1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Like games over there the world. You plenty to win 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: the game. He's got it. Jet sucks down. You're listening 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a Jets three 4 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: sixty production. He A, the draft is it's fast approaching. 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: You could say it's not fast enough, Greens And it 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: is kind of a slow time of year right now, 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: between the owners meetings and the NFL Draft. To me, 8 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: it's a little slow. There's a lot of hoop while 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: out there. You read a lot are every day because 10 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: you know you're here at the facility. You're seeing prospects 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: come in left and right because the Jets are in 12 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the middle of their prospect physics right now. But that's 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: all wrapping up. And then Mike mccagnan and Brian Himendinger, 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: uh Todd Bowls, all the scouts, everybody's gonna get together. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: They put the big board together, and we're not that 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: far away. Two weeks is a long time, to say 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the least, especially in the NFL world. Later in the show, 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: today again the Official Jets Podcast with Ethan Greenberg and 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Eric Allen, we're gonna bring in CBS Sports Jason Locking 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: for all things draft, maybe a little free agency recap 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: there to get his opinions, because he's a very intelligent 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: guy throughout the National Football League. Nfellow Syracuse alum, I 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: didn't even say it, but yeah, I had to bring 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: off because I know that would put you in a 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: good mood. Thank you. I appreciate that. I guess e A. 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: My question he would be like, as only a couple 27 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of weeks away now, is what what can really change 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: between now and the NFL Draft. Well, I don't know 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: if teams at this point today have their final grades 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: set on everybody. They're still collecting and processing information and 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: it's not there as far as we know exactly who 32 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: we're taking. I bet you, if you want to Cleveland 33 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: right now they have the number one overall selection, I 34 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: bet you a hundred percent. They don't know who they're taking. 35 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: They might have a good idea, but I don't know 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: if they're there yet. So I still think, you know, 37 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: you gotta be very thorough in the process. And you know, 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: for the Jets, you're sitting there at number three overall, 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: But not only are you sitting there at number three, 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: what can change? Greens? They have six traffics. Let's take 41 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: into account not only number three, which we will focus 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: on today because we're not gonna bury the lead, per se, 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: but those picks in the third, the fourth, the fifth, 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 1: the six, those are all very important. Is you continue 45 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: to build depth to your program. So I think a 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: ton of things can change. You go Thursday night and 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: it's just one round, but then it really starts again. 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: It starts a new on Friday with rounds two and three, 49 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: and then the day three is hugely important top of 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: your team as you continue to build, and then the 51 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff has to take these guys and mold them. 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: And what are those late day gems you can find 53 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: that can help you out down the line. Bottom line, 54 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna focus in on a lot of number three, 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: but a ton can change because we don't know who 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the Browns are selecting. Did the Giants know exactly what 57 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: they're going to do? I don't know. I mean, maybe 58 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna be taking a lot of calls about people 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: want to come up and take a quarterback at two 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: and the other thing you have to do and I'm 61 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: giving you a long winded answer, but I'm all over 62 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: the place because I'm so excited about this is that 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: if you're in a war room right now, or if 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you're in a draft room right now, I should say 65 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: you have to say, well, I think Cleveland's gonna do this, 66 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: but what if the Giants do this? But what if 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: the Bills come up to two? Who are the guys 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: are going to be there? And you might be on 69 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: the clock at three not knowing exactly who those teams 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: are going to take until it actually have been. It 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: seems that a lot of these big conversations, like what 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: you're saying is, you know, if you're in the war 73 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: room and you're Mike mccagnet and Brian himer Dinger and 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the talent evaluation across the collegiate level, 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: is you're asking, Okay, well, what are the Browns gonna do? 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: What are the Giants gonna do? Does this team look 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: like they're gonna move up and potentially trade ahead of 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: the Jets general he said that the Jets pay attention 79 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: to mock drafts. Well, yeah, And I think it's funny 80 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: because a lot of those same conversations are probably happening 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: not only inside the football world, but as a water 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: cooler conversation throughout fans across the league. And I think 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting because there are a thousand different scenarios 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: based on who gets drafted where and who moves up 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: and who moves back. And I think that's just the 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: nature of the beast in the NFL draft and why 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: it's so exciting because it is unpredictable, because you couldn't 88 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: expect the Kansas City Chiefs to move up seventeen spots 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: and draft Patrick Mahomes. No. But what you're seeing two 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: thousand and eight team draft class, and I'd like to 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this, is that the way people 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: are talking about the quarterbacks right now is that you 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: have this top quartet and that's in any order you're 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna put it. It's San Donald, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, 95 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield. But how do teams stack them up together? 