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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, presented by

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Speaker 1: Brown's on a fifty ESD and Cleveland You are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I would do it live on a football Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily, merely bow the great z the

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Speaker 2: sun is out. I felt like I could have worre shorts.

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Speaker 2: I know it's in the thirties, but because of where

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Speaker 2: we've been the last couple of days, it felt like

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Speaker 2: sixty degrees getting out of the car walking over today.

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Speaker 3: Buddy really did, yes, but it hurts me to hear

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Speaker 3: you say these things. There are discussions very similar to

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Speaker 3: this going on Cafe to let you have like Stockholm syndrome.

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Speaker 3: Do you think anybody Yes, you think anybody in Florida's like,

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Speaker 3: oh man, let's go where it's thirty and sunny, acting

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Speaker 3: like it's ball me out. It's a what approval to

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Speaker 3: live in this weather? No, this is still garbage.

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Speaker 2: Unless we somehow take our fair city and transport it

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Speaker 2: to New Mexico or Arizona. This is as good as

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Speaker 2: it gets. Brother, this is Apex January, Ohio. Right here,

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Speaker 2: you're looking at it. Sun kiss, bluebird, thirty degrees. Take

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Speaker 2: the kids, tuban, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Well that sounds great.

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Speaker 2: You get all the snow in the world for its.

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Speaker 4: NBC able to tubers. He have to be.

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Speaker 2: It's been a rough stretch.

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Speaker 4: How could it not be, Dude, it's brutal. This is

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Speaker 4: zapped him of the things that he enjoys, loves the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Uh. Cast comes off Monday, Monday morning at

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Speaker 2: like eight.

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Speaker 4: So it hasn't been that long, uh for five weeks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not familiar with cast durations, but it

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Speaker 3: feels like it's coming in cast durations.

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Speaker 4: Sounded like cast rations. Yeah. No, I'm not familiar with

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Speaker 4: those either.

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Speaker 2: I am. I've seen that done well you too many

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Speaker 2: account did grow up on a farm and it's just

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Speaker 2: a rubber band and then it's it just falls off.

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Speaker 4: I guess day with those greyhounds that ended up having

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Speaker 4: the fakes.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right, the fake.

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Speaker 3: The fakes, the fakes. You didn't see that coming. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know what a duration like, how long

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Speaker 3: you're in a cast for. Un Fortunately, as a kid,

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Speaker 3: I never had a cast.

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Speaker 2: That's what I told him. I said, I navigated life

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Speaker 2: without ever being in a cast. And you're you can

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Speaker 2: tell him me too, and uncle ze too and yet

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Speaker 2: and we're for you are and here you are. You

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Speaker 2: already have it seems like a you problem to me.

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Speaker 4: But oh, he's going to be out. And once he's out,

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Speaker 4: is he good to go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can play right away. So he's been running

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Speaker 2: on the treadmill and he's got going. It's left hand,

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Speaker 2: so and he dribbles a lot with his left so

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Speaker 2: that'll be it's a guide hand on the shot.

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Speaker 4: But just he's he likes to go left. Yeah, a

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Speaker 4: lot of that, A little one hand shooting, Yeah, a

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Speaker 3: You should have jumper like a name Michael Adams with

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Speaker 3: that little he had the hitch one hander was a

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Speaker 3: one handed push.

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Speaker 2: That was a beautiful thing of that era of basketball.

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Speaker 2: Is it was like the last era where there wasn't

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Speaker 2: like shot doctors.

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Speaker 4: It's all cookie cutter.

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Speaker 2: You just shot the way that you learned how to

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Speaker 2: shoot the great Larome. That's you're Bill cart right right there. Sure,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you got Michael Adam shot the way Larry

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Speaker 2: Bird shot over his you know it is here, you know,

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Speaker 2: and that's how that was. Like everybody, Magic Johnson ship

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Speaker 2: was like a shot. Kevin Duckworth had a little like yeah,

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Speaker 2: from all sorts of different shots. But even like through

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Speaker 2: the early nineties, like Nick van Exell had a little

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Speaker 2: exception of Lebron pretty much shoots some form of what's

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Speaker 2: the way Steph does with it, and that's how they

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Speaker 4: Chris Malla was kind of in there back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was pretty pure.

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Speaker 4: You had uh DROs and was pure. Purvis Purvis short.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you're never nervous.

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Speaker 4: Pervis Ellison some rainbows up from the top of his head.

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Speaker 4: A Terry Tiegle. Terry had a nice shot, a nice shot.

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Speaker 2: Terry Porter did not no.

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Speaker 4: But he was good.

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Speaker 4: You don't really have those kind of guys anymore either.

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Speaker 2: The Dennis Johnson Terry Porter like just like kind of

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Speaker 4: Ones Gamy, Yeah, I guess sugs and.

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Speaker 2: Mark Jackson was probably the last kind of like that.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen enough to know. I remember him at Gonzaga.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't that at Gonzaga. I don't know what he's

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Speaker 4: He's not a great shooter. They got they got my

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Speaker 4: guy band Cara your boy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're in the first first floor of the fan club.

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Speaker 3: Oh if the league was disbanded today and I could

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Speaker 3: have one guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's my first pick.

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Speaker 2: He's your first pick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Sga is pretty good too, But give me bank Caro.

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Speaker 2: He's good, He's very good. What else I want to

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Speaker 2: discuss with you today? Wait, he looks like you have

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Speaker 2: something that I do.

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Speaker 4: I do have things.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, let's go. I want to do years and

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Speaker 2: then we'll save it.

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Speaker 3: So I was with my boys Ashen last night and

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Speaker 3: we were the c plus z, Yeah, the killer Z's Killers.

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Speaker 3: We were discussing a great many things, one of which

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Speaker 3: was Landman. He loves it, says we just it's is

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Speaker 3: he all the way through? He is almost all the

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Speaker 3: way through? I am, I'm trailing him. I know you're

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Speaker 3: fully done. Yep, great, did you dip in any more?

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Speaker 4: Penguin?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't able to last night, and I had I

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Speaker 2: had sports I had to watch last night.

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Speaker 4: So it's just so it's it's just it's it's great.

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Speaker 3: We he agreed with me that the notion that these

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Speaker 3: guys are going to beat up his son, yeah, in

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Speaker 3: a confined area and then leave him there, right like,

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Speaker 4: That would really be your only chance.

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Speaker 2: Now even still, you'd get sought out and found and

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Speaker 2: the rest would happen for sure. I think my piece

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Speaker 2: with all the Taylor Sheridan shows, you really don't think

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Speaker 2: too hard about them. And what I mean by that

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Speaker 2: is in terms of, like this action elicits this reaction,

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Speaker 2: and this happened here, so then this can't happen here.

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Speaker 2: Oftentimes what happens here has no bearing on what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen here. Correct in the Taylor Sheridan world, No,

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Speaker 2: you're not held accountable for something to happen five episodes ago.

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Speaker 2: It may have happened in a closet and then you'll

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Speaker 2: never hear of it again. So that's one thing that

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Speaker 2: I've known, so just kind of that's why from a

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Speaker 2: week to I'm curious, like with on a binge, how

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Speaker 2: we'k well it's working because week to week, like sometimes

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Speaker 2: you'll forget some things from the previous week. So we

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Speaker 2: were watching them live. I guess they're watching them Mondays

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Speaker 2: slate every week. I mean there's continuation, but sure you

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Speaker 2: know it was. So I think he's landed. It's and

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Speaker 2: he's got the perfect marriage of actor and material. It's

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Speaker 2: much like the Costner Yellowstone, like when they landed Costner

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Speaker 2: to play that role in Yellowstone, like that ah that

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Speaker 2: sofies built for him, and I think this is built

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Speaker 4: What I want to know is, and maybe I I'm

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Speaker 4: wrong about it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe she's been way more, much busier than perhaps I thought. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but like, where has Ali Larter been? Because she is

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Speaker 3: phenomenal in it and it really looks like her kind

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Speaker 3: of like where she was in stuff wrapped up in

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Speaker 3: the early two thousands.

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Speaker 2: Well, what is what has she been in? Like after

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Speaker 2: Varsity Blues? What would I know that she's been in.

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Speaker 3: So she was in I don't know how big of

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Speaker 3: a part she's in All the Resident Evils, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how big of a part she was in

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Speaker 3: Final Destinations, Legally Blonde. She was in Legally Blonde? Who

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Speaker 3: was she in legally Blonde?

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Speaker 2: Is she one of the big bads? I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I've ever seen legally Blonde?

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Speaker 4: Like not in Honestly, she's just not in anything that

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Speaker 4: looks like looks like she plays brook in Legally Blonde.

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Speaker 4: I don't know which ones.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: She was in a show called Heroes, Okay, I remember

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Speaker 3: that Hayden panther. She was Nicky Sanders, so she had

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Speaker 4: But that ended in twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: Man, so pretty quiet last decade.

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Speaker 4: Incredibly quiet last decade. She was in a show.

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Speaker 3: Called The Rookie, which was on ABC. But she's not

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Speaker 3: even on the poster, so I'm guessing she just made

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Speaker 4: The Man in the White Van. Have you ever heard that. No,

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Speaker 4: I have not thriller, suspense, storry.

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Speaker 3: I mean she's in so no, this is this is

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Speaker 3: a huge comeback for her, huge comeback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: like married. She's married to another actor comedian guy, and

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Speaker 2: so I didn't know if maybe she just like went

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Speaker 2: off the grid to raise kids and I'll see you back.

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Speaker 2: But she's back now, baby.

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Her parents are Margaret and Dan Forth Larder.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, then it feels like that would she's substantial.

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Speaker 4: It feels if you're still rolling as Dan Forth and

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Speaker 4: are not just Dan at the point where you're in

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Speaker 4: your sixties, you've done very well.

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Speaker 2: You've done well. Yeah, right, I would think I think

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Speaker 2: you probably have a fair read on that. Yeah, if

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Speaker 2: you're still rocking a Dan fourth.

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Speaker 4: If you're still going by Dan Forth, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels like it. How about when uh Dowan

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Speaker 2: having that that's like a thing, And it occurred to

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Speaker 2: me that how did he not see that? But then

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Speaker 2: I realized that was out in like the mid nineties.

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Speaker 2: But then I thought to myself.

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Speaker 3: I remember ninety three my friend Yeah, yeah, Dwan Jones,

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Speaker 2: I thought that that would be something that would kind

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you actually did the the it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so have you had him? They watched Friday Night

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so whatever, So.

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Speaker 4: I think that they fully realized that we have two.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, in Washington.

