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Speaker 1: The first round of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: In the books, it's early born in on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: I gotta beat right his round table, Daniel Popper, The Athletic,

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Speaker 1: Gil Benzano, Southern California News Group, and Jeff Miller La

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Speaker 1: Times Gentlemen of the Chargers, we've been talking about offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle for the last four months. I think they got

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Speaker 1: their guy or Shot Slater. A surprising pick in that

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect Rashawns Slater to be there. Jeff, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody Chargers included in their draft room, we're

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Speaker 1: kind of getting a little edgy, I would suspect right

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Speaker 1: before that. Yeah, this thing worked out about as well

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Speaker 1: as the Chargers I think, realistically, Lee could have expected.

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Speaker 1: They got the tackle that I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: my drafts, a lot of us have been talking about Slater,

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of mock drafts had Slater

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Speaker 1: falling to them. You shouldn't they falling, but getting to

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Speaker 1: them at thirteen, and it worked out perfectly for the

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Speaker 1: for the team. But yeah, I would suspect you never

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Speaker 1: know when these drafts what teams are going to do.

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Speaker 1: And as much as everybody figured the Cowboys were going

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Speaker 1: to take defense that on that twelfth pick. There had

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Speaker 1: to be some uncertainty in that in that Chargers room,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they were. They were delighted when the

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Speaker 1: pick came in and they knew that Slater was going

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Speaker 1: to be waiting there for him. Gil when the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers took Trey Lance, you thought to yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if mac Jones is going to be

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Speaker 1: in those top twelve picks, which means Soul and Slater

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Speaker 1: would likely be top ten picks. So what was going

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Speaker 1: through your mind watching kind of the top twelve playout?

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Speaker 1: Because you talked about Michael Parsons with us last week,

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Speaker 1: he was the pick right before the Chargers selected. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was kind of surprise as well, Michael Parkson going

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Speaker 1: twelve to the to the Cowboys. But you know, everybody

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Speaker 1: assumed the Cows are gonna take a cornerback. You know,

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Speaker 1: jac Horner petitsorth ten, but Hornets or Town went eight

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Speaker 1: at nine. So I think that's when the when the

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Speaker 1: draft flipped, and when I saw the Panthers take a cornerbag,

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Speaker 1: I started thinking, Okay, there's a chance of Slater could

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Speaker 1: be at thirteen and then you see the Bears trade

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Speaker 1: up for Justin Fields at number eleven. Okay, now it's

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Speaker 1: starting to really fall for the Chargers. And the last

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Speaker 1: obstacle was number twelve. What the cow was Because the cows,

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Speaker 1: you know, are getting older and offensive lines. You start

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Speaker 1: thinking maybe Slater could be there. And then once you

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Speaker 1: know Slater was there at thirteen, I start oneing, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's right there for the Charges. You know, don't mess

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Speaker 1: it up. You'll make the pick thirty up and get

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Speaker 1: ri shots later. And it all worked out for them.

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Speaker 1: Very confident gil don't mess it up, Popper. I'm paraphrasing

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Speaker 1: tomp but he said something to the Effectives presser. After

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Speaker 1: the drafted around eight, they had a pretty good idea

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Speaker 1: of how the next few picks were gonna shake out,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about maybe you trade up

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Sewel or Slater. They were able

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Speaker 1: to stick and pick at thirteen. Yeah, so you know

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Speaker 1: the pick that for me that really changed it was

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Speaker 1: was five with the Bengals, and everyone expected them to

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Speaker 1: go chase. But once they went Chase, it sort of

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Speaker 1: shifted the tackle market back right. So then the Lions

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Speaker 1: at seven you know, you're sitting there thinking, okay, can

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Speaker 1: the Chargers move up? Justin Fields was still on the board.

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Speaker 1: What's that market going to shake out? As you know,

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Speaker 1: how much is it going to cost to move up?

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Speaker 1: But obviously they felt like if at thirteen they were

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Speaker 1: going to get a good player regardless, and they were

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Speaker 1: sitting there hoping that that's later would fall to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, Vic Fangio out in Denver defensive coach. They

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Speaker 1: already signed two cornerbacks this offseason. They bringing another cornerback. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: they felt like like Vic Fangio was going to focus

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Speaker 1: on defense and try and add more talent there. And then,

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Speaker 1: as Gill said, the trade up with the Bears going

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Speaker 1: to get Justin Fields that sort of changed everything. And

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys were still there. You know, a team could

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Speaker 1: have traded up to twelve. You know, I think Brandon

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Speaker 1: Staley said that last night. You know, I think they

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Speaker 1: pretty much knew that the Cowboys were you know, defense,

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Speaker 1: the defense was not good last year. They need help there.

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Speaker 1: But the Jets had some capital and they ended up

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Speaker 1: moving up to fourteen. They probably couldn't put a package

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Speaker 1: help at guard. It was a dream scenario. It worked

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Speaker 1: out perfectly for the Chargers. And I think the key

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Speaker 1: point here is that they're bringing in a player who

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Speaker 1: called himself, He's going to be ready to play from

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Speaker 1: day one. He's an elite athlete and an elite processor.

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Speaker 1: And his ability to understand fronts, to understand what defenses

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Speaker 1: the things the Chargers talked about last night. They needed

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Speaker 1: a plug and play guy at left tackle, and they

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Speaker 1: got it. And it's absolutely enormous because you start looking

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Speaker 1: at this offensive line right coming together easy a Bushe Bulaga.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's always the caveat if they can stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: But they have some depth there too, Like if Bulaga

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Speaker 1: does get injured, Filer can kick out to right tackle

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Speaker 1: and Slater can move to guard. You got Trey Pipkins,

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Speaker 1: that's the backup tackle. If you get another guard here today,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure we'll get into all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: You've got some depth, you've got some flexibility, you've got talent.

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Speaker 1: To me this is the most talented offensive line they've

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Speaker 1: had in Tom Tlasco's ten years. GM Jeff Obviously, that

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Speaker 1: game against Chase Young put Rashaun Slater on the map.

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, he had thirty seven career starts for Northwestern,

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Speaker 1: actually blocked for Justin Jackson as a true freshman, as

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Speaker 1: Jackson went on to become Northwestern's all time leading rusher.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you talk about opting out of the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty season, he worked with Duke Bannyweather, the offensive

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Speaker 1: two hundred plus workouts. Duke put this on his Twitter,

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Speaker 1: two hundred forty two days, thirty five weeks to be

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Speaker 1: able to get that tutelage to get NFL ready. What

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Speaker 1: kind of impact do you think that death's going to

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Speaker 1: have on him entering this offensive line room here in

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Speaker 1: guy who has a talent that everybody says that he has.

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Speaker 1: I say that because I'm not gonna lie to and

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Speaker 1: I haven't, but everybody talks about his skill level and

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Speaker 1: his athletic ability coming from an athletic family. He's got

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Speaker 1: it certainly understand it's understandable why he was a considered

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Speaker 1: one of the top offensive line prospects, and you know

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Speaker 1: now than the last time he played. And for a

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Speaker 1: a great sign for the Chargers and there's no reason

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Speaker 1: to as Daniel said, there's no reason to not think

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Speaker 1: that this has the potential to work out great for

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Speaker 1: easy to make the case that after Trevor Lawrence, that

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Speaker 1: pick at thirteen was probably the most no brainer pick

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Speaker 1: a guy they wanted. It's a spot they so I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's you look at the package the Chargers

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Speaker 1: on the clock. I found it interesting Gil during the call,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Sealey gets on the line with Slater and says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be a line of scrimmage football team. So

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Speaker 1: we talk about protecting Justin Herbert but also the ability

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Speaker 1: and Joshua Kelly and Austin Eckler. This is a guy

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Speaker 1: who excels at both. Yeah, and you heard Tom Colement

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Speaker 1: bringing a guy like Rashaunson who could also play in

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Speaker 1: video you went viral aways like he's weightlifted at his

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Speaker 1: when I need to. He's really nice off the field,

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Speaker 1: but when you see his tape on the field, he

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Speaker 1: has that mean stream you can I think for the

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Speaker 1: Charger for Charger fans are really gonna like that pop.

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Speaker 1: He gets to go against Joey Bosa every day too.

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Speaker 1: it's very clear that when Brandon zially took this job,

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Speaker 1: going to be successful, we need not just an average

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Speaker 1: is how we're going to dictate games. We're going to

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Speaker 1: physical in the run game and in pass protection. And

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Speaker 1: they've gone out and they've succeeded in overhauling this offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And both Brandon's Daley and Tom Talasco deserve a lot

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Speaker 1: of credit for making that happen this offseason. It's a

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Speaker 1: heck of a room too with a guy like Lidsley

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Speaker 1: and Filer Rabushi Bulaga, guys who have been in the

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Speaker 1: could soak up some knowledge from. Hey, before we get

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Speaker 1: to rounds two and three and what the Chargers may do.

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Speaker 1: I just go around the horn, Jeff. Just biggest surprise

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Speaker 1: or takeaway outside of the Chargers pick in the first round.

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Speaker 1: A lot of drama yesterday. Uh yeah, it was I

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Speaker 1: And it started with old Aaron Rodgers thing before the

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Speaker 1: draft even began, right, that was all thought that was

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Speaker 1: going that Aaron Rodgers was gonna be playing for the

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Speaker 1: Broncos or maybe the forty nine Ers or might happen.

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Speaker 1: It's still good at it's right. But yeah, the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers to the Broncos. How interesting would that have been?

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah there, um, you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people it's perfect. You know, Gil mentioned it, and I

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Speaker 1: think what to say it another way, The Chargers didn't

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Speaker 1: But then you look at like what the Raiders did, Uh,

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Speaker 1: lot of people now are saying, like, what in the

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Speaker 1: But that's what the Chargers definitely did not do. They

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Speaker 1: did not outthink themselves with their pick. I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders have not listen to adi Obadia mock drafts,

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Speaker 1: so for the last few years, that's for sure. Yo,

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Speaker 1: what about you, I'll give you a a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that jac Horn went to

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Speaker 1: kind of with the restauranse later pick with the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: mac Jones was there at fifteen. They didn't they didn't

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Speaker 1: mac Jones does with the Patriots. Yeah, sometimes patience is

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Speaker 1: and I used that example with the Chargers, just kind

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Speaker 1: What about you? Okay, So I need to run about

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Speaker 1: these Raiders thing because it makes it's every year. If

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Speaker 1: every single year you make a pick, the higher world

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Speaker 1: and the entire world's like, wow, they really reached on

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Speaker 1: thing if you're if you're reaching on every first round

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Speaker 1: reevaluate the process there in Las Vegas. All right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's the ram the other ones that surprised me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggie already had their shot with your bisky, and

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Speaker 1: don't see very often. They got to get that one right.

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Speaker 1: But personally, I think Field's going to be great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of the times these teams are

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Speaker 1: just overthinking the quarterback stuff. I mean, it's a crapshoot anyway.

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Speaker 1: But if the kid goes out with broken ribs and

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Speaker 1: beats Clemson like he's a ball, you don't overlook it, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean everyone did the same thing with Justin Herbert, Oh,

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Speaker 1: So that's very straighting up for fields. I liked that one,

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Speaker 1: every one. The Kadarius Tony picks of the Giants is weird.

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Speaker 1: Like they have Sterling Shepherd, they signed him to an extension. There.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got Barkley, you're gonna take you know,

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Speaker 1: but they really needed an edge guy, and Quinny pay

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Speaker 1: the Colts, which I thought was a great fit. So

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Speaker 1: it's hard to knock the Saints. They're they're pretty good

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Speaker 1: rounds two and three, Chargers with three selections, Pop, I'll

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Speaker 1: stick with you. We'll go around the horn. Just a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys the Chargers fans should be on the

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Speaker 1: I think it has to be a corner um. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Asante Samuel is the name to watch. That's not to

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Speaker 1: Samuel Jr. I don't know if he makes it to

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Speaker 1: But keep an eyeut on the safeties too. There's some

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Speaker 1: People thought he would be a first round pick Richie

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Speaker 1: I could see that as well. And I'll stop there

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Speaker 1: just to leave some names for Gail and Jeff. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: what are you I think? I think Popper just named

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Speaker 1: the edge players before you go, thank you. I was

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Speaker 1: look pretty nice next to Joey both, So they need

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Speaker 1: edge rushers. They're kind of thin there. I know that

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Speaker 1: medical issues with him. There's something leaked like a couple

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Speaker 1: mean that guy's Dane Brugel or a draft expert time

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Speaker 1: that could be a great value. Peck, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: And Hey, the Chargers do have a pair of third rounders,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm impressed with is that Daniel

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Speaker 1: I can't deal with that at this point in my life.

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Speaker 1: It's too much. So I love that. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: during the draft band this is. We're taping this really

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Speaker 1: early on Friday morning. I'll see you guys oppressors really

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Speaker 1: late tonight. Appreciate you spend us some time. Always love

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Speaker 1: doing this. Our Beat Writers round Table Daniel Popper, Gil Manzato,

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