1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:13,868 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:21,988 --> 00:00:27,588 Speaker 2: Welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper. That's right, GMFB. 4 00:00:27,748 --> 00:00:31,708 Speaker 2: Everybody on a Thursday, Jamie Mansei, Mike g and Kyle 5 00:00:31,828 --> 00:00:35,028 Speaker 2: listen this time last week on Wednesday, I said it 6 00:00:35,108 --> 00:00:38,028 Speaker 2: was Thursday. Then on Thursday, I think I forgot to 7 00:00:38,028 --> 00:00:39,668 Speaker 2: say call on Barkley's name on the air. It was 8 00:00:39,708 --> 00:00:40,908 Speaker 2: not a good look for me. It was not a 9 00:00:40,908 --> 00:00:42,988 Speaker 2: great week. I feel rejuvenated this week. 10 00:00:43,028 --> 00:00:43,908 Speaker 3: I had a day off. 11 00:00:43,948 --> 00:00:46,148 Speaker 2: I've had a lot of coffee today And it might 12 00:00:46,188 --> 00:00:50,308 Speaker 2: be because this Thursday night game feels different. It's hits different, 13 00:00:50,308 --> 00:00:52,188 Speaker 2: as the kids would say, because the quarterbacks are old, 14 00:00:52,268 --> 00:00:53,948 Speaker 2: as are we, and it feels like we're just all 15 00:00:53,948 --> 00:00:57,588 Speaker 2: amongst brethren, you know, football are football fan. So it's 16 00:00:57,588 --> 00:01:00,948 Speaker 2: time for Throwdown Thursday. It is indeed Thursday. We have 17 00:01:00,988 --> 00:01:03,308 Speaker 2: three topics to talk about, so let's get to it, 18 00:01:03,348 --> 00:01:06,788 Speaker 2: shall We even kicks off tonight with a forty one 19 00:01:06,828 --> 00:01:09,908 Speaker 2: year old Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers traveling to 20 00:01:09,908 --> 00:01:12,668 Speaker 2: Cincinnati to take on forty year old Joe Flacco and 21 00:01:12,708 --> 00:01:15,948 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. We check in on Rodgers about this matchup. 22 00:01:15,988 --> 00:01:19,108 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear from his teammate Cam Hayward off camera, 23 00:01:19,388 --> 00:01:22,508 Speaker 2: who then calls it the icy Hot Bowl. 24 00:01:24,948 --> 00:01:27,068 Speaker 3: Woo I hot Bowl. 25 00:01:27,148 --> 00:01:31,628 Speaker 1: I love it, Aaron. What do you think about maybe 26 00:01:31,828 --> 00:01:33,628 Speaker 1: quarterbacks going against each other? 27 00:01:34,708 --> 00:01:36,948 Speaker 3: That's great. I mean, I've known Joe for a long time. 28 00:01:38,828 --> 00:01:41,908 Speaker 2: He's been great coming to my charity event, He's been 29 00:01:41,908 --> 00:01:43,068 Speaker 2: a great ambassador for the league. 30 00:01:43,068 --> 00:01:45,308 Speaker 4: He's had a great career, and it's fun that we're 31 00:01:45,308 --> 00:01:45,868 Speaker 4: both still a plan. 32 00:01:47,868 --> 00:01:49,308 Speaker 2: At the top of my head. I don't know how 33 00:01:49,348 --> 00:01:50,948 Speaker 2: old Cam Hayward is, but I feel like he can't 34 00:01:50,988 --> 00:01:53,028 Speaker 2: be thrown around names like icy Hot Bowl. Cam, You're 35 00:01:53,068 --> 00:01:55,268 Speaker 2: not some spring chicken either. All right, throw it down Thursday. 36 00:01:55,268 --> 00:01:59,308 Speaker 2: Here's the question which makes for a more captivating story tonight. 37 00:01:59,668 --> 00:02:02,708 Speaker 2: Is it Aaron Rodgers getting the Steelers to Super Bowl 38 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:05,708 Speaker 2: sixty and this will be one step one win in 39 00:02:05,748 --> 00:02:08,188 Speaker 2: the column on our way to that, Or would it 40 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:12,308 Speaker 2: be Joe Flacco arriving in Cincinnati and getting the Bengals 41 00:02:12,308 --> 00:02:14,828 Speaker 2: to the return of Joe Burrow and to a playoff 42 00:02:14,868 --> 00:02:15,588 Speaker 2: Berth Mansai. 43 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:18,868 Speaker 5: I got to go with old Aaron Rodgers taking the 44 00:02:18,868 --> 00:02:20,308 Speaker 5: Steelers to the super Bowl. 45 00:02:20,388 --> 00:02:20,588 Speaker 3: Guys. 46 00:02:20,588 --> 00:02:23,668 Speaker 5: The last time the Pittsburgh Steelers was in the Super Bowl, 47 00:02:23,708 --> 00:02:26,348 Speaker 5: they lost to then Aaron Rodgers, who was with the 48 00:02:26,388 --> 00:02:28,708 Speaker 5: Green Bay Packers. And what a story that would be 49 00:02:29,068 --> 00:02:31,668 Speaker 5: for somebody like Aaron Rodgers to go into a situation 50 00:02:31,828 --> 00:02:35,348 Speaker 5: where he's probably in his one two years left his 51 00:02:35,588 --> 00:02:39,028 Speaker 5: in his career, a prolific career, historic career, and to 52 00:02:39,228 --> 00:02:42,308 Speaker 5: end it with the team that he beat in his 53 00:02:42,348 --> 00:02:44,908 Speaker 5: first super Bowl win. I think that him being able 54 00:02:44,908 --> 00:02:47,028 Speaker 5: to take this team, him to be able to do 55 00:02:47,068 --> 00:02:49,668 Speaker 5: it and possibly his last year in the NFL, I 56 00:02:49,668 --> 00:02:52,188 Speaker 5: think that would be the most the more compelling story 57 00:02:52,508 --> 00:02:54,788 Speaker 5: for me to watch and most captivating for all of us. 58 00:02:55,268 --> 00:02:55,908 Speaker 3: I mean, it's. 59 00:02:56,028 --> 00:02:58,828 Speaker 6: Twenty eleven we're talking about. Was the last time that 60 00:02:58,868 --> 00:03:01,948 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers was in the Super Bowl? February sixth, twenty eleven. 61 00:03:02,028 --> 00:03:04,428 Speaker 6: Grenade Bruno Mars the number one song back then. I 62 00:03:04,428 --> 00:03:05,028 Speaker 6: remember what I guessed. 63 00:03:05,028 --> 00:03:06,548 Speaker 3: I never thought that was a number one song. 64 00:03:06,908 --> 00:03:09,588 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's the more captivating story. I mean, getting 65 00:03:09,588 --> 00:03:12,228 Speaker 6: to the playoffs is nice. And Joe Flacco having been 66 00:03:12,268 --> 00:03:14,268 Speaker 6: benched twice in two years and then taking a team 67 00:03:14,268 --> 00:03:15,428 Speaker 6: to the playoffs, great story. 68 00:03:15,588 --> 00:03:16,028 Speaker 3: Love it. 69 00:03:16,148 --> 00:03:18,668 Speaker 6: Super Bowl that's why we do what we do. Aaron 70 00:03:18,748 --> 00:03:22,428 Speaker 6: Rodgers getting back there for the first time in fifteen years. 71 00:03:22,508 --> 00:03:23,628 Speaker 1: It'll be fifteen years. 72 00:03:23,468 --> 00:03:25,388 Speaker 6: By the time we get to that part. 73 00:03:25,628 --> 00:03:27,148 Speaker 3: That is a phenomenal story. 74 00:03:27,188 --> 00:03:29,588 Speaker 6: And this team starting to feel, this team a little 75 00:03:29,588 --> 00:03:31,908 Speaker 6: bit right, and whoever plays them feels and they're a 76 00:03:31,908 --> 00:03:32,508 Speaker 6: physical team. 77 00:03:32,548 --> 00:03:34,388 Speaker 1: They're what the Steelers want to be. And then he 78 00:03:34,468 --> 00:03:38,428 Speaker 1: add Rogers to the mix. Interesting to see where this goes. Listen, 79 00:03:38,748 --> 00:03:41,428 Speaker 1: the Flacco thing. This is a two and four team 80 00:03:41,508 --> 00:03:43,228 Speaker 1: that has all kinds of problems. 81 00:03:43,548 --> 00:03:47,948 Speaker 3: He just gets traded in division. It's very strange, and yet. 82 00:03:47,988 --> 00:03:49,468 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to go with the Rogers 83 00:03:49,508 --> 00:03:51,428 Speaker 1: just because I'll speak for all of us, Like, if 84 00:03:51,428 --> 00:03:54,268 Speaker 1: Flacco does this, I won't even be that surprised. Like 85 00:03:54,788 --> 00:03:56,908 Speaker 1: we saw him take Cleveland to the playoffs. I'm kind 86 00:03:56,908 --> 00:04:01,148 Speaker 1: of almost expecting Flacco to do something special. The Rogers 87 00:04:01,148 --> 00:04:04,108 Speaker 1: thing has fifty different layers. I'll start with one. Aaron 88 00:04:04,148 --> 00:04:07,428 Speaker 1: Rodgers last year was cut by the Jets. The cut 89 00:04:07,508 --> 00:04:09,228 Speaker 1: by the zero to five Jets. You're like, now we're 90 00:04:09,228 --> 00:04:10,748 Speaker 1: going to our owing six Jets, whatever the hell they 91 00:04:10,748 --> 00:04:12,708 Speaker 1: are right now. I can't even keep track. He was 92 00:04:12,708 --> 00:04:15,588 Speaker 1: cut They're like, we're out of here. Aaron Rodgers has 93 00:04:15,668 --> 00:04:17,828 Speaker 1: this thing staring him in the face of a The 94 00:04:17,908 --> 00:04:20,988 Speaker 1: Steelers never win a playoff game these days. The Steelers 95 00:04:20,988 --> 00:04:23,108 Speaker 1: haven't been to a playoff game been to a Super 96 00:04:23,148 --> 00:04:27,468 Speaker 1: Bowl since I think Rogers beat him in one. Rogers 97 00:04:27,508 --> 00:04:30,708 Speaker 1: also always loses in the playoffs himself, Like that's that's 98 00:04:30,788 --> 00:04:33,428 Speaker 1: his legacy. Now, the best thing going for him is 99 00:04:33,428 --> 00:04:35,108 Speaker 1: if he does take the Steelers to the playoffs, he 100 00:04:35,148 --> 00:04:35,468 Speaker 1: won't have. 101 00:04:35,468 --> 00:04:38,668 Speaker 3: To play the Niners because if he did, he would. 102 00:04:38,508 --> 00:04:41,468 Speaker 1: Lose like he usually does. So the Steelers going to 103 00:04:41,508 --> 00:04:44,388 Speaker 1: the super Bowl means something extremely special other than the 104 00:04:44,428 --> 00:04:46,988 Speaker 1: other thirty one teams. Rogers going back to the super 105 00:04:46,988 --> 00:04:50,228 Speaker 1: Bowl would be an all time, all time ending Blacko 106 00:04:50,308 --> 00:04:52,388 Speaker 1: would be fun, it'd be novel. I think the answer 107 00:04:52,428 --> 00:04:53,708 Speaker 1: here is Rogers for the clean sweep. 108 00:04:54,148 --> 00:04:54,508 Speaker 2: All right. 109 00:04:54,588 --> 00:04:54,788 Speaker 5: Wow. 110 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:58,468 Speaker 2: Usually that's not a compelling way to do this segment. However, 111 00:04:58,628 --> 00:05:00,828 Speaker 2: when it's Rogers and a Super Bowl talk, it feels 112 00:05:00,908 --> 00:05:03,548 Speaker 2: like it's fitting. Moving on throat on Thursday, there are 113 00:05:03,588 --> 00:05:06,748 Speaker 2: five games between teams this weekend that are five hundred 114 00:05:06,788 --> 00:05:08,908 Speaker 2: or better. Parody in the league is on fire. 115 00:05:09,388 --> 00:05:10,428 Speaker 3: The best matchup of. 116 00:05:10,428 --> 00:05:13,868 Speaker 2: This group arguably takes place on Monday night in Detroit. 