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Speaker 3: But you could still have had that be on. You

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Speaker 3: My guess is that it's drafted as follows that it's

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Speaker 4: So then all you had to do was just place thirty.

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Speaker 2: I get why they did it from a TV.

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Speaker 4: If I would have just done them on the same day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do it on the same day, and it's not

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's I mean, Kansas City could

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Speaker 4: I think it's a one seed. I think it's a

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Speaker 4: I have to go back and look last year. What

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Speaker 2: But the key would be what's the Saturday night the

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Speaker 3: So on Saturday was Packers at Niners and Texans at Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's maybe that is Maybe it's the one.

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Speaker 2: The one. No, Detroit was the two last year, weren't

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Detroit was the three, Tampa was the four. H

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Speaker 2: Oh so that's why seven played one? Yep?

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Speaker 4: Okay, and the Bucks beat the Eagles. Yes, they did

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Speaker 4: Yeah, head stage plus yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's usually an upset. There's usually something you didn't foresee.

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Speaker 2: There are two big numbers in these games, and I

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Speaker 3: Would rank them Eagles, Lions and then Big Gap Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I'm higher on the commanders than I think many.

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Speaker 2: You're higher on the commanders than the folks in the desert.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, significantly, so, yeah, significantly.

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Speaker 2: I thought you you guessed you were like at three

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Chiefs are losing that game. I

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Speaker 4: which would make as much as I do like the Commanders,

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Speaker 4: I still want the Lions to win the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Like that's if if I'm rooting just as a fan,

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Speaker 4: If you do.

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Speaker 3: I would go Lions. I might go Lions, Rams Commi's Eagles.

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Speaker 3: There's something about that Rams team that is that's fun.

442
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: I just respect the heck out of them. They went

443
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 2: all in to win a Super Bowl. They had no

444
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: draft picks, so they had to hit on the ones

445
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: that they did have, and they crushed them and they

446
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: stayed in the mix. Yeah, and are in the postseason

447
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: regularly with a team where it should have been like

448
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 2: I mean there were people saying, all right, trade Stafford, Tank,

449
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 2: trade them to Miami and Tank like all of that.

450
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Speaker 3: Well, here they are here, they are here, they are man.

451
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Speaker 3: So those would be my favorites. And then on the

452
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Speaker 3: AFC side, from a rootings just pure rooting standpoint, yeah.

453
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Speaker 2: I mean Buffalo.

454
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Speaker 4: I think Buffalo would be one, Baltimore would be two,

455
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Speaker 4: Kansas City three, and Houston four. Houston no rooting, zero rout.

456
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Speaker 2: I'm not rooting for the Ravens. I don't need to

457
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Speaker 2: see another Super Bowl over there.

458
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Speaker 3: Now that you know what I kind of I like

459
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Speaker 3: and we're out of it obviously. It's kind of like

460
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Speaker 3: sometimes teams, you know, in the Big Ten route for

461
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: the other Big Ten teams and bowls. You know, it's

462
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: like you're this is a representative of your conference. I

463
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Speaker 3: also think it. You know, Lamar has put in the

464
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Speaker 3: work and is singularly great, and the one thing he

465
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Speaker 3: doesn't have is a super Bowl appearance on his resume,

466
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Speaker 3: and I think he it's a.

467
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Speaker 4: Very team game.

468
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Speaker 3: I think it'd be Derrick Henry, you know, Monkin, we know,

469
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: you know, Sashi Brown, Simon. We like we have more Simon.

470
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Speaker 3: Maybe Simoon at that point would actually make good. Maybe

471
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Speaker 3: when he gets you.

472
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Speaker 2: You want even to get a visual of that guy

473
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Speaker 2: walking around with a ring.

474
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Speaker 4: I would like him to he'd wear it like a necklace.

475
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Speaker 4: I'd like him to.

476
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Speaker 3: Compensate us for our free dinner. And I feel like

477
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 3: maybe a Super Bowl bonus would do that.

478
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: For sem No, I don't think it would. I think

479
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: he would give us some sort of a gift certificate

480
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Speaker 2: to some sort of Boston or a Baltimore restaurant he's

481
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: probably out, would go.

482
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Speaker 4: Now, we would probably send us some swag which we

483
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 4: would throw away.

484
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Speaker 2: Burn gibe, burn it no buff. I understand all that

485
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: from that, Yeah, I just I can't. But I understand

486
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 2: the purpose the rooting for them. I don't have anything

487
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 2: against the Texans, and I like CJ a lot. By

488
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: the way, Chris Simms, what they do to you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're aware or not, but a

490
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Speaker 3: lot of these things that have gone wrong with us

491
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: originated with a deal made with the Houston tex.

492
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Speaker 2: Oh I'm well aware of that.

493
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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I just didn't their successes at all.

494
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, the team you just put ahead

495
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: of them, actually took the team.

496
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Speaker 4: Well, there's some ties here. They literally took the team.

497
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Speaker 4: Ozzie Newsom is a fine man. I've got to spend

498
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: some time with him. He's great. Hanford's best friend.

499
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Speaker 2: Chris Simms was pretty adamant this week about what people

500
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Speaker 2: have wrong on CJ versus his struggles this year compared

501
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Speaker 2: to what he was a year ago. And what he

502
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Speaker 2: was pretty adamant about was that the protection has been

503
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Speaker 2: so bad and the plan with that protection has been

504
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: so bad that that has created what has happened.

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Speaker 4: That's part of it.

506
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Speaker 3: But I mean I watched him miss a billion easy

507
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 3: throws this year, just miss which is wild. Yeah, I

508
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: think that there is a lot of as good as

509
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 3: as as hot a name as Bobby Slowk was last year.

510
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: He's getting a lot of grief and blame based on

511
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Speaker 3: those things. What you were talking about, Yeah, Sims was

512
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Speaker 3: pretty adamant about it.

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Speaker 2: One other thing, let's we'll close up on this and

514
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: we'll get to the man who the shoe Bert this

515
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: show from his Loins college football college.

516
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Speaker 3: There's starting from now on when I hear college football,

517
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: expect Nate to come after it.

518
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Speaker 4: So I was, I don't know where I was getting nervous.

519
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay this out for you. This

520
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: is the college Football Playoff needs to have for next

521
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Speaker 2: year to fix this.

522
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Speaker 4: This game you play.

523
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Speaker 2: You play the quarterfinal games on the Thursday and Friday,

524
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: December eleventh, twelfth. You can even play the thirteenth because

525
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: the NFL can't play that weekend yet. So that's your quarterfinals.

526
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: You then play your what.

527
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 4: About Thursday night on and then are you running to

528
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 4: Thursday night football? Then just do it the twelfth and thirteenth.

529
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Speaker 4: That's why I'm here.

530
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Speaker 2: The following weekend, you play the court. Sorry, that's the

531
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Speaker 2: first round. The quarterfinals are the following weekend on Friday

532
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Speaker 2: night and Saturday night. So that would be the one

533
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Speaker 2: where you'd have to say the NFL. I would even

534
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Speaker 2: go Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And if you have to compete

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Speaker 2: with the NFL on Thursday, fine, but I would get

536
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Speaker 2: two on that Friday. I'd play a game at six

537
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Speaker 2: and one at nine thirty East Coast West Coast away.

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Speaker 4: You go.

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00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: That's your quarterfinals. Your semifinals are then New Year's Eve

540
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: and New Year's Day, or you can play in both

541
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Speaker 2: New Year' Day if you want, which is a Wednesday,

542
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: and that gives you about ten days between games, and

543
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: then the National Championship Game is played on Friday, January ninth, Friday,

544
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: leading in to the wild card weekend in the NFL.

545
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: It is in the sense an opera teeth for the

546
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Speaker 2: main course that is the NFL. Instead of trying to

547
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: do this on a Monday, January twentieth, this whole thing's

548
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: done eleven days sooner. It's a rap because they're as

549
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: big as it is, and the ratings will be a monster.

550
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: You on ESPN's homepage right now, it's not even on

551
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: the main front of the homepage because it's all NFL.

552
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: That's all they're talking about. Yeah, they missing out, and

553
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: there's an easy calendar to make it done, and they

554
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: need to do it for next year. It's ridiculous. If

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: this game is not gonna be played until Monday, it

556
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: should have been. We should have been played ten days ago.

557
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: We could have this thing wrapped up. So I think

558
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: what college football ought to do. I spend a great

559
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Speaker 2: deal of the morning campaigning for this is is they

560
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: need to own Friday nights in December and early January.

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Speaker 2: Other than New Year's even New Year's Day, you play

562
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Speaker 2: them there and that's the time that it's played. Other

563
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Speaker 2: than that, take advantage of these Friday nights. It's a

564
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Speaker 2: nice little lead into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's perfect and if even if you are going to

566
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Speaker 3: keep it this week, it needed to be played on Friday.

567
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Speaker 3: And it's just the bottom line, it's silliness, craziness.

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Speaker 4: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They have to get it done sooner though, because you

570
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: have classes. And I know that that, No, I don't

571
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: need to be on Suoner'm saying this year, even though

572
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: they should have played it today. Yes, yes, they should

573
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Speaker 2: have versus. And I know that that's that old kind

574
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Speaker 2: of adage that like nobody watches on TV on Fridays,

575
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Speaker 2: But I think that's long in the rear view mirror.

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Speaker 2: I think once HBO started putting their best shows on

577
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: like Sunday at nine o'clock or Sunday at ten, and

578
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 2: everybody followed it because it was great. It kind of

579
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: proved that if you're great, people will watch it.

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Speaker 3: People find it, and they'll find it. Another quest, I

581
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: have a why is it that? And correct me if

582
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. They still do this, but I think they do.

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Speaker 3: Isn't the Final Four still always on a Saturday and

584
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Speaker 3: then Saturday Monday. Why are the two biggest championships that

585
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 3: collegiate sports have to offer played on a Monday night.

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: It's nonsense.

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00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: That should be Friday.

588
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: I think it was the old I think it was

589
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Speaker 2: the old thing where I think it's what I said,

590
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Speaker 2: like people stayed away from nobody wanted to play Fridays.

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Speaker 4: They should have. Nobody have Final Four on Friday and

592
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Speaker 4: the thing on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree.

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Speaker 4: People watch the tournament every day whenever it is, whenever

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Speaker 4: it is, and now it starts on like a Tuesday

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Speaker 4: with playing games. People watch, people.

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Speaker 2: I know Buffalo is used to these games, but this

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Speaker 2: feels like a lot Sunday night in Buffalo. What's kind

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Speaker 7: Yeah, while the temperature is a lot warmer than the

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Speaker 7: air temperature, I'll say that, although it's pretty bomby thirty

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Speaker 7: four right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we got not bad, but yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's intense. So I had a speaking engagement this morning,

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Speaker 7: was a breakfast gathering very early this morning, and for

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Speaker 7: seven thirty in the morning, these people were fired up.

