1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: That's right, Martin the VJ broadcasting live from the tire 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Tire rack dot com. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there with a non max election, 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road as a protection and over 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended this dollars tire rack dot com. If 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: the way that tire buying should be also brought to 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 2: Get a multipolicy. 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Sooner or later. 20 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: With all this realignment and with all this new stuff 21 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: going on in college football, trust me, they're going to 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: end up eliminating the NC and creating their own type 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: of college football league where you can't do this type 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: of corny stuff. Man Hardball still strong. Y'all wanted to 25 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: try to take Michigan down because you know, we got 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: crazy talent this year. You know we're gonna beat Ohio State. 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it into the playoff and winning the 28 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: Semis and win the national championship this year with all 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: games with head coach Jim Harball, Choe Back, Lijem Choim 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: Back Junior on the sidelines. Yes, yes, I'm excited, Hashbag. 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: They they are trying to hold back Gym. Y'all are 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: holding back Gym now and we and we Michigan. We 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: will win the national championship this year. I'm saying, I'm 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: putting that. That's my prediction right there for college football. 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: Michigan wins it all this year. Harball finally gets that championship. 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: That alludes to, I don't know what. I don't know 37 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: what the beef is that Nick Cops got with me. 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I really don't. 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: I told myself, you know, after throwing that Lebron news 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: out there a few weeks ago, my first time with 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: you guys all right, no Lebron today, We're gonna go 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: Lebron free. 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't know, man, it was an honest mistake. 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Be and Brandon spent like thirty minutes to get earlier 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: today trying to cobble together what's going on. We're scouring 47 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 2: preseasons NFL games for storylines, you know what going off. 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: In there, and give it gets all of that. But 49 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: this is big. Harball being suspended those first four games 50 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: was big news. It was breaking news on the end. 51 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: It was breaking news on every sports network and channel. 52 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: Everybody led the show with Michigan head coach called Jim 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Harball is looking at a four games. So the fact 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: that nothing could be done this year, the negotiation goes 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: bye bye, and then we know we're gonna get him 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: on the sideline all this year. Man, Yes, we Michigan US. Man, 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: You're no, no, we You're part of this. You're part 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: of this, man, Listen, I'm paid. 59 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: Look, Schalie madchars me entirely too much for me to 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: say we. 61 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: They know what we. 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: That is them, all right, because nobody who I call 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: wee hitting me over the head like that. Okay, the 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: landlord and the University of Michigan, both of them on 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: the first of the month, drawing blood. 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: All right, drawing blood got you boy? Oh yeah, I 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: guess are you past the deferment years? Because I know 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you can defer college, you know, payments for you know, 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: ten years, fifteen years, but then your mid thirties hit them, 70 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: debit start coming out. 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: That's basically what Mary Sue Coleman, President of Michigan told 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: me when I was there where if the money jerk 73 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: because of it, you ain't getting a scholarship champ. You know, 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: you can't play nothing in the grades. Goodness gracious would 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: you be eligible if you could? 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: All right? But anyway, Yeah, back to the matter right hand. 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: The number one overall pick played football today, Bryce Young 78 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: in Carolina. And I tell you this, I did not 79 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: have Zach Wilson being the best looking quarterback in that 80 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: game on my Bengo card, but you kind of was. 81 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Bryce Young. My biggest takeaway right here, that is a 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: small small man, DJ. That is a small man. 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: And look they said in the press the tweeted in 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: the press box. 85 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Somebody tweeted in the press box. 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: I don't remember who it was exactly, but apparently there 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: was a gasp when Jermaine Johnson, former Jets I think 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: it was first first round pick hit Bryce Young and 89 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: everybody was like, but then he got up, popped up. 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: But then we'll I mean, we'll see. We are now 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: what week one of the preseason, so we got three more, 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: two more of these and then seventeen regular season games 93 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: coming up. I think it's gonna be all season? Is 94 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: Is he gonna continue to pop up? Is going to be? 95 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: What the takeaway is? I think when Bryce Young, I'm 96 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: being facetious. Of course he only played three series talking 97 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: about Zach Wilson played, but he also played enough long 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: enough to have sixteen completions. 99 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: No, there you go, I'm poking fun at that. 100 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: But I think the reality is we're now seeing just 101 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: how small Bryce Young is. 102 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Well, we always knew how small Bryce Young is. Now 103 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: the thing about his translations to the NFL is going 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: to be you don't have four and five star recruits 105 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: in front of you that can personally choose to complete 106 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: for Nick Saban Alabama and possibly win an SEC championship, 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: playing place often win a national championship, So you don't 108 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: have that, So you have maybe two guys up there 109 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: that might be scrapping to make the team because they 110 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: just don't have guys to field the line. That was 111 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: one of my takeaways we'll get into a little later, 112 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: was offensive line play that I saw early in these 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: preseason matchups. But with Bryce Young, you gotta have to 114 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: protect them like you would have to protect any quarterback. Now, 115 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: he didn't take one hit, ain't take two. He took 116 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: three to U saw he took three in three series. 117 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: They take me gas. But I did watch to say, 118 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: all right, buddy, pop up, Okay, cool. I just think 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: the kids tough. I understand this will wear and tear 120 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: on you. But I'm pretty sure the offensive coordinator, head coach, 121 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: we're not happy with a simple stunt on what first 122 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: completed his first pass attempt. A simple stunt is all 123 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: that was from the right, and you guys lose one 124 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: of the guys and he gets a free shot at 125 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: our number one overall drafted franchise quarterback. Trust me, I'm 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: pretty sure both the tackling guard over there gonna get it. 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: If they didn't get air full already, they're gonna get it. 128 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: Because you can't make those type of simple mistakes to 129 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: play tricked out that the commentator. The commentator said, yeah, 130 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: they bring a blitz. Oh I'm sorry. You know what, No, 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't a blizz with that, because that's how bad 132 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: it looked at you. All they did was a stunt. 133 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: That's basic. That's D line one O one is stunt 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: left right and you cross over. One guy goes, you 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: wait for a second, the other guy goes. In the 136 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: preseason game, which your number one overall franchise quarterback, the 137 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: garden tackle can't make that mistake, even with of course 138 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: with him being actually a small quarterback. You can't give 139 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: guys free runs and hits like that and being able 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: to hit him. I thought one could have been roughing 141 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: the passer by what they call it today. I don't 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: feel it was rough in the passer, but I've seen 143 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: that call where the guy got a kind of got 144 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: two extra steps and then just kind of threw a 145 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: shoulder to him, and that was a solid hit. I've 146 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: seen that flag thrown a bunch of times, so I 147 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: couldn't believe that it wasn't thrown today. But I mean, 148 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I thought he looked good, he looked comfortable. I trust 149 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: what they say there. He's QB one and that's what 150 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: they're gonna roll with. I've been with the guy since 151 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: his sophomore in high school, man, so I ain't jumping 152 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: off off of a couple of hits. Got to fix 153 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: the line though, So he doesn't take those hills, Martin, 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: that's the problem. 155 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is the NFL, though, Like you 156 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: know what it's like, you said, this is not Alabama. 157 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: They're not. 158 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: They don't get that pick of the letter from you know, 159 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: Maine to Arizona, whatever offensive lineman you want. 160 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Chermany pull him. 161 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: From anywhere, right, so you're not necessarily getting that same 162 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: level of talent. That's kind of what how it goes 163 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: like this Panther's team, and they're not terrible, you know 164 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: what I'm saying in terms of like they traded up 165 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: for the number one overall, Like he's in a much 166 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: better position than say C. J. Stroud is because the 167 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: the Houston Texans earned that number two overall pick. 168 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: And should have had the number one overall pick. 169 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: But shout out to lovey Man for respecting the gang. 170 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: Ye all right, he said, you know you don't fire 171 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: me anyway, damnit. Yeah, enjoy this second overall pick. And 172 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: I loved it. 173 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: I loved every second shot out to love because you 174 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: know what, the checks cash the same way. It's guaranteed money, baby, 175 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: guaranteed money as a fired NFL head coach, one of 176 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: my dream jobs. But it's just this is going to 177 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: be the storyline throughout his career, throughout this season. Can 178 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: he hold up five ten, two hundred and five pounds 179 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: that you know what that means? 180 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: VJ. 181 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: I am both taller and way more than him. Yeah, 182 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: and I have zero athleticism in this body. It's at 183 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: that level, which is you know, hey, it is what 184 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: it is. But it's with Frank right there, the who 185 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: you like a lot. I like him as an offensive 186 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: court Yeah, you like Frank. I don't know how good 187 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 2: of a head coach he is. I also don't give 188 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: guys passes for not being able to figure out the 189 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: quarterback position quote unquote, because you just trotted in somebody 190 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: else's discard. 191 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: H A bunch of better. 192 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers didn't work for you, nor did Matt Ryan. 193 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: Oh go figure right, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 194 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: cars and what they went? Go figure they went right? 195 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: So like no, I'm not expecting like hey, no, no, no, 196 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: you go get a guy. Go find a guy, developed guy. 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that Andrew Luck retired. However, and Andrew Lucker 198 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: in college at the same time. It was gonna happen eventually, 199 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: it just happened a little bit earlier than you were 200 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: planning for. But nonetheless, you know, you get a little 201 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: bit of a window because it happened so randomly, and 202 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: in the beginning of this, right before. 203 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: The game he had next surgery. Yeah, but I'd say 204 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: after about sixteen games. 205 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 2: You got to figure the position back out again, especially 206 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: if you are when they say, hey, quarterback whisper as, 207 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: they say. 208 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: Well, you got to figure out sooner than that. You 209 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: have to know what your plan B is gonna be. 210 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: I think that's why backups are so important. I don't 211 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: believe there's a best backup in the league because I 212 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: think the best backup you'd be starting somewhere. So I 213 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: don't like that terminology of it. But you better have 214 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: a guy who could come in and be efficient and 215 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: not turn the ball. All you know, all you want 216 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: your backup to do is not turn the ball over. 217 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: So you if you don't have that vet, you better 218 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: be able to develop a young guy. And I think 219 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: he's got that. With Bryce Young, he has one question mark. 220 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: Bryce has got one simple question mark is can he 221 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: take the abuse in the NFL. It's as simple as that. 222 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: He every other box. The way you fix that though, 223 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: it's not on him. He's not gonna grow, he's not 224 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna gain twenty pounds of solid muscle. He's not gonna 225 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: change the player he is. As an organization, as a 226 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: head coach, as a GM, as an offensive line coach, 227 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: and as an owner, it is your responsibility and duty 228 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to make sure you put men, grown ass men in 229 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: front of him where he's not taking hits and we 230 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: don't have to question whether he could take the beat 231 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: it or not. I'll give you props on this today 232 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: does make it? God? God, man, if they got to 233 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: protect this kid now, God, he's small. He's taking three 234 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: hits in a preseason game. Two of them are unblocked. Guys, 235 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: all right, guys like, come on now, don't do this 236 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: to this kid, because you know what we'll do it. Yeah, 237 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: he was a bus he was No, you didn't put 238 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: anybody in front of him to help. That's the game. 239 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: How many great offensive lines are there in the NFL? 240 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: So only a hands you have to just put guys 241 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: that at least can block Martin. It ain't gotta be 242 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: a great offense. They can run the ball, how is 243 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: it their top five rushing offenser, You can't protect the quarterback. 244 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: That's crazy than me. You should be able to do 245 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: both as an offensive linem. It's a difference between running 246 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: forwards and running back. Well, you gotta get guys that 247 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: can do both. Now, now you do now for him. 248 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 2: That's the thing, is what I'm saying, is like, you 249 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: can't assume that the offensive line is just going to 250 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: drastically improve. 251 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not saying it's gonna drastic I prove. 252 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's on the organization to make sure that 253 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: you get guys in. There are coaches that could coach 254 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: guys up who can block for your franchise quarterback, because 255 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: first of all, you don't want any franchise quarterback taking 256 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: open hits. There's not one quarterback in the league head 257 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: coach that would say, yeah, I'm okay with with with 258 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: unblocked guys getting a full run at my quarterback. That's 259 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that's Mahomes, that's Jalen Hurt. Name them, name 260 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: all the great was Herbert Burrow. You want nobody getting 261 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: a free hit as your quarterback. But because we got 262 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: a five to ten, five eleven, two to oh five guy, 263 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: we definitely can't have guys. Okay, that's my responsibility now 264 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: to make sure we get guys in there that happens. No, 265 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: this line is gonna magically change, but the office and 266 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff better do something. 267 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: The thing that would have liked to see out of 268 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Bryce Young today, which again this is preseason, all right, 269 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: this is like his first year, first day riding a bike, right, 270 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: So I'm not trying to and I'm not trying to 271 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: diminish his football ability. But again I'm not judging this 272 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: as he was a fifteen year vet, but I would 273 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: have liked to see him slide a little bit in 274 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 2: the pocket. The comparisons to Drew Brees, I think are 275 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: eminent in part because size, arm strength, so on. Right, 276 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: I would have Drew Brees on his tip toes was 277 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: the elite at missing those big shots because he would 278 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: take one step forward and the three hundred pounds man 279 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: will go flying past him. Right, That's what I would 280 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: have liked to see a little bit more out of 281 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: Bryce Young in this but again first three serieses of 282 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: his professional career. So he's got nothing but time to 283 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 2: get better and get that what. 284 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna add, But not only that, that's a 285 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: great point about Brees, but Brees had to learn to 286 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: do that when he was Remember when he was at Purdue, 287 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: he had a great offensive line in front of He 288 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: had to learn to maneuver and move. Once he got 289 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: to the league and saw the speed decides that. I 290 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: think Bryce is the kind of kid and the kind 291 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: of player that's dedicating, has the skill set in the 292 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: mindset to learn to do those things as repetition does come. 293 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: But you can slot all you want when you got 294 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: guys coming at you free, I don't care if it's 295 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: the electro slide at the barbecue, homeboy, somebody going tattoo 296 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: you sooner or later. 297 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 2: So we saw Jamar Chase help Joe Burrow's career. 298 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: Okay, yep. 299 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: We saw a j Brown walk in help Jalen Hurts. 300 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: We saw Stephan Diggs walk in and help Josh Allen. 301 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: I think today in preseason action, we may have seen 302 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 2: the next version of this wide receiver quarterback combo to 303 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: take a next step We'll get to that next. 304 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: Martin and VJ Fox Sports Radio. 305 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 5: Listen to Comeback Stories. 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If 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I had to put my thumb on one thing, women 343 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: beat the drum that I beat all last summer and 344 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: cashed in on them, cash on this guy again. Russell 345 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: Wilson is done like he's done. This is last year 346 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: was not an anomaly. This is what he has become. 347 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: When you're out of Pete Carroll system, you don't have 348 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: legion to boom and you don't have the beast mode. Yeah, 349 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: you can still put up numbers, and you can still 350 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: play in the division and get some dubs and get 351 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: to the playoffs and things of that nature. But when 352 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: you just analyze players in certain ways and break them down, 353 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: you can just see the deterioration of certain players come 354 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes the drop off the cliff is like that 355 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: in sports. It's not gradual. They wake up one day 356 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and they just they're just not the same guy. And 357 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: I know it was a preseason game, but that was 358 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: the backups they were going against last night and their 359 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: offensive line got decimated. He was throwing the ball short, 360 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: overthrown receivers. He threw on to Jerry Judy, but that 361 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: was right after he threw into Jerry Judy and he 362 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: dropped And I went right to Twitter. Yeah, mister drop seas, 363 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: he drops balls. That's what he does. Is this team 364 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: is many. They're looking at six or ten wins, and 365 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I think Russell Wilson is done as a starting quarterback 366 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: this year. 367 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: I uh won thousand percent agree with you. And not 368 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: into some like it's just year's thirty four, real, it's 369 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: it's but it's here. Yeah, it's it's arrived, and I 370 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: think it arrived last year, maybe even the year prior 371 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: to that after, But it was the thumbs I'll give, 372 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: I'll get, I'll give him some grace, but I will 373 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: say this, you're not paying Jared Stidham five million dollars 374 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: a year for two years to be a backup quarterback 375 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: if you got faith in what's going on up front. 376 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: I feel like showing Payton, like I saw you on 377 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: your your tweet capaid, I'm locked out of Twitter on 378 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: my phone and somehow still came across. 