has given you more peace

1832
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 4: because being able to say no has stopped destruction from.

1833
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 2: Coming that part learning that word is making people accountable

1834
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: for what they're doing in their. Life you know WHAT i.

1835
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 2: Mean it's it's putting giving them some. Structure it's giving

1836
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: them it's giving them something to think about when they're

1837
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: not doing what they're supposed to, do you know WHAT i.

1838
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 2: Mean and then, no is you not handicapping? Somebody you

1839
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 2: know WHAT i? Mean and it and all and all

1840
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 2: of us heard these, stories especially in uh THE, nba like.

1841
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 3: The pre, drag the rookie, transition all of.

1842
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 2: That and every year and every year you go through,

1843
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 2: that we all heard all of. This and then to

1844
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 2: go in one air and our the other like you're

1845
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 2: not gonna tell me not to take care of my

1846
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 2: such a, session my such a, session this person and

1847
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 2: that person when in, actuality you, know people got to

1848
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 2: understand that you have your own family to take care. Of,

1849
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 2: man you know WHAT i.

1850
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 4: Mean, now that's WHY i feel like it's important for

1851
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 4: the former, players guys has really been through, it to

1852
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 4: be present and available in them transition programs to really

1853
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 4: be able to tell, them like whoever you take with,

1854
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 4: you if they ain't going to school or if they

1855
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 4: ain't setting theyself up to work and be able to

1856
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 4: get their own. Thing like all you doing is creating

1857
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 4: a crutch for. Them situate yourself before you get.

1858
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: There you go to, work and they waiting for you

1859
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: to come home to hang out.

1860
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: With, that ain't?

1861
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 2: It it's? Crazy out of all.

1862
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,600
Speaker 1: The teammates you ever had and you played with in

1863
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: the n B, a if you had to put four

1864
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: more players together to make a super, team who would beat?

1865
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 2: Them four other players make a super? Team like all

1866
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 2: the teammates you ever played? With from all the team

1867
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: TEAMMATES i played, WITH i go With, okay uh me obviously, Mellow.

1868
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 3: Mellow at the, Three mellow at the.

1869
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 2: Three everybody in their prime, Though so you know you

1870
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: don't gotta everybody in their? Prime, yeah BECAUSE i know

1871
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 2: you played with Se well oh Ship, Okay. DAMN i

1872
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 2: LOVE i Love, KENY i Love ken BUT i, mean,

1873
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: yeah it was crazy in his. Prime he was crazy as,

1874
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: hell you know WHAT i? Mean so, Mellow i'm mellow

1875
01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: at the. Three ce dug at the Four damn theo

1876
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 2: or kim Bell Uh kimba had the five and two

1877
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: in their. Prime, yeah everybody in there From James, Stackhouse,

1878
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 2: OH i.

1879
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 4: Forgot about stack. Dollars that's, right your. Rookie he had

1880
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 4: stack and he was having like Stack.

1881
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 1: House, Mellow Chris webber and The. Kimba that's a nice.

1882
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: Five that's going we can win some. Games, yeah that's

1883
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: that's a. Squad we're gonna have a bracket for. That

1884
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,839
Speaker 1: what's your top five signature shoes?

1885
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 2: Man top? Five my own questions answer the ship answer

1886
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 2: for answer, eight answer, one, like, DAMN i don't know

1887
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 2: all my. Joints i'm about to say her little. Month,

1888
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't. KNOW i don't. KNOW i don't know after,

1889
01:37:54,280 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: that but it's like what fourteen? Fifteen, WELL i that

1890
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 2: my new, joints the solutions they.

1891
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 3: Crazy this is WHAT i want to.

1892
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 4: ASK i, KNOW i ain't no telling what you're gonna.

1893
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 4: Say BECAUSE i heard a lot of. STORIES i like to,

1894
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 4: ask like we all, here we all from the. Hood

1895
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 4: we come from humble. Beginnings, Man like when you got that,

1896
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 4: BAG i don't hear about what you did for mama

1897
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 4: because all of us took care of our families and

1898
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 4: did you know got a house to make Show pop's?

1899
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 4: Mom whoever was straight sis and all. That what Did

1900
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 4: Bubba chuck do strictly For Bubba chuck that you could

1901
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 4: look back now like that was probably dumbest. Hell but

1902
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 4: in that moment WHEN i first got, IT i was

1903
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 4: his hell and you felt.

1904
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 3: Great whether it was.

1905
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 2: A caring nothing for, you wanta.

