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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and Jetty.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at CNN in a number of places, leading

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Speaker 4: with India Pakistan, as India flew fighter jets into Pakistan

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Speaker 4: and had some pretty major hits further in than they've

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Speaker 3: Pakistan claims they downed a couple of Indian jets. Everybody's

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Speaker 3: working to verify all the claims on each side.

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Speaker 4: A couple of nuclear powers, and this is either a

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Speaker 4: minor dust up that will go into the long list

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Speaker 4: of dust ups over the last seventy years, or become

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Speaker 4: a giant, giant war. It's hard to say AnyWho. I

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Speaker 4: just looked up Free. I can't believe this is even happening.

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Speaker 4: Oh how many times have I said that in recent days?

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Speaker 4: As I look at the modern world, I can't believe

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden sitting in a chair doing an interview. So

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Speaker 4: he did an interview with the BBC. I haven't heard

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Speaker 4: any of it, but he looks a million years old.

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Speaker 4: He looks older than he looked when he left the

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Speaker 4: scene a year ago, and now he's gonna beat him

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Speaker 4: and Jill are gonna be on the view today and

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Speaker 4: they're criticizing Trump on policy. What do they think they're doing?

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Speaker 4: Who she must be in charge? She is, She's like

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Speaker 4: Belichick's girlfriend. I mean, she has just taken over from

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Speaker 4: an old man and is making bad decisions.

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Speaker 2: Reminds me of.

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Speaker 3: When a sixty four year old Madonna did a tour

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Speaker 3: in which she was gyrating and showing her crotch and

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Speaker 3: the rest of it. She just couldn't give up the

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Speaker 3: sex pot thing. Well, Joe and Jill cannot give up

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Speaker 3: the we're important, relevant movers and shakers thing. They're congenitally

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Speaker 3: unable to y'all.

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Speaker 2: Bet you're right.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem with becoming a US senator at age

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Speaker 4: twenty nine when I was a tiny kid and Noel.

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Speaker 2: Semi, who am I if not that? Nothing says Biden

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Speaker 2: to himself.

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Speaker 3: But I'm thinking an ice cream cone is it drips

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Speaker 3: stickily down his withered hand And.

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Speaker 4: They obviously have no handlers telling them because it is

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Speaker 4: only going to do them harm. But how do they

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Speaker 4: not have the self awareness? Not only does the half

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Speaker 4: of the country, well, the eighty five percent of the

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Speaker 4: country that didn't think you should be president not want

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Speaker 4: to hear from you. Nobody in your own party wants

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Speaker 4: to hear from you. There's nobody on your side of

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Speaker 4: politics that has any interest in anything you have to say.

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Speaker 2: How do you not know that?

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Speaker 3: It's like Dylan mulvaney showing up to the bud Light Convention.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's like, oh, no, Wise.

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Speaker 4: Here, Oh that is something AnyWho.

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Speaker 2: They just released an early clip. If you want to

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Speaker 2: hear it, go ahead, Michael.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, boy Kruger, Michael Christmas, counter cutter.

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Speaker 2: You check.

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Speaker 4: You tricked this like Sean used to do every single

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Speaker 4: time back in the day.

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Speaker 2: God, and how long ago was that? Yeah? I know

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Speaker 2: when he's declined signific well he just a month after months.

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Speaker 2: It's pathetic.

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Speaker 4: So yesterday, the new Prime Minister of Canada goes to

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Speaker 4: sit in the what I like to call those Zelensky

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Speaker 4: chair there in the open office where you sometimes get

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Speaker 4: yelled at him belittled, depending on how things are going.

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Speaker 3: Just a question of how tense and humiliating it's going

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Speaker 4: So we didn't we didn't get into this yesterday. It's

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Speaker 4: probably worth setting it up. This way, did you see

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Speaker 4: Trump's post that he put out during the day, right

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Speaker 4: before he got there, Right before the Canadian Prime minister

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Speaker 4: got there. Trump puts out a post basically saying Canada

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Speaker 4: needs to be the fifty first state and just lays

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Speaker 4: out the whole thing again, like right before the guy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, World leaders like Carnie have had to get

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Speaker 3: down the how to parry or deal with Trump maneuvers

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Speaker 3: that had gone kind of you know, they laid fallow

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Speaker 3: for four years, but now they're back to it realizing

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Speaker 3: all right, he just he blurts stuff out via social media.

