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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast part of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network and proudly presented by Bett three sixty five. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Moman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: We've got a massive NFL show today with one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest NFL podcasters in the business. I'm not officially

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Speaker 1: introducing him yet. That's what's known in the entertainment biz

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Speaker 1: as a tease. I am joined as I am in

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Speaker 1: every episode by my bff, my companion, my compadre, professional

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Speaker 1: better mister Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Hello, So I'm in hellot Chad. How you doing, brother?

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Speaker 1: You are as everyone knows. You're in Hawaii for god

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Speaker 1: knows how long. I can't even keep up with it.

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Speaker 1: But you're wearing a little Hawaiian shirt today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because someone sent me a nice Eagles Hawaiian shirts.

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Speaker 2: I thought I'd busted out for the NFC show. Definitely

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Speaker 2: missing home, so anything I get from back home I

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Speaker 2: try to either wear or just you know, incorporating into

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Speaker 2: my life. So that going for the Sixers as well. Chad.

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Speaker 2: I was either not going to show up today or

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Speaker 2: be a static today. And luckily I'm here today because

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Speaker 2: the Sixers finally, finally, beat Boston at home in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I know it doesn't sound crazy to people, but Dolanbiad

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Speaker 2: is one in ten straight up headed into last night

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs against the Celtics. So not saying I

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Speaker 2: gave up Chad, but I gave up when they came

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Speaker 2: back in that game, I gave up. I'm one of

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Speaker 2: those Sixers fans. I'm kind of burned out, but there's

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Speaker 2: new hope. All we need is James Runner score forty

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Speaker 2: points and we can win every game.

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Speaker 1: As you know, Joel Embiid had a great line. The

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Speaker 1: Celtics Sixers isn't a rivalry because they always beat us.

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Speaker 1: But as you know, as you know, I'm old and

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Speaker 1: in the late seventies early eighties, when I was just

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Speaker 1: a lad, I in addition to being a Bulls fan,

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Speaker 1: I was a massive, massive Doctor J fan. And of

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Speaker 1: course my nickname growing up outside Chicago was doctor C.

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Speaker 1: And I could I could give you the starting lineup

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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Philadelphia seventy six ers from nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 1: I could probably go ten deep on their roster. I

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Speaker 1: would play basketball in my driveway and pretend I was

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Speaker 1: legendary spectrum Pa announcer Dave Zincoff, and I'd announce the

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Speaker 1: whole team with myself on it while I was playing

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Speaker 1: in the driveway. And in those early eighties years, the Sixers,

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Speaker 1: until they got Mosim Malone, could not get by the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: and it would give me stomach aches watching them try

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Speaker 1: to beat the Celtics. So I empathize with you, man.

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Speaker 2: Chad, that's your show. So you're a true American and

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Speaker 2: most American team and all of the American sports literally

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Speaker 2: named after our independence, our Freedom Day. The seventy six Ers, Chad,

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Speaker 2: weren't our American colors. I love that you're a fan.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to say one more thing. The

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Speaker 2: Boston fans. All these Boston fans talking shit. When was

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Speaker 2: to the Boston's last MVP in basketball chat? Do you

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Speaker 2: know when? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Probably Larry Bird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hopefully we get a championship this year. But

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Speaker 2: I cannot take these Boston fans like Sanka Gratz and

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Speaker 2: your MVP. It's fun. This was a fun year watching

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Speaker 2: Joel embiid. Let us enjoy something.

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Speaker 1: Please, Boston fans, I did love I like I love

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Speaker 1: Nate Welcome, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: You first teased me as the biggest podcaster, which I

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Speaker 4: thought was very literal because I am six five, So

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Speaker 4: I thought that was like, hey, that he is not lying.

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Speaker 3: That is what it says on the ten is just

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Speaker 3: the biggest NFL podcaster. So let's just keep it right there.

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Speaker 4: We don't have to look at talk about numbers or

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Speaker 4: viewership or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: What's that's what I mean, height and weight right there,

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Speaker 3: I'm exact.

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Speaker 1: Literally the biggest, the big podcaster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: But hearing you know, people they're a fan of Chicago,

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Speaker 4: Boston and Philly sports. As a person that's cheered for

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Speaker 4: a team from Seattle, in Minneapolis and Jacksonville my entire life,

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Speaker 4: it's really funny to hear.

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Speaker 3: Like the big city people like just go like they.