117 00:05:13,908 --> 00:05:16,028 Speaker 2: The Lions are coming off a tough loss to the Chiefs, 118 00:05:16,148 --> 00:05:19,108 Speaker 2: and Dan Campbell now knows that his defense really has 119 00:05:19,148 --> 00:05:20,948 Speaker 2: to prepare with what they're going to have their hands 120 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:24,188 Speaker 2: full in one Baker Mayfield guys. 121 00:05:24,268 --> 00:05:26,268 Speaker 7: No, I've got a lot of respect for Baker Mayfield, 122 00:05:26,348 --> 00:05:30,228 Speaker 7: the way he plays, his leadership, his ability to push 123 00:05:30,308 --> 00:05:32,708 Speaker 7: the ball down the field, make plays with his legs. 124 00:05:32,748 --> 00:05:34,468 Speaker 7: You know, I just think he's playing at a high level. 125 00:05:34,548 --> 00:05:36,268 Speaker 7: You know, he's a guy that gives them a chance 126 00:05:37,188 --> 00:05:40,068 Speaker 7: anytime they're in a game. They play really good defense. 127 00:05:40,428 --> 00:05:44,148 Speaker 7: This is a good team. It's a really good team. 128 00:05:44,348 --> 00:05:46,588 Speaker 2: The Lions have great marketing. I just love that salty 129 00:05:46,628 --> 00:05:49,108 Speaker 2: shirt he's got going on. It's perfect those two facing 130 00:05:49,108 --> 00:05:52,228 Speaker 2: off Monday night, Lions Bucks. You can only make it 131 00:05:52,268 --> 00:05:54,588 Speaker 2: to one press conference, though, you know, it's tough being 132 00:05:54,628 --> 00:05:57,948 Speaker 2: a part of the working media. MANSI which one of 133 00:05:57,988 --> 00:06:00,588 Speaker 2: these will you be making sure that you get to 134 00:06:01,388 --> 00:06:03,828 Speaker 2: press conference version, Baker Mayfield or Dan Campbell? 135 00:06:03,908 --> 00:06:06,108 Speaker 5: Well, right off, rip, I would want to go with Baker. 136 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:08,948 Speaker 3: However, given this game Lions. 137 00:06:08,668 --> 00:06:12,588 Speaker 5: Versus the Bucks, what the Bucks have going into this game, Baker. 138 00:06:12,988 --> 00:06:14,388 Speaker 5: We don't know who he's going to be able to 139 00:06:14,388 --> 00:06:18,588 Speaker 5: throw the ball to. I don't think that the Lions 140 00:06:18,668 --> 00:06:20,788 Speaker 5: are gonna make it any easier for them. So I 141 00:06:20,828 --> 00:06:23,348 Speaker 5: would love to see Dan Campbell in the postgame press er. 142 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:27,148 Speaker 5: Why because if the Buccaneers do beat the Lions, I 143 00:06:27,228 --> 00:06:30,428 Speaker 5: want to see what Dan Campbell has to say. But 144 00:06:30,508 --> 00:06:33,148 Speaker 5: if the Lions beat the Buccaneers, I want him to 145 00:06:33,188 --> 00:06:36,508 Speaker 5: talk about Baker, and I already know Dan Campbell, being 146 00:06:36,548 --> 00:06:38,508 Speaker 5: who he is, he's going to talk about Baker. Gave 147 00:06:38,868 --> 00:06:40,548 Speaker 5: give him a lot of praise because we know that 148 00:06:40,548 --> 00:06:42,108 Speaker 5: Baker's going to have to do a lot of things 149 00:06:42,108 --> 00:06:44,708 Speaker 5: in this game to help his team win. I want 150 00:06:44,748 --> 00:06:46,588 Speaker 5: to see what Dan Campbell has to say. We saw 151 00:06:46,628 --> 00:06:48,588 Speaker 5: what he had to get what he said last week 152 00:06:48,668 --> 00:06:50,348 Speaker 5: after a fight at the end of the game, and 153 00:06:50,388 --> 00:06:51,708 Speaker 5: say this is not our standards. 154 00:06:51,748 --> 00:06:53,468 Speaker 3: Know what we do, just not what we stand for. 155 00:06:53,988 --> 00:06:56,668 Speaker 5: Everything that Dan Campbell says not only inspires me, but 156 00:06:56,788 --> 00:06:58,988 Speaker 5: he also gives credit to his opponents a lot of 157 00:06:59,068 --> 00:07:01,188 Speaker 5: the time. So if I had to choose between these 158 00:07:01,188 --> 00:07:03,428 Speaker 5: two guys, it would be Dan Campbell after this game. 159 00:07:03,588 --> 00:07:05,908 Speaker 6: I'm calling it now ahead of the game, which means 160 00:07:05,908 --> 00:07:08,388 Speaker 6: I don't know who's winning or losing. So I'm gonna 161 00:07:08,388 --> 00:07:11,908 Speaker 6: go Baker Mayfield because Dan Campbell's press conference I feel 162 00:07:11,908 --> 00:07:14,588 Speaker 6: like are better during the week leading up to the game, 163 00:07:14,708 --> 00:07:17,188 Speaker 6: whereas Baker Mayfield post game. You never know what you're 164 00:07:17,188 --> 00:07:19,828 Speaker 6: gonna get, win or lose. Woke up feeling dangerous. It 165 00:07:19,868 --> 00:07:23,028 Speaker 6: was a press conference and then this one right here, 166 00:07:23,068 --> 00:07:24,588 Speaker 6: which I forgot to check to see make sure. 167 00:07:24,468 --> 00:07:27,588 Speaker 3: We have it. I think we have the image of Baker. Yes, 168 00:07:27,988 --> 00:07:31,588 Speaker 3: this was after a loss. Right here, you get a 169 00:07:31,628 --> 00:07:31,988 Speaker 3: little of this. 170 00:07:32,228 --> 00:07:34,388 Speaker 6: The still shot is great because that's the one that 171 00:07:34,468 --> 00:07:36,748 Speaker 6: really went viral, so it looks like one of the 172 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:41,828 Speaker 6: wet bandits for sticky bandits. Yeah right, you never know 173 00:07:41,868 --> 00:07:43,108 Speaker 6: we're gonna get Baker post game. 174 00:07:43,148 --> 00:07:48,148 Speaker 1: I'm going Baker Brown's Baker era is fascinating. It's so fad. 175 00:07:47,788 --> 00:07:48,468 Speaker 3: There will be. 176 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:51,308 Speaker 1: A documentary on it sometime. I was ready when Jamie 177 00:07:51,348 --> 00:07:53,188 Speaker 1: first seed up the question to go with this guy, 178 00:07:53,748 --> 00:07:56,028 Speaker 1: to go with Baker, and then we rolled the clip 179 00:07:56,068 --> 00:07:58,308 Speaker 1: of Dan Campbell. I just still can't get enough. I 180 00:07:58,348 --> 00:08:01,188 Speaker 1: love it so much. My answer is Dan Campbell. Campbell 181 00:08:01,228 --> 00:08:04,388 Speaker 1: has reached the point when he speaks where he almost 182 00:08:04,548 --> 00:08:09,068 Speaker 1: has this quality like Chrisopher Walking or Arnold Schwarzenegger, or 183 00:08:09,108 --> 00:08:11,988 Speaker 1: like Boroc where like he's doing an impression of himself 184 00:08:12,028 --> 00:08:14,348 Speaker 1: doing an impression. He's just one of those voices that 185 00:08:14,388 --> 00:08:16,948 Speaker 1: you immediately hear and resonate, even when he's just talking 186 00:08:16,988 --> 00:08:20,588 Speaker 1: about normal things. I love his physicality at the lectern. 187 00:08:20,868 --> 00:08:22,868 Speaker 3: He always looks so much bigger than it. He always 188 00:08:22,908 --> 00:08:23,828 Speaker 3: looks so muscular. 189 00:08:24,108 --> 00:08:27,628 Speaker 1: The voice is so entertaining that the quotes are so compelling, 190 00:08:28,148 --> 00:08:30,348 Speaker 1: and they're showing new layers. As I've said, it's not 191 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:32,988 Speaker 1: just all about ride the Lightning. It's after last week 192 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:35,108 Speaker 1: when the fight happened. Afterwards, I thought he was really 193 00:08:35,108 --> 00:08:36,828 Speaker 1: eloquent and insightful about that's not. 194 00:08:36,748 --> 00:08:37,388 Speaker 3: What we're about. 195 00:08:37,428 --> 00:08:39,868 Speaker 1: So he's showing us new layers. This is a very 196 00:08:39,908 --> 00:08:42,228 Speaker 1: good question because I can go either way, but I 197 00:08:42,308 --> 00:08:42,908 Speaker 1: just can't quit. 198 00:08:43,068 --> 00:08:44,268 Speaker 3: I can't quit Dan Campbell. 199 00:08:44,308 --> 00:08:46,188 Speaker 1: It's that heavy metal song I just keep playing over 200 00:08:46,188 --> 00:08:47,348 Speaker 1: and over because it rocks so hard. 201 00:08:47,348 --> 00:08:49,188 Speaker 6: You don't think you're getting out of here without doing 202 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:51,748 Speaker 6: the impression of Dan Campbell at the postgame podium. 203 00:08:52,108 --> 00:08:55,228 Speaker 1: It's just an entry It's just an entry level Jame 204 00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:56,828 Speaker 1: Gum Buffalo Bill impression. 205 00:08:56,868 --> 00:08:59,548 Speaker 7: Oh wait, was she a great big person like that? 206 00:08:59,628 --> 00:09:02,388 Speaker 1: It's just that it's the best one I got and 207 00:09:02,428 --> 00:09:04,148 Speaker 1: it is fun to do. But you gotta go way 208 00:09:04,148 --> 00:09:05,908 Speaker 1: do down here, man, you got to stand him. 209 00:09:05,908 --> 00:09:07,308 Speaker 3: Not as big as him. I'm not as well. I 210 00:09:07,348 --> 00:09:07,948 Speaker 3: don't have the hair. 211 00:09:08,788 --> 00:09:11,428 Speaker 1: It's down here, man, Jamie, what have we got? The 212 00:09:11,428 --> 00:09:14,108 Speaker 1: third question has been a good third on Thursday. 213 00:09:14,188 --> 00:09:18,308 Speaker 2: You also engage your traps every time, Dan Campbell, you know, it's. 214 00:09:18,588 --> 00:09:21,588 Speaker 3: Trying to make them bigger. And that impression trying to. 215 00:09:21,548 --> 00:09:24,388 Speaker 1: Make them bigger was like ko, it was perfect. 216 00:09:24,468 --> 00:09:27,268 Speaker 2: Well on everybody, all right, We've got two quarterbacks playing 217 00:09:27,268 --> 00:09:29,308 Speaker 2: in their forties. I think I'm done saying that. I 218 00:09:29,348 --> 00:09:30,348 Speaker 2: think enough times. 219 00:09:30,388 --> 00:09:30,788 Speaker 3: That's it. 220 00:09:31,548 --> 00:09:35,108 Speaker 2: Which decade would you rather relive? We're not going to 221 00:09:35,188 --> 00:09:37,748 Speaker 2: talk about your forties right now. Would you rather relive 222 00:09:37,908 --> 00:09:39,988 Speaker 2: your twenties, man, Tai. 223 00:09:40,908 --> 00:09:43,268 Speaker 3: Or your thirties? What a question? 224 00:09:43,508 --> 00:09:47,788 Speaker 2: I immediately regret asking years old, twenty four. She's not 225 00:09:47,868 --> 00:09:48,788 Speaker 2: even halfway through. 