WEBVTT - Dramatic with Jana Kramer

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart

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<v Speaker 1>radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Chris Harrison alongside Lauren Zema. Welcome back to what

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<v Speaker 1>has been an amazing week. I hope you've had a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful week as well. Yes, we just came back from Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Chris and I went on a trip together.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I brag on you for a second? Sure? Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great things about Elsie, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult things about me is I'm a tough person

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<v Speaker 1>to buy for. I know this. We're talking gifts. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that I have everything. I'm just a tough person

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<v Speaker 1>to buy for. And so what Lauren has adapted to

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<v Speaker 1>and I love this is she gives us experiences and

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<v Speaker 1>trips and things like that, and then they're not always extravagant,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not always crazy. And one place that was on

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<v Speaker 1>our bucket list that we had never been was Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. Well, it's hard. It's also hard to find

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<v Speaker 1>a place you've never been. True traveled so many places

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<v Speaker 1>for the show, but neither of us had been there.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this was my Christmas gift to Chris Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Charleston, South Carolina, all planned out. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the best part is it was all planned out.

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<v Speaker 1>You planned out where we were staying, where we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to eat. We have a good friend who lives

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<v Speaker 1>because another place I wanted to go to was Kiowa Island.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a golf destination and I've always wanted to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like forty minutes away from Charleston, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to my friend. You included that in it

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<v Speaker 1>as well. It was just that stuff means so much

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I guess the takeaway is find that

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<v Speaker 1>something that your significant other really loves. Food, wine, travel,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those are great gifts. It meant it meant

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<v Speaker 1>more to me than any sweater you would have given me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you are hard, so I think we're both hard to

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<v Speaker 1>buy for it though I can't. I can't be one

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<v Speaker 1>sided on that. Like I'm a pretty picky person to

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<v Speaker 1>buy four. Hence why even when Chris proposed he picked

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<v Speaker 1>out the stone of our of the engagement ring and

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<v Speaker 1>gave it to me on just a plain band and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he didn't want to risk getting a ring

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like, So I was able to then go

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<v Speaker 1>design the band myself, which was great because then I

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<v Speaker 1>got the surprise of a ring and I got to

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<v Speaker 1>go have fun designing it. Yeah, I don't think I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever really told that story. We bought We bought the

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<v Speaker 1>ring from a very dear friend of mine and now ours.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was upset you didn't use Neil Lane, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was never any shade intended towards Neil Lane.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a part of the show. And while

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<v Speaker 1>Neil and I got along grade, it's not like we

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<v Speaker 1>were dear friends. This person, Nip mccleve, who owns a

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry store and run He's family owned locally out of

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<v Speaker 1>la for years. So I've been good friends with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it just made sense to do something very sincere.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually got the advice from him. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so hard for me because whatever I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to get, I don't know if Lauren's

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<v Speaker 1>going to love it. And he says, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are doing now is pick the stone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the important thing. Then we will give it just

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<v Speaker 1>a very simple band. Give it to her, propose that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know. When she says yes. Hopefully, then we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back and design the ring of her dreams. Did any

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<v Speaker 1>part of you think I was going to say no? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you would say yes. But that took so

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<v Speaker 1>much pressure off me, because one of the craziest things

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<v Speaker 1>for me, honestly, in the proposal. Proposing was easy. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you would say yes. I knew I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get down on one knee. That part was easy. I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared of giving you a ring that you just

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<v Speaker 1>immediate because in that moment, you don't want your head

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<v Speaker 1>to go anywhere other than oh, my god, I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this man. I can't wait to marry you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it to be Oh, that's that was

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting choice. Well, what's tough about that moment is

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<v Speaker 1>if someone has picked a ring you don't like, you

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly feel like, am I saying yes to this person

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't even know me? Like that's how you take it?

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<v Speaker 1>As a woman, You're like, does he even know me?

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<v Speaker 1>Why I would he pick this? I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah, it would kind of take I under I

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're saying, and I appreciate your thought in

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<v Speaker 1>that because it would take some joy out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he put it into a very simple just wing

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<v Speaker 1>and then he thought, you know, maybe she'll just love this.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be it too, and then we can go

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<v Speaker 1>back if we want to. So that was but it

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<v Speaker 1>made it fun because then I got to design the

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<v Speaker 1>band and that we got to do it together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it did, and I highly recommend for those that are

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<v Speaker 1>getting engaged it's not a bad way to go because

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<v Speaker 1>it did. It added another layer that we got to

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<v Speaker 1>do together after the proposal, which was kind of cool. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and this goes to yeah, so we're both tough to

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<v Speaker 1>buy for you, but I love we have kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started this tradition because for my birthday, you gave me

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<v Speaker 1>a trip to Europe where you had planned everything, which

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing, and it was thirty five, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of felt like it was a bigger birthday

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<v Speaker 1>or something. But this was Chris's Christmas gift. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about how we had people send in

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<v Speaker 1>questions and one of the questions that we didn't get to,

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship question that a listener submitted was how do

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<v Speaker 1>you get out of a relationship rut? And I've realized

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<v Speaker 1>something that really keeps us out of a rut because

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, right in your daily life, you have

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<v Speaker 1>your restaurants, you go to, your friends, you hang out with,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are all great, but it all is the

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<v Speaker 1>same every day. Um. What helps us stay fresh is

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<v Speaker 1>taking trips or even doing little weekends to new places,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you're experiencing something new with your partner, well

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<v Speaker 1>then that automatically like you have the same person, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a new situation. And for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to go to Charleston and like, you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>a historical tour and learn about all the history, good

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<v Speaker 1>and bad in that city, meet the incredible people of

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<v Speaker 1>that city, try the new foods, and see the new places.

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<v Speaker 1>It it's like automatically invigorating. And we share that adventure

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<v Speaker 1>adventurous attitude and that zest for travel, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>love explaining. You know what's great about gifts we give

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<v Speaker 1>each other is they're also gifts we give ourselves. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very self serving. I love this trip I got you

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<v Speaker 1>and I had never been to Charleston, and let me

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<v Speaker 1>just give a shout out. And by the way, no endorsements,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't there were no trade outs, no nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>Elzi just paid for this. So this is Uh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not We're not trying to gain any favor because we're

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<v Speaker 1>long gone. Charleston was amazing, What an amazing city, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>full of history. Uh so much of our country's history

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<v Speaker 1>came through those ports. And um, the you know Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Sumter is there, there is I'm a history buff. I

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<v Speaker 1>love history. Lauren is finding this out more and should

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<v Speaker 1>have got him a tour of the boat. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know about this boat. Checked intip we

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<v Speaker 1>checked into this very quaint hotel and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>view of Fort Sumter, very famous you know Ford from

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<v Speaker 1>the Civil War. And um, then there is this massive

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft carrier. I might be I might be a complete idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know what aircraft carrier had been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stationed in mothballed there in Charleston. It's been there since

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, by the way, and it was the USS

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<v Speaker 1>Yorktown easily one of the most famous aircraft carriers in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the United States of America. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in three battles and World War Two, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it served in Vietnam as well. Not everybody's a history buff,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I was peaking out that this was right

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<v Speaker 1>outside the window. I just thought it was amazing. So