379 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Her because your two years, stalker, you deserve it. 380 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: But uh, the idea that that Russ is done and 381 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: he's still playing in the second quarter of a preseason game, 382 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: thank you game one? Well, I think game one. If 383 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 2: I had to say anything, this is showing Payton trying 384 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: to find what Russ can do. 385 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: Well. 386 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if that list is very long, right, 387 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: I don't know if that lists very long. But the 388 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: funniest thing I saw today was somebody el budget on 389 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: Twitter saying that he should name his new child America 390 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: as he could use it as a campaign chip in 391 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. 392 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Because that's about the future. But I'll have this one 393 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: for you. 394 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: Did you know that in the first five years of 395 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: his career, which just happened to round out right now, 396 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: DJ Moore has gone over one thousand yards three times 397 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: last year eight hundred and eighty eight, with the likes 398 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: of Baker Mayfield PJ. Walker as his quarterback. And there's 399 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: another name in there I'll forgetting right now to started 400 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: games with Carolina. But he's played all these quarterbacks, a 401 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: ton of differ quarterback Taylor, I ain't thinkey you name 402 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 2: them has been his quarterback, Sam Darnald, Sam Donald. There 403 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: you go, that's there you go, Sam Donald, who has 404 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: got to play the whole second half is today for 405 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, all right. DJ Moore every year, 406 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: every day in day out pretty much has been a 407 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: consistent thousand yard receiver, if not flirting with it. And 408 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: today he took a screen pass from Justin Fields and 409 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: looked very impressive. And I couldn't help but think, wait 410 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 2: a minute, guys, Wait a minute, guys. Because DJ Moore 411 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how prolifics some of his stats were 412 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: he doesn't miss games. He's missed one game in the 413 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: last four seasons, right, and then I mean, I'm sorry, 414 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: he's only not started one game in the last four season. 415 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Like he is impressive. 416 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 2: And when you look at some of these younger quarterbacks 417 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: and the things that they need, and justin fields for 418 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: all his flaws as a thrower, incredible runner, That bubble 419 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: screen college offense will get you a little bit farther 420 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: in the NFL than it used to. And Dj Moore 421 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: catching some of those screens running behind Darnell right, that 422 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: trade for that number one overall pick. I'll tell you 423 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: what Bryce Young needs to work out for the Panthers, 424 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: because I look the Bears out a lot for it, 425 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: and they they I mean, it was on display today. 426 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: You know what, man, I was wrong? Remember during the break, 427 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I said, I think I knew what quarterback and receiver 428 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: combination you were talking about, but don't tell me. I 429 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: want to try to guess. I guess I thought you 430 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: were talking about what's going on. And I tweeted the 431 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: other day I think they're going to be a lot 432 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: better than people think. And what's going on up in PITTSB, Right, now. 433 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what's going on up at Pittsburgh right now 434 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: with their quarterback and their number one receiver is is 435 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: this is? This could be special this year. I don't 436 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: think that the Steelers finished last in their division this year. 437 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: So check this. High hopes for the Ravens, high hopes 438 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: for the Bengals, and high hopes for Cleveland. Somebody's finishing last. 439 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: One of those teams are finished the last, but it won't. 440 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: But it won't be the Pittsburgh Steelers. I got them 441 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: at probably ten to eleven wins because that's just that's 442 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: just what they do. Last year was a transitional year 443 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. They know who the guy is. 444 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: This year, they got a great running game, TJ wats Back, 445 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: former Defense Player of the Year Mike Tonglin never had 446 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: a losing season as a coach. That's that's the combination. 447 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go with fields and DJ Moore. 448 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah that could work out also too, But I need fields. 449 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: I support fields and back them, but I need feels 450 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: to get more accurate. I do it. 451 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: It's like, bro, just you have to see. That's the 452 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: thing I love about it. He's not not accurate, and 453 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: that's I'm not saying that's okay in the grand sky. 454 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: It's not accurate, not a good thing. 455 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 2: But when you go out and get a guy like 456 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: DJ Moore, you can make contested catches. Guess what, Your 457 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: quarterback becomes that much more accurate. Like the other day 458 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: we were talking, I was like, I would love it 459 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: if Lamar asking to get Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. 460 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: Why because of the catch rated Because like you'll get 461 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: the ball there, but maybe it's just too far out 462 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: in front, too far in the back, you know what 463 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying there, And like you trade that for the 464 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: running ability, right, you trade that because now you have 465 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: true eleven or true six threats offensively, right, you. 466 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: Know with eleven person, I know, I know just an 467 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: eleven person. So you trade that for the accuracy. All right? 468 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: Now, if Joe Burrow wasn't accurate, you know, this guy 469 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: can't play because he's not running because he can't move. 470 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: He's not he's not moving like that. Now, Lamar, good, okay, 471 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: justin fields. 472 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Good. 473 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: You get those guys, big body, tall, wide receivers, large 474 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: catch radius, and all of a sudden they become more accurate. 475 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying, think about Taylor saying, think 476 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: about how. 477 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: Many touchdowns Jalen Hurts just gave A J. Brown a 478 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: chance for this year? True, but he's a lot more accurate. 479 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: Than I'm not. I'm not saying, Okay, he's a lot 480 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: more accurate. But how many? How many? 481 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: How many touchdowns did you see an especially in year 482 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: one of Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen, where he's like, 483 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna give this all world player a chance, 484 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: chance and see what happens. Sure enough, good things do. 485 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: And hopefully that'll be enough, because I you know, if 486 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: that's if that's all it's gonna become, then eventually teams 487 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: will figure that out and they'll be it'll be a 488 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Stow made offense. It'll be like, oh oh he does 489 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: is just throwing up the DJ Moore. So I mean, 490 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, tell the Eagles all they did was throwing 491 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: up to A J. Brown and run the ball to 492 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. There you go, all right, coach, don't 493 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: derail my show. Damn it. I was about to say, 494 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: how are you gonna how are you gonna screw this 495 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: one up? This time? By let's go. You're up? Oh man, you. 496 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: Can hear me all right there, I am. I'm gonna 497 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: you my best not to screw. I had full good 498 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: intentions walking into the show, and I just totally derailed 499 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: there right at the start. 500 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: So I've been told cop. The thing is, I'm sorry, man, 501 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm so diverse. 502 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 5: Man. 503 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: You thought you avoided it with Lebron I did, but 504 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: then you gave me. But then you gave the Michigan. 505 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: I didn't didn't know that was in there, did not know. Yeah, 506 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: you'll get caught. You'll do it again. You'll do again. 507 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: Picket to pickings sounds pretty good, though. I like your 508 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 3: head's at Thanks, got a nice float to it. Let's 509 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: talk about other NFL preseason games. He gets touched down 510 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: at last segment, number one pick. Quarterback Bryce Young made 511 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: his debut in a Panther uniform. He played three series, 512 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: no first downs, four of six for twenty one yards. 513 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: He didn't take a sack. 514 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: No Aaron Rodgers of course for the Jets, but Zach 515 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 3: Wilson played well buck twenty three and a score. Jets 516 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: shout out the Panthers twenty seven and nothing. He also 517 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: had Damar Hamlin making his debut back on the field 518 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 3: for the first time in seven months. He was credited 519 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: with three tackles. Colts tricky quarterback in that game, Anthony Richardson. 520 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: He struggled to move the Colts offense much. He was 521 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: seven of twelve sixty seven yards, had an interception as well, 522 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: didn't run the ball all that efficiently. 523 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: Bills won twenty three to nineteen. 524 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence threw a pick on his first throw today, 525 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: but then he led a touchdown drive against the Cowboys, 526 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: who do not have Dak Prescott playing. Cowboys are leading 527 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 3: sixteen to fourteen in the fourth quarter. Also have the 528 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 3: Eagles and the Ravens that just got going three to 529 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: nothing Philly there on the first quarter, but no Jalen Hurts, 530 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: no Lamar Jackson in that one. Seahawks running back Kenneth 531 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: Walker the third return to practice today for Seattle. He's 532 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: been out since early camp with the groin injury. As 533 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: a touchdown at the top of the show, reports a 534 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh's negotiated four game suspension with the 535 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 3: NCAA for recruiting violations has been denied by the Committee 536 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: on Infractions. There is not likely to be a resolution 537 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: on this until next year, so that means Harbaugh is 538 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: expected to coach all games coming up this season. In 539 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 3: the NBA, Espter reports the Sixers have ended trade talks 540 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: about James Harden and they intend to bring him back 541 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: to training camp at this the next season finals. In baseball, 542 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: Braves blow out the Mets twenty one to three. Matt 543 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 3: Olsen homer twice for Atlanta. He leads the Big Leagues 544 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: down with forty two big flies on the year. Marlins 545 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: beat the Yankees three to one. Sandy Alcintara with a 546 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: complete game Reds and Pirates was postponed due to rainlaw. 547 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: A doubleheader tomorrow comes over the Blue Jays five to four. 548 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: Ray's edge the Guardian six to five. Tigers beat the 549 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: White Sonx six to two. 550 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: Back to you guys, Thanks Nick, and without further ado, 551 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: let's get my guy in here. Yeah, Planet Intra music Baby, 552 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: that's Mark G. Madina on Twitter, Mark Medena in your 553 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: hearts FSR NBA insider Mark, How on the hell are you? 554 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 7: Oh? I'm doing much better than the Sixers and James 555 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 7: Harden are for sure. 556 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, can we get into this real quick? 557 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: You know? 558 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: I know you you put an article out there. Well, 559 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 2: Vijay asked you the next question about that. We've got 560 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: gotta ask this right here, right now. Is James Harden 561 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: just the biggest teas in the NBA? 562 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Like what was this ald? 563 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 8: Like? 564 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: What was the whole reason he's demanding a train? Now 565 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: he's walking it back? Mark, it's August, it's preseason football 566 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: on my TV. What is James Harden doing? Go on, 567 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: let's talk to me please. 568 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 7: Well, from the very beginning, I was told that he 569 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 7: was mad that for a few things. I think that 570 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 7: even though the Sixers say that they never explicitly promised 571 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 7: that he would be rewarded with a hefty pay day 572 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 7: after taking a pay ket last summer so that they 573 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 7: could upgrade the roster, that that he saw that as 574 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 7: a breach, and you know, basically that he was being 575 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 7: lied to. So that was the dominant number one. I 576 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 7: think the dominant number two is that he was being 577 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 7: more pessimistic about the sixers championship chances and when he 578 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 7: saw someone like Bradley beil Get traded, he wanted the 579 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 7: Sixers to be able to do that before free agency started. 580 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 7: But the problem is he couldn't do that because he 581 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 7: was already going to be under contract, and so the 582 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 7: only way or he was going to be a free 583 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 7: agency The only way he could do that was to 584 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 7: exercise that player option, but he couldn't do that until 585 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 7: the day before free agency. So he got mad with 586 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 7: kind of the timing of all that. But fast forward now, 587 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 7: I think what's happened here is James Harden's realized that 588 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 7: this is his best option. I mean, the market for 589 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 7: him is in turbulent. While teams like the Clippers may listen, 590 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 7: they're not going to gut the roster to get him. 591 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 7: At the end of the day, this isn't Houston Rockets. 592 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 7: This is Philadelphia seventy six ers. Even though they did 593 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 7: underachieve this season, they do have a playoff contending type 594 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 7: roster and if they want to be better, well, James 595 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 7: Harden can do a lot better with improving their chances. 596 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 7: So does this mean all things are resolved? Not necessarily, 597 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 7: but I think that it is the best outcome for 598 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 7: both sides because of the limited options. 599 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: Marmadina vj Right Husky Here, buddy, how are we feeling 600 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: this week? 601 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 9: Man? 602 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: No? 603 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 7: Great? I mean always drawing the NBA with James Harden, 604 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: but I guess all some moments to celebrate with the 605 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 7: whole thing. 606 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's move on to some feel good stuff. 607 00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 8: Man. 608 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: You and a with Mike Brown, who I think is 609 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: a really good NBA head coach, And a lot of 610 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: it revolved around Tony Parker in the Hall of Fame 611 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: this week. I've always thought Tony Parker was a very 612 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: underrated player and underappreciated tight player. And I don't have 613 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: him in top ten my ten really fast, Oscar, Magic Kid, Nash, 614 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Steph Stockton, CP three, Mark Jackson, Isaiah Thomas, and Kuzzi. 615 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: But I think he's like, you know, ten to fifteen, 616 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: you know, in that era. Talk to me about that 617 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 1: piece right there, what you kind of learned about Tony 618 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: Parker maybe my opinion of synopsis about him. 619 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 7: Well, look, I think what's interesting about Tony Parker is 620 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 7: he was at the time considered this gem in Europe 621 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 7: and an unknown and as much as we talk about, 622 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 7: you know, the sports first culture and continuity and relying 623 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 7: on guys like Tim Duncan, Monu Ginoba and Tony Parker, 624 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 7: initially they want no part of him. You know, they 625 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 7: heard some intriguing things about him, but when they saw 626 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: him at the pre draft combine in Chicago, they thought 627 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 7: his workout was terrible. I mean, Mike Brown was telling 628 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 7: me that they didn't feel like he could shoot the 629 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 7: ball at all, that they're wondering, like, what the hell 630 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 7: are we doing here? But their front office was really 631 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 7: high on him RC Bruford and Sam Presti, So they 632 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 7: basically talked Greg Popovich and the rest of the coaching 633 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 7: staff to give him a chance for a second workout. 634 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 7: And for Mike Brown, what jumped out to him was 635 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 7: just how dramatically different he was with improving a shot 636 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 7: in such a short period of time. And even though 637 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 7: you know draft workouts are draft workouts, I think the 638 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 7: thing that left them intrigued was just he was just 639 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 7: this lightning quick point guard and they thought that he 640 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 7: could be great, so great that they try to furiously 641 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: trade up in the draft to get in the top ten, 642 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 7: thinking if they don't, he's going to get plucked away. 643 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 7: They couldn't the trade in the top ten, but with 644 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 7: that twenty eighth tick, they wound abuse on Tony Parker. 645 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 7: Now he's kind of that success story of that rare 646 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 7: late first round tick that can turn into a star, 647 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 7: and so you know, not only has he become an 648 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 7: NBA star, but internationally he's been a huge player with 649 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 7: you know, really rowing the game and you know kind 650 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 7: of the respect level. 651 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was married to even Longloria, wasn't he. Yeah 652 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: he's a world star. Yeah, he's been. 653 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 7: A superstar on multiple ef Yeah. 654 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: There you go, there you get. 655 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: Let's speaking of another superstar, not necessarily in multiple rounds, 656 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 2: but just one, uh, the first overall pick at the time. 657 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 2: Tim Duncan, who was talking to you you were talking 658 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: about Mike talking to Mike Brown, and he said that 659 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: Pop coach Tim Duncan hard if Tim messed up Pop 660 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: out on him? What was that experience like for Pop 661 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: at the time, But according to Mike Brown, and then 662 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: how can we extrapolate that going forward to you know, 663 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: big Vic. 664 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a really good question. I mean, look, I 665 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 7: was trying to get specifics and color for Mike Brown 666 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 7: of examples of web pop just you know, unleashed on 667 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 7: Tim Duncan and the film sessions, practices, games and what 668 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 7: prompted it. And he didn't go chapter and verse on me, 669 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 7: but he said he don't. You can imagine when there's 670 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 7: mistakes point out on film or things going on in the 671 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 7: game of practice, he would get up and Tim Duncan's 672 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 7: face and coach them harden. The thing about Tim Duncan 673 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 7: is that he would accept it. He want to be 674 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 7: the star player. That's a you know, would be like, 675 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 7: don't you know who I am? How could you do this? 676 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 7: That deserve more respect. He was willing to tolerate Greg 677 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 7: Popovich's undressing and what that did was Tim Duncan's a 678 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 7: man a few words, if at all, but it spoke 679 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 7: a loud message that hey, I'm willing to, you know, 680 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 7: be undressed and coach hard. So that means everyone else 681 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 7: has to do it. And as a result of that, 682 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 7: as much as Ray Popovitch deserves his flowers, he's obviously 683 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 7: a Hall of Fame coach. Don Nelson told me in 684 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 7: a different Q and A that he considers him the 685 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 7: best coach ever. A lot of this also has to 686 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 7: do with Tim Duncan, not just because of his talent, 687 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 7: but he really gave him the authority and freedom to 688 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 7: coach as you want to. And then, in any NBA 689 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 7: and any era, you need that buying from the star 690 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 7: player because everyone else role players complimentary player interrotation. Guys, 691 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: they mostly followed that top leader and he sets the tone. 692 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 7: And as a result of Kim allowing Pop to coach 693 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 7: on the way he did, he could do that basically 694 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 7: with everyone else on the roster. 695 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: We got Marmin Dina Hare, Fox Sports Radio, NBA insider, Mark, 696 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: talk to me about this Team USA, Man, I'm not 697 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna lie. I giggled out loud and have to win 698 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: that honestly, they put when they posted the video of 699 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: them taking the team pitcher real talk, Man, I said, 700 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: what the hell is that? Change my mind? Mark? 701 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 7: Well, look, this isn't the Chi League we're talking about. 702 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 7: We're talking about maybe not the best of the best 703 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 7: of Team USA players. That's the beat squad, and this 704 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 7: is usually what happens in the World Cup. You think of, 705 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 7: you know, the young up and comers, maybe guys who 706 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 7: have made All Star appearances, but you're not thinking of, 707 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 7: you know, the generational talent like the Lebron James Steph 708 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 7: Curries of the world. But look, I'm really high on 709 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 7: guys like Brandon Ingram, Anthony Edwards, Jalen Brunson, Austin Reeves. 710 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 7: I think when you look at what's happened usually in history. 