Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, Nice to meet me. I feel
Speaker 1: like I know you?
Speaker 2: How many times have I been on your TV show?
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking this morning. This is so crazy.
Speaker 1: I was walking This is the honest truth. I was
Speaker 1: walking downstairs and I'm like, why do I feel like
Speaker 1: I know her? I feel like we've been together? And
Speaker 1: then I said to myself, I had this thought. I said,
Speaker 1: was she on my talk show? And then like, now
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that today I had this like
Speaker 1: foreshadowing about this happening. You are on the show. What
Speaker 1: do we do for three times?
Speaker 2: I literally my book mob Whie and Me and Big.
Speaker 1: That's why it's okay. This is funny too, because they
Speaker 1: printed out papers for you today and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot more in my head I knew. I
Speaker 1: was like, she created the show. And I said to myself,
Speaker 1: why do I know that? I'm like, she's different than
Speaker 1: the others. Not to be no, I am, you know, disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I was like, because she created the show. But I
Speaker 1: said to myself, why do I know that? And it's
Speaker 1: really weird my memory lately, and that please, no disrespect
Speaker 1: because I would never lie and pretend that, like I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember everything, but I don't like remember remember does
Speaker 1: that make any sense?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's cold, we're getting a little bit more mature.
Speaker 1: Well no, yes, and the pots this thing that i've
Speaker 1: had is autoimmune. Like they say that there's like this
Speaker 1: like since the vaccine in the pandemic, there's a memory thing.
Speaker 1: But like, I literally knew all these things about you.
Speaker 1: And I said, why do I know that? I thought
Speaker 1: I saw it on another show. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: I thought I heard it, but I don't watch.
Speaker 2: Him any Yeah, my sister Jennifer created the show.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought you created the show.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the star and it's no disrespect, but I
Speaker 2: really don't care about the other women anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, but we had this conversation. But you're
Speaker 1: saying it was on my talk show.
Speaker 2: We I was on. Yeah, I have pictures of us.
Speaker 2: It's actually on my Instagram of me and you holding
Speaker 2: my book playing with fire, and then I was on
Speaker 2: with Alicia and Natalie, and then me and Benny Guarino
Speaker 2: made meat balls for my cookbook as well.
Speaker 1: You have a you have a ridiculous memory. Because I
Speaker 1: was going through the worst divorce and that was like
Speaker 1: all a blur and I've had this, you know, not
Speaker 1: the first time this has happened. I literally don't remember
Speaker 1: a lot. So anyway, anyway, I know you, but like
Speaker 1: I've never seen you socially outside of the show. Have
Speaker 1: I ever seen you at a party? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like I know you.
Speaker 2: We've been at like maybe one or two, like okay,
Speaker 2: magazine parties like that, but it's always quick.
Speaker 1: Stuff, you know, okay, because I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: know why I feel like I know you. It's exactly
Speaker 1: And I wore something that I thought would be mob
Speaker 1: wives appropriate. But yes, you are least well the least
Speaker 1: of you is mob wise and we've talked about that
Speaker 1: before and and as you just mentioned, but I know
Speaker 1: about that, and we talked about the show and we
Speaker 1: could get into that. And but I called you because
Speaker 1: of your story and work you're doing and being vocal
Speaker 1: about something that many people aren't vocal about and that
Speaker 1: people have shame about. And I was reading through the
Speaker 1: papers on you, and I was thinking of Steve Madden
Speaker 1: telling me the addiction is your life, like read my
Speaker 1: sobriety is my life, he said, like it's before my
Speaker 1: kids it's before my job, it's before my money, before
Speaker 1: my company. Like that's a big statement. Nobody will ever
Speaker 1: admit that something comes before their kids, you know. And
Speaker 1: Steve Madden said that his sobriety comes before his kids.
Speaker 1: And so when I just read a headline because I
Speaker 1: didn't know this, I just like stopped my tracks. Like
Speaker 1: what she was She almost died. She was dead of
Speaker 1: a fen and all overdose. Like that's a massively like jarring,
Speaker 1: shocking headline to read.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, your recovery has to come
Speaker 2: before everything. It's God. And then so yeah, it actually
Speaker 2: and it isn't very embarrassing.
Speaker 1: For me to tell it is or it's not.
Speaker 2: No, I how could somebody not be embarrassed of the
Speaker 2: fact that they got a bag of fentanyl which was
Speaker 2: supposed to be cocaine. And I'm very honest about it.
Speaker 2: And then I have the text messages between the person
Speaker 2: that was sent there and he said it in the message,
Speaker 2: oh my god, because.
Speaker 1: It wait, what does that mean? Well go back to that,
Speaker 1: because I know someone this happened to their kids. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you a story after But what are you
Speaker 1: saying now?
Speaker 2: So, when I was in Florida. I had text a
Speaker 2: girlfriend of mine. I said, hey, handle this for me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I vouch for the kid. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: The kids, you're saying. You said to her, get the stuff,
Speaker 1: and she said, I know the guy. It's a good
Speaker 1: and which is so it doesn't matter because the guy
Speaker 1: has a guy as a guy, right.
Speaker 2: Right, But it normally does matter. So and okay, because
Speaker 2: nobody usually makes a mistake like that.
Speaker 1: So with that, But they're not in the CA kitchen.
Speaker 1: How would they know is something coming from.
Speaker 2: That's what they do?
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, they're living.
Speaker 2: But okay, is this I didn't speak to anybody for
Speaker 2: so it happened when I was in a restaurant, and
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have recollection of three days. But
Speaker 2: somebody was with me, so I know what happened. They
Speaker 2: brought like in a bathroom. You're saying, I guess so
Speaker 2: because I wasn't at the table for that second. I
Speaker 2: came back to the table, I made a phone call,
Speaker 2: told my friend to send her friends. She sent her friends.
Speaker 2: When I had odeed in the restaurant. He had text
Speaker 2: her and I have the messages because she sent them
Speaker 2: to me. Afterwards. So that's how I know what happened.
Speaker 2: I gave her a bag of blank by accident. I
Speaker 2: have the whole conversation.
Speaker 1: Holy motherfuck, because I died right there in front.
Speaker 2: Of them in the restaurant.
Speaker 1: Holy fuck.
Speaker 2: Table and my girlfriend, who was a course from me.
Speaker 1: Like, there's a bag of that that they mix into
Speaker 1: other shit that they accidentally gave you. What the fuck?
Speaker 1: But a whole bag would be you'd be dead instantly.
Speaker 2: What I don't understand I was, I'm.