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Speaker 7: And I'm telling you, the vibe is like I've not

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Speaker 7: seen it in a while, even with this team having

625
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Speaker 7: been on this in this so called Super Bowl window

626
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: for multiple years, but there's just something different about where

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Speaker 7: it stands now and you can sense it.

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Speaker 3: Is Josh Allen the Tories, and it is pleasure to

629
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Speaker 3: speak with you as always is is Josh Allen the

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Speaker 3: MVP in your eyes?

631
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Speaker 4: This year?

632
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Speaker 3: I know Lamar has been sensational and he's a two

633
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: time winner, but is this the year that Josh Allen

634
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Speaker 3: has had to really lift everything around him?

635
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I feel I blew through the pleasantries here.

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Speaker 7: It's great to be back with you guys.

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Speaker 4: It's the best always. I mean this is you're locked in.

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Speaker 4: You're playing in the divisional round at home against the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: You're locked in. Right now, we can banter, we can

641
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: have fun, you're locked in.

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Speaker 8: I've got a little bit of a game face on

643
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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 5: It's good, but it's but it's always great to go.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's always going.

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Speaker 7: Home with you guys. All right, Yes, Josh Allen, let's

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Speaker 7: talk about that. Because I am an MV you know,

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Speaker 7: a voter the AP channel for All Pro and MVP

649
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Speaker 7: and the other individual honors, we're admonished not to reveal

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Speaker 7: how we voted for any of those individual awards until

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Speaker 7: they're announced, of course. Has February sixth, in New Orleans

652
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Speaker 7: at the Honors show. But I'm going to give you

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Speaker 7: any I'm going to give you an answer. I mean,

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Speaker 7: in terms of how I see this, the body of work,

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Speaker 7: you know, each it feels like you want to talk

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Speaker 7: about taking temperature on a weekly basis. This thing, as

657
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Speaker 7: you know, just went back and forth like a ping

658
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Speaker 7: pong ball and in a wild intense game of ping

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Speaker 7: pong or anything that involves tenn as you name it,

660
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 7: back and forth. And I've never felt that debate on

661
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 7: a national scale become as intense as this one did

662
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 7: because of the weekly accomplishments of these guys. Josh had

663
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 7: made his case. I thought started making his case in October.

664
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 7: It felt more like even though his numbers obviously for

665
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 7: the year are stronger, but Lamar's case came on in

666
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 7: the latter stretch, right. It had that feeling that it

667
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 7: was more late November and then through the final month

668
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 7: of the or most of the final month of the

669
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 7: regular season, final weeks that his case was made. And

670
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 7: of course he played a full season. Josh played one

671
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 7: snap of the set of the seventeenth game for the

672
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 7: obvious reasons against New England. And I don't think that

673
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 7: disparity has anything to do with anything, including the numbers.

674
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 7: It's what your value is to your team. That's how

675
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 7: I judge this.

676
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 8: In Josh's case, it's it was clear to me that

677
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 8: he had to.

678
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 7: Make up much more of the ground and in terms

679
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: of what he had now he's not surrounded by a

680
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 7: bunch of bumps.

681
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 8: It's a it's a good it's a good roster, it's

682
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 8: a really good roster.

683
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 7: But Josh Allen's presence elevates as the franchise quarterback should

684
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson elevates, but elevated I think, in many cases

685
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 7: more talent and obvious in the obvious case of Derrick Henry,

686
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 7: that dimension that the Bills don't have. But I'll tell

687
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 7: you what, James Cook is no slouches or running back,

688
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 7: as you guys know, and and that's why these are

689
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 7: fine line comparisons. All the way through the voters I

690
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 7: thought had a very tough job.

691
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: I voted.

692
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 7: Because this has been announced, I can tell you I

693
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 7: voted Josh as my first team All Pro. Lamar was

694
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 7: my second team All Pro. The final result was Lamar

695
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 7: by just under double the amount of first place votes

696
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 7: to get that first team. A lot of people will

697
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 7: tell you that history shows the first team guy usually

698
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 7: gets MVP, and that may work out this case. Last

699
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 7: thing I'll say is on this subject is this, Whoever

700
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 7: wins it deserves it. Whoever finished second deserves it, and

701
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: all even go as farst whoever's third was certainly a consideration,

702
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 7: and there just might be a different view of value

703
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 7: two team versus.

704
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 8: All pro.

705
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: Well said, sir, verywell, all those frontsly surprising thing ever,

706
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: but that that does. Yeah, that's the thing that is

707
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: kind of the nuance of selecting the MVP. Obviously, both

708
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: of those guys would trade any sort of MVP for

709
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: an actual Super Bowl championship. Baltimore looks like a behemoth

710
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: coming into this thing. What they've done offensively, They are

711
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: such a buzz so it seems like TOMVIC when they

712
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: start going downhill. But the only other team in the

713
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: league when they start going downhill like them is Detroit,

714
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: where it can turn into a white out, whitewash and

715
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: a hurry. Buffalo kind of sometimes has been the same

716
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: in terms of the sense of urgency around this group

717
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: of Buffalo Bills. Where is it heading into this one

718
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: on Sunday with all that's on the line.

719
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, of course we go back to Week four

720
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 7: and how that downhill thing you're talking about was an

721
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 7: avalanche that the Bills did not survive in Baltimore, and

722
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 7: it was Derrick Henry from the very start just blowing

723
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 7: them up for eighty plus on the touchdown run and

724
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 7: the whole day it was a sense of retreat.

725
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: Now, that was a.

726
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 7: Buffalo defense missing some very key parts, Matt Mulono being

727
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 7: one of those. And then also at linebacker, you're looking

728
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 7: at a team that didn't have Terrell Bernard, although he's

729
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 7: not the best run stopper, but again, two starting linebackers

730
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 7: gone and nickelback who a pro bowler he has been

731
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 7: in Taron Johnson, I think those any place does some

732
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 7: box work as well. I think those components returning can

733
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 7: make a difference, But it has to start up front.

734
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: The game has still got to be one in the

735
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 7: middle of the line against the behemoth that is Dereck Henry,

736
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 7: and if they get that going again, sure it'll be

737
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 7: a problem. What I see differently though this time, is

738
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 7: Buffalo's offensive evolvement since that game. They never really got

739
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 7: in any rhythm, never got the passing game going the

740
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 7: way it should and I believe the best way. And

741
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 7: I still see you guys know this Ravens team better

742
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 7: than I do. The vulnerability that's on the back end

743
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 7: there and the way that you attack them has challenge them.

744
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 7: And and I think Josh, you know who certainly can

745
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 7: do Josh Allen can do that. If you're if you're

746
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 7: going up against one of the best quarterbacks in the game,

747
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 7: you're you're gonna expect that guy is going to make

748
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: some place. Now, he doesn't have a plethora of top level.

749
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 8: Game players game breakers, but he's got enough in that receiving.

750
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 7: Corps that that spreads it out that can.

751
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 8: Attack you at all levels.

752
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 7: And you know Khalil Shakir in the slot, and Matt

753
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 7: Collins can come up with the occasional play that he'll

754
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: make near the goal line. And then you know, Kean Coleman,

755
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 7: while not a sterling rookie year, is still going to

756
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 7: win some fifty to fifty balls and and and then

757
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 7: the running backs cook and we'll see about Ray Davis

758
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 7: stolen concussion protocol might not see him go.

759
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 8: But the tight end game.

760
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 7: Of course, is one that they can with Dawson Knox

761
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 7: uh and and you know the way they they can

762
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 7: I think attack with and Dalton and Kate the way

763
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 7: they can attack with those two again in intermediate routes.

764
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: But you know, it's one of these teams that's been

765
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 7: so weird, guys. You look up at the end of it,

766
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 7: it doesn't feel like this offense is doing anything great.

767
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 7: And then they set this record.

768
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 5: For thirty, you know, thirty touchdowns.

769
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 7: Through the air, thirty touchdowns of the ground, and they're

770
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 7: making NFL history and Josh is making an NFL history

771
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 7: And it's not like you said, oh god, wow, I

772
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 7: can't believe with my eyes just saw. But it's that gradual,

773
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 7: steady plotting thing. You looked up in that Denver game

774
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 7: last week. It was forty one minutes of possession time

775
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 7: to eighteen minutes for Denver.

776
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 8: That just blood and dry. They couldn't with a rookie quarterback.

777
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 7: They couldn't handle that. So I don't and a lot

778
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 7: of that was short passing, not just running. I think

779
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 7: in this game, if they're out to the early lead,

780
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 7: if they can hit you know, hit enough of those

781
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 7: plays through the air, that's problematic for Baltimore because Baltimore's

782
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 7: best road to victory is still on the it's still

783
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 7: running the football. It's still on the ground and as

784
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 7: it should be. But I don't know that that helps

785
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 7: you if you're it's if it's not eighty yard break runs,

786
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 7: which you don't often see versus a steady diet of

787
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 7: five or six or seven or eight yard runs.

788
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: Vick, we have to ask yet, because last year Amari

789
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: Cooper gave us some of the greatest moments, set the

790
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: franchise record for most receiving yards in a single game,

791
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: over two hundred and fifty down in Houston on Christmas Eve.

792
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 3: He was awesome, and I know his year didn't start

793
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: off great here, but I gotta tell you, when the

794
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Bills made that trade and Brown's got a third rounder,

795
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: Bill's got Amari Cooper, I thought it was going to

796
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: be good for us. We're going to need the picks,

797
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: and I thought it was going to be great for

798
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: Amar and the Bills. I thought he was going to

799
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: be the top target. I thought he was going to

800
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 3: be one hundred yards a game, you know, a thousand

801
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 3: yard receiver, all of those things. It has not materialized.

802
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: And in fact, in the last game i've looked, I

803
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: think he ran the fifth most routes among all the

804
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 3: wide receivers on the roster. What's happened with the Why

805
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 3: hasn't you know what's what's?

806
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

807
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: How are we here?

808
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 5: Right?