226 00:09:48,908 --> 00:09:50,828 Speaker 5: So I'm not even halfway through my thirties. 227 00:09:50,948 --> 00:09:52,868 Speaker 3: You can reject what it might be. Let's talk about 228 00:09:52,868 --> 00:09:55,708 Speaker 3: my twenties. Okay, let's talk about my twenties. 229 00:09:55,908 --> 00:09:58,788 Speaker 5: I think I lived one hundred different lives in my twenties. 230 00:09:59,388 --> 00:10:02,148 Speaker 5: You talk about going from highs to the mids, to 231 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:05,348 Speaker 5: lows and back up. I go to Notre Game, one 232 00:10:05,388 --> 00:10:08,708 Speaker 5: of the most prestigious colleges in all of the world, 233 00:10:08,988 --> 00:10:11,748 Speaker 5: and I have a prestigious call, a really good career there. 234 00:10:11,868 --> 00:10:14,468 Speaker 5: My last year was able to help my team get 235 00:10:14,548 --> 00:10:17,108 Speaker 5: us to the national championship, a Heisman finalist. 236 00:10:17,588 --> 00:10:18,668 Speaker 3: So at top of the top. 237 00:10:18,788 --> 00:10:21,708 Speaker 5: And then the cat fishing stuff comes up after that, 238 00:10:22,068 --> 00:10:25,268 Speaker 5: and so from what was so high, now we're low 239 00:10:25,948 --> 00:10:29,308 Speaker 5: and we're trying to battle that. And then I get drafted, 240 00:10:29,388 --> 00:10:32,668 Speaker 5: thank goodness, get drafted to the then San Diego Chargers. 241 00:10:32,308 --> 00:10:33,388 Speaker 3: A dream come true. 242 00:10:33,948 --> 00:10:37,308 Speaker 5: I struggle for my first three years there, start to 243 00:10:37,308 --> 00:10:40,828 Speaker 5: get my stride a little bit. In my contract year, Philly, 244 00:10:40,948 --> 00:10:44,468 Speaker 5: really really good guys. I'm averaging over ten tackles in 245 00:10:44,548 --> 00:10:47,908 Speaker 5: the first two games of the season. Third game comes along, 246 00:10:47,948 --> 00:10:52,068 Speaker 5: We're in Indianapolis and I popped my achilles, and I. 247 00:10:52,028 --> 00:10:53,908 Speaker 3: Think we have to play right here. 248 00:10:55,028 --> 00:10:57,588 Speaker 2: Do you want to relive your go down? 249 00:10:57,748 --> 00:10:58,748 Speaker 3: Oh no, look at you. 250 00:10:59,308 --> 00:11:01,948 Speaker 5: This is the second that's the third game in my 251 00:11:02,068 --> 00:11:04,948 Speaker 5: contract year. I go to plant my left and my 252 00:11:04,988 --> 00:11:09,268 Speaker 5: achilles pops and I'm down. It was you talk about 253 00:11:09,308 --> 00:11:10,108 Speaker 5: a roller coaster. 254 00:11:10,668 --> 00:11:11,268 Speaker 3: This is my. 255 00:11:11,268 --> 00:11:12,108 Speaker 5: Twenties, right. 256 00:11:12,228 --> 00:11:14,028 Speaker 2: Let me guess, Mantai, you're gonna tell us that you're 257 00:11:14,028 --> 00:11:15,348 Speaker 2: gonna want to do it again, because. 258 00:11:15,108 --> 00:11:17,268 Speaker 3: It's how you just hold on, jam hold on, hold on. 259 00:11:17,308 --> 00:11:20,348 Speaker 5: So after this, I signed with the Saints, have a 260 00:11:20,348 --> 00:11:23,148 Speaker 5: great career with the Saints. I finished my career in Chicago. 261 00:11:23,828 --> 00:11:28,228 Speaker 5: Everything is great. But in my thirties, I get married 262 00:11:28,268 --> 00:11:32,308 Speaker 5: to my wife. Yeah, I have two beautiful children. And 263 00:11:32,388 --> 00:11:35,628 Speaker 5: so if I had to go, there's my gang right there. 264 00:11:36,468 --> 00:11:39,308 Speaker 5: If I had to hamble between my twenties and my thirties, 265 00:11:39,948 --> 00:11:42,308 Speaker 5: there's no greater love than I have for those human 266 00:11:42,308 --> 00:11:44,708 Speaker 5: beings in that picture, Like, no greater passion. 267 00:11:45,108 --> 00:11:46,548 Speaker 3: And then I get this job. 268 00:11:47,068 --> 00:11:50,268 Speaker 5: Guys, outlive my thirties every single day, you know, over 269 00:11:50,348 --> 00:11:53,108 Speaker 5: and over on repeat. So to answer the question, I 270 00:11:53,148 --> 00:11:55,308 Speaker 5: had a great twenties, A lot of lessons learned in 271 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:58,708 Speaker 5: my twenties. But my thirties, guys, we're just getting started. 272 00:11:59,188 --> 00:12:00,268 Speaker 5: I gotta go my thirties. 273 00:12:00,828 --> 00:12:03,148 Speaker 6: I Oh, God's day, do I follow that? 274 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:03,748 Speaker 1: Look like? 275 00:12:05,028 --> 00:12:10,428 Speaker 3: Yeah, give him one for me. Yeah, big squeeze, the 276 00:12:10,588 --> 00:12:11,468 Speaker 3: big squeeze. 277 00:12:12,108 --> 00:12:14,108 Speaker 6: But it does raise First of it is the greatest 278 00:12:14,188 --> 00:12:15,708 Speaker 6: question in the history of Good Morning for pall here, 279 00:12:15,708 --> 00:12:16,708 Speaker 6: because there's. 280 00:12:16,508 --> 00:12:17,948 Speaker 3: So many talk about layers. 281 00:12:18,588 --> 00:12:20,868 Speaker 6: Can we change what we did or we've got to 282 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:23,348 Speaker 6: do it by the book. And you may say you 283 00:12:23,348 --> 00:12:26,828 Speaker 6: your twenties and like dudes out there giving high fives, like, yeah, 284 00:12:26,868 --> 00:12:29,548 Speaker 6: I get to be single again. But then, like I 285 00:12:29,588 --> 00:12:32,148 Speaker 6: thought about last week, Kyle, you brought up Mister Destiny, 286 00:12:32,668 --> 00:12:36,668 Speaker 6: the movie where he's then Jim Blush's going to recurt 287 00:12:36,828 --> 00:12:38,628 Speaker 6: the wife that he already had in the first place. 288 00:12:38,668 --> 00:12:40,668 Speaker 6: He's like, no, No, that's the true love of my life. 289 00:12:40,708 --> 00:12:41,228 Speaker 3: I got to go back. 290 00:12:41,228 --> 00:12:42,948 Speaker 1: I feel like it would kind of be that way because. 291 00:12:42,708 --> 00:12:45,108 Speaker 6: I met my wife in my twenties. I would probably 292 00:12:45,108 --> 00:12:47,668 Speaker 6: relive the twenties. I'd make some tweaks. 293 00:12:47,228 --> 00:12:47,668 Speaker 3: Here and there. 294 00:12:47,708 --> 00:12:49,388 Speaker 6: I don't know if again i'm bending the question, but 295 00:12:49,388 --> 00:12:50,308 Speaker 6: that's probably what I would do. 296 00:12:50,588 --> 00:12:52,868 Speaker 1: Give me a little more taste, why white twenties? 297 00:12:52,908 --> 00:12:55,868 Speaker 3: Just more fun out there? No, No, not more fun. 298 00:12:55,988 --> 00:12:58,548 Speaker 6: As matter of fact, I probably I would have more fun. 299 00:12:58,628 --> 00:13:00,588 Speaker 6: I think I was too busy working. 300 00:13:00,668 --> 00:13:00,908 Speaker 3: I was. 301 00:13:00,948 --> 00:13:03,108 Speaker 6: I was too focused on the professional stick kit, which 302 00:13:03,148 --> 00:13:04,308 Speaker 6: got me here. 303 00:13:04,708 --> 00:13:06,588 Speaker 3: What's up, dude, happy to be next yeact. 304 00:13:06,388 --> 00:13:08,028 Speaker 6: To see you, So I'd probably make it look I 305 00:13:08,068 --> 00:13:09,068 Speaker 6: probably would have a little. 306 00:13:08,868 --> 00:13:09,788 Speaker 3: Bit more fun in my twenties. 307 00:13:09,828 --> 00:13:11,628 Speaker 1: I like to hear that, and I think this, it's 308 00:13:11,668 --> 00:13:14,348 Speaker 1: just so funny that Manti Teo, in his very Manti way, 309 00:13:14,388 --> 00:13:18,108 Speaker 1: gives this very thoughtful and cerebral reflection back on the 310 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:21,188 Speaker 1: lessons that he learned and the hardships that he endured. 311 00:13:22,028 --> 00:13:22,508 Speaker 3: And then there's me. 312 00:13:22,548 --> 00:13:24,388 Speaker 1: You want to see picture of me in my twenties, Manti, 313 00:13:24,548 --> 00:13:26,868 Speaker 1: I answer, I answer you with this, go ahead, bring 314 00:13:26,868 --> 00:13:27,108 Speaker 1: it out. 315 00:13:28,348 --> 00:13:32,628 Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, I mean, what was that saying? 316 00:13:32,828 --> 00:13:37,268 Speaker 1: Affliction affliction? Yeah, So I just put that in there 317 00:13:37,308 --> 00:13:39,828 Speaker 1: as a palate cleanser after a Manti's beautiful meal. I'm 318 00:13:39,868 --> 00:13:42,628 Speaker 1: just giving you like a four loco basically like that 319 00:13:42,748 --> 00:13:45,068 Speaker 1: was an all time tough era for me. Here's what 320 00:13:45,108 --> 00:13:46,868 Speaker 1: I would say now, I think we've had enough of 321 00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:51,028 Speaker 1: the picture bracelet, Yeah, the leather bridge, ye, the shirt. 322 00:13:51,108 --> 00:13:53,188 Speaker 1: I wouldn't don't leave home without the leather bracelet, would 323 00:13:53,228 --> 00:13:55,708 Speaker 1: not leave home without it. I just I would say 324 00:13:55,708 --> 00:13:57,188 Speaker 1: that I think it's a very cool thing tonight that 325 00:13:57,228 --> 00:13:59,948 Speaker 1: these two guys over forty are playing each other and 326 00:14:00,028 --> 00:14:02,988 Speaker 1: on this national stage. And I like Joe flaccowinneron Rogers 327 00:14:02,988 --> 00:14:05,428 Speaker 1: because they have a character ristic which I find very 328 00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:07,468 Speaker 1: attractive in people who are getting to middle agent that 329 00:14:07,468 --> 00:14:08,988 Speaker 1: they are very secure with it. 330 00:14:08,988 --> 00:14:10,788 Speaker 3: It has never been cooler. 331 00:14:10,348 --> 00:14:12,628 Speaker 1: For someone to be okay with how old they are 332 00:14:12,868 --> 00:14:16,588 Speaker 1: mentally physically across the board. I think it's an awesome, 333 00:14:16,628 --> 00:14:19,628 Speaker 1: awesome quality and they're completely secure, and you don't see 334 00:14:19,628 --> 00:14:23,108 Speaker 1: that much anymore now. As for the question twenties or thirties, 335 00:14:23,468 --> 00:14:26,548 Speaker 1: my answer would undoubtedly be I'd rather relive my twenties, 336 00:14:26,548 --> 00:14:29,148 Speaker 1: but not to do more beer funnels and ice loses 337 00:14:29,148 --> 00:14:32,548 Speaker 1: and Vegas trips. It would just be do try things, 338 00:14:32,708 --> 00:14:34,668 Speaker 1: experiment even more than I did, and I had a 339 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,628 Speaker 1: wild set of twenties. I look at young people right 340 00:14:36,668 --> 00:14:37,908 Speaker 1: now and I know several of them, I have them 341 00:14:37,908 --> 00:14:42,708 Speaker 1: in my family. I think they are bound by grind culture. 