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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart

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Speaker 1: radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I

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Speaker 1: am Chris Harrison alongside Lauren Zema. Welcome back to what

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Speaker 1: has been an amazing week. I hope you've had a

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Speaker 1: wonderful week as well. Yes, we just came back from Charleston,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Chris and I went on a trip together.

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Speaker 1: Can I brag on you for a second? Sure? Yes.

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Speaker 1: One of the great things about Elsie, one of the

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Speaker 1: more difficult things about me is I'm a tough person

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Speaker 1: to buy for. I know this. We're talking gifts. It's

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Speaker 1: not that I have everything. I'm just a tough person

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Speaker 1: to buy for. And so what Lauren has adapted to

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Speaker 1: and I love this is she gives us experiences and

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Speaker 1: trips and things like that, and then they're not always extravagant,

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Speaker 1: they're not always crazy. And one place that was on

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Speaker 1: our bucket list that we had never been was Charleston,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Well, it's hard. It's also hard to find

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Speaker 1: a place you've never been. True traveled so many places

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Speaker 1: for the show, but neither of us had been there.

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Speaker 1: And so this was my Christmas gift to Chris Harrison

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Speaker 1: to go to Charleston, South Carolina, all planned out. This

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Speaker 1: is the best part is it was all planned out.

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Speaker 1: You planned out where we were staying, where we were

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Speaker 1: going to eat. We have a good friend who lives

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Speaker 1: because another place I wanted to go to was Kiowa Island.

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Speaker 1: It's a golf destination and I've always wanted to go there.

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Speaker 1: It's like forty minutes away from Charleston, and so you

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Speaker 1: reached out to my friend. You included that in it

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Speaker 1: as well. It was just that stuff means so much

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Speaker 1: to me, and I guess the takeaway is find that

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Speaker 1: something that your significant other really loves. Food, wine, travel,

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Speaker 1: you know, those are great gifts. It meant it meant

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Speaker 1: more to me than any sweater you would have given me. Well,

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Speaker 1: you are hard, so I think we're both hard to

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Speaker 1: buy for it though I can't. I can't be one

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Speaker 1: sided on that. Like I'm a pretty picky person to

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Speaker 1: buy four. Hence why even when Chris proposed he picked

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Speaker 1: out the stone of our of the engagement ring and

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Speaker 1: gave it to me on just a plain band and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, he didn't want to risk getting a ring

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like, So I was able to then go

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Speaker 1: design the band myself, which was great because then I

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Speaker 1: got the surprise of a ring and I got to

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Speaker 1: go have fun designing it. Yeah, I don't think I've

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Speaker 1: ever really told that story. We bought We bought the

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Speaker 1: ring from a very dear friend of mine and now ours.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was upset you didn't use Neil Lane, you know,

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Speaker 1: but it was never any shade intended towards Neil Lane.

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Speaker 1: But he was a part of the show. And while

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Speaker 1: Neil and I got along grade, it's not like we

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Speaker 1: were dear friends. This person, Nip mccleve, who owns a

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Speaker 1: jewelry store and run He's family owned locally out of

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Speaker 1: la for years. So I've been good friends with him,

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Speaker 1: and so it just made sense to do something very sincere.

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Speaker 1: And I actually got the advice from him. I said, look,

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Speaker 1: this is so hard for me because whatever I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to get, I don't know if Lauren's

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Speaker 1: going to love it. And he says, you know what

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Speaker 1: That's the important thing. Then we will give it just

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Speaker 1: a very simple band. Give it to her, propose that's

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Speaker 1: you know. When she says yes. Hopefully, then we'll come

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Speaker 1: back and design the ring of her dreams. Did any

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Speaker 1: part of you think I was going to say no? No?

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Speaker 1: I thought you would say yes. But that took so

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Speaker 1: much pressure off me, because one of the craziest things

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Speaker 1: immediate because in that moment, you don't want your head

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Speaker 1: to go anywhere other than oh, my god, I'm so happy.

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Speaker 1: I love this man. I can't wait to marry you.

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Speaker 1: I don't want it to be Oh, that's that was

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Speaker 1: an interesting choice. Well, what's tough about that moment is

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Speaker 1: if someone has picked a ring you don't like, you

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Speaker 1: do together after the proposal, which was kind of cool. Well,

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Speaker 1: and this goes to yeah, so we're both tough to

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Speaker 1: started this tradition because for my birthday, you gave me

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Speaker 1: a trip to Europe where you had planned everything, which

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was a bigger birthday

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Speaker 1: or something. But this was Chris's Christmas gift. But what

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about how we had people send in

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Speaker 1: questions and one of the questions that we didn't get to,

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Speaker 1: a relationship question that a listener submitted was how do

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Speaker 1: you get out of a relationship rut? And I've realized

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Speaker 1: something that really keeps us out of a rut because

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Speaker 1: no matter what, right in your daily life, you have

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Speaker 1: your restaurants, you go to, your friends, you hang out with,

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Speaker 1: taking trips or even doing little weekends to new places,

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Speaker 1: because when you're experiencing something new with your partner, well

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Speaker 1: then that automatically like you have the same person, but

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Speaker 1: able to go to Charleston and like, you know, take

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Speaker 1: It it's like automatically invigorating. And we share that adventure

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Speaker 1: adventurous attitude and that zest for travel, and so we

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Speaker 1: love explaining. You know what's great about gifts we give

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Speaker 1: very self serving. I love this trip I got you

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Speaker 1: and I had never been to Charleston, and let me

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Speaker 1: just give a shout out. And by the way, no endorsements,

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Speaker 1: we didn't there were no trade outs, no nothing like

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Speaker 1: Elzi just paid for this. So this is Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: not We're not trying to gain any favor because we're

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Speaker 1: long gone. Charleston was amazing, What an amazing city, obviously

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Speaker 1: something embarrassing about the tour? So Elze and I go

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Speaker 1: place we loved. And again we paid full fare. These

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Speaker 1: even there. Place called Magnolia was amazing, Yes, incredible service,

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Speaker 1: but someone told me Anthony Bourdaine, who I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: well with the trip. Should have booked the boat tour

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Speaker 1: gonna be best friends now. Anyway, guys, go watch it.