Speaker 1: Touching it or doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming I did it. Okay, okay, because I can't
Speaker 2: tell you that nobody was in the bathroom with me,
Speaker 2: but I know addiction and I know me. So with
Speaker 2: that being said, I walked back.
Speaker 1: You had it, you went to go do it. The
Speaker 1: fact that my brain I can't remember you and you
Speaker 1: are remembering all of it is crazy. But okay, wow, okay.
Speaker 2: Table, and I keeled over and died.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was it.
Speaker 2: And the girl in the restaurant broke four ribs and
Speaker 2: fractured my sternum in two places, reviving me.
Speaker 1: And and did they have narakan in the restaurant?
Speaker 2: No, she did it with her hands.
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 2: I'm in ems gets there. They hit me with the
Speaker 2: with the shot. The conversation with the kid is, oh
Speaker 2: my god, Gina, I sent this. I gave this to
Speaker 2: her by accident. The cops are here, So the cops
Speaker 2: were there. Every the kid gotten whatever trouble, not by me.
Speaker 2: I would not rest charges at all. I prefer to
Speaker 2: have his hands broken. But that's me and my mob
Speaker 2: wife's thinking. But that. They took me to the hospital,
Speaker 2: and when I was intribated, I went into cardiac arrest.
Speaker 2: So I was already intribated and went into cardiac arrest.
Speaker 2: What mean, you're in a like a coma? So they
Speaker 2: put a coma so they I don't actually know why
Speaker 2: they do that. I'm assuming the OD was so severe.
Speaker 2: I wasn't there, like I wasn't here, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh, meaning it's it's an induced they put you there.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so you're intubated. And while I was interurbated,
Speaker 2: I went into cardiac arrest on top of it, which
Speaker 2: normally doesn't happen. From that, I got pneumonia. And I
Speaker 2: had gotten that vaccine two years ago, and I've had
Speaker 2: pneumonia twice since then. And then they had to like
Speaker 2: give me a walker and like I had to go
Speaker 2: up and down.
Speaker 1: And how long ago was this?
Speaker 2: September eighteenth, six months ago?
Speaker 1: Holy shit, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm amazing. I wasn't supposed to make it. They told
Speaker 2: my family, she's not going to make it through the night.
Speaker 2: And three days later I woke up and I was like,
Speaker 2: get me out of here, and they were like, do
Speaker 2: you know what happened? And I'm like, absolutely not what happened?
Speaker 2: And they broke it down to me and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: that's impossible. I don't do those drugs. And the doctor
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, you did. And I go but
Speaker 2: I don't said no one said you did. But it
Speaker 2: was mixed.
Speaker 1: And now I have a I know someone whose son,
Speaker 1: a person, their son had a baby and the wife
Speaker 1: babies a couple months old and for whatever, maybe six
Speaker 1: months old, I think it was six months old, and
Speaker 1: the two of them, my husband and wife, were home
Speaker 1: with the baby and they guess they just wanted to
Speaker 1: have a little fun and they ordered coke to to
Speaker 1: the to the house and they both dropped out and
Speaker 1: the baby was alone crying for like twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: The father they died.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think parents. Yeah, okay, so they oh deed
Speaker 2: with death? Yeah wow.
Speaker 1: And I and I've had experience with this also with people,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing that smart together people like you have
Speaker 1: a different perspective on life. Like I don't have that
Speaker 1: as much as you. But I had a severe anaphylactic
Speaker 1: shock situation that I was unconscious and I was in
Speaker 1: the icee I see you for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: and it was brutal and like I could in the
Speaker 1: background when I was coming to hear the doctors freaking
Speaker 1: out about sixty over forty blood pressure and like, why
Speaker 1: were there all these people? And frankly, I thought it
Speaker 1: was because, like I don't know, I thought it was
Speaker 1: because it was me, Like a lot of people were
Speaker 1: like they got a couple of extra attention. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was because I was dying in the hospital. So, like,
Speaker 1: I know what that is, like not as much as
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, but that's a that changes your
Speaker 1: perspective on life. It changes you as a person, Like
Speaker 1: it's it it escalates the I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: but not an angry way.
Speaker 2: So let me say that I bo died before this
Speaker 2: isn't my first time. When my father died in nineteen
Speaker 2: I I didn't, I couldn't. I didn't want to live.
Speaker 2: I felt like my twin died. I felt this connection
Speaker 2: with my father, way different than my sisters. He was
Speaker 2: like my twin. We look alike, we act alike, we're
Speaker 2: giving a like. We want to do everything for everybody
Speaker 2: else some and we forget about ourselves. My father was
Speaker 2: a great man. I don't care what anybody has to say.
Speaker 2: He was a great man. He rescued a family out
Speaker 2: of a burning building, He saved a girl drowning. In
Speaker 2: prospect part, my father was really a good man. He
Speaker 2: paid for my best friend's mother's funeral because she had
Speaker 2: no money. So in spite of what he did for
Speaker 2: a living, he was a good man. Which I'm very
Speaker 2: much like my dad.
Speaker 1: But you're saying two things can be true at the
Speaker 1: same time. Absolutely, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I mean, look at Steve Madden. Yeah, pay with
Speaker 2: my father. He's a good man, right, he got sober,
Speaker 2: you know, and he's a strong individual. So yeah, you
Speaker 2: could be a bad guy and a good guy at
Speaker 2: the same time. People make mistakes. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: know who you are you start out at life, You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It takes years to get where
Speaker 2: you're going, And for me, it took a lot more
Speaker 2: than the average person because I had low self esteem
Speaker 2: from a child. So I was born very ill. Wasn't
Speaker 2: supposed to live. They drew spinal fluid at least five
Speaker 2: or six times for the first six month of my birth.
Speaker 2: So what we're learning now is that spinal fluid that
Speaker 2: was drained for me probably screwed up my psyche. And
Speaker 2: you know then it was I grew up in the
Speaker 2: mob with a boss as a father. People were dying
Speaker 2: left and right. Who's going to jail? I played it
Speaker 2: up like, Oh, we have another funeral. Oh I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wear this black dress with that fur coat. That's not normal,
Speaker 2: That's not what I know.
Speaker 1: I grew up at the racetrack with a lot of ties,
Speaker 1: and I grew up going and sitting at the crabs
Speaker 1: table at thirteen years old for weeks in Vegas and
Speaker 1: growing to nightclubs at the Rafters in Saratoga and fourteen
Speaker 1: like I get it, I really know it.