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Speaker 4: Talk about their teams like they're the scrappy underdogs and

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Speaker 4: like the there's only one hundred thousand fans I cheer

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Speaker 4: for this team ever, and it's like, meanwhile, you look

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Speaker 4: at the markets also coming in right here. Simon, by

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Speaker 4: the way, is that I was a little low on

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Speaker 4: not low. I thought the Eagles would a playoff team

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Speaker 4: this year, but like I took me about week seven

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Speaker 4: till I fully come around on them this year, and

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Speaker 4: i'd Eagles fans coming after me. They're just like no one,

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Speaker 4: you know, nobody believes in us. Nobody talks about the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: It's like you guys are like the fourth biggest media market.

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Speaker 3: What are you guys talking to? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 4: You're not the scrappy underdog like you think you are. Sorry,

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Speaker 4: Invincible is not every year for you, guys, But no, sorry,

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Speaker 4: but thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Log rant to.

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Speaker 4: Say, big, big, big, big, big podcaster literally right here,

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Speaker 4: but also very happy to be here on the show.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. I have a theory, okay,

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Speaker 1: and I talk about on this show all the time.

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Speaker 1: Simon doesn't disagree with me, but he knows it invites

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Speaker 1: listener ire, so he doesn't outwardly agree with me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But as someone who you know your father, as you've mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Seattle, you mentioned Minnesota, you mentioned Jacksonville, happen

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Speaker 1: to be places where your father was a coach, and

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Speaker 1: so I have a theory about NFL coach. I have

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Speaker 1: a theory about Jacksonville and Carolina and to a certain extent,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Indie. Like the teams that are in the NFC

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Speaker 1: and AFC South, they've got regional fan bases, will never

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Speaker 1: them the way they care about other teams that have

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Speaker 1: developed more of a history over the years. I feel

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Speaker 1: like their nicknames are nondescript other than the Colts and

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Speaker 1: tell me your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: I agree to an extent because they are they those

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Speaker 4: teams like the Jaguars and the Panthers especially, they have

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Speaker 4: the Curse of the nineties. So it's you know, exactly

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Speaker 4: when those teams are founded just by their colors, like

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Speaker 3: And also people.

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Speaker 4: Love winners, and if you look at obviously you guys do,

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Speaker 4: not just in a betting sense, but just people. People

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Speaker 4: kind of media falling or fan falling. It's all the

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Speaker 4: that band wagon that's sixties. Those sixties teams were really

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Speaker 4: So I think there's that's that double whammy is that

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Speaker 4: you're not of those big big markets like Carolina and Charlotte,

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Speaker 4: But it's also it's not their team. That's a big

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Speaker 4: thing too. It's happening here in Vegas right now with

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Speaker 4: the Raiders. Is Raiders, yes, have a lot of fans nationally,

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Speaker 4: but local Vegas fans are kind of like, well, it's

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Speaker 4: Oakland's and you know Bay Area that's not US but

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Speaker 4: the Vegas gold Knights.

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Speaker 4: But one of why the biggest gold Knights have a

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Speaker 3: Win, they win.

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Speaker 4: Everybody loves a winner. So it's at that combination of

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Speaker 4: who was winning early on, and then those parents had

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Speaker 4: kids and then kids. Well I grew up in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: winners rather than pile on to the Cardinals. So long

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Speaker 4: story short, I think there is it is tough to

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Speaker 4: of like a decade generational thing because now we're seeing

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Speaker 4: more Jaguars fans come up because now it's been around

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Speaker 4: some of those guys Tony Boselli, you know, most some

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Speaker 4: of those players that played for that franchise earlier. So

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Speaker 4: it's kind of you need time, but winning can really

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Speaker 4: put some nitro into that fan base.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything you've said since you said I

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Speaker 1: was right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's exactly what my wife says too. Yeah, that's a.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, once they become the London Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: All right, well, listen, we're gonna talk about NFC teams.

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Speaker 4: I think it's scary to draft a true historical outlier.

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Speaker 3: But Bryce Young was a little little for me.

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Speaker 4: I ended up having him as my quarterback three in

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Speaker 3: Those are my concerns with him.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Simon, I'm gonna ask you this first.

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Speaker 1: Sure I actually haven't asked you this yet in any

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Speaker 1: Well, look right now with bet three six five. The

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I say a lot of words, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Me to run back to you. Matt Mitsure gave me.

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Speaker 1: The Bears had a lot of money in their wallet,

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Speaker 1: But they didn't let it burn a hole in their pocket.