426
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Speaker 1: It is. It is very cringe. Um, what's not cringe

427
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Speaker 1: is my guest Today. We have an amazing guest coming up,

428
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Speaker 1: Janna Kramer, author, country music star, podcaster. We have a

429
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: lot to talk about with her, with her relationships and

430
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: a relationship she's in right now, So Janna Kramer on

431
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Speaker 1: the other side of this break. Welcome back to the

432
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Speaker 1: most dramatic podcast ever Chris Harrison, along with a very

433
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 1: special guest today, an old friend, Janna Kramer, podcaster, author, actor,

434
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: country music star. What am I missing? Janna? Mom, incredible

435
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: mother of two as well? You have side hustles for

436
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: your side hustles. We have so much to talk about,

437
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: but I want to dive into because you've been very

438
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: public about your dating life and you talk about this

439
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 1: on your podcast. You're dating, I am. You have a boyfriend,

440
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: I do. His name is Alan Russell, European soccer player

441
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: now soccer coach, kind of working his way up the ranks.

442
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm a huge soccer fan, played my whole life, so

443
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: I see him raising, rising up the ranks to become

444
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: a manager at some point. So how long have you

445
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: guys been dating? Um? Like five months? But yeah, I

446
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: knew nothing. I obviously know a lot about football, but

447
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: I know nothing about football. So yeah, I'm like, I

448
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: remember going to a game because he was he was

449
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: an interim interim head coach when Dean had left to

450
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 1: the Norwich Club and so I had no idea what

451
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: was going on. And truthfully, whenever I had watched m TV,

452
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of boring because I'm like

453
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: nobody ever score. I get it. But now that now

454
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: that I kind of know the the intensity in the

455
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: setup and like yeah, now and like that you know

456
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: how you have to like set up each play and

457
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: just like the set pieces of all of it. Now

458
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: it's like exciting to like see it come together. You're

459
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: in You're in deep here. How did you guys meet?

460
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: How did you meet? A soccer player from Europe? I know? Weird? Um?

461
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: He actually slid into my DMS really m yeah, so

462
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: the old ms strike again, the old the old dms. Yeah.

463
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: So I and I remember seeing it and kind of

464
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: going like, okay, this is just silly, Like he lives

465
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: in England, Like why would I even you know, I'm

466
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: a mama too in Nashville, Tennessee, Like how is this

467
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: going to work? So I kind of let it go

468
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 1: for a minute, and then I don't know, something just

469
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: kind of kept like intriguing me to Like his profile

470
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: was private at the time, his Instagram, so I was

471
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: just kind of like I didn't really know much and

472
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: so I don't know something about that, like it intrigued me,

473
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: and so then I was just I DMed back and

474
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,719
Speaker 1: then we started what's happening? And then the rest is sistery.

475
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: When how long was it before you actually saw each other?

476
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: We talked for a month before we saw each other,

477
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: and this progressed to like facetiming, So you saw each

478
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: other and yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, we like talked for

479
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: a few weeks and then we started facetiming. Because I think,

480
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: like my rule and dating has always been like I

481
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: got a FaceTime before I go for a date. Okay,

482
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: oh interesting. You gotta get the vibe because it's like

483
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: if it's not there over FaceTime, it's not going to

484
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: be there. I don't think in person great call. I've

485
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: heard some people say they do the coffee first, so

486
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: it's you have that quick thirty minute to an hour,

487
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: you have a good out, you never have to see

488
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: him again. But yours is even tighter than that. We're

489
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: going to FaceTime and you don't make it past the FaceTime.

490
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: It's actually a good rule. I don't have time, like again,

491
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: like my time is so limited that It's like, I

492
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to even waste it. You know, however,

493
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: long going to the coffee shop and coming back, you know,

494
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: just the whole thing. I'm like, let's just get on

495
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: a FaceTime. Let's see if this is like anything any sparker,

496
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, connection, attraction, and then we'll know from there.

497
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was go with. I usually

498
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: don't date these episodes, but it's Monday, and I say

499
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: that because today Monday is a big day for this relationship,

500
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: isn't it. Why what's Monday tonight? Oh for you guys

501
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: going to the iHeart Music Awards. Yeah, but tell us

502
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: why this is so big? Well? And honestly, I've really

503
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: been fighting with it because I've I've stayed SETI private,

504
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: more private than I've ever been, Yeah, which is shocking

505
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: for me. But I you know, I just, um, I

506
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: just want to be careful, and especially I think more

507
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: so because like people can just be so harsh. Of course,

508
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I get it, like my past doesn't look lovely on paper,

509
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: so you know, just trying to be smart with it.

