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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: February first, Happy February, everybody. It's a beautiful month. It

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Speaker 1: is the month we transition more to the NBA, a

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Speaker 1: little more to college basketball. And if that makes your

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Speaker 1: ears bleed because you don't like basketball, well that's your problem.

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Speaker 1: I love basketball. March madness my favorite sporting event of

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Speaker 1: the year, unless, folks, it is a World Cup year.

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Speaker 1: This happens to be a World Cup year. Yes, that's true.

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Speaker 1: The World Cup, of course is in I think Dubai. Jeez.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry. The World Cup of course is

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Speaker 1: in Qatar a k A cutter, and it's happening in

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Speaker 1: desert in summer. So the World Coup will take place

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Speaker 1: in I believe November and December, right around the time

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Speaker 1: of Ohio State Michigan and the end of the regular

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Speaker 1: season in the NFL, or I should say the ladder

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Speaker 1: ladder portion of the regular season. So if you think

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Speaker 1: the holidays and football college in the NFL is madness normally,

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Speaker 1: gonna be incredible, but plenty to get to before March Madness,

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Speaker 1: before the World Cup. Obviously. The big story on Monday

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Speaker 1: in sports was Tom Brady taking to his podcast, which

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Speaker 1: he does with Jim Gray. Jim Gray, that's stunning to me.

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Speaker 1: How did I not know that I'm reading all these

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Speaker 1: stories out? Tom Brady on his podcast with Jim Gray

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Speaker 1: said that he's not officially retired yet. Tom Brady, I'm

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Speaker 1: still going through the process, I said I was going through.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes some time to evaluate how you feel

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Speaker 1: time is right, I'll be ready to make a decision

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Speaker 1: one way or the other, just like I said last week.

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Speaker 1: So a k a. Tommy Brady is probably gonna drag

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Speaker 1: this out now. He's not gonna pull a Brett far Right.

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Speaker 1: By all accounts, he needs to make a decision after

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Speaker 1: February four, when he is expected to collect fifteen of

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Speaker 1: his twenty million dollars salary, and a couple of people

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Speaker 1: you know when the salary thing came out, that Brady

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Speaker 1: is all about the Benjamin's. Well, who isn't all about

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Speaker 1: the Benjamin's. Yes, Tom Brady did take less money in

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Speaker 1: salary with the Patriots for a while to enable that

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Speaker 1: dynasty to continue. Um. Yes, his wife's worth five million

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Speaker 1: all about the Benjamin's. That's why he's not retired now.

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Speaker 1: He's retiring next week. But you don't just give away

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Speaker 1: fifteen mill if you don't have to do you. Nobody's

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Speaker 1: it away fifteen million for free. It just absolutely bonkers

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Speaker 1: that people took that the wrong way. But that's social media,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what people do. So anyways, Brady continued

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Speaker 1: um that he understands the media environment and uh, people

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Speaker 1: want to get in front of stories. But his decision

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Speaker 1: to return fire is still day to day. I'll take

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Speaker 1: people's lives. When that decision comes, it'll come probably not

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Speaker 1: what you want to hear. If you're the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: do they have to go back away? From being Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Now they're just Tampa Bay, a team that doesn't have

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Speaker 1: not gonna be remotely close to the team you were

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Speaker 1: You never and I've talked about this for a long time,

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Speaker 1: The expectations are gonna be massive and you're never going

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Speaker 1: just impossible. Following John Elway, good luck with that. Following

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Speaker 1: But following the guy, even following Donovan McNabb and Philly

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Speaker 1: diving into Brian Dable much in the Giants, but at

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Speaker 1: and Belichick offered to hire him for fifteen thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: there's so much wrong with this. That's exploitation of workers.

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Speaker 1: not a billion dollar organization in two thousands. Um, that's

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Speaker 1: This is about Brian Dable. You guys know how markets work.

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Speaker 1: there's a finite number of jobs. They're just they're not

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Hebrafluce was one of them. But the Belichick tree,

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Speaker 1: Rob is a lot of rotten apples on that bad boy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is lost in the sauce of

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Speaker 1: this whole Josh McDaniels hiring is that HiT's a package

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Speaker 1: deal with the general manager who was also from New England.