1906
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 4: Nothing, yeah this ain't about white, feet this ain't about

1907
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 4: Fan this is strictly for.

1908
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 2: You WHEN i first got, it So i'm.

1909
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 4: A rookie when that just give me something when you got,

1910
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 4: it whether it was the rookie or the.

1911
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: Next, YEAR i remember something And i'm like this. NOW

1912
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: i remember coming to practice one day AND Dc Darry

1913
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: coleman pulled up g and The Rolls royce AND i was, Like,

1914
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 2: yo what the fuck is? That you know WHAT i?

1915
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Mean BECAUSE i don't know What No Rose RoCE, is

1916
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 2: you know What i'm. SAYING i was, Like, yo what

1917
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 2: is that? Mate that had the drop top joint? Too

1918
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 2: he was, like this is not a, car this is an.

1919
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 2: Automobile AND i was, Like, Yo i'm getting one of them,

1920
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 2: tomorrow you know WHAT i? Mean and next DAY i

1921
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 2: got the drop joint and he was telling. Me he was, like,

1922
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 2: look you know WHAT i. Mean this is what you Do.

1923
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Chuck now he called, me, al this is what you. Do.

1924
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: Al you know WHAT i. Mean you get your Bottle,

1925
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: chris you put on your diamond necklace with no, chain

1926
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 2: no shirt, on and you put your vasace drawers on

1927
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: with your slippers and you ride around all. DAY i was, like,

1928
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: yeah LIKE dc is, crazy because you know that was

1929
01:39:58,600 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 2: when christ.

1930
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 4: WAS i REMEMBER dc og still pulling out the. Christwnn

1931
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 4: he had like so many bottles Of chris. Styles it's, crazy.

1932
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 2: Man he told, me like right when my best friend

1933
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 2: that got killed recipes for Rob bugie But roy got,

1934
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 2: killed Right AND i Was and it was the first

1935
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 2: time THAT i went to the, club LIKE i hadn't

1936
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 2: been out to the club but. Nothing AND dc was,

1937
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: like come, on hour, minutes go, out, man have some. Fun.

1938
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 2: Man he was, like, man you gotta have some. Fun,

1939
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 2: man you gotta you know WHAT i. Mean you ain't

1940
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: gonna get over, it you know WHAT i. Mean but

1941
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 2: you know you can enjoy, yourself, man you know WHAT i.

1942
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 2: Mean he in a better place. Whatever he was kicking

1943
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: all the old school ship to. Me AND i was,

1944
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 2: like all, right let's, go and we went with The.

1945
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: Kimba were in the club AND i was at the

1946
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: bar AND i WAS i was Drinking, chris AND i

1947
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 2: started feeling that. Ship you know WHAT i, MEAN i

1948
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 2: just got. Emotion i'm in the. Crying motherfucker's in there

1949
01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: looking at me and staring at. Me, man MOTHERFUCKER i

1950
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 2: ever sent his motherfucker. Crying we're In. Miami i'm in

1951
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 2: that joint crying LIKE i bent to the bar and

1952
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 2: he hit me on my. Back he, like, man let it,

1953
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 2: out let it. Out he was, like fuck these people in.

1954
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 2: Here and then you, know, everybody what the fuck y'all

1955
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 2: looking At he's just flipping out on, him going. Crazy

1956
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: turn the fuck. Around ship was up. Top that's what

1957
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 2: he used to, Say turn the fuck around FOR i

1958
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: go up top on your, ass you know WHAT i.

1959
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: Mean everybody turning around the. Ship and then he was,

1960
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 2: like you're. Good you let it, Out like, yeah you

1961
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 2: know What i'm. Saying White. Mayes he was, like all,

1962
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 2: right give me ten bottles of criss and, look so

1963
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 2: everybody opened. IT i mean he opened he, said open all.

1964
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: UP i, said why are you opening all?

1965
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 3: Up?

1966
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: Right now he was, like shut the fuck, up open

1967
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 2: all the. Joint he said, him come, on let's go

1968
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 2: get the, kimbae and he sprayed going to the. Club

1969
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 2: motherfuckers again he was, mad it's a MOTHERFUCK i, mean

1970
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: we're soaking, wet and then he had to leave.

1971
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 4: It ask you to fucking say you was about to

1972
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 4: spray The kenby with the.

1973
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Man sprayed is as. Damn we laughed so, hard like you, right,

1974
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: yeah like all, right let's. Party kenby broke the fuck out.

1975
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 2: Left shit was.