510
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: And um, but yeah, no, he's gonna he's gonna walk

511
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: the carpet with me. So that's gonna be. I haven't

512
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: walked with anyone since my husband. You guys are going

513
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: red carpet official tonight at the Heart Music Awards. So

514
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: he's flown in. Obviously he's here. You guys are gonna

515
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: go red carpet official. Yeah, he's Well, he's been in

516
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: Nashville because he's on a break right now. He's trying

517
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: to find a new team. Um so yeah, so he's

518
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: been we've been in hanging out in Nashville, and but yeah,

519
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: so he yeah, he came with me to California, and

520
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I kind of like tiptoed around it. I'm like, well,

521
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because again, people are just so

522
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: of course aggressive, and but I don't There's something about

523
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: it that just feels right. So I'm just gonna go

524
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: with my gut. And again, like no one else, I

525
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: haven't had anyone else do this with me since my

526
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: last relationship with my X. I'm like, all right, I

527
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: think I think I'm ready. I like that though, and

528
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: that I love what you just said right there. It

529
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: feels right. I'm going to go with my gut. And

530
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: when Lauren and I we had been dating secretly for

531
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: like six months, kind of like you, before I took

532
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: this public. I want to know because the world can

533
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: be cruel and it's tough enough to date as it is. Before,

534
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: I just let everybody have their own opinions and tell

535
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: us what they think. So we waited. It was six

536
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: months down the road, and all of a sudden, it

537
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: just felt right, and it felt like I started lying

538
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: to people I cared about that I'm not dating or

539
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a girlfriend, because I clearly did and

540
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: I was in love. And I vividly remember the night

541
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: there was we got invited to I think it was

542
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 1: an Emmy party at the Chateau Marmont in la and

543
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: I told Lauren, I said, I want to go to

544
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: this with you tonight. I want to hold your hand,

545
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: I want to walk the red carpet. And we did.

546
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: It is and it. I know that might sound silly

547
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: to everybody, but when I heard you were doing this, um,

548
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted one of the things I wanted

549
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: to talk to you about, because I know it may

550
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: seem small and insignificant, but it's not. This is a

551
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: kind of a cool step for you guys, and I

552
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: love it well. I appreciate that. I'm so glad you

553
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: did that too. But it feels I don't know if

554
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: for you too, Like it feels like you just have

555
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: to be really smart about it too, because you know

556
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: the problem with I remember my publicist always saying, like,

557
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: you can't be with guy to guy to guy, a

558
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: guy photographa as people shod you just have to be

559
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: like smart. And it's like I'm always like I love

560
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: and like this is like my person and like you know,

561
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: and I but I'm so glad that I've always kind

562
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: of had that in the back of my mind because

563
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: it would look so bad. But you have to be

564
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: you have to be smart about it. But yeah, with

565
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: this one, it's, um, you know, I we're hopefully planning

566
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: for you know, we're we're on a path that I'm

567
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm excited for. So so Laura and I talked about

568
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: this before we went. Have you guys talked about Okay,

569
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna wear. We we didn't stop

570
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: for trying to think if we stop for interviews or not.

571
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Have you talked about all of this how you're going

572
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: to handle everything? Um? No, we haven't yet, but it's funny.

573
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: But he goes he's so. And that's another thing too

574
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: that I'm really careful of, is he's really private. He

575
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: likes to be more private. Um, you know, he's not

576
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: like when I Instagram story, He's not really and I

577
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to keep that separate. Um, even

578
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: though you know, we posted a photo last night from

579
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: us going out to dinner. But um, so I'm trying

580
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: to respect that too, Like I understand my life is

581
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: more public, and I also understand his life is more private.

582
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: So just trying to find that balance. Uh so with this,

583
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's fine to just He's like, I

584
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: don't need to walk. I was like, no, I want

585
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: you to, like this is important to me too, to

586
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: like have to me. I just I really that would

587
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: feel nice. And um, you know, but so we were

588
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: out of fitting yesterday for my dress and he's im,

589
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: my dress is a little He's like, that's what you're

590
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: wearing is a little risk a you know. I was like, yeah,

591
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: but now it's too late, Like I can we're pod committed.

592
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: We're like it was my you know, my style of

593
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: his favorite dress. So um yeah, and you know, I

594
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: was like anything just was We're all black or something.

595
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: You'll look fine next doesn't like, no one's going to

596
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: be staring at him. Yeah, well, but I love that.

597
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: I love that. This is interesting. One of the reasons

598
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: why I felt like this relationship was different is because

599
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: of all the things you have not said. You haven't

600
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: been vocal about this, you haven't been talking about it,

601
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: posting about it a lot, and so clearly this is

602
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: somebody who means a lot to you, and you've been

603
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: protecting that, and it says a lot about you and

604
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: how you've grown. Yeah, I appreciate that, and I think

605
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: also too for me, I've always wanted other like outsiders

606
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: and approval. So when I would start dating someone, I'd

607
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: be like, all right, girls, what do you think? What

608
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: do you think? And it's like I I didn't even

609
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: they didn't even know for a while, because I'm like,

610
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: I want to for the first time, have my own opinion,

611
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: not what Catherine thinks or christ And thinks, or what

612
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Pamelin thinks, or what this person thinks, or like what

613
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 1: you know. It's like, I just I really wanted to

614
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: make my own educated. I wanted to heart, go with

615
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: my gut, go with a you know, all of it.

616
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: And just really make it just be our kind of

617
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: bubble for a minute. I'm a big believer. When it

618
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: feels right, do it. And yeah, there is no magic

619
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: potion to like doing it the right way or whatever.

620
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: It's like, when it feels right to you. There's always

621
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: going to be naysayers. Is always going to be the

622
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: bullsh that's out public. You can't deal you know, you know,

623
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: you know as well as anybody. How long have you

624
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: been dating? We're engaged now, Lord and I are engaged.