96 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: And what the Jets did by moving up to number 97 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: three from number six, they've been sured and staring at 98 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: least two of those four. Now, if the Giants take 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: a positional player, you'll be staring at three of those four. 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: I'd be fascinated. And all what other clubs think of 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: guys like Lamar Jackson and Mason Rudolph and you know 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna ask Jason lacap about that. Could we have 103 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: half a dozen quarterbacks go in the first round. I 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: think it's probably very possible. I think so too, and 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: especially if the quartet like you mentioned in Sam Donald, 106 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: Josh Roseen, Josh Island, and Baker mayfew. If those guys 107 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: go real early that I think it bumps up where 108 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: someone like Lamar Jackson or Mason Rudolph gets selected, because 109 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: if four of the top five picks or quarterbacks, then 110 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: you're looking if you want the next best guy, you 111 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: gotta make a move to make sure that you get 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: that guy, similar to the way the Jets moved up 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: to ensure that they're facing at least two of the 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: top four prospects come the third overall selection. Again, as 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: we sit here, I think the prevailing notion from people 116 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: who covered the National Football League on a daily basis, 117 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the belief is Cleveland is going to go either Josh 118 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Allen or Sam Donald at two. I don't sense that 119 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: people have a good read on the Giants. Whatsoever could 120 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: they take a quarterback? What do they think about Davis Webb. 121 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: We know that they're committed to Eli Manning. With that 122 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: being said, they still could take a quarterback. And if 123 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Donald comes off the board at one with the Giants, 124 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: be interested in Ellen or Rosen or one of those 125 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: clubs that everybody talks about, whether it's the Buffalo Bills, 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: maybe the Miami Dolphins, maybe Arizona. Will they make those 127 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: calls because they like their guy at two? And at 128 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: what point for some of these teams was a price 129 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: too high? I don't know. If you asked me today, 130 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you quarterback. I would say it's a 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: d percent go on one. I have no idea what's happening. 132 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: It's a couple of things in regards the Giants. Is 133 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I know a lot of analysts have project the Bills 134 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: as a likely trade partner to number two. But if 135 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: you're Dave Gentleman and the Giants, is, are you really 136 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: comfortable moving back ten spots? Because this is a draft 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: that many people believe there's only a few select blue 138 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: chippers in this draft and then the talent level drops off. 139 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: But there's really good depth. I think something it's very 140 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting because Eli Manning is, you know, at the ladder 141 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: half maybe ladder eighth of his career, Yeah, eight years old? 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: Is how often are you picking top three overall, so 143 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, you might you know, it may seem obvious 144 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: that they're gonna draft a quarterback, but if you really 145 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: do believe in Eli Manning and you're not sold on 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: any of these guys, then maybe you just want someone 147 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: like Bradley Chubb. Because they just traded Jason Pierre Paul 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers last month, so there are 149 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: really a thousand different combinations to the lock All right, 150 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: are you just mentioned Jason. Let's bring in Jason Lockett 151 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: four and continue to talk about the draft here in 152 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: a moment without further ado. Let's bring in Jason Lockett 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: four of CBS Sports. What have you thought of the 154 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Jets off season to date? Specifically, early on Plan A, 155 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: they targeted Kirk Cousins in free agency, but then they 156 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: pivoted quickly. Yeah. I mean, look, you've always got to 157 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: have contingencies. And as much as they knew the extent 158 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: to which they were willing to go for Kirk Cousins 159 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: and as much as they wanted to present a plan 160 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: to him, that made it clear that, look, we're prepared 161 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: to build this franchise around you and pay you, you know, 162 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: in ways that no one, frankly has ever been paid 163 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: in this league before they knew that Minnesota had a 164 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: different sort of point in their sort of evolution. And 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, there were certain things that the Vikings could 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: offer that the Jets, frankly, just couldn't right now. So 167 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: it's not as if they ever as much as they 168 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: were all in on Kirk Cousins that he was the 169 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: only person. And obviously there was some other backup quarterbacks, 170 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, one with some upside and teddy and one 171 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: who frankly was i mean, one of the top five 172 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: to six quarterbacks in the a f C. And maybe 173 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm selling them shut. Maybe I mean it might be 174 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: more like three to five, considering the down years a 175 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys had in this conference last year, and 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: the cown who obviously is already a scheme fit and 177 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: who has proven to be one of the premier quarterback mentors, 178 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: all around good guys, perfect bridge quarterbacks in the NFL. 179 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: The problem for the Jets is they haven't had the 180 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: guy on the other side of that bridge to bring along. 