711 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 7: Is Number one. A lot of those guys that are 712 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 7: on that team USA in FOBA games, they have a 713 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 7: breakout season the following season. And number two, I think 714 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 7: that even though you know, we're only a few years 715 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 7: removed from their disappointing finish in the World Cup when 716 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 7: they finished seventh place, I think that they started using 717 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 7: this lesson of you know, you got to take the 718 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 7: world competition seriously. You need to have more buy and 719 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 7: maybe not necessarily from the A listers, but at least 720 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: from the B listers. So they are a for real team. 721 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 7: We don't have to laugh at their photo. They're not 722 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 7: going to embarrass the US and a global stage. But yeah, 723 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 7: just be prepared for the Paris Olympics that it's going 724 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 7: to be the A listerers and only a few of 725 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 7: those guys on the Gold Cups team they'll actually be 726 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 7: competing on the Olympics. 727 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: I tell you what, guy one thing is coming out 728 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: having that breakout season next year. 729 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: One Anthony Edwards. But I got one for you also 730 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: to Ben Carroll that Cay can play. Ben Carol, let 731 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: me say nine two foot man. He's a duchie and 732 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: a Tatar hill fan. But that kid right there, Mark, 733 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: that kid's the good. 734 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: It's supposed to play for Italy, play for Italy has 735 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: switched over to the United States and an international incident. 736 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. Yeah, yeah, I can't hate man 737 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: that that kid's a baller. 738 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: And you know what, I can't hit on either. I 739 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 2: can't hit on Mark Vadida. Mark, appreciate you joining us 740 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: for the show today. Always appreciate your inside, my guy. 741 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 7: I appreciate you guys as. 742 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: Always, Weekend Mark. So there was a crazy moment on 743 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 1: social media. 744 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: This video got hundreds and millions of views and he's 745 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: now deleted. 746 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: Was it in poor taste? I don't think so. 747 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 2: We'll get into that next Martin VJ Fox Sports Radio, 748 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: and it's about football. Martin and VJ coming to you 749 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: a lot from the tiraq dot Com studios. 750 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: VJ. 751 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 2: We were discussing this a little bit earlier in the hour, 752 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 2: and I want to bring it back up now. Russell 753 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: Wilson's preseason game that you played fifth what twenty minutes 754 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: the actual game time into. 755 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: The second quarter. 756 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 2: Uh, the Broncos, who were five point favorites in the game. 757 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 2: Mind you lost out right to the Arizona Cardinals in 758 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: that game. If you're betting on pre season, I have 759 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 2: news for you. You should stop. You should get some help. 760 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: Like that, Michael Jordan's me, you should stop anyway. 761 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: Stop it, get some help. There you go. That's the 762 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: exact one that I'm thinking of it to stop. 763 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 2: Speaking of social media though, the Carolina I mean the 764 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: Cardinals tweeted, have you seen this video of the passenger 765 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: on the plane who's yelling? 766 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: That is not real? 767 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's not real. A minute, 768 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 2: don't look at me like that, coach, I'll see you. 769 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. All right? They were 770 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: looking for her for a minute. Everybody wanted to know 771 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: who she was. Honestly, I was more than who she 772 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: was pointing at. Who's the guy? 773 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: But anyway, the Cardinals and their social media guys are girls. 774 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: People cut a video making fun of Russell Wilson because 775 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 2: you remember last year Russell Wilson famously did high knees 776 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: on the way to London and Nathaniel Hacket came out 777 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: and was talking. 778 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: About how this was like leadership. 779 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 2: I was like, when I get on the plane, I 780 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,479 Speaker 2: want to knock out, and if the flight attendant would 781 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: be doing high knees next to me. I would be 782 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 2: upset because that's so I'm gonna wake up with. Some 783 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: of his teammates were so so teams were said about that. 784 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: They put they they superimposed the two videos of is 785 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: not real? There is not real? There you go, and 786 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson doing high knees. Where is it at? 787 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: They deleted the video after people they deleted it. 788 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: They deleted the video, suckers, and so I just have 789 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: a question, stay with your chest? 790 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: Is this the america we live in now? Can we 791 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: not make fun of starting quarterbacks anymore? Because I don't 792 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: know if I want to live in this America? What 793 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: are we doing? What are we doing? 794 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 2: I can't fought of Russell Wilson? This guy, I mean, 795 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: I mean last year was he has more bathroom than 796 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: touchdowns and mean spirited? If you want to hang him 797 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 2: up and be a family man, Hey, do you think 798 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 2: I went on away? 799 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Congratulations? Yeah, yep, she's expected again. Rus He just we 800 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: are in that world, man, We are in that world 801 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: where people got it. I'm surprised. I'm I'm pissed they 802 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: took it down. Was it was it insult I didn't 803 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: see it. So was it insulting? Was it? Is it 804 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: just this this society? Is it just society the way 805 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 1: it is today? Everybody's everybody's offended today. 806 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. I mean it was funny. She she's 807 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 3: pointing back, and then they cut. They cropped out Russell 808 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 3: Wilson doing his kettlebell like, you know, extending his leg 809 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 3: out and doing jumping shots. 810 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 8: I don't think anyone is offended, except for maybe NFL 811 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 8: executives were squeamish about teeing off some other team or something. 812 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, what's the whole point. 813 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody has logged into Twitter or 814 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: x or whatever the hell they call it these days 815 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: in the last three year, but that's pretty much what 816 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: you're doing. 817 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: You going there. It takes out to people. Yeah, at 818 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the whole point. 819 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: By the way they people screen recorded it, all you 820 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 3: gotta do is typing Cardinals Russell Wilson. It's still there. 821 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: You know, the Cardinals deleted their tweet, but you can 822 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 3: see the video. Okay, it's still living. I saw Mitchell Schwartz. 823 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: I saw Mitchell Schwartz, who I've talked to before, Jeff 824 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: Schwartz brother who was on the show before us. 825 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: He goes retweet and be like, oh wow, you're gonna 826 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: do this over a preseason game. Yes, yeah, a lot 827 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: of time to do it. Why not away this time 828 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: of year? 829 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 8: Like look at the Chargers schedule release that was that 830 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 8: was during they were taking so many shots of the 831 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 8: Lions over Jamison Williams getting suspended for gambling. 832 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: He listen, I'm a Dolphin fan. You got people that 833 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: will post pictures when tour Fingers went a right against 834 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: the Bengals and they had a player. This is the 835 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: same fan base, and listen, it doesn't bother me. I'm 836 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: not that guy. My skin gets thicker. I'm like a bear. 837 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: I grow extra coat, i grew extra fur. Okay, I 838 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: go an extra layer doing football season because you better 839 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: have thick skin during football season. But they're Buffalo bill 840 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: fans that will tweet at me the picture of Tua 841 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: laying on the ground in Cincinnati on Thursday night with 842 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: that severe concussion when they had something like Lamar Hamlin 843 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: happens to them like, that's that's what people do. That 844 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: is what they do. They go after they'll use injury, 845 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 1: they'll go after you guys. Remember Famously, Michael Lrvin was 846 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: being wheeled off at Veteran Stadium and people thought he 847 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: might be paralyzed and never walk again. The Eagle fans 848 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: were cheering. I love Dave Chappelle's quote. Twitter is not 849 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,919 Speaker 1: a real place. I mean, it's it, really is it. 850 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: It is a website and I've been locked out for 851 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: three days. Don't miss it. Don't miss it one bet. 852 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: I've had the Google News. You know what I'm saying. 853 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: I have to be like, wait, we got apps. She 854 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: don't even have apps on your phone that you can 855 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: still go get. 856 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: I was like, I haven't heard anything about Bryce Young 857 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: this preseason, and I realized it's because all my Twitter 858 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: notifications are off because I don't have to two. But 859 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, look, look, I mean the Cardinals 860 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: are gonna have like four wins. 861 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Maybe total this year. Maybe, soak it up. Soak it up. 862 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 2: And you know what happens when you lose twenty seven 863 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 2: to seven against the Seahawks in Week three or whatever, 864 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: and you tweet that graphic out with like some offensive 865 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: linemen and the graphic with the score. 866 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 8: Up there, You'll get cooked right back where is like 867 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 8: very small in the corner of the graphic. 868 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: You'll get cooked right back, Chris. That's the way it goes. 869 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: I love it. Let other preseason, Yeah, let let the 870 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: let the games begin. Man, this is football season. All 871 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: the soft people go away. Please to mar Hamlin. They 872 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: are Yeah, twenty four snaps, three tackles. We talk to 873 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: that exactly. See me. I don't do that. I'm never 874 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: gonna go at injuries and things of that. I just 875 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: talk big trash, but you know, never like some of 876 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: these other people. But we'll actually get into the mar 877 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: Hamlin in the next hour. Let's get to that. Coming 878 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: up next, Martin and VJ Fox Sports Radio. 879 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 880 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 881 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 882 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 6: listen live. 883 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 2: You got that right, Martin and Vjay broadcasting live from 884 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios tire i rack dot com. 885 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there with the non max election, 886 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road as of protection and over 887 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended his dollars tire rack dot com. 888 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: It's the way that tire buying should be. And with 889 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: that said, we got a special guest this week, man 890 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: that we're gonna bring on to the show. Former NFL 891 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: tackle for the Miami Dolphins. He's a seven time pro baller. 892 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: He is a two time All Pro. Really really good 893 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: mentor and colleague and friend of mine in this business man, 894 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: former Miami Dolphin, mister Richmond Webb. What's going on, brother, 895 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: how you feeling? 896 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 4: J what's up? 897 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 7: Man? 898 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 4: Step out that special gift. Bro, we know each other. 899 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 4: Don't do me like? 900 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: Ah love it? I love it? Man. Well, I gotta 901 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: let people know because you are a special guests man, 902 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: because you're one of the former players of my favorite 903 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: team that I've all always love. 904 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: Man. 905 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: When I first reached out to you and we got 906 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: to wrapping back and forth, invite you to come on 907 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: vj's on Sportsman like Conda, you had no problem doing 908 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: it and done it a handful of times, and that 909 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: the fans love it, the people love it, and I 910 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: appreciate and love you, brother. So yes, you are special. 911 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: You're not just some athlete. We bring it on the show. 912 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. I'm sorry, go ahead, I 913 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna argue with you. I'm my man, my man, 914 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: So let's get right to it. You were in campon 915 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: last week we saw the great Zach Thomas going to 916 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Man, just talk to us about 917 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: what that experience is like. You yourself, we all feel 918 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: like in the Internet and everybody in Dolphinlan feels like 919 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: you should be one of the next guys up. Definitely 920 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: going into the Hall. You have the career to back it, 921 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: but being there can't seeing Zach going to another Miami 922 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: Dolphin part of the Dolphin family. Just tell us what 923 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: that experience was like last week, Richmond. 924 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 4: You know it was great man. You know, everybody had 925 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 4: fans represent for them, but I think the Dolphins, I 926 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 4: think we probably didn't have more than anyone else there 927 00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 4: a bit. I think what was specially about it is 928 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: not only happy for him to go into the Hall 929 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,479 Speaker 4: of Fame, but just the type of pair personally he's 930 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 4: been since I've known him. You know, he was like 931 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 4: a fifth round draft stick and always you know, just 932 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: worked his butt off and you know, respected by everyone 933 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 4: on the team. He was a leader on that defense 934 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 4: even when he was a rookie, and you know, just 935 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 4: to his playmaker ability, but you know, just his unselfish play. 936 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 4: It was never about him. It was always about the team, 937 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 4: and I think that's why I saw so many of 938 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: my former teammates and the fans. And he's just a guy. 939 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 4: You gotta love, Zach And I was definitely happy to 940 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 4: see him going there because I felt he should have 941 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 4: been in there, But it was good to see him 942 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: going there, and I was missing for the. 943 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: World Richmond, I want to switch gears a little bit. Martin. 944 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,720 Speaker 1: White's nice to meet you, my friend. 945 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: I want to ask you a little bit about some 946 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 2: of this preseason football. We saw Bryce Young make his 947 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 2: professional debut today. You obviously played ten of years in 948 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 2: the NFL. What are you looking for or in an 949 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 2: initial start out of a guy like Bryce Young or c. J. 950 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 2: Stroud or Anthony Richardson, some of these guys who you 951 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 2: know is slated right now at least to be the 952 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback going forward, just based off. 953 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: Their draft position. 954 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 2: What are the type of things that you are looking 955 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 2: for are looking to see about how these guys adjusting 956 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: to the league. 957 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think the thing is, you know, 958 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 4: I say the tough one of the toughest positions, Martin, 959 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 4: is the quarterback position and making that jump from the 960 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 4: collegiate level to the to the professional level, but just saying, 961 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 4: if he has confidence in himself, his leadership ability, as 962 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 4: he picked up the offense, does he have command of 963 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 4: the how is his teammates responding to him? I mean, 964 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: the guy's in the offensive huddle and they feel like 965 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 4: they believe in him. So I look for intangibles like that, 966 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 4: and then you know they're gonna make mistakes. The young quarterbacks, 967 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, the game is a little bit more sophisticated 968 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 4: at this level, So how do you respond when you 969 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 4: throw that pick or the play that you can't You 970 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,959 Speaker 4: don't make that first down, you don't keep the change moving. 971 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 4: So I look for stuff like that because I think 972 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 4: that's a lot of times determine how you will end up. 973 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 4: And you know, like I watched see this stroud of 974 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 4: like he threw he threw a pick. If you're there numbers, 975 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 4: they really wasn't that great. That it's preseason and even 976 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: if you have a really good preseason, what you got 977 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 4: to understand is nobody shows their whole hand during preseason. 978 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: So you can look great preseason and you get to 979 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 4: the regular season be like, man, what the hell happened? 980 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 4: I was doing? This and that, so just be willing 981 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 4: to continue to learn the process and adjust. And I 982 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 4: think I think all these guys be finding a good 983 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 4: thing there in camp and camp early. And just like 984 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 4: the Dolphins, they worked against Atlanta and matter of fact, 985 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 4: they're being Houston this week and the Dolphins will work 986 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 4: against the Texans. So I'm gonna over and watch practice. Bit, 987 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: I'll get cc J Strapp for the young guys and 988 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 4: just you know, see some of the just put this 989 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 4: stuff and then you know, you get the kitchen early 990 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 4: on where you can say, man, I was watching this 991 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 4: guy since you know he came to the league and 992 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 4: you see the progression and stuff. So I'm excited for 993 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 4: the young guys. 994 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Richmond, there's a position I want to swing to 995 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: with with our beloved Miami Dolphins and a certain player 996 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: you and I spoke about a few years ago, and 997 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: they spoke about him again last year, and it looks 998 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: like we're talking about him again this year, and I 999 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's a problem. You, my friend, only had fourteen 1000 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: holding penalties your entire career. You never had more than 1001 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: three over thirteen years. You only held and you were 1002 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: protecting Dan Marino in a past happy offense. So I 1003 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: need you to fly down there and be over there 1004 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, and I need you to talk to 1005 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: mister former first round pick, eighteenth thrower out of the USC, 1006 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: Austin Jackson. Just simply put man, because this kid got 1007 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: it or not, because we got to solidify this tackle position. 1008 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: If you were there, being a former All Pro, former 1009 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: pro bowler, what would you say to this young man? 1010 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: How do you think we can get him to be 1011 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: what we need him to be to make sure he 1012 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: protects Tua and can or does he even have that 1013 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: in him in your opinion? 1014 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 4: Well, and that's a great question because I think not 1015 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 4: only offer Jackson, but Lim Mickenberg, those are two guys that, yes, 1016 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 4: solidify you know, the offensive line and everybody knows it's 1017 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 4: not they don't know, but everything starts up front with 1018 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 4: your offensive defensive line. That's what makes the wheels go 1019 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 4: round and round. But you know, the quarterback, the receivers, 1020 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 4: running back, the more glory positions, they get the attention, 1021 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 4: but really everything starts up front. And with Austin Jackson, 1022 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 4: I th house he started out really well last year 1023 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 4: and had the Hinzel's frame and you know, didn't recover 1024 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 4: you know pretty much missed majority of last season, so 1025 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 4: I think with him is to pick up where he 1026 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,479 Speaker 4: left off. And also, you know, this is the money 1027 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 4: here for him. And I think when you are first 1028 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 4: round picked and this is your four, fourth or fifth year, 1029 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 4: but if you're going into that year and your contracts 1030 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 4: coming up, the team is gonna make a determination on you. 1031 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 4: So do you want to be here? Do you want 1032 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,439 Speaker 4: to be one of the guys that you know, get 1033 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 4: one of those record deals? You know, you you got 1034 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 4: to you got to show up in the film online, 1035 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 4: So that would be motivation enough for me. But o them, 1036 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 4: I've never met Austin Jackson. Hopefully I'll get a chance 1037 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 4: to just lease say hello. But I just remember him 1038 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: coming out. He was extremely young. I think he was 1039 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 4: twenty years old, but I think another year of college 1040 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 4: would have did him well. But that you got to 1041 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,439 Speaker 4: deal with the handy deal. But right now, nobody wants 1042 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 4: to hear that. Nobody's gonna keep providing excuses for you. 1043 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 4: You've got to show up and play, and if you don't, 1044 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 4: you know, you're going to force the team to do 1045 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 4: things that they don't Maybe they don't want to do, 1046 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 4: but they got it because it's the business at the 1047 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 4: end of the day. 1048 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: So let's stick in the AFC East. 1049 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: Uh, the big the biggest acquisition in terms of news, 1050 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 2: news worthing this at least this offseason. 