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Speaker 1: Okay, we saw the debut today Travis Hunter. Ojo saw

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Speaker 1: action on both sides of the football in his preseason

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Speaker 1: debut the Jags versus the Steelers. On offense, he had

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Speaker 1: eleven snaps, two receptions nine yards. On defense, he had

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Speaker 1: eight snaps with zero targets.

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Speaker 2: Ojo, I might have to.

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Speaker 1: Get a couple of more jobs like you because the

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Speaker 1: way they got these games spread out and how you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to pay Dawn there, you basically got to

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Speaker 1: pay to watch each individual game, Ojosen.

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Speaker 3: You know what you can do. You can use YouTube TV.

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Speaker 3: You can use YouTube TV where you get most of

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Speaker 3: the games. And also I have an NFL app on

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Speaker 3: my phone, so the NFL app allows you to be

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Speaker 3: able to go back and forth through some of the

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Speaker 3: games you want to. You can't see them all at

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Speaker 3: the same time, but just the preseason, it's just the preseason,

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Speaker 3: so it's kind of difficult to be able to watch

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Speaker 2: They are so because most of most of them are

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Speaker 3: But once once the regular season gets in gets in,

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Speaker 3: you know you'll be able to watch multiple at one time,

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Speaker 3: especially the one o'clock games obviously the four thirty games

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Speaker 1: Right, he did have eleven snaps, two receptions for nine yards.

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Speaker 1: Uh nothingdeed, nothing significant. He gave up leverage on one play.

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Speaker 1: He'll learn these guys are really good. You Hey, if

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Speaker 1: those guys. You got to maintain your your laying the responsibility, integrity.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, it was it was you know,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what you know, we saw

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Speaker 1: what we saw. What wasn't you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: if I mean, how do we rate it? He caught

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Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing is it's kind of it's

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Speaker 3: On the two pass that he get he did he

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Speaker 3: did catch. I call it. I always call it that

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, remember Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison always having

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Speaker 3: dbs in college didn't do. They would over commit so

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Speaker 3: much he'd be be able to spin out the back door.

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Speaker 3: He'd be able to the back door. But now now

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Speaker 3: They come to balance right away and they make the tackle.

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Speaker 3: So he tried to and.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be careful with that.

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Speaker 2: The big guys trailing.

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Speaker 2: Because what happened when they see that ball thrown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're coming, but but this is the thing you

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Speaker 3: most of the time they're not out of control, so

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Speaker 3: they were under control. Listen, you you you split the

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Speaker 3: always hit the target, so I mean outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you keep your off and you don't let him

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so and that that that's it. That's it here

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Speaker 1: Now I got my inside, I got my steal farm,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that those are things that you know as

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Speaker 1: Like I said, he just had that one, that one

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Speaker 3: And I thought I thought, obviously the hype around Travis

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Speaker 3: They just they didn't feature him. Who first played the game,

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Speaker 1: Me personally, I think he's gonna spend more time on

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Speaker 1: But I do think you'll probably get a lot more.

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Speaker 1: Is, oh, Joe, I want to you know, you try

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited for him.

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Speaker 2: Man mixed.

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Speaker 1: But the most outstanding thing in the game happened when

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Speaker 1: Jaguars kicker Cam Little nailed a seventy yard field goal

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Speaker 2: Now it's a lot different.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot different kicking outside than it is inside

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult. I don't think people understand how far

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Speaker 1: Steelers didn't even put anybody back. That was my point.

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Speaker 3: I don't know Ash is there you have. You have

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Speaker 3: But they look like them and planning for ten plus years.

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Speaker 3: They look like veterans. The pocket presence, the relaxedness under

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Speaker 1: The difference is now, Oho, these guys come in they've

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they have them in the high school. Oh Joe.

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Speaker 3: They looked a part. But cam Mood not only did

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Speaker 3: They're polished, that's all, Liz. You're rookie who's been prepared

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Hell, now you better not if you if you go one,

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Speaker 1: You better take that check down, yeah, hey, one two three?

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Speaker 3: He'll he'll be on He'll be on special teams, whether

440
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Speaker 3: it be field goal, whether it be ma be kick off?

441
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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, return?

442
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: Can you be can you be a jammer? Can you

443
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Speaker 2: be a gunner? Yeah?

444
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 3: Hm?

445
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Speaker 1: Can you be on the front line? Can you be

446
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Speaker 1: a L one two, three, four five? On the front line?

447
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 1: You definitely gonna be. Okay, kickoff obviously?

448
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 2: Yeah? He is it me?