625
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: We've been five years now, so about six months in

626
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: is when we went you know, red carpet official, we

627
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: went public, and but now now we're engaged, we're planning

628
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: the wedding. And look how far both of us have come.

629
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we've we've both come a long way, but

630
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: like you said, we've learned a lot along the way.

631
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: And and for me, I think too, it's the lessons

632
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: in all of the bumps, right, So I'm like, okay,

633
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: and you know, this time it's so different. And I

634
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: think for us, their relationship is just leaps and bounds

635
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: different than anything I've ever been. And I think that's

636
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: just because I've done a lot of work, but also

637
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: just there's just so much respect and I've never had

638
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: that relationship before. We're respecting each other. It's hard to

639
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: say put a finger on it. But when it's different,

640
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: you just you know, there's that it factor that's hard.

641
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: That's that intangible thing that you can't can't quite describe,

642
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: but you just know it. But how does this work?

643
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: How is this going to work? He is overseas, He's

644
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: not like in Georgia. He's in England. You were in

645
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Nashville with two kids and obviously very busy. So I mean,

646
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: long term, how does this work? And it's not a fantasy.

647
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where you make

648
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: work what you want to, right, So there's that piece. Also,

649
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, we had a conversation kind of early on

650
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: and I said, look, I can't I can't move to England.

651
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I've got two kids. I wouldn't be fair to my

652
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: ex and or the kids. And so this is where

653
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: I'm at in my next whenever they go off and

654
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: they're eighteen, like, this is I'm staying in, Like this

655
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: is my plan? Like what what does your plan look like?

656
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm like and ken those come together,

657
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: and so I think him being open to being in

658
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: the States was kind of enough for me to go, Okay,

659
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: let's give this a shot. So, um, you know, he's

660
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: looking for a you know, a head coaching job in

661
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the States, and it's kind of one of those things

662
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: where again, I think I've always been the one to

663
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: force things and push things and try to make it happen,

664
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: where I'm just kind of like stepping back and going

665
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: whatever is meant to be is going to puzzle piece together,

666
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm enjoying it. And that's kind of

667
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: where I'm at with it. You make your work and

668
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: if you're in it together, it will and that's that's wonderful.

669
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I love I love the way you're handling it. You

670
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: seem so at ease and so calm about all of this.

671
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: It looks good on you, which is very different from

672
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: how I've ever been. So it's nice to not be

673
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: so like anxiously attached to like like, oh my GODNA

674
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: have to have this. And I think it was last

675
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: year I did spend just a lot of time truly

676
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: alone and not dating and just like and I enjoyed it.

677
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: So it's like, I know, I'll be okay no matter what,

678
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: Like I know I'm not going to die alone, and

679
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have whether it be a relationship or

680
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: my friends, like, I'm not gonna I'm good. I met

681
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: you at such a tumultuous time in your life. You

682
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 1: were you were actually separated from Mike at the time. Actually,

683
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: do you remember when we met? Well, I'm remember the

684
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: one time we met, when we did the podcast? Was

685
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: he with me or not? That was? And then we

686
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: were at a concert. Oh, yes, country music. I can't

687
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to figure out who it was.

688
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: But this is maybe it was several years ago. I mean,

689
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: this may have been six or seven years ago. And yeah,

690
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: what I didn't realize and you don't know, is that

691
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: we were being set up that night, were we? Yes,

692
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: we have a mutual friend. Her name rhymes with Amy Sugarman.

693
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 1: And I had no idea about that. Oh my god, wait,

694
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: I think I do like Baku. Yes, Jenny. I found

695
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: out about this yesterday. So I was talking to Amy

696
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: preparing for this interview. It say, you know, I tried

697
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: to hook you guys up, And I was like, what

698
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: are you what are you talking about? Say you remember

699
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: that concert? I said, yeah, I remember meeting her at

700
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: that concert, and she was kind of pushing us together

701
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: and we were talking. We had a great time. I

702
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: think we had a cocktail. I didn't think much of it.

703
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: She says, Yeah, I was hoping I didn't tell Janna

704
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: and I didn't tell you. I was hoping you guys

705
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: would connect that night, because you were separated and you

706
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: seem like you were in a kind of a messy,

707
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: tough spot in your life at that point. But yeah,

708
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: how funny was that. I had no idea, and I

709
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: know you didn't either, that we were on a tried

710
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: to be hooked up that night. Wow. I mean, yeah,

711
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: I was not even thinking that at all, because I think, yeah,

712
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: I was that's really hot mess. You were going through

713
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: such a public divorce. Yeah, and you talked a lot

714
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: about it. You talked about the cheating, you talked about

715
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: you You really were public about that. What made you

716
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: decide to speak the way you did and not keep

717
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: it private? I didn't have a choice to be well her,

718
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. I hate when people say because

719
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: you have choices. Right. It was when I was on

720
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars and the story got leaked that

721
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: my AX was at rehab for sex Addiction and I'll

722
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: never forget it. I was in the air at the

723
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: airport going to a show while I was still on

724
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: Dancing with Stars, and I saw my face on US

725
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Weekly magazine saying Mary to a sex Addict, and it

726
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: was just that was my first and only cover. I'm like, congratulations, fabulous.

727
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I was just like I was so embarrassed. I mean

728
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to just take all of them and just

729
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: like or turn them around. And it was it was

730
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. And when my ex and I, you know,

731
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: decided to work on the marriage. I remember I was

732
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: writing a book and I had put this piece in

733
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: there and he's like, I don't want to talk about it,

734
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, but we could help people, and

735
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: like he's like, it's gonna go away. I'm like, what

736
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: you don't understand is they're going to always write about this.