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<v Speaker 1>but we did a walking tour of Charleston, yes, which

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. I very much recommend something I love to

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<v Speaker 1>do and you can book them through I use via

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<v Speaker 1>tour is a walking food tour because you walk, your

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<v Speaker 1>guide tells you the history of the city. As you walk,

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<v Speaker 1>you stop in places, and then you stop and eat

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<v Speaker 1>at like three or four different restaurants, just little bites

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<v Speaker 1>at each place. And food is so tied to our culture, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean a you're eating, you're eating great food,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're hearing more about the city through the food.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was so much fun. Can I tell

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<v Speaker 1>something embarrassing about the tour? So Elze and I go

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<v Speaker 1>on this tour and I don't know if you were

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed at all. I felt a little out of play.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lauren warned me. She knows I don't love crowds,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she said, look, we're with a group. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a small group though, it was like ten people

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<v Speaker 1>or twelve people, and so that was perfect. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we meet, you know, in the historic part of Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gather as a group and we introduce ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>then you start the walking tour, and Lauren said, we

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<v Speaker 1>got the food thing, and then I added on there

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<v Speaker 1>was an option you can add on a curated drink

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<v Speaker 1>experience at each stop as well. Guys, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>say yes to the cocktail add on in the PA.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I would have as well, So we

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<v Speaker 1>added on the cocktail part of this. Well, Laura and

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<v Speaker 1>I were the only ones that pushed yes on the cocktail.

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<v Speaker 1>So everywhere we went and it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal where she's like, yeah, we have two over

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<v Speaker 1>here that are drinking, and so every time we sat down,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I got and it wasn't like a sampler.

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<v Speaker 1>They put these massive cocktails in front of us at

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<v Speaker 1>age and everyone I thought at the table just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked at us like wow, okay, like they have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. Yeah. We Actually there was another couple and

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<v Speaker 1>we started saying, do you want to take like we

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<v Speaker 1>have these two huge tumblers of like a Southern tea

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<v Speaker 1>time or whatever it was, do you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>one of these? We'll just share the drink package with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was a little embarrassing, but hey, we were

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<v Speaker 1>there for a good time, not a long time. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're only there for four days. I wanted to try

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<v Speaker 1>the local drinks, the different I forget some. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a punch you know, places of local cocktails, Babe, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about history too. I just felt like all our cocktails

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<v Speaker 1>on this first stop at this barbecue place que Barbecue

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<v Speaker 1>or Quology, and everyone was just like, Wow, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna just jump in with those hurricanes. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was so it was one o'clock. Okay, two quick shout

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<v Speaker 1>outs to places we went. Yes, restaurants. Oh, I love

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants and I love giving a shout out to a

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<v Speaker 1>place we loved. And again we paid full fare. These

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<v Speaker 1>are not trade outs. They have no idea we were

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<v Speaker 1>even there. Place called Magnolia was amazing, Yes, incredible service,

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<v Speaker 1>grateful ten out of ten. And Husk was phenomenal, which

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<v Speaker 1>is local. And if I haven't gone back to look,

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<v Speaker 1>but someone told me Anthony Bourdaine, who I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 1>fan of and always watched his stuff and just loved

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<v Speaker 1>him dearly um was a friend of the owner of Husk,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he visited Charleston and eighth there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So I need to go back and watch that. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Magnolia was one hundred ten out of ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Husk was right up there as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have the I will say, I think I did

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<v Speaker 1>well with the trip. Should have booked the boat tour

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<v Speaker 1>the aircraft carrier to it. You were like an excited

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<v Speaker 1>little kid looking out the window. Look look at the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's funny, is I asked? We were at this

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<v Speaker 1>on this rooftop. And by the way, if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>go there, the Duberry had this amazing rooftop bar and

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<v Speaker 1>you can see it's one hundred and eighty de Grieview,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're looking into old town Charleston and all the churches.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can see Fort Sumter and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>see the aircraft carrier. And so I asked the waitress, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like an idiot, but what aircraft carrier is that?

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<v Speaker 1>And she says, I don't know, so we're not idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I googled yes, and there's like it's the Yorktown.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really was like a child at Christmas because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a fan. Well, one thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>have done, actually, which would have satisfied both our interests.

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<v Speaker 1>We found out there's a ghost tour you can do

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost tour of the ship late at night. I

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<v Speaker 1>love a ghostie, so that would have been cool. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have to go back to Charleston. But Charleston also

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<v Speaker 1>a ten out of ten just for it's a walking city.

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<v Speaker 1>It's easy and look, I will say, people are great.

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<v Speaker 1>We did not meet a stranger. No. Everyone was so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>including our waiter who we ended up going out with

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<v Speaker 1>after our dinner at Magnolia and had a cocktail, which

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<v Speaker 1>was weird. He was a sweet kid, he's he recommended

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<v Speaker 1>a bar. We went to the bar and then he

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<v Speaker 1>came to the We ended up having a drink and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we bought him a drink. We did, We

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<v Speaker 1>bought our way to a drink after dinner. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was Yeah, it was so fun. And I will say

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<v Speaker 1>when we do these trips, like I think, what's important

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<v Speaker 1>and what makes it a gift as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>both might enjoy it, is you have to do like

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<v Speaker 1>you did two days of golf on Kiowa and I

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<v Speaker 1>hung out with you know, our friend or our friend

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<v Speaker 1>our friend's wife. We did some nice beach walks together.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't going to Kiua except for you. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew you wanted to golf there and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>checking that off my list. Yes, so next time we'll add.

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<v Speaker 1>But I lore stuff. I love that you do that

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<v Speaker 1>for me and with me is travel and adventure, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was something we talked about early on in our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that we both loved that we both love to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the go and do things together. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>being on the go and trips, this Gwyneth Paltrow story, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're transitioning to ski trip. This is a headline and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird headline that I'm still trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have really kind of dove deep into

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<v Speaker 1>this rabbit hole. So Gwyneth, isn't everyone I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a celebrity trial that I mean, I would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>put it in the most dramatic headlines of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody seems to be following it. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>on the Johnny Depp amber heard level, but to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the level of what the hell, what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the weirdest story. Gwyneth Paltrow was on a

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<v Speaker 1>ski trip and dear Valley six seven years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>it's outside of Salt Lake. If you know, up in

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<v Speaker 1>Park City and Deer Valley's this kind of exclusive place

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<v Speaker 1>and it's quite beautiful. I've been there. And she either

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<v Speaker 1>ran into somebody or this somebody ran into her. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a collision on the ski slopes. She alleges this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this doctor, ran into her, and the doctor's alleging that

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<v Speaker 1>she ran into him. Either way, they had a collision

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<v Speaker 1>in Deer Valley, and six seven years later, they're now

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<v Speaker 1>having a trial because this man alleges that she ran

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<v Speaker 1>into him and now he has suffered all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>physical and mental ailments. Yes, and it's it is a

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<v Speaker 1>little confusing because at first he was suing her for

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<v Speaker 1>like three million dollars and I believe that. Then a

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<v Speaker 1>judge capped it at three hundred thousand dollars. So now

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, he's suing her for

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred thousand dollars. She is countersuing for one dollar