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Speaker 1: we're on the precipice of potentially falling into a contract

434
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Speaker 1: and talent abyss right, And we didn't know what was

435
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: going to happen with Jalen Hurtz. Could he get a

436
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: cap for a team friendly contract. We knew they were

437
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: going to lose their top running back. There were questions

438
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 1: about what was happening in the front seven. They were

439
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit thin. They lost one of their best

440
00:21:55,080 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: linebackers to the Bears in free agency. How he does

441
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: what how he does and makes the obvious choices, doesn't

442
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: try to outthink himself or anybody else. He gets Jalen Carter,

443
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: He makes really smart pick with Nolan Smith. He builds

444
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: back what you need to build on the offensive line,

445
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: Like I love he built the defensive backfield. The Eagles

446
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 1: were the best team in the NFC last season, and

447
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: I feel like they natally got better, but they put

448
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: themselves in a position to be better for a longer

449
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: period of time. Also because of the contract they signed

450
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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts. I'm surprised neither of you brought that up,

451
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Speaker 1: especially you Simon.

452
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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the general general fans know

453
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Speaker 2: that though the Eagles are the best, they just went

454
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Speaker 2: to Super Bowl.

455
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Speaker 1: It's right, they don't know that they were also in

456
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: a kind of precarious position after the Super Bowl, like

457
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: they had potentially a lot of talent hole and in

458
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: the span of three months, they've made themselves equal to

459
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Speaker 1: what they were on paper or potentially better in the

460
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Speaker 1: longer term, a.

461
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: Talent hold on what though they won their home game,

462
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: their first home game, they won thirty eight to seven.

463
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: Their second one, I think they won thirty eight to

464
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: seven Chad, So it's like, yeah, if they dropped fourteen

465
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: points out of that, sure, maybe it'd be a little

466
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Speaker 2: closer game. But the biggest reason the Eagles are just

467
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: a boring team to talk about is no one else

468
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: in the NFC improved to catch them. Right the forty

469
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Speaker 2: nine ers, we don't know who the hell is going

470
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: to be their quarterback right, and then you go to

471
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. I love talking cowboys. It's fun to shoot

472
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Speaker 2: on the Cowboys, but it's boring. It's like, Okay, is

473
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: dad going to take that next step? How the hell

474
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Speaker 2: do we know? There's just there's no team who put

475
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: ahead of them. So it's kind of I get what

476
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: the media was trying to make a case the Eagles

477
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: were gonna slip a little bit. There was just nothing there.

478
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: Like even the linebacker they lost to, you guys, Chad,

479
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: he wasn't that great until last year, like he improved

480
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: every year. But there's nothing like, you know, having people

481
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: step in and run a boring zone defense. That's literally

482
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: what we did last year. We ran the defense that

483
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: was we will let you stablish ninety nine times that

484
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: one hundredth time won't kill us. You're not gonna score

485
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown here. We're gonna hold you to a field goal.

486
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: It's a boring defense, but it worked. I mean, once again,

487
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: who knows how their defense is gonna be the upcoming year.

488
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: But I just know their offense. That was the whole

489
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: key to this. It's like if they keep their offense,

490
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: if they re signed hurts, they're brought back Aga. They

491
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: still have Smith on the outside and got her at

492
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: tight end and that o Lion Chat. I just I

493
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: never really wavered about it. To me, it's just a

494
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: boring team. The Eagles. We expect regression that just isn't

495
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: regression there because there's no really competitive team to challenge them.

496
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Speaker 2: So you know, it's something that loves good football. I

497
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: think the Cowboys to them is their biggest challenger. The Cowboys. Historically,

498
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 2: when you play a divisional foe, no one's gonna know

499
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: you better. So that's the only team, honestly, not the

500
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. It's the Cowboys. They're really worry me.

501
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: It's just a team that they know the Eagles really well.

502
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: Like they both play each other so well every year,

503
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: so I get where you're coming from. They're just it's

504
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: just a boring team, honestly, the Eagles, Like everyone's gonna

505
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: bet they're over, everyone's gonna take hurts for MVP. It's

506
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: just it's gonna be business as usual again. We talked

507
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: about it last year, first time in NFL history, first

508
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: time ever in NFL's history, a new coach and a

509
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: new quarterback, five years between two different Super Bowls, so

510
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 2: It's all about Howie. That's the key here. It's like

511
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: the players change, the coaches change. You got Howie, you

512
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: got Stotland, the greatest offensive line coach in football. It's

513
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: all gonna work chat. So that's just my view. And

514
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: the Eagles they're kind of a boring team. I don't

515
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: want to HiPE him too much, but holy shit, man,

516
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: are they really good.

517
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Speaker 3: I'm glad he brought up Stotland though, because it's that.

518
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: That's the thing too.

519
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: It's like, as long as he's there, psyching can leave

520
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: the offensive Cordier.

521
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, the.

522
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: Bread is buttered by that offensive line. So he's there,

523
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: and they always have a plan for the offensive defensive line.

524
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Speaker 4: That's why I love about Howie's even though he's a

525
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: kind of stat NERD's.

526
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Speaker 3: Dream, or at least everybody, but they all want to be.