737
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: They're always going to write that we've separated, that you

738
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: went to you know, sex addiction rehab or whatever. Like

739
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: they're always going to say it. So I'm like, let's

740
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: just turn this into something where it could like help

741
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: people or be positive or like have a different message

742
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: than like she was cheated on La La and he

743
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: was really against it, and so I dropped it. And

744
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: then when I started my podcast, wind Out, it was

745
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: just me and someone who worked at iHeart, and you know,

746
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I told him, I was like, if you ever want

747
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: to come on, you know, you're more than welcome to

748
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: be a guest. We don't have to talk about everything.

749
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: But he came on and just started opening up and

750
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I was like, oh crap, like we're going there, and

751
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, when we got done with it, he was like, man,

752
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: he's like that felt really good to just like talk.

753
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: And because when you get on the podcast, Mike, it's

754
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: like you can't no one really sees you. So you're

755
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: just like talking cathartic. Yeah, you have these conversations that

756
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: can lead kind of get you into trouble sometimes because

757
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: you become so open and honest. Yeah, And so he

758
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: just started talking and then from there he's like, man,

759
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: maybe we really could help people because he had saw

760
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: all the comments on my Instagram like that was so helpful.

761
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 1: And so that was when we were like, Okay, let's

762
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's do this together and let's help people.

763
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: The problem was he was still not in active recovery.

764
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: So even though he was saying he was, so where

765
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: it became this shit show was things kept happening or

766
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: relapse has kept happening, and so it just became this

767
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, our show as a train wreck, just with

768
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: one thing after the next of something else happening and

769
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: me being like, how would you do that again? And

770
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: like we're saying all this on the air. So I mean,

771
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: I think a huge regret of mine is that it

772
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: was speaking so openly with the wounds and not like

773
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: a scar, right, So it was just, oh, it's something

774
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you probably started with this benevolent idea of this will

775
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: be healing for everybody, and we are kind of past it,

776
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: and when you realize this is still an open bullet wound,

777
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: it was too late and you're like, yeah, we got

778
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: to keep going with us, and now what do we

779
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: do exactly? And I think that was you know, it

780
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: ended up. As much as we loved the idea of

781
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: helping people, I mean it both. I think it was

782
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: a big piece of the continuing like he was always

783
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: going to be the perpetrator and I was always going

784
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: to be the I just kept highlighting, and I think

785
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: that really drove a wedge into our marriage. You know,

786
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: for him and I both, how are y'all doing? Now?

787
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: Obviously you co parent, you have two beautiful kids. You know,

788
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: as someone who's divorced with children and has to co parent,

789
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,479
Speaker 1: you figure all that out. Your kids are much younger

790
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: than mine. How has that been? The first year was

791
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: really tough obviously because there was a lot of anger

792
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: and hurt on my side and there was anger and

793
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: hurt on his side. I mean, he had he wasn't

794
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: happy with you know how um you know, I think

795
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: because I kept like talking about it, and so that

796
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: was really difficult for him. He's like, why can't you

797
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: just stop, like we're done, stop talking about it? And

798
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, I'm helping people and this is

799
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: my like and so trying to find like that balance

800
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: was was tough and so and yeah, and with my

801
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: therapist too, she was just I kept wanting to have

802
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 1: like this apology or like for him to accept it,

803
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: and and it just we just I kept wanting to

804
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: talk about it and be like, don't you see now

805
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: it's like we're divorced, Like Janna, shut up. Yeah, You're

806
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: never gonna get that moment, right, You're never gonna get

807
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: that those words that just make it all okay. Yeah,

808
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: And I think it was really hard experiencing first that

809
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: first year, like you know, not having them for the

810
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: first Thanksgiving or this, that and the first are hard. Yeah,

811
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: the first are, Like it was so hard. But I

812
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: journaled a lot. I wrote a lot during that year,

813
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: which hopefully I'll be able to help people with that

814
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: when I poventually be able to get that out. But

815
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: so that was tough for us because I had so

816
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: much anger and like just truly hate those moments, and

817
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: those moments, those first are not only painful, but they

818
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: can drive that hurt even more because you're laying there.

819
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: I remember the first night I didn't have my kids

820
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: and I had bought a house to kind of quietly

821
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: move into. I didn't tell we had to announced it yet,

822
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: and I remember I didn't even have like window coverings

823
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: and shades up yet, and so I was like, and

824
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have a bed, I had a mattress on

825
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: the floor. I'm laying there without my kids, thinking what

826
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: the hell? And you do? You get anger and it's

827
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: hard and you're hurt. There's a lot of those emotions,

828
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: and like you said, the first holidays in school and um,

829
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: it's difficult, and a lot of people don't talk about that.