Speaker 2: Campaign and cocaine. That's the way I grew up. I
Speaker 2: grew up in the heyday goods villain.
Speaker 1: No and no money than all the money, all the
Speaker 1: cars in the driveway, then no money next week ever
Speaker 1: you're in the Yeah. My stepfather, John Paracel used to
Speaker 1: come in and tell me the bookies after him, and
Speaker 1: I would and I broke open my piggy back literally
Speaker 1: to give him cash. Like, but we had Mercedes in
Speaker 1: the driveway and a card table literally no furniture, but
Speaker 1: a Jaguar and a Mercedes in the driveway, and then
Speaker 1: that got taken away. I get it. It's like ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He was very connected. Joe Scandor, he was his uncle,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kam was sleeping on his couch and they
Speaker 1: were doing drug. Yeah, uncle James. Okay, so my stepfather
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kahn were like boys and doing blow together.
Speaker 2: Now my father and my uncle, because that was like the.
Speaker 1: Clip Ponti's yeah, John PEPs.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my uncle owns Splash in California, which was
Speaker 2: the first nightclub in Malibo. And oh, my other uncle
Speaker 2: owned Frankie's Frankie's on Melroads. My uncle was Frank Martin,
Speaker 2: the horse trainer, Like so I know, I.
Speaker 1: Know Frank Martin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had my auntrew the.
Speaker 1: Father, and the son Frank Martin, and then Jose Martin.
Speaker 2: Okay, but the other son, Frank Martin, who he just disrecurbed,
Speaker 2: he died.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Okay, So we know a lot of the
Speaker 1: same people because a lot of people don't know this
Speaker 1: part of my life. And it affects my relationships too,
Speaker 1: because in relationships with normal people, it's hard. When you
Speaker 1: grew up like you know, on a wild car chase,
Speaker 1: it's very difficult. You're an action junkie. So you were
Speaker 1: a junkie junkie. Without using a bad word, I'm just saying, like, so,
Speaker 1: let's get into that, all right. So you grew up
Speaker 1: and you were sick and your your father died and
Speaker 1: like so, so you had a proclivity to highs and lows.
Speaker 2: All right, let's pull that. I was a mob junkie.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I hate that word more than right in the world.
Speaker 1: I say action junkie, but it's a bad word. It's
Speaker 1: a junkie word. It's a junk word. I get it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm actually trying to change the perspective behind it,
Speaker 2: because a doctor could be one, a lawyer could be one.
Speaker 2: The lawyer that you're calling the bail you out could
Speaker 2: be sort and dope in the big Oh.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a stigma. And I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I was saying action junkie, but I yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree because there's a shame there that you want
Speaker 1: to stigmatize.
Speaker 2: And you know, a shout out to Richard Tate from
Speaker 2: the Carrera Treatment Center in Malibu. I just took a
Speaker 2: job with him. And now, yeah, he started Cliffside Malibu,
Speaker 2: so I took a job with him yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, I got crying.
Speaker 2: Podcasts helping people, so I'm going to have to interview you, yes,
Speaker 2: And it's just a way for me to give back.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize when I did my interview with
Speaker 2: Bunny that it was going to blow up. But it's
Speaker 2: been viral for the last five days. Every time she
Speaker 2: drops a clip, it goes viral. Really, Cardi b video
Speaker 2: she posted it viral. It's like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: God said, Okay, I got my hands on you this time,
Speaker 2: but you're gonna be out there in the public, so
Speaker 2: do what you need to do to save a life.
Speaker 2: Just know people are gonna hate you, people are gonna
Speaker 2: love you. But at the end of the day. My
Speaker 2: prerogative is to save somebody. Because somebody saved me.
Speaker 1: You have purpose, You have purpose. How there's so much
Speaker 1: to go through. So lamar Odom and Jason Waller from
Speaker 1: the Hills, that's interesting too, using your reality television career
Speaker 1: and fame and connections to these other people who have
Speaker 1: gone through a similar horrendous experience.
Speaker 2: So Jason helped me out. And I had had plastic surgery,
Speaker 2: so I had to go back on paying meds and
Speaker 2: that was that was two years ago. That wasn't acceptable,
Speaker 2: But Jason and Janah Woodbury did everything for me this
Speaker 2: time around. It was November two and I was sitting
Speaker 2: in a hotel. I had a friend who I was
Speaker 2: fighting with my whole family.
Speaker 1: So she's like, after you got after you almost died,
Speaker 1: you're talking about it a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, October, Tom, move here with me. Nobody in my
Speaker 2: family wanted to be bothered with me. So whatever money
Speaker 2: I had had went into a trust for my BRANDK
Speaker 2: and so I had no access to money.
Speaker 1: So who are you did that? You intervened in your
Speaker 1: own life and did that.
Speaker 2: It handles everything.
Speaker 1: You've given power of finances away.
Speaker 2: Power of attorney. I trust my sister with my whole life.
Speaker 2: So whatever, And it wasn't much, Bethany, because all the
Speaker 2: those years on television, I gave everything away. Here take this, here,
Speaker 2: take I left nothing for myself. I didn't even buy
Speaker 2: a house. Why. I don't know. Maybe I felt like
Speaker 2: the money wasn't gonna run out. They were also paying
Speaker 2: for all of my housing, so you know, why am
Speaker 2: I going to spend more money?
Speaker 1: But I was paying who the show is paying for housing? Yes,
Speaker 1: oh that was a good show.
Speaker 2: Well, my sister is the executive producer. My father threw
Speaker 2: me out. I couldn't. My father didn't talk to me
Speaker 2: for two years. I had nowhere to go. What was
Speaker 2: I gonna do? And here I am giving them a
Speaker 2: bigger story than anybody, aside from Karen Gravano because her
Speaker 2: story was extremely huge. I love Karen. You know. I
Speaker 2: talked to everybody, but Drida put it that way. Everybody.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Drida did an interview and said, now that Renee,
Speaker 2: well my wife was just coming back. Now that Renee's
Speaker 2: father is dead, who is she gonna be? Don't play
Speaker 2: with me and don't ever talk about my father in
Speaker 2: any way. Shape or form. So there is no respect
Speaker 2: for that girl whatsoever. She's called me a junkie more
Speaker 2: times than necessary, no respect none.
Speaker 1: More times than necessary. Is an interesting way to praise
Speaker 1: something Like you're saying you gave grace to like your mistakes,
Speaker 1: but there's more times than necessary.
Speaker 2: All the stuff you would do in the cloud did so.