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Speaker 4: Don't react or is he just testing to see like

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Speaker 4: if you are you the kind of personality that can

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Speaker 4: over if I just keep asserting this.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm just going to be well, you're halfway

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Speaker 3: through your your sentence. I was gonna say no, it's

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Speaker 3: just Trump. He blurts things. He's a blurter, and I

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Speaker 3: still believe that. But your theory right there not a

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Speaker 3: bad one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear a little how it went down.

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Speaker 1: I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens,

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Speaker 1: tremendously lower taxes, free military, which honestly would give you

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Speaker 1: essentially anyway, because we're protecting Canada if.

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Speaker 2: You have had a problem.

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Speaker 1: But I think you know it's it would really be

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Speaker 1: a wonderful marriage because it's two places. They get along

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Speaker 1: very well, they like each other a lot. Well.

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Speaker 5: If I'm a as you know from real estate, there

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Speaker 5: are some places that are never for sale.

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Speaker 2: We're sitting in one right now, you know, bucking and Palace.

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Speaker 5: You visit it as well, and having met with the

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Speaker 5: owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last

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Speaker 5: several months, it's not for sale, won't be for sale ever.

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Speaker 2: See. So right off the bat, Trump pushes the guy.

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Speaker 4: I think it was just a personal Does he have

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Speaker 4: the guts to stand up against this?

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Speaker 2: He lays out, it'd be a benefit to your guy.

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Speaker 4: Taxes would be lower, military protection, everything like that.

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Speaker 3: It'd be pretty great, be pretty plenty. Belittles the guy

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Speaker 3: a little bit too. Let's face it, we've been protecting you.

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Speaker 3: If there's every problem, we would you know it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we rolling, and Carney's like, well, I appreciate that, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's just stay friends.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to move in.

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Speaker 3: The uncomfortable yet gentlemanly encounter went on.

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Speaker 5: The opportunity is in the partnership and what we can

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Speaker 5: build together, and we have done that in the past.

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Speaker 5: And part of that, as the President just said, is

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Speaker 5: with respect to our own security, and my government is

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Speaker 5: committed for a step change in our investment in Canadian

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Speaker 5: security and our partnership. And I'll say this as well,

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Speaker 5: that the President has revitalized international security, revitalized NATO and

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Speaker 4: Okay, so he throws a little bone to Trump to

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Speaker 4: you know, say something nice to him.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely part of the playbook. Ye, But it rolls

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Speaker 3: on our fifty first state.

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Speaker 5: But you consider what mister Carney just said that Canada

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Speaker 5: is not for sale.

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Speaker 2: Does this make it the discussion a little more difficult

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Speaker 1: No, not at all, No, not at all. No time

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Speaker 1: time will tell. It's only time. But I say never

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Speaker 1: say never. I've had many, many things that were not

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Speaker 1: doable and they ended up being doable, and only doable

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Speaker 1: in a very friendly way. But if it's to everybody's benefit.

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Speaker 1: You know, Canada loves us and we love Canada. That's

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Speaker 1: I think the number one thing that's important. But we'll see,

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Speaker 1: I mean, over time, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: So in any successful career, I think you become good

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Speaker 3: at what we've become pretty good at during various meetings

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Speaker 3: through the years, which is smiling pleasantly, looking attentive, nodding,

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Speaker 3: and saying completely non committal things much like an oral surgery,

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Speaker 3: just waiting until it's over, and then going about your life.

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Speaker 2: The way you were going about it before the meeting.

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Speaker 2: And that was what Carnie was doing.

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Speaker 4: My favorite part where Trump talks about you look at

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Speaker 4: a map, I mean, that just looks so good together.