527
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: It's hilarious that he doesn't chase like, yes, he chased

528
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: receivers and everything, but he goes no offense defensive line

529
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 4: like we're we're always replenishing those positions, and that's why

530
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 4: they are in this position to do this. So you

531
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Speaker 4: can drop in a quarterback and let him develop. When

532
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: Jalen hurts when he can just sit in the pocket

533
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: and clean pockets. And so I always just love that

534
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: with Howie is just he knows, he knows where the

535
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 4: strength of an NFL team is built, and he has

536
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: no kind of questions about that.

537
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Speaker 1: So interestingly at be three sus five, the Eagles are

538
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Speaker 1: eight to one to win the Super Bowl. Uh, the

539
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Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers seven to one to win

540
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. UH. And in the conference the hold on,

541
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Speaker 1: I can't find it, hold on, hold on to win

542
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: the NFC title. What's interesting is the Eagles are three

543
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: to one, the Niners are three and a half to one. Okay.

544
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Speaker 3: And also the Cowboys have Mike McCarthy now too. That's

545
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Speaker 3: is calling place.

546
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Speaker 4: That's the thing every time I get optimistic about the

547
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: Cowboys Mike, because I actually do like some of the

548
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 4: things I did this offseason, it's like Mike McCarthy's calling plays.

549
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: Now.

550
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: God, I always just always keep that in the back

551
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 3: of your mind when you talking.

552
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: About the Yeah, well listen, Nate, Yes, if I can

553
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: read back one of your many quotes from.

554
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: Your a lot of words from.

555
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: The Athletics NFL podcast, Mazy Smith was the last piece

556
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: this defense needed. Yeah, if these off season moves click

557
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: on this roster, watch out. Yeah, explain yourself the.

558
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: Other off season moves just to kind of check the

559
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 4: check that kind of conversation pieces they trade for Stefan

560
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: Gilmour and Brandon Cooks on either side of the ball.

561
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: I usually don't say that a thirty two or thirty

562
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: three year old cornerback is like a really good kind

563
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 4: of king making move. But for the Cowboys, they were

564
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 4: able to get through with basically bottom tier second corners

565
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 4: outside of Treyvon Diggs last year, which is kind of

566
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: remarkable of how aggressive they play, how much man coverage

567
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: they play. But why I said the Mazee Smith signing

568
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: for a draft pick their first rounder this year is

569
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: when they had last year when they traded for Jonathan Hankins,

570
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: who was a big nose tackle from the Raiders. They

571
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 4: traded for him, and after he came on board, their

572
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: run defense just.

573
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: Exploded in a good way.

574
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Speaker 4: I guess it exploded offense, it's a better way to

575
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: phrase that, but they became the best run defense on

576
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Speaker 4: first and second down in the NFL when Jonathan Hankins

577
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: was on the field, And it's like was even close.

578
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: And why that matters. I'm talking about Jonathan Hagens talking

579
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 4: about Maaze Smith. It's the same position nose tackle, So

580
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 4: they got a younger, more explosive best comparisons like don

581
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: Terry Poe type nose tackle that could be disruptive even

582
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: if he doesn't fill the box score. The rest of

583
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: that defense is so fast with Michaeh Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence,

584
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: even just outside of that, they're like Donovan Wilson, Jay

585
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: Ron Curse, all these guys they fly around, and so

586
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: getting a guy like Mazie Smith to kind of shore

587
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: it up and hold the fort on the interior built

588
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: through the spine of their defense kind of lets all

589
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: those skill guys, those fast guys fly around and go rogue.

590
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 4: Sometimes their defense goes rogue and they make up for

591
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: it because they're so fast. It's opposite of how the

592
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 4: Eagles play. Everybody's a sound, perfect zone. Everybody's sound and safe.

593
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: The Cowboys are flying around, running around, blitz, we're running

594
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 4: man coverage. Then we'll switch it off and uncover too.

595
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: So now he's just getting more this kind of soundness

596
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: in the middle. With Leyton vander esh as well, I

597
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 4: compared him to Machalele, the old soccer player, you know,

598
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,479
Speaker 4: kind of he was the central defender kind of shorted

599
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: up for the real Madrid. I know, I'm really just

600
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 4: turning the numbers here with that reference right there, but

601
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 4: I think that Mazy Smith just helps out the defense

602
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: as a whole and just really unlocks with the speed.

603
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: Of the rest of his players.

604
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 4: So it was a draft pick I didn't know I wanted,

605
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: you know, like when I was a neutral fan, I

606
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: was like, oh, that pairing, Yeah, I like that, And

607
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: so it was one I've gotten really excited about because

608
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: what I think the repercussions of what will happen for

609
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: the rest of his teammates on that defense. So I

610
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: think there's not gonna be much regression on the cow

611
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: Boys defense, But you know, just the offense we have

612
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 4: to still figure out with Mike McCarthy Collin plays.