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Speaker 1: So you can't tell me that Josh McDaniels is not

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Speaker 1: going to have at least some input on the personnel,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly what you don't want, given the history

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Speaker 1: of Belichick coaching from guys number one and number two,

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Speaker 1: what you just went through with John Gruden. Like Mike Mayock,

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Speaker 1: they said when it was debating which players to sign

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Speaker 1: or draft, it was nine, which meant John Gruden always

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Speaker 1: had the final say, and the only time he didn't

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Speaker 1: have the final day was when they got late in

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Speaker 1: the draft and he had no idea who these guys were.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Mike, I'll let you, you know, pick whoever

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Speaker 1: you think might make most sense, which is exactly why

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Speaker 1: all of their best picks were late round picks, because

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Speaker 1: John John Gruden was terrible at evaluating the first, second,

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Speaker 1: and third round guys. So I don't understand what the

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Speaker 1: Raiders were thinking. I think it's a terrible higher. He'd

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Speaker 1: have to win a super Bowl to win me over.

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Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, I mean, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: super Bowl? You're going over fifteen years was at a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Aren't you happy he was a playoff trips? No,

447
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Speaker 1: because look, how when was the last Raiders playoff win

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Speaker 1: r U two thousand and one. I think that long.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm like, no, come on, something like that,

450
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Speaker 1: and you're demanding a Super Bowl because look, I have

451
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Speaker 1: staked my claim on this podcast, in public, on the streets,

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Speaker 1: in Twitter. You know that I hate Tom Brady. You

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Speaker 1: know I don't. I don't like him. You know, as

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Speaker 1: a Raiders fan, I'm not allowed to like him. And

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Speaker 1: I'm boasted by the fact that for all of his

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Speaker 1: championships and all his accolades, and a lot of them

457
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Speaker 1: he deserved, she's still a great player. Even if I

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Speaker 1: don't like him. He still has two of the biggest

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Speaker 1: cheating scandals in NFL history on his resume. So what

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Speaker 1: kind of hypocrite would I be if I say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna dismiss Josh McDaniels having two as well

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Speaker 1: in New England, in addition to the third one that

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Speaker 1: he had in Denver, provided that we get to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs every year. Okay, let me drill down on this,

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Speaker 1: because you're just throwing around cheater at everybody. So let

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Speaker 1: me just let me get it. So Tom Brady cheater,

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, cheater, Bill Belichick cheating. Yes, it feels a

468
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Speaker 1: little excessive. Well, it's not like that at all. Cheating.

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Speaker 1: Look I look at it this way. The Bellotchick and

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Speaker 1: Brady specifically. I can't sayeth about Josh McDaniels because I

471
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Speaker 1: think the jury's out of him until he does anything

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Speaker 1: away from New England. It's hard to say whether or

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Speaker 1: not he's a good coach. Okay, because in in Denver

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Speaker 1: he was sub five, so he doesn't get the band

475
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Speaker 1: for the hell right now, Belichick and Brady to me

476
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Speaker 1: are very similar two Barry Bonds and Roger Clement's Belichick

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Speaker 1: and who Brady. Okay, they didn't need to cheat to

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Speaker 1: be successful. I don't think I think eventually Belichick would

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Speaker 1: have broken through. I think eventually Brady would have broken

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Speaker 1: through because they had the right formula. Brady was maniacal

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Speaker 1: and his preparation. Belichick's defenses were always top five of

482
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Speaker 1: top ten whatever. Eventually they would have got one, maybe two,

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Speaker 1: maybe three where they gained the system and had their allegations,

484
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Speaker 1: the spy gate, the deflate gate, what have you. And

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Speaker 1: then there was another one where they were caught filming

486
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Speaker 1: Bengal sidelines. I don't know if you remember that one

487
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Speaker 1: a couple of years back and filming Marvin Lewis on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. Yeah, and so I think that they found

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Speaker 1: an edge and they got it and they got more

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Speaker 1: championships out of it. Okay, time out, Hold on, let

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Speaker 1: me stop you there. So they were busted. I think

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Speaker 1: it was right. Are we talking to flake gate or

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Speaker 1: spy gate or with both of them, whatever you want,

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Speaker 1: even after they've been busted for two I think they

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Speaker 1: went back to the Super Bowl post both of those

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles and lost. And then I think they

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Speaker 1: went back to the Super Bowl post both of those

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Speaker 1: against the Rams and one, so like they won before cheating.

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Speaker 1: We would argue, right, two thousand and one and whatever.

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Speaker 1: And then you who ask former raps from the Greatest

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Speaker 1: Show on Tour if they believe that they were cheating

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Speaker 1: during that first Super Bowl, Like plenty of guys have

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Speaker 1: gone on record, Tory Hold, Isaac Bruce because they got

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Speaker 1: shut down. Yeah, because it wasn't just that they got

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Speaker 1: shut down. Is how they got shut down where it's like,

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Speaker 1: this is interesting that you know exactly what we're things

507
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Speaker 1: we haven't even done all season and you know what's coming.