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<v Speaker 1>plus attorney's fees. And it's coming down to this, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, of just who hit who? And I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>article headlines like what is ski etiquette? The trial is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come down to ski conduct of who has

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<v Speaker 1>the right of way on a mountain? And then It's

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<v Speaker 1>also going to come down to like who you believe, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's just his word against hers on

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<v Speaker 1>who skied into whom. As far as the skiing situation,

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<v Speaker 1>this happens on the daily at every ski slope in

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<v Speaker 1>the world where that's something we've never done together and

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<v Speaker 1>never been skiing. I'm a horrible ski People just run

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<v Speaker 1>into each other. Are you a good skier? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pretty good skier and I love Honestly, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison is athletically good at everything. It's shocking. You

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<v Speaker 1>should see us playing pickle ball. I stand in the

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<v Speaker 1>front and he runs around like a madman behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>getting every ball and people are like, oh, like if

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<v Speaker 1>we win, it's like, well, I mean, Chris Harrison one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally actually When we were on Spring Breaking, Cobbo,

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<v Speaker 1>you and Let's reveal to the world what you and

0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Ivana Firestone did to Andrew and I, which is we

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<v Speaker 1>we swung. We couple swapped, couple swapped on the pond

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<v Speaker 1>the pickle because Ivanna knows herself well enough to know

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<v Speaker 1>that her and Andrew are not good partners in competitive situations,

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<v Speaker 1>so she switched and she and I who were defending champs,

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<v Speaker 1>ran it back, and then you were you were partners

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<v Speaker 1>with Andrew Firestone, our kids were together, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>had a good little tournament. And yes, Ivanna Firestone and

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<v Speaker 1>I are international Pickaball champions. But we digress back to

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<v Speaker 1>the ski incident. Yes, this happens every day on the daily,

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<v Speaker 1>at every slope, not a huge deal. People run into

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Everyone had helmets on and goggles and all

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<v Speaker 1>this other stuff. In skiing, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>traffic accident. Whoever hits whom from behind, that's usually the

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<v Speaker 1>person who fault. If you get rear ended, the person

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<v Speaker 1>who rearended you is it faults yet nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So she is alleging and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>this is where things get weird that all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden she was skiing and skis slipped in between her legs.

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<v Speaker 1>So she skiing, two skis slide between her, her legs

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<v Speaker 1>start to separate, and then they fall. And but before

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<v Speaker 1>that she heard this, she felt a body pressed against

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<v Speaker 1>her and this man was grunting and groaning in what

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of described in a sexual manner. This guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I find out later was probably sixty eight sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years old at the time, so it's just a bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>scenario and a bizarre story. I mean, the details of

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't know. Look, I think part of the

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<v Speaker 1>thing if you're being if you're in some kind of collision,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine it's all pretty chaotic. I have to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching Gwyneth, I mean, and I don't think the guys

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<v Speaker 1>testified yet I find I found her story to be

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<v Speaker 1>very believable. I mean, I thought she was a very

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact. If we're just talking about the then Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know in trials it's you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the facts and believability whatever. But I found

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<v Speaker 1>her to be believable. I was watching her and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like she was telling the truth. This was simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I also feel like now that it's down to three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars, like, here's why I believe her that

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<v Speaker 1>to her, it's a rounding air is not that big

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<v Speaker 1>of a number. So I think she like, at this

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<v Speaker 1>point she could have just settled out of court with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. I think she's on principle now and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do this, and so it's going to court.

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<v Speaker 1>So that makes me believe her. Two things that came

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<v Speaker 1>out that really I kind of set the tone for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree, I am fully behind Gwyneth Paltrow in this.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy texted his daughter rather clearly he didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>is Gwyneth Paltrow. You couldn't tell it was her. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he just genuinely ran into another human being. It

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<v Speaker 1>turns out he found out it was Gwyneth Paltrow, and

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<v Speaker 1>he texted his daughter later that, hey, I'm famous now

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into Gwyneth Paltrow. And then subsequently all these

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<v Speaker 1>ailments happened and all that. So they talked in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't anything devastating, There were no big injuries for

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<v Speaker 1>either one of them. They went their separate ways. And

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<v Speaker 1>now later things come up that he has these Well, look,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he has has like the collision, maybe he has

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<v Speaker 1>had serious issues from the collision. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that she caused the collision, you know. Oh and the

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<v Speaker 1>GoPro apparently there was GoPro video because the dad was

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor was had GoPro video. That video has mysteriously disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that also, I found those two things I thought

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<v Speaker 1>were a huge indictment on his story. I think her

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<v Speaker 1>ski instructors to that sentence. I think her ski instructor

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<v Speaker 1>is testifying this week, and I'm interested in what the

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<v Speaker 1>ski instructor has to say, because he was there and

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<v Speaker 1>stayed with the doctor even after Gwyneth went on. There's witnesses,

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<v Speaker 1>I know when you're when you're skiing in Deer Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the most famous ski slopes in America.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they were alone. There had to be

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of people that saw this, witnessed it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this thing falls apart very quickly. It just struck

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<v Speaker 1>me as weird that this sixty nine year old man

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<v Speaker 1>skied up between Gwyneth Paltrow's legs. It's just odd. The

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was just so weird. Well, my favorite headline

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<v Speaker 1>out of it is from People magazine. People People really

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<v Speaker 1>doing the hard journalist. Well, I love this headline. I do,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the thing. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta remember this is Gwyneth Paltrow and People Magazine's

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<v Speaker 1>headline about the trial is Gwyneth Paltrow's courtroom looks are

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<v Speaker 1>peak Gwyneths elevated neutrals. They are elevated neutrals, it means,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just such a weird like People magazine. People

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<v Speaker 1>magazine is like, look, we have nothing, we have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. This story is so weird. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about her FA I disagree. I don't think that we

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to talk about. I think it's let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about everything in this trial. Oh, by the way, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of this trial, you showed this to me. If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have nothing to do in your board at work

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<v Speaker 1>today or your board at school, google the opening statements

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<v Speaker 1>and part of this trial. You have to watch. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, this doctor's lawyer. I think she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be bff's with Gwyneth at the end of this her

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<v Speaker 1>line of questioning, her demeanor is so off putting, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so uncomfortable, it is cringe. It's like, Gwyneth, we are

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be best friends after this, right, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep in touch. This is going to connect

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<v Speaker 1>us forever. And her lawyers not much better. He gave

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<v Speaker 1>the most awkward opening statement I've ever seen. So go

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<v Speaker 1>and watch the lawyers. If nothing else, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a law student, how not to practice in the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is unbelievably awkward. It's that's the thing. It's awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like with Johnny Depp and Amberherd's trial, we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching like his lawyers were killing it and that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. Her lawyers weren't killing it, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is cringeworthy. I don't know why it's all so awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because it's just such a bizarre My favorite. At

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<v Speaker 1>one point, she's like, she asked how big she was,

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<v Speaker 1>how tall are you? And then she's like, then she

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about like she's trying to kind of set

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<v Speaker 1>the stage of what she was wearing on the ski

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<v Speaker 1>slopes and how basically her size and if you ran

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<v Speaker 1>into her, what kind of collision that would be? And