613
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: By the way, the Dallas Cowboys right now bet three

614
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: sixty five twelve to one to win the Super Bowl

615
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: right there with the New York right there with the

616
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: New York Jets. Come on, come on, that's just ridiculous.

617
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are also plus five point fifty to win

618
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: the NFC. I don't think there's value on any of

619
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Speaker 1: these that we've talked about so far. But let me

620
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Speaker 1: ask a couple of YouTube questions. Okay, Simon, I'm gonna

621
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Speaker 1: start with you. Who is the best team to win

622
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: the fewest games this year in the NFC? So what

623
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: team do we think is really good is actually not

624
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: going to win a lot of games, but will look

625
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: good losing games.

626
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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the easy answer will be

627
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: the Lions. It's just they're gonna be the all hype

628
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: team coming into the year. I think the end of

629
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: the year eight and two, the public just loves the Lions.

630
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I think most better is like them as well. That

631
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: just would not be shocking to me them not falling apart,

632
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: but just them not being as good as people think

633
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna be, just because it's a team that I

634
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: just don't know if I'm buying in on the coaching yet.

635
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: I know they retain a lot of their guys. They

636
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: did well not losing guys, but man, I still have

637
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about this Lions team. I don't

638
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: know if they fix a lot of their issues on defense,

639
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: which was any team any team could run on the Lions.

640
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Like That's why I'll never get why they passed on Carter.

641
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: They were giving up. I mean, I feel like the

642
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: Eagles set the tone for their entire season. Eagles Week one,

643
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 2: I think ran for two hundred yards on them and

644
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: that was just how it was all year for them.

645
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: So a team that I think people have high hopes

646
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: before that could easily disappoint gotta be the Lions.

647
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: The Lions is a good one.

648
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: And if you're just looking at like maybe over under

649
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Speaker 4: total and to to see who's gonna miss it by

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Speaker 4: that much, I would look at the Saints, who are

651
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Speaker 4: right now, I think at nine and a half, I

652
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Speaker 4: think is their win toldal right now? Kind of know

653
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Speaker 4: what Derek Carr is And also you know, it's is

654
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: that much difference between Dalton and Jamison Jamis Winston said

655
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: Jameson Williams. It's taking the Lions Jamis Winston kind of

656
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: like you know tandem that we've seen there. It's just

657
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 4: that the really and there's a lot of players I

658
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: like it on Saints. I love Chris olave here was

659
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 4: my Rookie of the Year pick last year. You know,

660
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens with Michael Thomas. But you know,

661
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: but defensively, they lost a lot, especially their defensive line.

662
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: And for a team that doesn't blitz much. They run

663
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Speaker 4: some you know, simulated pressures where they bring four, but

664
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Speaker 4: they're still only bringing forward. It's not a true blitz.

665
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: They need rugged, badass defensive linement, and they lost three

666
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: of them this past offseason. So that defense has been

667
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: such a strength the last couple of years, kind of

668
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 4: low key one of the best defenses to watch, and

669
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: statistically as well, that Saints defense the last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: I think that defense gets a drop off even if

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Speaker 4: the offense, you know, gets a half bump off up

672
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Speaker 4: or a tier bump up. I just can see them,

673
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Speaker 4: like one injury and then the whole thing just you know,

674
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Speaker 4: house of cards just falls apart. So I think that

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Speaker 4: Saints team is kind of one that's their toe the line,

676
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: or they're walking a thin line between you know, a

677
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Speaker 4: ten win season or a five or six win season.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully they didn't trade next year's first round or because

679
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: or they have no kind of ambition to trade any

680
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 4: future draft picks like they like to do. So that

681
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: the Saints I'm kind of uneasy with, even if I

682
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: do like a lot of other players.

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00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: Saints are at nine and a half wins at bet

684
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Speaker 1: three six five, Detroit Lions at nine and a half

685
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: wins at bet three six five. Nobody mentioned either of

686
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: the teams that were nearly record setting in winning one

687
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: score games in which there is always some kind of

688
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: regression the following season. That is the Vikings and the Giants.

689
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: And if you were to say to me, if I

690
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Speaker 1: were to answer that quick question about sort of which

691
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: good team will lose the most games and probably look

692
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: good doing it, it's hard not to go with the Giants,

693
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: like they're going to be playing the Cowboys, who could

694
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Speaker 1: be improved. They're going to play in the Eagles, who

695
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: I think are as good, if not better. So why

696
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Speaker 1: are we not talking about the Giants at eight and

697
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: a half wins at bet three six five as the

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00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: team that will regress the most?