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Speaker 1: I would I would definitely watch the documentary on that.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I started watching the F one documentary

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Speaker 1: on Netflix because a buddy of mine um has an

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Speaker 1: idea for a similar one with a different twist, not

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Speaker 1: F one obviously um um and and I maybe tangentially involved.

513
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Speaker 1: Like the usage of tangentially. I think I said it correctly. UM.

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Speaker 1: So I've got to brush up on my F one.

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Speaker 1: And these cool documents, they're awesome. I mean, I'm not

516
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Speaker 1: like super into the car racing, but the idea and

517
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Speaker 1: building these things. You guys know, I like to build things.

518
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Speaker 1: I kind of built a website and sold it. I

519
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm I'm not building something at Fox, but

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Speaker 1: we are on the ground floor um of gambling. We

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Speaker 1: have been UM for basically since I got there. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like we're just, you know, basically putting

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Speaker 1: bricks in a skyscraper right now. When we're building something,

524
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Speaker 1: it feels cool to be on the ground floor building.

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Speaker 1: So I'm into that. I do kind of find it

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that the rams in And again, this

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Speaker 1: is what two thousand one or two. I forget the

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Speaker 1: one two thousand one and that's when Brady like was

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Speaker 1: a late ad filling in for blood so when he

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Speaker 1: got hurt, right, yes, so, and they I need to

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Speaker 1: look had they made the Super Bowl a few years

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Speaker 1: before that, Oh parcels okay. Interesting, So under your impression

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Speaker 1: they've been cheating all along, No, I think that they've

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Speaker 1: cheated a handful of time. I think there's if you've

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Speaker 1: done it once, you know, you say it's an active,

536
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Speaker 1: you've done it twice, I think it's a pattern. So

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Speaker 1: I think you've done it more than the two times

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Speaker 1: that we know about a Again, like to go back

539
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: to my comparison with the Bonds and Clements. Those guys

540
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: were great as it is. They didn't need the performance

541
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: enhancing drugs to become what they already that they would

542
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Speaker 1: have had all the fame careers without it. I think

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Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick would have won at least one, probably

544
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Speaker 1: you know, more than two without these situations around their neck,

545
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: and they won five together. They were some six Brady

546
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Speaker 1: has seven. Brady has seven, large forget like most guys

547
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Speaker 1: have one or two, maybe three. I think Martana has four.

548
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Brady's got seven. Um. Interesting, So you're of the belief

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Speaker 1: that I don't want Josh McDaniels because he's a cheater.

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Speaker 1: If they start out three, you know, will you have

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Speaker 1: will you forget all of it and just be like,

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Speaker 1: let's go No, I was maybe I'm gonna root for

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Speaker 1: my tu I still don't like him, Like that's not

554
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Speaker 1: gonna change. Like There's been plenty of guys teams that

555
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: I root for where I liked the team, I don't

556
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Speaker 1: like the coach, Like I didn't like Luke Walton with

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. You know I didn't. I wasn't a fan

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Speaker 1: of Mike D'Antoni with the Lakers. But if the team's winning,

559
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna root for my twin that that. I'm

560
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: assuming those were personal because I don't think either of

561
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: those guys were any in any I just didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think. I thought Luke walm was in over his head,

563
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: and I thought Mike D'Antoni came in with a big stick,

564
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: trying to do things his way when his way had

565
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: not won championships. Poor Mike D'Antoni. They had the Warriors

566
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: on the ropes in Game seven. Yep, almost got almost

567
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: got there. Mike Luke Walton, I is he out of

568
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: the league. You might see by your neighborhood he might

569
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: go jogging. No, I don't think. I don't think he

570
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Speaker 1: lives out here anymore. I mean, dude, did you see

571
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: what happened to Luke Walton and Sacramento Like that was ugly?

572
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Yah huh um. All right, so overall you're not thrilled

573
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels, but you will ride with Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a choice. I'm not going to be

575
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Speaker 1: one of those guys who jumps off the batway. Listen,

576
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Speaker 1: I was. I liked the Adam Gaze higher and don't

577
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: bash me for it, folks, because guess what. Peyton Manning

578
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: was one riding that bus. He was totally driving everything said, Oh,

579
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: come on out of Gaze. I threw fifty five touchdowns

580
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: with the God. You gotta love him. Meanwhile, we find

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Speaker 1: out Adam Gaze didn't do ship and nobody likes him.