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<v Speaker 1>she goes, well, you're a small girl. Well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a small person. No, she said, was you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're small but mighty yes, And Glenn said she has

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<v Speaker 1>well you're not that small, Joe. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be best friends now. Anyway, guys, go watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It is very cringe. Um, what's not cringe

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<v Speaker 1>is my guest Today. We have an amazing guest coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>Janna Kramer, author, country music star, podcaster. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to talk about with her, with her relationships and

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship she's in right now, So Janna Kramer on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of this break. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>most dramatic podcast ever Chris Harrison, along with a very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest today, an old friend, Janna Kramer, podcaster, author, actor,

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<v Speaker 1>country music star. What am I missing? Janna? Mom, incredible

0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 1>mother of two as well? You have side hustles for

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<v Speaker 1>your side hustles. We have so much to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to dive into because you've been very

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<v Speaker 1>public about your dating life and you talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>on your podcast. You're dating, I am. You have a boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. His name is Alan Russell, European soccer player

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<v Speaker 1>now soccer coach, kind of working his way up the ranks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge soccer fan, played my whole life, so

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<v Speaker 1>I see him raising, rising up the ranks to become

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<v Speaker 1>a manager at some point. So how long have you

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<v Speaker 1>guys been dating? Um? Like five months? But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew nothing. I obviously know a lot about football, but

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing about football. So yeah, I'm like, I

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 1>remember going to a game because he was he was

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.439
<v Speaker 1>an interim interim head coach when Dean had left to

0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the Norwich Club and so I had no idea what

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 1>was going on. And truthfully, whenever I had watched m TV,

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was kind of boring because I'm like

0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.520
<v Speaker 1>nobody ever score. I get it. But now that now

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that I kind of know the the intensity in the

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>setup and like yeah, now and like that you know

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>how you have to like set up each play and

0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>just like the set pieces of all of it. Now

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like exciting to like see it come together. You're

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in You're in deep here. How did you guys meet?

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>How did you meet? A soccer player from Europe? I know? Weird? Um?

0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>He actually slid into my DMS really m yeah, so

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the old ms strike again, the old the old dms. Yeah.

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:53.720
<v Speaker 1>So I and I remember seeing it and kind of

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>going like, okay, this is just silly, Like he lives

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in England, Like why would I even you know, I'm

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.919
<v Speaker 1>a mama too in Nashville, Tennessee, Like how is this

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.479
<v Speaker 1>going to work? So I kind of let it go

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>for a minute, and then I don't know, something just

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:09.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of kept like intriguing me to Like his profile

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>was private at the time, his Instagram, so I was

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like I didn't really know much and

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.600
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know something about that, like it intrigued me,

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and so then I was just I DMed back and

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.719
<v Speaker 1>then we started what's happening? And then the rest is sistery.

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 1>When how long was it before you actually saw each other?

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>We talked for a month before we saw each other,

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and this progressed to like facetiming, So you saw each

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>other and yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we like talked for

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks and then we started facetiming. Because I think,

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>like my rule and dating has always been like I

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>got a FaceTime before I go for a date. Okay,

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>oh interesting. You gotta get the vibe because it's like

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>if it's not there over FaceTime, it's not going to

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 1>be there. I don't think in person great call. I've

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>heard some people say they do the coffee first, so

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's you have that quick thirty minute to an hour,

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a good out, you never have to see

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>him again. But yours is even tighter than that. We're

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>going to FaceTime and you don't make it past the FaceTime.

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a good rule. I don't have time, like again,

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like my time is so limited that It's like, I

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to even waste it. You know, however,

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>long going to the coffee shop and coming back, you know,

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>just the whole thing. I'm like, let's just get on

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a FaceTime. Let's see if this is like anything any sparker,

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, connection, attraction, and then we'll know from there.

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I was go with. I usually

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>don't date these episodes, but it's Monday, and I say

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that because today Monday is a big day for this relationship,

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Why what's Monday tonight? Oh for you guys

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>going to the iHeart Music Awards. Yeah, but tell us

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>why this is so big? Well? And honestly, I've really

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>been fighting with it because I've I've stayed SETI private,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>more private than I've ever been, Yeah, which is shocking

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>for me. But I you know, I just, um, I

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>just want to be careful, and especially I think more

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>so because like people can just be so harsh. Of course,

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I get it, like my past doesn't look lovely on paper,

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:15.959
<v Speaker 1>so you know, just trying to be smart with it.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>And um, but yeah, no, he's gonna he's gonna walk

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the carpet with me. So that's gonna be. I haven't

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>walked with anyone since my husband. You guys are going

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:30.880
<v Speaker 1>red carpet official tonight at the Heart Music Awards. So

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>he's flown in. Obviously he's here. You guys are gonna

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>go red carpet official. Yeah, he's Well, he's been in

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Nashville because he's on a break right now. He's trying

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to find a new team. Um so yeah, so he's

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>been we've been in hanging out in Nashville, and but yeah,

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.159
<v Speaker 1>so he yeah, he came with me to California, and

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I kind of like tiptoed around it. I'm like, well,

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe because again, people are just so

0:26:56.240 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>of course aggressive, and but I don't There's something about

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>it that just feels right. So I'm just gonna go

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>with my gut. And again, like no one else, I

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>haven't had anyone else do this with me since my

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>last relationship with my X. I'm like, all right, I

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>think I think I'm ready. I like that though, and

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that I love what you just said right there. It

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>feels right. I'm going to go with my gut. And

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 1>when Lauren and I we had been dating secretly for

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like six months, kind of like you, before I took

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 1>this public. I want to know because the world can

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>be cruel and it's tough enough to date as it is. Before,

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I just let everybody have their own opinions and tell

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>us what they think. So we waited. It was six

0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>months down the road, and all of a sudden, it

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.640
<v Speaker 1>just felt right, and it felt like I started lying

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.159
<v Speaker 1>to people I cared about that I'm not dating or

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a girlfriend, because I clearly did and

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I was in love. And I vividly remember the night

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>there was we got invited to I think it was

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.479
<v Speaker 1>an Emmy party at the Chateau Marmont in la and

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I told Lauren, I said, I want to go to

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>this with you tonight. I want to hold your hand,

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to walk the red carpet. And we did.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>It is and it. I know that might sound silly

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to everybody, but when I heard you were doing this, um,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted one of the things I wanted

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you about, because I know it may

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>seem small and insignificant, but it's not. This is a

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of a cool step for you guys, and I

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 1>love it well. I appreciate that. I'm so glad you

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>did that too. But it feels I don't know if

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>for you too, Like it feels like you just have

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:25.639
<v Speaker 1>to be really smart about it too, because you know

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the problem with I remember my publicist always saying, like,

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 1>you can't be with guy to guy to guy, a

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.199
<v Speaker 1>guy photographa as people shod you just have to be

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>like smart. And it's like I'm always like I love

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and like this is like my person and like you know,

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and I but I'm so glad that I've always kind

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>of had that in the back of my mind because

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it would look so bad. But you have to be

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to be smart about it. But yeah, with

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>this one, it's, um, you know, I we're hopefully planning

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>for you know, we're we're on a path that I'm

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for. So so Laura and I talked about

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>this before we went. Have you guys talked about Okay,

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>this is what we're gonna wear. We we didn't stop

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>for trying to think if we stop for interviews or not.