830
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah and I yeah, and it was I remember the

831
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: first time we went to like Julie's and Jolie was

832
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: going to kindergarten that year, and so you know, you

833
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: walk in and you just see like the two chairs

834
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just sit next to him, like

835
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: we just got divorced, and I'm just like and you know,

836
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: that was just there's so there's so many first that

837
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: year that yeah, we're just so hard. But I'm really

838
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: proud of us how we've been able to turn it

839
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: around the last I would say seven eight months, Like

840
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: we've really been able to communicate, well, we're working well together. Um,

841
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think once I put aside our stuff

842
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: and was just like, okay, let's co parent the best

843
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: for our kids, and uh, you know I I the

844
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: first kind of olive branch was I invited him to

845
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: Jay's birthday party and it was tough, but at the

846
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: same time, like, my focus is my kids. So if

847
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: they can see us laughing, having a good time, all

848
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: of our stuff doesn't matter anymore. Like all of that

849
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: is my own work. So it's like I don't have

850
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: to like I don't need the I don't need an

851
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: apology from it, and I don't really technically need to

852
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: forgive him, Like it's just what Right now, they're doing

853
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: a great job, and I hope it can go on

854
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: that Well. What you just said is so huge and

855
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: it's so important for parents out there who are going

856
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: through this jan and I feel your pain, but it

857
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: is you have to just remove yourself. Your relationship doesn't

858
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: matter anymore. It's all about your kids and it's all

859
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: about just putting them first. And you know, we did,

860
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work for everybody, but we did the

861
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: rule of you know, any sporting events, any school events,

862
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: any major like birthdays, that kind of stuff. Everybody's welcome.

863
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: You know, mom and dad are welcome period. If it

864
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: was at my house, she's welcome her house, I'm welcome.

865
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: And we just dealt with it. And there is bitterness

866
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: and there's little snide comments, and you've got to swallow

867
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: your pride a lot. And you leave and you're more

868
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: upset than when you can. But you you said that

869
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. The kids saw you.

870
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: The kids know you're present, they know you're happy, and

871
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: they you know that you're working on it, and that's

872
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: it's hard, but it's huge. You've got to put them first.

873
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: And I try to just swallow the things that like

874
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: i'd love to say, or the comments or how I

875
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: feel like, because I don't want my kids to ever

876
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: feel that anxiety too. So I'm just like, yeah, you know,

877
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: And tomorrow we're coaching Jason's baseball team together, like we're

878
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: doing like I'm like, hey, do you want to coach

879
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: with me? Like it's just we'd think it's easier usually.

880
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, I'm painting with a broad

881
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: brush because some things are so toxic and so they

882
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: never recover. And I feel for those parents because having

883
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: those moments, it gets easier and it gets better and

884
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: you start to enjoy it well. And the thing too

885
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: is it's like I could I see how some divorced

886
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: parents are and like just how much they hate each

887
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: other and they don't talk and they're talking through things

888
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: and I and you know, I could. I could hate

889
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: my ex for the rest of my life and for

890
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: everything that he did. But I'm at the end of

891
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: the day, I'm like, I don't like carrying any of that.

892
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: So I'm like I have to, like, in a way,

893
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: let it go for my kids, because I'm like, I

894
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: just I can't carry that like hatred for someone. Look

895
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: where you are, you're in love, things are great and

896
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: this you know, that got you to hear yeah, and

897
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: you have two beautiful kids to show for it. But

898
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: it's interesting because he had said something um to me.

899
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, you've really changed since being in

900
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: the relationship, and I go, I want you to know

901
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: that it was We had one conversation where it was

902
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: kind of like it come to Jesus and it's like,

903
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: we want to be there for the kids together, letting

904
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: them us, you know, letting them see us happy. And

905
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: I was like, it was that conversation that I was

906
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: able to because he kind of acknowledged a few things.

907
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, I can just step away from

908
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 1: you know, certain things and talking about certain aspects. And

909
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: has Alan met Mike yet? Has he met your x um?

910
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to talk about that

911
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: piece yet, but there will be the day for sure. Okay. Yeah,

912
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean obviously it's going to happen to some point

913
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: if you guys stay together. That's always an interesting one.

914
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Of that dynamic as well. I mean I've been through there.

915
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Lauren has met my X and we've we've taken those

916
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: steps in the in the more you date and the

917
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: more serious you are, that's what happens. And the same

918
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: thing meeting the kids and being together. All those questions

919
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: are hard for a single parent. It's so tough, and

920
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to navigate the best because again, the

921
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: end of the day, my kids are my world. So

922
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: I just want them to be happy, and that's it.

923
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: That's all we can do, is the best we can

924
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: do at the time. That's it He gave for us. Though,

925
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Look how happy like this is good, amazing. I know

926
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: we have come a long way. We have a question

927
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: how old your fiance do you want kids? No? No? Okay,

928
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: a discussion we've had o heay, And again an important

929
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: discussion to have as you're getting into a relationship and

930
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about marriage. And I have two kids previously

931
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: that are now in college, a junior and a freshman,

932
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was not looking to start over. And she,

933
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: through her own life experiences, also doesn't want to have kids.

934
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: So that part of our relationship was amazing. As we

935
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: came together. How about you? Do you want to have more?

936
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm too old, but I'm old. You're not

937
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: even You're not even forty yet. This year I will do.

938
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: You're knocking on the door hill, so you think you

939
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: think that ship is sailed. I again, I never say never,

940
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: but I think, um, I can say never. No, unless

941
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: it's a miracle, I can say never. So so the

942
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: door is not completely closed. Never say never. But that's

943
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: that's your feeling at the moment. Yeah, I don't think. Um,

944
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: what about more country music? Yeah? Excited that song Later

945
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: this year we're going to put out into an EP,

946
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: so I'm really pumped about that. So I'm just like, um,

947
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: one's just a really fun song. Where it? Because I

948
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: was like, I'm so sick and tired of writing about

949
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: like oh my God, I got hurt and you broke

950
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: my heart and the so, um, I have a song

951
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: coming out this summer that's just like I was like,

952
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: I want to write just a really fun girl anthem

953
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: and it's fun. Oh good. Well, your your freshman album,

954
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: self titled Jenna Kramer, came out with twenty twelve, and

955
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: then in twenty fifteen, the sophomore album, which is supposed

956
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: to be harder and less successful. Absolutely blew up. I

957
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: think what you had seven singles that that hit the charts,

958
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: you were nominated for Female Vocalist of the Year. I mean,

959
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: you were all over I'm a big country music fan.