449
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Or does it seem like kickoff is much more much

450
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: easier as as as opposed to how it was during

451
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Speaker 3: our day. You know you had the wedge buster, you

452
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Speaker 3: had the Yeah.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't.

454
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: They don't really want those type of collisions, so they don't.

455
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: If you see, they're not letting you get that kind

456
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Speaker 1: of running start. It's different, it's not it's I mean,

457
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Speaker 1: I think Hester said he'd have probably more return touchdowns

458
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: had they had it in like that. So it's been

459
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Speaker 1: interesting to see what would have happened, but the advance.

460
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't have a problem with Joe.

461
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes like it's different, it's very different. It's

462
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: very different. Uh, the guy that you really like in

463
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Speaker 1: the first round, the Bucks selected a Mecca a uh

464
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Speaker 1: booka Uh, you like him, you like McMillan, Carolina, and

465
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: they both are good. Like I think whether the Golden

466
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: go in the first round or the second rob God okay,

467
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Miller.

468
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: The second round ran for two.

469
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Speaker 2: First number twenty three.

470
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: Then they had jayde Higgins went in the second round,

471
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Speaker 1: Luther Burton the third winn the second round, Trey Harris

472
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: went in the second round, and Jack Beach wit in

473
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Speaker 1: the second round.

474
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Speaker 2: So they were in the first two rounds.

475
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Speaker 1: There were seven receivers that went in the first the

476
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Speaker 1: first two rounds.

477
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Speaker 3: Who do who do you expect to have the biggest

478
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Speaker 3: Probably honestly out of everyone you just named, I know

479
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 3: Matt Matthew Golden is good. He's phenomenal. Obviously, they do

480
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: have Dubbs, they have Jaydan Reid, so I don't think

481
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: he will get the number of targets necessary to be

482
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Speaker 3: able to showcase REDB. There's so many of them over there.

483
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: I think he will contribute. But I really believe T

484
00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 3: mac McMillan over there with the panther yeoh, and with

485
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 3: with what he's able to do and would he showed

486
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: very small sample size. Honestly, it's been one preseason game.

487
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: But again I've been high on the pants. I think

488
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 3: T is going to be the one to show showcase

489
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 3: his ability and what he can do. It's a mismatch

490
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: every time they leave in one on one. He's very tall,

491
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 3: he can run after the catch, and the fifty fifty

492
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Speaker 3: ball turn into eighty twenty when when it is him.

493
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Speaker 3: So I'm excited for him. He's the one I'm highest

494
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Speaker 3: on and hoping that not just him, but collectively as

495
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: a group offensively as a receiving corps. I think they

496
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: make the difference in Bryce Young taking the next step

497
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: in his career.

498
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Speaker 2: I agree, I think him.

499
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Speaker 1: I like uh Ibuka also for the simple fact how

500
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: healthy is Chris Well?

501
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: God would be his return is he only?

502
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: Is he gonna I don't think he's gonna pu up.

503
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: But so it's gonna be interesting to see how he

504
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: used because you know, we know Baker can throw it.

505
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: We hey, you got missed consistency on one side. Evans,

506
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and then so Booker could really have a

507
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: huge year. But I but I but I like mc

508
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: millan also, long angular guy, what he's like sixty three

509
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: six four, make tough contested catches. He's good run after

510
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: the catch. Yeah, I mean I think these good. I

511
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: thank Matthew Golden. I mean, you look you okay, Romeo Dobbs,

512
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned Kristin Watson, you mentioned Reid. They got a lot,

513
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: They got a lot of receivers. They don't really have

514
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: a guy that like, Okay, this is the guy that

515
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you gotta worry about. You kind of got to worry

516
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: about them all because at any given moment, because you know,

517
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: it might be Dobbs weeks one week and it'll be

518
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Speaker 1: Christian Watson.

519
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: Watson's biggest thing.

520
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: Is yeah he he gonna put him up and put

521
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 3: him down. Hell, but the goddamn damn Packer's got a

522
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: foot by one team. Un they got about one team. Dove, Watson,

523
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 3: Reid can fly go to fly man stopped playing.

524
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I I think McMillan and Abuka would have

525
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: the biggest but I'm not going to sleep on Uh.

526
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: You know, Luther Burton, a lot of people thought he'd

527
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: be a first round draft pick receiver out of Missouri. Uh,

528
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: he go, he goes to the Bears. They got DJ Moore,

529
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: they got Roma Doomsay. Uh, they drafted a tight end

530
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: in the first round. They still have col Cobbett, They've

531
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: upgraded their offensive line they should be and they got

532
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: Detroit so old offensive coordinator as the head coach. Creativity, Yeah,

533
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: so they should definitely be better offensively. And if they are

534
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: better offensively, well big number because if you look at Detroit,

535
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: you look at Jamison Williams had had a phenomenal season.