1051 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to the New York Jets. I'll tell you what. 1052 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: Watching him throw that ball slow motion and hard knocks, 1053 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 2: it's just like, oh my goodness, a little work hard. 1054 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 2: But in terms of that back to back m vps 1055 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 2: had a year off, not necessarily playing at the same 1056 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: level that in the most recent season. What are you 1057 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 2: expecting out of this New York team, especially as it 1058 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: as it as it as they will be in competition 1059 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 2: with your your Dolphins there. 1060 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, honestly more than I think the afdast 1061 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 4: might be one of the most competitive divisions. Like you said, 1062 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 4: with mister Rodgers coming over from Green Bay and then, 1063 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, hats off to him. I think it was 1064 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago he restructed his contract or 1065 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 4: free to you know, a considered amount of money to 1066 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 4: bring in other guys to you know, put them in 1067 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 4: a position to win or sign other players. So when 1068 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 4: you see a guy that you know it guess just 1069 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 4: make my fifty Meion be willing to, you know, take 1070 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 4: a pay cut or restruct this contract to bring guys 1071 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 4: and help to win. I think that still shows he's hungry, 1072 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 4: even though he's been in the league quite some time, 1073 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 4: and not just saying let me get what I can 1074 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,280 Speaker 4: get before I get out of here. For the Jets 1075 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 4: have always been the Jets. They always play us tough. 1076 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who the players. We're always most of 1077 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 4: the time in the dog fight with him. And then 1078 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 4: we also have Buffalo Bill's and mister Bellichick up in 1079 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,760 Speaker 4: New England. So it's gonna be I think it's gonna 1080 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 4: be a pretty that's probably I'm saying it. I'm believing 1081 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 4: that's gonna be the toughest division. 1082 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: In football in football, that's just what. 1083 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 4: So it should be pretty competitive. As long as my 1084 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 4: Domphins come out on top of I'm gonna be good. 1085 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 4: If not. 1086 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: Mister Richmond Webb, former offensive lineman for the Miami Dolphins, 1087 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowl, two times All Pro A few 1088 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: minutes here, man, So a fun question I like to 1089 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,759 Speaker 1: throw out when I talk to athletes to just get 1090 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: their view of competition and hopefully it gains me some 1091 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: more respect or information on another player, hardest guy of 1092 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,439 Speaker 1: blocking your career. But but you looked forward to going 1093 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: up against that guy on Sundays. 1094 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,439 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, as the man up in Buffalo, New York, 1095 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 4: mister Samniate himself. 1096 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 1097 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that was man. That was a handful every 1098 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 4: time you know you met. But like you said, you 1099 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 4: always want to play against the bed and that brings 1100 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 4: out the best. Sometime you win, sometime you lose some time. 1101 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 4: You know, I think we tired that. I think you 1102 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 4: respected me, and I definitely respected his game. But uh, 1103 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 4: it made me raise my level of play playing against 1104 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 4: somebody like that. And I still put him in Reggie 1105 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,360 Speaker 4: White as one too. As far as defensive ends that 1106 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 4: they were on a whole other level. 1107 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: I found a clip of you this morning. You had 1108 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: to block Lord's taylor. At one point in your career, 1109 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: you had you had to block Lord's tail. What was 1110 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: that like? That type of just ferocity in his prime 1111 00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 1: trying to block Lord's taylor. 1112 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,799 Speaker 4: Hey, bro, see, I thought you with my friend I 1113 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 4: got to go to church in the morning. Y'all y'all 1114 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 4: should be doing me Like. 1115 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: The clip, I saw you block them, but I thought said, wow, 1116 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: they played the Giants. Okay, it must have been the 1117 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: year they played the NFCS as the as the off 1118 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: conference that year, and it happened to be a clip 1119 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: where I saw you you got the block on er. 1120 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, he went up against Lawrence Taylor 1121 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: to like, you know, you want to get some legends, man, 1122 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: but Bruce Smith, that's a great one. 1123 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. And like you say, Lawrence Taylor or everybody 1124 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 4: called him LT. When when you can just name your 1125 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 4: initials and everybody know who you're talking about, you know 1126 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 4: you're bad man. So uh and I actually think that 1127 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 4: was my rookie year. So I mean the guys win, 1128 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 4: it's my rookie year. I scramked my head and say, 1129 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how I made it through all those guys, 1130 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 4: but I did so definitely on my side. I didn't 1131 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 4: tell you. 1132 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: That, all right, Richmond. 1133 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,959 Speaker 2: So we've not been talking with Richmond Webb, former mind 1134 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: Dolphins offensive tackle block for Dan Marino for a ton 1135 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 2: of years. There, I want to ask you, So we 1136 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 2: see this almost every year one team goes from worst 1137 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 2: to winning the division. Right are are competing heavily for 1138 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 2: the wild card, and you know, we see it kind 1139 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 2: of every season. Who are we not paying enough attention 1140 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: to right now in the league? What team should we 1141 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 2: be locked in on and say, hey, check out this, 1142 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: They're due for something, right come there, do something coming up. 1143 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 4: I'm going I'm going to NFC and and basically I'm 1144 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 4: going by you know how they finished up last year 1145 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:38,400 Speaker 4: and they really really they played in all the games, 1146 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 4: but the first half of the season it took them 1147 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,960 Speaker 4: a while. They was always lose, so maybe one possession. 1148 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 4: So but I'm gonna go with the Detroit Lions. I 1149 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 4: thought they hit they hit a stride last year and 1150 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 4: they went on a winning streak toward the end, and 1151 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 4: I think if they were won another game or two, 1152 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 4: they would have been a team that a lot of 1153 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 4: people on the see in the NFC, as far as 1154 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 4: you know, in the playoffs, because I think the thing 1155 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 4: is when you get in the playoffs, when you get 1156 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,560 Speaker 4: in the momentum and you get on the run, you 1157 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 4: get on the swing, and your confidence just continues to build. 1158 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 4: Bill Bill and they got it together. And so I'm 1159 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 4: gonna say Detroit right now. I know everybody's still working 1160 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 4: out they got moving PC in that, but based on 1161 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 4: what I thought late last year, that's definitely a team. 1162 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it a little good this year. 1163 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 1: Risman Webb, I'm gonna let you get out of here 1164 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: on this one man, Yes or no? The famous Marino 1165 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: fake spike play up in Meadowlands. Did you guys know 1166 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: he was doing that? Or was that all him and 1167 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: mark ingram Man? 1168 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 4: That was everybody but the offensive line. 1169 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 1: You see that, You guys don't move. You guys don't move. 1170 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, bro, if you ever get a chance to 1171 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 4: go back and watch that play, just look at the 1172 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 4: offensive line and you can tell we don't know what 1173 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 4: the hell he's doing because it's like the guys started 1174 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,279 Speaker 4: rushing and I relaxed and I started back wrestling, like 1175 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 4: what the hell are you rushing for? So it's like 1176 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 4: you have an unusual reaction and then, you know, I 1177 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,839 Speaker 4: asked Dan after that. I was like, hey man, why 1178 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 4: y'all did let us know what was up? You know, 1179 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 4: come on week level in the whole, not five or six. 1180 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 4: He said, Oh no, we didn't let y'all know because 1181 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 4: y'all would have screwed it up. 1182 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh classic, Richmond. We appreciate you so much. Man Plug 1183 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,240 Speaker 1: your show, you're on, You're on the podcast. Tell everybody 1184 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,800 Speaker 1: about it when it can catch it for me, please. 1185 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 4: Buddy, Yeah, live on Wednesday night on the Believed Network. 1186 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 4: It's fenside the NFL, and we normally go live around 1187 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 4: eight thirty Eastern on YouTube. You can catch it on 1188 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 4: YouTube or whatever. And it's mister Reason and mister ball 1189 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 4: Game two guys. I'm on the whipp it. 1190 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 7: Uh. 1191 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 4: Mister Reason is on the probably six days a week 1192 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 4: with the name of the show. It's fen side of 1193 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 4: the NFL. But you can catch the Three Musketeers on 1194 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 4: Wednesdays at eight thirty each time. 1195 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 2: All right, we'll be on the lookout for that. Richmond Webb, 1196 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 2: thank you for joining the show today. I appreciate you. 1197 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: All right, take it eat you too, all right. 1198 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 2: Martin VJAS brought to you by Progressive Insurance Progressive Mikes 1199 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: Bundling easy and affordable. 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All right, all right, everybody, Martin VJA, 1209 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 1210 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you what I know. 1211 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: That's the dumbest that I ever heard of. 1212 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 2: Martin and BJ coming to you live from tireraq dot 1213 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 2: Com Studios, VJ. If you had asked me in May, 1214 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: I would have said this bet was a lot. 1215 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: If you'd asked me in June, I would have said 1216 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 1: this bet was a lot. 1217 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 2: If you had asked me in July, I would have 1218 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 2: said this bet is a stone cold, hammer it down. 1219 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 1: Lock. 1220 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 7: Like that. 1221 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 2: On August twelfth, though I don't know me tomorrow, Hamlin 1222 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 2: right now is minus two eighty five to win the 1223 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 2: Comeback Player of the Year. Just if you're not familiar, 1224 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 2: that mean you have to bet two hundred and eighty 1225 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 2: five dollars to win back a hundred. 1226 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't see it. 1227 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 2: I would have. I would have, Like I said in May, 1228 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 2: I would have saw it. In June, I would have 1229 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: saw it. 1230 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: In July. 1231 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: I would have saw it. But now you got candidates 1232 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: like Tua Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson, all of these players 1233 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,080 Speaker 2: are in the in the mix now who had gotten 1234 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 2: hurt towards the end of last year and came back 1235 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: if to a play seventeen game games, yeah, forty touchdowns, 1236 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 2: fifteen interceptions, he's gonna be the comeback play. He's not 1237 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 2: gonna be the MVP, it's not good enough to be 1238 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 2: the MVP, but he'll be the comeback player of the year. 1239 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: There. Damar Hamlin, you think too would be in the 1240 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 1: running missing just what he missed for. 1241 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 2: For after all of just after the yes, yes, like that, 1242 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 2: that was huge. 1243 00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 1: That was the big story prior to Tomar Hamlin. 1244 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 2: And thank goodness, everybody seems to be all right and 1245 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 2: back play, yeah, right, and back play. 1246 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: But I just Damar Hamlin, I would have said that 1247 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 1: we're going to give it to him. There's no way 1248 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. 1249 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 2: But I think now at this point in the game, 1250 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna have to make some plays. He's gonna have 1251 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 2: to make some plays. And like it's kind of was 1252 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 2: lost in the in the mix that Damar Hamlin was 1253 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 2: a backup to the backup right he was starting because 1254 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 2: it was the end of the season and guys were hurt. Right, 1255 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 2: It's something to think about. A sleeper. Got a sleeper 1256 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: for you, all right, John metchi Ah, Yeah, is somewhere 1257 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: at your local sports book between three twenty five hundred 1258 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 2: to one cancer survivor yep is solely becoming C. J. 1259 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: Stroud's favorite target out down there in Houston. I could 1260 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,800 Speaker 2: see that one because the talent for John Matchi was 1261 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,959 Speaker 2: one that had him slated higher than Jamison Williams prior 1262 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: to his ACL then he got leukemia out of football 1263 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 2: for a while, by all accounts, has been impressing in camping, preseason. 1264 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: And also remember when BEMA had Waddle and Smith, he 1265 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: was a true freshman who was still getting burned and 1266 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 1: like they knew him and Jamison Williams were coming. So 1267 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 1: but it's something to think about. 1268 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 2: If you had asked me pretty much at any point 1269 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 2: prior to sitting here watching football now, I would have said, 1270 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,240 Speaker 2: Austin mar Hamlin without it out now, I think you 1271 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 2: just I think it's a little bit more open. And 1272 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 2: then a lot of people are given the credit for 1273 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 2: especially when you look at the odds minus two eighty five, 1274 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: he should be like minus five thousand you should have 1275 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 2: to play like five thousand dollars and win one hundred 1276 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 2: back if it was just going to be given to him. 1277 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so just look out, everybody, Just look out the 1278 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: michi one. I don't I don't like because the Texans 1279 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: are going to be so bad and I don't think 1280 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: he'll have that. I don't think he'll be that receiver 1281 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: that will be able to overcome a bad team and 1282 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: have these astronomical rookie stats that we've seen from receivers 1283 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: with great stats but on bad teams to start their career. 1284 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he can overcome that. That offensive line 1285 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 1: looks really, really bad. There's a reason why they almost 1286 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: had the number one pick, right. Like, when you are 1287 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: drafting one or two, you have a lot of holes 1288 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: on your team, and if your quarterback is one that 1289 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: you need to fill, then you definitely have a lot 1290 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: of holes because you don't even have a quarterback. If 1291 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: you ain't got a quarterback, you don't have nothing. Once 1292 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: you get that guy, then you got to feel in 1293 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 1: all the pieces. But once again, offensive line was one 1294 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: of the things that I took away from some of 1295 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the preseasons that I've seen where I've seen some starters, 1296 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: and some teams got some twos. 1297 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 5: Man. 1298 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, the Bengals in Green Bay, 1299 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: they got some twos. They got some guys that will 1300 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: be playing this year as you know, little Nixon bumps 1301 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: and bruises and injuries start to occur. I think the 1302 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: path the two, Yeah, there you go. And not only that, 1303 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: there's two young number twos in Cincinnati on the defensive 1304 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: backfield side. These two young men who one was injured 1305 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: last year and there was another guy that's just kind of, 1306 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, filling his role, just kind of getting into 1307 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the swing of things they think are really gonna add 1308 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: to Dax Hill and the rest of that secondary back there. 1309 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 1: But those two teams got some some one, some some 1310 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: number two guys that I think will be productive this year. 1311 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 1: But back to the Texans and Michi. I like the 1312 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I like the storyline behind it, but that team's gonna 1313 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: be so bad. I don't think he's a thousand yard 1314 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: receiver because CJ. Strauz not gonna have time to throw 1315 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: the ball this year. He's gonna be running for him 1316 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 1: his life all season long. And that's with an all 1317 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Pro left tackle on Larrymy Tunsel who they gave a 1318 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: big deal to last year. I believe you last year 1319 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: or year before last. So I think Damar Hamlin, I 1320 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 1: think is probably the runaway telling you. I'm telling you. 1321 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Be aware, Be aware. I put a 1322 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: lot of bread up there, you know, to make some bread. 1323 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 2: Though you should it should be if he was the 1324 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 2: runaway that people thought he was, he should be it 1325 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 2: should be much much bigger odds, much a thousand, at 1326 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 2: least drawing close to him. I think if somebody else 1327 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 2: comes back and has a strong year, you know who else, 1328 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 2: it ain't gonna be. You can bet this, it ain't 1329 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: gonna be the guy that lost last season because he 1330 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: was betting. It ain't gonna be cal that's throwing money. 1331 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 2: That's throwing money down to drains. 1332 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: What if he did, though, What if Calvin really came 1333 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,479 Speaker 1: back this year, let's say eighty nine catches, twelve hundred yards, 1334 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns, you'd have to name him come back player. 1335 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: More power to him, I could I get the shields 1336 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 2: will look the other way on that one hundred percent 1337 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 2: of the time, on that one right, no hit, that's 1338 01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 2: gonna be Calvin Ridley or Jameson Williams for that matter, 1339 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 2: who's gonna miss the first of these games of this season? 1340 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Nick Cope? Go ahead, what are you gonna do? Now? 1341 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Go ahead? Derail me. We had a guest coming up 1342 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: to go ahead, please well. 1343 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 3: Damar Hamlin did see the field today for the first 1344 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 3: time in seven months. Was credited with three tackles and 1345 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 3: the Bills preseason win against the Colts. For Indy, their 1346 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 3: rocky quarterback Anthony Richardson struggled to move that offense. He 1347 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 3: was seven of twelve sixty seven yards with an interception. 1348 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 3: Didn't really get to use his legs that much either. 1349 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,440 Speaker 3: Did see number one pick Bryce Young make his Panthers 1350 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 3: debut as well. He played three series, didn't pick up 1351 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 3: a first down. He was four of six for twenty 1352 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 3: one yards in a sack. Zach Wilson was pretty good 1353 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 3: on the other side for the Jets. He had one 1354 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three yards passing in a touchdown twenty 1355 01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 3: seven to nothing. New York beat Carolina. Jacksonville beat Dallas 1356 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 3: twenty eight to twenty three. Trevor Lawrence played a little bit. 1357 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,920 Speaker 3: He threw a pick on his first throw, but then 1358 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 3: he led a touchdown drive against Cowboys, who did not 1359 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 3: have Dak Prescott. Bears starting offense was impressive in their 1360 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 3: win against the Titans, justin fields three of three, one 1361 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty nine yards, two touchdowns, one of those 1362 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 3: to new wide out Dj Moore who turned a screen 1363 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 3: pass into a sixty two yard touchdown. To have one 1364 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 3: game going on right now, Eagles beating the Ravens thirteen 1365 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 3: to seven there in just about approaching halftime. But you're 1366 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 3: looking at guys like Marcus Mariota and Tanner McKee for 1367 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 3: Philly at quarterback in this one, and Josh Johnson's been 1368 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 3: the quarterback for the Ravens, he who could not lead 1369 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,080 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers against the Eagles in the NFC 1370 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 3: Championship game. In the NBA, Espeter reports the Sixers have 1371 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 3: ended James Harden trade talks and they intend to have 1372 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 3: him at training camp to start next season. College football 1373 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 3: reports say Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh's negotiated four game suspension 1374 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 3: with the NCAA for recruiting violations has been denied by 1375 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 3: the Committee on Infractions. They're not likely to have a 1376 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 3: resolution on this until next year, so that means Harbaugh 1377 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 3: is expected to coach all g games this season and 1378 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 3: then quickly guys finals in baseball. Braves crush the Mets 1379 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 3: twenty one to three. Matt Olson homer twice for Atlanta. 