181 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: And we they're about the case that um with the 182 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: third overall pick, and clearly they did you know, anybody 183 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: who thinks that, oh, well, they reversed course and started 184 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: really getting in on these young quarterbacks once they lost 185 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Cousins is foolish and naive. They've always been going down 186 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: to parallel pass one. We want to do as much 187 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: work on all these kids so that we feel comfortable 188 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: about getting the best guy possible for our franchise if 189 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: we need to use that selection on the quarterback, and 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: we're also going to throw a lot of money and 191 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: energy at Kirk Cousins, and you know now they're at 192 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: a point where they're gonna be drafting our quarterback. We're 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot about quarterbacks. There's no doubt about that. 194 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: But you mentioned that obviously Reese si McCown with a 195 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: lower risk, potentially high reward signing at Sundy Bridgewater the 196 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: star of the free agency class for the Jets, of course, 197 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: true Maine Johnson and also Jason They've been very active, 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: but they've set themselves up long term because they have 199 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: a lot of money under the camp again in two 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, where you know better than I do, I 201 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: guess that class is supposed to be star studded. We'll 202 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: see what happens when we get there next France. Yeah, 203 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean we'll see it in this day and age. 204 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how star studied any free agent class 205 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: is going to be, because the cab continues to grow, 206 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: and as teams continue to realize we'd rather reinvest in 207 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: our own guys and take chances in free agency. And 208 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: as we've seen, I mean, we've got guards making thirty 209 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: million guaranteed over to you know, we got guards being 210 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: paid like left tackles. We got numbers three and four 211 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers being paid like number ones in free agency. 212 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: As much as the Jets were prepared to spend, there 213 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: were thresholds where they you know, they just weren't going 214 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: to go to They weren't going to give Dante Montre 215 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: ten million dollars just to walk into building. And there's 216 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: certain other guys they liked, but but at a certain 217 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: price point, and you bend a little more for some 218 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: uh more than others. I mean, you mentioned true that 219 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: that's a player that, um, they've been well aware of 220 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: for a long time. You mentioned Brian Hyman Ding. I mean, 221 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: Brian obviously came from the RAMS organization. You know, he 222 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: was around Jeff Fisher and all those guys, and and 223 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: a part of their scouting staff when they were bringing 224 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: true and into the league. So they you know, they've 225 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: got a pretty good book on him and they know 226 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: what they're getting. And obviously landing a guy or two 227 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: to help supplement the young safeties that that they're developing 228 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: um and that in that defensive secondary was something that 229 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: had to do in free agency, you know, and they 230 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: did it um and I mean as as much as 231 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: they you know, as they did in free agency. They're 232 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: also at a point now to where this is about 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: player development and about you know, they were a young 234 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: team last year, really young, and I felt punched above 235 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: their weight class more weeks than not. And where you know, 236 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: if those guys stay on, enough of those guys stay 237 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: on that trajectory next year, then you know that lessons 238 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: the need to go out and spend it five or 239 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: six positions in free agency because ultimately, you know, they 240 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: want to be a team whose bread and butter is 241 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: the draft. You're down there in Maryland, Jason, what do 242 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: you think about Terrell Prior's edition. Obviously last year a 243 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: tough one for him since he got hurt early in 244 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: the year, But that year prior in two thousand and 245 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: six yeen he broke out in Cleveland. And speaking of 246 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: the former Browns, how about Isaiah kroll All as well? 247 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: What about those two guys? What potentially they could add 248 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: to this offense? Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's it's 249 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: low risk endeavors. Those are positions that they may continue 250 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: drafting at in the mid rounds or whatever. But in 251 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: the meantime, you know, you want to have NFL caliber 252 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: players helping to supplement your roster. And would you rather 253 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: take Terrell Prior or would you rather give Moncree ten 254 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: million just for showing up at Mark Easley eighteen million 255 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed over two years just because he caught some balls 256 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: in this league, or a thirty three year old Jordy 257 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: Nelson guarantee him two years at fifteen million, even though 258 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: if you don't know he could still run. If that's 259 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: where things are going and it's that haywire, then you're 260 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to keep drafting skill guys. And I'll take 261 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: my shot with Prior on a relatively no frills look 262 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: see kind of a situation. And look, Crowell was a 263 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: guy who has shown that he can carry a heavy load. 264 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: He didn't really get that heavy. The load though, because 265 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: the Browns were often behind in games and chucking it 266 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: all over the place, and you know Kaiser throwing picks 267 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: in the end on it all that, I think he 268 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: was kind of awkwardly utilized. I'll maybe frame it that way, 269 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: but someone who could be a grinder for them and 270 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: just helped keep the chains moving. But again, would not 271 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: shock me if they're doing something with a running back 272 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: at some point in this draft as well. Jason, where 273 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: do you stand with this quarterback class coming out of 274 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: the draft with Sam Donald, Josh Rosen, Josh Allen, and 275 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. And I know that you recently wrote that 276 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: you don't believe Josh Allen is gonna make it past 277 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: number three come April. I don't. I mean, look, he 278 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: may not make it to two. I mean he's certainly 279 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: in play with the Cleveland Browns and that maybe John 280 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Dorsey's liking you know too. I can't tell you I 281 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: know what the Giants are gonna do. I don't know 282 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: that the Giants absolutely know what the Giants are going 283 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: to do. I think he should draft a quarterback, but 284 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they could be trading 285 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: out of that spot. I could see the Bills going 286 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: up to two and taking Donald. I could see the 287 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Giants taking a quarterback just because logic would dictate it. 288 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Or I could see Dave Gentleman saying, I'm rolling with 289 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Eli for two years and I'm gonna take Chubber Barkley 290 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: because they're the best players on my board. But if 291 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: you made me guests right now, if you made me 292 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: do a mock draft right now, and I will refuse 293 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: to do that until the day of the draft because 294 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: you just don't know, and there's two weeks out. Seems 295 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: like it's close. It's an eternity in terms of information gathering. 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: What are people missing on Allen? I guess externally because 297 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about Allen that potentially he goes number one overall. 298 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I was at the NFL Owners meetings in Orlando, Florida, 299 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: and you got the feel from a lot of NFL 300 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: personnel executives and guys who watched the game inside and 301 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: out that hey, this guy has an incredible ceiling that 302 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: did Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's that's really it. Like 303 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: the other ones. Like I guess, if you ask people 304 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,239 Speaker 1: who's the most pop maybe they like the most polished, 305 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Like the guy who if you want to, I won't say, well, 306 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: maybe i'd say relatively play it's safe, you know, And 307 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, you want to get a guy who can 308 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: play in the league for a long time. Now, he 309 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: may never go to a Pro Bowl, but he's probably 310 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: not going to peat down his leg right. He's probably 311 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: not going to be a guy who you don't pick 312 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: up the fifth year option on. Then I think it's donald. 313 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: If you're not trying to hit a double, if you're 314 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: trying to hit a Grand Slam, if you're trying to 315 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: find a Brett Farve tight, well, this chip fits the mode. 316 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Now he may he may not. You know, he could 317 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: be Jake Locker, you know. I mean that it's not 318 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: out of the question. There's a lot of projecting involved. 319 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: But if you're looking for a guy who could you know, potentially, 320 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: if he puts it all together, if the accuracy comes together, 321 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: he fixes a few things could jump off the screen, 322 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: that's him. But are you a gambler? Aren't you? And 323 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: what makes sense for your program? And it's gonna be 324 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Dorsey's call. It's not gonna be you Jackson's call. It's 325 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: not gonna be you know. I mean, the owner will 326 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: absolutely be involved. But at the end of the day, 327 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be John Dorsey's call. He's 328 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna keep it very close to the vest, probably just 329 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: him in the owner. And does he do what he 330 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: did a year ago in Kansas City where Dorsey was 331 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: very involved with them, ultimately making a big trade to 332 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: go up and get Patrick Mahomes big arm, you know, 333 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: all that same gun slinger stuff, just you know, eleven 334 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: months ago. At one point, does the price become too 335 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: steep for Buffalo to come up to number two? Because 336 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: you mentioned them before and a lot of people have 337 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: talked about their draft capital, and sure enough, they do 338 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of draft capital. Jason, what when you're 339 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: just looking at number twelve and I believe what is 340 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: the twenty one or twenty two? Overall? That's not gonna 341 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: get you to two? And is it three? Number ones? 342 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Is it a couple of two? Is an additional three? 343 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: At what point does it become two? Price? See for 344 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Brandon being and anybody to come up to that number 345 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: two spots? If the Giants are really gonna sell out 346 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: of there, well, the question is do I have to 347 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: go to two? You're talking to two? Or and really right, 348 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 1: now is the dead spell, right, Don't believe a lot 349 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: of what you see Right now, everyone's in bunker mode. 350 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: All these teams are having their you know, eight hours 351 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: a day meeting on position groups and setting their master boards, 352 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: and they're entertaining these kids on trips, and everybody's in 353 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: sort of their own private Idaho. And then when that 354 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: process ends by next weekend, all the Gophers pop out 355 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: of their holes and they know what their boards look like, 356 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: and they start trying to figure out everybody else's boards 357 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: look like, you know what I mean? And if there 358 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: guy's there for you and this guy's there for us, 359 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: maybe that's a match. And that's when you start finding 360 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: out where the preferences are because you have to tip 361 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: your hand a little bit if you're looking to move 362 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: up or down or whatever. There's you know, communication lines 363 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: are open right now. What's the best case scenario do 364 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: you think for the Jets? If you're a fan of 365 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: this team, what do you want to happen up top before? 