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Have you talked about all of this how you're going

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to handle everything? Um? No, we haven't yet, but it's funny.

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>But he goes he's so. And that's another thing too

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that I'm really careful of, is he's really private. He

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>likes to be more private. Um, you know, he's not

0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>like when I Instagram story, He's not really and I

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to keep that separate. Um, even

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>though you know, we posted a photo last night from

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 1>us going out to dinner. But um, so I'm trying

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>to respect that too, Like I understand my life is

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>more public, and I also understand his life is more private.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>So just trying to find that balance. Uh so with this,

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's he's fine to just He's like, I

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>don't need to walk. I was like, no, I want

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you to, like this is important to me too, to

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>like have to me. I just I really that would

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>feel nice. And um, you know, but so we were

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>out of fitting yesterday for my dress and he's im,

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>my dress is a little He's like, that's what you're

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>wearing is a little risk a you know. I was like, yeah,

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>but now it's too late, Like I can we're pod committed.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>We're like it was my you know, my style of

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>his favorite dress. So um yeah, and you know, I

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was like anything just was We're all black or something.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>You'll look fine next doesn't like, no one's going to

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 1>be staring at him. Yeah, well, but I love that.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that. This is interesting. One of the reasons

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 1>why I felt like this relationship was different is because

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>of all the things you have not said. You haven't

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>been vocal about this, you haven't been talking about it,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>posting about it a lot, and so clearly this is

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>somebody who means a lot to you, and you've been

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 1>protecting that, and it says a lot about you and

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>how you've grown. Yeah, I appreciate that, and I think

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>also too for me, I've always wanted other like outsiders

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and approval. So when I would start dating someone, I'd

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, all right, girls, what do you think? What

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>do you think? And it's like I I didn't even

0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they didn't even know for a while, because I'm like,

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to for the first time, have my own opinion,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>not what Catherine thinks or christ And thinks, or what

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Pamelin thinks, or what this person thinks, or like what

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like, I just I really wanted to

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>make my own educated. I wanted to heart, go with

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>my gut, go with a you know, all of it.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>And just really make it just be our kind of

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>bubble for a minute. I'm a big believer. When it

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>feels right, do it. And yeah, there is no magic

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>potion to like doing it the right way or whatever.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, when it feels right to you. There's always

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>going to be naysayers. Is always going to be the

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 1>bullsh that's out public. You can't deal you know, you know,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you know as well as anybody. How long have you

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>been dating? We're engaged now, Lord and I are engaged.

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>We've been five years now, so about six months in

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 1>is when we went you know, red carpet official, we

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>went public, and but now now we're engaged, we're planning

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the wedding. And look how far both of us have come.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've we've both come a long way, but

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>like you said, we've learned a lot along the way.

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>And and for me, I think too, it's the lessons

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in all of the bumps, right, So I'm like, okay,

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, this time it's so different. And I

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>think for us, their relationship is just leaps and bounds

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>different than anything I've ever been. And I think that's

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>just because I've done a lot of work, but also

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>just there's just so much respect and I've never had

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that relationship before. We're respecting each other. It's hard to

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>say put a finger on it. But when it's different,

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>you just you know, there's that it factor that's hard.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>That's that intangible thing that you can't can't quite describe,

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>but you just know it. But how does this work?

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>How is this going to work? He is overseas, He's

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>not like in Georgia. He's in England. You were in

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Nashville with two kids and obviously very busy. So I mean,

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 1>long term, how does this work? And it's not a fantasy.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it's one of those things where you make

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>work what you want to, right, So there's that piece. Also,

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we had a conversation kind of early on

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and I said, look, I can't I can't move to England.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got two kids. I wouldn't be fair to my

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>ex and or the kids. And so this is where

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm at in my next whenever they go off and

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 1>they're eighteen, like, this is I'm staying in, Like this

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>is my plan? Like what what does your plan look like?

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:24.959
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm like and ken those come together,

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and so I think him being open to being in

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the States was kind of enough for me to go, Okay,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>let's give this a shot. So, um, you know, he's

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>looking for a you know, a head coaching job in

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>the States, and it's kind of one of those things

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>where again, I think I've always been the one to

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>force things and push things and try to make it happen,

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>where I'm just kind of like stepping back and going

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever is meant to be is going to puzzle piece together,

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just I'm enjoying it. And that's kind of

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>where I'm at with it. You make your work and

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're in it together, it will and that's that's wonderful.

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I love I love the way you're handling it. You

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>seem so at ease and so calm about all of this.

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>It looks good on you, which is very different from

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>how I've ever been. So it's nice to not be

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>so like anxiously attached to like like, oh my GODNA

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have to have this. And I think it was last

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>year I did spend just a lot of time truly

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>alone and not dating and just like and I enjoyed it.

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, I know, I'll be okay no matter what,

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I know I'm not going to die alone, and

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna have whether it be a relationship or

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>my friends, like, I'm not gonna I'm good. I met

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>you at such a tumultuous time in your life. You

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 1>were you were actually separated from Mike at the time. Actually,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 1>do you remember when we met? Well, I'm remember the

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 1>one time we met, when we did the podcast? Was

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 1>he with me or not? That was? And then we

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 1>were at a concert. Oh, yes, country music. I can't

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been able to figure out who it was.

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But this is maybe it was several years ago. I mean,

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>this may have been six or seven years ago. And yeah,

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what I didn't realize and you don't know, is that

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>we were being set up that night, were we? Yes,

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>we have a mutual friend. Her name rhymes with Amy Sugarman.

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.919
<v Speaker 1>And I had no idea about that. Oh my god, wait,

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I do like Baku. Yes, Jenny. I found

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>out about this yesterday. So I was talking to Amy

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>preparing for this interview. It say, you know, I tried

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to hook you guys up, And I was like, what

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>are you what are you talking about? Say you remember

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that concert? I said, yeah, I remember meeting her at

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that concert, and she was kind of pushing us together

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and we were talking. We had a great time. I

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.359
<v Speaker 1>think we had a cocktail. I didn't think much of it.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 1>She says, Yeah, I was hoping I didn't tell Janna

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't tell you. I was hoping you guys

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 1>would connect that night, because you were separated and you

0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 1>seem like you were in a kind of a messy,

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>tough spot in your life at that point. But yeah,

0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>how funny was that. I had no idea, and I

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.479
<v Speaker 1>know you didn't either, that we were on a tried

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to be hooked up that night. Wow. I mean, yeah,

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I was not even thinking that at all, because I think, yeah,

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I was that's really hot mess. You were going through

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:36.719
<v Speaker 1>such a public divorce. Yeah, and you talked a lot

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. You talked about the cheating, you talked about

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you You really were public about that. What made you

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>decide to speak the way you did and not keep

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>it private? I didn't have a choice to be well her,

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say that. I hate when people say because

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you have choices. Right. It was when I was on

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars and the story got leaked that

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>my AX was at rehab for sex Addiction and I'll

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>never forget it. I was in the air at the

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>airport going to a show while I was still on

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with Stars, and I saw my face on US

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Weekly magazine saying Mary to a sex Addict, and it

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>was just that was my first and only cover. I'm like, congratulations, fabulous.