536
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: You look at I'm Brown, Oh we had that big season.

537
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is Almond Ross Saint Brown. He's

538
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: one of the top five receivers depending on how you

539
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: put him in the order in the NFL. Well, I

540
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 3: really think it didn't matter who was calling the goddamn

541
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: plays because he's so good at just route running in general,

542
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: he's a polished one. You know, I don't have to

543
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 3: scheme you open. He's one of those where officer coordinators

544
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: in your head coach. You know what, I could sleep

545
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: at night because I ain't got to worry about that one.

546
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 3: It don't matter who we plan. I don't have to

547
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: worry about him. I know what he can do. So

548
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: you add what he can do in his skill set

549
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 3: and his DNA and then you put that with the

550
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: creativity that Ben Johnson has last year, you get magic.

551
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: You get magic. And I don't know if there's anyone

552
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 3: like that, but that type of skill set similar to

553
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: amm Ross Saint Brown on the Bears. But DJ Moore

554
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: is damn good. He's not that far behind.

555
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: He's not. He's he doesn't have that short.

556
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Area of quickness like that. No, no, no, no, that's not

557
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: That's not what he is. He's can't he play the spot? Yeah,

558
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: but he's an outside the number he and Roman Dunes

559
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: is outside the number type of guys, right, so right.

560
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: The good thing about it is is Ben Johnson is

561
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: going to understand and know his player strengths and put

562
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: them in position to be able to make those plays

563
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: and not allow them to be exposed in whatever that

564
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: we can see is that we can't see watching from home.

565
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 3: We don't know it.

566
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: They know it.

567
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: And Justin Field's preseason debut against the Packers, Field was

568
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: ultra efficient. He was three or four pass and forty

569
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: two yards, ran the ball twice for fourteen yards, and

570
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't take a single sack. Fields orchestrated a sharp opening

571
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: drive against the Packers starting defense, capping it off with

572
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: a thirteen yard rushing touchdown. This set the tone for

573
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: an excellent preseason open for Aaron Glenn's squad. Does Field

574
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: remaining calm composed in the control pocket. What do you think, Ojoe,

575
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: do you think did you like what you saw from him?

576
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely?

577
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: Listen, we saw we saw slashes of brilliance when he

578
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: was with the Bears. We saw flashes of what he

579
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: can do when he's with the Pittsburgh Steelers. So what

580
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: we saw tonight is what we expected from Fields. It's

581
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: all about him just being consistent and being able to

582
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: do it week two week. He's always wanted his opportunity

583
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: to be a starting quarterback. I think he wasn't dealt

584
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: a fair deal in Chicago because when you look at

585
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears in that organization and the way they

586
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 3: conducted and handle quarterbacks throughout the years, it hasn't been

587
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 3: great at all. It hasn't been great at all. It

588
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: just hasn't. Now things are a little different, got Ben Johnson,

589
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: the or Kata Williams. Things are different the way they're

590
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: running the system. Obviously, in Pittsburgh, Russ was promised the

591
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: starting job Ruskin's hurst. Justin Field comes in, he plays phenomenal,

592
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: he plays phenomenal. But obviously, once Ruski is healthy, Russ,

593
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: I mean justin Field is bench boom, damn it can

594
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: I just get opportunity. Can I get an opportunity to

595
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 3: shine and show what I can do at the quarterback position?

596
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: I can be quarterback number one if you put me

597
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: in a situation that is advantageous for me and my

598
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: skill set. Now that in New York with a players

599
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: coach that played the game and understands exactly what you

600
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: can and can do, and can it do what he

601
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: needs to do to make sure you're successful. You got

602
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: Garret Wilson. I don't know who, and I can't remember

603
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: his last name. I meant to write it down. I

604
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: don't know if it was a fullback that kept making

605
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: those plays tonight or tight end. I think he wore

606
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: forty seven. I think it was wearing forty seven. Hey,

607
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: young bull popped out on film. He popped out on

608
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: film to the point where, well, I don't know who

609
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: this is, but I guarantee you he's gonna have a

610
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: starting job. I don't know if it was a fullback

611
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: or a tight end, but he was balling.

612
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: Just had four hundred and three yards total yards. Green

613
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Bay had two turnovers. Time of possession was thirty eight

614
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: to forty one Jets twenty one nineteen first downs was

615
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: twenty one to twelve in favor of the Jets. Like

616
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: I said, I think his name is Jay too. Fairly,

617
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: you made a team.