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Speaker 2: It's just like one entity.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I understand beautiful things that that

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Speaker 4: line used to eliminate that, and it looks so good together.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just thought that was hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Well, and in Trump's defense, it does look good. It

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Speaker 4: looked good. Is it one big country?

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Speaker 3: Well, not only does it look good, it looks kind

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Speaker 3: of appropriate ish appropriate ish.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I meant to say.

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Speaker 3: In just geographically speaking, culturally speaking, and the fact that

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Speaker 3: there's a line between Canada and the United States is

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Speaker 3: just like this accident of that weird colonial period in

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Speaker 3: the seventeen hundreds when it was the Pritz versus the French,

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Speaker 2: Again, there's some Indians.

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Speaker 3: And then the Britz and then Us, and we said,

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Speaker 3: go to hell, Britz, and Canada's like, yeah, I see

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Speaker 3: it just there's no great reason to have the line.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, it's been there for a hell

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Speaker 3: of a long time and it's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Polling, this is a ninety ten issue. I saw the

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Speaker 4: polling yesterday. Ninety percent of Americans don't think Canada should

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Speaker 4: be a fifty first date, so about half. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not exactly something people.

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Speaker 2: Are hot for. I know, it's just so silly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Now, the reporting is that after that sit down, the

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Speaker 4: Canadian Prime Minister said to Trump privately, I want you

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Speaker 4: to stop referring to Canada as the fifty first state, which.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Trump finds hilarious. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, but being a dick for no good reason is

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Speaker 3: not a good strategy, and if indeed he's driving towards something, okay, great.

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Speaker 3: But if it's just alienating one of our closest allies

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Speaker 3: and we get nothing out of it, not good. Just

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Speaker 3: showing you're a tough guy to be a tough guy

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Speaker 3: not good in diplomacy, doesn't work, doesn't work long term.

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Speaker 4: I personally don't want to add a more left California

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Speaker 4: to the map for our national government. I don't see

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Speaker 4: how that benefits me in my politics in any way.

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Speaker 3: Right, there would be a period of transition, by which

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Speaker 3: I mean like three quarters of century in which we'd

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Speaker 3: have to sort that out before a Conservative was ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd rather not Well.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't see all of it, for sure, if actuarial

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Speaker 3: tables are accurate, but I'd hate to see it at all.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, enough of that.

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Speaker 3: Let's put it to bed under a nice thick blanket

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Speaker 3: because Canada is very cold, and move on to things

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Speaker 3: that matter. So I was, I was brainstorming on this

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Speaker 3: just before we did this commercial Jack, as Michael told us, stay,

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Speaker 3: photo albums, genital Why you're an idiot. Thieves are going

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Speaker 3: to come in try to steal my genitals. Well, they

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Speaker 3: haven't done me much good. You can probably leave them.

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Speaker 2: It's my computer. What are you protecting you.

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mean from thieves?

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Speaker 3: Oh, not a fight, like it's my computers if they

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Speaker 2: Pair of shoes.

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Speaker 2: But in general.

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Speaker 2: What one hundred and fifty percent tariff on like all

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Speaker 3: In Apple fans, Apple is holding the line on cost

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Speaker 2: It can't.

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Speaker 4: Tim Cook said last week they're going to have to

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Speaker 2: It's the only way to stay in business.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to get into the current negotiations that

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Speaker 4: I know you were planning to take your kids to

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Speaker 3: The government's finances are screwed up. Wait till I tell

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Speaker 3: I just saw them walk out for the whole concave thing.

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Speaker 4: Armstrong. And so I'm watching live some of the pope

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Speaker 2: A lot of other parts of the country. Anyway, just

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Speaker 4: All the cardinals walking in and chanting their prayers and

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Speaker 4: and they've been doing it in there for what'd you

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Speaker 4: So today's real ID day. I'm in warning us about

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Speaker 3: And we're all safer as a result if I send

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Speaker 3: Have you ever had a coughing fit you thought would

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Speaker 4: It actually started in the ninety five, as I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 4: If you don't remember that horrifying day, the dude's wife

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Speaker 4: enough to you know, rent a car, buy this stuff

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Speaker 4: though that had nothing to do with it. All the

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Speaker 4: I don't make any difference. So are you against security?