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Speaker 3: I guess I guess saw both of them regret.

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Speaker 4: Maybe in my head already have them regressing, so maybe

701
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: my discussion, I don't see either of them as playoff teams.

702
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: So like maybe in my own head I was like, oh, yeah.

703
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: There were only when seven eightish games anyway, so maybe

704
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Speaker 4: that's my answer with it, but I agree with maybe

705
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: especially the Giants. The Giants punched above their weight because

706
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: they're so well coached and they like what they basically said,

707
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, You're not going to ruin the game for us.

708
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: You're gonna have you just run play action at nakeds

709
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: and then you need to throw it down the field

710
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 4: to run. And that was their offense last year. And

711
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: let's get say, quant a whole bunch of touches. Let's

712
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 4: just do some pony offense. And then on defense, they

713
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: had nobody at linebacker, they had nobody really playing corner,

714
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: and they still were okay at times, which is like,

715
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: again credit to their coaches. So they might play exactly

716
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: the same this next year, even with a little bit

717
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 4: better talent, still seem like an eight win team. But

718
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: the Vikings, though, is they're trying to bridge between this

719
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 4: like quasi reload, quasi rebuild, but also kind of quasi

720
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Speaker 4: and competing right now, and I think that could easily

721
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 4: fall apart too. They wait, like I think their point

722
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 4: differential last year was five hundred. Anyways, like I think

723
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Speaker 4: they actually had a negative point differential last year, and

724
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Speaker 4: plus the fumble luck, I think they had, they've had.

725
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Speaker 4: They've so much going against them this year, and on

726
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: top of it, they've lost some talent too.

727
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Speaker 3: And yes, I know they.

728
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 4: Drafted some guys. Everybody has a draft, but I do

729
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: see the Vikings. Maybe in my head, Cannon, I already

730
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Speaker 4: pictured them already losing or being underwhelming and not being

731
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: a playoff team. So maybe that was not my answer

732
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: for the question, but I agree with that makings. I

733
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Speaker 4: can see you having an easy drop off this year.

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Speaker 1: Nate Tice, once again agreeing with Chad Molman Simon, Yeah.

735
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Speaker 2: I think one of my first bets I gave out

736
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: was the Giants under it's just it feels like it's

737
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: just by the book kind of play. It's a team

738
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Speaker 2: that I didn't. I didn't I put the lines over

739
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: them and the Vikings. Guy, I think Nate nailed it

740
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: where it's like we both everyone expects both of these

741
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: year to regress. The Vikings lost even though a defense

742
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: sucked last year. They lost a ton of starters from

743
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: last year's defense. On the flip side of the Giants,

744
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: I could see them improving, honestly, like they had no

745
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: receivers and Daniel Jones still somehow made it work, and

746
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: they were still gritting out these wins when he would

747
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 2: run for these random ass third downs and run for

748
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: ten yards and get her first down.

749
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Speaker 4: Well, his favorite betts last year was Daniel Jones rushing

750
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: overs like at every game.

751
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: It was the best and it just kept hitting like

752
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: he kept anytime he needed to make a play, he

753
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: kept making those plays. So it's one of those that

754
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: they were fortunate they had incredible coaching. But their regression

755
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: we all expect across the board for them is that

756
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: they won't have these fourth quarter comebacks they had. I

757
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: think it was more at the first six games they had,

758
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: they were down in the fourth quarter, not even single digits,

759
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: double digits, and they came back and won those games.

760
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: Like everyone's gonna remember that Lamar game. I mean they

761
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: were losing. I think Lamar had the ball, They're up ten.

762
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you picked it or funneled the ball.

763
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: They took it back for a touchdown. The next play

764
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: he got the ball back, he threw a pick and

765
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: they scored a touchdown. It was like a walk off winner.

766
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: So the Giants just had a lot of things bounced

767
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: their way. I'm with Chad, I expect the division to

768
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: be better. I mean, obviously the Commanders are. They're one

769
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: of those teams people are gonna better for wor worst

770
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: team in football next year, makes sense. But the Cowboys Eagles,

771
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: we expect them just to be as good. And I

772
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: just you know, when I look at this Giants team

773
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: did a lot of luck out of division, I just

774
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: don't see it repeat itself. Usually these coaches when they

775
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: take over a new gig, you don't have much tape

776
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: on their offense. They're gonna run. That's hard to really

777
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: prepare for. Now you have a whole offseason of the

778
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: most brilliant minds of football looking at this offense. He's

779
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: just gonna be different for this Giants team. So I

780
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: think the pressures on the Giants because they paid all

781
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: these guys, I see no pressure the Vikings. This feels

782
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: like a true tear down burnet team this upcoming season,

783
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: where it's well Kirk's last last year in the deal,

784
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: they got nothing on defense. They drafted a new I receiver,

785
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: which is awesome and good, that then not address any

786
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: of the real issues. That was a really stupid draft

787
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: pick by the Lakings. So once again, I just they

788
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: ad a home run on the Jefferson pick. Everything else

789
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: this team has done these last ten years just does

790
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: not really work, this Vikings team. So it's tough to say.