618
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: He did.

619
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Uh two sacks and he had a fumble recovery for

620
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown.

621
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be all right.

622
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that's that's the key for him.

623
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: The Jets showed that, showed justin feels that they wanted it.

624
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: They gave a two year deal. They put him, he's

625
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: the starter. They do have ty Rod to be his backup.

626
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: But that's what he wanted. That's why he didn't go

627
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. He said, Now y'all already sure what

628
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: y'all want, y'all already did. How y'all gonna do Pittsburgh.

629
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do me, Dirney twice.

630
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: Listen, Pittsburgh is the situation where there's a young lady

631
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: that wants you. She wants you, she doesn't want nobody

632
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: else to have you, so she put you in the

633
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: friend zone until the dude she really won't get his

634
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: act together. Okay, now I'm gonna put you off the

635
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: on the bench. Now, I'm I'm gonna go deal with Russ.

636
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 3: That's whatever. That's the situation last year, So you get smart.

637
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: That ain't the situation. That's ideal for me, and where

638
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: I want to go. New York is perfect for him.

639
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: He got somebody that actually wants him. When you have

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: somebody actually wants you, you're able to play freely understanding, Okay,

641
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: have to look over my shoulder. I don't have the

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: pressure of having to do everything perfect and do everything right.

643
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: I can just play.

644
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Football, That's the thing.

645
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: And I think ag you know they moved on from

646
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers basically for Justin Fields.

647
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, m hm. But he made it easy for him.

648
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: Rogers made it easy.

649
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: You have someone like ag ag ain't playing with that.

650
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I'm ready. I don't know if

651
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm buying in. I don't know if I'm be there

652
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: for training camp. I don't know if I want to

653
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: take it down. Man, ag Ain't got time for that.

654
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to change the entire culture. I need players

655
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: that are boarding. Whether you've been playing five years or

656
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: we've been playing twenty I need you on the same

657
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: page to me, and he just wasn't.

658
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: Only if you're a relative, do you have tolerance for

659
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: bs as.

660
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,239
Speaker 3: A person's age yeah.

661
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: You know, you you a if that person not related

662
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: to you know, people like yeah, man, you know old people,

663
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: and you know, look at this juncture, AG coming in

664
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: as a new coach, he needs everybody to be bought in.

665
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Aaron being as great as he is and being who

666
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: he is, he can easily sway a locker room. So

667
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: I think and for AG looking at it, like for

668
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: me to make sure I still have control of this

669
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: locker room, let's just move on, because I'm not so

670
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: sure if Aaron did was there was there was something

671
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that did AG want to hear Aaron say something? Unless

672
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Aaron came with that thing, turning back flips like yes, sir,

673
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: let's let's go a g I'm ready, Unless he got that,

674
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: they probably was gonna move on anyway, Oh Joe, they

675
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: probably gonna move on. Yeah, and uh, but hopefully Justin

676
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: can seize this opportunity, because this is a opportunity. This

677
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: might be the best opportunity because you know, when he

678
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: went to Chicago, you know he's gonna be the starter.

679
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: They just didn't have the pieces around him. And I

680
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know if that system was conducive and the coach

681
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: was conducive. Now he has another defensive minded head coach,

682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: but I think AG has an offensive guy that can

683
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: put Justin Field's in.

684
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: Position to be and listen, you would do. Let's let's

685
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: understand what Justin Field has at his disposal. Over there

686
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: with the Jetswell, you got Breist Hall, you got brother

687
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: brother Allen all who looks like who looks like Derrick Henry?

688
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: Who looks the part? I mean, I'm not saying he's

689
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry. I'm just saying they have a one two

690
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: punch of the running back position. We have one of

691
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: top ten receivers in the NFL, depending on where you

692
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: slay the Matt, depending on where you want him Att

693
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: and Garrett Wilson, Well, god, damn, who's the number two?

694
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: Who a chat? Who's the number two? A receiver? A

695
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: man with the Jets? It's slipping my mind.

696
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: Damn you think I mean? He look?

697
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: Uh?

698
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 2: Alan Lazar still there? Alan?

699
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, Josh Reynolds. You remember Josh Rentlds. I think

700
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: he played for the he played for the Rams. I

701
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: think he was in like Tennessee. So was he or

702
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: was he or was he in uh Detroit? I'm almost

703
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 1: certain he was at the Rams, so hold on Alan

704
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: Lazard and Josh Reynolds. So that's the that's the two

705
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: and the three. And Gary was that he was trying

706
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: to find out. We know Gary Wilson that we're trying

707
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: to find the other receivers. But that is Josh Reynolds

708
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: that he's with the Rams. I think he's with Tennessee

709
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: or was it a liar?