366 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Were you're on the clock at three? Look if the 367 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Browns take a quarterback and they're going to and let's 368 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: say that I would be rooting for the Giants to 369 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: stay there. And take a non quarterback, because now my 370 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: organization is going to have three of the supposed top 371 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: four there. Then they're going to be in a position 372 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: to I mean, maybe even move back a pick or two. 373 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. I mean, I guess it depends 374 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: how far down the rabbit hole you want to get. 375 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: But the more quarterbacks on the board, I would suggest, 376 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: the better for them, the less likely it is that 377 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: they took Guy A or Guy B. But this draft 378 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: is I mean, this is not like the r G 379 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: three Luck draft. You know, it's not even like the 380 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: wentz Goff draft, where maybe you have them in some 381 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: order or the other. Um. And look, a lot of 382 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: evaluators who I'm type with weren't real high on golf. 383 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: But he obviously played very well for McVey last year. 384 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: But you know, you kind of knew who the first 385 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: two were like when I talked to people with teams 386 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: who aren't drafting quarterbacks, at least not draft them in 387 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the first round. But you're still evaluating him. But he 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: still had scouts in all these games. And I say, 389 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: give me your quarterbacks one through five. No one gives 390 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: them to me in the same order. No, And it's 391 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: not like, Okay, well, one and four and five roys 392 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: the same, but two and three or flipped Like there's 393 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: people who adamantly believe that Mason Rudolph is the third 394 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: best quarterback in this draft, and there's others who say 395 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't take him in the third round. I don't 396 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: know that there's any sort of true consensus, at least 397 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to clean them. Do you think 398 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: there's any kind of uh, when you're looking at a 399 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: system fit. Jeremy Bates taken over now is offensive coordinator, 400 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: had tremendous success last year with Josh McCown. You mentioned 401 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: McCown before. Uh, he's a guy who obviously he's gonna 402 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: want to compete be the number one guy an opening day, 403 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: but he's also gonna share his knowledge with whoever is 404 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: in his room with him. Do you look at any 405 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: of these guys and say, well, they'd be a good 406 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: fit with the Jets. I don't mean. There's so much 407 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: trade position, and the league changes so much every three years. 408 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can make that decision 409 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: about who fits what our coordinators and schemers and play 410 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: callers do best. Right now? You know, I think it's 411 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: got to be who do we think has the best 412 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: chance to succeed at a high level for a long time, 413 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: and then what do we have to do to help 414 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: them get there? And if that means tweaking this and 415 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: altering that, then I think it's about how you incubate 416 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and develop a quarterback, you know, So, I mean, do 417 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: you want to absolutely put a square peg in a 418 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: round hole? I mean, like, should you draft Lamar Jackson 419 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: if you have no intentions of having a moving pocket boots, 420 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: you know, waggles, you know, design runs for a quarterback? 421 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Well no, but that's you know, an extreme. I mean, 422 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: if you are philosophically opposed to that, then he's not 423 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: your guy. But it's usually not that cut or dry, 424 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: and and the margins are usually slimmers. So I don't 425 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: know how much you focus that into it. Obviously you're 426 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: talking to your coach. The coaches are involved in the decision. 427 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: They're not making the final call. But you know, as 428 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: you're putting these guys on the board, and as you're 429 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: you're shredding through these quarterbacks on film and through the 430 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: scout standing up and giving their reports, you're gonna ask Jeremy, 431 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: you know where do you where do you see? You know? 432 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: What does he do that you think is already ready? 