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Speaker 4: Where did the name real ID come from? This sense

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Speaker 4: in Brenner you might remember his name, He was involved

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Speaker 4: And some college kid told him when we call those

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Speaker 2: The law. Sorry, Jim Sense and Brenner are Ohio.

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Speaker 4: The law had two goals, have state's issue IDs that

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Speaker 4: least a little bit of a background check on these cards.

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Speaker 4: The problem was, and this is actually a problem in

441
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 4: some states, there was almost no process for getting the

442
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 4: state driver's license or state ID usually it's a driver's license.

443
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 4: There was almost no background check whatsoever. And because of

444
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 4: the way we do things, if you had an ID

445
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 4: in that state, you could go anywhere in the country

446
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 4: with that, and so there was almost no requirement to

447
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 4: have one.

448
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 2: Populist state in the Union.

449
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: For instance, excuse me, California, where you could be an

450
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: illegal immigrant you snuck into the state. The only idea

451
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 3: you have is that which you had faked up in

452
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 3: LA while you were waiting to get settled, and you

453
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: go get a state driver's license.

454
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: And you're on your way to anywhere you want in

455
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: the US. It's a great system.

456
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Speaker 4: So the blog got complicated when they had to avoid

457
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 4: the highly political controversy, which we've talked about for years

458
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 4: in talk radio, of creating some sort of national ID

459
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: card by still having you know, a state by state

460
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 4: because people hate the idea of a national ID. They

461
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 4: quote this person and I only bring this up because

462
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: it's funny. This woman named Faith Bradley, a professor at

463
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 4: George Washington University who wrote her doctoral dissertation on the

464
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 4: implementation of the real ID. That is a life not

465
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 4: well spent. I, sweetheart, I know, is there something else?

466
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 3: I didn't want to study the reproductive habits of some

467
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: little frog that lives in the boxing a.

468
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Speaker 4: God, You dedicated seven years of your life to writing

469
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: a paper about the implementation of the real.

470
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 3: ID how to increase the yield of grain by one

471
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: percent like virtually anything.

472
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: Half the states in the country resisted the real idea

473
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 4: at first, so it took some sort of federal coursing

474
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: to get them to go along with it, citing cost, privacy,

475
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: and the burden for people of having to provide extra documentation.

476
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 4: This is you know, preying upon the poor and disenfranchised.

477
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 4: Those states just want people that shouldn't have IDs to vote.

478
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 2: We know how that all thing works. Absolutely, Yeah, they're

479
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: voting today.

480
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: So you had, you know, fiscally conservative states saying, hey,

481
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 4: don't put all this financial burden on us. Then you

482
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: had the states that want everyone that can breathe the vote,

483
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 4: whether there should be a citizen or not. You combine

484
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: those two things, and you had a lot of states

485
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Speaker 4: that are up against it. The result, twenty years on

486
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: is a variety of flavors of real ID. Most states

487
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 4: use a star or a star inside a circle, or,

488
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 4: in the case of California, a star inside a bear.

489
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: Which of the id's are compliant with the federal standard?

490
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: Boy, and you should have heard this sounds that bear

491
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 3: made as we were getting the star inside of them. Oh,

492
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: by the way, you're talking about the compliance earlier. Are

493
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 3: you gonna go back to that and talk about that

494
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 3: You ought to probably ought to reset that. I'll save

495
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: my comment until Jack brings us the hilariously low compliance rates.

496
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Speaker 4: Uh, yeah, I will get back to that. So yeah,

497
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 4: So I guess I've seen the California one. It's a

498
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 4: star inside a bear. I don't have one, as we know,

499
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 4: so I no longer can visit federal buildings, which is

500
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: again already everybody.

501
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: My wife is feeling a vacancy. Have you told the kid?

502
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 2: I have to tell you something. We cannot visit any

503
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Speaker 2: federal buildings today.