1380 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 3: He leads the big leagues with forty two of them 1381 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 3: now on the year. That is game one of two 1382 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 3: that they are playing today in Atlanta. Excuse me. In 1383 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 3: New York rather, Marlins beat the Yankees three to one, 1384 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 3: Blue Jay's fall to the Cubs five to four, raise 1385 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 3: over the Guardians six to five, Tigers beat the Red 1386 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 3: Sox six to two. Reds and Pirates got rained out 1387 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 3: to play a doubleheader tomorrow. 1388 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Guys, back to you. 1389 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Nick, and without further ado, let's get my guy 1390 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 2: in here. 1391 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: This was hanging out with one man last night. I 1392 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: Finn get his. 1393 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 2: Intro music because you know he loved that mess. There 1394 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 2: we go, I went away for to beat the job. 1395 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,440 Speaker 2: There we are, Damar, Jay Moore, How the hell are you? 1396 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 1: My guy? MLB broken at that reporter? 1397 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 9: What's going on doing? 1398 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Life is good? Life is good, my friend. 1399 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: But life is better for us than it is for 1400 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 2: the Anaheim Angels are the Los Angeles Angels, Avanah, whatever 1401 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: it is, it doesn't matter because no one is going 1402 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 2: to be paying attention to this team. After show, al 1403 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Tony walks away, Sorry, I noticed your team, bro. I 1404 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: know I'm coming in hot, but on on one, I 1405 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 2: mean one and two to the Blue Jays, one of 1406 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 2: two to the Braves, four games week against the Marriagers. 1407 01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,479 Speaker 2: Somehow the Giants let them win too, and right now 1408 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 2: they're in the process of losing their second straight game 1409 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,640 Speaker 2: to the Astros. Is not trading show hal Tany the 1410 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,920 Speaker 2: worst non moving baseball history up to this point, because 1411 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 2: I feel like it's gotta be. 1412 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 9: No, I'm still gonna say it's not, because at the 1413 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 9: end of the day, you still have to keep a 1414 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 9: generational talent like that, once in a lifetime talent like that. 1415 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 9: But I will say this, I feel like the Angels 1416 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 9: should have been more aggressive from the beginning of the season. 1417 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 9: I feel like they waited a little too long. They 1418 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 9: were desperate moves. It's almost as if their mentality was, Hey, 1419 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 9: let's see what we got, let's see where we're at 1420 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,120 Speaker 9: at a certain point in the season. Oh shoot, we're 1421 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 9: only a couple games out. We got a chance to 1422 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 9: make it. Okay, let's make some moves, you know. I 1423 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 9: feel like if we would have been aggressive and made 1424 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 9: moves from the beginning, that could have boosted morale on 1425 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 9: the team. That could have showed guys, hey, you guys 1426 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 9: are good enough, we're rocking with you. You're our guys. We're 1427 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 9: just going to get you some help, and let's go 1428 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 9: after let's go win it. So I think that was 1429 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 9: their mistake. I think this should have just been aggressive 1430 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 9: from the beginning and try to, you know, make some 1431 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 9: moves from the jump, and I'll tell. 1432 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: You tomorros Y v J verner Husky here, that's all. 1433 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: That's actually a good point that you do make, is 1434 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: that if they might have started making moves earlier, then 1435 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 1: they might have it might not have been so bad. 1436 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: It might've got some more talent in there to put 1437 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: around him, especially when you knew that Trot was gonna 1438 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 1: be out. Let's stay in that division, man, and go 1439 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: to my hometown Rangers as always my man. Max thirteen 1440 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: in is fits so far, ten hits, four runs, fifteen 1441 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: k's and only giving up one home run when he 1442 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 1: got to Texas. Everybody kept talking about that era, which 1443 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: is a four point zero two now down to a 1444 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,200 Speaker 1: three eight eight. I said, I've got to do is 1445 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: get it down to about a three one three two 1446 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 1: week good. And that's because in this two starts for 1447 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: US six innings, seven innings, got the win, and both 1448 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,439 Speaker 1: of them gets runs support five runs going game, six 1449 01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: runs the next game. What have you seen from Shirzer? 1450 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,080 Speaker 1: And did it him? And Verlander? I'm gonna throw him 1451 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: in there because he looked brilliant too. So far was it? 1452 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: They just needed to get out of New York Man 1453 01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and get to somewhere that actually got a chance to win, 1454 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 1: especially at their age. 1455 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 9: I truly believe, I truly believe that's what it was. 1456 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 9: Sometimes that's all players need, especially veterans when they still 1457 01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 9: got something left in the tank and they're trying to 1458 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 9: compete for a championship. That's all they need is just 1459 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 9: a change of senior. And you're obviously seeing Nigga with Bertlander. 1460 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 9: He's comfortable, he's back. 1461 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 4: Home, he's won. 1462 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 9: There, you got Suzer. Obviously he's happy to get out 1463 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 9: of New York. He's like, damn, I'm with the Rangers. 1464 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 9: I'm on the first place team. Let's go, baby, Let's 1465 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,200 Speaker 9: get after it. So you already know he's excited and ready, 1466 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,879 Speaker 9: you know, what I'm saying excited to be in Texas. 1467 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 9: So I'm happy for both of them. And it's great 1468 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 9: to see Shuzary rebound. I know he had a little 1469 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,600 Speaker 9: slump with the Mets at one point where he was 1470 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 9: getting touched up a little bit, but I'm happy to 1471 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 9: see him in Vertlander just you know, in a place 1472 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 9: where they can win and compete, man, because it's better 1473 01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 9: when they're in the playoffs and they're competing players like that. 1474 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 9: Why see the greats in the playoffs? 1475 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 1: Hey man, look my bad, bro. 1476 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 2: I know I asked you about your team all that, 1477 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,040 Speaker 2: but the idea to say Justin Verlander went home like 1478 01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 2: he's not. 1479 01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 1: A Tiger going to the Hall of Fame. 1480 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 2: Forget you. It's getting worse and worse by the day. 1481 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 2: But let's move to the National League. I want to 1482 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 2: talk about because I don't have any time right now 1483 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 2: for the Detroit Tigers, who decided today, of all days, 1484 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 2: to start hitting home runs August twelfth. 1485 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Go figure, I'm gonna say that I walked in. Y'all 1486 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: are up six to one. Everybody in the studio's all 1487 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: quite alike. Guyan Tiger's a winning guy. 1488 01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 2: Any anyway, the Dodgers have it on the six game 1489 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 2: win streak tearing up. It was cute did the Diamondbacks 1490 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,679 Speaker 2: were a top down O West. The Johns were competing. 1491 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Dodgers now six and in win streak. Everybody else is 1492 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 2: seven and a half back or further. What's been most 1493 01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 2: impressive for the Dodgers during this street It has to. 1494 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 9: Be the starting pitching. I mean, the starting pitching has 1495 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,559 Speaker 9: been lights out. Lance Line did his thing in two Stars. 1496 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 9: Julio yudis he you know what I'm saying. He showed up. 1497 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,320 Speaker 9: I don't think he gave up any runs when he pitched. 1498 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,600 Speaker 9: Bobby Miller sayme thing. I don't think he gave up 1499 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 9: any runs. Yarborough did his thing, and he had Gonsolin. 1500 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 9: You know, Gonsolin got he got hit. You know, he 1501 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 9: gave him some runs of one game he pitched. B 1502 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 9: Other than that, the starting pitching has been ights how 1503 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 9: it's the bullpen whos came in and gave up some 1504 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 9: runs here and there. But to me, that's been the 1505 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 9: most impressive, especially with the young boy Bobby Miller. 1506 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 7: I like him. I like him a lot. 1507 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Hey, the Marjay Martin and I got our NL central 1508 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: thing going with the brew Crew and the Reds. But 1509 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 1: I always think sports is better in the late late 1510 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: in the season, in the postseaque when certain teams are 1511 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,679 Speaker 1: still alive, even the Cowboys, the Lakers, and the Celtics, 1512 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,839 Speaker 1: right the Knicks. When the Knicks are good, the basketball 1513 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: feels different. It feels better. And when the Cubs are good, 1514 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: major League Baseball just feels better. It's rigly, it's the Ivy, 1515 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: It's it's the Cubbies. Man, it's it's it's it's it's 1516 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: you know, just so many legends that have come through there. 1517 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 1: Are they gonna sneak up and steal this division and 1518 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: make Martin and I both look stupid by picking the 1519 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Brewers and the Reds to win this thing? 1520 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 9: Yo, I'm gonna be right there with y'all looking stupid 1521 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:53,400 Speaker 9: because I have the Reds. I mean they could. Man, 1522 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 9: after winning today, they are only two games behind. We'll 1523 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 9: see what happens with this Milwaukee game. But yeah, they're 1524 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 9: officially two games behind right now for the league, and 1525 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 9: I think they could. I believe it was two or 1526 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,000 Speaker 9: three weeks ago I said that the Cubs were playing 1527 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 9: the best baseball of the season and they are keeping 1528 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 9: it going Bellingers hot, hotter than fish Greed doing it. 1529 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah's hot right now? 1530 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 9: So yeah they could. Man, And I got a question 1531 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 9: for you guys. Can we say that's the best division 1532 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 9: in baseball right now? You got three teams who are 1533 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 9: three games or less out of first place. No other 1534 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 9: team has more than two, No the division has more 1535 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 9: than two. Can we say that's the best division in 1536 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 9: baseball right now? Based off of that? 1537 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 2: It's a close One's I'd say it's a close one. 1538 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: I think you got the top end. 1539 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:37,200 Speaker 2: You know, they don't have a Dodgers or or Braves 1540 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 2: leading the way, but I woulde I. 1541 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 9: Think never would. 1542 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 2: I just I think those three teams Brewers, Cubs, and 1543 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,360 Speaker 2: Reds are all like looking in the mirror of Spider 1544 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 2: Man meme style, you know what I'm saying. Like, they 1545 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 2: all are right there about the same level. It's going 1546 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 2: to be a brutal thing to try to get out 1547 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 2: of that. What were you saying about the Pirates? 1548 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I was just going to say, just imagine 1549 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 9: if they wouldn't have fell off, because remember the hot 1550 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 9: start they got off, Yeah, at the beginning of the season. Now, 1551 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 9: and obviously Cardinal has been a disappointment. 1552 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 2: But this team in the American League, nine and one 1553 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 2: in their last ten. They're five and a half back 1554 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 2: of Vj's Rangers right now. The Seattle Mariners where I mean, look, 1555 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 2: since the All Star break, they've been crushing the ball, Like, 1556 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 2: what is this a team that we really should be 1557 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 2: looking out for going forward? 1558 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't see why. I don't see why they're not. 1559 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 9: I mean they're right there, like you said, they're hitting 1560 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,280 Speaker 9: the ball. Well, shout out to MLB bro JP Crawford. 1561 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 9: He's been doing this thing lately. He's been hot. I 1562 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,080 Speaker 9: really like what the Mariners are doing. 1563 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 4: Kirby. 1564 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 9: I love Kirby. They got some other good, good pictures 1565 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,559 Speaker 9: in their rotation. But yeah, definitely got to watch out 1566 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 9: for the Mariners. Man, they're sneaky. 1567 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: And you know, you never have to watch out for 1568 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 2: DeMar J. Moorries. I'll tell you what that guy he was. Hey, 1569 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,760 Speaker 2: you know we're out last night, VJ. 1570 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: Where were you? I saw the picture? I saw the picture. 1571 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Y'all ain't listen, don't start with me because they neither 1572 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 1: one of y'all hit my line, Like, yo, V you're 1573 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: going to see Rob the Knight. So I don't want 1574 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:56,880 Speaker 1: to hear that here. 1575 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 2: You know what, me and de Margin didn't talk about 1576 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,200 Speaker 2: it beforehand. We just set what up when we saw 1577 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 2: each other. 1578 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Ain't that right? 1579 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 4: Pal? 1580 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: Hey, appreciate you coming on the show. 1581 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 2: My guy have a great record of my friend Tonker 1582 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 2: Curtis and said what up? 1583 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: All right? Coming up next, Martin and VJ. 1584 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,759 Speaker 2: We'll look back in some more of the preseason football tomorrow. 1585 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,759 Speaker 2: Hammlin three tackles today at nice first game after suffering 1586 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 2: cardiac arrest on January. There, we'll get into that and 1587 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 2: more preseason actually Coming up next, Martin VJ, Fox Sports Radio. 1588 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Martin and VJ coming to you live from the ti 1589 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 2: rack dot com studios. 1590 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: You know vj's preseason football now. 1591 01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 2: But we saw this has been a great summer for documentaries, 1592 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 2: docu series, even the first episode of Hard Knocks, Aaron 1593 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 2: Rodgers in the beginning talking about. 1594 01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,799 Speaker 1: I think you should, I think you should. 1595 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers talking about I'm not going to give you 1596 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,520 Speaker 2: guys anything, and then goes forth and gives every lot 1597 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,800 Speaker 2: it's like, all right, but I mean no, it was. 1598 01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: It was. 1599 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 2: I'll just tell you what Aaron Rodgers is like an 1600 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 2: Instagram model the more that he talks, it's like the 1601 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 2: worst that it gets right. But when he's going in 1602 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 2: slow motion, when he's man, when he's got the way 1603 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 2: he throws that ball slow motion, he know, hey, he 1604 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 2: know every angle, he know all the angles, get all 1605 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 2: the likes. 1606 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: But as soon as you start talking, then you gotta 1607 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,679 Speaker 1: be like, hold on, bro, you did what the summer 1608 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: he did? You had darkness retreat. 1609 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 2: Anyway, Johnny Manziel came out to the documentary Johnny Football 1610 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: The Untold, and you know what I thought. One of 1611 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 2: the first thoughts that I had, what in the hell 1612 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 2: was college football media doing in that year? Because sitting 1613 01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 2: up there at the Heisman Trophy, candids ye. And we'll 1614 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about this at the bottom 1615 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,879 Speaker 2: of the next hour or two. At the Heisman Trophy, 1616 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:01,160 Speaker 2: you had, man, they tail and it's fake girlfriend that 1617 01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,719 Speaker 2: nobody decided to check up on. Yep, ye had Johnny 1618 01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Manziel and his rich oil. 1619 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: Family did nobody decide to check up on? 1620 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,639 Speaker 2: And then Colin Kleine, the only person who's actually has 1621 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:13,559 Speaker 2: an untold story? 1622 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Yep, I thought it was funny. That is a good 1623 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: way to look at him. Man. I love the documentary 1624 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: and see, in my opinion, this is how documentary is done. 1625 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 1: They're like, this is how you do it. We know 1626 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,679 Speaker 1: who won the games he played in, but you got 1627 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: to get me the backstory. I need the backstory. I 1628 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: need the juice, I need the crumbs, I need the 1629 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,000 Speaker 1: grit and the grind man. And that's what this gave us. 1630 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: The most shocking and the funniest part of this entire 1631 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 1: documentary is that his best friend made up a narrative 1632 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: that he comes from oil money and they were getting 1633 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:55,160 Speaker 1: fifty thirty sixty thousand dollars a pop to sign a 1634 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to. 1635 01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 2: This day, Oh, Johnny Manziel's daddy was yeah, because I 1636 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 2: don't know. 1637 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's but you notice how easy it was 1638 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: to believe they put it out there, And that's what 1639 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: we went with because that's what they were saying. And 1640 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: it's his nineteen year old friend who's gonna, you know, 1641 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 1: who's gonna make up this story in this background to 1642 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,920 Speaker 1: how the money or to explain where the lavish lifestyle 1643 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: is coming from. And then you just said to me, 1644 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: I thought the documentary is gonna indifferently like you know, 1645 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,840 Speaker 1: like they normally do right, Yeah, well part of. 1646 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 5: A lot of it. 1647 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 2: So part of the reason is part of the reason 1648 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 2: is generally like with man titeyo, Right, he comes out, 1649 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,719 Speaker 2: he makes his documentary, he's not married, he has a family, 1650 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 2: he's retired from the NFL. 1651 01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He had his experience in TV. Nothing. Nothing. 1652 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, I want to get out and 1653 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 1: tell my side of the. 1654 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 2: Story with Johnny Football, write this whole story. First of all, 1655 01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 2: Johnny Football, terrible nickname. We got to stop with just 1656 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 2: like I love it, no, but I but it's like Hi, 1657 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 2: smokes Johnny, this Johnny That all right, But with that, 1658 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 2: you know, generally it's like the end of the redemption arc. 1659 01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 2: You get to the other side of the rainbow and 1660 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 2: there's the pot of gold waiting there about. 1661 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,759 Speaker 1: How the life is over and life has been changed. 1662 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: So nah, man, they're taking they're doing beer bongs, and like, 1663 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:24,440 Speaker 2: I haven't shot gun shot gunned a beer since undergrad. 1664 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,360 Speaker 2: The last time I shotgunned to beer Denard Robinson was 1665 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,680 Speaker 2: the quarterback admission. 1666 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 1: And my last beer shotgun was way before that. 1667 01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 2: But the uninitiated the shotgun is when you stick your 1668 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 2: key in the bottom of it and you open the 1669 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,840 Speaker 2: top of it. It's got some type of science or whatever. 1670 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 2: So it makes it all flow out really fast. 1671 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: Airflow. Airflow. 1672 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I've shotgun beers down to the South. 1673 01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 1: That's what you do. You like you still shotgun beers? 1674 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 4: Now? 1675 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 1: I will? I know you see, I know it. I 1676 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: could just some guys will still, you know, do certain things. 1677 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 1: You can't really do it with a heavier beer. You 1678 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 1: gotta get something really light though, Oh wow, you get 1679 01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:00,040 Speaker 1: doesn't get drunk fast or something. 1680 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 8: Because you're drinking a whole can in like a few seconds. Like, 1681 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 8: that's not something you're gonna do with a night a 1682 01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:05,880 Speaker 8: canned ipa. 1683 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I used to like dark beer when I drained dark 1684 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 1: Beerary Guinness and Sam Adams Blue Moon beers like that. 1685 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:13,960 Speaker 8: No, only you only have it. You have a death 1686 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,839 Speaker 8: sentence if you want a shotgun Guinness. 1687 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 4: You know. 1688 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 2: My favorite moment in the documentary was though he watching 1689 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart and Nick Saban just freaking go at each 1690 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 2: other as Johnny football is just running ragged all over. 1691 01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 1: The Alabama defense. But my number one with a bullet. 1692 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,200 Speaker 2: I tweeted about it back when I was still had 1693 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 2: access to the site. 1694 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 1: I watched Cliff Kingsbury pressers for three and a half seats. 1695 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 2: I saw all right three and a half seasons in 1696 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 2: which he had the number one overall pick. You know, 1697 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 2: they made the playoffs one year, you know all of this. 1698 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:51,200 Speaker 2: I never never once saw him smile like he smiled 1699 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 2: when he was talking about how hungover Johnny Manzel was 1700 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:55,680 Speaker 2: at walkthrough. 