960
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm such a geek, and you know, you were all

961
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: over the highway and all over satellite radio. I loved it.

962
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Every time you came up. I was like, yes, thank

963
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: you and so. But but I was wondering, Okay, what's next, Like,

964
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: I know you've been so busy with so many other things,

965
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: but I hope you get back to country music. Yeah,

966
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely am it's it's it's so. I

967
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's hard for it is a

968
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: lot harder for women. But I'm not on a label

969
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: anywhere very much. So yeah, so without being on the label,

970
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: which was so frustrated to be when I got dropped,

971
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: essentially I had outcharted some of the guys they still

972
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: have on the record label. So I'm like, how unfair

973
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: is it that you're dropping me when I've outcharted these

974
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: people that have never charted. So it's just I never

975
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: really truly made sense to me. But you know, I

976
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: think at the time too, I didn't really I just

977
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: had my son Jason. I didn't want to be out

978
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: on the road anymore because tourings are really lonely life.

979
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: And I think the downfall for me was that I

980
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: had other options, so like I came into country music

981
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: from being an actress. So I think because I had

982
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: a fallback, I guess or something else that I did

983
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: before it. I didn't fight. I could have kept if

984
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything else, I would have kept fighting, right,

985
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: And so now I'm like, oh, do it for fun

986
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: and I love just doing music and I'll play shows

987
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: every once in a while. But you're going to drop

988
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: some music this summer. Absolutely, I'm super excited about that.

989
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Send those to me. I want a preview.

990
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: I know, I'm excited. I'm very excited. I can't wait

991
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: for the for the new music from Janna Kramer. Before

992
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: you go, can we completely do a one eighty? Yeah?

993
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk this something Lauren and I do

994
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: every show, we go over the dramatic headlines of the week,

995
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, we covered we covered some, but I

996
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: want I saved some for you because I knew you

997
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: would be great to gossip with. Okay, great, let's do it.

998
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: So we're gonna jump in dramatic headlines of the week

999
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: with Jana Kramer. Um. We got to talk about Harry

1000
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: Styles Emily Radikowski making out in Tokyo. Okay, So, you

1001
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: know what's so crazy? As I saw her at what

1002
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: show it was? It was in New York. It's a

1003
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: polo club, Okay, it was right. She had broken up

1004
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: with her with her husband, right, and I'm like, she's

1005
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: just she's beautiful. But you know what my first thought was,

1006
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: I felt bad for what's her face? Who was just

1007
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: with her? With him? Wait? Ted Lasso's ex wife, Oh,

1008
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: Olivia Wilde. Yeah, that was my first That was my

1009
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: first thought was like I didn't know where that was going. Yes,

1010
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: I know, so, yeah, Harry was Yeah, so Harry had

1011
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: just been with Olivia Wilde Emily Radikowski apparently what divorced

1012
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: six months ago, and they clearly she's touring with him

1013
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: or hanging out with him in Japan and they had

1014
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: a serious makeout. Sash. Here's a thing very public. They

1015
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: knew they were on the streets, they knew they were onlookers.

1016
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: They were like leaning against a car with the umbrella.

1017
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: It looked very aged. Yeah, I mean that's such a

1018
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, that's such an indictment to say it was staged.

1019
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: But they very much knew these photographs were going to

1020
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: go all over the world very quickly. So that's yeah.

1021
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because I'm like, wasn't she front

1022
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: with who's the other guy that dated Pete Davidson? Yeah,

1023
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: she was just with him too, So I mean, listen,

1024
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: she got she's got a note. Obviously she doesn't want

1025
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: to be private, so and I think she just want

1026
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: to Maybe she's wanting to get back at her acts.

1027
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Okay, That's what I was going

1028
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: to ask you. Is someone who's been through some rough

1029
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: and tumble times relationship wise hooking up with Pete Davidson

1030
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: now Harry Styles, Um, is this a rebound? Is this

1031
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: the I don't know if you can call them both

1032
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: bad boys? But like, what what is this she's going through?

1033
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: I think? And this is something where I can say,

1034
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: you don't go to certain restaurants if you don't want

1035
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: to get photographed. So I remember after my divorce, I

1036
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: went to a certain thing because I'm like, you know

1037
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: what I want to look like. I'm like, I'm over you,

1038
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: and I don't. You're going to You're going to Katsuya,

1039
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: You're going to Nobu, going to catch Yes, it used

1040
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: to be the Ivy back in the day. Yeah, there's

1041
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: there's certain restaurants you know the paparazzi are just hanging outside.

1042
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna Craigs is another good one where

1043
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: there's always paparazzi hanging out. Legs is so good. But yeah,

1044
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: I definitely you know she's I make up that it's maybe,

1045
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of get back over you. Yeah, Okay,

1046
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I just I see this the Pete

1047
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: Davids into Harry styles and and I'm like, okay, she's

1048
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: soiling her oats getting back at the X. This is

1049
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: some sort of revenge or something, right, Because you can

1050
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: be private, you can, That's the thing. There are ways

1051
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: people do get you. And I do know that from

1052
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: what I went through that they can get you walking

1053
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: out of a dunkin Donuts at times. But there there

1054
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: are times when you know, Kylie, Kylie Jenner can hide

1055
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 1: her entire pregnancy for nine months, you can be private

1056
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: there you go just um in speaking of divorce news

1057
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon different. That one broke my heart a little bit.