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just like I was so embarrassed. I mean

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to just take all of them and just

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like or turn them around. And it was it was

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>so embarrassing. And when my ex and I, you know,

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>decided to work on the marriage. I remember I was

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>writing a book and I had put this piece in

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:39.840
<v Speaker 1>there and he's like, I don't want to talk about it,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, but we could help people, and

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>like he's like, it's gonna go away. I'm like, what

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't understand is they're going to always write about this.

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>They're always going to write that we've separated, that you

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>went to you know, sex addiction rehab or whatever. Like

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they're always going to say it. So I'm like, let's

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>just turn this into something where it could like help

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>people or be positive or like have a different message

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>than like she was cheated on La La and he

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was really against it, and so I dropped it. And

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>then when I started my podcast, wind Out, it was

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:09.840
<v Speaker 1>just me and someone who worked at iHeart, and you know,

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I told him, I was like, if you ever want

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to come on, you know, you're more than welcome to

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>be a guest. We don't have to talk about everything.

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:17.440
<v Speaker 1>But he came on and just started opening up and

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh crap, like we're going there, and

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, when we got done with it, he was like, man,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he's like that felt really good to just like talk.

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>And because when you get on the podcast, Mike, it's

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 1>like you can't no one really sees you. So you're

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>just like talking cathartic. Yeah, you have these conversations that

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>can lead kind of get you into trouble sometimes because

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you become so open and honest. Yeah, And so he

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just started talking and then from there he's like, man,

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe we really could help people because he had saw

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>all the comments on my Instagram like that was so helpful.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 1>And so that was when we were like, Okay, let's

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's let's do this together and let's help people.

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>The problem was he was still not in active recovery.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So even though he was saying he was, so where

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>it became this shit show was things kept happening or

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>relapse has kept happening, and so it just became this

0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, our show as a train wreck, just with

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>one thing after the next of something else happening and

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>me being like, how would you do that again? And

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like we're saying all this on the air. So I mean,

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I think a huge regret of mine is that it

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>was speaking so openly with the wounds and not like

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a scar, right, So it was just, oh, it's something

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>you probably started with this benevolent idea of this will

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>be healing for everybody, and we are kind of past it,

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and when you realize this is still an open bullet wound,

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it was too late and you're like, yeah, we got

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to keep going with us, and now what do we

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>do exactly? And I think that was you know, it

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>ended up. As much as we loved the idea of

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 1>helping people, I mean it both. I think it was

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a big piece of the continuing like he was always

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be the perpetrator and I was always going

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to be the I just kept highlighting, and I think

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that really drove a wedge into our marriage. You know,

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 1>for him and I both, how are y'all doing? Now?

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you co parent, you have two beautiful kids. You know,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>as someone who's divorced with children and has to co parent,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.479
<v Speaker 1>you figure all that out. Your kids are much younger

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 1>than mine. How has that been? The first year was

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>really tough obviously because there was a lot of anger

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and hurt on my side and there was anger and

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>hurt on his side. I mean, he had he wasn't

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>happy with you know how um you know, I think

0:40:32.360 --> 0:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>because I kept like talking about it, and so that

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>was really difficult for him. He's like, why can't you

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just stop, like we're done, stop talking about it? And

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for me, I'm like, I'm helping people and this is

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>my like and so trying to find like that balance

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>was was tough and so and yeah, and with my

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>therapist too, she was just I kept wanting to have

0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:54.399
<v Speaker 1>like this apology or like for him to accept it,

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>and and it just we just I kept wanting to

0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about it and be like, don't you see now

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like we're divorced, Like Janna, shut up. Yeah, You're

0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>never gonna get that moment, right, You're never gonna get

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that those words that just make it all okay. Yeah,

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think it was really hard experiencing first that

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>first year, like you know, not having them for the

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>first Thanksgiving or this, that and the first are hard. Yeah,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the first are, Like it was so hard. But I

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>journaled a lot. I wrote a lot during that year,

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>which hopefully I'll be able to help people with that

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>when I poventually be able to get that out. But

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>so that was tough for us because I had so

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>much anger and like just truly hate those moments, and

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.359
<v Speaker 1>those moments, those first are not only painful, but they

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.399
<v Speaker 1>can drive that hurt even more because you're laying there.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember the first night I didn't have my kids

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>and I had bought a house to kind of quietly

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>move into. I didn't tell we had to announced it yet,

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and I remember I didn't even have like window coverings

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>and shades up yet, and so I was like, and

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a bed, I had a mattress on

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the floor. I'm laying there without my kids, thinking what

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the hell? And you do? You get anger and it's

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.759
<v Speaker 1>hard and you're hurt. There's a lot of those emotions,

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, the first holidays in school and um,

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it's difficult, and a lot of people don't talk about that.

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and I yeah, and it was I remember the

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>first time we went to like Julie's and Jolie was

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>going to kindergarten that year, and so you know, you

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:20.280
<v Speaker 1>walk in and you just see like the two chairs

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I just sit next to him, like

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we just got divorced, and I'm just like and you know,

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>that was just there's so there's so many first that

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>year that yeah, we're just so hard. But I'm really

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>proud of us how we've been able to turn it

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>around the last I would say seven eight months, Like

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>we've really been able to communicate, well, we're working well together. Um,

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think once I put aside our stuff

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>and was just like, okay, let's co parent the best

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>for our kids, and uh, you know I I the

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>first kind of olive branch was I invited him to

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:58.799
<v Speaker 1>Jay's birthday party and it was tough, but at the

0:42:58.840 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>same time, like, my focus is my kids. So if

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>they can see us laughing, having a good time, all

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of our stuff doesn't matter anymore. Like all of that

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.719
<v Speaker 1>is my own work. So it's like I don't have

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to like I don't need the I don't need an

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>apology from it, and I don't really technically need to

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>forgive him, Like it's just what Right now, they're doing

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a great job, and I hope it can go on

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that Well. What you just said is so huge and

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so important for parents out there who are going

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>through this jan and I feel your pain, but it

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>is you have to just remove yourself. Your relationship doesn't

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 1>matter anymore. It's all about your kids and it's all

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>about just putting them first. And you know, we did,

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't work for everybody, but we did the

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>rule of you know, any sporting events, any school events,

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>any major like birthdays, that kind of stuff. Everybody's welcome.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, mom and dad are welcome period. If it

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was at my house, she's welcome her house, I'm welcome.

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And we just dealt with it. And there is bitterness

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and there's little snide comments, and you've got to swallow

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>your pride a lot. And you leave and you're more

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>upset than when you can. But you you said that

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you hit the nail on the head. The kids saw you.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 1>The kids know you're present, they know you're happy, and

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 1>they you know that you're working on it, and that's

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it's hard, but it's huge. You've got to put them first.

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And I try to just swallow the things that like

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>i'd love to say, or the comments or how I

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.919
<v Speaker 1>feel like, because I don't want my kids to ever

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>feel that anxiety too. So I'm just like, yeah, you know,

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 1>And tomorrow we're coaching Jason's baseball team together, like we're

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>doing like I'm like, hey, do you want to coach

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with me? Like it's just we'd think it's easier usually.