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00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: It's not people person, you know. It was a totally

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Speaker 1: So they switch it and they go, we're gonna go

584
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: opposite uh, someone who's not a people person. We're gonna

585
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: get the ultimate people person, Robert Salah. He loves They

586
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: love him on the sideline. They loved him in San

587
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: France and like, does this guy know about xs and ohs?

588
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: And I mean, like I'm rooting for him. You know,

589
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: he's a mixed race guy. I'm a mixed race guy.

590
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: We've talked about that in the past. If you're just

591
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: listening for the first time, guys, catch up. Um. But yeah,

592
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for But I do. I think he's going

593
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Speaker 1: to be successful. I don't have a ton of confidence,

594
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: but it's early. I'm optimistic. We'll put it that way.

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Speaker 1: you about this now. We did not sometimes drop and

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Speaker 1: I will talk about topics. Um. Often we'll talk about topics. UM.

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Speaker 1: And I didn't bring this one up before, so this

602
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Speaker 1: might catch you off guard. But briefly, I wanted to

603
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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on this. Some guy, some JABRONI out there.

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00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: It took a shot at Odell Beckham and I you

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00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: guys know my thoughts Odell. I've wanted him out. I

606
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: told the giants to trade him a million times when

607
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: I had the radio show. Giants fans hated me. I

608
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: was proving right. Um, it felt like a train wreck

609
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Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Him overall has felt like a disaster. I've

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00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: been pretty much spot on with O'Dell. He's working great

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Speaker 1: with the Rams. Some guy in Cleveland looks like he's

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Speaker 1: like some sort of radio host three the Fan if

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Speaker 1: anybody is familiar with that. Um. He went after Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham on social media and said, Hey, I will all

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Speaker 1: these people saying Odell has been great, that's stupid. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be rooting against him because of the way he

617
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: got out of Cleveland, Like what a bad human being.

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Speaker 1: And this is his exact tweet. What oh b J

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Speaker 1: did to orchestrate his way out of Cleveland. Cleveland is

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Speaker 1: a horrible precedent. The media will fawn over him the

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Speaker 1: next two weeks, but I will nothing to feel good

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00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: about what he did, which they will ignore. Don't get

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Speaker 1: how former Brown's teammates can be happy for a dude

624
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: who quit on them. Now, listen in real life a

625
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: k a. Before social media fifteen years ago. Whoever, this

626
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: guy is Darryl Ruader Ruader something, I don't know whatever.

627
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Speaker 1: Nobody cares about this guy. He sets stuff that's yelling

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Speaker 1: into the into the airwaves in Cleveland. Nobody cares. Maybe

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Speaker 1: eight people people might care. I normally wouldn't. I don't

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Speaker 1: put stock in what these random say. But this idea

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Speaker 1: that Odell was it was a horrible precedent to orchestrate

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Speaker 1: his way out of Cleveland. Rob, I would need to

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Speaker 1: go back and listen. But if memory serves, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: working for him, whether it was him and Baker, whether

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Speaker 1: it was his dad and Baker. Um, the exit was ugly.

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Speaker 1: But how many times have we said in life, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you are in a bad place in your job,

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00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: get the hell out, do what you gotta do to

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Speaker 1: get out of there. Set something up somewhere else, move on.

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Speaker 1: There's no point in continuing to be unhappy in a

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00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: crap situation, right, And like, I'm a fan of doing that.

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00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: If you're unhappy, leave move on. Odell unhappy, saw the

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: team spinning its wheels. I know they were good last year.

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: He was hurt. It's fine, But like Rob, like did

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Speaker 1: O'Dell technically quit on the Browns And feel free to

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Speaker 1: yell at me and say, Jay, you've forgotten he quit

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00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: on the Browns? But I don't know, man, I it

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00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: wasn't working. Is that fair to say? Or is that unfair? No?

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Speaker 1: I agree, it just it wasn't working. It was one

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Speaker 1: of those situations where right from the beginning he was

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Speaker 1: not a fit for what they wanted to do. In

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00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: the beginning, Odell Beckham Jr. Was very full of himself.

