Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: and Stan Patrick Show. Seaton's been working on an impression.
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Speaker 1: What I'm going to talk to Herbie mcclvin. You don't
Speaker 1: do any impressions except for my spot on British accent. Okay,
Speaker 1: hell Governor, clean your chimney, man, that's incredible. H Seton
Speaker 1: does bred Farve. Of course, that's it, that's his bred Farv. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll still be playing, of course, and do another one.
Speaker 1: I don't. I kind of do them and then forget
Speaker 1: about them. I do them in the moment. What's the
Speaker 1: other one in? McLevin? Remember Backham for years and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll hit yeah, here's are very query quick, very very quick.
Speaker 1: You keep them tight. Okay, But Seton's been working on
Speaker 1: another one because this time of the year, we spend
Speaker 1: way too much time analyzing what's going to happen this
Speaker 1: upcoming season, and sometimes the analyst really doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to add. It turns out you can make a lot
Speaker 1: of money not adding anything. Yea stories, So Seaton's been
Speaker 1: working on his NFL analysts impersonation. How about I say,
Speaker 1: and let's bring in Seaton O'Connor. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: Patriots situation here at quarterback Bill Belichick. Okay, has a
Speaker 1: big decision to make right now. Okay, do you start
Speaker 1: Cam Newton week one? Or do you go with your
Speaker 1: first round draft pick Mac Jones. That's the question the
Speaker 1: Patriots are asking themselves right now. See, it didn't really
Speaker 1: add anything, No, but you did talk for a little while,
Speaker 1: right like, because it's a very pointed question. Usually it's like,
Speaker 1: so who do you see starting? NFL insider Jimmy Jamerson,
Speaker 1: who do you see starting for the Broncos week one? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the question Vic Fangio is asking himself right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: who do I see starting? Big Fangio right now has
Speaker 1: a big question to answer. The goal is to not
Speaker 1: answer the question. Is that what it is for you
Speaker 1: basically just spit the question back at the person and
Speaker 1: then act like I just told you something right there. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I just told you right now. Okay, is
Speaker 1: this or that might happen? Okay, that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to decide right now. There's a lot of TV time
Speaker 1: that you got to eat up, and you just you
Speaker 1: need analysts who just keep talking. That's all. You don't
Speaker 1: have to say anything. It just it sounded like you
Speaker 1: said something right now. There is a big question market
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Colts, okay, right now? Yes, what are
Speaker 1: they going to do right now? Right now? There's a
Speaker 1: big question mark there. Okay, And that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out right now. What do you think Matt
Speaker 1: Naggy is gonna do with the quarterbacking situation with the Bears? Okay,
Speaker 1: Well he can go one or two ways with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gonna go one or two ways. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you start justin fields right now? Do you put
Speaker 1: him out there right now? I don't know. That's what
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out in Chicago right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: because Andy Dawton, is he the future? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but do you start him week one? That's what they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out right now in Chicago. All right.
Speaker 1: That's Jimmy Jimmerson, Jimmy Ers, Jimmy Jfferson, our NFL analyst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got a job offer from that one. We're
Speaker 1: gonna lose him. Pausing up the LinkedIn eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: join us. Coming up, we'll talk about the alliance. The
Speaker 1: new Big Ten ACC Pack twelve alliance became official yesterday.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what it means. It's it's official,
Speaker 1: but it feels unofficial. We know they agree on some
Speaker 1: vague stuff like academic principles. The big question is scheduling.
Speaker 1: What is the time frame for the scheduling? How many
Speaker 1: games will you play outside of your conference? How many
Speaker 1: games are you required to play in the ACC if
Speaker 1: you're a Big ten school or PAC twelve is going
Speaker 1: to play? How many Big ten schools when are they
Speaker 1: going to play these games? You know? The three commissioners
Speaker 1: say their main goal is to stabilize their conferences in
Speaker 1: a time of volatility. Oklahoma and Texas going to the
Speaker 1: SEC change the landscape. But it seems like they're trying
Speaker 1: to build a wall to stop the SEC from poaching
Speaker 1: even more programs. But there's nothing to stop the SEC
Speaker 1: from saying what I suggested yesterday. You could go in
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna take the PAC twelve. We're gonna
Speaker 1: take these schools. The SEC is moving to the West
Speaker 1: coast as well, have an East East SEC, East SEC West,
Speaker 1: a true west coast. And why wouldn't you do them?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not playing nice. You've already gone after
Speaker 1: Okloman Texas. But college football, the playoffs, as I told you,
Speaker 1: in fact you heard it first on this show that
Speaker 1: the Alliance would push back and try to get the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The expansion would be in twenty twenty six. That information
Speaker 1: came out yesterday. You know, there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: at play here, and they don't want ESPN to have
Speaker 1: control over the playoffs while having control over the SEC.
Speaker 1: You want to get more networks in their more revenue.