Speaker 2: Now you want to air me out. Okay, so you
Speaker 2: want to You want me to hide your truths. Well
Speaker 2: you tell me you hide your truths while you speak.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you want to speak my truths and I
Speaker 2: hide your lives. Not acceptable anymore in my life. Not acceptable.
Speaker 2: If you burn me, be prepared not to be able
Speaker 2: to walk across that bridge because you burnt it.
Speaker 1: But what it feels like you're still you're not being
Speaker 1: paid for the show. Now you're still living that story
Speaker 1: in the show. Who cares about anybody that you like to?
Speaker 1: Haven't you? I don't get paid for that, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I'm feeling like you're still in the conflict.
Speaker 1: Like the way that I feel about women on the
Speaker 1: show that I used to be is like go be happy,
Speaker 1: be successful, Like everybody has a reason for why they are.
Speaker 1: The way they are and who care? What do you
Speaker 1: care about what anyone else is doing? It keeps coming up.
Speaker 2: People just keep dragging me and dragging me.
Speaker 1: And but the more you talk, yeah, I get it,
Speaker 1: but just like what.
Speaker 2: It's not all the women. Most of the women still
Speaker 2: call me and you know they send love. I just
Speaker 2: feel like, why are you mad? My sister put us
Speaker 2: all in this position to earn a tremendous amount of money.
Speaker 2: Why are you mad? What did I do? Actually? I
Speaker 2: hit it with your lives? So what did I actually do? Oh?
Speaker 2: I told you the truth about yourself?
Speaker 1: Sorry, do you have any interact? Where do you live?
Speaker 1: Where do you live?
Speaker 2: I just moved to California? So back to Because in
Speaker 2: all honesty, let me say this. There is a bitter
Speaker 2: feeling there. But she's not supposed to hold weight in
Speaker 2: my life. But it's very hurtful. So this isn't about her.
Speaker 2: It's about the hurt it's about them.
Speaker 1: It's funny because my therapist says, and it's really interesting
Speaker 1: you're dealing If you're dealing with something, you'll describe the
Speaker 1: situation like you just describe the situation. But she'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, but like, let's live in the feelings, like
Speaker 1: really like and when you I think if you live
Speaker 1: in the feelings, you might not that you wanted to
Speaker 1: reach out. Maybe she'll reach out and stop or say
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like if you live in the feelings that
Speaker 1: you feel vulnerable in hurt versus like the story of
Speaker 1: what's going on, like it.
Speaker 2: Is never ever allowed back in my life. She never
Speaker 2: showed up from my father's funeral. You'll cut off. That's
Speaker 2: the That's it for me. But any okay, I'm moving on.
Speaker 2: I wish I do wish her help and wealth, but
Speaker 2: I don't like her. Plain and simple. So November two
Speaker 2: and I was sitting I had just had a fight
Speaker 2: with my friend in Texas. She told my son, please
Speaker 2: have all your mother's stuff picked up. I called my son.
Speaker 2: I said, agam done. I can't it anymore. I can't fight.
Speaker 2: I'm tired. I said, I'm not going to kill myself.
Speaker 2: I'm Catholic. You know that's the biggest in in the world.
Speaker 2: So is getting high though f y he and I said,
Speaker 2: in case I never seen you again, I want you
Speaker 2: to know how much I love you. He said, MA,
Speaker 2: sit right there. My son got on the phone with
Speaker 2: my dear friend twenty nine, okay, twenty nine with four kids.
Speaker 2: I had twin girls the last and they turned one yesterday.
Speaker 2: So he made the phone poll pulled me back. My
Speaker 2: friend Bill O'Hara got me into recovery unplugged in Texas.
Speaker 2: I went in the next day. My girlfriend got mad
Speaker 2: at me that I didn't help her get her things
Speaker 2: all done and out and robbed everything I owned everything back,
Speaker 2: every pair of shoes, every pocketbook. I swear this on
Speaker 2: my four grandchildren's eyes, every single thing I owned. Everything
Speaker 2: my father left.
Speaker 1: Me because I was going to say, maybe this is
Speaker 1: some sign of starting Oh okay, oh the.
Speaker 2: Clothes got me sober. I know that sounds crazy, but
Speaker 2: trust me, I couldn't go out no more so. But
Speaker 2: she robbed my father's tie collection, and that was very
Speaker 2: important to me. That was like wow in him and I.
Speaker 2: My hand blessed rosaries from the Pope, my father met
Speaker 2: two different popes, my Bible from my grandmother, everything that
Speaker 2: meant something to me. Child. Yeah, very evil individual. My
Speaker 2: son was like, all right, I'm gonna have it picked
Speaker 2: up on Friday. She goes stop rising me. She's a
Speaker 2: crazy bitch and played in English fucking crazy. She is
Speaker 2: my mouth crazy. I walked into Detox with my Minx slippers,
Speaker 2: a sweatshirt and sweatpants and that was all I had.
Speaker 2: Oh and I just when she threw my pocketbook out
Speaker 2: the front door. I went to grab it and it
Speaker 2: happened to be my Gucci bag with my adult chain
Speaker 2: Gabana bag in it. Don't ask me one, but she
Speaker 2: stole every pair of eyeglasses I.
Speaker 1: Glass, what how did you afford rehab? Did it?
Speaker 2: So? I'm gonna Lamarrow phone call and he said, hey,
Speaker 2: please come to my treatment center. I want to help you.
Speaker 2: So Gina Rodriguez, who's his pr is a dear friend
Speaker 2: of mine. Lamar took care of everything. I walked into
Speaker 2: Vanity Wellness in California, and four months later, I'm sober
Speaker 2: a f I'm happy. I can't understand that thought yet.
Speaker 2: That's a little scary happy scary to me. I thrive
Speaker 2: in chaos. I come from chaos. So you know, when
Speaker 2: they say drama queen, I'm like Max all the way up.
Speaker 2: But that's it wasn't drama to me. It was my
Speaker 2: everyday life. And that's where I get a little frustrated.
Speaker 2: People like you're a drama queen. I'm not. I'm just
Speaker 2: a queen who lived in a life of drama. Big difference.
Speaker 1: And you've been an addict your whole life? How much
Speaker 1: of your life?
Speaker 2: So yeah, when I was younger, I partied, you know,
Speaker 2: I partied. But when I was my ex husband shouted
Speaker 2: my sacrum and he put his elbow through it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he broke my pain pills phone, he broke my rib like,
Speaker 2: but I would not tell on him because I was
Speaker 2: worried that he would be murdered. And for me, that
Speaker 2: was my sin then, so I never and then pain
Speaker 2: meds started thirty six. Oh, I owed deed for the
Speaker 2: first time on July fof in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: and three out. My mother didn't want to admit I
Speaker 2: was an addict, so she put me in a seventy
Speaker 2: two hour holdover where I was sexual assaulted by a predator.