504
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 4: It's basically an enhanced driver's license, as we don't know,

505
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: and there's a little bit of a background check.

506
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah.

507
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Speaker 4: Millions of people have yet to even apply for the

508
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: real ID in all kinds of different states. I've applied,

509
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: I just don't have my appointment yet to the compliance,

510
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 4: which is absolutely amazing. The most compliance and the entire

511
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: country is New Jersey, which has seventeen percent compliance. Seventy

512
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: so forget about it. That's pretty funny. How am I

513
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 4: going to get into about a being without a real ID.

514
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: Maybe they'll let you in. But it's very common across

515
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 4: the country. I mean, you pick a state. Let's look

516
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 4: at Montana. They appear to be in the twenty to

517
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: forty percent compliance zone. Let's look at Georgia. Georgia doing

518
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: pretty well. They're between eighty and one hundred percent. Way

519
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 4: to go to Georgia, But you get down to Arizona,

520
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 4: and they're also twenty to forty. California is forty to sixty.

521
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 4: Way more of us that didn't get it, even though

522
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: we had all these warnings than we did. I don't

523
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 4: know what that says about Americans or America or our

524
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 4: government or what. I don't know if it says anything,

525
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: it's got to say.

526
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Speaker 3: I got a note from Mike, the attorney in Chicago.

527
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: Low compliance for real idea in Illinois is doing part

528
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: because the Illinois Secretary of State runs a DMV so poorly.

529
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: People can't get in, they can't get appointments. Many just

530
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: gave up. I was going to pop that it's mostly

531
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 3: a terribly run abusive blue states.

532
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: But the states you mentioned no clear pattern to me. Well,

533
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: it could be different reasons in different states.

534
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: You could have the I don't do what the government

535
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: tells me to do crowd, and then you could have

536
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 4: blue states where it's just like I was doing it

537
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: in California.

538
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: That whole having to have.

539
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: You got to verify who you are with like an

540
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 4: electric bill or a lease or whatever, and it has

541
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Speaker 4: to have.

542
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Your middle name on it. I kept getting rejected.

543
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry, I don't fill out my PG and

544
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: E bill with my middle name. I've been given my

545
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: initial or not my whole life. So it's just odd, right,

546
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: just silly.

547
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: And you could change that by you know, calling PGNI

548
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: and saying, put my middle name on there going forward,

549
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: and then a month later you could get your real ID.

550
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: There you go, there's your security, and thank god, I

551
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: will not hijack a plane because of that. Yes, Katie,

552
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: what do you have to contribute?

553
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 6: Well, I flew yesterday and in line there were probably

554
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 6: thirty ish people ahead of me, and everybody who didn't.

555
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: Have a real ID, they gave a little piece of

556
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: paper that.

557
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 6: Said time is running out and scan this little quirk.

558
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: Every single person in front of me got one of those.

559
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 6: There was not one person in line that had a

560
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 6: real idea.

561
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so now here's the part, and this is where

562
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 4: the media has failed. I saw this on Fox News Nation.

563
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: I haven't heard this anywhere else. They were at one

564
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: of your major Northeastern airports. I don't know which one,

565
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 4: but they said there is a special line over there.

566
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: If you do not have a real ID, they will

567
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: send you over there. You will get extra security, but

568
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: you will get on the plane. They said, We've asked

569
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: for details, they're not giving us any. So the TSA

570
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: has got some sort of special we will let you

571
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: on the plane. Is this true at every airport in

572
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 4: the country that it's like a you know, the homework

573
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: is due Friday, but we didn't really mean it. If

574
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 4: you get it in on Monday, it still counts. I mean,

575
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 4: so is that what's going on? You can still get

576
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 4: on the plane. But it's a full body cavity search.

577
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 4: It's the old squat and cough.

578
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: I mean they're gonna go over plays fine toothed, calm,

579
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: shave your head to make sure there's nothing delaus in

580
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: your hair.

581
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: Delousing sheep tip and the whole treatment.