433 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: What would you have to massize? How? You know what? 434 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how how do we get there? I don't 435 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: know how much that swings depending he mentioned the Giants 436 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: and the magnitude of that decision in the domino effect 437 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: that could affect the Jets. And number three, just for 438 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: fans that don't know, how much of a card do 439 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: the Giants hold there at number two? Well, I mean 440 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: I think it's significant. I mean, especially if Allen goes 441 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: one and he's not everybody's cup of tea, then they're 442 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: sitting in the cat bird seat. And if they don't 443 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: want to draft a quarterback, depending on how wild and 444 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: WOOI gets, I mean, if you're the Jets and there's 445 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: one of these last three remaining who you absolutely is 446 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: your guy five thousand percent and he's the one, do 447 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: you move up a spot just you know what you mean, 448 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: to make sure you don't get lead frog? And then 449 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: could Denver conceivably do that too? Yeah, and we already 450 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: know buffaloes loaded for bear and I would not rule 451 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: out the Patriots making multiple leaps if absolutely necessary, Do 452 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: I think it's going to two. No, but it's at 453 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: least a feather and gentleman's cap. You know, potentially, as 454 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: he's drumming up more and more value for it, could 455 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Arizona try to get from fifteen to two. Yeah, And 456 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: I would say, unless they're in love with Jackson or Rudolph, 457 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: they better. So I think it's gonna be fairly interesting, 458 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and I think gentlemen will have a fair amount of 459 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: options to sort through. Have any of these guys really 460 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: helped themselves or hurt themselves throughout the off season process 461 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: of going through the pro days of the draft is 462 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: it's I do. I've actually talked to some people about 463 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: that this week. It just came up in conversations. I 464 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: think Mayfield has helped himself. You know, he picked a 465 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: low key agent who wasn't gonna go to overtly with 466 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: the we're cleaning up his image campaign. But it's just 467 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: kind of happened organically. There's been no incidents with him. 468 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: He's handled himself well in interviews. I mean, I guess 469 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: there's this fake Brown's thing about the first class ticket 470 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, I mean, whatever the hell that is. But 471 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean the kid has by all accounts interviewed. Well, 472 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, hasn't say anything crazy to any owners. I 473 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: think he's played this well, Lamar Jackson. I think Frankly 474 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: could have probably benefited from an experienced agent to help 475 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: guide him. Listen, you're gonna have your mock draft on 476 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: the Thursday, the morning of the draft in a couple 477 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: of weeks, so I'm not gonna hold you to it. 478 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: But the possibilities right now, do you potentially see this 479 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: a six quarterback first round? Yeah, if you think Jackson 480 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: and Rudolph, I do. And I know those Again, there's 481 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: there's people who would bet me. You know, people in 482 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the scouting community and you know, agents involved with some 483 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks and people you know whose livelihood during 484 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: the line. Any number of them would bet me several 485 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars at that kids doesn't go in the first round. 486 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: I just look at supplying demand. I look at the 487 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: factors of what Cousins just got and where the quarterback 488 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: money is going. And you know, I'm paying us while 489 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars for nothing, I'm paying Mike Glennon 490 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars for ten months. He can't even see 491 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: ten months. He lost his job in October, so they 492 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: signed him in what March, signed him in March. By October, 493 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: he's my backup and he's gonna make nineteen million dollars 494 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: from me by next March, and then he's gonna go 495 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: somewhere else and get paid again. Sam Bradford, who's missed 496 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: more games and he's played the last six years, gets 497 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: twenty million. It's tough. So this is it. This is 498 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: the way to do it. And yeah, I think when 499 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: you look at teams at the back end who he's 500 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: somebody's somebody trade from two back on the one to 501 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: get one, you know, the Paxton Lynch scenario. Then you've 502 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: got the New England's who if they don't trade up, 503 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: I certainly think they're snatching one at the end of 504 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: the first round with those two picks. Absolutely five, I 505 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: think five in the first fifteen or sixteen and then 506 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: that if that's the case, I have a hard time thing. 507 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: Can sixteen more slots go by without somebody trying to 508 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: get root off before having to deal with another potential 509 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: trade or somebody else getting him at the top of 510 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: a round two. I mean, if Dorsey takes his quarterback 511 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: at one, then that pick thirty three is obviously open 512 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: for business. So I think it's six who is dropping 513 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: of this list? S Kuon Barkley, Quentin Nelson, Bradley Chob 514 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: make a Fitzpatrick Denze Award because if the quarterback run 515 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: goes early, one or two of those guys could be 516 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: slipping too. Is a somewhat surprising numbers. I would say, 517 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that Barkley or Chubb gets past four 518 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: if he stays there, one of those two even if 519 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: the Giants trade out, one of those two are going 520 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: by four, and whoever is not going by four is 521 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: going at six. So I can't call that a drop. 522 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Nelson doesn't get past the Bears. His offensive line coaches. 