Speaker 2: And that really is what changed me forever.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I spent my thirty seventh birthday in the mental wood
Speaker 2: for three weeks because I lost my mind after I
Speaker 2: was attacked. And I have a police report that blacks
Speaker 2: that up with a man admitted it.
Speaker 1: So you've been like medicating to forget since then and
Speaker 1: then you got down a hole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so medicated zanex. God, friend, I didn't want cocaine.
Speaker 2: I wanted xani.
Speaker 1: Where were you getting it?
Speaker 2: All the doctors made me? It was the doctors.
Speaker 1: No, I know that, but how because I've seen all
Speaker 1: the movies and I'm fascinated by topic because i have
Speaker 1: experience with it personally, Uh not me, but one person apart?
Speaker 1: And did you I did? Did you end up driving
Speaker 1: to other states and go like no?
Speaker 2: I was prescribed? True story two oxy eighties, six rock scenes,
Speaker 2: eight milligrams of xanax, diet pills, water pills, antidepressants, mood stabilizers.
Speaker 2: This is by the doctor's hand.
Speaker 1: That is the why is there any part of the
Speaker 1: addiction and the pills and all of it? That's not
Speaker 1: just only the chemical aspect, but like the process, like
Speaker 1: it's like a friend, it's like something to do. It's
Speaker 1: an activity, like let's get this, let's get that, let's
Speaker 1: organize it, because no one talks about that, and I
Speaker 1: think that's part of it too, right.
Speaker 2: So I was not an everyday user. Zan x became
Speaker 2: my life for a year straight, That's true. I kickation
Speaker 2: in twenty ten. Cocaine always played a part of my
Speaker 2: life always, but not It's like when I was done,
Speaker 2: it was over. I didn't get more. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 2: I party definitely.
Speaker 1: Going out Saturday night. You're getting a bag with friends,
Speaker 1: and it's fun. We're going out. It's like getting a
Speaker 1: bunch of drinks.
Speaker 2: Right. But the zon X took over my life really
Speaker 2: is that I got arrested. Nobody knows that what ovid.
Speaker 2: I had to go to jail for eight days. I
Speaker 2: was devastated.
Speaker 1: You were like, no one's gonna notice because everyone's in
Speaker 1: their home.
Speaker 2: I had twenty three hour lock up. It was supposed
Speaker 2: to be for a twenty twenty four hour thing. When
Speaker 2: I was being released, I had made a phone call.
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to pull this person. It was like
Speaker 2: a restraining order because the person was antagonizing me to
Speaker 2: a pall. I'm like, hey, I need my lawyer's number.
Speaker 2: Needless to say, that person was related to me. So
Speaker 2: I made the phone call. And when I was being released,
Speaker 2: they were like, did you call so and So. I go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I needed my lawyer's number. They go, you just violated
Speaker 2: the temporary restraining order. I was like oh no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I did not. That doesn't count. They were like, get
Speaker 2: it done. Eight dated. They kept me bare. I was devastated.
Speaker 1: At a jail.
Speaker 2: It was dirty. It was hewny.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's jail, so its dirty.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was mamma count holy shit. And I was like,
Speaker 2: can I have a pillow? They were like no, I said,
Speaker 2: my sheet has a hole? So what Can I donate
Speaker 2: mattresses to the women's prison.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, So I'm sleeping with the matts taking it.
Speaker 1: That's funny going you go into the mattresses. You went
Speaker 1: to the mattresses.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: You went to the mattresses. That's a that's crazy. What
Speaker 1: about your family not coming to the hospital because they
Speaker 1: thought you were dead or because they wrote you off
Speaker 1: and you were dead to them, they well, they're both.
Speaker 2: They weren't going to make it in time because of
Speaker 2: the timing, and they said it you know, by the
Speaker 2: time they got there, it wouldn't have happened. But they
Speaker 2: did write me off. So my sister Jennifer stopped talking
Speaker 2: to me for a year and a half and that
Speaker 2: was my closest relationship. My mother and I were constantly fighting.
Speaker 2: My oldest sister and I have always fought, so there's
Speaker 2: a lot of there's a lot of dysfunction in my family.
Speaker 2: My little and I shared a bedroom. We were very close.
Speaker 2: I was my father daddy. I'm fit, daddy's favorite kid.
Speaker 2: I'm the most entitled, I'm all of that. And then
Speaker 2: life just got hotter. I was bullied in grammar school,
Speaker 2: terribly bullied. I was told how ugly I was on
Speaker 2: an everyday basis, so I took that on that became me.
Speaker 2: I was ugly no matter what you said to me.
Speaker 2: I was ugly. I filled it in my heart and soul.
Speaker 2: And you know, I wasn't allowed to wear contacts until
Speaker 2: freshman year or a high school. My mother gave me
Speaker 2: the worst haircuts in the world. You know all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But I were a disaster.
Speaker 2: I was physically developed, and I was never ugly FYI
Speaker 2: never I know that now, But I was physically developed.
Speaker 2: So all the boys liked me, and the two girls
Speaker 2: that bullied me, they would invite me to boy girl
Speaker 2: parties and send me home because the boys liked me
Speaker 2: so but there was something wrong with me all of
Speaker 2: my life. My first boyfriend, I was like turning fifteen.
Speaker 2: He was physically abusive and that's how it started. He
Speaker 2: ended up my father. I came home with a black
Speaker 2: guy and he said, Rene, what happened to your face?
Speaker 2: I said, oh, I walked into the door. My father goes,
Speaker 2: sit down before you walk into the door again. And
Speaker 2: I sat there and he goes, what happened? And I
Speaker 2: told him. My father made a phone book two phone calls.
Speaker 2: One was to the boyfriend's ex boyfriend's father and the
Speaker 2: other one was to four guys. My father said, get
Speaker 2: in the car. I said, okay, and don't talk. Swear
Speaker 2: to God. True story in the Lincoln downclock. We get
Speaker 2: to our family restaurant. My father goes, go in the
Speaker 2: restaurant and don't go by the window. So what does
Speaker 2: that mean to you?
Speaker 1: What is that I can go by the window?
Speaker 2: Thank you? I watched him have his arm broken. And
Speaker 2: it was that day that I never ever would tell
Speaker 2: on another person again because I felt that was my fault.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't. So now add this all up insecurity, abuse,
Speaker 2: dysfunction in the.