342 00:14:42,828 --> 00:14:45,068 Speaker 1: I think they're terrified of AI. They got all these 343 00:14:45,108 --> 00:14:46,828 Speaker 1: difficult things. I just would look at them and I'm like, 344 00:14:47,588 --> 00:14:50,308 Speaker 1: believe me, young people, you have the one thing that 345 00:14:50,308 --> 00:14:52,348 Speaker 1: the richest people in the world do not have and 346 00:14:52,388 --> 00:14:54,148 Speaker 1: would spend any amount of money to have. 347 00:14:54,748 --> 00:14:55,068 Speaker 3: Time. 348 00:14:55,588 --> 00:14:59,268 Speaker 1: You have time, please use it, make bold choices, make 349 00:14:59,308 --> 00:15:02,308 Speaker 1: crazy choices. Right now in your life, most likely you 350 00:15:02,388 --> 00:15:07,468 Speaker 1: do not have a spouse, a kids, a mortgage, elderly parents. 351 00:15:07,948 --> 00:15:09,828 Speaker 1: In ten years you may have all those things, and 352 00:15:09,868 --> 00:15:12,028 Speaker 1: many of them are wonderful, but they're not exactly good 353 00:15:12,068 --> 00:15:15,508 Speaker 1: for chasing your dreams and taking risks and eskewing convention. 354 00:15:15,828 --> 00:15:17,708 Speaker 1: So if you're watching this right now and you're twenty nine, 355 00:15:17,748 --> 00:15:21,308 Speaker 1: you're twenty two, you're twenty, please don't be stressed. 356 00:15:20,908 --> 00:15:22,188 Speaker 3: About I need to do this in this or my 357 00:15:22,228 --> 00:15:23,148 Speaker 3: life's not going to work out. 358 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:27,148 Speaker 1: Make crazy choices, make irresponsible choices. Just do it, because 359 00:15:27,188 --> 00:15:28,988 Speaker 1: twenties are the pre party of life. 360 00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:31,428 Speaker 3: Who cares you're not even at the party yet. Take 361 00:15:31,468 --> 00:15:32,468 Speaker 3: a swing out of your shoes. 362 00:15:32,508 --> 00:15:33,988 Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the fair way, maybe it's in the water, 363 00:15:34,028 --> 00:15:35,108 Speaker 1: but at least you swung. 364 00:15:35,308 --> 00:15:37,748 Speaker 2: In the spirit of having as many Well done, Kyle, 365 00:15:37,948 --> 00:15:41,108 Speaker 2: well done. Everybody actually in the studio was slapping as 366 00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:43,628 Speaker 2: you were going, we're beginning to clap. Have as many 367 00:15:43,668 --> 00:15:45,508 Speaker 2: line items as you can on your LinkedIn, I think, 368 00:15:45,588 --> 00:15:47,788 Speaker 2: is what Kyle's saying, Like, do all the things, try 369 00:15:47,828 --> 00:15:50,548 Speaker 2: all the experiences, and also like you know a couple 370 00:15:50,548 --> 00:15:52,828 Speaker 2: of line items that don't belong on the professional resume 371 00:15:52,908 --> 00:15:57,548 Speaker 2: as well. Try that out for size. Well done, everybody, Congratulations, Damy. 372 00:15:57,588 --> 00:15:59,348 Speaker 6: Can I wrap this into a nice little bow? I 373 00:15:59,428 --> 00:16:02,268 Speaker 6: got bout debating this with the producer a producer bill 374 00:16:02,268 --> 00:16:04,388 Speaker 6: before the show, and he's like, you got to really 375 00:16:04,388 --> 00:16:06,028 Speaker 6: lived the part of your life where your kids were born, 376 00:16:06,068 --> 00:16:07,348 Speaker 6: otherwise you're a terrible person. 377 00:16:07,388 --> 00:16:09,748 Speaker 3: Well, I picked my twenties. My kids were born. Well, 378 00:16:09,868 --> 00:16:11,068 Speaker 3: one kid was born in the thirties. 379 00:16:11,228 --> 00:16:12,908 Speaker 6: As Manti is going through it, he's in my ear. 380 00:16:12,908 --> 00:16:17,348 Speaker 6: He goes see Manti, good dude, person, Mike and I 381 00:16:17,628 --> 00:16:18,788 Speaker 6: are heenens. 382 00:16:22,068 --> 00:16:22,268 Speaker 5: Mike. 383 00:16:22,308 --> 00:16:25,108 Speaker 2: I'll back you up as she who has delivered the 384 00:16:25,148 --> 00:16:27,588 Speaker 2: three children. I would do my twenties again, even though 385 00:16:27,588 --> 00:16:30,748 Speaker 2: they all came in my thirties, like, because so much 386 00:16:30,748 --> 00:16:35,108 Speaker 2: of the thirties becomes about them, about other people in 387 00:16:35,148 --> 00:16:36,988 Speaker 2: your life, and that's okay. There's a time and a 388 00:16:37,028 --> 00:16:39,308 Speaker 2: place for that, and there's no part of me in 389 00:16:39,308 --> 00:16:41,468 Speaker 2: my twenties that I should have been having children responsible 390 00:16:41,508 --> 00:16:42,788 Speaker 2: for other people and people. 391 00:16:42,628 --> 00:16:43,228 Speaker 3: Relying on me. 392 00:16:43,348 --> 00:16:45,668 Speaker 2: So I would relate the twenties, relive the twenties, just 393 00:16:45,708 --> 00:16:49,188 Speaker 2: to have that experience again. Because you're allowed to be selfish, 394 00:16:49,268 --> 00:16:52,788 Speaker 2: self centered at times, self focused, and then when you 395 00:16:52,788 --> 00:16:54,108 Speaker 2: have your kids you can go on and make your 396 00:16:54,148 --> 00:16:57,348 Speaker 2: life about them the way Manti so eloquently did. Before 397 00:16:57,348 --> 00:16:58,748 Speaker 2: we get back to rap sheet, can I see the 398 00:16:58,828 --> 00:17:00,468 Speaker 2: leather bracelet one more time? Just because I like to 399 00:17:00,468 --> 00:17:02,388 Speaker 2: make Kyle squirm, you know, I like to see just 400 00:17:02,468 --> 00:17:05,788 Speaker 2: Affliction there, thank you. That's so ready. They knew I 401 00:17:05,828 --> 00:17:08,348 Speaker 2: was going to ask for it again. Gosh, Kyle, So 402 00:17:08,468 --> 00:17:09,668 Speaker 2: that guy is just know. 403 00:17:09,828 --> 00:17:10,468 Speaker 3: That's that, Jamie. 404 00:17:10,548 --> 00:17:13,428 Speaker 1: That isn't something in LA called a gift boutique where 405 00:17:13,428 --> 00:17:15,468 Speaker 1: if you're on some list you get a bracelet on 406 00:17:15,548 --> 00:17:17,868 Speaker 1: my right hack wearing it, you're just I'm holding it 407 00:17:17,908 --> 00:17:20,748 Speaker 1: up because the people I went you go to tent 408 00:17:20,828 --> 00:17:22,628 Speaker 1: to tent and they're like, hey, are you sort of 409 00:17:22,628 --> 00:17:25,948 Speaker 1: famous or very famous? Here, I'll give you some free stuff. 410 00:17:25,948 --> 00:17:28,588 Speaker 1: I remember I was standing next to Shannon Elizabeth was 411 00:17:28,588 --> 00:17:31,588 Speaker 1: there from American Pie, Nicole Egert was there from Charles 412 00:17:31,628 --> 00:17:33,948 Speaker 1: in Charge, and then Kyle Brand from Days of Her 413 00:17:33,988 --> 00:17:35,748 Speaker 1: Life Who Gives a Crap? And I got a free 414 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,468 Speaker 1: Affliction shirt and I thought, I want to lottery. 415 00:17:37,828 --> 00:17:40,148 Speaker 2: You probably got free sunglasses too. That's holding your great 416 00:17:40,148 --> 00:17:43,228 Speaker 2: hairline back as well. I see those man, It's perfect 417 00:17:43,588 --> 00:17:46,868 Speaker 2: on everybody, rap sheet. If you would like to participate 418 00:17:46,868 --> 00:17:49,108 Speaker 2: in this question, you may otherwise what are the forty 419 00:17:49,148 --> 00:17:51,028 Speaker 2: nine ers planning with their quarterback this week? 420 00:17:53,188 --> 00:17:56,748 Speaker 4: I'll participate very quickly because I don't have as much 421 00:17:56,748 --> 00:17:59,708 Speaker 4: to say as you guys very eloquently did. My kids 422 00:17:59,748 --> 00:18:02,828 Speaker 4: were born when I was in my thirties. I love 423 00:18:02,908 --> 00:18:05,788 Speaker 4: them dearly. They're a great kids. Twenties is where it's at. 424 00:18:06,868 --> 00:18:09,948 Speaker 4: I was living in Mississippi once I moved out of 425 00:18:09,948 --> 00:18:12,548 Speaker 4: my parents' house. Those twenties were not as well. Living 426 00:18:12,548 --> 00:18:17,028 Speaker 4: in Mississippi in Starfield College Town, living in Tuscalusa College Town. 427 00:18:17,428 --> 00:18:20,388 Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend that I just met who was 428 00:18:20,468 --> 00:18:23,388 Speaker 4: so fun and awesome, and we partied a lot, and 429 00:18:23,428 --> 00:18:26,708 Speaker 4: I worked NonStop, but we still partied a lot, and 430 00:18:26,828 --> 00:18:29,868 Speaker 4: I had no responsibilities except for my job and to 431 00:18:29,948 --> 00:18:34,028 Speaker 4: hang out with this girl who's awesome, and I wasn't 432 00:18:34,028 --> 00:18:35,348 Speaker 4: on Twitter NonStop. 433 00:18:35,548 --> 00:18:38,948 Speaker 3: Is it your wife now? Hopefully? Okay? 434 00:18:38,988 --> 00:18:39,508 Speaker 1: I married her? 435 00:18:39,548 --> 00:18:42,428 Speaker 4: Ben Wow, I thought she was my girlfriend back then. 436 00:18:43,668 --> 00:18:46,108 Speaker 3: Rap sheet, rat sheet, We just yeah. 437 00:18:45,988 --> 00:18:49,228 Speaker 2: Rap sheet just pause for like thoughts from the table 438 00:18:49,268 --> 00:18:52,388 Speaker 2: or commentary about a man who's in his twenties living back. 439 00:18:52,228 --> 00:18:53,068 Speaker 3: In the college town. 440 00:18:53,108 --> 00:18:54,948 Speaker 2: I just want to ask anybody else if that popped 441 00:18:54,988 --> 00:18:57,108 Speaker 2: up on their radar, Like sometimes that can get like 442 00:18:57,108 --> 00:18:59,388 Speaker 2: a little like, what's he doing here? He's young, but 443 00:18:59,428 --> 00:19:00,908 Speaker 2: he's not at the college. As I go to the 444 00:19:00,948 --> 00:19:04,348 Speaker 2: college like starkfille Tusklosa rap sheets in his twenties, you're 445 00:19:04,588 --> 00:19:06,748 Speaker 2: starting to make it as a football writer. But like 446 00:19:06,948 --> 00:19:09,068 Speaker 2: that one hit the radar. Puney a little bit, got 447 00:19:09,068 --> 00:19:09,588 Speaker 2: some money. 448 00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:13,468 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I was just cruising by high school. 