791
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: But in that division, I got it lines and I

792
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: got at the Bears, and then I do have it

793
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 2: really close between the Lakings and Green Bay. So that's

794
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: how I see is shaping up in that North division.

795
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: Hey, Nate, quick aside, there's a great question that came

796
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: in that I want to ask that I think is

797
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: really interesting. But since you have a six month old

798
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: and before the pod we were talking about kids, I

799
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: want to give you a little preview of what you're

800
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: headed for. While we were having this conversation, my phone

801
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: was ringing and it was my sixteen year old son,

802
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: and I know that he's home, so he's calling me

803
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: from somewhere in the house. So I texted him while

804
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: the phone is ringing, recording a pod done in a

805
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: little bit emergency question mark. He responded, Yes, the TV

806
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: in basement has no sound. Oh no, I wrote back,

807
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: that's not an emergency. He wrote back, we have different

808
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 1: definitions for emergency.

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: I can't wait for that.

810
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: I wrote back, You're funny, and that's why I don't

811
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: leave you with strangers, so good luck to parenting. Here

812
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: is here are two questions from listeners. This is from

813
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: AMP listener A Learn and I think it's a great question.

814
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: Could we ever see a defensive MVP? And the reason

815
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: he's asking this is because Micah Parsons is two hundred

816
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: to one. We know what an insane athlete he is.

817
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: We know he's bulken up to play defensive end. It's

818
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: very possible this guy sets a single season sack record.

819
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: Could that make him make him an MVP? Would that

820
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: make him a value buy for MVP at two hundred

821
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: and one, Simon.

822
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: No dumb bet. Cooper Cup had the greatest buy receiver

823
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: season we'll ever see, most likely, and he didn't even

824
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: come in a sniff length of winning MVP. It's just

825
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: it's a QB award. It's just the way the league is.

826
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 2: If we have a lockout season, I don't hate that bet.

827
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: If we have a weird shortened season where it's like

828
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: they're only going to play thirteen or fourteen games, I

829
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: do not hate those kind of bets. But in a

830
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: normal season, I just never Since I've been a pro,

831
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: I mean, growing eleven years now, I've never not given

832
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: out a quarterback for MVP. It's just it's boring. But

833
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: that's just the way the award goes now. Unless a

834
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: running back runs for a shit ton of yards and

835
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Speaker 2: their team is the number one seed, is not going

836
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: to go to anyone else but the quarterback. So I

837
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: get where he's coming from. I love those kind of

838
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: long shot bets, but I just wouldn't do it. I mean,

839
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: is he gonna have thirty sacks? And is a guywaysing

840
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: me a number one seed? Because that's what you need

841
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: at two hundred and one, that's not good enough for me.

842
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: I need maybe three hundred four hundred to one to

843
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: really get that payoff. There.

844
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Speaker 3: You're betting on a once in a lifetime season.

845
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, not exactly where how I like to put

846
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 4: my money throw my money at. And even you look

847
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 4: at eight ish, yes or years ago, seven years ago,

848
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: JJ Watt was having incredible historic seasons. I mean, if

849
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: it's looking back at those stats, it's even more comical

850
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 4: now as as you get further and further away from it.

851
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: And JJ Watt's got a lot of you know, good pump,

852
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: a lot of people like JJ Watt, and he didn't

853
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 4: get a vote.

854
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: So that's that. Yeah, I don't think a.

855
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 4: Guy like Michaeh Parsons or anybody else like that would

856
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: have to be It has to be a perfect storm,

857
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: like you said, has to be a true true shatters

858
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: a record true true fifteen and two team fourteen and

859
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: three team all time defense, and then that's like and

860
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: they might even get a couple of votes, much less

861
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: getting the actual award.

862
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: So I like more like a dB.

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Speaker 4: For Defensive Player of the Year than a defensive player

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Speaker 4: for MVP, if that makes sense, as far as got

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Speaker 4: like an outlier beat.

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Speaker 1: One last question from Ian from Egan. He's listening on

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Speaker 1: AMP right now. Last year, Seattle was considered horrendous heading

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Speaker 1: into the season. By Christmas, they were contending for that

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Speaker 1: playoff spot. Who is this year's Seattle Nate As a

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Speaker 1: Seattle backer, I'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I was a sale backer last year.