1701 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: I have never seen Cliff Kingsbury. 1702 01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 2: Smile because, ass, that's with the I mean, that's want 1703 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 2: to talk about a blank eaton grin. He over there 1704 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 2: looked like Ronald McDonald with the smile on his face, 1705 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 2: looking like the Kool Aid Man. 1706 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:13,519 Speaker 1: But didn't make you like Johnny just a little bit more. 1707 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 10: It made me wonder, Cliff, what the hell were you 1708 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:21,599 Speaker 10: doing letting my star quarterback? If Cliff was a little 1709 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 10: bit more of an adult in the room, Johnny Madam 1710 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 10: watching the film, nothing, the NFL, nothing was gonna change. 1711 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:28,639 Speaker 1: I can't help but. 1712 01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,720 Speaker 2: Think, but I just that was my first second at 1713 01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,760 Speaker 2: last thought. It was like, this dude looks so like 1714 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: he looks like he was remembering the best of time. 1715 01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I was just like, that's what it was for them 1716 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,120 Speaker 1: back then, Like even the NFL that part was cool. 1717 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,760 Speaker 1: But the draft with the agent and him drinking as 1718 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,599 Speaker 1: much water and clean and clear he can to get 1719 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: weed or whatever was in the system. That he called 1720 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: his agent and said, hey, you know, I messed up. 1721 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 1: I bleeped up. And he's like, okay, what do you do? 1722 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 1: I just don't remember. I was at a mansion party 1723 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,840 Speaker 1: in the hills. Gotta go to the draft, remember, His 1724 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 1: agent said, Okay, so this is what we're gonna do. 1725 01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,639 Speaker 1: He's he's gonna have to pee on the second day. 1726 01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 1: We'll get there. We'll beat it for about twelve hours. 1727 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: He told his dad, you gotta go to the hospital 1728 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and just tell him like you got some kind of 1729 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,439 Speaker 1: chest paint or something like that. That way we can 1730 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 1: get there, do the interviews on the first day, do 1731 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,800 Speaker 1: some rounds, and then get out of there before they 1732 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,200 Speaker 1: pee him. And then it's like, okay, So we decided 1733 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: the mother was the one that was gonna go. So 1734 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 1: when you hear stuff like that and they're in the bathroom, 1735 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: p and p and pete, he keeps holding the cup up, 1736 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 1: own the cup up, and Johnny looks at him and goes, 1737 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,559 Speaker 1: I got him. 1738 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 2: I got this man, Like wow, Like the level of 1739 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 2: not got it, You didn't have it at all. We'll 1740 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 2: get into more of this next. In the past, the 1741 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: more of this next, Martin and VJ. Fox Sports Radio 1742 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,840 Speaker 2: and the NFC North, I want to talk about some 1743 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:48,640 Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks. 1744 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,800 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1745 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1746 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,799 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen. 1747 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 2: That's right, Martin VJ broadcasting live from the tirereck dot 1748 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 2: Com studios tire iraq dot com. We'll help you get 1749 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 2: there with an unmaxed election, fast, free shipping, free road 1750 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,000 Speaker 2: as a protection in over ten thousand recommending his dollars. 1751 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,559 Speaker 1: Tirerack dot com. It's the way that tire buying should be. VJ. 1752 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 2: You know there is a dark I was trying to 1753 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 2: make a darkness retreat, Troke. There's big shoes to fill 1754 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,840 Speaker 2: in Greenbee, big time shoes to fill in Green Bays. 1755 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, the current star of Haired Knocks, whether he 1756 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 2: likes it or not, is now in the Green the 1757 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 2: Green apples Gotham City is what I was thinking, Gotham City. 1758 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 2: He's out there in New York playing for Gang Green 1759 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 2: the New York Jets and no longer in Green Bay. 1760 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 2: Jordan love Air apparent now to the Green Bay thrown 1761 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,040 Speaker 2: at quarterback, and I think this look we've seen him look. 1762 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Impressive this off this preseason. 1763 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,559 Speaker 2: Justin Fields hasn't you know, obviously a lot of short passes, 1764 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 2: but still he looked decent. NFC North quarterbacks have been 1765 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 2: impressive to me so far this preseason, and I think 1766 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 2: that a lot of people, Richmond Webb included, who we 1767 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 2: talked to in the last hour, have the Lions kind 1768 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 2: of walking through that division, and I think Green Bay's 1769 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 2: gonna have something to say. 1770 01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Green Bay's gonna have something to say, but 1771 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna give the division to the Vikings. I 1772 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,679 Speaker 1: think the Viks still win the division. Gonna think kirk 1773 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: Cousins is right there with Golf as far as the 1774 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 1: two best quarterbacks. Depending a bound, who you're talking to 1775 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: in that division and for and for people that you 1776 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,720 Speaker 1: know kind of bang on kirk Cousins a lot, rightfully, so, 1777 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 1: whether you're talking about the primetime record or playoff record, 1778 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: what have you. But since joining the Minnesota Vikings, kirk 1779 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 1: Cousins has forty six wins. That's fifth in the NFL, 1780 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 1: completion percentage sixty seven point eight, seventh in the NFL, 1781 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 1: touchdowns the interception one fifty three to only fifty seventh 1782 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL, in a passer rating of one hundred 1783 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 1: point nine, seventh in the NFL. He's in the top 1784 01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 1: seven since he's got into Minnesota in pretty much all 1785 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,720 Speaker 1: the major statistical categories. You left off playoff wins. So no, no, 1786 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: but I but I understand that's gonna be the knock 1787 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 1: on him is playoff win. But there's not a There's 1788 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,799 Speaker 1: not a quarterback in this division other than Kirk Cousins. 1789 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 1: Who does Kirk Cousins have a playoff in He hasn't. 1790 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Has he ever won a playoff game? 1791 01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:21,960 Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph pushed off in the back of the end 1792 01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 2: zone one, Okay, So then therefore, and then the only 1793 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 2: quarterback in this division that has a playoff win for that, 1794 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,080 Speaker 2: Curry let me finish for the current team that he 1795 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:33,680 Speaker 2: plays for. 1796 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,800 Speaker 1: Golf has some, but those those were in LA with 1797 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the Rams. They weren't in Detroit, so he still got 1798 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,479 Speaker 1: to do it there in Detroit. I think Detroit is 1799 01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 1: a playoff team. I just don't think they win a division. 1800 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,080 Speaker 1: But I do think they're a playoff team. I just 1801 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:49,840 Speaker 1: don't think they win a division. They would have to 1802 01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,719 Speaker 1: get to eleven or twelve wins to win this division. 1803 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: Vegas has the over under an eight and a half 1804 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 1: on them, guys, So you're telling me they're getting four 1805 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 1: extra wins. Chris thinks ten is this division. I don't. 1806 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 1: I think eleven or twelve was this division. 1807 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,680 Speaker 2: I just know that Jordan Love has looked impressive to me, 1808 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 2: and he's been running all preseason with obviously Christian Watson, 1809 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,120 Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs, and again with. 1810 01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:17,600 Speaker 1: All that Jones played. No, I'm saying, I'm saying that 1811 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 1: Jones played, No, he's the first pass. What's to Aaron 1812 01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Jones out of the backfield. Aaron Jones suited up and played. 1813 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, especially when you're looking at 1814 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,640 Speaker 2: a guy like Matt Lafleur, who either Aaron Rodgers is incredible, 1815 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 2: he's an incredible coach, or there's gonna be a little 1816 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,960 Speaker 2: aggression to the meme. But I do think like because 1817 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,639 Speaker 2: right now his numbers are like comparable like Vince Lombardi 1818 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 2: in terms of just winning since since he came out right, 1819 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 2: but also like when you have seen in three his. 1820 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,360 Speaker 1: First three years and something crazy. 1821 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 2: That's got It's hard to shake a stick at that, 1822 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,600 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, It's hard to turn his 1823 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,040 Speaker 2: nose up at that. But we'll get to see what, 1824 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 2: you know, what really is going on here. But again, 1825 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,439 Speaker 2: first two seasons with Aaron Rodgers. Remember you know the 1826 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 2: Mark Murphy coming Aaron Rodgers, ain't they Aaron don't be 1827 01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: the problem here. They found a hybrid way to run 1828 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 2: the offense that lended up in two MVPs and back 1829 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 2: to back years for a guy that everybody was thinking 1830 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,479 Speaker 2: just might be done right. In terms of Aaron Rodgers, 1831 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,200 Speaker 2: I think that. 1832 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Made l Floor should be able to script a pretty. 1833 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,880 Speaker 2: Good offense in Green Bay. Again, they got the receivers 1834 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 2: another year into it. Aaron Jones is one of the 1835 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,880 Speaker 2: better backs in the NFC in my opinion. Yeah, and 1836 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 2: you have a lot of defense in Green Bay. It's 1837 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 2: gonna come down to a few things like special teams. 1838 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: Historically under the Floor they've been bad special teams. And 1839 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 2: even after hiring Rich Pasacia, who probably should have got 1840 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,120 Speaker 2: the Raiders a coach, your job over Josh mc daniels. 1841 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:41,519 Speaker 2: But that's NFL not NFL. You know, it probably should happen, 1842 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:42,800 Speaker 2: but hey, see what do I know? 1843 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:43,439 Speaker 1: Nice? 1844 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,000 Speaker 2: But I just know this, man, I feel like we're 1845 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 2: scratching the Packers off of this and I does not 1846 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 2: feel like the right time. I'm seeing people out there, 1847 01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:56,280 Speaker 2: people I respect. Alex Monico is a friend of the show, 1848 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 2: has been on the show million times. He's got the 1849 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 2: Bears for to one to win the division. 1850 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no no. 1851 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 2: I think they'll be better. I think Justin Field's will improve. 1852 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,600 Speaker 2: I think Dj Moore to Justin Fields is going to 1853 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 2: be a great connection. But in terms of the whole squad, tough. 1854 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880 Speaker 1: Look, yeah, he's playing, he's playing the money. He's playing 1855 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:16,800 Speaker 1: the money in the Vegas odds on that one. I'm 1856 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: with you, though, I don't think Green Bay is done. 1857 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,599 Speaker 1: I don't think Green Bay's. That's still a good football team. 1858 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: Now you have to replace Aaron Rodgers, but it's not 1859 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,479 Speaker 1: replacing Aaron Rodgers to a bad football team. That's still 1860 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 1: a good football team. And as you just said, they 1861 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 1: have a whiz kid, right. Aren't all these Shanahan guys 1862 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: off the Shanahan tree McVeigh, all these aren't they supposed 1863 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:37,960 Speaker 1: to be all the way? Even Mike McDaniel that when 1864 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 1: my beloved Miami Dolphins, aren't they supposed to be the 1865 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 1: new wonder Kids, the new wiz kids of the offensive 1866 01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 1: ways of the NFL. So there's still weapons there, and 1867 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 1: he's still got to have his quarterback and help his 1868 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: quarterback in coaches quarterback to get that done. I think 1869 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,040 Speaker 1: this is a tough division. I'm thinking that the Bears, 1870 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,880 Speaker 1: to me, they just feel like they just they don't 1871 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,440 Speaker 1: have enough. They'll be in some games, they'll be competitive 1872 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: to a point, but justin fields will probably lose a 1873 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,759 Speaker 1: game or two on an air it throw. I don't 1874 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,560 Speaker 1: like the schedule for them. Schedule's tough, and I just 1875 01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: think that there's three teams that are better than them 1876 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 1: in their division. I think they I think the Bears 1877 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,680 Speaker 1: finished last, but I think green Bay, Detroit and the 1878 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 1: Vikings are all nine plus win teams. They're all are 1879 01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 1: nine or eight and better. To me, I think I'm 1880 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 1: with you on green Bay. They're better than people. And 1881 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: what I said earlier on the show about twos, I'm 1882 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,720 Speaker 1: watching this Bengals and Packers game the other night, and 1883 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at toos, I'm like, okay, that guy can 1884 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,880 Speaker 1: play like that. Backup receive that guy. He's gonna get 1885 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,559 Speaker 1: some tick. He's gonna somebody's gonna have a hamstring or 1886 01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 1: have an ankle, or have a quad or have a show. 1887 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:46,559 Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta sit on some Sundays. Your twos better be 1888 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,599 Speaker 1: ready to play. This is where you get a look 1889 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 1: at some of those twos. People say preseason means nothing. 1890 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: That's bs. It means, it does mean something. You better 1891 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 1: go through it. If you want to be ready come 1892 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: kick off Sunday or open in Thursday night to play 1893 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 1: real football, you better go through these games. So I'm 1894 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 1: with you on Green Bay. I'm definitely not writing them all. 1895 01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,240 Speaker 1: And I still see a good football last year. I 1896 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 1: just think it just all came to a head and 1897 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Rogers the front office, it just and they created a 1898 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: bad aura and a bad vibe there and it was 1899 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,240 Speaker 1: just one of those years where and then they look 1900 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 1: like they look at home against the lines to finish 1901 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 1: it off and he has the nice pretty walk off 1902 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 1: with his arm around Randall Cobb even wanting the camera 1903 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 1: to move. But you made it a point to make 1904 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: sure you waited for Cob to put your arm round 1905 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 1: him to walk off, and you know, look up and 1906 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 1: take take in the last views of Lambeau. So he 1907 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: likes the dramatics there. But I'm with you on Green Bay, buddy. 1908 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: I'll say this, man, I'm concerned about the Vikings. 1909 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,880 Speaker 2: If you had asked me to start it like again 1910 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 2: the last offseason, I would have thought, you know what 1911 01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 2: people were catering on the thirteen wins, you know, fools 1912 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 2: goal whatever. Sure, but okay, at thirteen is still thirteen exactly. 1913 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 2: You only play seventeen. 1914 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Total, you know what I mean? And I get it. 1915 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,280 Speaker 1: They went and lost to Daniel Jones, So I'll pump 1916 01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the brakes a hole. And I saw that. 1917 01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 2: I saw that check down and Kirk Cousins threw on 1918 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:05,000 Speaker 2: fourth down five yards short of the line at the game. 1919 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,640 Speaker 1: I saw it. I remember, can't defend it. 1920 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 2: But this team, this Vikings team has lost a ton 1921 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:16,599 Speaker 2: of talent. The Darius Smith going, Eric Kendrick's going, Patrick Peterson, 1922 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,519 Speaker 2: I know he's on this on the back nine of 1923 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:19,080 Speaker 2: his career. 1924 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,559 Speaker 1: He's gone. You know. 1925 01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,960 Speaker 2: I feel like they are missing a lot of defensive 1926 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 2: talent and that's gonna get me costs for concertain. I 1927 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 2: don't love the fact that they're moving on from Dalvin 1928 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,559 Speaker 2: Cook over what seems to be a few million dollars 1929 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 2: here or there. That doesn't seem to be the best strategy. 1930 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,960 Speaker 2: And again, Kirk Cousins, again, you only seventh in all 1931 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 2: of those stats. That's fine, that's great, that's well and good. 1932 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 2: I can't tell you where like Joe Burrow ranksing those stats, 1933 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 2: or or Patrick Mahomes ranks and those stats, or all 1934 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 2: I know is playoff games. Right now, Daniel Jones is 1935 01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 2: won one, Kirk Cousins is also won one. 1936 01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,599 Speaker 1: Like that's where we're at. 1937 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's shoot, I got you. 1938 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,640 Speaker 2: That's a tough look, my rebuttal. 1939 01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:03,639 Speaker 1: To that would be a lot of times guys lose 1940 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: our guys leave teams, or teams lose guys based off 1941 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,920 Speaker 1: of guys just wanting to go somewhere else. Are they 1942 01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,400 Speaker 1: gonna get better money somewhere else? And I believe that 1943 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,559 Speaker 1: a lot of times teams don't fight hard to keep 1944 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,840 Speaker 1: certain guys because they have trust who that number two 1945 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 1: was last year, that's gonna now be a starter this year. 1946 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 1: At some point you have to get younger at certain positions. 1947 01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 1: Even when you're gonna Ladarius Smith and some of these 1948 01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 1: other guys that you're naming, we're getting a little long 1949 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:28,240 Speaker 1: in the tooth and getting towards the middle end of 1950 01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,639 Speaker 1: that of that of that physical good prime in the NFL, 1951 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,800 Speaker 1: and some teams just go, you know what, we don't 1952 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 1: want to pay them money or we don't have that 1953 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,120 Speaker 1: much money with the cat right now. We believe this 1954 01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 1: young kid, this young guy that's been playing can do 1955 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: the job, and it's cheaper for us. This is what 1956 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:42,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna do right now. That's what I feel like 1957 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: that that that could be. I'm not saying it is, 1958 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,880 Speaker 1: but in certain for certain situations, because that is a strategy. 1959 01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Teams will let guys go and people go, they lost 1960 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,760 Speaker 1: a ton of talent. The next year, you're like, damn man, 1961 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,160 Speaker 1: just linebacker, this second year guy from Tulsa. They knew 1962 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 1: it because they had them. 1963 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,000 Speaker 8: They see him every So who is that guy who 1964 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,000 Speaker 8: let's And I'm looking at their death chart right now, 1965 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,599 Speaker 8: I have never like who who is the guy? I'll 1966 01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:08,320 Speaker 8: go on their defense like I'm I'm just genuinely when 1967 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 8: this comes up about the vikings, I need to stress 1968 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,439 Speaker 8: with Martin saying, like they lost a lot and I'm 1969 01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 8: not sure who on that defense I really trust right now, 1970 01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,920 Speaker 8: And like I don't believe Kirk Cousins. Just keep doing 1971 01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,320 Speaker 8: this year in and year out to some point he's 1972 01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 8: gonna get up there. 1973 01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,639 Speaker 2: To the point when the Bears traded row Kwan Smith, 1974 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,120 Speaker 2: how could you? 1975 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: What are we doing? Well? 1976 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 2: If you watch Big ten football, you've known that Jack 1977 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,639 Speaker 2: Sanborn has been a missile for the last few years 1978 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 2: out of Wisconsin. Like to that point, you look at 1979 01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,600 Speaker 2: the red of the Vikings, it's gonna be tough. I 1980 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:45,120 Speaker 2: don't see maybe maybe just maybe you know, GM got 1981 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:45,760 Speaker 2: to figure it out. 1982 01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,040 Speaker 1: I just think this is a division. I got a 1983 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,080 Speaker 1: few guys for you. Now, remember this is being I 1984 01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,720 Speaker 1: think it's going in a second or theyre but uh, 1985 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: Biran Murphy Junior on that back end as a corner 1986 01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna step in probably for a guy like Patrick 1987 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Peterson that is that has moved on a young guy, 1988 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:04,040 Speaker 1: former second round pick. So the guys got talent. They're 1989 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,840 Speaker 1: not the only team that looked for him. There's a 1990 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:07,880 Speaker 1: guy that I would that I would just throw out 1991 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,839 Speaker 1: there with you also too, you're selling short of Jordan Hicks. 1992 01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:11,160 Speaker 7: You're not. 1993 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 8: You're not feeling you're not. I'm not sure what Byron 1994 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 8: Murphy Junr has done so far. 1995 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, he's just gotten to the league, though, Chris, is 1996 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sometimes teams lose guys and let guys 1997 01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,800 Speaker 1: go on because they believe what they have there can 1998 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,760 Speaker 1: replace it. I'm that's just a strategy or rebuttal to 1999 01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 1: you guys telling me they lost all these guys. You're right, 2000 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,599 Speaker 1: they did lose a lot of guys, but maybe they 2001 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 1: let some of these guys go because they can They 2002 01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:40,280 Speaker 1: may trust who theirs I can't pick up. 2003 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 8: That's not something you do for someone who's in aspirations 2004 01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 8: this division, though. 