449 00:19:13,588 --> 00:19:15,668 Speaker 3: I didn't do that at all. 450 00:19:18,748 --> 00:19:20,908 Speaker 4: People knew who I was in the college town, and 451 00:19:21,148 --> 00:19:22,948 Speaker 4: I didn't have any money when I was in Mississippi. 452 00:19:22,988 --> 00:19:25,388 Speaker 4: But in Alabama I made fifty five thousand dollars. 453 00:19:25,628 --> 00:19:26,508 Speaker 3: I am rich. 454 00:19:27,628 --> 00:19:31,748 Speaker 4: I was rich, that was, but then I had my girlfriend, 455 00:19:31,788 --> 00:19:33,868 Speaker 4: so there wasn't any intermingling. 456 00:19:34,308 --> 00:19:39,988 Speaker 2: Dollar beers hit different fifty five k you know, go ahead, wrapt. 457 00:19:40,588 --> 00:19:44,348 Speaker 4: So anyway, Team twenties. I do love my kids though. 458 00:19:44,348 --> 00:19:46,788 Speaker 4: All right, let's talk about the San Francisco forty nine 459 00:19:46,868 --> 00:19:50,868 Speaker 4: ers and their quarterback situation. Speaking of players in their twenties, 460 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:53,948 Speaker 4: I guess Rock Purty was back at practice. 461 00:19:53,628 --> 00:19:54,948 Speaker 3: Of the forty nine ers, coming. 462 00:19:54,748 --> 00:19:57,828 Speaker 4: Back from that turf toe injury, described by Kyle Shanahan 463 00:19:57,908 --> 00:20:02,468 Speaker 4: as not limited but very limited, more limited than mac Jones. 464 00:20:02,508 --> 00:20:05,068 Speaker 4: He was also in practice deal within a injury dealing 465 00:20:05,068 --> 00:20:07,828 Speaker 4: with knee injury. Seems to me to put mac Jones 466 00:20:07,868 --> 00:20:10,588 Speaker 4: in as the starting quarterback once again. They do not 467 00:20:10,788 --> 00:20:15,508 Speaker 4: want brock Purty to suffer another relapse, another injury, another reaggravations. 468 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:20,308 Speaker 4: Certainly seems like mac Jones once again. George Kittle also. 469 00:20:20,108 --> 00:20:20,988 Speaker 3: Back at practice. 470 00:20:21,028 --> 00:20:23,628 Speaker 4: He has been designated to return off i AR deal 471 00:20:23,668 --> 00:20:26,308 Speaker 4: with that hamstring injury. If all goes well, he could 472 00:20:26,348 --> 00:20:29,868 Speaker 4: play this week, and what an absolute boost that would 473 00:20:29,908 --> 00:20:31,868 Speaker 4: be for the San Francisco forty nine is one of 474 00:20:31,908 --> 00:20:36,108 Speaker 4: the best tight ends in the NFL. For the Dallas Cowboys, 475 00:20:36,428 --> 00:20:39,428 Speaker 4: Cede Lamb, their star receiver, was also back to practice. 476 00:20:39,428 --> 00:20:41,708 Speaker 4: Remember he is dealing with a high ankle sprain from 477 00:20:41,708 --> 00:20:43,668 Speaker 4: that hip drop tackle right there. 478 00:20:43,868 --> 00:20:45,908 Speaker 3: We'll see you if he's able to play this week. 479 00:20:45,948 --> 00:20:46,828 Speaker 3: The describe him. 480 00:20:46,668 --> 00:20:49,588 Speaker 4: As being very involved in the walkthrough and about to 481 00:20:49,588 --> 00:20:52,068 Speaker 4: play your rival. So you wonder how much gamesmanship is there. 482 00:20:52,068 --> 00:20:53,428 Speaker 3: But at least Seede was. 483 00:20:53,348 --> 00:20:56,308 Speaker 4: Back at practice and has a chance. And then for 484 00:20:56,428 --> 00:21:00,148 Speaker 4: the Rams, poop and Nakou, who's dealing with a. 485 00:21:00,108 --> 00:21:01,148 Speaker 3: Low ankle sprain. 486 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:04,228 Speaker 4: Our understanding, this is something I reported with Mike, is 487 00:21:04,228 --> 00:21:06,948 Speaker 4: that he is more like doubtful for this week than 488 00:21:06,988 --> 00:21:07,548 Speaker 4: anything else. 489 00:21:07,748 --> 00:21:09,308 Speaker 3: Was not at practice yesterday. 490 00:21:09,308 --> 00:21:12,188 Speaker 4: It's generally seems like a strong possibility that the Rams 491 00:21:12,268 --> 00:21:14,588 Speaker 4: won't have him this week as to buy after that, 492 00:21:14,748 --> 00:21:16,468 Speaker 4: so we can heal up and be ready for after 493 00:21:16,468 --> 00:21:17,308 Speaker 4: the buye. 494 00:21:19,628 --> 00:21:23,228 Speaker 2: Top ten all time great movie characters. Captain Jack Sparrow 495 00:21:23,308 --> 00:21:27,708 Speaker 2: once said me, I'm a dishonest man. You can always 496 00:21:27,828 --> 00:21:31,588 Speaker 2: trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Jack Sparrow's character 497 00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:34,908 Speaker 2: was quirky and eccentric, but he was playing a character. 498 00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:37,508 Speaker 2: But what's happening in Tampa Bay right now is as 499 00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:38,788 Speaker 2: close to the truth as. 500 00:21:38,628 --> 00:21:39,188 Speaker 3: You can get. 501 00:21:39,308 --> 00:21:43,188 Speaker 2: A franchise that has been rejuvenated again by the play 502 00:21:43,228 --> 00:21:44,668 Speaker 2: of a larger than life quarterback. 503 00:21:44,748 --> 00:21:45,628 Speaker 3: But this is not. 504 00:21:46,308 --> 00:21:50,428 Speaker 2: Main character energy anymore. This is about the man who 505 00:21:50,508 --> 00:21:54,188 Speaker 2: stands behind the captain of the ship and whispers directions 506 00:21:54,348 --> 00:21:55,228 Speaker 2: in his ear. 507 00:21:55,708 --> 00:21:57,188 Speaker 3: This way the wind is blowing. 508 00:21:57,268 --> 00:22:00,468 Speaker 2: This is how you run the offense. Here's Baker with 509 00:22:00,508 --> 00:22:03,628 Speaker 2: the birder on his shoulder, and this is Josh Brizard 510 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:06,708 Speaker 2: a thirty five years of age. Josh Bazzard is the 511 00:22:06,748 --> 00:22:09,428 Speaker 2: youngest offensive play caller in the NFL this season. The 512 00:22:09,468 --> 00:22:11,668 Speaker 2: average age of OC's this year's forty five. 513 00:22:11,828 --> 00:22:13,788 Speaker 3: He's thirty five. He took over in. 514 00:22:13,708 --> 00:22:17,668 Speaker 2: February after Liam Cohen took off from Tampa, headed northup 515 00:22:17,668 --> 00:22:19,988 Speaker 2: seventy five bank Or Wright and became the head coach 516 00:22:19,988 --> 00:22:23,468 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. Cohen only had the OC job in Tampa 517 00:22:23,548 --> 00:22:26,908 Speaker 2: for a year after Dave Kanalis went to take the 518 00:22:26,948 --> 00:22:29,708 Speaker 2: head coaching job for the Panthers. He called plays in 519 00:22:29,748 --> 00:22:32,468 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, and now we're in 520 00:22:32,508 --> 00:22:36,748 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Someone who abandons their cannon on a 521 00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:39,148 Speaker 2: pirate ship, you gotta be able to step right up 522 00:22:39,188 --> 00:22:41,748 Speaker 2: at a moment's notice and execute Q. 523 00:22:41,868 --> 00:22:42,628 Speaker 3: Josh Grizzard. 524 00:22:42,748 --> 00:22:45,748 Speaker 2: This guy is brilliant, and not just wonder lick football kid, 525 00:22:45,788 --> 00:22:49,628 Speaker 2: whiz kid. Brilliant brilliant like graduated as a high school 526 00:22:49,708 --> 00:22:52,788 Speaker 2: victorian with a four to six' THREE, gpa a four 527 00:22:52,828 --> 00:22:55,388 Speaker 2: time class, president who lettered five times in football and, 528 00:22:55,468 --> 00:22:57,788 Speaker 2: hoops and all of this done in the town that 529 00:22:57,868 --> 00:23:01,588 Speaker 2: got its first stop light in nineteen ninety. Seven Lizard, 530 00:23:01,628 --> 00:23:04,068 Speaker 2: Lick North. CAROLINA i honestly can't same that name. 531 00:23:04,148 --> 00:23:05,588 Speaker 3: Enough and IF i. 532 00:23:05,588 --> 00:23:09,828 Speaker 2: May fully Judge Lizard, Lick North carolina by its, cover 533 00:23:10,108 --> 00:23:12,028 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i know you're already doing, it you have to 534 00:23:12,068 --> 00:23:15,668 Speaker 2: imagine the culture shock to go From Lizard lick To New, Haven. 535 00:23:15,748 --> 00:23:19,868 Speaker 2: Connecticut When brizard enrolled At yale to play football and 536 00:23:19,948 --> 00:23:22,948 Speaker 2: to continue being, smart he, plays he, graduates he stays 537 00:23:22,988 --> 00:23:24,988 Speaker 2: in town At yale to get into, coaching but then 538 00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:28,588 Speaker 2: at twenty twenty, Three, brizard still working the college, ranks 539 00:23:28,628 --> 00:23:32,268 Speaker 2: gets A ga quality control job In, Durham North, carolina 540 00:23:32,388 --> 00:23:35,748 Speaker 2: just fifty miles From Lizard. Lick for three, Years brizard 541 00:23:35,788 --> 00:23:37,948 Speaker 2: hung around the, offense where he worked with the only 542 00:23:38,028 --> 00:23:40,988 Speaker 2: quarterback drafted in the first round out Of duke since 543 00:23:41,108 --> 00:23:46,628 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty, Seven Daniel. Jones in twenty, seventeen after working 544 00:23:46,708 --> 00:23:50,628 Speaker 2: At duke With, Jones brizard takes his next step in 545 00:23:50,788 --> 00:23:54,748 Speaker 2: quality controlling job In South, beach where he actually worked 546 00:23:54,948 --> 00:23:59,108 Speaker 2: across two coaching regimes instead of fully clearing. House in 547 00:23:59,148 --> 00:24:03,028 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Two mike, McDaniel a Fellow yale alump where 548 00:24:03,028 --> 00:24:07,788 Speaker 2: Tames brizard's pass game brainiac, services but this only lasted 549 00:24:07,828 --> 00:24:12,428 Speaker 2: two ACADEMIC nay football. Seasons in twenty twenty, Three Liam 550 00:24:12,468 --> 00:24:15,188 Speaker 2: cohen is now hired AS oc In tampa and he 551 00:24:15,268 --> 00:24:18,188 Speaker 2: Takes Josh bazzard away From miami and gives him the 552 00:24:18,268 --> 00:24:22,588 Speaker 2: passing game coordinator, job working closely Alongside Baker. Mayfield in, 553 00:24:22,628 --> 00:24:25,708 Speaker 2: Fact cohen Trusted grizzard so much that in his first, 554 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,668 Speaker 2: Season Josh brazzard is in charge of third down play, 555 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:31,788 Speaker 2: calls and last year with that on his, plate The 556 00:24:31,788 --> 00:24:34,948 Speaker 2: buccaneers led THE nfl with a fifty one percent conversion 557 00:24:34,988 --> 00:24:38,148 Speaker 2: rate on third. Down so On february, first twenty twenty, 558 00:24:38,188 --> 00:24:41,508 Speaker 2: Five Liam cohen goes To jacksonville And Todd bowles has 559 00:24:41,948 --> 00:24:44,468 Speaker 2: decision to, make and when he, does he says this 560 00:24:44,588 --> 00:24:48,748 Speaker 2: About Josh. Grizzard after interviewing several candidates outside the, building 561 00:24:48,948 --> 00:24:51,828 Speaker 2: it ultimately became clear to me that our best option 562 00:24:52,028 --> 00:24:54,988 Speaker 2: was here In Tampa. Bay that's from the head. Coach 563 00:24:55,068 --> 00:24:57,508 Speaker 2: sounds like a no brainer to. ME a month, later 564 00:24:57,588 --> 00:25:00,988 Speaker 2: at the, Combine cohen is asked About grizzard taking over 565 00:25:01,068 --> 00:25:03,188 Speaker 2: as The BUCKS oc and he, Says josh is up 566 00:25:03,228 --> 00:25:06,548 Speaker 2: there in terms OF i you and football. Knowledge the 567 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:08,948 Speaker 2: ability to see, it to design, it and be able 568 00:25:08,988 --> 00:25:11,988 Speaker 2: to communicate it to the. Guys you, know he's primed for. 569 00:25:12,068 --> 00:25:16,228 Speaker 2: This cohen sens, It bowles knew, it and Now baker 570 00:25:16,468 --> 00:25:17,068 Speaker 2: is feeling. 