809
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 7: I get it, and it's a fair question, and I

810
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 7: get and I get that one on a regular basis

811
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 7: from Bills fans who were expecting, Uh, they got the

812
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: number one guy, right, I mean, he's the number one

813
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 7: that they were lacking, and they went out and traded

814
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 7: for him, and what a brilliant move, and et cetera,

815
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 7: et cetera. Yeah, Look, I still think it was a

816
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 7: good trade value wise, it was ideal because from what

817
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: they could handle on the camp taking, taking aboard what

818
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: an eight hundred thousand dollars remaining out much on a deal,

819
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 7: not much they could They could fit him in and

820
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 7: get and let him be a tryout guy, basically a

821
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 7: trialut guy. I don't think that, you know, as I

822
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 7: see the tryout right now, unless something dramatic happens over

823
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 7: whatever is left of the postseason for the Bills, I

824
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 7: would tell you that it's it's hard for me to

825
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 7: see him even coming back here. But it's not for

826
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 7: any negative reason.

827
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 8: They like the guy.

828
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 7: I think he likes being part of this. However, he

829
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 7: is the transformative thing that was expected was probably an

830
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 7: over exaggeration of what he could do his presence, though

831
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 7: there is a nuanced, sort of subtle thing that's there,

832
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 7: and it's that he's on the field and commands respect

833
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 7: of courage. And I think what you're going to see

834
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 7: Sunday is what are the Ravens going to do?

835
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 5: Ignore the guy?

836
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 7: No, and and as they pay attention to him and

837
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 7: routes when they when they come out with those multi

838
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 7: receiver sets, it's going to open things up for the

839
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 7: other people I mentioned in those underneath routes, those shorter

840
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 7: areas and then on the occasional and maybe I'll be

841
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 7: all wrong and he'll be the five or six catch guy,

842
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: but that really hasn't been how this offense has worked.

843
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 7: Joe Brady, the offensive coordinator, has made this everyone eats

844
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 7: mantra very. It's not it sounds well, it sounded like

845
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 7: a funny, fun cliche, but now I think it's got

846
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 7: to the point where everyone eats and it's not like

847
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 7: one plate gets heaping stuck. Sometimes it's or dirbs. Sometimes

848
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 7: there's you know, a little somebody gets a half to steak.

849
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 7: Don't think something, you know, A little pasta here, you know.

850
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 7: And and that's how this, I think, the way it's

851
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 7: been dispersed, versus piles and piles of food for one guy,

852
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 7: piles of catches and targets.

853
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 8: And I think they're happy with this.

854
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 7: And and a Mari seems to be happy with the notion.

855
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 7: Based on everything I can tell. He's not a man

856
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 7: of many words. You guys know that very well. He

857
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: doesn't say a lot. But what he what he seems

858
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 7: to indicate is if I'm part of something that gives

859
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 7: me a chance to get a ring, I'll be a

860
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 7: happy man.

861
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: Hi, buddy, make there. It is, got to hear it?

862
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Where how do you see it going? By the time

863
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: this thing goes goes final? Where are you at?

864
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, so I've been.

865
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 7: I started the week on the fence and maybe leaning

866
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 7: in the direction of the ravens.

867
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: That was it started the week.

868
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 7: The more I've done my and Nathan knows how I work,

869
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 7: and I do that in the studio there or whatever,

870
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 7: I start watching and watching and watching more and more,

871
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 7: and much like again, you guys, do you do your homework?

872
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 7: And I keep coming up with the idea that this

873
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 7: is a beatable team, this raven team.

874
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 5: That the Bills. You know this idea.

875
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 7: They've got to have their A game. I don't know

876
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 7: if it's an A game. I just it's their game.

877
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 7: Just play, do what they've been doing and that will

878
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 7: be sufficient. Now, if they're getting blown off the ball

879
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 7: and owned at the line of scrimmage from minute one

880
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 7: and can't recover from that, okay, that's a different story.

881
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 7: But I thought that was more anomaly. We haven't seen

882
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 7: anything close to. And other teams, by the way, tried that.

883
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 7: But of course other teams you could say, Okay, did

884
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 7: you have the Ravens O line? Did you have Derrick Henry? No,

885
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 7: but it's still fair to say, look at that Detroit game,

886
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 7: that team that down with a pretty decent O line

887
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 7: and a pretty decent run game and they held their

888
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 7: on turned it into the shootout.

889
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 8: I think this could.

890
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 7: Go that direction, but I but I sense that if

891
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 7: it does that heavily favors the Buffalo Bills.

892
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: You're the best, buddy. It's gonna be fun.

893
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun one.

894
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: Enjoy it, you.

895
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 7: Will pleasure and we'll hopefully talk to you guys again

896
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 7: down the line.

897
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: We'll see at the combine for sure, not that far away.

898
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: I'll be here before we know it.

899
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 7: This is true, This is true, all.

900
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: Right, all right? Love you hy there he is, Love

901
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: you too.

902
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Speaker 2: Congratulations in order for former Brown center Alex Mack. He's

916
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: being inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. Pretty

917
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: good from the NFL side of things. Seven time Pro Bowler,

918
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: three time second Team All Pro, twenty ten's Hall of

919
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: Fame Team thirteen years career, one hundred and ninety six

920
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: games started. Here's the thing that's a little wonky about

921
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: the College Football Hall of Fame. They have to every

922
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: class they have was like twenty some people in this class.

923
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: This class has Nick Saban urban Meyer and Michael Vick,

924
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: So those are kind of like the headliners. But like,

925
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: there's quite honestly, probably one hundred players in Ohio state

926
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: history who belong in the College Football Hall of Fame.

927
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: They've been playing football there for one hundred and twenty

928
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: some years, and they can only have a couple in

929
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 2: each class. So like, for example, like Laurenitis isn't yet

930
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: a College Football Hall of Famer, he's a consensus three

931
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: time first team All American like that. You can't get

932
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: more yep, consensus Hall of Fame than that. So they're

933
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: they're having to make up ground on guys who quite

934
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: honestly should have already been in, and they can't have

935
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: a bunch from one school, So like those get kind

936
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: of parceled out. I think they should everybody posthumously. Should

937
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: it's just all going at once. If that's three hundred names,

938
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: so be it, so be it just populate it and

939
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: then you can have. How there is in the NFL

940
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, your X amount of years since

941
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: you've been done, you're a first ballot College Football Hall

942
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: of Famer. They got to just get through the backlog?

943
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: Is the problem?

944
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: Do you think that, like do they do an induction,

945
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: Like do people speak and bring their families?

946
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: They do all that? I think they do three D

947
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: people just just sicckally that would have to be like

948
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: that'd be a very difficult ceremony.

949
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you could. You wouldn't worry about

950
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: you know that, Yeah, Sammy Baugh? Yeah, yeah, yeah right,

951
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean like you wouldn't worry about if grandkids are there.

952
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you can't. You can't make it

953
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: right for everybody. Like we didn't get started fast enough.

954
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: So one of the people going into it.

955
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: Is probably I would say in my fantasy career and

956
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: this is at the time I started with the Browns,

957
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 3: but I was still doing fantasy stuff that I was

958
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: one hundred percent convinced was going to be a monster star.

959
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: Was Monty Ball.

960
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Monty Ball from Wisconsin.

961
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Manti Ball's going in two time All American

962
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: Big Ten Offensive Player of the year. In twenty eleven,

963
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 3: he had nine He led the country nineteen hundred and

964
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: twenty three yards rushing in thirty three touchdowns. He had

965
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: thirty nine total touchowns, also at three hundred yards and

966
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: six touch ounds receiving. The next year he had eighteen

967
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty yards and two twenty two touchdowns on

968
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 3: the ground. Goes second round to Denver only was in

969
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: the league for two years?

970
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: Gone quick, Yeah, I'll tell you another one that Why

971
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: didn't Why was he out of the I don't know,

972
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: it feels I bet if you pulled up Melvin Gordon Wisconsin,

973
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: you would see a similar statistical accumulation.

974
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: But Melvin Gordon at least like play play.

975
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to money ball, why it

976
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: didn't work, but they had a stretch with where it

977
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: went from ball to uh.

978
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: Gordon's last ye last year better it was twenty five

979
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: and eighty seven yards rushing, twenty nine.

980
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: Touchdowns, twenty five eighty seven, twenty five eighty seven.

981
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 3: He added another one hundred and fifty three and three

982
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 3: touchdowns receiving, so twenty seven hundred and forty total yards

983
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: and thirty two touchdowns all American Big Ten Offensive Player

984
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: of the Year. Yeah, but then he had the game

985
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, because I'm pretty sure I was

986
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: that a Paninis and Solon with s who was out

987
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 3: of his mind by the way out of his mind

988
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: and we had to leave. He had that huge year.

989
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: But then against the buck guys, I want to say

990
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 3: it was a Big Ten championship.

991
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 4: That's and they got ten years ago. Yeah, smoked and

992
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: he did nothing.

993
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: That was when Ohio State's run to the national title began.

994
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: They annihilated what they weren't even on the going to

995
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: get into the playoff. They annihilated Wisconsin that night. Wisconsin

996
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: was a fourteen point favorite. Yeah, they annihilated him, and

997
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: then they got in as the four seat and then

998
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: ended up beating Bam and.

999
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: Twelve we had. Yeah, I think Estima have had like

1000
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 4: a Christmas sale or two.

1001
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: And was he just that excited or was he excited

1002
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 3: losing his mind screaming completely inappropriate things out loud with

1003
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: joy and at one point, I'm not sure. I don't

1004
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: quite remember how it went down. If this person was

1005
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: a table of people who were there to root for Wisconsin,

1006
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: or if it was just what he had said, had

1007
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: offended this woman to the point where she told him

1008
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: to stop doing there were kids there. Yeah, and his

1009
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: response to her request for stop and I'm like, dude,

1010
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 3: we have got.

1011
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: It, get get out of here, like you're we gotta go.

1012
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: You and you're getting in my car and we're going.

1013
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 5: We're going.

1014
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. I guarantee he would. He remembers that night.

1015
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine that he would.

1016
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: Actually he probably doesn't, but he remembers the story of that.

1017
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: Night and the aftermath. I'm sure.

1018
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, closed he has never been Maybe.

1019
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: That was the reason why. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins are

1020
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: going to get to play the first ever NFL game

1021
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: in Madrid at the home of Real Madrid, the San

1022
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: Diego Bernabeo Burnabao.

1023
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: That's gonna be pretty cool.

1024
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: That's the greatest. That is the greatest facility on the planet,

1025
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: the most technologically advanced facility on the planet. They have

1026
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: two for a stadium. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they that's

1027
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: the one where the grass grows underneath totally. All those

1028
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: things move and it goes underneath. Crazy, absolutely crazy.

1029
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: It's pretty good for an arena, But that first stadium.

1030
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's next level. Yeah, it makes sense that

1031
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: it's Miami. Like all of the people in the European

1032
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: people want to come to Miami to vacation. That's an easy,

1033
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: easy connect.