710
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, he with the Broncos. You like you think

711
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: is the right fit for the Jabs. Absolutely listen.

712
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: You need a player like that that can deal with

713
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: that media. Forget the house, forget the football stuff. Give

714
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: me somebody with a mindset and the mentality that can

715
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: deal with all the bullshit and the stereotypes that come

716
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: along with being the head coach in the market of

717
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: that magnitude. Once you get something that's ready for that, okay,

718
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 3: now I can work on everything else. I can work

719
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: from the top on down. And Ag is the right

720
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: player for that.

721
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: And he played in New York, so he definitely Listen.

722
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 3: One thing about it. Even though he played in New York.

723
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: You understand how those news papers are. You ain't getting

724
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: no cut either. We ain't give me your no break either.

725
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: The things ain't going right. We're gonna hop on YouTube.

726
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: But hey, the newsplayer, the newspaper outlets and media outlets

727
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: are ruthless and I don't know who creates them. Of

728
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: the headlines sometimes, boll they so creative.

729
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: That's what they say. If you can make it in

730
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: New York, make.

731
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: It anywhere, make it anywhere. Hey, just sitting here talking

732
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: about all this quarterback play man, it just reminded me

733
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: of my day man at beachid Man. Mind me my

734
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: days at beachid Man. You know I was one of

735
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: the best in the state. Huh huh, give me. I

736
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 3: wanted the best in the state.

737
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: Know you want the best delibery No, no, no, no in the state.

738
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: About in the world, I was one of the best

739
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: in the world. I remember. You know it's funny for

740
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: me for me to play quarterback at Miami b Senior

741
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 3: High in nineteen ninety six. I still remember my receivers,

742
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: my number one of my number two, Dwight Ster and

743
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: Richard lucel Live. That's my little Zould Dwight Dweightster, I mean,

744
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: Dwight was my homeboy.

745
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was.

746
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: Joe, Oh Joe.

747
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: You think Joe Montowna could tell you who is what

748
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: I receivers were in college or you had two or three?

749
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: Oh but see my my my two. Dwight stir up

750
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: for Richard Luce. That's my Zoe. Richard lu said, that's

751
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: my Zoe. I say, Richard, if you see this, you know, hey,

752
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: we was at that doing work. My hey, listen. My

753
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: running back was Tobar Wilson. Oh my goodness, boy, Toby

754
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: he was. You should have saw me out there.

755
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: Okay, named the offensive line, name your five offensive line and.

756
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: At Organs at Oregon State.

757
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: At Oregon State, yeah, I played receiver. I don't know

758
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 3: exact exactly, that's my point. I was running the office

759
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 3: like this blue Addy. Hey, Mike, you're hot. You're hot.

760
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: You get too you get too off, Mike, you hot?

761
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: Boy?

762
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, at alert alert, and then I go to the gun.

763
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: He ain't do none of that.

764
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, well I used to be he I used

765
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: to be killing that thing. A quarterback I had had

766
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: on the number two too. And you got to remember,

767
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: remember I was the baby when I was a freshman.

768
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: D start these starts with the quarterback. Samri Roll was

769
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: a receiver. Terry Cousins was playing running back. So you

770
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: got to you gotta understand.

771
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 2: And y'all won seven games. We was good.

772
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Now, Oh you got to understand who we played again?

773
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: Seven games?

774
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: I think it's some good competition. Now, what the hey,

775
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 3: Miami Northwestern, Miami Central Edison High School. Then, boy was

776
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: stacked back then.

777
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: Black.

778
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: I ain't hear none of them players. I ain't hear

779
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: none of them name. But y'all name all the guys

780
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: that you name played in the.

781
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just telling the quality that my school had.

782
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 3: We had good quality.

783
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: We had good So what happened to the win?

784
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Huh?

785
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: What the quality? Tell me? The quality wins?

786
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: I know y'all had quality players wins.

787
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: Now, I just don't remember the records from back then.

788
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: That's a very long time ago.

789
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: You know your record were, y'all fourteen and one, fifteen

790
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: to thirteen.

791
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: Two know we weren't able to state.

792
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: Y'all lost in the state championship. Y'all lost in the

793
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: semifinals quarterfinals.

794
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: Damn, I can't remember, but I did score. For what

795
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: I can tell you is I scored four touchdowns in

796
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: one game. And nobody nobody's done that. Nobody scored four

797
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: touchdowns in one game.

798
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: Did y'all win that game.