Speaker 1: Household, action, highs and lows, murder.
Speaker 2: My father's in jail, all this stuff. I meet my
Speaker 2: ex husband when I'm very young. I was twenty got
Speaker 2: engaged a month and nineteen days after I met him.
Speaker 2: My ex my father did not want me to marry him.
Speaker 2: He was not Italian. Somebody spoke on his behalf. That
Speaker 2: person too became a snitch, so we should have never
Speaker 2: trusted him. And my ex husband started with the abuse,
Speaker 2: knocking the shit out of me.
Speaker 1: My father was it'd be weird to go knock the
Speaker 1: shit out of a mob boss's daughter.
Speaker 2: But he also knew I wasn't telling.
Speaker 1: Still fucked up it is? And what is your relationship
Speaker 1: with your family now besides your sister? Like, are you
Speaker 1: mending my senses? Do they trust you?
Speaker 2: Everybody? Since I checked in on November three last year,
Speaker 2: I have spoken to my son every single day, at
Speaker 2: least two times a day, at least two times a day.
Speaker 2: I just flew my grandkids out to California. We went
Speaker 2: to Disney and Universal. My daughter in law and I
Speaker 2: have had like the relationship. We're on the phone, got
Speaker 2: the bing like, oh yay, everyone in my family, every that.
Speaker 1: You really meant you really did you did the work?
Speaker 1: Friend that every one of your friends that are my
Speaker 1: real friends? Yeah, yeah, I know, Renee.
Speaker 2: We're proud of you. I can't believe and what has
Speaker 2: happened in four months? I can't even tell you. Like
Speaker 2: the job that I just got, getting paid, the amount
Speaker 2: of money I just got, it's like, oh wait a second,
Speaker 2: I don't got to sell my soul anymore.
Speaker 1: You have like a real job, and it's not like
Speaker 1: bullshit entertainment. We have to have the hiles. You're like
Speaker 1: a legitimate, like grown up job.
Speaker 2: I you know, I spoke with Vivoca Fox, Justina Valentine
Speaker 2: Havoc for Mob Deep. All these people are like I
Speaker 2: asked them, you know, can I innovate you? You Jason
Speaker 2: from the Dallas Jason Hatchet from the Dallas Cabin. It's
Speaker 2: like an A list celebrity lineup, Amazing Bunny roll, whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever you need, we got. You don't pay for anything.
Speaker 1: What's fascinating is because I hear this with other people.
Speaker 1: You hit the bottom, but it wasn't really the bottom.
Speaker 1: When you went when you almost died, you went back
Speaker 1: and used again like you didn't go. You didn't go
Speaker 1: to rehab, Like what the fuck? Like people would be like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck about that?
Speaker 2: I didn't go for a month?
Speaker 1: I didn't So what was that much.
Speaker 2: I was really battling with the devil, Like I kid
Speaker 2: you not. I feel like he, literally, the grim reaper king.
Speaker 1: Was holding you there with the battle.
Speaker 2: Every day I'd get up and and that next six weeks,
Speaker 2: I definitely use like I would say maybe five or
Speaker 2: six times. Absolutely absolutely, But.
Speaker 1: I was interested that ax.
Speaker 2: No, I went back to the pill from the pharmacy.
Speaker 2: Let me take that pill. I know where it's coming from.
Speaker 1: But because you're you're justifying in your mind, that doesn't
Speaker 1: count because it came from a doctor. Like it's different
Speaker 1: than yeah.
Speaker 2: I wanted to die. You know. I touched on this
Speaker 2: a little bit when my father passed away in nineteen.
Speaker 2: I went to a hospital and they said, okay, you
Speaker 2: know what. You're a candidate for shock treatment. You have
Speaker 2: major depressive disorder. We're gonna do six sessions. You're not
Speaker 2: going to be sad anymore. If someone would have told
Speaker 2: me you're gonna get hit on your head with a
Speaker 2: block of cement and you're not going to be sad anymore,
Speaker 2: I would have said, drop five, drop five. So I
Speaker 2: did six sessions and it destroyed me.
Speaker 1: It uh the opposite direction.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's where my addiction then became like I
Speaker 2: stopped sleeping completely. Everything was magnified, magnified. My body's in
Speaker 2: physical pain all the time from like the surgeries I've
Speaker 2: had over the years. So now I suffer like with
Speaker 2: physical pain. But I put on a light, a kan
Speaker 2: patch five percent lightcain. I don't take any medication for that.
Speaker 2: I take prozac, which they're giving to every woman now
Speaker 2: in menopause.
Speaker 1: And you don't drink.
Speaker 2: No, I never liked alcohol.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're in a world now where I know
Speaker 1: you didn't like alcohol. But people, so many people are sober, curious,
Speaker 1: so many people are just walking around sober now, and
Speaker 1: so I think it's an interesting time. I mean, I
Speaker 1: have a mocktail brand literally because I wanted to speak
Speaker 1: to this space. But it's very prevalent. And are you worried?
Speaker 1: Do you crave? Do you think about it? Are you
Speaker 1: worried about going out and being social and being normal
Speaker 1: and not hanging out with other addicts going through what
Speaker 1: you're going through? Hang out with people that are partying?
Speaker 2: Okay, So my core group of friends, they drink, they
Speaker 2: don't get high, never.
Speaker 1: Did, nobody does, okay, And you don't want to drink,
Speaker 1: so you don't care.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah. I lost someone who I considered a
Speaker 2: brother to suicide in October and that's where the change came.
Speaker 2: Like I couldn't believe I lost this person in my
Speaker 2: life that was like my brother. He was the savior
Speaker 2: and he committed suicide and it devastated me. And that
Speaker 2: was my choice to get right and since then, when
Speaker 2: I tell you bethen he it's just I don't know
Speaker 2: what the feeling is. I can't even explain it to you.
Speaker 2: It's this feeling of, oh my god, I'm happy. What
Speaker 2: do I do with happy? That's what scares me.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2: Why does this guy want to take me out on
Speaker 2: a date? Oh no, oh no, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like so there's like this siren that goes off, which
Speaker 2: I have to attention to that siren because for me,
Speaker 2: that's like danger. Danger, and danger to me means self medicaid.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a great therapist and life coach.
Speaker 1: You have great because I have the great person out
Speaker 1: in la not touchy feeling, not freud, but like okay,
Speaker 1: full on. He's amazing. You should have him on you.