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Speaker 1: I think it is fair to say, you know, he

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Speaker 1: had the wearing a watch, a quarter million dollar watch

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Speaker 1: on the field during a game. You know, he he

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Speaker 1: got a I think he was free the flagged or

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Speaker 1: fined for having the wrong cleats during games, you know,

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00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: having the wrong visor like that, like the NFL dumb

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Speaker 1: rule that they have, but he was breaking them because

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Speaker 1: he wanted to be an individual. I don't think Cleveland

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Speaker 1: was the right spot for him with the culture that

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Speaker 1: they have around there, not just on the team, but

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Speaker 1: in the city. Very blue collar, you know, grinder kind

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Speaker 1: of people, and Odell's not that kind of guy. And

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Speaker 1: this guy Darryl Writer, you know from the fan and

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Speaker 1: ninety two point three. I think that he's letting an

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Speaker 1: allegiency to the Browns kind of cloud as judgment a

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: bit um because if you remember what happened and how

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Speaker 1: he laughed with his dad in that Instagram video and

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00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: everything like that, Odell didn't say anything during that whole time.

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Speaker 1: You know, he he was quiet he was playing the

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: good soldier. But from what everybody said, head coach on down,

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Speaker 1: he was going about his business and let your dad

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Speaker 1: do the dirty. Yeah, but it's it's not his fault

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00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: that your team chose the quarterback who, by all accounts

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00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: is a mediocre quarterback over what we now see again

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Speaker 1: is a star wide receiver O'Dell in Cleveland as a fit.

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Speaker 1: You think, oh, he's gonna be a great number one,

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00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: but it he wasn't a number one. He's not a

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Speaker 1: number one. I know. I'm sure he would refute that,

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00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: and Nike would hate to hear it. But he's not

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Speaker 1: a number one. And the other thing is in l

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Speaker 1: A rob You know this is a Laker fan. Uh

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Speaker 1: is a U c. L A guy um Odell in Cleveland,

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00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: biggest deal in the city by a mile. Right, Lebron

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00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: was gone, um Kyrie Irving forced his way out, like

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Speaker 1: Odell was the jam in Cleveland. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Indians or the Cleveland whatever their new name is.

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Speaker 1: What are they the Cleveland Wayfinders or something I don't

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00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: know is the Guardians. It could be so at any rate,

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Speaker 1: you know, to wrap this up, it's like Clifland Odell

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Speaker 1: comes to l A and dude, he's not even a

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Speaker 1: top ten kind of guy in the city in terms

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Speaker 1: of sports. Like l A is enormous. There's so much

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Speaker 1: going on here that O'Dell just kind of blends into

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Speaker 1: the background and lo and behold, he's fitting perfect. He's

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Speaker 1: now coming off a big game and going to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and like, I know, I've had beef with

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Speaker 1: him and he blocked me on social media and like

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Speaker 1: every Twitter Instagram, I'm happy for the guy. Can can

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Speaker 1: I say that? Rob? I hope I don't come off

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Speaker 1: as a as a goof. I'll wrap with this Rob,

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Speaker 1: and I'll float it to the listeners. I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: p one guy is late in the pod will get this.

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Speaker 1: Is this the kind of pod where we should then

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Speaker 1: reach out to Darryl Reuter of the radio station in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland and try to get him on to discuss this,

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Speaker 1: or do we not do that because who is Darryl Reuterer? Um?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna open this up to Rob and

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Speaker 1: the audience. If we get like, hey, j bring him on.

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Speaker 1: This guy sounds interesting, great, Well, I'll try anything. Um.

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Speaker 1: We do have a couple other really big guests in

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Speaker 1: the pipeline. But anyway, Rob, your final thoughts on this guy,

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00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: do we? Is this the kind of guests we want

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Speaker 1: to have on? Like, as somebody who has produced network

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Speaker 1: level sports talk for over a decade, including your show

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00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: on Saturdays, my first thought is absolutely, let's get him on.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be followers, It's gonna be great, right, that's

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Speaker 1: my first thought. My second thought though, is I remember

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Speaker 1: the very Trammel incident from your Saturday show in Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City when he went in on Kevin Durant and you decide, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we gotta get him on to talk about this, let's

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Speaker 1: debate it, and rather than us get fireworks, Barry tram

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Speaker 1: Will hung up in the middle of the interview. And

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Speaker 1: when those kind of things happen, it's funny at the moment,

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Speaker 1: but it's not good for our purposes, for entertainment purposes,

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Speaker 1: for ratings purposes. And we're in a ratings business. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about Darryl Writer to to tell

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Speaker 1: us whether or not he's gonna be down with mixing

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Speaker 1: up with good memory. All right, Um, that's enough for it. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: what a rob pulling stuff out? Like four years ago

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Speaker 1: when he was produced by radio show and and and

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Speaker 1: need defending Kevin Durant to the adds of the earth. Alright, guys,

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Speaker 1: have a great, splendid Tuesday. Um, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow