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Speaker 1: you through it. They've been protecting Tennesseeans four seventy five years. Well, Mac,

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Speaker 1: here we are. It is the off season. We took

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Speaker 1: some time, we have unwound, we have decompressed, and now

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Speaker 1: we are moving forward. I'm Amy Wells. Coach Mack is here.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we had some technical difficulties these last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, so I feel like we haven't talked to

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Speaker 1: you guys in a while, but we are still here.

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Speaker 1: We have some things to catch up on. Want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that we're all on the same page as

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Speaker 1: we are entering the off season. Is sound good? Mac? Sure? Sweet?

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Speaker 1: All right? Glad you're on board. So a recap of

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Speaker 1: things that have happened in the last few days and weeks.

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Speaker 1: The Titans have begun their general manager search. They've interviewed

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Speaker 1: some candidates internally. Ryan Cowden Monty awesome for it, who

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Speaker 1: is now officially the general manager of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to him. YEP also interviewed external candidates Ian Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Harris, Glenn Cook, Ran Carthon is the other one. Mac.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the Titans wasted no time doing these interviews,

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of the point, right, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean think that when John Robinson was released, that

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Speaker 1: gave them a lot of lead time, you know, some

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Speaker 1: time still left the season to start to start casting

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Speaker 1: in it, you know, for these interviews, and they've had

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Speaker 1: as you said, you mentioned them all the various candidates

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Speaker 1: that have been in here, and that's what you have

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Speaker 1: to do when you make this kind of search for

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Speaker 1: this kind of a position. It's a big position, it's

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Speaker 1: a big deal, and there's a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: the team kind of can do or wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: do until they get a general manager in place, especially

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to the roster. Correct. Well, well, you

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Speaker 1: can't make any final decisions until you get a general manager.

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Speaker 1: You can, you can do, you can. It's ongoing. See,

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Speaker 1: this draft class was started to be evaluated as soon

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Speaker 1: as the draft was finished last year, even before that,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you always work at least twelve fourteen

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Speaker 1: months ahead in the personnel department with your collegiate players

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Speaker 1: that you're looking at. So that has been an ongoing process.

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Speaker 1: But until until you hire a general manager, you cannot

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Speaker 1: start to make salary cap decisions, you cannot start to

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Speaker 1: make free agent decisions, you cannot start to really start

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Speaker 1: putting together a plan because the draft process is still

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Speaker 1: a fluid process at this point for everybody. Nobody's made

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Speaker 1: any draft decisions yet. What everybody is doing now is

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Speaker 1: manipulating their board, you know, and working that and then

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Speaker 1: those things have to happen, but they happen on a schedule,

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Speaker 1: and so all of that is to come. But the

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Speaker 1: groundwork has been laid regardless of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: that process has still been going on. But you won't

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Speaker 1: on who your new general manager will be other decisions

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Speaker 1: that need to be made. The Tesse Titans have an

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator position to fill Mac take us behind the curtain,

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Speaker 1: because we hear a lot about head coach searches. We

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Speaker 1: you kind of have does Mike Raywell have a list

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Speaker 1: in all those situations. You always have a list of people. Now,

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Speaker 1: But you are when you're when you're especially a coordinator,

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Speaker 1: But they also I mean, you always have in mind

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Speaker 1: In that also, the Titans roster, of course, is going

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Speaker 1: We can't do anything. We can't address anything. And you know,

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Speaker 1: this podcast has never been about speculation. There's enough hot

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Speaker 1: all of that. That's not what this is about. We're

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Speaker 1: you get someone in place those decisions because those decisions

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be important here. Another thing that

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Speaker 1: what in the world, Second, the Jags lost the turnover

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Speaker 1: The Chargers did not lose a fumble. These are some

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Speaker 1: it will be definitely tune into that. The super Bowl is,

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Speaker 1: of course in February. I'm not harping on that because

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Speaker 1: we're not going um and then the scouting combine, which

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Speaker 1: I love in Indianapolis. We're going back to where it

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Speaker 1: should be and it's coming up. Mac. Have you started

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Speaker 1: you're evaluating I've started it several months ago. Seriously, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you sleep? No? Not when football is going on,

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Speaker 1: because I mean going on. If we're going to do

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Speaker 1: and have a good idea of what's going on with

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Speaker 1: Titans radio. When I came here and they asked me

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Speaker 1: to start helping with the draft, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do it just like I did it when I was coaching. Now,

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Speaker 1: when you're coaching, you have other people. You have a

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Speaker 1: army of people giving you the information once the season's over.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've got an army of two. Me and

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Speaker 1: Rehet have a staff. Ret's my staff. Does he know that?

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Speaker 1: Yes he does. He asked to be that, so I

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Speaker 1: taught him the draft. But yeah, you've got to start

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Speaker 1: a little bit early. I've got a lot of contacts

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Speaker 1: and know a lot of people in the in not

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Speaker 1: only the scouting world, but in these national draft publication

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Speaker 1: world that I mean in constant contact with because they

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Speaker 1: know I have thirty seven years of evaluating talent, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's a it's a ping pong game,

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Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth all the time, and starts starts

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Speaker 1: maybe the last you know, the last month of the season.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, Well then the combine can't come

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Speaker 1: fast enough for you, I'm sure, because that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: a whole new slew of measurables. Well, the thing that

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Speaker 1: you get out of the combine now that you don't

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Speaker 1: know is the medicals. That's huge. That the medicals are big.

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Speaker 1: And then I go to everywhere all the workouts and

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Speaker 1: you know sit there. Only it just gives you, especially

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Speaker 1: if you've been doing it for a while, which I've

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Speaker 1: been to every combine that they've ever had in Indy,

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Speaker 1: is that you've got a database to refer back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, as to what's going on now, situation that

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Speaker 1: I'm in now, you know when we're there, you know,

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Speaker 1: just from behind the curtain. Peak Rehet does a nice

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Speaker 1: job of going and getting interviews from the podiums and around.

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Speaker 1: You and Mike do a nice job of getting interviews

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Speaker 1: with people surrounding it. And then what what I do

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Speaker 1: is I you know, I talked to coaches. I talked

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Speaker 1: to coaches, and every every time that when the position

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Speaker 1: groups are working, I will sit with the position coach

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Speaker 1: is in the in the stadium that are there that

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, and we'll just talk about you know, players.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I look forward to it. And then you

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Speaker 1: fill out your your notebook, your MacBook. I do. I

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Speaker 1: love that notebook. I love it so much. Tell the truth,

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Speaker 1: you don't like it. Because you called me the other

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Speaker 1: day and you said, Mac, I'm getting you a new

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Speaker 1: notebook and I said, I've already started my notebook and

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Speaker 1: you said, well, yours look so dull eared by the

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Speaker 1: time we do Titans draft work. And I said, Amy,

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Speaker 1: it's because it's a workbook. He said, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: it to I just wanted it to look nice. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna get you something with more of a sturdy cover.

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Speaker 1: That raggedy cover gets all mangled and torn and you

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Speaker 1: whip it out and it looks like you threw it

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Speaker 1: off a building. So I was just gonna get you

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Speaker 1: one like one of those five Stars, with the more substantial,

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Speaker 1: thicker plastic cover. You started this conversation off by saying,

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Speaker 1: I love your notebook. Okay, I love your raggedy notebook.

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Speaker 1: Love that you have a notebook. I wish it didn't

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Speaker 1: look like it had been lost in a fire. That's all, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Well, no new MacBook for you, but I tried,

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Speaker 1: maybe i'll buy you one in like August. The last

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Speaker 1: thing you said when I said I have one, I'm

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Speaker 1: already started on it. I don't need one. And you said, Mac,

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Speaker 1: I'll never try to get you something nice again. And

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Speaker 1: that's the way you ended it. Oh, we're devolving Mac.

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Speaker 1: Another NFL season in the books, it is behind us. Now.

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Speaker 1: This was what your eighty fifth season in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League or something like that is And the thing

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Speaker 1: about this is the thing about the National Football League

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Speaker 1: is is really there's only one team happy at the

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Speaker 1: end of this whole thing, and then everybody starts again

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Speaker 1: and you start over and you can see now, I mean,

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Speaker 1: look the Super Bowl champion last year that people were

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Speaker 1: predicting out there in LA that was going to be

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Speaker 1: a dynasty for years. They won five games this year

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Speaker 1: and because got people hurt, They lost their quarterback, they

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Speaker 1: lost their offensive line. You have to have your dudes.

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Speaker 1: How many times you heard me say that? And so

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Speaker 1: the National Football League and a space of the way

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Speaker 1: it's set up now with your free agency, but you

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Speaker 1: have got to manage your cap with you know things

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Speaker 1: that the way that you can rebuild a roster. Everybody

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Speaker 1: has a fresh start over and that's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have a solid base to start from. Well,

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Speaker 1: for this podcast, I think we have a solid base.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. It feels like we have a good foundation.

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Speaker 1: And here's to building in twenty twenty three. And the

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Speaker 1: Titans have got a good foundation here football wise, an

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Speaker 1: excellent foundation here. There's there's a lot to look forward

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Speaker 1: to for in twenty twenty three and beyond, both football

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Speaker 1: wise and podcast wise. Oh absolutely, and this and again,

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Speaker 1: this is a very very healthy organization, and let's go

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Speaker 1: to work. Let's go to work. Well, thank you to

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Speaker 1: Randy Wilmore and our friends at Farm Bureau Health Plans.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't do any of this without you. We really

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Speaker 1: just can't, so thank you very much to them. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take some time, some planned time, not technical

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Speaker 1: difficulty time, this is actual time. We are going to

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Speaker 1: collect ourselves. We are going to collect some new content,

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Speaker 1: and then we will be back with more on the

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