582
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 3: Cut your fingernails down to the nubs, ladies, to make

583
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: sure you haven't hitten a bomb under there. So you

584
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: want to be a scoff law huh? If it were

585
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: up to me, you know what, you'd get that little

586
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: QR code and they'd hit you with a night stick

587
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: and then they do the search. We gotta get compliance

588
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: in this country.

589
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: Get up on the stool. We got to make sure

590
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: you're not suitcasing something.

591
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm a boy Scout leader from Omaha. I served in

592
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: the army.

593
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: Squat and cough.

594
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: But doesn't this strike you as odd that they've decided

595
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: you can get on the plane without the real ID.

596
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: But they're not telling the media or the media is

597
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: not reporting it. I mean, what kind of what is this?

598
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: It is the classic strategy, and I'm slightly surprised you

599
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: don't recognize it of the underachiever, the underachiever being the government.

600
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: You act as though you've read the book. You mumble some.

601
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: Incoherent Kamala Harris asked phrases about the story of lawyer

602
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: and his daughter who doesn't like racism, have not read

603
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: They were Kula mocking bird.

604
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: They were calling the wild the wild. So there was

605
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: a calling of the wild, and then there's a big

606
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: wolf dog and snow right exactly.

607
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: And so you you hold up the pretense that you've

608
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: accomplished what you claimed you would accomplish.

609
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: But really so that's funny.

610
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: I actually thought that they probably meant it this time,

611
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 4: like we've delayed a million times, we actually mean it now.

612
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: You can't fly unless you get this ID. And I thought, well,

613
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 4: that's fine, you've warned me a million times. But at

614
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 4: the same time, like I said earlier, what you got

615
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: a Newark airport, you got five out of ten travelers

616
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: or business travelers.

617
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: This is how they make their living.

618
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: And you're gonna say you can't fly because you don't

619
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: have the star with the circle on your id, because.

620
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: You don't know if you're an airport where they can't talk

621
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: to the planes half the time. Now you know what

622
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: it is, Jack, And this is weird. This thought just

623
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: clicked into my head and I can't decide if.

624
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: I believe this or not.

625
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: I think it may actually be a fairly healthy response

626
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: from the government of a free people. They are saying,

627
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: in effect, look, this is a dumb policy.

628
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Trot it out dumbly. It didn't make it easy.

629
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Nobody's really serious about all this. We kind of went

630
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: through with it because we said we were going to.

631
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: If you don't have it, come over here. We'll ask

632
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: you a.

633
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: Couple of questions and then you can get on your plane.

634
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: It's a confession of sorts.

635
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: You know what it'll be, and then it'll be people

636
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: like me. It's such a pain in the ass to

637
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: go to that longer line. I guess I'll finally get

638
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: an energy bill with my middle name on it, so

639
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 4: I can get this dang thing and not have to

640
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: go in that line.

641
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 3: Plus at the airport I run, which I'm going to

642
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: name Joe Hare International, you're gonna get tired of getting

643
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: those licks from the night stick too. Well, you'll go

644
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: down to the DMV with your electric bill with your

645
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 3: middle name mom there and you will comply.

646
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting is the body cavity searches get

647
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: easier over time.

648
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: Ah right, maybe we should take a break. You get

649
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: used to it. Oh boy? Uh, we got any any

650
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 2: thoughts on this? Our text line four one, five two

651
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: nine five KFTC.

652
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 7: Shot a shadowy network called seven sixty four whose goal

653
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 7: is to spark violence and chaos around the world, in

654
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 7: part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers. Seven sixty four targets

655
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 7: kids on social media and gaming platforms, extorting them into

656
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Speaker 7: sending violent and sexual content.

657
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: The FBI is warning.

658
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 7: Parents to pay attention to who their kids are talking

659
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Speaker 7: to on social media and gaming platforms.

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Speaker 2: The FBI is.

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Speaker 7: Investigating more than two hundred and fifty suspects tied to

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Speaker 7: seven sixty four, with every.

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Speaker 2: Field office involved. Well that's just dandy.