799
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, matter of fact, we almost beat Miami Northwestern

800
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: the year they won state. One of the greatest, one

801
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: of the greatest high school receivers. I saw with my

802
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: own eyes, Marvin Snoop Minis out of the Scott Projects

803
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: that played for Florida State, played with Kansas City for

804
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 3: a little bit before you got hurt. I've never seen

805
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 3: nothing like Snoop Minutes boring high school. Uh oh my, oh, y'all,

806
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to do? We almost beat the

807
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: team that won the state. I'm just trying to I'm

808
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: just trying to relive my story of high school.

809
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: That's all.

810
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm just sharing that story. So if we're talking football,

811
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: it's taking me down, membery Lane, Can we talk about

812
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: the young bulls that's going into the NFL that got

813
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: an opportunity to start at the highest level and it

814
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: just brought me back to where it all started. That's all.

815
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm just sharing my feelings in my story. That's all.

816
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: My bad man.

817
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, it sucks, it sucks being you, Oh Jo,

818
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: it sucks being oh You want to be young so

819
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: bad to go back out there with you.

820
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: I do I'm doing because listen, I'm really not old

821
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: like I. It kind of it makes me upset and

822
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: it kind of bothers me when people call me unk

823
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: and I think about it, well while you calling me

824
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: unk and I look younger than you sometimes, like you know,

825
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: you know, it's like what you mean, uncle, But let

826
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: me look at you where you look fifty? You look sixty,

827
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, because you're you're drinking your life away and

828
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: you're smoking and all that. But my body feel good.

829
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: Huh. Give me.

830
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 3: I ain't never been hurt. I don't have no injuries.

831
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: I take care of myself.

832
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: You know, you go back out there, you will be hurt.

833
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 3: You think, so, I think?

834
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: I think.

835
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: I think I have the the the self awareness and

836
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: the IQ to be able to protect myself if given

837
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: the opportunity to play at the highest level.

838
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: You think, so, yeah, I don't.

839
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 3: I might not have the speed. I still have my

840
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: my my ladder movement, my quick ain't the same. But

841
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: even if it's not the same, it's still better than

842
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: what's out there.

843
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: No think so mm hmm, you done lost too much

844
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: of it, you Spidey, since it don't take it anymore

845
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: because they ain't been on, you ain't turned them on

846
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: in a long time.

847
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: It's like a car.

848
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: You would have the baddest car you could have a

849
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: bugatt It pays six million dollars for it.

850
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: But don't let it run.

851
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Put it in, put it in your garage, and don't

852
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: cut it on for twelve years, fourteen years, fifteen years.

853
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: Right, be right? You think it go crank?

854
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it should, it should.

855
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: No, it won't.

856
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: And then and then you're gonna have to then you

857
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: have to go take it to the shop, get all

858
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: the fluids flushed. Oh man, you gotta realize, don't you.

859
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: You you haven't run like that?

860
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that like you used to run in

861
00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: a vent.

862
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: You right, you're right, you're right.

863
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a greater chance that you will hurt something.

864
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: Then you go out there and look like your.

865
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: Old self able to chat on my head. Boy, they

866
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: called you all kind of names, Chad hurts, Chad leef yah,

867
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 3: Chad bledsoe, Chad to beato.

868
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was asked today about Geno Smith. I'm scene

869
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: gesture as he defended his quarterback. He said, did you

870
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: see the sign? Did you see what the sign said?

871
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: Next question, well, we know what the sign said, bigger

872
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: buss Gino or JaMarcus Russell with Gino and Max Crosby

873
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: over reacting.

874
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: Hey, I mean I would that's a tough one. I

875
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't say overreacted. Boom, you're talking trashing me. You gotta

876
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: sign right in my face all I've done for you.

877
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm back here in Seattle, and that's what you think

878
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: of me. I laid my life on the line. Is

879
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: your quarterback number one for a couple of years? You

880
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: know things didn't workout, and that's how you think of me.

881
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm coming back. I'm coming back with grace.

882
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: I love you.

883
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: I did everything I could for you as a Seahawk,

884
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: and that's how you feel now you feel I'm a

885
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: bus What do we talk about? Huh? If anything, you

886
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: should be applauding me.

887
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: Clap for me.

888
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 3: I know as a quarterback number one, you hold me

889
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: to a standards is in comparison to some of the greats.

890
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't Tom Brady, I wasn't Payton Manning. But I've

891
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: done all I could and laid it on the line

892
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 3: for you week in and week out.

893
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: Twelve What Look, it's not even it's not even close

894
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: to being true. Now, if Gino Smith was Ryan Leaf. Okay,

895
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: we have a conversation. I mean him or JaMarcus.