1034
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: To think of Miami. Now Messi's there, there's a lot

1035
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: of those. Are all Barcelona guys though not that, But

1036
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying just there's a lot of the respect for football, Yes,

1037
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: and Miami is great and is ingrained very much in

1038
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 3: the culture of a great many inhabitants.

1039
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: And for the longest time, so many of those European

1040
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: soccer players vacation in Miami because they are afforded anonymity, yeah,

1041
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: where they wouldn't have that in Majorca, you know what

1042
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean. So that's part of it. So it'll be Miami. There,

1043
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: it's Indy and Berlin and then we're in London. So

1044
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: that's where you go on that. Tom Brady, I thought

1045
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: this is inching plans does not plan to leave the

1046
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: broadcast booth at Fox and plans to be there for

1047
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: the duration of his ten year contract.

1048
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: At no point that I think he himself would have

1049
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 3: planned to leave the booth. Million forced to leave the booth,

1050
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: So yes, that is his plan. I don't know that

1051
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Roger Goodell's plan is to allow him to be an owner.

1052
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, he's going to be calling a game this weekend,

1053
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: right is he doing?

1054
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: He's doing Detroit, Detroit.

1055
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: He's interviewed both assistants.

1056
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: Glenn and Ben Johnson.

1057
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and reportedly wants Ben Johnson.

1058
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 4: Bigly, biglely.

1059
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 3: So how can you even is he going to acknowledge that, yes, Hey,

1060
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: I interviewed this guy for our head coaching job.

1061
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: No, of course, is he gonna have to be there

1062
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: even his tone.

1063
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: If he really wants Ben Johnson, he's gonna have to

1064
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: be very complimentary about their offense and oh, look at

1065
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: this great scheme, and not really say anything negative about him.

1066
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 2: Right, Like, we do a segment in the Morning's called

1067
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: Thing or Not a Thing where a statement is made

1068
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: and then we decide if it's a thing or not

1069
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: a thing.

1070
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 4: I get how it works, Some don't, some don't.

1071
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: And the way that this was proposed to me was

1072
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's agent says he plans to be in the

1073
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 2: booth for Fox for the next ten years. Thing or

1074
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: not a thing, not a thing. It's not gonna be

1075
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: his call.

1076
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: That is call.

1077
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: They're gonna say, pick one. Yeah, you can be the

1078
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: face of Fox. You can get all the money that

1079
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: comes with that, or you can be a minority owner

1080
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: in the Las Vegas Raiders. You can get all that

1081
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: comes with that.

1082
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 4: That's it. You can't have both, that's it.

1083
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: So, uh, this was big news on the Fox side

1084
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 2: of things. I said this was a thing. Live Golf

1085
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: has reached a multi year broadcast agreement with Fox Sports

1086
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 2: broadcast more than half of it's fourteen tournaments live on

1087
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: Fox or FS one. Select rounds we broadcast on FS two,

1088
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: Fox Business, Fox Sports app. Financial terms of the deal

1089
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: we're not disclosed, even if it's free, even if they're

1090
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: just giving it to Fox, and Fox's like, yeah, we'll

1091
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: run it because Live has their own production. It's all

1092
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 2: their own people, so all they need is the broadcast

1093
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: air to put it on. Yep, that's a big win

1094
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: for Live.

1095
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: It is, but I'm I think the whole thing's ridiculous.

1096
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: We'd just get one tour.

1097
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all cooked, But I mean from their standish port,

1098
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: they went from being off CW to being honest.

1099
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: That's a big boy Fox. By the way, did you.

1100
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: We haven't talked about it much, but I'll just real

1101
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: quickly I've now watched ten minutes, I think consecutive of

1102
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: the go ahead.

1103
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 4: You can hit that. It's two o'clock.

1104
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: You can listen to w You or listening to wkn

1105
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: R eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, a good Karma Brands station.

1106
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 4: Very nice.

1107
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: This indoor golf thing, yeah, I watched about ninety seconds

1108
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: on Monday sucks.

1109
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't get how anybody thought this.

1110
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: Was around a million people watched it. That's Monday.

1111
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember how many million people watched the first

1112
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: weekend of the XFL?

1113
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: But this was Tig you're with you? It was awful.

1114
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: It's not fun to wat. I don't care.

1115
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: About watching somebody hit into it a simulator, right, I'm

1116
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: never going to care about it.

1117
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: No, No, And.

1118
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 3: Tiger is not going to hit a wedge that he

1119
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 3: thinks is good twenty yards long, No, twenty yards from

1120
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: one hundred from one hundred yards, he went twenty yards long.

1121
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: That's not going to happen.

1122
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 5: No.

1123
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 4: The greens aren't really none of it's it's golf's golf.

1124
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what they're I don't understand.

1125
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 4: Could you imagine?

1126
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: I know that there is a ball was a screen

1127
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 3: and I was just shooting a basketball and then we

1128
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: got to see if it went in the basket or not.

1129
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

1130
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 5: What doing?

1131
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I thought it was awful. I understand

1132
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: why how it got on air. If Tiger's behind something,

1133
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: He's always not been as spoke on the wheel, but

1134
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: rather the breaking the wheel. But the thing about it is,

1135
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: it's really just chasing a million people. Yeah, that's our

1136
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand. Like it's when people say

1137
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: that like that Spring Football League wasn't working, Like eight

1138
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: hundred thousand people. That's working. That's working in today's model.

1139
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: That's working. So I don't know what ESPN's paying for it.

1140
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how they're making their end of it,

1141
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: but if they can be in that seven hundred thousand range,

1142
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: you can give it a go with that. I just

1143
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: think for me, I'll never watch again. I don't. I

1144
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: thought it was utter nonsense.

1145
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, complete and ut or not.

1146
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't wasn't working for me at all, buddy. Our positional

1147
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: leave you continues with the Defensive Tackle Room that is

1148
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,600
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1159
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Speaker 2: We're in the defensive tackle room and for some elaboration

1160
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 2: we turn now to Duck de Ze.

1161
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: Not a ton to get into here, but the way

1162
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: that you'd sum it up is you're open the season

1163
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: with Dalvin Tomlinson, Shelby Harris, Mohurst, Mike Hall, Quintin Jefferson.

1164
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: Quentin Jefferson was released in the middle of the season.

1165
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: Mohurst ended this season on IR, Mike Hall ended the

1166
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 3: season i IR, Shelby Harris ended the season on IR.

1167
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 3: So the one guy that was there for you all year,

1168
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: even though he did miss Week eighteen, was Dalvin Tomlinson.

1169
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 3: Three sacks, twenty six tackles, six tackles for lost eighteen

1170
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: quarterback hits. That was a career high for Dalvin, So

1171
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: he was he played very well. Best season kind of

1172
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: as a pass rusher for him. Maybe not in the sacks,

1173
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: but in terms of pressures and the quarterback hits for

1174
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson, it most certainly was. And so he'll be

1175
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: in the last year he signed that three year deal.

1176
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 3: That'll be in the last year of that three year

1177
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 3: deal for the Browns at a good rate, and I think,

1178
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: obviously I would expect that he would be back there.

1179
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 3: So he played well. Shelby Harris was solid for you

1180
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 3: all season long. But you know, ended up on ir.

1181
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: He's not a spring chicken either. And that's the thing.

1182
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: You know, You're unfortunately a little old here. Dalvin'll be

1183
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 3: thirty one next year. Shelby Harris, if I.

1184
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 4: Pull that up real fast, if I can.

1185
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: Spell Shelby Harris is definitely in his thirties as well.

1186
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: It's not a it's it's not a young team on

1187
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 3: that defensive line. We were very veteran late Now Quinn

1188
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: Jefferson got released. He's with the Buffalo Bills now. Shelby Harris,

1189
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,959
Speaker 3: if I said again, solid season for you, He's gonna

1190
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 3: be thirty four next year. Yeah, Mohurst who missed most

1191
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: of the season unfortunately on IR again, he is not

1192
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: a spring chicken either. Mohurst will be thirty so not

1193
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: a young room on the big picture. But Dalvin'll be back.

1194
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: I think Mike Hall obviously he will be back. And

1195
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: you know he's he's still in rehab mode coming back

1196
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 3: from that injury at the end of the year. But

1197
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: you talked about a guy could get to the quarterback.

1198
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 3: Was disruptive, looked every bit the part. You know he's

1199
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: he's got you expect not only to be a star tour,

1200
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 3: but if you're removed her from starter, what do you get?

1201
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 4: Oh, baby, star?

1202
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: That's right.

1203
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 4: I think he has a chance to be a star.

1204
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 3: Juwan Briggs played really well, really well for this football

1205
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: team the rookie seventh round in six games, thirteen tackles,

1206
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: a fumble, recovery, hit, tackle for a loss. But even

1207
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: kind as you dive into it more and look at

1208
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: what he did on you know, kind of as on

1209
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: a grading basis.

1210
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: He made it. He was noticed.

1211
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 3: He was a solid, solid starter for you. Guy that

1212
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: played not starter but a solid rotational player for you

1213
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: actually had the eleventh best grade on the defense, and

1214
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 3: if you take out people who really didn't play, anybody

1215
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: who played six games or more, he actually had the

1216
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: eighth best grade for you on defense this season. So

1217
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: Juwan Briggs somebody certainly you could work with and strong

1218
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 3: at the point of attack. Another name I would put

1219
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: on here is is Sam Kamara, because he's much more

1220
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: of a defensive tackle than a defensive end, bounced around

1221
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: the league.

1222
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 4: Rotational guy.

1223
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 3: I think next year you're going to go into it

1224
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: with Dalvin, You're going to go into it with Mike Hall,

1225
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: You're going to go into it with Juwan Briggs. Perhaps

1226
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 3: one of the veterans will be back Shelby or Mo

1227
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 3: And then I think this is an area where you

1228
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 3: could if you're going to make an aggressive pick on

1229
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: the defensive line, and I think it's probably more likely

1230
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: to be defensive tackle than defensive end.

1231
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: Now, defensive end.

1232
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: You want, But you really got nice play out of

1233
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 3: Isaiah maguire, you got alex Right, You've got a couple

1234
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: of young players there, and I thought Alexiam McGuire played great.

1235
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely starting quality.

1236
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: Could you see that as in your first pick? What

1237
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: first round.

1238
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: You think you have to tackle, like I see, there's

1239
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: the only way to take mins from Michigan.

1240
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 4: That's a trade down.

1241
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then if you trade down and take a

1242
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: defensive tackle, how are we getting to the quarterback?