1976
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 4: Crazy, hey, Listen i'd be remiss if like we're talking

1977
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 4: about club. Stories you a. Child you didn't get the experience.

1978
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,559
Speaker 4: This when we first went to our first Ever Zoul Summer,

1979
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 4: groove we the young, fellas, right me and him Got Jeff,

1980
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 4: waxler that's A zouls, agent, Right so we didn't just

1981
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 4: come for the. Weekend we flew in like the monday.

1982
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 4: Before we about to be at all the little clinics

1983
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,640
Speaker 4: and the camps during the week with the kids and you,

1984
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 4: know really rocking. Out my, boy he ain't never had

1985
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 4: the chicken, pox. Bro he caught chicken pox during the, Week,

1986
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:51,720
Speaker 4: yo he was fine the whole, week Right thursday Or,

1987
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 4: friday when everything was about to kick, off he gets.

1988
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 3: Sick he's stuck in the. Hotel what was we at

1989
01:42:57,640 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 3: the what was it wasn't a?

1990
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 4: Mutany it was the with the koozies on the fucking

1991
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 4: balcony of every every, Room.

1992
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 3: The, fair The, fairway what was?

1993
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:08,000
Speaker 2: It? Fairway?

1994
01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 4: Mayfair The, mayfair The mayfair And coconut. Grow so he

1995
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 4: stuck this. One you, know we Knew larry since high. School,

1996
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 4: bug so.

1997
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 3: He can't go. Out so it's like me And rio,

1998
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 3: like hey, fuck it were, Like, bug what's going? On you?

1999
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 4: Know he the one who we, like we're trying to

2000
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 4: attach to. Him he the one who's been in this

2001
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 4: shit for a. Minute, like we're gonna go where you?

2002
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 4: Going turned? Out he going out with? You we go

2003
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 4: getting the. Limo now this was only like two three

2004
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 4: weeks after we got. Drafted we ain't had no time

2005
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 4: to go getting on. SHIT i still got a bullshit

2006
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 4: number three. CHAIN i got a diamond. Cut you remember

2007
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,680
Speaker 4: the diamond. CUTS i got a diamond cut three, chain.

2008
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Y'all i'm killing him for deep pat you feel.

2009
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 3: Me we getting in the. Car everything going.

2010
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 4: On everybody get in your, potters get In abe do

2011
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 4: get in you turn out looking at me like you

2012
01:43:59,400 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 4: looked at My he was, like, nah hell you you

2013
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 4: get like.

2014
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 3: That he was, like you talked your, part one of your.

2015
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 4: Part you're, like, man go, upstairs you're talking to get

2016
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 4: so then he come down with your three big.

2017
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:11,800
Speaker 3: Dumb ass diamond out.

2018
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,840
Speaker 4: Three you take that ship off my nigg get into my,

2019
01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 4: part and you put that. One i'm, like, boy from that,

2020
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 4: period that moment on AND i was. HIM i was motherfucking.

2021
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 4: HIM i ain't know how much money that chain. Calls i'm, like,

2022
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 4: BITCH i got about fifty thousand.

2023
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 3: MORE i capt. Saying i'm sitting there, like look, Boy

2024
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 3: i'm talking all kinds of.

2025
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Ship that's. CRAZY i remember that.

2026
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 3: Night we was crazy crazy And i'm talking ABOUT i

2027
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 3: don't know that. Ship hey, listen DID i know you like?

2028
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 3: Us like you know What i'm. Saying we.

2029
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 4: Big we're still huge fans of the game right, now

2030
01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 4: like who?

2031
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 3: Who who is some of the dudes you love to

2032
01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 3: watch right now.

2033
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 4: That you were, like, legit pay a ticket to go

2034
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 4: See Luca Luca luca.

2035
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 2: And, Man.

2036
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for one Name.

2037
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,639
Speaker 2: Kyrie dame.

2038
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 4: M. B.

2039
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: MAXIE i Know i'm. Tripping uh.

2040
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 3: What about s G.

2041
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 2: A oh my, god that's the response is crazy? Response

2042
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 2: sha is? Crazy oh my, god He Shae. MAN i

2043
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:43,440
Speaker 2: LIKE i like his uh His robin.

2044
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 3: Oh j do that little boy gonna be? CALLED i

2045
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 3: like gonna be.

2046
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 2: NICE i Love, Tatum god, DAMN i love. Him. MAN

2047
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: i remember that's crazy when he was a little baby

2048
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 2: man yellow baby. Man Damn i'm. Old oh, MAN i

2049
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 2: Love brunson.