523 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: Now the Bears offer line coach the Notre Dame proximity, 524 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: the need on the offensive line. That kid is, you know, 525 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: people for around potential Hall of Famer with me left 526 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: and right in the scouting community. So Josey deserved to 527 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: go one, two or three. Yeah, but he's not getting 528 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: passed eight. So I think they're all still going in 529 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the top ten and final one for me, You've been 530 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: doing this for a long time. Is this one of 531 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: the more exciting times of the year for you and 532 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: your business covering this talking to the scouts, the personnel 533 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: guys here as we go, Uh, you know, less than 534 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: two weeks before the draft and uh, you know, just 535 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: speaking from a Jets fans perspective, they're like darn lies 536 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: in the draft in New York this time because the 537 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: Jet I love it. I loved it in New York 538 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: and three of this year Jason, the Giants and two. 539 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: You know, they look it's it's a business, as you 540 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: guys know in the NFL, and they've they've the last 541 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: eight years or so, however long it's been within five years, 542 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: eight years, I don't know if it's just been there 543 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: since they started moving it around. They obviously comes a 544 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: week long event in those cities as well, and you've 545 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: got team's bidding on the draft. Now it's a monumental event. 546 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: And some people would say it's the second biggest day 547 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL calendar to the Super Bowl. And I 548 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: don't know that I would argue with them, just because 549 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: it's a three seven cottage industry. You guys know, within 550 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: an hour of the first round ending this year, somebody, 551 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: and more than one somebody will have their first round 552 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: mock draft already up, and there'll be somebody who, as 553 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: ridiculous as that concept is, there'll be a whole bunch 554 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: of people who click on it. So the interest is 555 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: like at a fevered pitch. So yeah, I enjoyed this 556 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: time of year, but honestly, it's like a kid at 557 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: Christmas where we're two weeks out and obviously within a 558 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: fifty two week calendar, like we're really close to Christmas, 559 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: but those two weeks felt like an attorney right. It 560 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: was like one more week of like school, and then 561 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, then we're finally maybe really getting close, depending 562 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: on what day Christmas film. And then you know, when 563 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: you're a couple of days out and now you're like 564 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: close to Christmas Eve, then isn't adrenaline rush and you're 565 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: rocking the rolling right now? There's so much bologna out there, 566 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: there's so much bs, there's so much just trying to 567 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: fill the gap and burn off these fourteen days until 568 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: we get there that I really don't like this part. 569 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: You know, the visits are almost over and the pro 570 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: days are over and nothing's really happening, but people, you know, 571 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: you've got to keep feeding the beast. Once we get 572 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: to the Monday before the draft, and teams start talking 573 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: to teams, and trades start coming into focus, and you know, 574 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: people in the no start getting a sense of at 575 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: least which way certain teams might be leaning. You know, 576 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: then that's when I you know, for me, it really 577 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: starts rocking and rolling, and and you know, don't be 578 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: a couple of trades or two that maybe even one 579 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: that happens well before the draft, at least a day 580 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: or two before the draft. That will, you know, make 581 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: everybody take their mock drafts and rolling up the film 582 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: in the trash because I want that just changed everything. 583 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: And then you guys, know what's one pick doesn't go 584 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: the way you thought it was gonna go, it has 585 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: a ripple effect to you know, fifteen other picks. So 586 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: it's become a huge part of the NFL, and it's 587 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: dripped on the country. I mean, they credential twelve people, 588 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: twelve hundred medium members for the combin It's gonna be 589 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: the three networks or broadcasting the draft. I mean, just 590 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: think about that. But there's gonna be more, be more 591 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: number broadcasting the draft and not broadcasting the draft albost 592 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so yeah, it's a big deal at Jason 593 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: lockafora you have to follow him on Twitter because he's 594 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of nuggets, a lot of information out there, 595 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: and he won't have his mock draft up until Christmas morning, 596 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: that is third Thursday, April. We appreciate your time, always 597 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: great catching up my play. You guys have a good one. 598 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. Christmas Day Greens. Jason lackaf is talking about 599 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, and I think for Jets Nation they've been 600 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: awaiting to open that gift under the tree. Who's it 601 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna be? Can't get here soon enough, But we got 602 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of time before that, and the Jets 603 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: are gonna do their due diligence up to that point 604 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: with their pre draft visits, their private workouts. Except here 605 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: and I finally put together that big board and we 606 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: won't have to wait too long once we get to 607 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: draft night because of Cleveland, the Giants, then the New 608 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: York Jets. Who do you think Jets fans want right now? 609 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: I no idea. I mean that's something we talked about 610 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: on the podcast. I feel like the people who follow 611 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: me when I get notifications, I believe the Baker train 612 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: is in full effect. I think there's a lot of 613 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: people on Baker Mayfield tracks because here's a guy who's 614 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: suproductive in college. He's a competitor. People like his Moxie's 615 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: the kind of guy says, hey, get on my shoulders 616 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: and I'll carry I don't care I'm six ft one, 617 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: I'll take everybody with me. And I think a lot 618 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: of people grew up here Jets fans considering themselves underdogs, 619 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: blue collars, so uh, they really like that in Baker Mayfield. 