571 00:25:17,108 --> 00:25:18,668 Speaker 3: It so it shouldn't. 572 00:25:18,268 --> 00:25:21,188 Speaker 2: Matter now That baker is the first starting quarterback ever 573 00:25:21,348 --> 00:25:24,708 Speaker 2: to have eight different offensive coordinators in his first eight 574 00:25:24,788 --> 00:25:28,148 Speaker 2: seasons as a starting, QUOTE. Qb that's the life of a. 575 00:25:28,228 --> 00:25:30,348 Speaker 3: Pirate you fight in the sea of. 576 00:25:30,508 --> 00:25:34,068 Speaker 2: Change next up with the guy next to you to 577 00:25:34,188 --> 00:25:39,588 Speaker 2: Avoid Davy jones's, locker, Everybody Josh Gazard colin plays Now 578 00:25:39,668 --> 00:25:41,748 Speaker 2: Baker mayfield fighting for his life out, there and The 579 00:25:41,788 --> 00:25:42,628 Speaker 2: bucks look good doing. 580 00:25:42,668 --> 00:25:45,828 Speaker 5: It man, Time, well what an amazing. Timeline, Huh, Dan 581 00:25:45,828 --> 00:25:47,868 Speaker 5: i'm like to be able to do all. That great, Job, 582 00:25:47,948 --> 00:25:52,388 Speaker 5: james great, Job, jane great, Job, buccaneers great, Job Josh 583 00:25:52,428 --> 00:25:56,148 Speaker 5: guzzard going through the ranks understanding what it takes to 584 00:25:56,228 --> 00:25:58,548 Speaker 5: get this thing. Happened now he's reaping all the benefits of. 585 00:25:58,588 --> 00:26:00,868 Speaker 5: It everything's meant to be so great, Job, Jane thank. 586 00:26:00,908 --> 00:26:04,388 Speaker 6: YOU a couple of years, Ago tad both had an 587 00:26:04,388 --> 00:26:08,548 Speaker 6: offensive coordinator position opening and couldn't get some people to 588 00:26:08,588 --> 00:26:11,388 Speaker 6: take the, job let alone some interviews because they, said, 589 00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:13,148 Speaker 6: well he's A Lane duck head. 590 00:26:13,148 --> 00:26:13,428 Speaker 3: Coach. 591 00:26:14,148 --> 00:26:18,348 Speaker 6: Wrong and now a couple of coordinator openings, later they're 592 00:26:18,348 --> 00:26:21,148 Speaker 6: beating down his. Door they, want, hey, look everybody's becoming 593 00:26:21,148 --> 00:26:23,348 Speaker 6: an offensive counter becoming a head coach for Todd. Balls 594 00:26:23,388 --> 00:26:26,148 Speaker 6: after it Was canalis And Liam. Cohen now you Got Josh, 595 00:26:26,148 --> 00:26:28,028 Speaker 6: grizzard a guy that they felt, confident and they, said 596 00:26:28,028 --> 00:26:29,708 Speaker 6: everybody in the outside that was trying to beat down that, 597 00:26:29,748 --> 00:26:32,588 Speaker 6: door we got our next guy in house right, Here 598 00:26:32,668 --> 00:26:33,788 Speaker 6: Josh Grizzard Jamie two. 599 00:26:33,828 --> 00:26:37,068 Speaker 1: THINGS i love a good tag on a, rant AND 600 00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:39,748 Speaker 1: i love a deep pop culture. Reference will you educate 601 00:26:39,748 --> 00:26:42,068 Speaker 1: the people who don't know what exactly Is davy jones 602 00:26:42,148 --> 00:26:43,268 Speaker 1: Locker bottom. 603 00:26:42,948 --> 00:26:44,948 Speaker 2: Of The, Sea bottom of The. Sea if you are 604 00:26:45,028 --> 00:26:47,228 Speaker 2: taken down and your ship and the ship goes down 605 00:26:47,308 --> 00:26:50,068 Speaker 2: due to cannon due to pirates taking, over don't find 606 00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:53,268 Speaker 2: yourself In Davy jones's. Locker it's in the dark. Depths 607 00:26:53,308 --> 00:26:54,908 Speaker 2: it's kind of Where Dan CAMPBELL i said he wants 608 00:26:54,948 --> 00:26:57,908 Speaker 2: to pull people. Into sometimes the cross references are. THERE 609 00:26:58,188 --> 00:27:00,828 Speaker 2: i love me At Captain Jack sparrow. REFERENCE i believe 610 00:27:00,868 --> 00:27:03,268 Speaker 2: that one came from The curse of the Black pearl And. 611 00:27:03,388 --> 00:27:06,428 Speaker 2: KYLE i, appreciate she ate your inquiry About Davy jones's. Locker, 612 00:27:06,468 --> 00:27:08,348 Speaker 2: HOWEVER i can't believe you didn't take the low hanging 613 00:27:08,388 --> 00:27:09,668 Speaker 2: fruit of Lizard, Lick North. 614 00:27:09,668 --> 00:27:13,068 Speaker 4: Carolina, hey SOMETIMES i climb the tree and get the 615 00:27:13,108 --> 00:27:13,948 Speaker 4: classy stuff up. 616 00:27:13,948 --> 00:27:16,028 Speaker 3: There how dare you? Now it's apple picking. 617 00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:16,908 Speaker 1: SEASON i want the good. 618 00:27:16,908 --> 00:27:18,268 Speaker 3: Ones that was, great, Though, jamie thank. 619 00:27:18,308 --> 00:27:21,548 Speaker 2: YOU i appreciate that there is A Nintendo yoshi reference 620 00:27:21,588 --> 00:27:23,388 Speaker 2: With Lizard lick BECAUSE i have to get this in. 621 00:27:23,428 --> 00:27:26,148 Speaker 2: There that, yeah in the late nineties in the video 622 00:27:26,188 --> 00:27:27,028 Speaker 2: game there's something About. 623 00:27:27,068 --> 00:27:27,788 Speaker 3: Yoshi do you know. 624 00:27:27,748 --> 00:27:31,748 Speaker 1: This Reference Yoshi's, island talking About yosh's a breakout characters 625 00:27:31,788 --> 00:27:33,748 Speaker 1: maybe more represented than the Second Mario brothers. 626 00:27:33,828 --> 00:27:37,348 Speaker 3: Movie watch. Exactly there we, go all. Right that Is Josh. 627 00:27:37,348 --> 00:27:39,388 Speaker 2: Bazzard the books look, great and a lot of it 628 00:27:39,428 --> 00:27:41,548 Speaker 2: not only has to do with the, quarterback but he 629 00:27:41,628 --> 00:27:44,468 Speaker 2: who is whispering the direction in the quarterback ear that 630 00:27:44,588 --> 00:27:46,148 Speaker 2: Is Josh. Bazard everybody will be right. 631 00:27:46,188 --> 00:27:47,668 Speaker 1: Back i'm coming, football. 632 00:27:49,628 --> 00:27:49,748 Speaker 6: All. 633 00:27:49,828 --> 00:27:51,348 Speaker 3: Right this is the best you can take your. 634 00:27:51,388 --> 00:27:55,908 Speaker 1: Pick Walter, Payton Kobe, Bryant Brett, favre the Nineties Cowboys 635 00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:58,148 Speaker 1: our next guest has written about all of, them and 636 00:27:58,188 --> 00:28:01,268 Speaker 1: he's written. Prolifically and guess who's writing about, now take 637 00:28:01,268 --> 00:28:04,308 Speaker 1: a look at. This he is writing About Tupac. Shakou 638 00:28:05,388 --> 00:28:09,748 Speaker 1: that's the book Only god can judge me By Jeff. 639 00:28:09,788 --> 00:28:12,188 Speaker 1: Pearlman will he be judged by this? BOOK i hope, 640 00:28:12,228 --> 00:28:15,948 Speaker 1: so because it's amazing as. Always an old, friend an incredible. 641 00:28:15,988 --> 00:28:18,228 Speaker 1: Writer Jeff perlman and studio here In New, york say what's? 642 00:28:18,268 --> 00:28:20,548 Speaker 3: Up? Jeff do you get tired of having guests come 643 00:28:20,588 --> 00:28:22,628 Speaker 3: here talking About? Tupac, second a little old for. 644 00:28:22,588 --> 00:28:24,868 Speaker 1: You to do it every single every. Day it never gets. 645 00:28:24,908 --> 00:28:27,588 Speaker 1: Old that's why we have you. Here it brings us 646 00:28:27,588 --> 00:28:32,108 Speaker 1: to the first. Question SO i, start Sweetness kobe far. 647 00:28:32,028 --> 00:28:32,588 Speaker 7: Of all That? 648 00:28:33,068 --> 00:28:36,828 Speaker 3: Tupac, yeah why the zag? Right two? Things number, one 649 00:28:36,948 --> 00:28:38,668 Speaker 3: this is going to sound. Weird my mother in law 650 00:28:38,708 --> 00:28:41,628 Speaker 3: is Named Laura cole and she Loves tupac and for 651 00:28:41,748 --> 00:28:43,308 Speaker 3: years she's been, like you should do this, BOOK i 652 00:28:43,308 --> 00:28:46,468 Speaker 3: swear To. God so lives In. Florida she's a huge 653 00:28:46,508 --> 00:28:48,868 Speaker 3: hip hop. Fan there's, like do A tupac. Book number. 654 00:28:48,868 --> 00:28:51,908 Speaker 3: TWO i Love tupac AND i always wanted to write the. Book, 655 00:28:51,988 --> 00:28:54,148 Speaker 3: yeah it's a BOOK i always wanted to, write And 656 00:28:54,188 --> 00:28:56,668 Speaker 3: i've done, sports done, sports don. SPORTS i just want 657 00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:57,868 Speaker 3: to break out of my cell a little bit and 658 00:28:57,868 --> 00:28:58,308 Speaker 3: try something. 659 00:28:58,308 --> 00:29:00,668 Speaker 1: Different when is The Laura cole book coming? 