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Speaker 2: I mean we have to stop meeting like this, but

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Speaker 3: You know what they say, you know what they say.

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Speaker 1: You are the number one person of the kindest, nicest,

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Speaker 1: Everyone says that who has met you? And I just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Lionel's got a memoir out called Lionel's Memoir.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, through Lionel Richie.

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Speaker 2: You know my answers, but you know my answer, right.

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Speaker 1: I know Richie is with us. He's a tree lover.

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Speaker 2: you had to have a recognizable voice so that we

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Speaker 2: You knew that five seconds that was Willie Nelson, two

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Speaker 2: seconds that was Springsteen. You know what I'm saying. One

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Speaker 2: happens is now? And when I say on American Idol

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Speaker 2: I'm not looking at you by your voice? And that's

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Speaker 2: the real perfect example of what that's what I'm trying

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Speaker 1: You know, you check out his memoir it's called Truly.

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Speaker 1: There's also the doc it's called The Greatest Night in Pop.

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Speaker 1: You know, the other one that people should watch. I'm

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Speaker 1: That's another great documentary.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and believe me, let me tell you something. It

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Speaker 2: goes back to what I said in the book. Until

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Speaker 2: you understand, it's not having the hit records, it's surviving

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Speaker 2: the hit records. It's not having a career, it's surviving

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Speaker 2: your career. In other words, everyone keeps saying, Okay, I

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Speaker 2: got a hit record. Here we go. No no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no money same and power does not change you. It

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Speaker 2: only magnifies you. So all of a sudden, if you

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Speaker 2: want ego, it gives you all the ego you want.

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Speaker 2: The drugs you got all the drugs you want. Women

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Speaker 2: you got all the girls you got, I mean, everything

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Speaker 2: that can kill you. You have it in your hands

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Speaker 2: to either live or die in your fame. And that's

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Speaker 2: the real test. Can you survive it? And believe me?

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Speaker 2: Every day I wake up and I go I can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm still here. I mean, that's amazing because it's not designed.

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Speaker 2: It's not designed to survive me.

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Speaker 3: I know what you say every morning the mayor.

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Speaker 2: Would you like to say that? Would you like me

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Speaker 2: to say it?

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Speaker 3: Do we tag? Came it all? I'll start you finished?

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Speaker 2: So all right? You got it?

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Speaker 3: Alarm that doesn't go off so early?

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Speaker 2: But go here?

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Speaker 3: He gets up right, it's morning.

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Speaker 1: Time, gets out of bed, slowly makes his way to

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Speaker 1: the bathroom. Got a beautiful mirror in that bathroom, his

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's Lionel Richie.

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Speaker 1: I love you, buddy. I'll see you for auditions soon,

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Speaker 1: and good luck with this book.

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Speaker 2: Man, Love you all to death, love you bye?

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Speaker 3: You so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So got his perspective on being a celebrity too.

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Speaker 1: I loved hearing that

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Speaker 3: Coming up next to sold out chapelon ticket