1243
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: How was that getting figured out somewhere else? Yeah? Yeah,

1244
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of the the deal there. I might call

1245
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: a healthy fortunately no, I know, but like if he could,

1246
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: if he could be healthy and then out of his

1247
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: own way was if he has a great offseason and

1248
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: comes back like locked in, he's got a chance to

1249
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: be a star. To the point, and so the reality

1250
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 2: is is is that that's that's kind of the thing

1251
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: that could change this from like a room that needs

1252
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: a lot of questions answered to. Okay, we're you can

1253
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: go from strength, go from a relative weakness to a

1254
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: relative strength really quick. If you draft one and you

1255
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: have Mike.

1256
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: Yes ready to roll.

1257
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: Are you of the opinion or from his time at

1258
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: Ohio State, was he relatively speaking healthy?

1259
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: He was nicked up a little bit here and there, because.

1260
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: Remember he had that practice the practice injury to cost

1261
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: him a few games. You know, he had the suspension

1262
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: basically earlier this year, and then he had the injury

1263
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 3: at the end of the season as well. So ideally

1264
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 3: you certainly would want, you know, you need him to

1265
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: be available. And I think he can be very, very

1266
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: good for this team. I like you said, I think

1267
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: superstar is absolutely the right way to say it.

1268
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 4: Superstar.

1269
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 3: I think he has Pro Bowl potential, has a chance

1270
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 3: to be an incredible interior disruptor, sacks, tackles for a loss,

1271
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: all of those things. He has all of the ability

1272
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: to be just a game wrecker in the backfield. He's

1273
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 3: got all of that ability. We just need to we

1274
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 3: need to see it. We need to see him stay

1275
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 3: healthy and lies that talent. But he's the one you're

1276
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: accounting on and he's the only one that I would say,

1277
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 3: big picture, you're saying, Okay, he's the one guy that's

1278
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: a starter for years now.

1279
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: Briggs could be that.

1280
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: But Briggs is more of a two down player than

1281
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: he is a three down player.

1282
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: He's not a pass rusher.

1283
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: I still think you need another interior pass rusher brought

1284
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: in here, whether that's a veteran you know, to replace

1285
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 3: Dalvin in time, or you know, you draft another one.

1286
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: So in terms of I thought we'd pull up the

1287
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: on ESPN dot COM's there's a Scouts Inc. Best available

1288
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: on the defensive tackle in the rooms and just kind

1289
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: of see where that kind of stacks up with some

1290
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: of the other ones we've done, and it is, of course,

1291
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: Mason Graham is. They got him number three overall, the

1292
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: big defensive tackle out of Michigan. He's in there. Some

1293
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: other guys. Walter Nolan, he's at Old Miss. He started

1294
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: at Texas A and M and was part of a

1295
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: really big recruiting class there and then played last year

1296
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: at Old Miss. He's a stud. Tyler Williams Ohio State

1297
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: is a stud, and a lot of people down there

1298
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: think in this year's draft available he might be the

1299
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: surest bet of the guys.

1300
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: They have him kind of going.

1301
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 2: They got him third in terms of where they have

1302
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: him going in the draft. They have him twenty first overall,

1303
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: first round pick. Yeah, first round pick. Kenneth Grant is

1304
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: the other Michigan defensive tackle. He is fifth on theirs.

1305
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: They got him forty first overall. See if there's any

1306
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: other names that you might know out there. Howard Cross

1307
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: out of Notre Dame is kind of in the middle

1308
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 2: of all of this as well. He'll be in the

1309
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: game on Monday Night. But I guess the point is

1310
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: there is a ton of talent along the defensive line

1311
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: in this draft, and especially defensive tackle. I mean, just

1312
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: knowing college football the way I do, there's six seven

1313
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: guys who it feels to me, could make like an

1314
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: immediate impact.

1315
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm trying to look at a.

1316
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: Dane just posted his I'm looking at his two round

1317
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: mock me where he had in.

1318
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: Terms of Scout like top top fifty players available, seven

1319
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: or d tackles.

1320
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that could a big as Mason Graham

1321
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 3: go seventh to the Jets. Is Shamar Stewart defensive tackle

1322
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: or defensive end?

1323
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: It feels like he's de tackle. He's the seventh one

1324
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:08,959
Speaker 2: on theirs.

1325
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: He has him go fifteenth to the Falcons. Derek Harmon

1326
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: from Oregon, Yeah, he's sixteenth to the Cardinals. TYLERK Williams,

1327
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 3: twenty third to Green Bay.

1328
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: Got it? Walter Nolan in the first round, isn't he?

1329
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: Kenneth Grant, Yeah, thirty first to Michigan from Michigan.

1330
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 4: From Michigan, I'm sorry.

1331
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 3: Walter Nolan forty third the Niners. So I mean you

1332
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 3: could if you wanted at thirty three. If you wanted

1333
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: to get a defensive tackle, will probably be some options

1334
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 3: available to you. There's gonna be good running backs there

1335
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: as well. Like Trayvon Henderson's going. He has him in

1336
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: the second round. Here's a van in the tight end,

1337
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: Gibet's boy in the second round. A lot of tight

1338
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: ends and defensive tackles. Alfred Collins in the second round,

1339
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: defensive tackle from Texas.

1340
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: Yep. So yeah, there's some really good players at this position,

1341
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: and some of them might actually fall because there'll be

1342
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: a run on a position that maybe doesn't have the

1343
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: depth of talent, so that usually happens. So some of

1344
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: these guys could actually fall and be available. Remember you

1345
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: had three threes.

1346
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: What's Caleb Johnson lot, a running back from Iowa. Was

1347
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: he somebody that you were very very impressed with?

1348
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was like their bellcow guy.

1349
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: He has him going in the first round to the Vikings.

1350
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: He must love his measurables and he.

1351
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: Thinks he's an outside zone rusher. He has Genty going

1352
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: as the first running back, but the second where's he?

1353
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: How far does he have Genty down the list?

1354
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 4: Like it's late teens, mid to late teens.

1355
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he usually has a pretty good handle on the

1356
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: area where a guy is picked. Yeah, that's what it

1357
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: seems like to me. I mean, you see some people

1358
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: have genty in the top ten. I don't know if

1359
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: we're there yet. So he just got two running backs

1360
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: in the first round. Yep, nothing from mamar and Hampton.

1361
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: No, yeah, Marian Hampton.

1362
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, like I said, on the running backs,

1363
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: we did that the other day, My goodness. I mean,

1364
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: Dylan Samson, Cam Scattaboo, Trevor Ettien, Travian Henderson, Jordan James.

1365
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: There's a ton of talent second third round running backs, a.

1366
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 4: Lot of tackles going in the first round. Yeah as well,

1367
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 4: you said a Marion Hampton, so he's got genty twentieth

1368
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 4: to Denver, Caleb Johnson twenty fourth to Minnesota.

1369
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: Then you said Trey early second round.

1370
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: Marion Hampton thirty seventh to the Raiders. Okay, Travon forty

1371
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 3: fourth to Dallas. So I also think if you're the

1372
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: Browns and you want to like thirty three, you're gonna

1373
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: have an option to get a real dude you were,

1374
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: you could.

1375
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: Get a starting tailback or a starting d tackle in

1376
01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: that spot.

1377
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, or starting offensive tackle.

1378
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like all of those things could be available there.

1379
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: I think if we're running wide zone, obviously we all

1380
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 3: want Nick Chubb to be back. But I think the

1381
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: idea that you could get a second a second round

1382
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: pick at running back who would be your megastar for

1383
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 3: a while. Again, just like Nick chubbles would be a

1384
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: pretty good thing.

1385
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: That would be I would think so too. That's why

1386
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: when we were doing it, like give me a weapon, the.

1387
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: Question is something, is it is so deep that in

1388
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 3: the third round you're still getting a dude?

1389
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 2: That hard to say? Yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously, if

1390
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: there's a running back you love at the top of

1391
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: the second.

1392
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 4: Round, run, I want to score the football.

1393
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: That's what I want, Baby's and that's what you gotta have.

1394
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the way that it's got to be,

1395
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: all right. Coming up next, which remaining playoff team's most

1396
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: important non quarterback. We'll get to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 2: com to join today. All right, here is the question.

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Speaker 2: Who is each playoff team's most important non quarterback? You ready? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're ready? Little traveling music?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna?

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: Are you gonna?

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01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 4: Are you gonna do it as well?

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01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm gonna participate with you.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: You ready? Kansas City Chiefs I wrote down.

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01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 4: Chris Chris Jones.

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Jones, all Pro defensive disruptor, monster in the middle,

1419
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 3: gets after the quarterback, best player on their defense, probably

1420
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 3: the best player on the team that isn't Mahomes, given

1421
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: that Kelsey was not at normal Kelsey levels this year.

1422
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: The only other It's kind of it's a two fer.

1423
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 2: But Pachecko and Kareem I do think that they need

1424
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: to get if they can. If twenty some days off

1425
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: and they can get a run game out of those two, yep.

1426
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 2: And you have to defend both. That's a problem. Yep. So,

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01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 2: but I think it's Chris Jians Buffalo Bill's non Josh

1428
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: Allen most important.

1429
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 3: James Cook sixteen touchdowns rushing this year over a thousand yards.

1430
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: He's kind of the other a player on offense.

1431
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 4: So I think they need to have he needs to

1433
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 4: be able to run them and have a have a

1434
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 4: big game for them the same.

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's the he's the he's the other

1436
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: one that can take it to the barn that you

1437
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 2: have to deal with. That's a threat that they can

1438
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: rely on. The Baltimore one is kind of a cheat

1439
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: code for it to be anybody other than Derrick Henry.

1440
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: Well almost you could almost go to too deep on

1441
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, Derrick Henry and then probably Mattabik or Marlon Humphrey,

1442
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton.

1443
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton. You feel pretty good on Kyle Hamilton.

1444
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 4: On the back end of that, Kwan Smith.

1445
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:31,959
Speaker 2: They have a lot of studs.

1446
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy they do.

1447
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 3: The Bills will probably be Cook and then either you know,

1448
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: a Von Miller or somebody a pass Rusher at Oliver. Yeah,

1449
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: somebody that's disruptive there Texans. And I said, Nico Nko

1450
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 3: for sure. I mean when he was out it was bad.

1451
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 3: Any when he's there, it's pretty much Nico and Nico.

1452
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 2: I think they need a little out of mixing too.

1453
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: They need him to go. I think they have the

1454
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 2: To me, it's hard to that's a big number. To me,

1455
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm reading that as somebody knows something. I'm not reading

1456
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 2: it like it's too big. And I know there's usually

1457
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 2: a chief tax. It feels like Kansas City will burrium.

1458
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: It feels like Kansas City knows how to take the

1459
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: twenty days off. They know how to. Yeah, listen to

1460
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes this week. He's like, oh, yeah, we're good. Like

1461
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: they're healthiest they've been.