2050
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 3: Crazy he.

2051
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 2: Crazy. MAN i pay to See that's how incredible all league.

2052
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 2: Is Man like for, real. CUE i pay to see

2053
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: every team play because it's somebody on every team that's,

2054
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 2: crazy that get. Busy so me just naming you know

2055
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:28,080
Speaker 2: WHAT i, mean BECAUSE i Know i'm a. MISS i

2056
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 2: Know i'm a. Miss. H i pay to see probably

2057
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 2: every team because every team got got a dog on.

2058
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 4: It, obviously, recently you just got immortalized with The sixers

2059
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 4: with your very own statue to go along with all

2060
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 4: the rest of The philly.

2061
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 3: Grets, man how was that?

2062
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 4: Moment and just to know that you're gonna be, immortalized

2063
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 4: and you know What i'm, saying you live forever. Here

2064
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 4: this is, like you know What i'm, Saying no matter

2065
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 4: what you're gonna be a monument In philly.

2066
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 2: Forever. Man LIKE i said in the, beginning there's a

2067
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 2: tribute to everybody that helped me become WHO i am

2068
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: from top to. Bottom and it's a. Sculpture it's not a.

2069
01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Statue thank.

2070
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 3: You you're glad you cleared that. Up you knew what

2071
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 3: it was because everybody was.

2072
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:21,040
Speaker 2: It's all, good but in our. Defense and WHEN i say,

2073
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 2: OUR i mean The. Sixes we don't own the, stadium

2074
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean in the new, joint then

2075
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,759
Speaker 2: they can you, Know like one of my homeboys twe

2076
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: was telling my man with the, organization, like, yo y'all

2077
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 2: need to put out a statement for these people because

2078
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 2: they don't like. It.

2079
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 3: Misconceptions, yeah they.

2080
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 2: Don't like how small it, is you know WHAT i.

2081
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 4: Mean only some people really knew it wasn't an overall.

2082
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: Yeah you know WHAT i, Mean, like y'all got to

2083
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: clear that, up you, know because people was like coming

2084
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 2: at me, crazy and, man the statue was supposed to

2085
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: be bigger than. That and you, know they got a

2086
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,560
Speaker 2: Fake rocky character and he got a big, statue you know.

2087
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 2: Whatever AND i was, like, man you Know i'm gonna

2088
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 2: have one one. Day at the, arena and they was, like,

2089
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,840
Speaker 2: well they need to put it somewhere else In philadelphia,

2090
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 2: there you know WHAT i, Mean like this ain't gonna,

2091
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 2: work you. Know AND i, mean AND i was trying

2092
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 2: to explain to people, like, man it's at the practice, facility.

2093
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 2: Man and just the fact THAT i can be in

2094
01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 2: a line with all those, greats you know WHAT i,

2095
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 2: mean that's out. There LIKE i was humble by, it

2096
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 2: AND i was you, KNOW i was cool with, it you,

2097
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 2: know just.

2098
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 3: Misunderstanding.

2099
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 4: MAN i, think like you, said if everybody would have known,

2100
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 4: initially it would have been a lot less backlash and

2101
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 4: all of.

2102
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:38,519
Speaker 3: That and it wouldn't have been such a.

2103
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 2: Lightning lightning shouldn't have never been, that shouldn't have kept

2104
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 2: calling it a, statue you know WHAT i, Mean like

2105
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 2: a sculpture is totally, different you know WHAT i. Mean

2106
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:52,639
Speaker 2: and then it didn't help that everybody else is doing

2107
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 2: something stretched, out you know WHAT i. Mean and Then

2108
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 2: i'm doing the, crossover you know WHAT i. Mean so

2109
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 2: and then you KNOW i ain't the tallest dude in the.

2110
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 4: World so, NAH i mean now that once we understood,

2111
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 4: it it was all.

2112
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 3: Good once we once.

2113
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 4: You understood, it but like initially was like it's just, disrespect.

2114
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 3: But then it was like kind of laid, out but like.

2115
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 2: It it's won't a disrespect because the Legendary, yeah it's

2116
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,560
Speaker 2: a legendary. Ennomy you know.

2117
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 3: What that's forever for, sure that's.

2118
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 4: Whatever that's a, sculpture what do you want to, say, sculpture, statue,

2119
01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 4: Whatever it's forever and it's it's.

2120
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 2: MAD i love them FOR i loved them for doing

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