2005 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,080 Speaker 1: That's the problem. No, No, I don't believe that because 2006 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,960 Speaker 1: my rebuttal to you during break was they have a 2007 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,760 Speaker 1: top ten offense now, people their defense, Abaut. You're right, 2008 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,640 Speaker 1: the defense struggle last year, but when you're scoring in 2009 01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,040 Speaker 1: the top seven in the NFL, you're that's how you 2010 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 1: go thirteen and four. They won a lot of close 2011 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 1: games last year with this defense. 2012 01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:08,360 Speaker 8: Okay, player usually end up going the opposite way the 2013 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 8: next year. 2014 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,400 Speaker 2: That top ten offense now I'm dealing. It's not the 2015 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,680 Speaker 2: same guy that he once was. Right he moved on 2016 01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 2: to Carolina. But it helps to have a competent route 2017 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 2: runner opposite a guy like Justin Jefferson Jodis because you 2018 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,719 Speaker 2: gotta check him, right, Jordanadison, Jordison know he drives fast. 2019 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,000 Speaker 1: We'll see how he plays. You know, well, you know 2020 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,480 Speaker 1: the story came out he was going to an emergency. 2021 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,400 Speaker 1: I hated the fact that they did. I'm not sure 2022 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,040 Speaker 1: that was ever confirmed. That was just a room. I 2023 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,640 Speaker 1: just would have to say, that's elite spen regardless. I 2024 01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm sorry, I don't give it. 2025 01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 8: That's still that's still not exactly an excuse how much 2026 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 8: I don't care. 2027 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,800 Speaker 1: That's fast too. But Jordan, you guys aren't going to 2028 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 1: act like Jordan Addison is not going to step in. 2029 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 1: I believe him, and I believe Jordan Adison is an 2030 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:55,559 Speaker 1: eight fifty nine hundred yard could be a thousand yard 2031 01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,000 Speaker 1: receiver and that offense because all eyes are over there, 2032 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna see one on one and what's his prime thing? 2033 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 1: He does so well that everybody's talked about that won 2034 01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,400 Speaker 1: him to belit in the cough when he's with Pittsburgh 2035 01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,080 Speaker 1: before he transferred s C. He is a pristine route runner. 2036 01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna get one on one coverage to the weakest, 2037 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,600 Speaker 1: the weaker corner, the stroggle corner of the safety is 2038 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 1: watching Jefferson. Just this is just what I'm saying about minutes. 2039 01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: We'll talk about this all year. But hold on. 2040 01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 2: So you're telling me that there's gonna be two thousand 2041 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,720 Speaker 2: yard receivers on Minnesota this year. 2042 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I do. I think them, and I 2043 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,920 Speaker 1: think them in Miami. Miami did it last year. So 2044 01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,120 Speaker 1: I think Waddle and Wade and uh Hill do it again. 2045 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 1: They'll both go over a thousand yards. There'll be two 2046 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 1: one thousand yard receivers on the Minnesota Vikus this year. Yeah, 2047 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm going with that. Put it on the board. Put 2048 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 1: on the board, on the board, on the board, calling 2049 01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:46,799 Speaker 1: White Sox games. Put it on the bar. What's his name, 2050 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: No he's not. He retired, he retired, all right? 2051 01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,800 Speaker 2: In that case, put it on the board. I want 2052 01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,559 Speaker 2: that on the board. I want that on the board. 2053 01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:55,639 Speaker 2: We gotta get put it. 2054 01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 1: With the accuratness. Hey, Brandon, you you know what, man 2055 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,720 Speaker 1: deocracy brother, I appreciate it. Man, Brady is quick. No, 2056 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,759 Speaker 1: he retired. Guys coming up next. 2057 01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Well, this guy finally finally got out of the shadow, 2058 01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,880 Speaker 2: and the news surrounding it is kind of just ridiculous. 2059 01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,920 Speaker 1: What world do we live in these days? Martin and 2060 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,120 Speaker 1: VJ Fox Sports Radio. 2061 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 2: Martin and VJ coming to you live from the ti 2062 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 2: raq dot com studios. Our second grand winner will be 2063 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,160 Speaker 2: drawing this Sunday to win a set of four brand 2064 01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 2: new tires in the Summer tire X Sweepstakes. 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We have seen some concerning news 2075 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 2: out of the nation's capital. Yeah, I'm not talking about Congress, 2076 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the commanders. Eric b. 2077 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:09,639 Speaker 1: Enemy. 2078 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,840 Speaker 2: You may have heard of him. He's everybody's favorite. We're 2079 01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,320 Speaker 2: not gonna hire a black coach, answer, Eric Beenemy. You 2080 01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,880 Speaker 2: may have heard of him from his exploits in the 2081 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:23,240 Speaker 2: Super Bowl a few years. 2082 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 1: In the last few years. 2083 01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,120 Speaker 2: You may have heard of him from his residency in 2084 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. You may have heard of him 2085 01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,759 Speaker 2: if you read a little bit of the profiles about 2086 01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,880 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl how he and Patrick Mahomes installed the 2087 01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,880 Speaker 2: plays that had to Filadelphia Eagles literally running into each 2088 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,240 Speaker 2: other as the safeties were trying to rock and roll 2089 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 2: in the end zone. Two of the three Super Bowl 2090 01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:50,600 Speaker 2: touchdowns that they scored. Eric Bennemy put those in on 2091 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 2: Saturday night. That that's the same Eric Enemy. 2092 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:53,639 Speaker 1: That's the same guy. 2093 01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,040 Speaker 2: Same guy now moved across the country, took a lateral job. 2094 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:04,000 Speaker 1: In Washington, and apparently, you know, the commanders don't like 2095 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:08,160 Speaker 1: the way he's talking to them. The commander said, mister 2096 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 1: b Enemy, could you please be a little nicer than me. 2097 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not a big fan of being 2098 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:17,240 Speaker 1: yelled at like this. No, never you mind, we haven't 2099 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,920 Speaker 1: won a damn thing in forever. Ever, Never you mind 2100 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:24,200 Speaker 1: that we're starting a fifth round to Sam Howell quarterback 2101 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:24,639 Speaker 1: this year. 2102 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,839 Speaker 2: Never you mind, we have some pretty good skilled players. 2103 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 2: Maybe we could none of that. I'm sorry, b, who 2104 01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,960 Speaker 2: the hell are you? This is how we do things 2105 01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,360 Speaker 2: in Washington. That's not how you do things in Washington. 2106 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 2: This pissed me off. 2107 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,719 Speaker 1: This lit me up because who was my NFC team 2108 01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,120 Speaker 1: that I've been bragging about for the last three weeks 2109 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 1: that I'm telling people because of Eric b Enemy and 2110 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,160 Speaker 1: all those weapons you just mentioned. Watched them to make 2111 01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,719 Speaker 1: some noise in the NFC. Ease. 2112 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,840 Speaker 2: Oh they're making noise and you look stupid already, you know, 2113 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 2: not making noise. You know any friends I had off 2114 01:37:58,120 --> 01:37:59,720 Speaker 2: that video clip I put out, you know any friends 2115 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 2: from the hit me up? It was like about time 2116 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:05,080 Speaker 2: you give our Redskins because some people back home. So 2117 01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 2: my friends still calling the Redskins. But you get me, 2118 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,599 Speaker 2: you get my You give my squad some props, man, 2119 01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,439 Speaker 2: we gonna do. And I said, listen, I really do 2120 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:14,800 Speaker 2: like this team. 2121 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that it happens to be from 2122 01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 1: the DNV so I'm showing love back home, but I 2123 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 1: really do like this team. And then this comes out 2124 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,479 Speaker 1: and it shows me not never mind, I'm glad I 2125 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 1: didn't write that down in pen. That's coming off my board. 2126 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,519 Speaker 1: I don't believe in the commanders no more. Take it off. 2127 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 1: You got to take it off the board. But you 2128 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:39,559 Speaker 1: got y'all just talking about when you got softness, when 2129 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,759 Speaker 1: you got put in, when you got put in pops, 2130 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,040 Speaker 1: You ain't got no ice berg. You got putting pops 2131 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,200 Speaker 1: in your locker room, soft in the locker room. You 2132 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 1: don't like how a two time Super Bowl winning a 2133 01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,679 Speaker 1: coordinator who the best player in the league pre like 2134 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 1: like lives by. The best player in the league is 2135 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,400 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. He's telling people, Hey, dude, I wouldn't be 2136 01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,080 Speaker 1: the player today if it weren't for him. He's the coach, 2137 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 1: hard guy. He's the guy that's gonna get in your face. 2138 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,040 Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. Man said, y'all ain't got 2139 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 1: no heart. So then I went in there off my board. 2140 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: MOhm said this. 2141 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 2: You have to understand he loves you when he's gonna 2142 01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 2: try to get the best out of you every single 2143 01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 2: every single day. 2144 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 1: But you don't want that. You go cry to the 2145 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,000 Speaker 1: head coach. That's the part that people not taught. You 2146 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,559 Speaker 1: went and cried to the head coach, and then the 2147 01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,479 Speaker 1: head coach kind of sat there and I don't know 2148 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,639 Speaker 1: if you threw him under the bus at the press conference, 2149 01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,720 Speaker 1: but he didn't stand up and back his offensive coordinator. 2150 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,640 Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say on it, I'm gonna let this 2151 01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:37,080 Speaker 1: go for I start really getting going since Eric bne 2152 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,240 Speaker 1: Me was the offensive coordinator calling the offense in Kansas City, 2153 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,680 Speaker 1: cause somebody guess where they were in points and touchdowns? 2154 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,760 Speaker 1: So I just guess first, First, do you know where 2155 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:52,840 Speaker 1: Washington was in the same timeframe thirty first and thirty second? Hello? Hello, 2156 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,280 Speaker 1: you're at the bottom and you got this dude, and 2157 01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 1: he's coaching too hard. He's yelling at me because I'm 2158 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 1: a ground man in it. Man, y'all soft they wake man? 2159 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,120 Speaker 1: You go ahead, man, because I can go on. This 2160 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:10,639 Speaker 1: will go ahead. 2161 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,360 Speaker 2: That gets me to one of the things is is 2162 01:40:13,680 --> 01:40:20,720 Speaker 2: Ron Rivera he's been doing this too long to be 2163 01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 2: this bad. Immediate it's part of the job, but I 2164 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,240 Speaker 2: mean he's been doing this too long to be this 2165 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,800 Speaker 2: bad at media, right because last year while they're in 2166 01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,840 Speaker 2: you know, they're not necessarily in the NFC hunt, but 2167 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 2: like there's like six weeks into the season, and they 2168 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,599 Speaker 2: have obviously not winning too many games. 2169 01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:43,559 Speaker 1: Whose fault is it? 2170 01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,080 Speaker 2: Why are you struggling that the rest of the nfcas 2171 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:50,600 Speaker 2: is balling, He turns around and says, the quarterback, the quarterback. 2172 01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,599 Speaker 1: All right, wow wow, And it's like that was it? 2173 01:40:55,040 --> 01:41:00,800 Speaker 1: The quarterback? Quarterback? Can an expound ron no quarterback to 2174 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:01,280 Speaker 1: play better? 2175 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 2: And sure enough, Carson Wentz is posted Instagram pictures wearing 2176 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:09,000 Speaker 2: three different outfits as he's training, as he's as he's 2177 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 2: getting ready for this season. 2178 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: He's currently unemployed looking for a job, but still when 2179 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,519 Speaker 1: he's in the room, he's in the room, that's like 2180 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,759 Speaker 1: me and Veda saying, how come we don have ratings? 2181 01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,160 Speaker 1: The producer, the producer, Yeah, no, its a producer, even 2182 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,960 Speaker 1: the engineering please it doesn't play. That's get him out here, 2183 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:34,160 Speaker 1: his producer. No, no, no, we're the ones doing it exactly. 2184 01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,600 Speaker 1: It's us. We're the ones that are going you know 2185 01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,599 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like Coch, what are we talking about? Soft? 2186 01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,120 Speaker 2: And then to come out here and be like, oh well, 2187 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:45,040 Speaker 2: I just think some of the guys didn't run. 2188 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,040 Speaker 1: Did you hire him or not? Thank you? Did you 2189 01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:50,559 Speaker 1: hire him or not? Man? Did you go and pick him? 2190 01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:52,559 Speaker 2: Because it's not like you just wanted her out out 2191 01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 2: there and picked up Eric p Enemy off the street 2192 01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,840 Speaker 2: like he was holding the sign we'll coach for food. 2193 01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:59,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was. 2194 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 2: He was the coaching waiting and in Kansas City, a 2195 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,760 Speaker 2: j you's gonna be waiting for a long time. 2196 01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but nobody knows when. And he's gonna walk 2197 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 1: up as I'm. 2198 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 2: Saying, he's gonna be waiting for a long he's waiting 2199 01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,759 Speaker 2: for a long ass time. He was a coaching waiting 2200 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,639 Speaker 2: out there. Hell, he might be the coaching wedding in Washington. 2201 01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 1: Well, remember my theory was, I thought it was a 2202 01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,799 Speaker 1: wink wink kind of hey, come take the offensive coordinator position. 2203 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,920 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna fire revert. Now. Now I think he 2204 01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,280 Speaker 1: gets fired this year. I think because they wanted to ball. Yes, 2205 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:30,439 Speaker 1: knew exactly. I think he gets fired this year. And 2206 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,000 Speaker 1: Eric be Ene me as I as I thought would 2207 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,800 Speaker 1: happen when I said this last year, or when he 2208 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:36,800 Speaker 1: got the deal or got to move there, got the 2209 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,679 Speaker 1: job there. This was a wink wink. It felt like, listen, 2210 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,439 Speaker 1: come take the cordator job. Now we'll fire this guy. 2211 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,320 Speaker 1: And then you'll be able to put your imprint all over. 2212 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: But he right now, he knows he got some softies, 2213 01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:51,320 Speaker 1: he got some sharmans, He got some sharmans among this, 2214 01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:53,680 Speaker 1: this this group of men that he already know. You 2215 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,280 Speaker 1: can't change that you saw off you soft that don't change. 2216 01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,400 Speaker 2: It's like very much like with Sean Page did at 2217 01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,120 Speaker 2: the start of this season when he sat down with 2218 01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:06,280 Speaker 2: Jared Bell and basically scorched durfed the entire everything. It's like, look, 2219 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:10,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna be different. We're going to be do agree 2220 01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 2: or disagree with the content and his delivery. But he's like, look, 2221 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,519 Speaker 2: last year was last year, and this year is gonna 2222 01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:19,600 Speaker 2: be this year. Terry McLaurin and y'all, Brian Robinson and 2223 01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,479 Speaker 2: all that, y'all were a feel good story, right your 2224 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,160 Speaker 2: coach me cancer, Brian Robinson got shot. Yeah, I'm not 2225 01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,280 Speaker 2: even making light of that. I mean, Lord went through, Yeah, 2226 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:32,200 Speaker 2: this went through. However, last year was last year and 2227 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:33,120 Speaker 2: this year is this year. 2228 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, because even with all of that, they finished eight 2229 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: and nine last year. Guys. That's why I thought, I think, man, 2230 01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:41,760 Speaker 1: there eight and nine, this could be the team in 2231 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,280 Speaker 1: the NFC with the because they look at their weapons, 2232 01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 1: but your weapons are the saw. And he's trying to 2233 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,360 Speaker 1: coach the weakest part of the team. Their defense was 2234 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,920 Speaker 1: number three overall last year. I think they'll be fine 2235 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,320 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. That was without Chase Young, 2236 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,719 Speaker 1: who was their top first round picked a few years ago. 2237 01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,919 Speaker 1: The offense is horrific, and you got the best coordinator 2238 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,960 Speaker 1: mine in the league. And he's too and he's too tough, 2239 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:09,720 Speaker 1: he's too mean. Get dude, wow, this just and it's 2240 01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 1: like the thing is you can't argue with the soft area. 2241 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:14,519 Speaker 2: You just can't argue with the results. That's part of 2242 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,080 Speaker 2: the issue. Only be one thing. Robert Sala just popped 2243 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,640 Speaker 2: up on the screen. It'd be one thing if you're 2244 01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,000 Speaker 2: talking about Robert Sala as a head coach, right, you 2245 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,519 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's just in general, 2246 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 2: he just pops on the TVs. No shade to Robert Sala. 2247 01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:28,599 Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's doing any of. 2248 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,720 Speaker 1: This type of stuff. But it'd be one thing. 2249 01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,400 Speaker 2: If you got no playoff wins in your career as 2250 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,920 Speaker 2: a head coach, I'll all Robert Robert Robert Soliz be 2251 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,439 Speaker 2: one thing if that was the case, or Matt Patricia, 2252 01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 2: I think in Detroit. 2253 01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:42,519 Speaker 1: I mean, no, that's a good one. But you But 2254 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 1: like yo, every. 2255 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,760 Speaker 2: Enemy has been delivering results, and you know what, now 2256 01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 2: it's time to kick the nick cope to get some 2257 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:50,840 Speaker 2: of these sports results and see if we can get 2258 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 2: this last half hour the show going off without a hitch. 2259 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:54,479 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that. 2260 01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:01,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for not being and too aggressive and 2261 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 3: you know, too harsh with that toss. 2262 01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,280 Speaker 1: It was nice. I appreciate it. 2263 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,479 Speaker 2: You know, I realized I had it all for the 2264 01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:08,479 Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. 2265 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:09,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have any left for you. 2266 01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:14,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate it all, right, guys. Plenty of NFL preseason 2267 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 3: action today. We got to see number one overall pick 2268 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,160 Speaker 3: Bryce Young make his Panthers debut, and it was a 2269 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 3: tough go for me. He played three series, didn't even 2270 01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:24,720 Speaker 3: pick up a first down. He was four of six 2271 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 3: twenty one yards, took a sack, and Carolina lost to 2272 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,000 Speaker 3: the Jets twenty seven and nothing. Zack Wilson looked pretty good, though. 2273 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,559 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence threw a pick on his first throw of 2274 01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:35,320 Speaker 3: the day, but then he came back to lead a 2275 01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:38,680 Speaker 3: touchdown drive against Cowboys Jacksonville, winning that one twenty eight 2276 01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,640 Speaker 3: to twenty three. Tamar Hamlin making his triumphant return for 2277 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,679 Speaker 3: the first time since suffering cardiac arrest on the field 2278 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:46,479 Speaker 3: seven months ago. 2279 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,679 Speaker 1: He had three tackles for the Bills. 2280 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,040 Speaker 3: On the other side, Colts rooky quarterback Anthony Richardson got 2281 01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,200 Speaker 3: a lot of run, but he struggled to move the 2282 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,840 Speaker 3: India offense consistently. He was seven of twelve sixty seven 2283 01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,599 Speaker 3: yards and a pick. Bills beat the Colts twenty three nineteen. 2284 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,120 Speaker 3: Bears starting offense look good, though, justin fields. He was 2285 01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,080 Speaker 3: three of three one hundred and twenty nine yards and 2286 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 3: two touchdowns. One of those went to New White out 2287 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 3: DJ Moore. He turned a screen pass into a sixty 2288 01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:15,639 Speaker 3: two yard touchdown. Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker the third 2289 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,759 Speaker 3: return to practice today. He's been out since early camp 2290 01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 3: with a groin injury. Packers tight end Tyler Davis towards 2291 01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 3: acl and Friday's preseason game. He is out for the year, 2292 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,720 Speaker 3: so too is Browns linebacker Jacob Phillips. He suffered a 2293 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:33,000 Speaker 3: torn peck yesterday in the NBA. ESPN reports the Sixers 2294 01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:36,439 Speaker 3: have ended James Harden trade talks. They intend to have 2295 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,599 Speaker 3: him at training camp to start the season. College football 2296 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:43,640 Speaker 3: reports a Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh's negotiated four game suspension 2297 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,800 Speaker 3: with the NCAA for recruiting violations has been denied for 2298 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 3: not likely to get a resolution on this until next year, 2299 01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:54,360 Speaker 3: so that means Harball is expected to be available to 2300 01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:57,839 Speaker 3: coach all games coming up this season. Finals in baseball, 2301 01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,960 Speaker 3: Braves over the Mets in game one of a double 2302 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,000 Speaker 3: header twenty one to three. Marlins beat the Yankees three 2303 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,800 Speaker 3: to one, comes over the Blue Jays five to four. 2304 01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,120 Speaker 3: We had to walk off in Tampa courtesy of. 2305 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,040 Speaker 2: The race playing with tolight On on one and two 2306 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 2: this day to set swing flapball races center, pie up. 2307 01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 1: That tea in the alley. It's the base head. Here 2308 01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:22,559 Speaker 1: comes loud to score the winning run and the Rays 2309 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,519 Speaker 1: gets three of the night and beat the Guardians sick 2310 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,559 Speaker 1: to mine. Courtesy of the Rays. 2311 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,920 Speaker 3: Radio network also had the Tigers beating the Red Sox 2312 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:35,000 Speaker 3: six to two. Live scores quickly got twins on top 2313 01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:36,840 Speaker 3: of the Phillies eight to one as they headed the 2314 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,160 Speaker 3: ninth Astros in control against the Angels nine to two 2315 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:43,040 Speaker 3: in the eighth inning, Brave's going for that doubleheader sweep. 