896
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: Don't do that as a fan, Like, come on, man,

897
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: you know.

898
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: Who's comeback player of the year.

899
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: Uh. He threw a career high thirty touchdown lead the

900
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: league and completion percentage and earn back to back Pro Bowls.

901
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: So, by no stretch of their imagination, is Jenal Smith

902
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: a bus No?

903
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 3: No, But I mean listen, fans do certain things and

904
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: get that fun of your skin. Yeah, you know, you

905
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: leave a situation most of the time and you come back.

906
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: Some people.

907
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: Let their true feelings show on how they really feel

908
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: about you. Now, I understand your look. You might be

909
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: to the Seahawks, but all I've done. This is how

910
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: you really feel about me truthfully now that I'm not here. Yes, like,

911
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: come on, man, don't do don't do me like that?

912
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Yes, don't do me like that.

913
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 3: You mean I dated you for for for four, five, six,

914
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: six years and now that I'm going wait, this is

915
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: how you truly feel about me now that I'm no

916
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: longer around because I'm that hurts that sting. I can

917
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: understand where the middle finger came from. I understand, Like,

918
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: what are we talking about? I sacrificed you to make

919
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: you happy. On Sundays at one o'clock, I was throwing

920
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: touchdown the DK and ty to locket to make you happy.

921
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: A lot of players played for teammates, respect, coaches, trust, fans, appreciation.

922
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I guess you didn't appreciate me as much

923
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: as I thought you did. Like that, So it does

924
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: hurt when you put it what you when you put

925
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: what you put into it. Lebron might not ever meant this,

926
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: but it hurt him going back to Cleveland considering what

927
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: he gave him. M yere he left, But Bro, I

928
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: did let it on the line for you. I gave

929
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you seven great years, did all I could, and then

930
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: you burn my jersey. You say all these things about

931
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: Geno's like.

932
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: I had to.

933
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: I resurrected my career in Seattle. All I wanted was

934
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: to be appreciated. I know my teammates respected me. I

935
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: know my coaches trusted me. Does when you put when

936
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: you put a lot into something. Uh Granty used to

937
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: say all the time, Boy, I hate an ungrateful person.

938
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

939
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: That irks me too. That irks me too, I hate ungratefulness.

940
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: M hm.

941
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: Mhm. We see out of the best. Sometimes you better

942
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: be careful what you wish for. You thought you, I

943
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: guess you that like uh you that like uh.

944
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Gino, Well, ain't no, ain't no, ain't no thing that

945
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: you're getting. What's this came from Minnesota? What's the guy

946
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: donald samn?

947
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Donald? Ain't no guarantee mm hmm. He ain't got the

948
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: weapons that he had in Minnesota.

949
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ain't got no Jedle, he ain't got no Addison,

950
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: he ain't got Howkinson, he ain't got Aaron Jones. He

951
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: ain't got Kevin o'callor calling plays. And we saw we

952
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: saw the last two games, right, did you see the

953
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: last two games? Ohjo, what was the craziest sign you

954
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: saw as a player?

955
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

956
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: Man, that's a good one. On that's that's a good one.

957
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: Hey.

958
00:47:52,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. I enjoy those environments too,

959
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: I oh my goodness. Though, the craziest sign probably the

960
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: old the old oo, instead of probably stinko. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

961
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: most of the time. And then it's so funny. They

962
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 3: would have their signs, they would have their signs, and

963
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 3: I would talk trash back and walk up to the stands.

964
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: One of their signs. Didn't you sign?

965
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 3: Somebody sign always yeah, we always stand the sign and listen,

966
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: and they always say the same thing, listen, we do

967
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: this because we love you. It has nothing for the

968
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: wrong team. But you want our favorites. And everybody say

969
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: the same thing. They don't really mean it, but they

970
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: don't have a choice but to go against me.

971
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: If you really did suck, nobody says the guy that

972
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: they're getting in the game, you suck.

973
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: Right.

974
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: If all of the players that's really good, that sucks,

975
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: which means you don't you don't actually up. That means

976
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: you're very very good. Ain't nobody doing Tom Brady's backup

977
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: theying Brady?

978
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they're not. Boy, they're not boring to Peyton Man,

979
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: the guy that.

980
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: I guarantee you if if the quarterback, I mean, look,

981
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna blue the polling team. But the loudies boo.

982
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Let's just say Tom Brady wasn't first, he was third. Right,

983
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking for Brady because they want to

984
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: boo him.

985
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: You boo. Greatness, Hey about it.

986
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: I love playing in hostile environments. I love love I

987
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 3: couldn't listen playing at home and cool. That's fun. Yeah,

988
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: I like people cursing and talking trash and all that.

989
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: That was just I was so comfortable being uncomfortable and hostile.

990
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: Well, y'all, y'all rival y'all rival was was Cleveland.

991
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: Because remember with Sam why you got on the phones

992
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: and says, don't throw batteries.

993
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 2: You live in Cincinnati, you don't live in Cleveland.

994
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you got that.

995
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: That was that was you guys, because you're both in Ohio.

996
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, o Ohio.

997
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Right, so it's uh uh, it's a it's a natural

998
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: it's a natural rivalry.

999
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1000
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there was no love lost in it.

1001
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: Before they renamed it the a f C North, it

1002
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: was the AFC Central, right, I think it was still

1003
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: the af C Central when you got in. They changed

1004
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: it like in O two they went to the for

1005
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: the eight the eight U the four team divisions. Because

1006
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: it used to be Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, uh, Baltimore, Tennessee

1007
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville.

1008
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: We were all in one division, don't joe mm hmm.

1009
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: We all we were all in one division.

1010
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1011
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: And then they you know, they split it up and

1012
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: then they took Jacksonville in Tennessee and put them in

1013
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: the South, you know. Uh, we used to be in Seattle,

1014
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: used to be in the AFC West. Then they went

1015
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: to the NFC West. But it states the Chargers the

1016
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: Raiders us in Kansas City. But uh, like when you

1017
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: got like the the Raiders, you know, obviously the Raiders,

1018
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: and and it was our biggest rivals because we came in.

1019
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: They came in like the AFL together the Chiefs. But

1020
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: it's different player. It's definitely different playing on the road

1021
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: than at home. You feel it as you're driving in.

1022
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Everybody's already tailgating. And you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe,

1023
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: they already tailgating and they do it. They throw in

1024
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: the football, they got, they drinking beer already.

1025
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: Like how the hell y'all drinking beer at nine o'clock

1026
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 2: in the morning. Yeah, but they you know, they getting

1027
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: their things, They getting their big grilling.

1028
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1029
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 2: Cleveland, Cleveland fans, I will give them credit.

1030
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: Or as little as they've won in the last thirty

1031
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: plus years, them mofos show.

1032
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Up every I ain't look, I can understand what Joe had.

1033
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: They went to the MC championship game or they went

1034
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, and even if they lost, but

1035
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: the way they show up for their team to not

1036
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: win more than what they do. I ain't seen nothing

1037
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: like it. Ain't no way I'm gonna go sit that

1038
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: there in Nicole. Let alone get up and tailgate. That's

1039
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: going four and four and thirteen, four and twelve.

1040
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: Oh no, listen, I had I had a special relationship

1041
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: with those Cleveland fans, especially Big Dog. I'm not sure

1042
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: what Big Dog is at this point. Every time I

1043
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: do I'm on here, we talk about Cleveland. I always

1044
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: curious how Big Dog is doing. Everyone that's sat in that.

1045
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: I think that might be the North the North end zone.

1046
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: They showed such love in a hostile way, and I

1047
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: made sure to show that love back, even though obviously

1048
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: they're they're they're the opposing fans. But I've always showed

1049
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 3: them respect. They've always showed me respect, and they knew

1050
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: understood when it was game time. Unk. When it's game time, man,

1051
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 3: forget you. We're gonna we're gonna have some fun. And

1052
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: I remember I remember getting permissioned. I think I might

1053
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 3: be the only person that's done that and been accepting

1054
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: of that. Is when I did. I leaped in the

1055
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: dog pound. Remember remember when I jumped in the Dog Pound.

1056
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: So I asked, I asked Big Dog before the game started,

1057
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 3: I said, listen, if I happened to score on this end,

1058
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: I want to jump to you. No disrespect, but let

1059
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 3: me jump to you. And he said, yeah, well come on.

1060
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: And do it.

1061
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 3: And longold one person right, yeah yeah, big Dog, yeah,

1062
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: one part of the big big Man big Man people in.

1063
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

1064
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: Listen, I scored on that and I looked for him

1065
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: and I saw him. I jumped right to him. Everybody

1066
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: else around, man, I smelled like being a hold the

1067
00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: rest of the game.

1068
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: He did, and did they shove your ass out the club?

1069
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 3: Let me right out the club. But listen, that was

1070
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 3: That was a great moment for me. Man, that was

1071
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: a great moment.

1072
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: You you wire for that one.

1073
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: It was.

1074
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was awesome. Mm hmmmm mm hmmmm

1075
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: mm hmmm

1076
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: Hm