0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, again, I'm painting with a broad

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>brush because some things are so toxic and so they

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>never recover. And I feel for those parents because having

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>those moments, it gets easier and it gets better and

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you start to enjoy it well. And the thing too

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 1>is it's like I could I see how some divorced

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>parents are and like just how much they hate each

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>other and they don't talk and they're talking through things

0:44:49.280 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and I and you know, I could. I could hate

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>my ex for the rest of my life and for

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>everything that he did. But I'm at the end of

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the day, I'm like, I don't like carrying any of that.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like I have to, like, in a way,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 1>let it go for my kids, because I'm like, I

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>just I can't carry that like hatred for someone. Look

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.239
<v Speaker 1>where you are, you're in love, things are great and

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>this you know, that got you to hear yeah, and

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>you have two beautiful kids to show for it. But

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because he had said something um to me.

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you know, you've really changed since being in

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the relationship, and I go, I want you to know

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>that it was We had one conversation where it was

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:26.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of like it come to Jesus and it's like,

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we want to be there for the kids together, letting

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>them us, you know, letting them see us happy. And

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was that conversation that I was

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 1>able to because he kind of acknowledged a few things.

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, okay, I can just step away from

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, certain things and talking about certain aspects. And

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 1>has Alan met Mike yet? Has he met your x um?

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm ready to talk about that

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>piece yet, but there will be the day for sure. Okay. Yeah,

0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean obviously it's going to happen to some point

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>if you guys stay together. That's always an interesting one.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:06.759
<v Speaker 1>Of that dynamic as well. I mean I've been through there.

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Lauren has met my X and we've we've taken those

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>steps in the in the more you date and the

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 1>more serious you are, that's what happens. And the same

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.760
<v Speaker 1>thing meeting the kids and being together. All those questions

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>are hard for a single parent. It's so tough, and

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to navigate the best because again, the

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.879
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, my kids are my world. So

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I just want them to be happy, and that's it.

0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>That's all we can do, is the best we can

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>do at the time. That's it He gave for us. Though,

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Look how happy like this is good, amazing. I know

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>we have come a long way. We have a question

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 1>how old your fiance do you want kids? No? No? Okay,

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>a discussion we've had o heay, And again an important

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.800
<v Speaker 1>discussion to have as you're getting into a relationship and

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about marriage. And I have two kids previously

0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that are now in college, a junior and a freshman,

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I was not looking to start over. And she,

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 1>through her own life experiences, also doesn't want to have kids.

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>So that part of our relationship was amazing. As we

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>came together. How about you? Do you want to have more?

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm too old, but I'm old. You're not

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.000
<v Speaker 1>even You're not even forty yet. This year I will do.

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>You're knocking on the door hill, so you think you

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 1>think that ship is sailed. I again, I never say never,

0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but I think, um, I can say never. No, unless

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it's a miracle, I can say never. So so the

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.919
<v Speaker 1>door is not completely closed. Never say never. But that's

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that's your feeling at the moment. Yeah, I don't think. Um,

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>what about more country music? Yeah? Excited that song Later

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>this year we're going to put out into an EP,

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>so I'm really pumped about that. So I'm just like, um,

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>one's just a really fun song. Where it? Because I

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm so sick and tired of writing about

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:02.879
<v Speaker 1>like oh my God, I got hurt and you broke

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>my heart and the so, um, I have a song

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>coming out this summer that's just like I was like,

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to write just a really fun girl anthem

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's fun. Oh good. Well, your your freshman album,

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>self titled Jenna Kramer, came out with twenty twelve, and

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.840
<v Speaker 1>then in twenty fifteen, the sophomore album, which is supposed

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 1>to be harder and less successful. Absolutely blew up. I

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>think what you had seven singles that that hit the charts,

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>you were nominated for Female Vocalist of the Year. I mean,

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you were all over I'm a big country music fan.

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm such a geek, and you know, you were all

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 1>over the highway and all over satellite radio. I loved it.

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Every time you came up. I was like, yes, thank

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you and so. But but I was wondering, Okay, what's next, Like,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been so busy with so many other things,

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>but I hope you get back to country music. Yeah,

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean I definitely am it's it's it's so. I

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say it's hard for it is a

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>lot harder for women. But I'm not on a label

0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:01.279
<v Speaker 1>anywhere very much. So yeah, so without being on the label,

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>which was so frustrated to be when I got dropped,

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>essentially I had outcharted some of the guys they still

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>have on the record label. So I'm like, how unfair

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is it that you're dropping me when I've outcharted these

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:16.439
<v Speaker 1>people that have never charted. So it's just I never

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>really truly made sense to me. But you know, I

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>think at the time too, I didn't really I just

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>had my son Jason. I didn't want to be out

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>on the road anymore because tourings are really lonely life.

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think the downfall for me was that I

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 1>had other options, so like I came into country music

0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:38.279
<v Speaker 1>from being an actress. So I think because I had

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a fallback, I guess or something else that I did

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:45.800
<v Speaker 1>before it. I didn't fight. I could have kept if

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have anything else, I would have kept fighting, right,

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:49.640
<v Speaker 1>And so now I'm like, oh, do it for fun

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and I love just doing music and I'll play shows

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 1>every once in a while. But you're going to drop

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>some music this summer. Absolutely, I'm super excited about that.

0:49:56.000 --> 0:49:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Send those to me. I want a preview.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm excited. I'm very excited. I can't wait

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>for the for the new music from Janna Kramer. Before

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you go, can we completely do a one eighty? Yeah?

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk this something Lauren and I do

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>every show, we go over the dramatic headlines of the week,

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and oh yeah, we covered we covered some, but I

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>want I saved some for you because I knew you

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 1>would be great to gossip with. Okay, great, let's do it.

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.799
<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna jump in dramatic headlines of the week

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>with Jana Kramer. Um. We got to talk about Harry

0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Styles Emily Radikowski making out in Tokyo. Okay, So, you

0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>know what's so crazy? As I saw her at what

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>show it was? It was in New York. It's a

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.719
<v Speaker 1>polo club, Okay, it was right. She had broken up

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>with her with her husband, right, and I'm like, she's

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just she's beautiful. But you know what my first thought was,

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt bad for what's her face? Who was just

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>with her? With him? Wait? Ted Lasso's ex wife, Oh,

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Olivia Wilde. Yeah, that was my first That was my

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.239
<v Speaker 1>first thought was like I didn't know where that was going. Yes,

0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I know, so, yeah, Harry was Yeah, so Harry had

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>just been with Olivia Wilde Emily Radikowski apparently what divorced

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:30.399
<v Speaker 1>six months ago, and they clearly she's touring with him

0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 1>or hanging out with him in Japan and they had

0:51:33.360 --> 0:51:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a serious makeout. Sash. Here's a thing very public. They

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>knew they were on the streets, they knew they were onlookers.

0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 1>They were like leaning against a car with the umbrella.

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>It looked very aged. Yeah, I mean that's such a

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's such an indictment to say it was staged.

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>But they very much knew these photographs were going to

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.839
<v Speaker 1>go all over the world very quickly. So that's yeah.