1462
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I agree.

1463
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: I mean we saw the Ravens absolutely annihilate them.

1464
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1465
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: Do you like do you are you with me in

1466
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 3: terms of I'm shocked that the Chargers got beaten by them.

1467
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, through four picks that Baltimore and Detroit have this

1468
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: downhill nature to them. They do that's hard to match.

1469
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: Philly's on it a little bit, Buffalo's on it a

1470
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: couple of times, but it feels like Baltimore and Detroit

1471
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 2: if they get you on their heels, on your heels, steamroller,

1472
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: forget it. Yeah, NFC Detroit Leo's.

1473
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it could be I could have said

1474
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: I Mon Rossain Brown, you could say somebody off there.

1475
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: I think it's the combination of and he's returning right,

1476
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 3: Gibbs and David Montgomery.

1477
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 2: Here, gibbson David Montgomery and just.

1478
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,440
Speaker 3: Their ability that the hammer that they bring is incredible.

1479
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: It's it's so it was such a you know, there

1480
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,759
Speaker 2: were a lot of people mocked them for that draft

1481
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 2: when they went off ball, linebacker, tight end and running

1482
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: back with their their first three picks. But it's all worked.

1483
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 2: Port is great, Gibbs is great. Jack Campbell and I

1484
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 2: don't know if he's been on that level, but two

1485
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 2: out of the three of them been outstanding. Campbe's been good,

1486
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: Campbll's been good too. So, like they every box was

1487
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: checked in terms of that, and Gibbs is such a weapon.

1488
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 2: That's like when we're talking running back, like give me

1489
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: somebody like that who you're just like, good, Lord, don't

1490
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: put him in space, right, That's that's what you need.

1491
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 4: You need a weapon.

1492
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 3: Campbell this year one hundred and thirty one tackles, five

1493
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: passes defense, one and a half sacks, five tackles for

1494
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: a loss.

1495
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 4: So pret good, pretty pretty good.

1496
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: What's amazing, though, is that's just the not Maybe it's

1497
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: just a change in the way the game was played

1498
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: this year, or it's the teams that are here. I mean,

1499
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm on Rustling Brown certainly would have been a reasonable

1500
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: one to say.

1501
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,879
Speaker 4: For Detroit.

1502
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have Cook, you have Derrick Henry, you have

1503
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: Gibbs and DeMont Eagles.

1504
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 4: I'm sure we're going the bull. Say Saquon you got

1505
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 4: a flashlight.

1506
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: There's a flashlight.

1507
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: Rams I would say Puka Nakua, but you Kiren Williams

1508
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: would be in the conversation.

1509
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,520
Speaker 4: And then for commanders, I think McLaurin.

1510
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a game of signal caller and weapons, yep.

1511
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: And so if you're not a single caller and weapons,

1512
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: then the next thing you got to be is someone

1513
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 2: who takes those things away. So whether it's a corner

1514
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: or a d end or somebody who's a disruptor.

1515
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: Jones is really the only defensive guy we said though,

1516
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 3: he's just so dominant.

1517
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can be such a dominant for us, and

1518
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: I you know, the feeling is is we haven't done

1519
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: our picks yet, but I'm leaning Baltimore to right now,

1520
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: and I think about them playing Baltimore and I'm thinking

1521
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: they're gonna be Chris Jones to be disruptive in that yeah,

1522
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 2: in a big way. So yeah, No, it's it. That's

1523
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: that's kind of the game. That's kind of the way

1524
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 2: this game is played. Score it, find a way to

1525
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: stop it. And the weapon part of it is gonna

1526
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 2: be uh, it's gonna be critical this weekend.

1527
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 4: That's it.

1528
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: One second round quarterback in all of these teams. Everybody

1529
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: else the first rounder.

1530
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 4: First round, their first round, their first round, their first round,

1531
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 4: their first round, or second first first yep.

1532
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking number two, two, number two overalls,

1533
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: a number one overall, two, number one overalls.

1534
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: Yep.

1535
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 2: Mahomes was ten, Allen was six. Yeah, yeah, someone there,

1536
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: and then Lamar was at the end of the draft,

1537
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: and then Jalen Hurts was the second rounder. It's pretty straightforward.

1538
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: I will say this, and this is something that if

1539
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 3: the Browns do take a quarterback in this draft early

1540
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 3: that if he doesn't have immediate you know, success throwing

1541
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 3: the ball. I would remind anybody to go look at

1542
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 3: either Josh Allen's rookie year. So look at Lamar Jackson's

1543
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 3: rookie year. We thought Lamar like when the Chargers beat them?

1544
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 3: Was it the Chargers that beat them in the playoffs?

1545
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: They play three safeties and you're like, well, the books

1546
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: out on him, we can't. And then he ended up

1547
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 3: becoming a tremendous thrower, wins his first MVP. I think

1548
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: that right next.

1549
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 2: Year, even after he'd won an MVP, the whole league

1550
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: could have had Lamar Jackson.

1551
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 4: Holy, that's still one of the craziest.

1552
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: One of the craziest things ever, Like the whole league add, oh,

1553
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: he can't throw.

1554
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 4: It, can't throw it?

1555
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 2: You sure?

1556
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1557
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Vic at the combine after Josh

1558
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: Allen's rookie year, and he was more than skeptical about it.

1559
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: Like he took it. He turns the ball over in

1560
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: the most inopportune times. He has no sense of ball security.

1561
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: He's reckless with it. He's not accurate.

1562
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 4: His playoff debut, which I believe, I think I have

1563
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 4: it right. But his playoff debut I believe was in Houston,

1564
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: and he had some of the most insane plays running backwards.

1565
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 4: He had the right doing all kinds of craziness. Let

1566
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 4: me see if I can pull up his playoff game link.

1567
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: Here we go, Yeah, it was Houston.

1568
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: After a second season, he went twenty four of forty

1569
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 3: six two sixty four, no touchdowns, no picks, ran a

1570
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: little bit, but then ended up like it's just some bonkers.

1571
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 4: Plays, and then he started as really.

1572
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one is when he really started to become

1573
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 3: a dynamic passer. Twenty twenty one he really took off

1574
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: because twenty nineteen rookie season, eleven starts, fifty three percent completions,

1575
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 3: ten touchdowns, twelve picks. Next year fifty eight percent completions,

1576
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 3: three thousand yards, twenty touchdowns, nine picks, and then it

1577
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 3: just takes off. In twenty twenty sixty nine percent forty

1578
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: five hundred yards thirty seven then sixty three forty four

1579
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty six touchdowns sixty three percent, forty three

1580
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five touchdowns sixty seven percent forty three

1581
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty nine touchdowns, and then this year much

1582
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: more muted numbers passing thirty seven hundred twenty eight touchdowns,

1583
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 3: but he is running. I don't think people like if

1584
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 3: we did guess sets, we'd be hilarious. He's never had

1585
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 3: fewer than six rushing touchdowns in a season eight nine, eight, six, seven,

1586
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: and then the last two years fifteen and twelve.

1587
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Jeez, I wouldn't have had that many. I would have

1588
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: had twenty seven the last two.

1589
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 3: Years, twenty seven the last two years, jeez. In the

1590
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:56,959
Speaker 3: year where Cook ran.

1591
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 4: For sixteen, yeah, he ran for twelve.

1592
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: Still, yeah, it's for the like CJ had the year

1593
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: he had last year, Jaden had the year he had

1594
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: last this year. In terms of a rookie bursting onto

1595
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: the scene, there is also Bryce Young, and there is

1596
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 2: also Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, And you gotta, you gotta,

1597
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: you have to trust in your ability to identify talent

1598
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 2: and then get the best out of that talent. That's

1599
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: the job. Because quite honestly, the Bills could have bailed

1600
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: on Josh Allen. Yep, been like this, ain't it yep?

1601
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 2: Lamar the Ravens tried to we can't win with him.

1602
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: It's gotta negotiate his own deal.

1603
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 4: Crazy after he won the MVP, really crazy.

1604
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: It's nuts in retrospect, but yeah, you have to nurture.

1605
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: And Peyton Manning just had a big thing with that

1606
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 2: with Kevin clark On on their platform about how like

1607
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 2: Kayla Williams is gonna have his third coordinator in his

1608
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: second year, He's gonna have his third coordinator.

1609
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's hard.

1610
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 2: What chance do you give when you do that? Like,

1611
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 2: if you're Washington, whatever it takes to keep cliff yep

1612
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: right that whatever that check is to keep him so

1613
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: that it's the same, it's just critical to these guys.

1614
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 2: All right, we'll do a little divisional round over under.

1615
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: We will also play a little segment called do pay

1616
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,640
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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,960
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1626
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Speaker 2: have the one, the only, the Gibbee, probably from us.

1627
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 2: Are you gonna speak easy and eagles? I could see

1628
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: it a lounge of moose lodge, baby picture, look at

1629
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 2: the picture of give me where are you? You bellied up?

1630
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: You got sixteen beers in front of you.

1631
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

1632
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be great. No, I think I just

1633
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 5: put down a second mortgage on the vet bill that

1634
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 5: I just came from. No, great vet bill. You're Friday going.

1635
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: Why are you having a vet bill?

1636
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, Like I'm like mister mom today, buddy.

1637
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 4: Oh god, I thought you weren't here. I thought you

1638
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 4: weren't want to.

1639
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh, it'd be great. I wish I was. I

1640
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 5: wish I was twenty drinks into the day. That'd be great.

1641
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 2: You gotta take the pond to the pets, Gibbe, just

1642
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 2: the pondos was. Let him fend for themselves. Just leave

1643
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: him outside, hope for the best. They'll be around, enjoy

1644
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: their time.

1645
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,520
Speaker 5: Bishop is Buddy Garrity fending for himself?

1646
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: He is, as far as I'm concerned.

1647
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 5: Oh well, okay, on the other side. I did want

1648
01:18:59,120 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 5: to deal with them.

1649
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: I did warn her. I'm like, I'm to tell you

1650
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: right now, this guy tears an a c L. He's

1651
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: gonna walk with a limping.

1652
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 5: Place two of them on my oneder.

1653
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's walking with a limp.

1654
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.

1655
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm not.

1656
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: We're not doing a cl asa.

1657
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 3: Woody repaired her leg on her own with power of

1658
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 3: positive thinking.

1659
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 2: It was one of my great story. One of your

1660
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: great stories was actually like had a limp that all

1661
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden she worked herself out of it. Fix it,

1662
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 2: Toda dad.

1663
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 4: I mean that's it she did.