Speaker 1: He's amazing. He's like intervene in your own life. He's
Speaker 1: very he's amazing.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'll give you his information. Yeah, I mean, I also
Speaker 1: have an incredible I've been with the same. I have
Speaker 1: an incredible therapist. But the life coach guy is in
Speaker 1: lak and he's had the craziest life too, of like
Speaker 1: money and addiction and wealthy parents and dated all these
Speaker 1: famous models and like he changed his whole life years ago.
Speaker 1: But he's a major. He's a major guy. You would
Speaker 1: like him. He's not bullshit either.
Speaker 2: I became a life coach and twenty myself, and I
Speaker 2: can coach somebody else's life.
Speaker 1: Just not no, but not yeah, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you're sometimes people feel uncomfortable. For me, it's not
Speaker 1: being happy, it's it's normalcy and peace feels weird, just
Speaker 1: like level and normalcy and not the eyes and the
Speaker 1: low sometimes feel weird. Just like you just feel like good.
Speaker 1: You just feel okay. You wake up okay, you feel settled,
Speaker 1: you don't feel mercurial, you don't feel erradic, you just
Speaker 1: feel like a human being.
Speaker 2: I wake up every day and I'm like, okay, the
Speaker 2: sun is shining, even when it's raining. The sun is shining.
Speaker 2: It's the conversations between my son and I that are
Speaker 2: really everything to me. It's everything. My sister Jennifer just
Speaker 2: signed back on from management with my other manager, Chris,
Speaker 2: Like it's just incredible that four months and it turned
Speaker 2: around like it never happened. However, it did happen, and
Speaker 2: I have to remind myself every day that that did happen.
Speaker 1: Right, you could be on the high of the sobriety
Speaker 1: right now, Like that's a different high, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm not on that pink cloud because I do cry still,
Speaker 2: so I'm not on no. I do miss my father.
Speaker 2: I did a ketymine treatment and I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know who Zappi is. Do you know that name? Okay,
Speaker 2: oh lamar Odom and this gentleman Zappie bought like fifty
Speaker 2: acres in Malibos and they do these ketamine treatments. So
Speaker 2: ten years ago and you do it what a doctor?
Speaker 2: You know you process? So for me, I had to
Speaker 2: figure out how am I gonna let go of my father?
Speaker 2: Stop saying I want to be with my father. I
Speaker 2: have full grandkids. That's the most selfish statement in the world.
Speaker 2: And I gotta live. I have to live. Big Anne's
Speaker 2: died and she used to always say, We're out here
Speaker 2: for a long time, for a good time. And it
Speaker 2: just been playing over every day in my life. Every
Speaker 2: day I hear that and I'm like, Okay, what am
Speaker 2: I gonna do today? Today, I'm gonna go to the beach.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit by the word. And it's changed me.
Speaker 2: I just I want to help somebody, like I want
Speaker 2: people to understand you do have a purpose. I spoke
Speaker 2: at and I had like ten minutes to give this speech,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what am I going to say?
Speaker 2: And I said, basically, Uh, if the disease of addiction
Speaker 2: would have told me that I was going to rob
Speaker 2: my son of thirteen years of his life, I would
Speaker 2: have fought harder. If the disease of addiction would have
Speaker 2: told me that I'd married my abuser, I would have
Speaker 2: thought harder. If the disease of addiction would have told
Speaker 2: me that I was going to cause pain and suffering
Speaker 2: to the ones that loved me and anyone who entered
Speaker 2: my life, I would have bought harder. It goes on
Speaker 2: for like three more and then at the end, I said,
Speaker 2: matter of fact, the disease of addiction did tell me,
Speaker 2: but I was too high to hear it.
Speaker 1: M Wow and wow. Do you have any attraction now
Speaker 1: to entertainment and fame or you don't care?
Speaker 2: I know this is going to sound a little off,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've always been in that limelight
Speaker 2: because of my father. So uh huh fame. Fame is infamacy,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, yeah, infamy, Yeah, of
Speaker 2: course I do Realizy TV. Again, I'm grat at it,
Speaker 2: but I mean break bringing TV. But I you know,
Speaker 2: with the exception of Mob Wives, I didn't use on
Speaker 2: television mob Wives, I was still an addiction. But I
Speaker 2: don't use when I work, like that's a different. I'm
Speaker 2: just naturally, you know, good crazy. I say what's on
Speaker 2: my mind, So do you? You say what's on your heart? Period?
Speaker 2: You don't care. You say it and you skin what
Speaker 2: you say. And that's why I have a disrespect for you,
Speaker 2: because you do it, you say it, you do it,
Speaker 2: and that's what I am very welcome. I have to
Speaker 2: do what I say, walk well and don't care about
Speaker 2: the dream is of the world or they you know,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: The men don't get men don't think like that. Men
Speaker 1: don't think like, oh my god, I can't. I just
Speaker 1: said that to her, and I feel bad now, and
Speaker 1: what's everyone going to think? And I'm still even programmed
Speaker 1: a little bit like that, even though it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like I am. But men don't second guess what they're
Speaker 1: saying and thinking like little babies like we do, and
Speaker 1: we have to. That's one thing that should even out.
Speaker 1: You said it, and you back it up and it's okay.
Speaker 1: And you try to please everybody, you please nobody, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to be best friends with everybody.
Speaker 2: Oh please. Dating is off the table, and smack, I
Speaker 2: can smack people with my words. Dating is off the table.
Speaker 2: I'm done. It's been a April, will be a year.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Last night I was thinking about Drew Barrymore seeming like
Speaker 1: she's got a you know, on her show, she's got
Speaker 1: a career, she got a meaningful life, she has purpose.
Speaker 1: She doesn't seem that interested in she talks about it,
Speaker 1: doesn't seem that interested in it. And Kelly Clarkson was like,
Speaker 1: I am not interested in it, but not in a
Speaker 1: way where you're bitter. Like they're like, I have a
Speaker 1: relationship with my kids. I am of a successful show.
Speaker 1: And even Hodah was saying she went on dates. And
Speaker 1: it was funny because Jenna was saying, and you know,
Speaker 1: and now there means there is hope. But you could
Speaker 1: tell that Hoda was saying, no, I just went on
Speaker 1: dates because it means I'm not with my kids and
Speaker 1: I'm not working. But like, I don't need it. Just
Speaker 1: seems like everybody's not being defiant when they say I
Speaker 1: don't need a man, but they literally are saying, I
Speaker 1: don't need anyone to complete me.