620 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: With that being said, I think that there has been 621 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: all so an appreciation for a guy like Josh Rosen, 622 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: who you if you watch him on film, what tremendous 623 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: mechanics he has. He looks like he was born to 624 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: play quarterback and throw the football. But then you go 625 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: back and you start thinking about Sam Donald and Josh Allen. 626 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I think both of those guys have loads of potential. Well, 627 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: we could sit here and talk about this all day, 628 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: but the fact of the matter is that we don't know. 629 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: The teams don't know. We're a couple of weeks away, 630 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: and the only time that we will know is when 631 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell on April walks up to the podium in Arlington, Texas, 632 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: and speaks the words with the third overall pick the 633 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: New York Jets select, you know. And what lacan Forest 634 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: said there was very interesting too, is that the Jets 635 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: struck early on March seventeenth to put them in good position, 636 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: moving up from six to three overall. And we talked 637 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: about that trade at nauseum, but there could be other 638 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: trades that week in the draft. Here in a couple 639 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: of days, that Monday before the draft, that Tuesday before 640 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: the draft, I wouldn't anticipate a trade or two even 641 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: before we get there. The Jets did strike at a 642 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: good time on March seventeen, because Jason lock For wrote 643 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: an article about this. To Jets and the Colts both 644 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: won that trade because it worked out for both sides, 645 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: and the Jets traded three second round picks to move 646 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: up three spots. Let's see, let's see, let's see who 647 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: the Jets get. But the Colts could come out of 648 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: this with there. He got their quarterback. We'll see what 649 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: how his health is. But they were very confident. They 650 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: sounded very confident in Adnnapolis that he's gonna come back 651 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be the Andrew lock of old. But 652 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: they still could come out of this with they four 653 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: mentioned se Kuon Barkley or perhaps the top pass rushing 654 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: prospect in Bradley Chaw about it and see State, or 655 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 1: maybe they addressed the offensive line Quentin Nelson. And if 656 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: you get one of those guys, pretty happy because you're 657 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: probably gonna draft them anyway if you were three. But 658 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: with that being said, we talked about this a lot. 659 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: That was the right move for the Jets, movement from 660 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: six to number three. You'll never be able to convince 661 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: me otherwise I would echo those sentiments, especially keeping the 662 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen first round pick in house. And if 663 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: there's a run at quarterbacks early, the cults are basically 664 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: ensuring themselves of someone like Bradley Chubb, say Kwan Barkley, 665 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Quintin Nelson being there at six. And to be quite honest, 666 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: that run of quarterbacks probably got sparks because of that trade, 667 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: because if you're a team looking to trade up, you 668 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: got pigeonholed by Mike mccagnet because there's one spot that 669 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: you're going to and it's number two. And so I 670 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 1: think that there's obviously a lot of options here. But hey, again, 671 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: we're a couple of weeks away. But the question is 672 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: will the Jets have the look of the Irish on April? Well, 673 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: because st Patrick staying I like it. I think that 674 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: I think it's fair and I didn't think it's too 675 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: much of a stay. I'm just getting back to one 676 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: of the Lock and Forest points is that I think 677 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: people are missing this externally, is that Josh Allen is 678 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: really thought of highly in league circles. That's one of 679 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: the key points that you gotta take away from this podcast. 680 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: Lacking fora who has a lot of sources within the league. 681 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: He talks to NFL personnel guys and scouts all the time. 682 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: Josh Allen has thought very, very highly because a tremendous 683 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: ceiling and listen, I know about his completion percentage, but 684 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: he's an awesome thrower to football. He's also very athletic. 685 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: So is somebody's gonna take him early? Couldn't be as 686 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: early as one or two. No walking forth thanks as 687 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: of today, you want to be surprised at all Brown's 688 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: roll that way with the kids with the Wyoming Cowboy. 689 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: If Josh Allen goes one, I think that the Giants 690 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: stay put because and now you go Sam Donald there 691 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: Green's yes, I do. And then if the Jets do 692 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: indeed take a quarter back at three, you think it 693 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: would ultimately in your scenario, if you think, if looking 694 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: forward is right, Brons go Allen Greenes thinks that they've 695 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: Gettleman first year GM with the Giants, we'll go Sam Donald. 696 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: And then ultimately, if the Jets take from that top 697 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: quartet that a lot of people are talking about, you 698 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: think it ultimately could come down to Baker Mayfield or 699 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Correct, Well, we got time to discuss that, 700 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: but we don't have any more time. We're gonna look 701 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: more into that. But again, keep your eyes open because 702 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: if you haven't looked already, there's a Sam Donald podcast up, 703 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield all to come on the Official 704 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: Jets podcast, and then one more before April, we're gonna 705 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: wrap things up and draft again Christmas Eve in April. 706 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: It's almost here.