1664
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 2: Oh that is good. All right, you ready for.

1665
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 5: A little over under give me sure? Sure? How's the Gouy?

1666
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 4: Notorious was great?

1667
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 5: He his team is still playing for something exact.

1668
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 4: He was locked in. He didn't no pleasant tracy. He

1669
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 4: was right into business.

1670
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he was so locked in. He was so

1671
01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: locked in. Sometimes, you know, the only thing with the

1672
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 2: with the the Godfather is sometimes I think he has

1673
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: trouble elaborating.

1674
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,799
Speaker 5: So uh, you know, definitely a one word or two eight.

1675
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: Word answer all you're getting. That's all you're getting.

1676
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 4: That's it.

1677
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: That's all right. Uh last week. It is last week

1678
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 2: on the over underfront did not go well for Gibby.

1679
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 4: Remember he's not here.

1680
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 3: I think he's making he's not the vet. He's embarrassed.

1681
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 3: He's shamed that he was bested, beaten.

1682
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 5: I am anything losing, losing to you whatever.

1683
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 4: There's no shame in that.

1684
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: You're right, no shame.

1685
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

1686
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 2: You guys are even up at the end of the

1687
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 2: regular season. Last week z with a four and one performance,

1688
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: Gibbe a two and three.

1689
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 4: Now it's just ball, Gibbe, It's just who knows ball?

1690
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man loving it?

1691
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man loves its.

1692
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 5: Show up today. Get ready?

1693
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: There it is there, It is there. It is man.

1694
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:10,360
Speaker 5: Simulator.

1695
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: You know what the appropriate answers question time right when

1696
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 3: I needed to?

1697
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 2: Did you hear that?

1698
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 5: Give?

1699
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hear that? On time is what what the

1700
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 2: g mans? Yeah? On time is.

1701
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 4: On time, on time, prepared?

1702
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: All right, you guys are ready.

1703
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 4: I haven't did it. I did a ton of smorting,

1704
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: helped over.

1705
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 3: I brought the SUV to the kid and helped got

1706
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:35,959
Speaker 3: him bagged up in the primary.

1707
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 4: Going. He's doing primary, He's doing it.

1708
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just a random January primary.

1709
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 3: Is like a big fam He's like, hey, I got

1710
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: to make primary but his big family dinner tonight. So

1711
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: I had him get too large two boners that could

1712
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 3: fit into my U into my tub, brought him tub over,

1713
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: got it all set up, I rubbed, did the rub

1714
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 3: for him.

1715
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: I got in the oven.

1716
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: You did, yeah, yeah, so not So you're talking about brotherhood, fellowship, kindness, generosity,

1717
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: on time. Performing at a very high level. Who knows

1718
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: what I'll perform at next to the high level. Other

1719
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 3: things were performed at highlight. It's been it's been a

1720
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 3: banner day for me quite frankly.

1721
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 5: Well that's the first one of the week.

1722
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 4: All right, here you go, kids, many better days. You go.

1723
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: First, doctor Z, you have a Now you're now forty

1724
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: five and forty one to give.

1725
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 4: He's forty three and forty four. Is where we are

1726
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 4: on this. We are going to start the over unders.

1727
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 2: These are g Man provided as the over under committee

1728
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: retired after the regular selection like g Man provided, So

1729
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: we'll start with you, doctor Z. The number we are

1730
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: looking for is past yards. Looking for past yards, Patrick Mahomes.

1731
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 2: The over under is two forty nine point five A duct.

1732
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 4: Diz, What did I write down?

1733
01:22:58,560 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 2: There?

1734
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 4: Was my initial number before you even said it.

1735
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 2: Yep, no time for research, No time for research. The

1736
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: g man's coming at him. There is plenty of there's

1737
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: no president with the numbers of mahomes anyway, they've been

1738
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: off for twenty twenty days.

1739
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 3: I'm taking figures this out to sixty over over Gibbe over.

1740
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 5: I'm taking the under under Gibbe.

1741
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:35,679
Speaker 2: That's over under Jaden Daniels rush yards Gibbe fifty six

1742
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 2: point five rush yards Jaden Daniels fifty six point five, fifty.

1743
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 5: Six point five. I feel like he's got to have

1744
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 5: he's got to take the over for them to have

1745
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 5: a chance to win. He's got to be peak peak

1746
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,600
Speaker 5: Jadan Daniels for them to have a chance. So I

1747
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 5: will take the over over at.

1748
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: A Gibbe douc is he. I'll do the same over

1749
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 2: that's over under Saquon Barkley. Receiving yards receiving yards for

1750
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley doc di z fifteen point five, fifteen point

1751
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: five receiving yards receiving yards. Basically, one cat should do it.

1752
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 2: Pray hasn't done it much though, based on the throw

1753
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 2: him the football.

1754
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: So here's Saquon Barkley's receiving yards. And I'll just go

1755
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: game by game, starting like most recent four two zero

1756
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: nine zero ten, forty seven. Who was the forty seven against?

1757
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: Might you ask, well, that was against the Los Angeles Ros. Oh,

1758
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: maybe he's in high four catches forty seven yards. I mean,

1759
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 3: they are not throwing him the ball. But this feels

1760
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: like a great time to unleash that. I'll take the overch.

1761
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 4: It takes one swing pass give it.

1762
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 5: I just I have to go over. That number is

1763
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 5: so small.

1764
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: It's just the last time he went The last time

1765
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 3: he went over was November the twenty fourth.

1766
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: Yea, but I like it. I'm with you, I'm with you,

1767
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

1768
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1769
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Over Yeah, Lamar Jackson pass attempts. We're not gonna have

1770
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: time for all this, guys. We're gonna get through all.

1771
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 4: The score we have, Like three half minutes is going

1772
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 4: to be a big all right, I like pontificating Gibbey.

1773
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: There's no time for it, all right. Uh, where are

1774
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 2: we at? We're at Lamar Lamar pass attempts and this

1775
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: one is for Gibbe twenty seven and a half.

1776
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 5: Uh under.

1777
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Z over over, doctor Z.

1778
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,839
Speaker 4: That's over under.

1779
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 3: We are looking for the number against twenty seven and

1780
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 3: a half. I mean it's high for him. That is

1781
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: way above his average.

1782
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: Josh Allen passing touchdowns, passing touchdowns doctor Z two and

1783
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 2: a half passing passing exclusive touchdowns under under.

1784
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 5: Give yeah, I'm at two. I'm thinking he's thrown for two.

1785
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: All right under as well? All right, there you go,

1786
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: there you go, all right, give me talking to you.

1787
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 4: Best case scenario, we're tied for you. That's fine scenario.

1788
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 5: I'm lurking. I'm a profession to.

1789
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 4: Be up four after this and good night.

1790
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 5: There's a good chance that could happen as well.

1791
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 2: I'd like that.

1792
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: All right, buddy, enjoy the the rest of.

1793
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 5: Better get your rations together. The polar board is coming.

1794
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: It's coming away there. Whatever run, it's been a great run.

1795
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: Make some soups.

1796
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 4: That'll solve it.

1797
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: You do is make soups.

1798
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 4: That's it. All right.

1799
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: We've got scores to go, g man, see you give

1800
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: me all right?

1801
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 4: Here we go.

1802
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 6: Divisional Week of the scores. The Houston Texans, led by

1803
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 6: seat J. Stroud, travel to arrowhead against the Chiefs.

1804
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: Big line.

1805
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 4: What do we got?

1806
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

1807
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 2: I got? I got? Kansas City twenty seven Houston fourteen,

1808
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: the same.

1809
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 6: All right, beautiful Moving on Washington, Commanders travel to Detroit,

1810
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 6: the Lions, looking to make their second straight NFC Championship appearance.

1811
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: Doctor Z.

1812
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:56,440
Speaker 4: Commies game thirty three Leons, thirty commies.

1813
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the straight upset he calls for the Lions.

1814
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 4: Thirty three commies. You said comedy, I know, but I was.

1815
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 3: Irrelevant for the irrelevant for the purposes of what we're doing.

1816
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: True, very true.

1817
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 4: To me.

1818
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: This is my somebody knows something Detroit forty one Commi's thirty.

1819
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one definitely flies in the face of On

1820
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 4: to the Link.

1821
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 6: Rams travel to Philly to take on the Eagles. Should

1822
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 6: be a snowy one on Sunday afternoon.

1823
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop just ram it. Baby, wouldn't be surprised if

1824
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: they sprung it. But I think at the very least

1825
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: they'll be game. I know Philly crushed them last time out.

1826
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: I think LA's a little better this time around. We'll see.

1827
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: I can see Philly winning, but they don't have to

1828
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: give me Philly winning this one. Nineteen sixteen, So.

1829
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 3: This one, to me is the somebody knows we're gonna

1830
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 3: It'll be so interesting how this works out On somebody

1831
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 3: knows something. There's no way that this time makes no

1832
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 3: sense to me whatsoever. Give me the Eagles, huge, the emotions,

1833
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 3: it's a lot of that ride and high over with

1834
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 3: Eagles by fifteen six.

1835
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 6: Finally, what is being billed is the game of the year.

1836
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens tell next, Slow Bills, doctor Z.

1837
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 3: I think they're the hottest team in football right now.

1838
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 3: Same Ravens in a classic thirty eight Justin Tucker redemption

1839
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 3: from forty nine yards thirty eight thirty six Ravens.

1840
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I think Baltimore is going to kind

1841
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: of lead the whole way. And I don't know if

1842
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 2: I fell ever, I think it's they win, and I

1843
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: think they but I think it's always kind of their game.

1844
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: That's what just it just feels like their year for me.

1845
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: But we'll see so much more to come, including a

1846
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: score on the National Championship game that is coming up

1847
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: next to to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All Right, there you go. We are off on Monday

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01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: in observance of Martin Luther King Junior Day. We'll be

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01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 2: back on Tuesday. Provided we survived the polar vortex. We'll

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01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: be back thanks to some way.

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Speaker 3: Guys are gonna keep us warm, Warm, Warm, buck Guys Comfortable, Comfortable, Comfortable,

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Speaker 3: twenty seven thirteen.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame is really good for I just

1859
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: think that they are maxed out on what they can

1860
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 2: be and I think there's a lot of road maps

1861
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: for the Buckeyes. I'm with you. I think they'll be

1862
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: in the thirties. I think Notre Dame will be in

1863
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: the teens and Cruise City one of the ten years

1864
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 2: after they won it the first time in the first

1865
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 2: college football Playoff, they win it in a twelve team

1866
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: college football Thank goodness playoff for that twelve team, absolutely

1867
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: no question about it. Enjoy your long weekend, everybody. The

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