Speaker 2: I'm good anybody to coplicate me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, that's what I'm hearing a lot from women fifty plus,
Speaker 1: and no one's really it's getting louder like it's really
Speaker 1: a thing women being like, I don't need it. I'm
Speaker 1: good and not in a not in an insecure way,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. We've heard that before, right.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of young girls are just giving
Speaker 2: it away. And why by the cow if you get
Speaker 2: the milk for free, like my mother would always say
Speaker 2: that to me, So why am I going to add
Speaker 2: this guy into my life who wants to day twenty
Speaker 2: five year old girls because he's going through midlife prices.
Speaker 2: Take your midlife prices and stick it up your asks.
Speaker 1: Well, I think a lot of young girls also want
Speaker 1: someone to save them, want someone who's rich going to
Speaker 1: take care of them. And then they're going to realize
Speaker 1: in ten years when they're sitting home smoking cigarettes, drinking
Speaker 1: wine with their friends and bored and like want to
Speaker 1: go on all these trips that they should have enjoyed
Speaker 1: their lives on the front end, because you have your
Speaker 1: whole life to be bored, to be old, to complain
Speaker 1: about your back to the biggest exciting thing is like
Speaker 1: had you sleep last night? So on the front they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be rushing that process because the people that are
Speaker 1: in their fifties are realizing that they've done the marriage
Speaker 1: and it ain't all it's cracked up.
Speaker 2: To me, my ex husband's last name is Pagan. Wait ready,
Speaker 2: I got married in a church called Our Lady of
Speaker 2: Pity and a black crow sat on the perch like
Speaker 2: on the thing above me, and the priest had a
Speaker 2: three karac katy ring going on the way down the aisle.
Speaker 2: I go, dad, I don't want to marry this guy.
Speaker 2: He got swear on everything hole. He goes like this,
Speaker 2: get down the fucking aisle because I just spent two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand and two. So two fifty and
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three was he h, we'll get to boss tomorrow.
Speaker 2: You got five hundred people coming down the aisle and
Speaker 2: I cried it derekly, and people thought I was crying
Speaker 2: because I was happy. I was crying because I was
Speaker 2: marrying the devil.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. He that it's hilarious. Now it's not that,
Speaker 1: but that's your son's father. Unfortunately, yes, he's the they
Speaker 1: have a relationship.
Speaker 2: I did no. He rated on my father. So when
Speaker 2: I died on mob wives from plastic surgery, really died
Speaker 2: flatlines mersed it through my whole body in the hospital
Speaker 2: for four months. Read my last rites twice. This man
Speaker 2: comes back to me, Bethany and gives me this watch
Speaker 2: and it was the one Rolex I didn't have long
Speaker 2: story should when he went into jail, he took money
Speaker 2: from me, and he's telling everybody in these interviews he
Speaker 2: left me everything. The only thing you left me was
Speaker 2: embarrassed and crumbs. Because what you did to me was
Speaker 2: you took my father, who just did twelve years, came
Speaker 2: home three months and you took my father. My son
Speaker 2: caught a beaten from these kids because his father was
Speaker 2: a rat. They gave my son fourteenth staples. So what
Speaker 2: did you leave me? You left me problems? What did
Speaker 2: you leave me? My house robbed twice? Wow?
Speaker 1: Where's he?
Speaker 2: Now's the story? So he came two years ago, three
Speaker 2: years I was sober, ten months sober. He started with
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna kill you, the threats.
Speaker 2: What are you killing me for? You read it? I
Speaker 2: didn't you with the murderer, not me. You didn't want
Speaker 2: to do the time for the crime you committed. Why
Speaker 2: are you threatening me? So it's an like it still
Speaker 2: happens to this day. And it's terrible because I won't
Speaker 2: get a restraining order, but I will tell you that
Speaker 2: I might. I might because you know what, I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like it's a little scary with him because
Speaker 2: I know he really is a murderer. Okay, he went
Speaker 2: to jail for it. He he Oh wait, the funny
Speaker 2: part about the watch. So after he left and he
Speaker 2: left me in debt, I find his watch collection. I'm like,
Speaker 2: screw it. I'll hop him and I'll pay the taxes.
Speaker 2: All the watches were fake and all the watches had wires.
Speaker 2: True story, swear, swear, It's in the court documents. Yep.
Speaker 2: He was taping my father and my I hear my
Speaker 2: mother on the tape saying, Junior, do you want breakfast?
Speaker 2: Do you wants bacon or sausage? And this? And how
Speaker 2: do you want your eggs? My mother? You tape my mother?
Speaker 2: You should go to hell. I wish you.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a great wow, oh my God, Like I.
Speaker 2: Wish him a hundred angry Renees every day of my life.
Speaker 2: And trust me, when I'm angry, I'd rather die.
Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I mean, I'm so glad that I got
Speaker 1: to speak to you because in the times that I
Speaker 1: met you, I'm sure it was four minutes, three minutes,
Speaker 1: six minutes, And like that's why I will never forget
Speaker 1: having met you and gotten to know you again, like never.
Speaker 1: And I felt it's weird though, I felt like I
Speaker 1: know her, but I don't know how, and I apologize
Speaker 1: for that deeply, but like I will never forget again. Ever.
Speaker 1: You're amazing. I'm really happy for you. I'm happy you're alive.
Speaker 1: I'm happy you connected with the right people. And I'm
Speaker 1: really proud that you're sober and have connected with your
Speaker 1: family and raising awareness for this ventanyl thing. That's crazy
Speaker 1: because I'm hearing stories of snap Chat and people finding
Speaker 1: these dealers and teens going for adderall and it being
Speaker 1: laced with fentanyl. And like, I've got a thirteen year
Speaker 1: old daughter who's turning fourteen, and I tell her, don't
Speaker 1: ever even put your drink down. Doesn't matter if it's water,
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're drilling.
Speaker 2: She lives in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're drilling in fear to these kids because it's
Speaker 1: a different world than when we grew up. And I
Speaker 1: really don't care.
Speaker 2: Well, tell us she had the fairy mob mother.
Speaker 1: I will a fairy mob mother. Yes, what we got.
Speaker 1: She loves California, We love Malibu, so we're we. I
Speaker 1: love that you're doing this and let me know what
Speaker 1: you need. But I really good for you. Stay the course.
Speaker 1: You listen to Steve madd and your addiction is more
Speaker 1: important than anything. And the sobriety's your best friend and
Speaker 1: your family member. Now, Yes, love you, bethy, thank you,
Speaker 1: love you tonight, Thank you so much, congratulations, thank you,
Speaker 1: Bye bye,