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Speaker 4: I am a parent of teenagers who'd never even heard

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Speaker 4: of that in my life until two seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: So that's just great.

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Speaker 4: Let's just put that on the long list of things

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Speaker 4: you can be concerned about.

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Speaker 2: If your kid's got a phone.

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Speaker 3: Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if

671
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: your kid has a phone. I was just reading that

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Speaker 3: the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas out

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Speaker 3: of commission?

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Speaker 2: What was that? Six years six months ago, a year ago?

675
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Time flies when you're old, but they brought down all

677
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: those casinos for a time. That is a very loosely

678
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Speaker 3: assembled group of bored, malcontent, mischievous youngsters who call themselves

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00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: the con or something like that. And this specific subgroup

680
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: of the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider, I guess, and

681
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 3: they just they hack into various corporations and companies and

682
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: government institutions and stuff like that for fun and mischief,

683
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Speaker 3: and sometimes they steal, but sometimes they.

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Speaker 2: Just screw with it.

685
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Speaker 4: That whole keep track of who your kids talked to

686
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: on social media and everything like that sounded a lot

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Speaker 4: easier before, well before my kids got old enough to

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00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: be involved in that world. And as far as I

689
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: can tell, I'm more strict than a lot of my

690
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Speaker 4: son's friends parents are and it's still just I mean,

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Speaker 4: there's just so many opportunities for them to be involved

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Speaker 4: with bad people. I mean, unless I'm gonna be over

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Speaker 4: his shoulder all the time, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was a very big fan as a parent, partly

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Speaker 3: for that reason, and I completely support the idea of

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Speaker 3: trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do bad

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Speaker 3: things one hundred percent. But I realized at one point

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Speaker 3: what you're talking about, and so I just really emphasized

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Speaker 3: the underlying principles right behind doing some things and not

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Speaker 3: doing some things, and how extremely important they were to

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Speaker 3: me as their dad and their mom certainly, but how

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Speaker 3: important and fundamental they are to being a good person

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Speaker 3: and a bad person. And then when they're loose on

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Speaker 3: the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope and

705
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: pray they make the right choice, and or if they

706
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster.

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Speaker 4: Right, which has a lot to do with their friend

708
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 4: group and everything else, which has always been true. But man,

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00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: the opportunity to get in trouble is exponentially greater now

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Speaker 4: than it was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just

711
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: a completely different world. You couldn't order heroin and in

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Speaker 4: a machine gun from any tiny town in America when

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Speaker 4: I was in high school, or come across a you know,

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00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 4: an international pedophile sex ring.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I was going to bring up a kind of vague

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00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time

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00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 3: to get into it now, but.

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Speaker 2: Has to do.

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Speaker 3: And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really,

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Speaker 3: You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But

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Speaker 3: a friend of mine characterized kind of a move as

723
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the

724
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Speaker 3: early eighties, classic.

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00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: Early eighties like eighty three. When was that out?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, you may recall that when all the ghosts were

727
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: running wild in New York City, one of the things

728
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: they did was like spread this green slime around. The

729
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: effect it had was not just you know, green slime

730
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: is effect enough, yick, but it caused New Yorkers to

731
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: be angry and disagreeable and turn on each other. And

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Speaker 3: we're discussing a very local context and also the angst

733
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: and unhappiness of youth, and the fact that incumbents all

734
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Speaker 3: over the developed world are getting tossed out of office.

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Speaker 2: And the parties.

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Speaker 3: That have been fairly stable and in power, you know,

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00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 3: they switch places now and again, but they're just getting

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Speaker 3: tossed aside. There is a near global feeling of angst

739
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: and unhappiness that I don't ever recall before.

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Speaker 2: What do we do with this information? To do about it?

741
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: We get used to it, do we settle into some

742
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 4: or it just keeps getting worse.

743
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Speaker 3: Buy heroin and machine guns on the Internet, like you're

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00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 3: discussing earlier.

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Speaker 2: Campus Madness Update Next Hour.

746
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Speaker 3: If you don't get Next Hour, you gotta go grab

747
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