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Speaker 4: I had had over wins, i'd have playoffs, but I

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Speaker 4: was like I had over on there because I like,

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Speaker 4: I was a fan of GIDO.

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Speaker 3: If I had to pick.

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Speaker 4: A quote unquote a Seattle this year, it would be

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Speaker 4: the Falcons. Just that division. What the tape makeup that

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Speaker 4: offense is. I'm a big fan of Arthur Smith and

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Speaker 4: his offensive guru ship. I really do think he is

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Speaker 4: kind of an under rated play color right now because

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Speaker 4: people are too fascinated with Kyle Pitts's box score stats

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Speaker 4: as opposed to what he actually does as a play

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Speaker 4: color and a play designer. I think the defense will

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Speaker 4: not be great. I think they struggle to even be

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Speaker 4: like eighteenth in any advanced metrics DVOA or success rate

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. But if they can get to

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Speaker 4: that level twentieth eighteenth on defense, I think this is

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Speaker 4: a legit top ten offense. They were twelfth last year

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Speaker 4: in DVA, twelfth in EPA per play. I think they're

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Speaker 4: fifth in success rate as an offense last year, and

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Speaker 4: that's with Marcus Murriota throwing half the throws into the

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Speaker 4: stands like so and Tyler Olgiar and Cordero Patterson running back.

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Speaker 3: Now they got Bijon. I'm a fan of Desmond Ritterer.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to be like a superstar

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Speaker 4: or anything, but I do think he could be an

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Speaker 4: average ish quarterback in this league, or above average. He

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Speaker 4: can get to that golf tire that's kind of like

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Speaker 4: my threshold. Can he get to the golf tire? And

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Speaker 4: I do think Rider can in a perfect world get

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Speaker 4: to that, and they're giving him no excuses. So Falcons,

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty bullshan because I do like their offense. I

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Speaker 4: think their offense could be really, really good, and I

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Speaker 4: think the defense they get an injection of talent as

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Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator from the Saints that will kind of

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Speaker 4: change things up of how he attacks, and I do

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Speaker 4: like that. I think Dp's kind of ran this course

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Speaker 4: as an NFL defensive coordinator. Even if I rarely respect

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Speaker 4: coach Piece, but I really like where the Falcons are

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Speaker 4: going as a team and I think they could surprise

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Speaker 4: some people this year first sweep.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we are in Atlanta Falcons podcast. We always

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Speaker 1: have been, to our detriment. We always will be, because

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Speaker 1: they are always the team that is undervalued in the

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Speaker 1: market because you know why, they're an NFC South team

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Speaker 1: and nobody gives a fuck. But if I can quote

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Speaker 1: you back, Matt Mitchell did such good research before this podcast.

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Speaker 1: It was one of the teams that he quoted you on. Okay, quote,

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Speaker 1: this team is clearly all in on their weird offensive

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Speaker 1: identity and I'm into it. I'm bullish on Arthur Smith

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Speaker 1: and this actual positionless foot Simon, you can have one

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Speaker 1: minute to give an answer for Ian from Egan's question

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Speaker 1: about who is this year's Seattle. I don't want people

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Speaker 1: to walk away from here not having your opinion on

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Speaker 1: this question.

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Speaker 2: My favorite left for dead. Nobody believes as US team

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Speaker 2: easily this season's gonna be Arizona. Arizona, They're terrible, they've lost,

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Speaker 2: They've got to the team. What do they have that's

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Speaker 2: left though? Chad Kyler Murray and we know this kid

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Speaker 2: when he's right. I mean, he's obviously one of the

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Speaker 2: top five best quarterbacks in the NFC, Like the NFC

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Speaker 2: just doesn't have good quarterbacks in that So to me,

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Speaker 2: at four and a half, he's worth the risk of

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Speaker 2: taking it over. It's like that Watson last year in Houston,

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Speaker 2: where I think they're over under with six and a half,

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Speaker 2: people are pounding the under. I think they might have

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Speaker 2: went six and ten. But it's one of those where

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Speaker 2: I agree Arizona's horrible. I don't thin they're gonna win

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Speaker 2: any type of Super Bowl, but four and a half

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Speaker 2: wins I could easily bet that over. It's same thing

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Speaker 2: where Seahawks weren't that good of a tea, but they

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Speaker 2: had the pieces there and they got lucky in different games.

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Speaker 2: So to me, if Arizona keeps NWK Hopkins, they keep

943
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray head into the season, I don't hate them

944
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: to be a team that could easily go over four

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Speaker 2: and a half.

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