Speaker 1: The Alliance is very, very wary of ESPN. They have
Speaker 1: the exclusive rights to all SEC games that starts in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. They have full control of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They have the rights to the playoffs through twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: and then there's a negotiating window and there's a strong
Speaker 1: feeling that multiple networks will be broadcast the playoffs. That
Speaker 1: would be better for everybody involved. Here's the thing I
Speaker 1: don't understand. The Big ten makes a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Why is the Big ten doing this? You're already making money.
Speaker 1: You don't need to. The Big ten has money instability.
Speaker 1: The cross scheduling is not going to benefit them significantly.
Speaker 1: This is coming from a source this morning, just sent
Speaker 1: me a text. The money is second only to the
Speaker 1: SEC and will only continue to increase substantially. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: why is the Big ten doing this? And my source said, well,
Speaker 1: the new commissioners still doesn't know the landscape, didn't want
Speaker 1: to be left out. They establish a voting block, but
Speaker 1: giving their money in exchange for policies. Here big ten
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do this. ACC does, and so does
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve. Big ten doesn't. Yeah, Paul, it's hard.
Speaker 1: I really think of this alliancing, what it's going to
Speaker 1: be in three years. Doesn't it feel more like these
Speaker 1: three conferences are trying to calm everything down, semi agree
Speaker 1: not to jump to the SEC and stop all this
Speaker 1: poaching for the meantime, While they could all get together
Speaker 1: and put together a five year plan, it totally revamps
Speaker 1: college Foot's all. I'm guessing that has to be your philosophy.
Speaker 1: As you want to slow down the SEC. You want
Speaker 1: to make sure that there's not expansion without you having
Speaker 1: seats at the table here. And you know that it
Speaker 1: comes down to the scheduling, because you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play a certain number of games in the Big ten
Speaker 1: and the PAC twelve in the ACC and then when
Speaker 1: you go outside of your conference, how many games are
Speaker 1: you going to be able to play two? Like, what
Speaker 1: are you establishing there any kind of rivalry? I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult to do that over the
Speaker 1: next couple of years. And you just want to make
Speaker 1: sure that this doesn't become a money opoly. With the
Speaker 1: SEC and ESPN and you get other networks in there,
Speaker 1: there will be playoff expansion to twelve teams more than
Speaker 1: likely twelve schools, and I just think college football this
Speaker 1: is still moving. What happened yesterday doesn't mean anything right
Speaker 1: now to me because I don't know what it means
Speaker 1: to them, and I don't think they know either, these commissioners.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't let's just agree to agree. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody agree, Okay, let's shake hands. That's it. I don't
Speaker 1: know where we're going to be in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna guess that will have twelve team playoff.
Speaker 1: The Alliance will probably have a little bit across pollination,
Speaker 1: but that's about it. But if I'm in the SEC,
Speaker 1: why am I stopping with Texas and Oklahoma? And Notre
Speaker 1: Dame's going to stay on the outside looking in at
Speaker 1: least for the next five years. I mean, if I'm
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, I'm like, so I'm gonna I'm gonna step
Speaker 1: back here. We got our own network, We're good, we're
Speaker 1: still viable. Well, you know, we can play for a
Speaker 1: national championship. We're not gonna do anything right now. Notre
Speaker 1: Dame can play everybody if they want. Now, if I'm
Speaker 1: the Alliance, I have to look at this and go,
Speaker 1: do we want to include Notre Dame and schedule Notre Dame?
Speaker 1: Because that's taking away a game that you could be
Speaker 1: playing in another conference. These are it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: little bit tricky here, Yes, Ton, Do they really want
Speaker 1: us to think that this is about being creative or innovative.
Speaker 1: It's totally screams of fear and nothing less than afraid
Speaker 1: of what SEC of what the SEC did. They took
Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma. They may take one or more of
Speaker 1: these other conferences, and it's it's totally based on the timing,
Speaker 1: fear based reaction. Is that a comment or a question?
Speaker 1: It's a comment slash question. I want to know do
Speaker 1: you think it's any Do you think it's anything other
Speaker 1: than fear fear by these conferences because it happened just
Speaker 1: after the SEC grant Texas and Oklahoma. That's at these
Speaker 1: conferences are trying to figure out right now. Okay, they're
Speaker 1: looking at a very violatile landscape right now and they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out their future in this. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what this is about. That's our analyst, Jimmy Jimmers. Todd
Speaker 1: has a limerick on the alliance here, the conference alignment.
Speaker 1: Todd Fritz has a limerick. Todd, We're ready to go,
Speaker 1: and I'm excited to hear this. I am big ten,
Speaker 1: pack twelve, acc huddle up, worried? What about me? SEC
Speaker 1: takes care of itself and Rex the Big twelve? What's next?
Speaker 1: Who knows what might be? Okay, that's being okay with
Speaker 1: itself and twelve rhyming. