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Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live on a Tuesday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Browns Daily. I am merely Bo the Great

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Speaker 2: z is going to join on the Twisted Tea Hot

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Speaker 2: Time Hotline. In fact, he's going to do so right now,

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Speaker 2: because right as we went off the air yesterday, within

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes, ironically enough, the Browns placed linebacker

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Usu Kormoa on the reserve pup list. He will

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Speaker 2: not play this season. The statement from j Okay to

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns fan base and my supporters worldwide, thank

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Speaker 2: you for your patients in my silence from day one,

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Speaker 2: you embraced me as more than a player, but also

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Speaker 2: as a brother, a young man with purpose. I'm grateful

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Speaker 2: for the Browns organization for their full support into the

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Speaker 2: world class doctors guiding me through recovery. Well, I won't

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Speaker 2: suit up this season. I'm focused on what I can

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Speaker 2: control my healing, my mindset, my faith. The body may rest,

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Speaker 2: but calling never sleeps. I've given my heart to this game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's next, but I'll continue trusting my

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Speaker 2: medical team, serving the community, and backing my brothers on

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Speaker 2: the field. Love always, Jay, okay Zee, You and I

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Speaker 2: obviously talked about this yesterday after the show. There certainly

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Speaker 2: was some feeling that this was in play, just with

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Speaker 2: how this whole off season is gone and just how

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Speaker 2: quiet it's all been on that front. But to hear

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Speaker 2: it finally made official, your reaction, buddy, is what, Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: I think there is go ahead, go ahead, Sorry, you're on. Now,

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Speaker 2: you're on, now, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt that this was unfortunately always in play.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's fair to wonder whether or not

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Sukormo will ever play football in the National Football

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Speaker 3: League again, and it's it's a sad thing. And as

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Speaker 3: he said, he's gonna trust his doctors and hopefully, you know,

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Speaker 3: he can get to the point where he can play.

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Speaker 3: And I remember that was you know, that was the

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Speaker 3: Jim Donovan game, right, that was the Baltimore Ravens. That

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Speaker 3: was the amazing come from behind victory and all of

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Speaker 3: it that went into that day, and you know, he

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Speaker 3: took a shot from Derrick Henry and it was scary

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Speaker 3: at the time, but I don't think anybody thought it

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Speaker 3: was going to get to this point that it has

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Speaker 3: gotten to. And it's just it's that Jok is an

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Speaker 3: unbelievable player. A couple of years ago, over twenty tackles

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Speaker 3: for loss, over one hundred tackles. One of three linebackers

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Speaker 3: who were off ball linebackers who accomplished that in the

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Speaker 3: last decade. The others were Levante David and Luke Keikley.

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Speaker 3: He was on his way to being, you know, one

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Speaker 3: of the most dominant and impactful off ball linebackers in

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Speaker 3: the national football He was the best player on the

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Speaker 3: field in the Browns playoff lost the Houston even though

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Speaker 3: they came up short, he stood out as being, you know,

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Speaker 3: the most dominant guy on the field. And this is

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Speaker 3: a young man that's gone through a lot in his life,

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Speaker 3: the tragedy the loss of his brother just a couple

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Speaker 3: and it really bums me out for him. He is

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Speaker 3: somebody who is so much more than a football player, though,

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Speaker 3: and I think we will really get to see that

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Speaker 3: in this folding pattern. We know he won't play in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. We don't know about twenty twenty six yet.

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Speaker 3: But Jeremiah wosi Formo an incredible young man who matured

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Speaker 3: he's a special player. He's a guy that I found

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Speaker 3: my interviews with him to be unique really amongst all

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Speaker 3: the players that I've ever interviewed. He just looked at

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Speaker 3: the world very differently, very mature wise, beyond his years,

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Speaker 3: that just was a special guy. He'll be missed, certainly

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Speaker 3: for what he can do off on the field, but

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Speaker 3: I love that he said he's going to be very

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Speaker 3: much involved off the field with his teammates. And we

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Speaker 3: know coach Tarbor, who we have a great affection for,

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Speaker 3: absolutely loves Jeremiah. Here's something just I'll share with people

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Speaker 3: that you know. And I think Tars may have said

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah's Cormoa probably knew he wasn't playing, came back, did

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Speaker 3: the full off season workouts, and in the meetings, he

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Speaker 3: So this is somebody who, even though this has been

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Speaker 3: It's very sad for Browns fans, and you know, you're

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Speaker 3: looking at a linebacker room. Now you know Jordan Hicks

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Speaker 3: that's you know, Jerome Baker, who's got a lot of

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Speaker 3: those movement skills that Jay Okay had the former buck eye,

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Speaker 3: So you still have a good linebacker room. But he's

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Speaker 3: irreplaceable because he kind of really is one of one

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Speaker 3: at his size, his movement skills, he was a unicorn

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Speaker 3: and he's going to be missed.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt he was.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was having an all Pro caliber season

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Speaker 2: last year when this happened. I mean, that's yeah kind

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Speaker 2: of and he'd been building towards that, and he was

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Speaker 2: he was in the middle of that when this injury happened.

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Speaker 2: It has been so quiet for so long, And usually

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Speaker 2: with these type of things, the longer and quieter it is,

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Speaker 2: the more that you're concerned, right, I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: you've been around sports long enough. That's usually the way

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The thing with him, buddy, that is every it felt

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Speaker 2: like everything that he said was so purposeful and so measured.

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Speaker 2: I just really enjoyed the conversations I've had. He's just

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Speaker 2: a really enlightened dude. And and all of that is

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Speaker 2: as big as as you can get in terms of

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Speaker 2: what's he going to do with the rest of his

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Speaker 2: life and if this is indeed it and I obviously

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Speaker 2: think at this point you'd have to think that it's

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Speaker 2: in play that it is. But the on field stuff

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Speaker 2: he was such there. There just aren't many players on

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Speaker 2: that loss you went over the linebacker room, and I

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Speaker 2: do we wondered when the Swesssenger pick happened, I said,

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Speaker 2: I know they loved Swesssenger, but anybody would. He's that

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Speaker 2: as that making sense, But on the football field, man

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Speaker 2: he was. He was unbelievable the last two years that

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Speaker 2: he played and is somebody that I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: I think he's irreplaceable on that side of things.

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Speaker 3: It's I said, he's one of one.

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Speaker 5: He's a unicorn.

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Speaker 3: He's the matrix like movements, his ability to bend, get

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Speaker 3: the acceleration because he was quote unquote undersized at the position.

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Speaker 3: Swassinger is a two hundred and forty pound guys, Swessener

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Speaker 3: probably the MIC this year. I bet Swesper will be

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Speaker 3: the will with him in a lot of our two

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Speaker 3: and there is no replacing jeremiahsu Cormo because.

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Speaker 6: He is unique.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 6: I really believe that he was.

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Speaker 3: A one of one in the way in which he played,

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Speaker 3: the position, the way in which his body moved, this speed,

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Speaker 3: it's a massive loss, and you're right he was. He

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Speaker 3: he was right there. And if something it's just it's said,

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Speaker 3: it's one of those people that kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, would have been a perennial you know,

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Speaker 3: megastar in this league. Unfortunately it's been it's been taken

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Speaker 3: obviously we have to acknowledge the possibility that it could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mentioned the that that that story from tarvow he was,

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Speaker 2: he's been at all the involuntary stuff. I do wonder

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Speaker 2: like now that he's there's probably a relief for him

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Speaker 2: you know, the next year to look like and and

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Speaker 2: that will be fascinating. I'm curious how much he'll be around.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be around a lot because I think

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Speaker 3: for his mental health. I think he will be around

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Speaker 3: lot of what he did wasn't just about football.

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Speaker 6: Think about just the way that he.

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Speaker 3: Wore his traditional garb to every game to bring attention

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Speaker 3: a platform to share a lot of the things and

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Speaker 3: be very much around. It's just unfortunate, you know, you

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Speaker 3: think for the Browns. You know, two years ago it

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Speaker 3: was Nick Chubb and we don't know what his time

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Speaker 3: is in the league, but it appears the Interrewberry saying

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Speaker 3: it's more and more unlikely that he'll be back with

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. And then you know, last year it's

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah with Supermo guys that you thought really were going

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Speaker 3: to be you know, fixtures. If you said who are

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Speaker 3: the five most important Browns, you know, that's two of them,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately you're not gonna going to get to see

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Speaker 3: them in Jeremiah's case, for any team in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 3: and for Nick Chubb sounds like if he does play,

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Speaker 3: it will be elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the injury stuff we've had here is pretty

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Speaker 2: I mean, DeShawn, you know with all of the injuries,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, and there's so many just critical injuries to

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Speaker 2: the most important players and everybody's dealing with it. But

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Speaker 2: it does feel like we've been hit you know, potentially,

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Speaker 2: you know, specifically bad here in the last few years

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Speaker 2: with this injury stuff on that side of things. All right,

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Speaker 2: So we did get the update in terms of the schedule.

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Speaker 2: We had thought that this would be the case, but

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Speaker 2: now official. The Browns will host the Minnesota Vikings week

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Speaker 2: five in London at Tottenham Stadium. That will be an

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Speaker 2: October fifth game, nine thirty in the morning. The Vikings

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Speaker 2: are going to do something that we've not seen before,

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Speaker 2: which is they're going to play two overseas games back

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Speaker 2: to back. So they're going to play the Steelers in

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Speaker 2: play us on the fifth in London, so they'll just

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Speaker 2: stay over there. My Hunters, they would just treat this

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Speaker 3: Last time we were literally in the crowd with the people,

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Speaker 5: Two, two thousand and nine. Z. You are correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Think about that. That is that's craziness that

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Speaker 2: Are London breakings here? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The our London bureau chief, Paul Brown is already getting

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Brown's all over and he's been texting me.

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Speaker 3: He had this, He's had this for a while, he's

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Speaker 5: Yeah. He was saying, karaoke Thursday, bar crawl Friday, Brown's

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Speaker 5: I think that's pretty sure. That there was a plane

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Speaker 2: What do you got to do? What are you doing now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a little The photos were fantastic. Amanda

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Speaker 5: It'll be really glorious.

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Speaker 4: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Now you remember what I asked for.

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Speaker 3: I remember what you asked for.

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Speaker 4: I've done all my parts.

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Speaker 2: it Twisted Clean. So a couple of things from this

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Speaker 2: Mike Petragoli, who's been on the Bengals beat for a

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Speaker 2: long time, Like Trey Hendrickson is at Bengals camp in

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Speaker 2: golf attire in golf attire and he just did a

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Speaker 2: session with the media. Yeah, we're just not seeing eye

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Speaker 2: to eye on the structure. Graciously appreciate a chance to

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Speaker 2: negotiate behind closed bordoors, but he was assured that a

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Speaker 2: deal would be reworked if he continued to produce. He

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Speaker 2: feels the team has gone back on that, all while

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Speaker 2: on the Bengals practice facility grounds.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he claims that Zach Taylor called him a month

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Speaker 5: ago and said that he didn't come to these he

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Speaker 5: would be fined.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's all. That's not You can't do that. These

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Speaker 2: are involuntary. You can't find for this. Hmm.

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Speaker 5: Interesting, it's it's really interesting. I'm gonna see if I

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Speaker 5: can't pull some audio from Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting one with as he's going for

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Speaker 2: some some leverage there. Look, it was a newsy Monday.

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Speaker 2: You had all the NBA stuff, there's conspiracy theories running

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Speaker 2: a mock with that, and then of course the sad

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Speaker 2: news for us about Ja okay that he's not going

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Speaker 2: to play in twenty twenty five and that he's not

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Speaker 2: saying this. But I think you can connect dots that

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Speaker 2: the career could be in jeopardy for Jeremiah Usu Corromo,

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Speaker 2: who is nothing short of pure joy to watch on

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Speaker 2: the football. That I can assure you, having met the

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Speaker 2: man as we have and know him a little bit,

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Speaker 2: he's a better person than he is a player.

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Speaker 5: And that's saying a Locke.

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Speaker 2: He's a hell of a football player, So that was

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Speaker 2: big news yesterday on that side of things. We think

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Speaker 2: our great friend, Bill Bender the Sporting News, and he

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Speaker 2: joins us there. He was at Rookie Minni camp. We

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Speaker 2: were able to embrace uh and see you their pal. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I'd never seen anything like what happened here at Rookie

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Speaker 2: Mini caamp with upwards of sixty players involved. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was awesome that you got real football for both quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: What were your impressions of what you saw Friday? And

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Speaker 2: have you ever seen anything quite like that?

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Speaker 6: No, And I've been up to a couple of Browns

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Speaker 6: rookie Mini camp and the vibe was different. I think

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Speaker 6: you know. I talked to the GIRA yesterday about this.

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Speaker 6: We had a phone conversation about the whole word circus,

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Speaker 6: and it wasn't that it was a business like Rookie

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Speaker 6: Mini camp with the live reps portions which after you

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Speaker 6: and I talked went over and checked some of that out.

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Speaker 6: It looked good and fun and competitive, and you know,

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Speaker 6: as far as the business of the NFL side, obviously,

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Speaker 6: all the cameras, not all of the most of them

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Speaker 6: were pointed at two quarterbacks were going to talk about

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Speaker 6: but Uh, it was a good vibe for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 2: Did either of those guys? Did either of them look

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Speaker 2: like where they were drafted? Because I've been to I

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Speaker 2: was like, it. I remember Baker's and there's some misses.

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Speaker 2: I didn't neither one of those should or had the

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Speaker 2: one rep. This is going all the way back to Friday.

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Speaker 2: He got better as the weekend went along, but all

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Speaker 2: the way back to Friday he had the one rep

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Speaker 2: where he kind of mishandled the snap and just kind

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Speaker 2: of threw it. But other than that, I didn't see

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Speaker 2: a ball even I'm not sure if a ball hit

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Speaker 2: the ground on Friday Bill from either guy.

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Speaker 6: No, they both looked sharp. And you know, I think

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Speaker 6: for Dylan Gabriel, the questions about his height continue and

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Speaker 6: he can't control that. You can only control how you

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Speaker 6: play out there, and he looked under control. There was

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Speaker 6: one play with him the pocket collapsed and he kind

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Speaker 6: of squeezed out and ran out in the open field.

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Speaker 6: I was like, okay, yeah, I remember that in Oregon

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Speaker 6: and Oklahoma. And you see up because he's played a

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Speaker 6: ton of football, and Shador has played a lot of football,

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Speaker 6: I think it's hard standpoint from media standpoint, Yes, we're

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Speaker 6: going to gravitate towards Shador. There's no doubt. And he

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Speaker 6: looked sharp. He looked on point. I watched that red

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Speaker 6: zone seven on seven drill. I thought he looked awesome

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Speaker 6: than that and wasn't there Saturday, but from what I

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Speaker 6: heard from the interview portions, both guys did well there.

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Speaker 6: So it creates the most dominant storylines going into OTAs

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Speaker 6: in the preseason as this Browns quarterback room and four

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Speaker 6: guys in it.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with Dylan you mentioned, because I yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of you watch him and if he was

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Speaker 2: in a number eight, and if it was in Green

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Speaker 2: or in Crimson, you'd look at you go, looks exactly

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Speaker 2: the same, all the stuff that he did in college.

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Speaker 2: And I do think there's a correlation that the NFL

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Speaker 2: game has moved towards the college game more than it

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Speaker 2: probably at any point in the history of college football

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League. And when you watch him,

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Speaker 2: he just looks so comfortable in all of it. And

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Speaker 2: as someone that's such as yourself who's seen so many

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Speaker 2: of his games, what did the Browns get in him?

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Speaker 6: First of all? High quality character guy. You know you

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Speaker 6: saw that when I got to spend some time around

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Speaker 6: him at Big Ten Media Day at Oregon in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 6: because the question was could Oregon come into the Big

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Speaker 6: Ten right away with this guy and have success in

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Speaker 6: the Big Ten. And they did. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 6: pointing this out for a while, and you know that

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Speaker 6: I cover college football. Dylan Gabriel bet Ohio State and

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Speaker 6: Michigan in the same season, and you know, last guy

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Speaker 6: to do that in the Big Ten. You have to

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Speaker 6: go all the way back to.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 6: Technically, you know Kirk Cousins in some ways, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 6: and Connor Cook, although Connor Cook was hurt when Michigan

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Speaker 6: State started a different guy. So my point being, it

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Speaker 6: doesn't happen often that you have a guy that goes

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Speaker 6: and beats Ohio State and beats Michigan and I know

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Speaker 6: they lost the Rose Bull rematch, and that tape is

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Speaker 6: what you want to watch if you want to be

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Speaker 6: critical of Dylan Gabriel. But you know he wasn't playing

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Speaker 6: defense in that game.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he was not playing defense in that game.

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Speaker 2: It was far far from his fault on that in

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Speaker 2: terms of Shador. Look this this kid for the folks

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Speaker 2: who and I understand there's a portion of our audience

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Speaker 2: who just consumes the NFL and does not love college football.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to explain the Colorado phenomenon. It's it's a

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Speaker 2: hard thing because we don't have a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: We don have a lot of examples of it in

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Speaker 2: history of a situation of a program that was I

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Speaker 2: think at the time Dion took the job, Bill, I

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Speaker 2: think it was the worst spot of any Power five

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Speaker 2: team in the country.

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Speaker 5: Truly.

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Speaker 2: I think they were that bad, and I think they

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Speaker 2: were in that big of a hole. And to immediately

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Speaker 2: become kind of that first month that year won the

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Speaker 2: darlings of college football, and then last year to be

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Speaker 2: on the precipice of the playoff, to be right there

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Speaker 2: late in the season tells you how far they came

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Speaker 2: so quickly, and he was at the center of all

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Speaker 2: of that. Obviously, the pre draft process did not go

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Speaker 2: well for him. That's how he ends up in the

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Speaker 2: fifth round. But if you watch him and you have

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Speaker 2: no idea where he's picked, he definitely does not look

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Speaker 2: like a fifth round pick. What were your impressions of

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Speaker 2: what he did on the field when you saw it

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Speaker 2: with your own eyes, and then what you were your

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Speaker 2: impressions of how he's handled everything since he's been here.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so let's start with Colorado two weeks left in

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Speaker 6: the season. Last year, there was a path to them

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Speaker 6: to the College Football Playoff and nobody thought that was possible.

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Speaker 6: When you go back and look at Colorado with other

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Speaker 6: than one year with Mike McIntyre, they were very bad.

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Speaker 6: And between Jackson State and Colorado, high touchdown to interception ratio,

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Speaker 6: high completion percentage took. What got beat too, got like

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Speaker 6: a lot of facts, like just gotting, you know, the

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Speaker 6: pressure and getting hit and standing in there now. So

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Speaker 6: the first thing that jumped out bow and I don't

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Speaker 6: know if it did to you. He's big. He looks

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Speaker 6: like an NFL quarterback in terms of the size part

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Speaker 6: of it. He threw the ball, got it out on time,

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Speaker 6: and he's very accurate. So if the arm strength comes

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Speaker 6: into play, I mean, I don't know how to measure

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Speaker 6: arm strength with NFL quarterbacks. I can't. You can see

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Speaker 6: it and you can feel it. But I thought he

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Speaker 6: looked all right. I think talking to Nathan yesterday, question

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Speaker 6: becomes playbook terminology under center and then you know, getting

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Speaker 6: out of the huddle and adjustments and what's the learning

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Speaker 6: curve there? And I think that might take some time.

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Speaker 6: But Nathan had a great point if and I know

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Speaker 6: he probably said it on this show if he were

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Speaker 6: the number two pick, and we were talking about this

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Speaker 6: this week after looking Mini can't Cleveland Radio would be

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Speaker 6: non stop Shaudoor talk.

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Speaker 2: We were standing on the sidelines at that point. You

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Speaker 2: you were you were weren't with us at the time,

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Speaker 2: but we were. You He and I walked out to

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Speaker 2: the sidelines and Siciliano was with us and we were

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Speaker 2: kind of just talking. And we said that on Friday

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Speaker 2: that if if you didn't know where these guys were picked,

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Speaker 2: and if you took either one of them two overall, Gabriel,

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Speaker 2: the size thing is noticeable right away, and so that

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Speaker 2: would be an outlier to see that like that. But

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Speaker 2: he's been that height the whole time he's been at

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Speaker 2: this high level, so he's used to it. And and

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Speaker 2: we'll just see what happens at the NFL level. But

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Speaker 2: Shador especially because of the size, because of the build

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Speaker 2: and the throws that he makes, and folks, he can

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Speaker 2: make every throw. If I were to tell you that's

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Speaker 2: the number two pick in the draft, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: batted an eye bill.

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Speaker 6: That was my takeaway, correct, And you know, being around

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Speaker 6: the other brown reporters and you know, kind of taking

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Speaker 6: in what they had to say about the pre draft process.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of the vibe I got. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: to learn, and you know, here's where it will get

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Speaker 6: to me as we get into August. Do they carry

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Speaker 6: all four quarterbacks? And once Shador it's to the point

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Speaker 6: where he's pushing, if he actually makes a push to start,

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Speaker 6: then the attention will really start. Because he is a

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Speaker 6: rookie quarterback. Beyond everything that he's done, can he have

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Speaker 6: success at a place where they've started seven quarterbacks the

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Speaker 6: last two seasons. So to me, if somebody asked me today,

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Speaker 6: is shaudor are going to start at some point this year?

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Speaker 6: I mean the odds on answer would be probably yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think he'll get a shot at some point.

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Speaker 2: So the other thing that is top of mind today

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Speaker 2: is the NFL schedule. And the one thing that I

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Speaker 2: fight constantly down in the mornings in Columbus is that

655
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: the NFL and college football ought to get into a

656
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: room and say how can we best serve our fans

657
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: to make sure that everybody can consume all of this.

658
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: So two things have changed in the last five six years.

659
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: Number One, college Football decided that they're going to go

660
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: with an expanded playoffs. We had twelve teams last year.

661
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: We all know in college football we're going to sixteen

662
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: by the time we gets to twenty twenty six. One

663
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: more year, twelve and then sixteen. The NFL has decided

664
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 2: to play games on Black Friday, on a bunch of Saturdays,

665
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: on Christmas Day, all of these things because their television

666
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: partners all demand all of these things. When I see

667
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: college football quarterfinal triple header on December twentieth, and Gadell

668
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: did this last year too. He did it with Raven Steelers,

669
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: and then he did it with the second game that

670
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: day was the Chiefs and the Texans, and he's doing

671
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: it again this year. And its Commanders and Eagles, and

672
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: it's Bears and Packers. So he's playing the hits. Why

673
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: can't the NFL and college football come to some agreement

674
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 2: where the fans win and you can consume all of

675
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: this stuff? And why is that such a big ask? Bill?

676
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: I cannot, for the life of me understand it.

677
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: Basketball comparison would be if Adam Silver put Celtic's calves

678
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 6: at noon on the first day of March Madness or

679
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: you know whoever.

680
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: The like if he started the playoffs, Bill would be

681
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: like if he started the playoffs during March Madness.

682
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, Game one Cleveland, Indiana during twelve fifteen Michigan State

683
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 6: and you know USC whatever. I covered that game a

684
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: few years ago. I this is gross. There is a

685
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 6: guy and I'm a guy. I think you and I

686
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 6: are like on most things anyway, but on this one too.

687
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 6: That we love college football, we love the NFL. It's

688
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 6: okay to love both. I do cover one more than

689
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 6: the other. But I hate it that they you know,

690
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 6: there's a possibility that Ohio State could be playing or whoever,

691
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 6: you know, Tennessee during the Green Bay Bears game. Right,

692
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 6: just it's it's it's not right. And I think the

693
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: college college football needs to compress their playoff calendar. They

694
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 6: need to start it earlier. They probably need to start

695
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 6: the season in a week earlier, so we can compress

696
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 6: this thing down to January tenth, because I know we

697
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: had Ohio I always say that. I think I've said

698
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 6: it on your show. High State, Notre Dame. We're playing

699
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 6: on Labor Day or National Championship game, and those are

700
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: two of the biggest brands possible, And the first three

701
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 6: segments on you know sports TV then that morning were

702
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 6: Bills and Ravens fallout from the ORFC divisional playoffs, And

703
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: of course I just don't think it's wise to go

704
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 6: head to head against the NFL postseason.

705
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: I agree, and I also think it's that it's not

706
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: wise for the NFL to undercut the best minor league

707
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: in the history of the world. Shadoor Sanders has the

708
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: number one selling jersey in the NFL. Why because he's

709
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 2: a no commodity. When we drafted Baker, when he drafted Johnny,

710
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: they had the number one jerseys in the NFL. Why

711
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: because you all knew who they were. This isn't the NBA.

712
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Where on the other than last night, where you get

713
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg, the majority of the time you don't even

714
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: know these guys you're drafting. I mean, the number two

715
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: pick in the NBA draft and the thirty pick are

716
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: gonna be two kids from Rutgers. They even make the tournament,

717
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: nobody really knows who they are. That's not the case

718
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: in the NFL. You're getting Joe Burrow ready made. If

719
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: you're Cincinnati, he's a ready made star. Everybody knows who

720
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: he is, So I just to me college football, Yes,

721
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: and I've laid out my plan for this a bunch.

722
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: College Football's got a start a week earlier. They can

723
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: be done by the first Monday in January after New

724
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. That's very easy. Play the semifinals on New

725
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: Year's Eve, new Year's Day, very easy, get it compressed.

726
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the NFL in exchange for

727
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: doing that, the NFL ought to give college football those

728
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: saturdays in December. That to me is a that should

729
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: be a fair trade, easy.

730
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 6: Compromise too, because you know, I didn't watch a play

731
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 6: of in Houston last year.

732
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 7: I think I was between, you know, driving getting ready

733
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 7: for that Ohio State Tennessee game and Texas and Clemson

734
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 7: was on. And didn't watch much of the Steelers Ravens

735
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 7: game either, but not because I didn't want to.

736
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 6: I want to watch those games because they're important to

737
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: the playoff race. And I think, you know, like you said,

738
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: the NFL step and take a step back there. And

739
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 6: I know we're all excited about the schedule. I liked

740
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 6: the schedule release in a meeting this morning at Sporting News,

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 6: and there are mixed opinions about it how they do it,

742
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 6: but I actually enjoy it. I think it's cool to

743
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 6: see it for the first time. I think the NFL,

744
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 6: you know, you know what I said, though, I was like,

745
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 6: as a green Bay guy, a fan, I said, the

746
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 6: two things I looked for with the schedule are one,

747
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 6: I hope they're not playing on the holidays because I

748
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 6: don't want my in laws to witness my behavior during

749
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 6: those games. And two, you know, I wasn't mad like

750
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 6: that the Viking two games overseas like they can have

751
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 6: to in Europe. That's fine. I never want green Bay

752
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: to play over there.

753
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you do not. Hey, you mentioned all

754
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: of the things we have similar. Your son he wears

755
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: thirty two in basketball, right, did I see that?

756
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: Right?

757
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: My oldest war's thirty two. My oldest wear's seventeen in lacrosse.

758
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 2: And I thought I s over the weekend. Your son

759
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: wears seventeen in lacrosse.

760
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 6: So he does. And it's a funny story. He you know,

761
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 6: green Bay again, he was a dvante. So he likes

762
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 6: Cleveland Sports, he likes the Guardians, he likes the Calves. Yeah, Packers,

763
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 6: So it's a little bit of a mix. And so

764
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 6: he was a Lindor guy. Lindor got traded. He was

765
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 6: a Lebron guy. Obviously Lebron's gone maybe comes back to

766
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: who knows. And he was a DeVante Adams fan. So

767
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, that's sports. At least you

768
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: understand that. But that, you know what, they had a

769
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 6: really good weekend of lacrosse, made the Summis in the

770
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 6: middle school tournament, got beat by Cincinnati School. That was

771
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: really tough. But as you know, as somebody that's on

772
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 6: the lacrosse fields a lot in the summer in the spring,

773
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 6: and it's catching on in Ohio, it is. And I

774
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: don't just say that as because my kid's playing it.

775
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 6: You can just see it.

776
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's changed a lot. Have

777
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: you Has he watched Young Guns with you yet?

778
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 6: Yeah? He's gotten through one. We've got to watch two,

779
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 6: which we haven't mind been running so much. We haven't

780
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 6: got to two yet, and uh, you know a few

781
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 6: lines off that, Oh yeah, come on, you know. Of

782
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 6: course he liked it. He liked he likes Young Guns,

783
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: he likes Top Gun. We got through We're Gladiator he

784
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: enjoyed as well, which was really good. But I watched

785
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 6: Gladiator too, didn't like it as much. He hasn't seen

786
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 6: that one with me yet.

787
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: Was he surprised that you could still recite every line

788
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: from Young Guns because mine was surprised I could still

789
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: recite the whole movie right well, and.

790
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 6: Then we did Tombstone when Val died.

791
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was.

792
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 6: He was getting annoyed that I was, like, say, before

793
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: they happened. He was getting mad that I was like

794
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 6: quoting or Russell and Val before it happened to you

795
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: have dad, Can you let me watch the movie?

796
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: All right?

797
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Buddy good, catch it up with you as always my friend.

798
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 6: Be well, well, no problem, thanks for having me on.

799
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,200
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Speaker 2: Cleveland brown Sports World, had a lot going on. The

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks had a one point eight percent chance of

816
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: winning the NBA Draft Lottery, and they did so.

817
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 5: But when it's rigged, I said a chance.

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Speaker 2: We were on a text chain last night. I went straight.

819
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: I think that's obvious. Clearly they traded Luca. Okay, they

820
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: traded Luke to La without opening up the bidding.

821
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Speaker 5: Correct.

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00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: Now, even as I go into conspiracy bow, I acknowledge

823
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: that it feels like it's impossible to do something like

824
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: this to rig a lottery. It feels like the amount

825
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: of and I remember the various stories from the folks

826
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: have been on the Calves beat through the years of

827
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: the various and the Caves have won it a lot

828
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: but the times the Calves have won the Draft lottery,

829
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: and like everything that goes into it, because there were

830
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: the same people who when Lebron left and we won

831
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: the draft lottery and got Kyrie the next time around,

832
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 2: and it was like, well that's rigged, and so there

833
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: was that. There's been talk of it being rigged for

834
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing in nineteen eighty five with a frozen envelope

835
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: Lebron when he came here the first time to keep

836
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 2: him home. We went over that sliding doors moment between

837
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Memphis and the Calves when they got Lebron, the fact

838
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 2: that Chris Paul left the Clippers and or left New Orleans,

839
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: they traded him to the Clippers, and then New Orleans

840
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: wins the draft lottery that gets them Anthony Davis. Then

841
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: they trade Anthony Davis to the Lakers, and then they

842
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: win the draft lottery that gets the Zion Williamson And

843
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: now you have Luca traded and Dallas winning.

844
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: It.

845
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: So funny how that works.

846
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: It's a crazy look. It's a truly crazy look.

847
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: You're a great look either.

848
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: You're sick for Washington and Charlotte and Utah. Do you

849
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: know in their history, Utah has never moved up in

850
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: the draft. Yeah, they've never moved up. Not once you're in.

851
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 5: Utah That's why I guess.

852
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: I guess from the league perspective, it feels like kind

853
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: of a home run to have him in Like it's

854
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: a great market, it's a winning franchise, new ownership, so

855
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: you know there's a little bit of that, but same

856
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 2: house to a great GM.

857
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

858
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean if they want to, though, they could trade him.

859
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean they could trade him for Giannis if Giannis

860
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: is available, if Milwaukee wants to make him available.

861
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 5: Kind of sounds like Yiannis would like to be available.

862
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: Well he's not. He's open minded to It was the reporting,

863
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: which is, you know, I'm I'm open minded, having pizza

864
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: for dinner tonight. I don't even know what open minded means,

865
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: but he's open minded. So Dallas wins it. Then san

866
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,919
Speaker 2: Antonio's second, So one, two, three all moved up, and

867
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: the teams that were supposed to pick their Charlotte, New

868
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 2: Orleans and Washington and all moved out. The Spurs would

869
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: be the one I'd be watching for for a trade, right,

870
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: Young Brock shaking his head that to me, they're sitting

871
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: there at two overall, Like if I'm them, do I

872
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: need to add like Wemby's ready to go. I would,

873
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: and they have a ton of ones too, and a

874
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: bunch of like five future ones the next few years,

875
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: the one and then the two pick. Does that net you?

876
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 8: Like?

877
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Do are they the team that goes after Johannis?

878
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: Sure?

879
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: Yeah? It could have become a fire sale in Milwaukee.

880
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's for what's left. I mean because

881
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: Dame Dallas out probably all next year because he has

882
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: an achilles.

883
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: So I guess he has a basketball camp? Is that right?

884
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: Who does?

885
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 5: Brock told me he has a basketball camp. Lillard like

886
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 5: a youth, you know, like a kid's camp. And it's

887
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: a picture of him and there's no logo on any

888
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: of his stuff. Now that could be because there's some

889
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: kind of copyright issue or something conflict of interest with

890
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: the team, but him not wearing any of his Bucks

891
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 5: stuff and no mention of Milwaukee Bucks. Yeah, is a

892
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 5: little eyebrow raising. I just I thought it was amazing,

893
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: Like every NBA player last night.

894
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

895
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: On social media, Kyrie Irving one point eight percent laughing emoji,

896
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 5: laughing emoji. Yeah, Tristan Thompson, I believe I had this. Yeah,

897
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 5: like everybody knew.

898
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy if you're a hint like he

899
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: will do well on the field, on the court, and

900
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: off in Dallas. It's about as big a win, I

901
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: think as you could get. Like if you think of

902
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: the teams in the mix cities, to live in Dallas Philly,

903
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: maybe you'd rather go to San Antonio and play with Wemby,

904
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: But Dallas is a better city than San Antonio for sure.

905
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: So that's a that's a that's a big win for

906
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: him either way. The other thing that happened in the

907
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: Association last night was the Knicks defeating the Celtics. They

908
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: go up three to one. Were you watching when the

909
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: Tatum injury happened.

910
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: No, I didn't watch any of it last night. I

911
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 5: was h first night to actually get some stuff done

912
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 5: around my house. I was out in the yard working

913
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: till late, and I just kind of came in and crashed.

914
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: And then this morning found out all that went down

915
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: with Celtics.

916
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: Got Nick, We had got home, Beamsy had a lacrosse game,

917
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: the other two had practice. By the time I got

918
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: home from that, I flipped it on. It was in

919
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, competitive game. I think the Knicks are

920
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: going to win anyway. Quite honestly, they were going to

921
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: win anyway. But I was watching when the Tatum injury happened,

922
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: and I mean, it looks like an achilles. I don't

923
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: know what else it could be. I mean, that's usually

924
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: the reaction you get on an achilles, is the reaction

925
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: that he had. Obviously, it feels like it's incredibly severe,

926
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: and then that changes the trajectory not only of the

927
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: series because you know, he's the best player in the

928
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: series arguably, but also kind of their trajectory as a

929
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: franchise because now you're one year out. I mean, we're

930
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: dealing with this with Deshaun now, Like it's not until

931
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: December of twenty twenty five when he can start to

932
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: begin doing anything, but it won't be till January twenty sixth,

933
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: so the same would be true here. It's a full

934
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: year on that for Tatum.

935
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: We have not seen a tremendous amount of success with

936
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 5: players coming back in any sport from achilles.

937
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: No. I mean it's yeah, you can. Kobe did, yeah,

938
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: but was not but he was aging too. I mean,

939
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Tatum's still relatively young. Adrian Peterson's the best example of

940
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: it going well, where he came back in then at

941
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: a two thousand yard season, so you can do it.

942
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: But that's what that one looked like to me, the war.

943
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: But it's interesting. I didn't realize how long Jason Tatum

944
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 5: has been in the NBA.

945
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, since like seventeen or eighteen, right, I think it's.

946
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 5: Longer than that. Sixteen sixteen sixteen. Yeah, he was with

947
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 5: Grayson Allen at Duke.

948
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: He was a freshman.

949
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 5: Because Brock was like, don't you remember him? And I'm like,

950
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 5: you don't remember him at Duke?

951
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: No, really no memory, mostly because the Lakers picked Lonzo

952
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: Ball over him.

953
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. I remember him being at Duke, but nothing earth shattering,

954
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 5: and part of it probably was the fact that Grayson

955
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: Allen was there.

956
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: He was a hard I mean, he ended up going third.

957
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: He's only twenty seven. He only ended up going third

958
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: in that draft. He did have a foot injury, that's right.

959
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: He missed the first part of that season, so he

960
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: had that foot injury, and then he was really good

961
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: the rest of the way.

962
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah. He averaged almost seventeen a game in college, seven

963
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 5: rebounds to assist.

964
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

965
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 5: Just I'm like, did they have a quick exit that

966
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: I don't remember? Maybe who went.

967
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: First in that draft? Lonzo went second. Two Rocks looking

968
00:47:52,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: it up, got it for you, Simmons, Ben Simmons, Oh no, no, no,

969
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: that's sixteen. Hold on, hold on, hold on, that's sixteen draft.

970
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: He's in the seventeen.

971
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 5: Is that Markel Foltz. Yeah. Yeah.

972
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: So the Celtics in sixteen they drafted Jalen Brown, so

973
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: it went figure. Ben Simmons went one, Brandon Ingram two

974
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: to the Lakers, and then Jalen Brown went three. That

975
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: was one, two, three, and sixteen, and then twenty seventeen

976
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: would have been the Tatum Draft.

977
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 5: I just I can't. I guess I didn't realize he

978
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: was that old.

979
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, just twenty seven, but he's eight years

980
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: in the league.

981
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

982
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 2: So anyway, that was that was tough to watch. Feels

983
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: like the Celtics will uh and then we've got a

984
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: Game five here tonight, obviously, which is critical.

985
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: Donovan's going to play.

986
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: I mean we know that he's getting shots up and

987
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: he's going.

988
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 5: To give the go they win tonight.

989
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to win three in a row.

990
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't think, but I do think.

991
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if you can do that. I

992
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: just don't. I mean, it is clear they are not

993
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: matching up well.

994
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: And they're not healthy injuries or just I mean yeah,

995
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: I mean like you know, we can have some fun

996
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: with hey good out there and play, but like the

997
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: these are real issues. I mean like you're talking about

998
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: dislocated thumb for Hunter and you think of I mean,

999
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: Darius is playing, but he obviously doesn't have his quickness

1000
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: that he normally has and Mobiley's limping around. So it's

1001
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 2: just it's just bad luck.

1002
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 6: Man.

1003
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: It's funny I would say this, and I have no

1004
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: scientific evidence to back this up. I don't have about

1005
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: doctor Vuss here with UH, but I just the amount

1006
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: of like catastrophic or borderline injuries that we're seeing in

1007
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: the NBA. I mean it happens all the time. Durant

1008
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: with an achilles not that long ago. We've had so

1009
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: many of these staff with a hamstring. Like it's kind

1010
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: of like who can get to the finals healthy? Look

1011
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: at the four Lebron runs. How many of those were

1012
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: healthy the first time around? It was him stand Kyrie

1013
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 2: was done, Kevin Love was done, like they were all

1014
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: done for the year stuff. And I we talked about

1015
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: this with doctor Zeus. One of the remotes we did

1016
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: out at UH and one of the things we talked

1017
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: about was like, tendons are tendons, like all of this,

1018
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: all of these muscles are more fine tune than they've

1019
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: ever been, and you can't fine tune attendem. Just is

1020
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: what it is. And I do wonder if there's something

1021
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: to it, because there is such a rash of achilles

1022
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: issues in sports right now. It's crazy.

1023
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 5: So here's my here's my little conspiracy question. Speaking of conspiracies. Yeah,

1024
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 5: we seeing all these injuries in postseason because these guys

1025
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 5: have been on pitch counts for the entire last seven months.

1026
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, could be. I mean, I mean that too.

1027
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: They did a point like we were gonna you know,

1028
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 5: we're watching the minutes these guys are playing during the

1029
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 5: regular season games and we're we're you know, the goal

1030
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: is to maximize them in the playoffs. Yeah, then now

1031
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you're asking them and their bodies

1032
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: to do a lot more, play more, and I know

1033
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 5: there's more days off in between and things like that,

1034
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 5: but I don't is that a possibility.

1035
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: There's been I'll just say this and again, not a doctor.

1036
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: Did I go to bed school or even stay at

1037
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: a hotel? Near a doctor last night. But what I

1038
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: would say is it appears that there is no correlation

1039
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: between rest in the regular season or in the case

1040
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: of the NFL, light rest in training camp and not

1041
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: having injuries. It feels like it's the same, if not worse. Now.

1042
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: It's circumstantial because we're comparing it to the circumstances we're in.

1043
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: But I don't see anything in the data that leads

1044
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: me to believe we're healthier in the postseason now than

1045
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: we were thirty years ago in the NBA. No, just

1046
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 2: don't so. And the same thing with the NFL, with

1047
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: all of the easing of all of the training camps

1048
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: and just wading into it rest days, all of this

1049
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to translate to healthier teams now. Campbell went

1050
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: the other way and they had a rash of injuries

1051
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: at the NLS season in Detroit. So maybe just injuries

1052
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: happen now more than they did in year past. I

1053
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: don't know. I do stand by that theory though, that

1054
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: the muscles are being trained at such a quick twitch

1055
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: rate and so often not rested the tendons can't handle them.

1056
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: That's that's my theory. On the Achilles who knows if

1057
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: there's anything to it.

1058
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be fast. I mean that they're they're franchise.

1059
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 5: Everybody in Boston holding their breath here this morning, Oh

1060
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 5: my gosh.

1061
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely should be a fun one to night at downtown.

1062
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 6: Though.

1063
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: My hunch is that they I'm with you, I think

1064
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: they take care of business.

1065
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 5: Way they get in price. Uh intern Gabe Newly here

1066
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 5: thirty bucks in the upper deck, Dude, I'm telling you

1067
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 5: that you can get in a night for I'm telling

1068
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: you I think.

1069
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: That there is a choose my words carefully here. I

1070
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: think that because of Lebron, we're to the point, like

1071
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: the Cavs fan is to a point where like if

1072
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: you're not a championship contender, we're not interested.

1073
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: Or you're not to like the conference finals.

1074
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I think, because I mean the tickets

1075
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: would that would what was that in sixteen seventeen, that

1076
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: those years when Lebron is here second time, you're not

1077
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: walking in the door for a game like this for

1078
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 2: thirty bucks, No, no chance. But there is this sense

1079
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: of like, Okay, we're banged up and we're not going

1080
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: to win it anyway, so what are we going to

1081
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: show up for? That you can sense that.

1082
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling you, if you're a basketball fan, you

1083
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: can get into that game tonight.

1084
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,920
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Speaker 2: program coming up next. The NFL schedule madness is upon us.

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Speaker 2: Seeing this in the last couple of minutes, the NFL

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Speaker 2: today announced that YouTube will stream the Friday night week

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 2: one game of the twenty twenty five season in Sapolo

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00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: on September fifth, to a worldwide audience on YouTube and

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Speaker 2: YouTube TV, the first exclusive NFL game to be stream

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00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: live and for free in its entirety on YouTube. Somehow,

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00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: they act like that's a win for all of you.

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00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: It's always like it's a temporary win for you, but

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Speaker 2: eventually it's going to be it's gonna cost you.

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Speaker 5: So I would I would assume that maybe that announcement

1110
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 5: will then lead to the who the Chargers play in

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00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: Week one in South Polo?

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00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: How is it?

1113
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's Kansas City, right? Doesn't everybody know that?

1114
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: That's everyone said it, like it's fact that I'm like,

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00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: oh that was the case.

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00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 5: There's been no formal announcement. No, I know that, And

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00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 5: I think there was no formal announcement because of the

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00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 5: fact they didn't have a deal done with YouTube.

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00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: Oh you think that's it? It could be, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody seems to know that it's Kansas City going down there.

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Speaker 5: I thought that we talked about that on the show.

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00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: How did It Go? We'd have to talk somebody from Philly, like,

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Speaker 2: how did that go? Last year in South Polo? Like

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00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: that game came and went I don't even remember watching

1125
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: it that closely. I remember it was on.

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 5: I think both teams got in and got out as

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00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: quickly as possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't I can't remember who they played, Philly

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00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: play Green Bay. It's going to be us. Yeah, you know.

1130
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: It was one of those. It was the It was

1131
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: like the second or third high school football Friday night,

1132
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: and I remember going to like our local high school

1133
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: game and then it was going on. I watched the

1134
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: end of it when I got home, but I don't

1135
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: remember like seeking it out, So I don't know they're

1136
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: doing a lot. It was.

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 5: It was Peacock.

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: Was it Peacock? Last year?

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 5: It was Peacock because NBC had Night One on Thursday night,

1140
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 5: they have that to kick off the season, and then

1141
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 5: they had they had they because really I think Peacock

1142
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 5: and NBC were the ones that were like, hey, we

1143
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 5: need a match up. Yeah, like at that point, we

1144
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 5: didn't know who our quarterback was going to be. We

1145
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: didn't know if DeShawn was healthy or what the status was.

1146
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 5: So I mean, I'm a firm believer. The NBC stepped

1147
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 5: in and said, we need something if we're gonna put

1148
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: this on Peacock that is a known.

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00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Because didn't they go They went Thursday Friday Sunday first weekend,

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00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: and then they then the next Thursday, the Sunday what

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00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: Eagle it was there was it was no Eagle and

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00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Todd Blackledge, Yeah, and Tariko did Thursday and Sunday. But Thursday,

1153
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: Thursday was collins or Sunday was not Thursday might have

1154
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: been Jason Garrett. Yeah, I think I think Collinsworth did

1155
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: the the opener the Kansas City whoever they played, and

1156
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: then and it.

1157
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 5: Was a weather delay was yeah, right in Kansas City.

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you try to juggle all of those things.

1159
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: So you're gonna, we believe it'll be the Chiefs will

1160
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: be Chiefs Chargers and sell Pollo on that Friday.

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Speaker 5: Then it's a divisional game. Yeah, yes, these divisional games

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 5: that will be playing neutral sites. I can't imagine the

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00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 5: home team is or who is considered the home team,

1164
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 5: is happy about giving up their home game against a

1165
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 5: divisional opponent.

1166
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 2: No, and I cannot imagine. I just think the NFL

1167
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: is so bold right now in what it's doing with

1168
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: the schedule, and it's the behemoth, so it ought to be.

1169
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: So you've got that game on the fifth in Brazil.

1170
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: Then on September twenty eighth Viking Steelers. That game's in Dublins.

1171
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: The Vikes will go over and play that game, then

1172
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: will play US the fifth in London at Tottenham Hops

1173
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: for Then on October twelfth the Broncos and Jets are

1174
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: at Tottenham Stadium in London, and then on the nineteenth

1175
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: of October they're Wembley for Rams at Jaguars. And then

1176
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: Sunday the ninth it is Falcons Colts in Berlin, and

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Speaker 2: then the sixteenth it's Kami's and Dolphins in Madrid at

1178
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: Santiago Bernabaya. Oh, the real Madrid Stadium, which is probably

1179
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: the most technologically advanced stadium on the planet. Yes, that

1180
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: place is unbelievable, so that it'll be the first NFL

1181
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: game played there, That is on November sixteenth, so they

1182
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: cut down.

1183
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 5: I thought there were two games last year in Berlin,

1184
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 5: and I thought there were two this year too, But

1185
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 5: there's only one obviously.

1186
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: Well last year was it at Munich? Didn't they have

1187
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: one in Munich last year? Yeah, Hoff would know for sure,

1188
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: but I thought they had a Munich game last year,

1189
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: and this year they're going to Berlin. I don't know

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: those stadiums. Obviously, Alians is where Bayern Munich plays. That's

1191
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: in Munich, and I assume that I know that place

1192
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: is first class. I'm not sure about the Berlin situation

1193
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 2: from a stadium standpoint. Some other games that we know.

1194
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: On Thursday, September fourth, the league will kickoff with Cowboys

1195
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: at Eagles, and then on November tenth, Eagles at Packers.

1196
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: That is an ESPN game that we know as well. Friday,

1197
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: that's Black Friday, November twenty eighth, Bears at Eagles on Prime.

1198
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: Then Saturday the twentieth, Eagles at Comi's on Fox in

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Speaker 2: the early one, and then it's Bears Packers in the

1200
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: late game on that Saturday, December twentieth. Then on Christmas

1201
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: just the one game. Is that true? Or there will

1202
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: be more?

1203
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: There will be more.

1204
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So right now it's just that Thursday night, or

1205
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: which is Broncos at Chiefs.

1206
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 5: Maybe not. I mean it's Thursday night. I would think

1207
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 5: the NFL would take full.

1208
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: So there's a lot. There's a lot going on right now.

1209
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: If you guys, if you miss my conversation with Bill Bender,

1210
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: I deal with this a lot in the mornings and

1211
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: there needs to be a common sense you scratch our

1212
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: back will scratch hers between college football and the NFL,

1213
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 2: and it is absolutely Does the NFL need to play

1214
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: December twentieth on a Saturday, No they don't. They don't

1215
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: need to do that. Does college football need to be

1216
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: crowning a national champion on January twenty seventh? Are going

1217
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: to do in twenty twenty seven? No they don't. You

1218
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: can compress that college football schedule, you stay out of

1219
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: the way of the NFL. Meantime, the NFL stays off

1220
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: of Saturdays in December, which allows for college football to

1221
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: have that time to crown its champion, and in exchange,

1222
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: the NFL has the best minor league system in the world,

1223
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: where ready made stars come into your league, draftable and

1224
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: ready to go. So to me, just some common sense

1225
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: there solves it.

1226
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 5: On December twentieth, that's a triple header.

1227
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Oh, NFL, it's a triple header, just

1228
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: double oh? No, triple Oh he added a third game

1229
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: last year he only played two.

1230
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, nope, we're playing three. Oh wow.

1231
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,919
Speaker 2: So they're going head to head in the against college football, yeah,

1232
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: because then why are they trying to cut off the

1233
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: head of college football. I don't know.

1234
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 5: And then the twenty seventh, two days after Christmas is

1235
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 5: Saturday Night football on Peacock Saturday Night NFL, so maybe, okay,

1236
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 5: maybe hold on, I take that back. The twentieth is

1237
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 5: a doubleheader on Fox.

1238
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 2: So that is what they did last year. They played

1239
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: a double header, and then Ohio State Tennessee was so.

1240
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, right now, that's a double header on the twentieth.

1241
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 5: But the twenty seventh, Saturday, the twenty seventh, Peacock they

1242
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 5: and we had it yesterday I think on the show Rundown.

1243
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: I don't know if we got to it though. The

1244
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 5: Peacock's got in week seventeen, a Saturday Night NFL game

1245
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 5: on Peacock.

1246
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 2: On the twenty seventh.

1247
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I still have the release, all right,

1248
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 5: So the dates, Yeah, the opponent's TBD, but.

1249
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: All right, So college football is going to do their

1250
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: home sites that first round home sites will all be

1251
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: on the twentieth, So this is on college football too.

1252
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 2: They don't need to have this pushback as far as

1253
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 2: it is. They can get going right away and solve

1254
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: a lot of this. So they're not going to play

1255
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: until they'll play the last weekend in December or first

1256
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: week in December. Then they're off until the twentieth where

1257
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: they play the home dates. Then college football will go

1258
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: on one game New Year's Eve, three on New Year's

1259
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: Day in the quarterfinals. Then the playoffs. Semifinals in college

1260
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 2: football are Thursday and Friday nights Thursday and Friday night

1261
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: January eighth and ninth. The National Championship game is Monday,

1262
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: January nintheenth. And that's the one that Fine Bomb always

1263
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: talks about. Like everyone's talking about the divisional round. They're

1264
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: not even It's Ohio State, Notre Dame, and no one's

1265
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: even prepping it as they're talking about the divisional round.

1266
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. So NBC did announce yesterday it will host a

1267
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 5: week seventeen streaming exclusive game on Peacock, which will put

1268
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 5: the game smack in the middle of the Christmas in

1269
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 5: New Year's holidays, Saturday, December twenty seventh.

1270
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I don't know. Just work together. You're the

1271
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: two most popular sports in the country.

1272
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 5: No one works together anyway.

1273
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 2: I just work together a little bit. Total miles traveled

1274
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: leaders are the two LA teams for the twenty five

1275
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: to twenty six season.

1276
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 5: The Chargers.

1277
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: In the Rams, Rams thirty four thousand miles traveled for games,

1278
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: the Chargers thirty seven thousand miles for games. How about

1279
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: the Bengals just eighty seven hundred miles traveled for Cincinnati.

1280
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 5: I think if we were going to London, we'd be

1281
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 5: we'd be right there being with Cincinnati for that.

1282
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're at fifteen thousand, which is still bottom

1283
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: third of the league. When when all things are considered,

1284
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 2: all right, there you go with your schedule, are full

1285
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: schedules tomorrow right tomorrow.

1286
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 5: Night, Tomorrow night at eight o'clock. There you go.

1287
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: All right, we will uh Trey Henderson was down in Cincinnati.

1288
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: We will have some of that reaction for you for

1289
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: what was a pretty surreal day down there. We'll get

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Speaker 2: Pretty surreal day down in Cincinnati today. They're in involuntary

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Speaker 2: workouts and the way that they're setup is it's impossible

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Speaker 2: to hide anything because if you've not seen this there's

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Speaker 2: It would be as if our guys practiced outside across

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Speaker 2: the street from the stadium. So imagine like where the

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Speaker 2: space the Science Center is. Imagine if we had a

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Speaker 2: practice field there and in order to get from our

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Speaker 2: locker rooms in the stadium to the practice field, you

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Speaker 2: had to cross the street. That's Cincinnati. Their stadium's in downtown.

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Speaker 2: The practic facilities right next door. It's across the street though,

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Speaker 2: so it is impossible for a player to go from

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Speaker 2: the locker room to the practice field and not be noticed,

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Speaker 2: even if even if it's closed to the media. So

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Speaker 2: they put these petitions. I mean, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: My guess is like since an age is so used

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Speaker 2: to it that they don't care about it. Because it's downtown,

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Speaker 2: there's probably not a lot I know, there's not a

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Speaker 2: lot of parking there, so maybe I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: like every day you see him walking across it's what

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Speaker 2: they do. So today as there are and Joe's down

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Speaker 2: there throwing and all that stuff, you see Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: in street clothes walking from the stadium to the practice fields.

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Speaker 2: Now what we know is that he wants a new contract.

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Speaker 2: We know that they've given him permission to seek a

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Speaker 2: trade from other people. To this point there has been

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Speaker 2: no deal. So their long con in this was, we

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Speaker 2: don't think there will be the interest from in you

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Speaker 2: nationally as you think that there is to pay you

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Speaker 2: the forty that Miles got. So go ahead and see

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Speaker 2: what's out there, and we'll be here waiting if you

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Speaker 2: when you come back. Andrickson double down today. So you've

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Speaker 2: had a bunch of the sound. He had a twenty

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Speaker 2: three minute media availability, correct.

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Speaker 5: I mean in his golf attire. Look, he was getting

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Speaker 5: ready to hit the tea box at about one o'clock today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot going on.

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Speaker 5: He had released a statement yesterday saying there's been no communication.

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Speaker 5: The Bengals have basically stopped talking to me, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 5: So he went on the offensive today, showed up at

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Speaker 5: OTAs or the off season workouts. T Higgins wasn't there

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Speaker 5: after being there all last week, but Hendrickson was there

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Speaker 5: and afterward talked to the media. First question was, and

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Speaker 5: this is from Joe Deniman of Fox down in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 5: the narratives about him.

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Speaker 9: I can't control the narratives, right. I think that's one

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01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 9: thing I found through this whole process is the way

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Speaker 9: I feel is not being conveyed.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 9: I definitely am disappointed.

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Speaker 5: I definitely love Cincinnati.

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Speaker 9: So it's just this weird dilemma, right, and I think

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Speaker 9: players go through it a lot more often.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna.

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Speaker 9: Let clear overtake me to do something and also give

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Speaker 9: me a platform dlorify God and the good and in

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Speaker 9: the bag. So you know, I'm very fleshed, and so

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Speaker 9: the perspectives I can't control. I'm a football player.

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Speaker 5: Niche to play football up next, yep. Talking about the fines.

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Speaker 5: I guess Zach Taylor had texted him and said, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna be fined. He clarifies this it's for mandatory mini

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Speaker 5: camp because you can't be fined for a voluntary camp.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Yeah, and these are the this is the

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Speaker 5: fines that he's talking about. And he's not very pleased

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Speaker 5: with his head coach. The finds that.

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Speaker 9: Were communicated with me. We're talking about mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 9: That's why I said there was about twenty days until then.

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Speaker 9: I didn't understand the purpose behind shooting me a text

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Speaker 9: if we should have gone twenty five days.

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Speaker 4: But again, we can go through the process.

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Speaker 9: I probably would have been upset a day before, an

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Speaker 9: hour before, or sixty days ago. So I don't think

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Speaker 9: there's any way that would have went well. So that

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Speaker 9: was the unfortunate reason.

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Speaker 2: Under so he feels it was spiteful for Zach to

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Speaker 2: send it that far out, something that he would perhaps

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Speaker 2: probably already knew anyway that I would be suspended. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so the Bengals want to pay him. They what he's

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Speaker 2: currently under contract to pay for, and then a shorter

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Speaker 2: deal and he wants a big long term deal is

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Speaker 2: kind of the and we'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. He did say every relationship is repaarable, and he

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Speaker 5: cited what happened up here in Cleveland with our own

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Speaker 5: Miles Garrett. I think every relationship is repaarable, right that.

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Speaker 9: I think Miles Garrett proved that he's he's.

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Speaker 4: A great man, and he's done great things for his.

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Speaker 5: Family and obviously providing.

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Speaker 4: On and off the football for these tremendous.

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Speaker 9: But I think that relationship will repair with time, and

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Speaker 9: same with this. This is just the uncomfortable business side

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Speaker 9: that we've unfortunately had to deal with Phil that a

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Speaker 9: couple of years, and quite frankly, I think we're all spend.

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Speaker 5: Maybe and then here's the long one. This is not

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Speaker 5: seeing eye to eye and this is what's going on

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Speaker 5: in his talks with the Bengals.

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Speaker 9: We're just not seeing eye to eye on the structure.

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Speaker 9: It seems that a shorter deal is something that they

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Speaker 9: are pushing pretty hard. That puts us in the same

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Speaker 9: place I was in twenty twenty two where I have

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Speaker 9: to renegotiate the next year because if goals are the same,

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Speaker 9: we're playing at a better level than I did last year,

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Speaker 9: then next year we're just kicking the game down the road.

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Speaker 9: So it's something where I think both parties should understand

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Speaker 9: that a long term contract the guarantees that know that

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Speaker 9: I could continue to play at the level and I

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Speaker 9: have them as a mutual respect where that's where my

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Speaker 9: values lie. And it also allows me to stop having

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Speaker 9: to negotiate every off season about something that has been

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Speaker 9: almost four years of doing.

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Speaker 2: Are you willing to sit out regular season games? You like,

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Speaker 2: if it came to that, something you feel like you

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Speaker 2: might have to do to try to it came to that,

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Speaker 2: you can really do that.

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Speaker 9: Well, I can raise the hypothetical with a hypothetical, I

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Speaker 9: wouldn't be standing here with you if I got the

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Speaker 9: deal in January, you know, So to say I'm gonna

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Speaker 9: sit out or just say I'm not going to what

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Speaker 9: I can say is I'm very disappointed with the communication

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Speaker 9: that's been had.

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Speaker 4: It's very.

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Speaker 9: Former players have walked.

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Speaker 4: Into their shoes and what it foreshadows.

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Speaker 9: It's not something that I'm excited about to tell my

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Speaker 9: wife and family, like, hey, this is getting good vibe

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Speaker 9: to it.

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Speaker 4: Should be happy.

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Speaker 9: Those comments stink, you know, And you know that that's

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Speaker 9: what makes this place so special is that they watched

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Speaker 9: me every day. They see how hard I work. There's

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Speaker 9: no other organization knows me better than this one. The

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Speaker 9: watch an individual, They see how I carry myself as

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Speaker 9: a human being, and they know me. So it stinks

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Speaker 9: when the value somewhere else. Because I was fortunate enough

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Speaker 9: to have that trade with West. Granted, whether it was one, two,

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Speaker 9: three first round picks, I had no idea. Gave me

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Speaker 9: the fortunate circumstance to see my value at elsewhere, and

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Speaker 9: I'm hoping it.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't come up.

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Speaker 2: This is what's really I think this is what's hard

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Speaker 2: for fans and situations like this. And we dealt with

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Speaker 2: this with Miles and thankfully it all worked out. But

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson is under contract this year. Yeah, he signed

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Speaker 2: on the line which is dotted, and that deal was

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Speaker 2: for four years and sixty million. The signing bonus was ten.

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Speaker 2: It was sixteen guaranteedic signing by the time that he

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Speaker 2: signed this. This isn't a ten year old contract. This is

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Speaker 2: what it is now. I understand that NFL players have

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Speaker 2: one chance at leverage, and it's it is usually right

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Speaker 2: before the last year. So this is his That's what

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Speaker 2: he's trying to do is leverage. And yeah, the market

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Speaker 2: for somebody of his talent is far more than the

1451
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Speaker 2: eighteen point six he's gonna sign this year. But fans

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Speaker 2: are saying, well, hold on a second. In my job,

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Speaker 2: I can't just quit in the middle of it and

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Speaker 2: say I'm owed more. What do you mean you've signed

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Speaker 2: the deal, you agreed to the deal. If I do that,

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Speaker 2: they'll let me walk. Well, these it's different. It's apples

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Speaker 2: and avocago. Avocado's a little bit in the sense that

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a professional athlete and there's a

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Speaker 2: premium on this. But I think this is why this

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Speaker 2: stuff's hard for fans. It's hard for fans because fans,

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Speaker 2: just if you're a Cincinnti Bengals fan, you just want

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Speaker 2: all the best players that you've drafted or acquired to

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Speaker 2: be on the field. And you're gonna have Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have Higgins, You're gonna burrow my hunches. They

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Speaker 2: get this done too, but it's one of those things

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Speaker 2: where he cylinder contract for this year.

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Speaker 5: But here it's hard.

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Speaker 2: That part of it. I don't know. There's no easy

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Speaker 2: way to do this.

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Speaker 5: The problem I have, and the pushback on that is

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Speaker 5: if indeed the Bengals promised him something, they promise him

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Speaker 5: that they would redo it, and now they're you know,

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Speaker 5: going back on that, maybe because they had to pay

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Speaker 5: for the other the two wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't you remember Jamar last year in camp when

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Speaker 2: he was you know, participate member. He would walk on

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Speaker 2: and then leave, yep, not in gear like he'd wear

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Speaker 2: street clothes and he'd leave. And then he said, they

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Speaker 2: told me that they were going to get me an extension,

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Speaker 2: and then they didn't. And he's like, this is not

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Speaker 2: the first time. This was not the first time. No,

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Speaker 2: and they're notorious for doing this type of stuff and

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01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 2: handling things in this way. But I do think at

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Speaker 2: the same time, my hunch is this will get sorted out,

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Speaker 2: and I bet they get a deal done. That's at least.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all in. There is all in as

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Speaker 2: can be.

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Speaker 5: This is it like it's a win now down there?

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Speaker 2: How old is Burrows? Older than you think too? He's

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. He's still in the prime of his career obviously,

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Speaker 2: but he is probably they made the playoffs, Yeah, for

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Speaker 2: sure he was. He'll be twenty nine in December, so

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Speaker 2: it is it is a right now time to go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And it was a chaser in their prime. It's time

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Speaker 2: to go, you know.

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Speaker 5: If indeed the Bengals promised Hendrickson something and then Hendrickson

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Speaker 5: goes out and leads the NFL in sacks and then

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Speaker 5: comes back and says all right, like, what are we doing? Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 5: in fairness, you're probably not going to get a long

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Speaker 5: term deal because thirty to forty million a year you

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Speaker 5: can't do it that. Bengals can't do it with the

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Speaker 5: other guys under contract. So yeah, you're going to get

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Speaker 5: a short term deal. It's gonna be worth your while

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Speaker 5: from a financial standpoint, It'll say. And he's already I

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Speaker 5: would say, he's probably already set up for life with

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Speaker 5: a sixty million dollars contraight, But.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't know right now. It's voluntary, This wouldn't be

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Speaker 5: a story. Just don't come, I'll see it. Mandatory mini camp.

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01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I've never seen anybody do this,

1511
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: like go to an involuntary mini camp and then press

1512
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: and hold a press conference.

1513
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 5: And now like did the Bengals PR staff set up

1514
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: the presser or did he?

1515
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: I guess he did. Don't you think I just walked.

1516
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 5: Over and started imagine Bengals want that.

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01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think they would want that. But

1518
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: that goes back to what I was saying, because of

1519
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: their setup, you can't hide. Yeah, Like if that happened

1520
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: here and a player came here to get attention, say

1521
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: I want a new deal. And they went to practice

1522
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 2: if the practice was closed like today's are they practicing today?

1523
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: They practiced yesterday.

1524
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, Monday through Thursdays, Monday through Thursday.

1525
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: But the practice are closed, right, the involuntary stuff so right,

1526
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: like you'd never know, but when you walk across the street,

1527
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: you can't hide, you know. Yeah, absolutely, I don't know.

1528
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: So that is that was some some newsy stuff, certainly

1529
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,719
Speaker 2: to see what happened down there. One of the guys

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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: we paid very close attention to this past weekend was

1531
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: Mason Graham. He was the fifth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: defensive tackle out of Michigan, Mason Graham at the post Maison,

1546
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: what do you think the message was for the weekend

1547
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: delivered by the coaches or are.

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 5: They're looking for out of those guys?

1549
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 4: You know, obviously, you know we just learned it.

1550
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,879
Speaker 8: We just came in, so you know, they'reking some mistakes,

1551
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 8: but you know, I just want us to play hard

1552
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 8: and you know, try to learn the technique and the

1553
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 8: defense as best we can in the small weekend and

1554
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 8: then we'll just pick right back up with the team

1555
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 8: when we get there.

1556
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: Would you come stay after.

1557
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 4: Going to camp or yeah?

1558
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 9: Is what do you think the anticipate Maybe the biggest

1559
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 9: challenge will be from transitioning into the self for college.

1560
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 4: I would just say that the play style.

1561
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like the Browns played different play

1562
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 8: style than I played at Michigan, so kind of just

1563
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 8: adjusting to more of the attack front defense and you know,

1564
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 8: kind of more penetrating than you know, playing lateral, which

1565
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 8: I did in college.

1566
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 10: I know it's really But have.

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: You gravitated towards anyone, any of the Vets kind of

1568
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 2: taking you on the winning coaches, maybe.

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01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 8: Even a fellow ream Yeah, I mean I haven't seen

1570
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 8: some of the Vets. I saw Miles like walking around

1571
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 8: or whatever. I think he was working out. But there's

1572
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 8: some other guys we just signed Ralph. Ralph is here,

1573
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 8: so he's kind of been here since January, so he's

1574
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 8: kind of teaching me what he's he's seen since he's

1575
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 8: been here. But yeah, just the other rookies, all the

1576
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 8: guys here, and then just get get to meet everyone.

1577
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 4: I mean.

1578
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 10: And the last time we talked to you, the draft

1579
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 10: obviously wasn't finished yet. These guys hadn't taken Sanders. So

1580
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 10: what was your reaction to defining out he was gonna

1581
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 10: be your teammate and just meeting him your first impressions?

1582
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was cool.

1583
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 8: You know, I met him the other day for the

1584
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 8: first time, and you know, seems like a good dude,

1585
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 8: and you know, it was all about ball.

1586
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: So I'm I want to play with the guys that

1587
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 4: you know, I.

1588
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 11: Like minded Mason, you don't seem like someone who cares

1589
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 11: about the fact that Shador is kind of stealing the spotlight.

1590
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 11: You're a little over the first round pick of the

1591
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 11: football team. But what is your sort of response or

1592
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 11: reaction to the fact that he's kind of got all

1593
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,920
Speaker 11: the all the media attention so far.

1594
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 8: I mean, that doesn't really matter to me. You know,

1595
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 8: I'm I come to play football. If the media is

1596
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 8: on me, then they're on me. If the media is not,

1597
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 8: then you know it's not I'm just gonna do my

1598
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 8: job at the end of the day.

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01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 4: But I think you.

1600
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 5: Talked about meet Jack coach Jack throughout the process. What

1601
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 5: was that like and how did you guys kind of

1602
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 5: form that bne Can you talked about.

1603
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really cool.

1604
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 8: You know ever since my I met with him at

1605
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 8: the combine and I carc you know, the energy he has.

1606
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 8: He's the guy that has a lot of energy and

1607
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 8: always brings every day. So that's someone I want to

1608
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 8: play for. And then coach Morrise to the assistant D

1609
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 8: line coach. He's helped me to just getting to know

1610
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 8: the basics and you know, just kind of getting it

1611
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 8: down and then come out here today and just put

1612
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 8: it all together.

1613
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 10: Makes walking around and getting to see Miles has that

1614
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 10: kind of suck in for you yet that you're now

1615
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 10: playing all one side.

1616
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 5: Guys like that about caliber.

1617
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like it will sync more in you know,

1618
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 8: once I get to be on the field with him

1619
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,759
Speaker 8: for the first time. But yeah, obviously a great player

1620
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 8: and excited for that makes it to be.

1621
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 9: Thought about how this scheme specifically could kind of unlock

1622
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 9: like another level for you and in your play.

1623
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, Coach Jock always talks about taking the

1624
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 8: handcuffs off. I feel like, you know, maybe in the

1625
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 8: scheme I was playing it before, I might have had

1626
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 8: handcuffs off, you know, moving more latterly. But I feel like,

1627
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 8: you know, Coach Jock and Coach Morse, you know, this

1628
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 8: attacking front will help me and you know, unleash some

1629
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 8: new things in my game. And I feel like I can,

1630
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 8: you know, be a great player in this scheme.

1631
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 3: What more do you think could be un least in

1632
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: your game.

1633
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: Just making more plays?

1634
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 8: You know, in college, I didn't have these crazy stat numbers,

1635
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 8: but I just feel like playing in these in this

1636
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 8: defense is you know, more penetrating, more attacking, more ability

1637
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 8: to make more plays. It seems like generally your position

1638
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 8: used to be more of a be seeing, not heard

1639
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 8: kind of thing on the stage.

1640
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: How do you think that's evolving over time?

1641
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, people get paid by making plays,

1642
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 8: so I feel like, you know, that's what coach Jock

1643
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 8: always talks about. He wants us, you know, to get paid,

1644
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 8: just like he wants to get paid. So we're all

1645
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 8: here for one job. We want to win.

1646
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 4: And you know, yeah, what.

1647
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 5: Mean against the run?

1648
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 9: Like when you talk about getting up still against the past,

1649
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 9: but I mean Bill Kenneth were very good against the

1650
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 9: runn that Michigan, So what changes them for.

1651
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 5: You on that side?

1652
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 8: I just feel like it's just a little bit of

1653
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 8: a technique. It's just a different style. I mean obviously

1654
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 8: the same objective. You know, you want to tackle the

1655
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 8: running back, create negative plays, turnover sacks, you know all that,

1656
01:21:57,680 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 8: but it just looks different and I just need to

1657
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 8: get used that. Since you were drafted and you spent

1658
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 8: time looking at film of the Browns defense from last year, yeah,

1659
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 8: I've been watching, you know, just trying to get a

1660
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 8: you know, grasp of what it looks like, you know,

1661
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 8: when we're really in the fire. So you know, I've

1662
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 8: watched a few games, some cut ups of just how

1663
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 8: the d line plays, you know, not watching anything in specific,

1664
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 8: but just kind of watching how they play.

1665
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 4: And you know how I can see myself envisioning that.

1666
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 2: He went up against still in Gabero last year. Just

1667
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: if you had a chance to catch up with them

1668
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: over the last couple of days and moments of.

1669
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 8: Like going, yeah, I feel like Dylan's you know, one

1670
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 8: of the guys. You know, I came in here yesterday

1671
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 8: and I feel like he was one of the guys

1672
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 8: I'm closest to, you know, when we were playing each other,

1673
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 8: we were talking back and forth, having a good time. So, uh,

1674
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 8: just cool to see him again. And you know he's

1675
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 8: he played in Hawaii. My family lives in Hawaii, so

1676
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 8: that's something we talk about sometimes.

1677
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: Well, what's like going up against him in that game?

1678
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 4: It was really cool. You know.

1679
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 8: Obviously Oregon was, you know, one of the best teams there.

1680
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 8: I think they're ranked number one at the time, so

1681
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 8: it was, you know, a great team and great player

1682
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 8: that I want to play with.

1683
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 10: And it looked like from things going around on social

1684
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 10: media during the draft that guys were getting prank phone

1685
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 10: calls it looked like you got one and obviously should

1686
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 10: or got one. Just what's what's the reaction to that

1687
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 10: when when that happens to you.

1688
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: In that moment.

1689
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 8: I mean, it is what it is. You know, people

1690
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 8: are gonna, you know, be people at the end of

1691
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 8: the day. You know, if they want to do that,

1692
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 8: then you know, I've had the same I had the

1693
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 8: same number since you know, I was a little kid,

1694
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 8: So I wasn't really thinking about it, but you know,

1695
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 8: it happened, and you know we're on off of that now.

1696
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: So so that that was your phone and not an

1697
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 4: NFL phone, No, that's my phone.

1698
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: Mason.

1699
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 10: Going back to Don Gabriel real good and I mean

1700
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 10: a lot of people talk about his size.

1701
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 6: I mean he went against him.

1702
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: Did do you even notice it when you're when you're

1703
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 2: going against him?

1704
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 4: How how did you kind of overcome that? Yeah?

1705
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, I feel like he kind

1706
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 8: of embraces he's a smaller guy, and you know, he

1707
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 8: does the things he needs to do to you know,

1708
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 8: create you know, space for himself and you know, do

1709
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 8: what he does on the field. So I mean, I

1710
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 8: feel like he's been that size for a long time

1711
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 8: and he's played really well, So I don't think it's

1712
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 8: a problem.

1713
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 4: Have the Browns given.

1714
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 11: You any marching orders in terms of where they want

1715
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 11: your weight to be? Do they want you to go

1716
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 11: on some weight, on some muscle or what is the

1717
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 11: plan there?

1718
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1719
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 8: I mean my plan was, you know, always to get stronger, bigger, faster, stronger.

1720
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 8: So you know, I feel like the Browns are on

1721
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 8: you know, the same wavelength on me with that, so

1722
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 8: we're all bought in together want to get bigger, faster, stronger.

1723
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 8: But you know, there's no specific weight I need to

1724
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 8: be at. They just want me to feel best and

1725
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Speaker 8: play the best.

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Speaker 4: How about with Miles?

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Speaker 11: Will you attach yourself to his hip in terms of

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,520
Speaker 11: just the weight room stuff and all the crazy stuff.

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Speaker 8: That he can do like that? Yeah, for sure, he's

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Speaker 8: a freak and I just, you know, I want to

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01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 8: surround myself by him. And you know, he's done it

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Speaker 8: at the highest level for a long time and is

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01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 8: you know, the best at what he does.

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Speaker 4: So that's a good guy to look up to.

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Speaker 5: How'd your family wind up been a white?

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Speaker 4: Uh? They moved there after I graduated high school. Uh.

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Speaker 8: I was actually considered in considering going to Hawaii. For

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01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 8: my senior year. So but I was like, uh, I'll

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01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 8: just finish my last year in California and then you

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01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 8: guys can move after.

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Speaker 5: So have you like, have you visit him there and stuff?

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Speaker 4: Do you get better? Yeah? When I was in college, Uh,

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:00,959
Speaker 4: we had the month of my off side would.

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Speaker 8: Go in May and you know, hang off down for

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 8: the month and then get back to football and stuff again.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Mason Graham at the podium

1747
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: from over the weekend. Obviously a lot of attension at

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01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: rookie Minni Camp was on the two quarterbacks, but you'd

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Speaker 2: be remiss not to also acknowledge that Mason Graham. It's

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01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 2: harder for him on an interior defensive lineman. It's hard

1751
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: to be as noticeable as it is as a ball

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01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: carrier receiver, as a quarterback corner of linebackers. It's tough.

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01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: But he has a presence about him and it's somebody

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01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 2: that is very noticeable when you see him on the field.

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01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 5: Well, and again, I think he's going to be a

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01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 5: guy that you might need to You don't want to

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01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 5: push rookies into playing, but from day one you're probably

1758
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 5: gonna be counting on him because we don't know what

1759
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 5: Mike Halls rehab and yeah, from his injury. And you know,

1760
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 5: you've got Shelby Harris, You've got a couple other guys,

1761
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 5: but that room with Dalvin gone and has undergone a

1762
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 5: little bit of change, and a lot's going to be expected.

1763
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 5: And you get drafted at number five, the expectation is

1764
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 5: you're going to be on the field day one. So

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01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 5: I mean, that's there's a lot going. I think he's

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01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 5: more than capable of handling it. Here's a guy that

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01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 5: was a projected top five pick a year ago, yep,

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01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 5: before even this year. So I mean, I think he's

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01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 5: a leader. I think you know, the fans aren't going

1770
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 5: to call it the sexiest pick, but it's a pick

1771
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 5: out of necessity and it's a pick that we need

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01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 5: and he fills a very big void on this football team.

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01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: And I think he's I think he's one of those

1774
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: guys like you just plug him in there. He's starting

1775
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: on the defensive line from day one, Like he runs

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01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: with the ones right away and he's in away. You go,

1777
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: like you take a d tackle five, you go, yeah,

1778
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: and that's the that's.

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01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 5: The he needs to go.

1780
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think he will. I mean,

1781
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 2: he's he's really impressive. I mean, this is another thing

1782
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: and I Bill Bender and I were actually we talked

1783
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 2: about it today on this show. Then he and I

1784
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 2: talked earlier this I think maybe yesterday in the morning,

1785
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: and one of the things that struck him not just

1786
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 2: about our guys but about the quarterbacks, but everything was

1787
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: just how enjoyable. All the dudes are a lot of

1788
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: good guys that were drafted and really likable dudes. And

1789
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 2: the two backs are that way, and Fannin's that way,

1790
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: and sweesssengers that way, and Graham's that way. So they

1791
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 2: drafted really quality dudes and really talented players from big

1792
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,919
Speaker 2: time programs and now they're going to get the opportunity

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 2: to shine on a on a very very high level.

1794
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: So it was cool. I saw our media team, I

1795
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 2: think from yesterday had that picture of the four quarterbacks

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01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 2: standing next to each other. So all that, all that

1797
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: stuff is pretty cool.

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 5: It's good to see that they're all here in a

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01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 5: voluntary capacity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that is absolutely always a win.

1801
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: All right, So much more to come. You listen to

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01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,439
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Speaker 2: All right, calvs. Best two out of three at home,

1808
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: get one tonight. That's got to be the money. You know,

1809
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 2: they have that expression ticket one game at a time,

1810
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: there's there's something applicable to it, and it would be

1811
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: tonight and it's win one and then you put the

1812
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: the onus back on them for game three, Game six.

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01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 5: That's you know what the Pacers are. They want to

1814
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 5: come in, they want to bully you around, play your game.

1815
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Their throwback dude. They are Anthony Davis Dale Davis and

1816
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: then that turned into those guys that turned into then, uh,

1817
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 2: you know our Test and Jermaine O'Neil like that kind

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 2: of second incarnation of those guys. But they're just physical

1819
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 2: and they'll punch you. I think Donovan Mitchell has had

1820
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 2: an all time playoff already. I know he's banged up,

1821
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 2: but I mean you see him at shoot around, it

1822
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 2: feels like he's going to go. So hopefully they get

1823
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 2: Hopefully they can at least get it done tonight and

1824
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: hopefully that place is raucous and willing to go. It's

1825
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: one of those ones where I feel like the start,

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01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 2: you'll know so much by that first it's Sunday night. Yeah,

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01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:14,679
Speaker 2: well does that do they start lights out? And then

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01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: when Indy punches them back in the second quarter, do

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 2: they have an answer? That's usually the kind of and.

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 5: You know at the end of the third, early fourth,

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01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 5: Indy's going to come with a run. They've done it

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01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 5: every game. They didn't need to do it Sunday, but

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01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 5: the first three games they came with a run. Yeah,

1834
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 5: can you weather? Can you weather the storm?

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01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Yep? That's it got to be able to get that done.

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01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: Here's something that if you were to say a year ago,

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01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: you would not have had on your Bengo card. Bill

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01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: Belichick was on Sports Center today. There must be acc

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01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: meetings or something like he's on set. I know he's

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01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,839
Speaker 2: his book tour, so but it looks like they're remote.

1841
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't look like Sports Center is in Bristol. Looks

1842
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 2: like it's on the road.

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01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't think the meetings are this early.

1844
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 2: But like he's on Sports Center being grilled about his girlfriend,

1845
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: like this is Belichick and he's like, she has nothing

1846
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 2: to do with North Carolina football. This is what he's doing.

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01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 2: That's it's one of the most by the way, I'm

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01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm I'm team him on this. Like the idea that

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01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 2: Pablo Torre is looking into this stuff and his personal

1850
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: what different what business is it of any of ours?

1851
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,600
Speaker 2: Whatever he does in his personal life.

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01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, he's on with Straight Heird Morning America. That's

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01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,759
Speaker 5: the book tour part. I'm assuming it's a book tour.

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01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought so too, But like the video I

1855
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 2: saw of him answering the question, it looked like sports

1856
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:43,839
Speaker 2: centers on the road.

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01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: All right, next level is coming up next. We are

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