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting too because I'm like, wasn't she front

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>with who's the other guy that dated Pete Davidson? Yeah,

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>she was just with him too, So I mean, listen,

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>she got she's got a note. Obviously she doesn't want

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to be private, so and I think she just want

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:13.879
<v Speaker 1>to Maybe she's wanting to get back at her acts.

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sure. Okay, That's what I was going

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to ask you. Is someone who's been through some rough

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>and tumble times relationship wise hooking up with Pete Davidson

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 1>now Harry Styles, Um, is this a rebound? Is this

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the I don't know if you can call them both

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 1>bad boys? But like, what what is this she's going through?

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I think? And this is something where I can say,

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't go to certain restaurants if you don't want

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 1>to get photographed. So I remember after my divorce, I

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 1>went to a certain thing because I'm like, you know

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>what I want to look like. I'm like, I'm over you,

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and I don't. You're going to You're going to Katsuya,

0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.399
<v Speaker 1>You're going to Nobu, going to catch Yes, it used

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.319
<v Speaker 1>to be the Ivy back in the day. Yeah, there's

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 1>there's certain restaurants you know the paparazzi are just hanging outside.

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:02.399
<v Speaker 1>You know they're gonna Craigs is another good one where

0:53:02.400 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>there's always paparazzi hanging out. Legs is so good. But yeah,

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I definitely you know she's I make up that it's maybe,

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, to kind of get back over you. Yeah, Okay,

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree. I just I see this the Pete

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Davids into Harry styles and and I'm like, okay, she's

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>soiling her oats getting back at the X. This is

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 1>some sort of revenge or something, right, Because you can

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>be private, you can, That's the thing. There are ways

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>people do get you. And I do know that from

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 1>what I went through that they can get you walking

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.439
<v Speaker 1>out of a dunkin Donuts at times. But there there

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:43.960
<v Speaker 1>are times when you know, Kylie, Kylie Jenner can hide

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.720
<v Speaker 1>her entire pregnancy for nine months, you can be private

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:52.400
<v Speaker 1>there you go just um in speaking of divorce news

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Reese Witherspoon different. That one broke my heart a little bit.

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know, can I can I be honest? Yeah? Go.

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't follow Reese on social media, but I feel

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.920
<v Speaker 1>like I see her a lot red carpets and all this.

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she was married. Oh really, when I

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>heard she was divorced, that's the first time I learned

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>that she was married. So yeah, that one surprised me,

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>just because, like you said, like how private they are,

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:24.360
<v Speaker 1>but knowing Ryan and kind of how he did her wrong,

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I was. It just looked like she found her person right.

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So that one, that one made me sad, especially how

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>private they've been too. Yeah. His name was, by the way,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Jim Toth. I had no idea I was this many

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>days old when I learned that Reese Witherspoon was not

0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 1>only married but now getting divorced. But I guess this

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.239
<v Speaker 1>is something that's also been rumored around Hollywood for quite

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>some time, that this was probably going to happen. Oh really, See,

0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like so out of the game that, like I

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:58.719
<v Speaker 1>have no it was something hanging out in Nashville. Oh no,

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you you're hanging out now? Oh? Oh yeah, yeah, speak

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:03.919
<v Speaker 1>of going on in Nashville. I was like, oh, when

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:05.719
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to get photographed, is that where you went?

0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>You went to catch or were you in Nashville? Yeah?

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I love that you knew that. And you're like, I'm

0:55:11.920 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna go out, I'm gonna put on Did you put

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 1>on like a revenge dress, like something hot? And you're like, oh,

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't, but I should have. I just put on

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a real happy face, and that's all I thought I

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 1>needed at the time. You know, were you ever spotted

0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 1>like making out with anybody doing the Emily Radikowski? No,

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 1>not not that far. And also, can I admit I

0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>did not know who Emily Radikowski was. I had heard

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel like she's one of these people, especially for guys.

0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I've heard the name and I'm like, is she a

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.239
<v Speaker 1>famous actress? Is she? I didn't know. I had to

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.279
<v Speaker 1>really google who this person was. I was like, I'm

0:55:42.280 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be an idiot when I realized that she's

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>an Oscar winner or something. Turns out like she did

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 1>some modeling and she kind of did some acting. But

0:55:50.600 --> 0:55:53.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel so bad, like she's not someone that

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 1>has been in front of us publicly that much. Yes,

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 1>so she's I remember from Gone Girl, I thought she

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 1>did great and that yeah she was Ben Affleck's significant

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 1>other and Gone Girl, Yeah, I thought she did great. Um.

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know, even when I saw her Pole Lounge,

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, she's she's very striking in person,

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, she seemed she seemed friendly. I

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>gave her a little smile. I love the Polo Lounge.

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the burger is off the chart? Can

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I can you know? Can can I tell you my cheat?

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 1>They have a pistrami sandwich. And I know this sounds

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.360
<v Speaker 1>weird getting at the Polo Lounge, but you get it

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:26.479
<v Speaker 1>as an appetizer. Tell him to slice it up into

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<v Speaker 1>fours and get the pistrami sandwich as an app I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about falling off the wagon on your diet getting

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<v Speaker 1>that and then a stake at the Polo Lounge. Heaven, heaven, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of I'm a big wine person, yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention this off the top before I say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta let find out what are you doing with

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<v Speaker 1>this wine? Okay, So I'm really excited. We just signed

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<v Speaker 1>with a very big wine distributor. So um, crossing my fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to be in a lot of places very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>What the same of it's how the one brick, one brick?

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<v Speaker 1>Where'd that come from? It actually came from my book.

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<v Speaker 1>It says anything can happen one brick at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>so one bottle, one brick at a time. I love that, Janna.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good catching up with you. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that we are here. Yeah, and I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't talked to you in quite some time, and I

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>heard you were dating somebody. But to see how happy

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you are, to see how this is kind of just

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 1>showering over you right now makes me happy. I'm really

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>happy for you. Thank you, I appreciate it. And good

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<v Speaker 1>luck tonight as you step out and Janna Kramer and

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<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend Alan Russell going to be red Carpet official tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you get up tomorrow, if you listen to

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 1>this podcast today, get up and you got to google

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures of the red carpet for the iHeart Music Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever. I can't wait

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to see his dress. I know I'm a little worried now.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know you got hair and makeup. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you got to get ready. Alan's not there? Is he

0:58:07.160 --> 0:58:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is he standing there listening to all this? He is?

0:58:09.480 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 1>He does. When he mentioned the dress, he just but

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<v Speaker 1>tell Alan, I'm I'm a huge soccer fan. And so

0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>someday he and I are going to do a different podcast,

0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.360
<v Speaker 1>the kind of podcast nobody will ever care about because

0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it'll be just us geeking out about soccer. Stems up.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to do like a soccer podcast, So that's like,

0:58:28.080 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, and talk about like because you know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>big on like the striker and whoever scores and stuff,

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:34.280
<v Speaker 1>so like you know, he'll bring you on as a guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all in you, guys. I wish you the best,

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<v Speaker 1>good luck tonight, have a blast, all the love and

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk to you very soon. Okay, love you guys,

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:45.520
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0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.080
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