660 00:29:00,668 --> 00:29:00,828 Speaker 4: Out? 661 00:29:00,908 --> 00:29:03,108 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah that's, next that's. 662 00:29:03,148 --> 00:29:08,628 Speaker 6: Next awesome when you, START i, mean you'd written a 663 00:29:08,668 --> 00:29:10,588 Speaker 6: lot about, sports so it's sort of you have that 664 00:29:10,988 --> 00:29:14,308 Speaker 6: structure and that roll of. DEX i guess you could 665 00:29:14,308 --> 00:29:16,388 Speaker 6: say this had to be a whole new, World like 666 00:29:16,428 --> 00:29:18,748 Speaker 6: how do you dive into that and, Say, okay we've 667 00:29:18,748 --> 00:29:19,748 Speaker 6: got to build this up from the. 668 00:29:19,788 --> 00:29:22,468 Speaker 3: Ground that's hard and it's. Interesting the thing you have 669 00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:25,348 Speaker 3: with athletes when you're writing, books that's an underrated. Thing 670 00:29:25,548 --> 00:29:27,828 Speaker 3: you have a schedule where they. Were SO i Write 671 00:29:27,828 --> 00:29:30,148 Speaker 3: Bo jackson from this year to this, YEAR i know 672 00:29:30,228 --> 00:29:32,628 Speaker 3: everywhere he was for eighty percent of the. Year same With, 673 00:29:32,668 --> 00:29:35,268 Speaker 3: far same with all these People. Tubac except for, touring 674 00:29:35,308 --> 00:29:36,948 Speaker 3: you don't. Know so it's a lot of finding old 675 00:29:37,028 --> 00:29:39,908 Speaker 3: high school, yearbooks elementary school year, books going through liner 676 00:29:39,988 --> 00:29:42,668 Speaker 3: notes of, albums and just, calling, calling, calling and trying 677 00:29:42,668 --> 00:29:45,628 Speaker 3: to recreate where he, was what he was. Doing it was, 678 00:29:45,668 --> 00:29:48,708 Speaker 3: daunting this this incredibly morbid. 679 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:50,508 Speaker 1: Question there's so many amazing things about his. Life but 680 00:29:50,508 --> 00:29:52,388 Speaker 1: a lot of people who know About tupac know about. 681 00:29:52,188 --> 00:29:53,708 Speaker 3: The end of his life and have questions about. 682 00:29:53,748 --> 00:29:56,188 Speaker 1: It so in doing the research the way that only 683 00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:57,988 Speaker 1: you do, it what is something that you? Learned or 684 00:29:57,988 --> 00:30:00,548 Speaker 1: maybe they were surprised about the death Of tubac. 685 00:30:00,268 --> 00:30:02,188 Speaker 3: All, right and there are people who disagree with me 686 00:30:02,228 --> 00:30:04,948 Speaker 3: on this About. DIEHEART i think what's surprise thing is 687 00:30:04,988 --> 00:30:09,468 Speaker 3: how all the conspiracy theories to me fall totally. Flat, 688 00:30:09,548 --> 00:30:12,948 Speaker 3: basically it's A Mike Tyson bruce seldom Fight tyson's At 689 00:30:12,988 --> 00:30:16,348 Speaker 3: this fight's a, terrible terrible. Fight tyson kills. Him after the. 690 00:30:16,388 --> 00:30:18,908 Speaker 3: Game after the fight is, Over tubac is in the 691 00:30:18,948 --> 00:30:21,268 Speaker 3: lobby of THE Mgm grant and he's with a bunch 692 00:30:21,308 --> 00:30:23,268 Speaker 3: of guys From Death Row, record Sug knight's label that 693 00:30:23,308 --> 00:30:25,988 Speaker 3: he's signed, to and they see a Guy Orlando, anderson 694 00:30:25,988 --> 00:30:28,148 Speaker 3: who is A compton, crip and a guy next To 695 00:30:28,148 --> 00:30:30,548 Speaker 3: tupac is With tupac, says that's a guy who stole 696 00:30:30,588 --> 00:30:32,708 Speaker 3: my chain because there have been an altercation in a mall. 697 00:30:32,748 --> 00:30:35,748 Speaker 3: Recently this guy was wearing a Medallion Orlando anderson ripped it. 698 00:30:35,788 --> 00:30:39,068 Speaker 3: Off two busy which guy he goes that guy right over, 699 00:30:39,068 --> 00:30:41,108 Speaker 3: there and this, Guy Orlando, anderson who was affiliated with 700 00:30:41,148 --> 00:30:43,868 Speaker 3: The Compton, Crips tupac walks up to, him says hey 701 00:30:44,028 --> 00:30:49,228 Speaker 3: you and punches. Him all The Death row guys. Pounce later, 702 00:30:49,308 --> 00:30:53,068 Speaker 3: On Orlando anderson is they're driving around looking for a two. 703 00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:54,668 Speaker 3: Buck they go To Shook clubby's not there and they 704 00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:58,068 Speaker 3: See tupac leaning out of Sug knight's car kind of 705 00:30:58,108 --> 00:31:01,708 Speaker 3: hollering at women as they walk. By Orlando anderson is like, 706 00:31:01,748 --> 00:31:05,468 Speaker 3: that that's, him That's. Tupac AND i interviewed one Of 707 00:31:05,548 --> 00:31:07,708 Speaker 3: Orlando anderson's best friends and he said something that has 708 00:31:07,748 --> 00:31:11,428 Speaker 3: actually stuck with. Me he's, Like Orlando anderson could not 709 00:31:11,468 --> 00:31:14,348 Speaker 3: go back To compton and just be LIKE i got 710 00:31:14,388 --> 00:31:16,468 Speaker 3: my ass kick by a, Rapper LIKE i got my 711 00:31:16,468 --> 00:31:20,108 Speaker 3: ass by a, rapper like the embarrassment of. That couldn't do. 712 00:31:20,148 --> 00:31:23,028 Speaker 3: It SO i just think it's more straightforward than people. 713 00:31:23,028 --> 00:31:27,908 Speaker 3: Think that's. Incredible any, RESENT i, mean any. Resistance you're 714 00:31:27,948 --> 00:31:29,788 Speaker 3: starting to ask questions. About you, know. 715 00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:32,308 Speaker 6: It's not a football, game it's not a sport that 716 00:31:32,348 --> 00:31:34,948 Speaker 6: you're asking that's a murder that you're asking. About did 717 00:31:34,988 --> 00:31:36,828 Speaker 6: you ever get so far into This you're going. 718 00:31:36,748 --> 00:31:40,548 Speaker 3: Like oh, yeah, YEAH i mean it. WAS i found 719 00:31:40,548 --> 00:31:42,908 Speaker 3: the first police. OFFICER i interviewed the first police officer 720 00:31:42,948 --> 00:31:46,028 Speaker 3: who got to the. SCENE i interviewed the coroner, afterwards 721 00:31:46,388 --> 00:31:48,628 Speaker 3: LIKE i interviewed his family members who were in the 722 00:31:48,628 --> 00:31:51,148 Speaker 3: hospital with. Him and the closer you get to something 723 00:31:51,348 --> 00:31:54,188 Speaker 3: like people like the sexy myth, right especially with Young 724 00:31:54,308 --> 00:31:58,148 Speaker 3: Young Death Marilyn, Monroe Jam, steve and they love the. 725 00:31:58,188 --> 00:32:00,908 Speaker 3: Mythology but the closer you get and the people who know, 726 00:32:01,028 --> 00:32:03,588 Speaker 3: best they sort of break it down and they're actually 727 00:32:03,628 --> 00:32:05,788 Speaker 3: exhausted by it all because they've heard it over and 728 00:32:05,828 --> 00:32:07,828 Speaker 3: over and over. Again AND i just think the truth 729 00:32:07,828 --> 00:32:10,668 Speaker 3: of the matter is he punched the wrong. Guy he 730 00:32:10,788 --> 00:32:12,988 Speaker 3: was the wrong guy to do. It it was crazy 731 00:32:13,028 --> 00:32:15,388 Speaker 3: that Death row let him do. It he had all 732 00:32:15,508 --> 00:32:19,188 Speaker 3: these guys who are experienced gang, bangers experienced security let 733 00:32:19,268 --> 00:32:23,028 Speaker 3: him just walk up and punch this guy and it 734 00:32:23,188 --> 00:32:23,508 Speaker 3: ended his. 735 00:32:23,548 --> 00:32:27,268 Speaker 1: Life this is a, tiny tiny half of a percent 736 00:32:27,348 --> 00:32:29,988 Speaker 1: of what is in This it is page after page 737 00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:31,508 Speaker 1: of stuff like this that is completely. 738 00:32:31,628 --> 00:32:32,948 Speaker 3: Ribbon in the. 739 00:32:32,948 --> 00:32:35,068 Speaker 1: One subject that you definitely have not written on that 740 00:32:35,148 --> 00:32:38,068 Speaker 1: somebody needs To, jeff what is the book on The 741 00:32:38,108 --> 00:32:38,468 Speaker 1: New york? 742 00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:42,268 Speaker 3: Gestion what you're An East coast. Guy you're like A jets. 743 00:32:42,348 --> 00:32:44,188 Speaker 3: Dude where do you? Go what do? 744 00:32:44,268 --> 00:32:45,428 Speaker 1: You how many volumes is? 745 00:32:45,468 --> 00:32:46,428 Speaker 3: It you're an? 746 00:32:46,428 --> 00:32:48,228 Speaker 1: Author how would you even approach a project like? 747 00:32:48,228 --> 00:32:50,148 Speaker 3: That? FIRST i would take this mug and slam it 748 00:32:50,188 --> 00:32:53,988 Speaker 3: into my head as hard as. Possible, okay just the 749 00:32:54,028 --> 00:32:56,748 Speaker 3: futility and the STUDENT i honestly got this. Year Go 750 00:32:56,868 --> 00:32:58,588 Speaker 3: on is the. Word i've been A jeff fan my Whole, 751 00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:01,468 Speaker 3: yeah only TEAM i care. About i've been, through, obviously 752 00:33:01,508 --> 00:33:03,908 Speaker 3: the butt. Fumble i've been Through Aaron rodgers and The. 753 00:33:03,908 --> 00:33:06,188 Speaker 3: Achilles i've been through a. J dewey five, intercept three. 754 00:33:06,228 --> 00:33:10,308 Speaker 3: Interceptions i've been through not Drafting Warren sapp and Drafting Kyle. 755 00:33:10,348 --> 00:33:13,628 Speaker 3: Brady i've been through not Drafting, marino Drafting ken, O'Brien 756 00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:16,308 Speaker 3: on and on and. On this is the worst Year 757 00:33:16,308 --> 00:33:17,108 Speaker 3: i've ever seen in my. 758 00:33:17,148 --> 00:33:20,588 Speaker 1: Life, Wow i'm not. KIDDING i can't even. Fathom when 759 00:33:20,628 --> 00:33:21,788 Speaker 1: is it about? It can you put a fing around 760 00:33:21,788 --> 00:33:23,588 Speaker 1: with the record is? Bad, obviously but Anything. 