2316 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 3: They're now up four to nothing in the eighth inning 2317 01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,439 Speaker 3: on the Mets. Brewer is out in front of the 2318 01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,759 Speaker 3: White Sox three to two as they head to the ninth, 2319 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:53,200 Speaker 3: and the Diamondbacks shutting out the Padres three to zip. 2320 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,240 Speaker 3: You also got Rangers and Giants to run a piece 2321 01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,840 Speaker 3: in the second. Dodgers with an early three to one 2322 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 3: lead on the Rockies as they head to the third. 2323 01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:00,920 Speaker 1: Guys back to you. 2324 01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:05,880 Speaker 2: Let me tell you someth Nick Cokee the Guardian's money line. 2325 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was such an atrocious beat today. Yes, it's 2326 01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,599 Speaker 1: such an atrocious beat. Did it come in hell? 2327 01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:13,800 Speaker 5: Not? 2328 01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:15,240 Speaker 1: Didn't come in hell? 2329 01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 9: Not? 2330 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,720 Speaker 1: They lost by one. It was the four runs in 2331 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,160 Speaker 1: the night, Tenny, three runs in the night, Denny, something 2332 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:23,920 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I. 2333 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,920 Speaker 2: Mean three to one league for most of the game. 2334 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,519 Speaker 2: Then they extended the five win boom. 2335 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,920 Speaker 3: It was a run in the seventh or running the eighth, 2336 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:31,960 Speaker 3: and then three more in the ninth, so it was 2337 01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,559 Speaker 3: it was all late there for Tampa. 2338 01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:38,559 Speaker 1: Bullpens are really struggling across the league right now as 2339 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,000 Speaker 1: a whole. If you just look through the my Rangers 2340 01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,160 Speaker 1: right now, are warming up Anderson in the bottom of 2341 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 1: a second basis loaded no outs. It's only a one 2342 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,679 Speaker 1: to one game. It's only a one to one game, 2343 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,920 Speaker 1: and the Bulls being called in in the bottom of 2344 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,800 Speaker 1: a second. And I love this kid. He's a rookie. 2345 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: I saw his first start. He had nine strikeouts his 2346 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 1: his major league debut debut for the Rangers. But you 2347 01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,160 Speaker 1: know this is gonna get real ugly, real fast if 2348 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:02,760 Speaker 1: they don't get out of this Senate and you're gonna 2349 01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,559 Speaker 1: bring the bullpen. But I'm seeing bullpens just blow leads, 2350 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:07,280 Speaker 1: seriously blow leads now. 2351 01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 2: So I want to go back to the Johnny football 2352 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,640 Speaker 2: documentary Untold on Netflix. I highly recommend checking it out. 2353 01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:15,479 Speaker 2: It's definitely worth an hour and twenty minutes of your life. 2354 01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 2: I'll watched it twice so far. I liked it that much. 2355 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,519 Speaker 2: The person who comes out looking the best Johnny. Johnny's 2356 01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:28,800 Speaker 2: agent Eric Berkhart, is a g I'm available, okay. I 2357 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:33,360 Speaker 2: would like you to know I'm available for representation. The 2358 01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:39,759 Speaker 2: Smoke and Mirrors that was put on the Dray Farmer, 2359 01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:44,000 Speaker 2: Mike Patton and the Cleveland Browns twenty fourteen brain Trust 2360 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,960 Speaker 2: man goodness gracious. I mean, I say this in the 2361 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,439 Speaker 2: most endearing way possible, but Johnny Football scammed his way 2362 01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:57,120 Speaker 2: to the number one overall pick. One hundred percent. I'm 2363 01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:58,920 Speaker 2: not number I'm sorry. I'm scanned his way to the 2364 01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:00,840 Speaker 2: first round. Thank you, first round, thank you, thank you, 2365 01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,080 Speaker 2: thank you forgiving me. Scanned his way to the first round, 2366 01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,639 Speaker 2: to the point that people were talking about him as 2367 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,920 Speaker 2: the potential number one overall pick. And when I went 2368 01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:13,280 Speaker 2: I went back and watched the two games versus Alabama. Okay, 2369 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,840 Speaker 2: after watching the highlights during the documentary, I was like, 2370 01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:17,599 Speaker 2: I got to go back and. 2371 01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 1: Put myself in the moment. 2372 01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,120 Speaker 2: First of all, it's gonna be absolutely hilarious if you 2373 01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:22,840 Speaker 2: go back and do it. 2374 01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 1: To hear Gary Danielson talk. 2375 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,080 Speaker 2: About how fast the Texas A and M is playing, 2376 01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,320 Speaker 2: because now at the football that we watched, they're playing 2377 01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:30,080 Speaker 2: regular speed. 2378 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:31,759 Speaker 1: You know, exactly exactly. 2379 01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,800 Speaker 2: He makes a point about substituting and all this every 2380 01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:38,120 Speaker 2: single time. But at the time it was revolutionary. But 2381 01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:41,920 Speaker 2: when you just sit there and watch him actually win, 2382 01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,920 Speaker 2: try to win from the pocket, they're like, yo, this 2383 01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,439 Speaker 2: is not a this is not a first round quarterbackt 2384 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:48,400 Speaker 2: all at all. 2385 01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:49,479 Speaker 1: This was the fight. 2386 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,639 Speaker 2: And it's easy to say now ten years down the line. 2387 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 2: Right at the time, I was all swept up in 2388 01:50:55,080 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 2: a hype two and you go watch the games. 2389 01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,640 Speaker 1: I was about to say it was hype because he 2390 01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:03,759 Speaker 1: was proving he was wrong. Yeah, he was proving people wrong. 2391 01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:08,280 Speaker 2: But the idea, especially when you go back and juxtapose 2392 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:11,240 Speaker 2: it against like Mike Sando's quarterback tiers he puts out 2393 01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 2: every year, and the Tier one guys. The main delineation 2394 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,519 Speaker 2: between the Tier one guys and everybody else is the 2395 01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,760 Speaker 2: Tier one guys can win from the pocket. 2396 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,280 Speaker 1: Johnny Football was not beating Alabama from the pocket. You know, 2397 01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 1: he was beating them just by playing football. Like but 2398 01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,600 Speaker 1: the guy watched zero film. I mean he used to 2399 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 1: tell the coach there and they were like, listen, your 2400 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,519 Speaker 1: screw your scheme, when your practice are your videos, I'm 2401 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,640 Speaker 1: Johnny Football, give me the ball line up on two, 2402 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,599 Speaker 1: let's go. And that's what he was able to do. 2403 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,680 Speaker 1: The reason why I came away liking the more than 2404 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:50,880 Speaker 1: I liked him before is I haven't an infatuation for 2405 01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: people who are themselves from A to Z. I understand 2406 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,840 Speaker 1: you may have to adjust in life. I'm not that guy. 2407 01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna adjust I'm gonna do with v J. Wantson. 2408 01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 1: I'm not that guy at all. Especially when you become 2409 01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:04,080 Speaker 1: a parent, you can't rock and move that way. But 2410 01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 1: the one thing I'm not going to do is not 2411 01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:13,040 Speaker 1: be unapologetically authentically myself. Every time you see me, every 2412 01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:15,519 Speaker 1: time you hear me, every time you watch me, every 2413 01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,559 Speaker 1: time you talk to me, you're gonna get the real VJ. 2414 01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:21,400 Speaker 1: Vernon Husky. And that's what we got from Johnny Football. 2415 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:26,280 Speaker 1: I forgot that the money signed stuff came after he 2416 01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:29,080 Speaker 1: kind of thumbed his nose at the NCAA from all 2417 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:31,320 Speaker 1: the money he was making. I forgot that's what that 2418 01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:34,760 Speaker 1: was for. He was basically saying, ha ha oh a 2419 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:38,479 Speaker 1: first half against Rice, Yeah, no problem here. I come 2420 01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 1: back though, buddy, because I'm gonna fly to Miami. Remember 2421 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,000 Speaker 1: the story told where the guys like, dude, you're getting 2422 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,879 Speaker 1: scammed up here. You need to go the real autograph 2423 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,719 Speaker 1: guys downstairs, to go downstairs to a rod de Roys Royce. 2424 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:51,640 Speaker 1: You go to the room. Da da da da da. 2425 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,599 Speaker 1: Here's the code to the safe, thirty thousand cash. Yeah, 2426 01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't walk back out there like this too, Like, bro, 2427 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting my money because you guys are ripping us 2428 01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:02,880 Speaker 1: off and using us kids. I'm just figuring out how 2429 01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,599 Speaker 1: to beat the system. And I mean, it is what 2430 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 1: it And damn did he beat the system. And I 2431 01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,240 Speaker 1: say that even not being sober today or whatever his 2432 01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,360 Speaker 1: demons are, I'm not going to speak on that, but 2433 01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,840 Speaker 1: the simple fact that he did it his way is 2434 01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: the time of his life. He had a great ride 2435 01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,200 Speaker 1: and he's moved on from it. I can respect that 2436 01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:20,760 Speaker 1: part of it. 2437 01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:24,040 Speaker 2: I would have liked to see him study a little 2438 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 2: bit be successful in the NFL. 2439 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,040 Speaker 1: That would have been cool. I don't think he was 2440 01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,000 Speaker 1: ever built or made mentally to succeed in the NFL. 2441 01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:35,640 Speaker 1: He never talked about not once in that documentary. Did 2442 01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:37,960 Speaker 1: you say, yeah, I always dreamed of being in the 2443 01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,120 Speaker 1: NFL when I was a kid. He never spoke that way. 2444 01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,160 Speaker 1: Football was something you did in Texas. He went to 2445 01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,080 Speaker 1: a militant style high school, carried out to Texas A 2446 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,120 Speaker 1: and M. That's a military style university. He just wanted 2447 01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,800 Speaker 1: to play football in party. He had no interest. I 2448 01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:56,400 Speaker 1: say this about Zion, right, some guys don't all want 2449 01:53:56,439 --> 01:53:58,280 Speaker 1: to be the stars. We want them to be guys. 2450 01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,559 Speaker 1: Some guys just want to get there, make a bunch 2451 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,560 Speaker 1: of money off of it, and then say, hey, I 2452 01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:04,840 Speaker 1: much rather live off of what this does for my 2453 01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,519 Speaker 1: life than give back to the game that was Johnny football. 2454 01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,479 Speaker 2: He was never cut to make the NFL work for 2455 01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,920 Speaker 2: him though, the way he played in college, I just 2456 01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:13,479 Speaker 2: can't buy it. 2457 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 1: Like if he had locked. 2458 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:17,719 Speaker 2: In, he would have been at least an NFL backup. 2459 01:54:17,760 --> 01:54:20,120 Speaker 2: He has too much talent. He just had too much talent. 2460 01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:21,519 Speaker 2: But it's like that's what shows you like. 2461 01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,920 Speaker 1: And you know what kids kids out there today. 2462 01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,360 Speaker 2: If you can hear my voice the old adage, hard 2463 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:32,280 Speaker 2: work beast talent. When talent doesn't work hard, there you go. 2464 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,080 Speaker 2: Although I do, I just got a wonder. If you 2465 01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:39,440 Speaker 2: want it, though, I just got a wonder. Colin Klein, how. 2466 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,760 Speaker 1: Does he feel? To leave him alone? Man? How does 2467 01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,200 Speaker 1: he feel today? Do you feel like? Do you feel 2468 01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:46,120 Speaker 1: good knowing you a third in the Heisman? 2469 01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:49,880 Speaker 2: Or do you feel bad knowing that the other two 2470 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,800 Speaker 2: people in the heisman running had. 2471 01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,240 Speaker 1: More so much going on off the fields? 2472 01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:58,440 Speaker 2: So I mean, manthy tale would said, he's up on 2473 01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:01,760 Speaker 2: the phone till the sun's coming up with cool. I 2474 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 2: would imagine Johnny Manzel's flying to Miami every Tuesday. 2475 01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,480 Speaker 8: He's just gonna have to be happy with the with 2476 01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 8: the Kellen Moore Award exactly. 2477 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,240 Speaker 2: Colin Claude, all he's doing is chilling in Manhattan, Kansas. 2478 01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:15,720 Speaker 1: That's it. Just trying to win games. 2479 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,640 Speaker 8: Not like Colin Klein came to the NFL and lit 2480 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,200 Speaker 8: things on fire either though I do. 2481 01:55:19,400 --> 01:55:21,080 Speaker 1: But still his eyes. He could have been eyes with 2482 01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,760 Speaker 1: trophy winner. He could have. It could have happened for him. 2483 01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,040 Speaker 2: Coming up next, Marty Vida had a progressive play of 2484 01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,680 Speaker 2: today and more of these preseason football outlooks. 2485 01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,840 Speaker 3: So Herbert, he got it forty five in midfield, first 2486 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,560 Speaker 3: out in more to the forty angles, thirty twenty sideline 2487 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:37,760 Speaker 3: left hit, stays. 2488 01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:41,040 Speaker 6: On his feet, plunges into the end zone for the touchdown. 2489 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:47,120 Speaker 2: Touchdown pairs fifty six yards shut at duff off. That 2490 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,760 Speaker 2: is the progressive play of the day, brought to you 2491 01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:54,080 Speaker 2: by a progressive Mattereriance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. 2492 01:55:54,080 --> 01:55:57,840 Speaker 2: Get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, 2493 01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,200 Speaker 2: ATV and more all your protection than one place. Bundoland 2494 01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,680 Speaker 2: shave at Progressive dot Com, Martin and VJ coming to 2495 01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:05,600 Speaker 2: you a lot from the tyreck dot Com studios. 2496 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,440 Speaker 1: Thank you to the Bears Radio Network for that one. 2497 01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,280 Speaker 2: And that was a thrilling game I thought for especially 2498 01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,560 Speaker 2: for the preseason, a lot of long plays. DJ Moore 2499 01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,960 Speaker 2: had a long play. Khalil Herbert had a long play. 2500 01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,600 Speaker 2: Bears win twenty three to seventeen. 2501 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:20,120 Speaker 1: But VJ. 2502 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:23,400 Speaker 2: I just was thinking this the whole time I was 2503 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:28,440 Speaker 2: watching this game. The Titans have drafted a quarterback in 2504 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,360 Speaker 2: the first three rounds in the last two years of 2505 01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:36,040 Speaker 2: the draft, and I don't think they got one. They 2506 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,640 Speaker 2: may have drafted two quarterbacks, I should say this. I 2507 01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:40,400 Speaker 2: don't know if they got one to play, all right. 2508 01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:42,080 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do right now is I'm not 2509 01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:45,280 Speaker 1: going double down on my guy, but I'm gonna take 2510 01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,600 Speaker 1: some chips off the table because I have to see progression. 2511 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,640 Speaker 1: I can't just keep pulling for you, bro, like I 2512 01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:53,880 Speaker 1: gotta see progression. But I really do like Malite the Freak. 2513 01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:56,040 Speaker 1: I really do like that guy. And I like that kid, 2514 01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,240 Speaker 1: and that's because I remember him when he was in 2515 01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,960 Speaker 1: high school and there were SECS schools that were going 2516 01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,400 Speaker 1: after him that they wanted him to come there. He 2517 01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,240 Speaker 1: decided to go to a smaller school like Liberty University 2518 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,560 Speaker 1: for his own reasons. And you know, doesn't play, of course, 2519 01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,200 Speaker 1: the top notch competition in college football. But when I 2520 01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 1: look at him, something just kept saying, Aaron McNair, Air, McNair, 2521 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,000 Speaker 1: lord rest his soul, Rest in peace to the homie. 2522 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,440 Speaker 1: But Aaron McNair and I just kept watching play guy, guys. 2523 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:24,240 Speaker 1: Aaron McNair came from Alcorn State, smaller school, play alike, 2524 01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:27,080 Speaker 1: kind of the same height, same weight, saining bill almost 2525 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,200 Speaker 1: and if he can just get with the right type 2526 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,640 Speaker 1: of coaching staff, I don't believe that they have the 2527 01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:33,920 Speaker 1: right coaching staff there. They have more of a defensive 2528 01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,400 Speaker 1: minded type system. And when you have Derreck Henry, you 2529 01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,280 Speaker 1: could just turn and run the ball, and the ball 2530 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,880 Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry. But I think that's starting to slow 2531 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,320 Speaker 1: down now because he's had the lower extremity injuries and 2532 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:45,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of slowed him down a little bit. I 2533 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,080 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be that two thousand yard Dereck Henry 2534 01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,360 Speaker 1: we saw a few years ago. But I'm with you, man, 2535 01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,800 Speaker 1: I just I'm still holding out hope on the league. 2536 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,360 Speaker 1: I've never had open Tannehill and I don't think Loves 2537 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,600 Speaker 1: is the good, So you're right, they could be in 2538 01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,760 Speaker 1: serious trop I throw a quick quack, said, you could 2539 01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,040 Speaker 1: they beat a team that we don't see now that 2540 01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,280 Speaker 1: isn't winning like three games, and we go, wow. 2541 01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm there, I'm here, I'm all the way here. 2542 01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:11,320 Speaker 2: You know, Bico only two weeks ago, I'm here. I 2543 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,480 Speaker 2: think that roster doesn't have that much talent. It seems 2544 01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:15,960 Speaker 2: to me, especially when you think about some of the 2545 01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,480 Speaker 2: other teams. And I get the AFC South is going 2546 01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,480 Speaker 2: to stink, but the rest of the NFC should be 2547 01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 2: pretty okay. So maybe they beat up on you know, 2548 01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:29,080 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of I'm higher on CJ. Stroud and something. 2549 01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the Texans will be any great shakes. 2550 01:58:31,880 --> 01:58:35,320 Speaker 2: But if the Texans one of their five wins this 2551 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:36,840 Speaker 2: year was against the Titans, I wouldn't blink. 2552 01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:38,520 Speaker 1: That wouldn't be okay, you know what I'm saying. If 2553 01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't vision game come for the division game Division 2554 01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:42,640 Speaker 1: not high on the Colts. 2555 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:44,880 Speaker 2: If one of their six wins this year is against 2556 01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 2: the Titans, I wouldn't blink. 2557 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,120 Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? And you know, Rabels 2558 01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,680 Speaker 1: one of the better coaches in the league. 2559 01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:52,320 Speaker 2: He's normally got his guys prepared so on so for, 2560 01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:56,240 Speaker 2: but offensively, they just seem to be devoid of talent. 2561 01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:00,360 Speaker 2: Starting with trading AJ Brown was the beginning of the racking, 2562 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,040 Speaker 2: the armor and the trailing. Burks well for the first 2563 01:59:03,120 --> 01:59:05,240 Speaker 2: round pick, which turned up to be trailing basically for 2564 01:59:05,280 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 2: trailing has not No, that's not panned out yet. No, 2565 01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:10,960 Speaker 2: and his career, he's only been one year in, so 2566 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to dead it all the way, but 2567 01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,000 Speaker 2: if I was in Tennessee, I'd be concerned. 2568 01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 1: When you're a top rated receiver coming into the league, 2569 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,720 Speaker 1: most times those guys shine immediately, like you can see 2570 01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,440 Speaker 1: it immediately. Yes, you have the stories of the Cooper 2571 01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:28,360 Speaker 1: Cups and the Wells Welkers and the Julian Edelmans. You 2572 01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 1: have those guys. But we knew what Julio was, We 2573 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,480 Speaker 1: knew what Tory Holt was. We knew there's receivers in 2574 01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:36,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty years when they come in the NFL, 2575 01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:39,240 Speaker 1: you know they show it real. Jordan Madison showed it. 2576 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,920 Speaker 1: He got robbed of a toe drag swag last night 2577 01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,400 Speaker 1: on his first catch like eighteen yards down a field 2578 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,160 Speaker 1: on the out route like we were. They looked at 2579 01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,600 Speaker 1: the replay like, oh, he did get that second foot down. 2580 01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:51,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota's staff, of course, didn't throw the challenge fact. I 2581 01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,080 Speaker 1: don't know why you don't work on that, and preseason 2582 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:55,040 Speaker 1: should be something. I'd be throwing the challenge flag on 2583 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,840 Speaker 1: the smallest things, just to get in the rhythm of 2584 01:59:57,960 --> 02:00:01,440 Speaker 1: mentally throwing the damn challenge flag. But you know, I'm 2585 02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,320 Speaker 1: with you, Darrel Tennessee man. I don't know three or 2586 02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,280 Speaker 1: four wins, but if they just had a complete fall out, 2587 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:11,000 Speaker 1: failing season where it went all wrong, I think this 2588 02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,400 Speaker 1: would be the year. And it wouldn't surprise me that 2589 02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:14,720 Speaker 1: it would be them. You could see a guy like 2590 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Derek Henry by week ten or eleven with the mysterious 2591 02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,480 Speaker 1: you know, hamstring, and they all we're gonna shut him down, 2592 02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, for the year because he's free agent coming up. 2593 02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:25,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I don't I mean, I don't 2594 02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,480 Speaker 2: see the tight ends of wide receivers. They're not doing 2595 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:33,200 Speaker 2: these guys no favors and Willison Willison Levis. But I 2596 02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,880 Speaker 2: also don't think that they did themselves as any favors 2597 02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,720 Speaker 2: by drafting either one at this point, again, I know 2598 02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,320 Speaker 2: you don't watch documentaries. You just what you gotta watch 2599 02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:44,360 Speaker 2: God Forbid on Hulu. You got to try a Liberty University. 2600 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,920 Speaker 2: You'll see it and think about Malik Wilson as everybody 2601 02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,600 Speaker 2: jas listening. Thanks for listening, Fox Sports Radio