1058
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: But you know, can I can I be honest? Yeah? Go.

1059
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: I don't follow Reese on social media, but I feel

1060
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: like I see her a lot red carpets and all this.

1061
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was married. Oh really, when I

1062
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: heard she was divorced, that's the first time I learned

1063
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: that she was married. So yeah, that one surprised me,

1064
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: just because, like you said, like how private they are,

1065
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: but knowing Ryan and kind of how he did her wrong,

1066
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: I was. It just looked like she found her person right.

1067
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: So that one, that one made me sad, especially how

1068
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: private they've been too. Yeah. His name was, by the way,

1069
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: Jim Toth. I had no idea I was this many

1070
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: days old when I learned that Reese Witherspoon was not

1071
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: only married but now getting divorced. But I guess this

1072
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: is something that's also been rumored around Hollywood for quite

1073
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: some time, that this was probably going to happen. Oh really, See,

1074
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm like so out of the game that, like I

1075
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: have no it was something hanging out in Nashville. Oh no,

1076
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: you you're hanging out now? Oh? Oh yeah, yeah, speak

1077
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: of going on in Nashville. I was like, oh, when

1078
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: you wanted to get photographed, is that where you went?

1079
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: You went to catch or were you in Nashville? Yeah?

1080
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: I love that you knew that. And you're like, I'm

1081
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: gonna go out, I'm gonna put on Did you put

1082
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: on like a revenge dress, like something hot? And you're like, oh,

1083
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: I didn't, but I should have. I just put on

1084
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: a real happy face, and that's all I thought I

1085
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: needed at the time. You know, were you ever spotted

1086
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: like making out with anybody doing the Emily Radikowski? No,

1087
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: not not that far. And also, can I admit I

1088
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: did not know who Emily Radikowski was. I had heard

1089
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I feel like she's one of these people, especially for guys.

1090
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: I've heard the name and I'm like, is she a

1091
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: famous actress? Is she? I didn't know. I had to

1092
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: really google who this person was. I was like, I'm

1093
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: going to be an idiot when I realized that she's

1094
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: an Oscar winner or something. Turns out like she did

1095
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: some modeling and she kind of did some acting. But

1096
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: I didn't feel so bad, like she's not someone that

1097
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: has been in front of us publicly that much. Yes,

1098
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: so she's I remember from Gone Girl, I thought she

1099
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: did great and that yeah she was Ben Affleck's significant

1100
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: other and Gone Girl, Yeah, I thought she did great. Um.

1101
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: And you know, even when I saw her Pole Lounge,

1102
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: I was like, man, she's she's very striking in person,

1103
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: and um, you know, she seemed she seemed friendly. I

1104
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: gave her a little smile. I love the Polo Lounge.

1105
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: By the way, the burger is off the chart? Can

1106
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: I can you know? Can can I tell you my cheat?

1107
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: They have a pistrami sandwich. And I know this sounds

1108
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: weird getting at the Polo Lounge, but you get it

1109
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,479
Speaker 1: as an appetizer. Tell him to slice it up into

1110
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: fours and get the pistrami sandwich as an app I'm

1111
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: talking about falling off the wagon on your diet getting

1112
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: that and then a stake at the Polo Lounge. Heaven, heaven, great.

1113
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of I'm a big wine person, yes, and I

1114
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: didn't mention this off the top before I say goodbye.

1115
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: I gotta let find out what are you doing with

1116
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: this wine? Okay, So I'm really excited. We just signed

1117
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: with a very big wine distributor. So um, crossing my fingers.

1118
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: That's going to be in a lot of places very soon.

1119
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: What the same of it's how the one brick, one brick?

1120
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: Where'd that come from? It actually came from my book.

1121
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: It says anything can happen one brick at a time,

1122
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: so one bottle, one brick at a time. I love that, Janna.

1123
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: It was so good catching up with you. I love

1124
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: that we are here. Yeah, and I you know, I

1125
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: hadn't talked to you in quite some time, and I

1126
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: heard you were dating somebody. But to see how happy

1127
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: you are, to see how this is kind of just

1128
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: showering over you right now makes me happy. I'm really

1129
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: happy for you. Thank you, I appreciate it. And good

1130
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: luck tonight as you step out and Janna Kramer and

1131
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: her boyfriend Alan Russell going to be red Carpet official tonight.

1132
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: So when you get up tomorrow, if you listen to

1133
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: this podcast today, get up and you got to google

1134
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: the pictures of the red carpet for the iHeart Music Awards.

1135
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever. I can't wait

1136
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: to see his dress. I know I'm a little worried now.

1137
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: All I know you got hair and makeup. I know

1138
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: you got to get ready. Alan's not there? Is he

1139
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: is he standing there listening to all this? He is?

1140
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: He does. When he mentioned the dress, he just but

1141
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: tell Alan, I'm I'm a huge soccer fan. And so

1142
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: someday he and I are going to do a different podcast,

1143
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: the kind of podcast nobody will ever care about because

1144
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: it'll be just us geeking out about soccer. Stems up.

1145
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: He wants to do like a soccer podcast, So that's like,

1146
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, and talk about like because you know, he's

1147
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: big on like the striker and whoever scores and stuff,

1148
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: so like you know, he'll bring you on as a guest.

1149
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm all in you, guys. I wish you the best,

1150
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: good luck tonight, have a blast, all the love and

1151
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: I will talk to you very soon. Okay, love you guys,

1152
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most

1153
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: dramatic pod ever and make sure to write us a

1154
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: review and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you

1155
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Speaker 1: next time.