761 00:33:23,468 --> 00:33:26,068 Speaker 3: Yeah there's no hope. Whatsoever and they're going to get 762 00:33:26,068 --> 00:33:27,628 Speaker 3: the first pick of the draft and there's not even 763 00:33:27,668 --> 00:33:30,628 Speaker 3: a marquee quarterback to day and make it even worse 764 00:33:30,868 --> 00:33:34,628 Speaker 3: in the same city and. Stadium, oh the other team 765 00:33:34,708 --> 00:33:37,388 Speaker 3: found a franchise. Quarterback it looks like has an exciting 766 00:33:37,428 --> 00:33:43,148 Speaker 3: young running back and. Roll oh and this is On. 767 00:33:43,148 --> 00:33:46,268 Speaker 3: Tupac this is when this is when The patriots are 768 00:33:46,268 --> 00:33:48,588 Speaker 3: supposed to be down and The jets were supposed to Be, 769 00:33:48,908 --> 00:33:50,868 Speaker 3: no we skip that one. Altogether that was a year 770 00:33:51,228 --> 00:33:54,348 Speaker 3: like it's just my, NUMBINGLY i don't know what happened 771 00:33:54,348 --> 00:33:55,028 Speaker 3: and start writing the. 772 00:33:55,028 --> 00:33:57,068 Speaker 1: Book it's got to be like six, body, wait all 773 00:33:57,068 --> 00:33:58,588 Speaker 1: the things you just said as the, BOOK i just want. 774 00:33:58,428 --> 00:34:00,668 Speaker 3: To say one. Thing i'm, Curious i'm I'M i THINK 775 00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:03,708 Speaker 3: i was five years. Old my brother was Seven, Mayopak New. 776 00:34:03,748 --> 00:34:06,108 Speaker 3: York my brother at the table, Says i'm going to 777 00:34:06,188 --> 00:34:08,028 Speaker 3: root for The, giants AND i, say, Okay i'm going 778 00:34:08,068 --> 00:34:10,028 Speaker 3: to root for The. Jets my brother would not recognize 779 00:34:10,028 --> 00:34:11,548 Speaker 3: That Eli manning if he came up to him and, 780 00:34:11,548 --> 00:34:14,388 Speaker 3: SAID i Am Eli. Manner and that is what has 781 00:34:14,388 --> 00:34:16,708 Speaker 3: caused me to be A jet. Fan my, Brother David, 782 00:34:16,708 --> 00:34:18,388 Speaker 3: pearlman has caused me to be A jet fan and 783 00:34:18,468 --> 00:34:21,588 Speaker 3: ruined my. Life Only god can judge The. Jets, yeah, 784 00:34:21,668 --> 00:34:22,828 Speaker 3: yeah he is judging The. 785 00:34:22,868 --> 00:34:27,828 Speaker 6: Jets Joe flacco once played for The, jets now going 786 00:34:27,908 --> 00:34:28,188 Speaker 6: to play. 787 00:34:28,188 --> 00:34:30,988 Speaker 3: Tonight let's go were you in both went To. Delaware, 788 00:34:31,028 --> 00:34:32,148 Speaker 3: Yeah i'm older than. Him you are. 789 00:34:32,188 --> 00:34:34,748 Speaker 1: Older jeffs a Blue HE i am A della blue. 790 00:34:34,748 --> 00:34:37,068 Speaker 6: Hen, Yeah so taking the field, tonight your thoughts On 791 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:38,468 Speaker 6: Joe flacco is still out there slinging. 792 00:34:38,468 --> 00:34:40,708 Speaker 3: It as you get, OLDER i, mean you guys might 793 00:34:40,748 --> 00:34:42,868 Speaker 3: appreciate this, too, Right you root for the guys who 794 00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,188 Speaker 3: last because you feel like they're at least kind of 795 00:34:45,228 --> 00:34:47,948 Speaker 3: sort of in a way in your age. Range, look 796 00:34:48,188 --> 00:34:50,508 Speaker 3: but people don't know about The university Of. Delaware we Had, 797 00:34:50,548 --> 00:34:53,028 Speaker 3: flacco we Have Rich, cannon we had Former Giants Scott, 798 00:34:53,108 --> 00:34:56,388 Speaker 3: runner we had Former Lion Jeff, kamla all starting quarterbacks 799 00:34:56,388 --> 00:34:58,788 Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl, Yeah delaware one of four schools to 800 00:34:58,788 --> 00:35:01,468 Speaker 3: have A us president and A Super bowl winning quarterback 801 00:35:02,188 --> 00:35:05,468 Speaker 3: and a head coach. Quarterback he went there. 802 00:35:05,468 --> 00:35:08,628 Speaker 1: Too it's a cool thing we're talking about. Today so 803 00:35:08,708 --> 00:35:11,708 Speaker 1: tonight On, amazon which is geared towards young, people the 804 00:35:11,748 --> 00:35:14,388 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks are both over. Forty It's flacco and It's. 805 00:35:14,468 --> 00:35:17,668 Speaker 3: Rogers does that make you smile OR i, Mean i'm 806 00:35:17,668 --> 00:35:20,188 Speaker 3: not a Huge rogers, guy but. Understood not everyone. Is, 807 00:35:20,268 --> 00:35:22,588 Speaker 3: YEAH i love. It, YEAH i just think it's, great 808 00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:24,508 Speaker 3: AND i think it's. CRAZY i think it's crazy That 809 00:35:24,548 --> 00:35:26,708 Speaker 3: Joe flacco's stow is starting quarterback in THE. Nfl but 810 00:35:27,228 --> 00:35:30,108 Speaker 3: as A Blue, hen, yes love it all. Right so 811 00:35:30,108 --> 00:35:30,948 Speaker 3: here's WHAT i know about. 812 00:35:30,948 --> 00:35:33,028 Speaker 1: You there's a passing comment That jeff will make about. 813 00:35:33,028 --> 00:35:33,988 Speaker 3: It i'm not a Huge rogers. 814 00:35:34,068 --> 00:35:37,068 Speaker 1: Guy that is such a loaded comment based on years 815 00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:39,668 Speaker 1: and years of books and relationships and, research that is 816 00:35:39,668 --> 00:35:41,628 Speaker 1: not just the. Throwaway so to that, point let's do 817 00:35:41,668 --> 00:35:44,748 Speaker 1: A jeff proman superlative greatest hits. Question all of the 818 00:35:44,748 --> 00:35:46,908 Speaker 1: books you've, written in all of these figures that we've 819 00:35:46,908 --> 00:35:49,788 Speaker 1: mentioned throughout this, interview who do you, think Including, tupac 820 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,628 Speaker 1: who do you think is the most interesting subject you've 821 00:35:52,668 --> 00:35:53,588 Speaker 1: ever researched and written. 822 00:35:53,628 --> 00:35:55,508 Speaker 3: About i'm not just saying this because the book's coming. 823 00:35:55,508 --> 00:35:58,148 Speaker 3: Out It's tuo Boc by tell us, why because there 824 00:35:58,188 --> 00:36:00,428 Speaker 3: was a, GUY i think where people don't understand About 825 00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:04,948 Speaker 3: tupac as he grew up an absolutely abject Poverty baltimore 826 00:36:05,028 --> 00:36:08,028 Speaker 3: row house, rats running up and down the base Sports Marin. 827 00:36:08,148 --> 00:36:11,348 Speaker 3: City his mom is addicted to, crack and he is 828 00:36:11,388 --> 00:36:14,948 Speaker 3: basically kicked out of the house and living with. Friends, poverty, poverty, trauma, 829 00:36:15,068 --> 00:36:19,268 Speaker 3: trauma trauma across the. Board had his first sexual experience 830 00:36:19,308 --> 00:36:21,948 Speaker 3: at fourteen years old with a, cousin his second and 831 00:36:22,068 --> 00:36:24,908 Speaker 3: fifteen with a friend of his. Mother like everything about 832 00:36:24,948 --> 00:36:27,868 Speaker 3: his life was traumatic and people look at him and 833 00:36:27,908 --> 00:36:30,388 Speaker 3: they see thug life and they SEE i get. Around 834 00:36:30,788 --> 00:36:34,988 Speaker 3: but what he overcame is unlike anything Anything i've ever 835 00:36:35,028 --> 00:36:37,228 Speaker 3: written about in my, life and you've written about it at. 836 00:36:37,228 --> 00:36:39,828 Speaker 3: All i've written about many. People let me follow. 837 00:36:39,868 --> 00:36:44,868 Speaker 1: That your books are loaded with, details, anecdotes. STORIES i 838 00:36:44,908 --> 00:36:46,788 Speaker 1: mean some of the things, NOW a lot of the 839 00:36:46,788 --> 00:36:49,068 Speaker 1: things in The cowboys documentary we first learned about in 840 00:36:49,108 --> 00:36:50,468 Speaker 1: your book about The cowboys years. 841 00:36:50,468 --> 00:36:53,508 Speaker 3: Ago i'm sure that's fun for. You what is? 842 00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:57,548 Speaker 1: Not i've got what is the single most interesting little 843 00:36:57,588 --> 00:37:00,228 Speaker 1: tidbit story or anecdote that you have ever are craziest 844 00:37:00,268 --> 00:37:01,868 Speaker 1: and take it anywhere you, Want, jeff you know What i'm. 845 00:37:01,708 --> 00:37:04,868 Speaker 3: Looking, for all, Right i'm going to Go ACTUALLY usfl And. 846 00:37:05,028 --> 00:37:07,508 Speaker 1: Jeff loves THE fsifl wrote a whole book About it's incredibly. 847 00:37:07,508 --> 00:37:10,148 Speaker 3: Thorough He Spring Football League. Nites, YES i just what 848 00:37:10,188 --> 00:37:11,588 Speaker 3: was the STORY i was thinking about. This you gave 849 00:37:11,588 --> 00:37:14,428 Speaker 3: me your heads up on this. One, yeah, okay they 850 00:37:14,428 --> 00:37:18,508 Speaker 3: had The San antonio Gun slingers or this dysfunctionnow. Franchise 851 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,548 Speaker 3: you need to look up their. Helmets they're Like woody 852 00:37:20,548 --> 00:37:23,588 Speaker 3: From Toy. Story. Yeah and they signed a defensive lineman 853 00:37:23,668 --> 00:37:26,188 Speaker 3: Named Greg. Fields And Greg fields was a kid out 854 00:37:26,188 --> 00:37:28,188 Speaker 3: Of grambling played with The colts for a brief period of, 855 00:37:28,228 --> 00:37:30,908 Speaker 3: time was about to be cut by The Atlanta. Falcons 856 00:37:30,948 --> 00:37:32,668 Speaker 3: would not leave the hotel. Room they had to bring 857 00:37:32,708 --> 00:37:34,588 Speaker 3: a police officer to get him to. Leave after he 858 00:37:34,628 --> 00:37:38,548 Speaker 3: was he refused. Leave he joins the Gun, slingers and 859 00:37:38,588 --> 00:37:40,748 Speaker 3: the owner of the Gun slinger stops paying. Players he 860 00:37:40,788 --> 00:37:43,268 Speaker 3: just stops Paying Greg, fields And greg told me a. 861 00:37:43,308 --> 00:37:48,028 Speaker 3: Story follows him home to his mansion In, texas pulls 862 00:37:48,028 --> 00:37:50,028 Speaker 3: a baseball bat and out of his trunk of his. 863 00:37:50,068 --> 00:37:53,628 Speaker 3: Car Clinton mangus sees in the owner and, Says, greg 864 00:37:53,628 --> 00:37:56,428 Speaker 3: what are you doing? Here he's, Like i'm here to get. 865 00:37:56,428 --> 00:37:59,908 Speaker 3: Paid mangas, says wait here one, second goes into the, 866 00:37:59,908 --> 00:38:03,388 Speaker 3: house comes back out with a paper bag stuff WITH 867 00:38:03,468 --> 00:38:06,788 Speaker 3: i think it was eighty thousand, dollars and he, says 868 00:38:06,868 --> 00:38:09,908 Speaker 3: are we? Good And fields, goes we're, good and your guys, 869 00:38:09,948 --> 00:38:12,628 Speaker 3: Off she'll come at baseball back. Point it was a 870 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:14,548 Speaker 3: Very tupac moment For greg. Few you know what it 871 00:38:14,628 --> 00:38:15,668 Speaker 3: all seems to come, back. 872 00:38:15,708 --> 00:38:19,268 Speaker 1: Guys Only god can judge, Me jeff tell them quickly 873 00:38:19,308 --> 00:38:20,828 Speaker 1: to where they can get it and how and all 874 00:38:20,868 --> 00:38:21,148 Speaker 1: that great. 875 00:38:21,188 --> 00:38:24,788 Speaker 3: Stuff oh online everywhere and it comes out officially twenty First. 876 00:38:25,108 --> 00:38:27,708 Speaker 1: October twenty first is five. Days get this. Book you 877 00:38:27,748 --> 00:38:30,268 Speaker 1: will absolutely love. IT i think the absolute best in the. 878 00:38:30,268 --> 00:38:31,988 Speaker 1: Game jeff, promin Only god can judge. 879 00:38:31,988 --> 00:38:32,748 Speaker 3: Me go get, it, guys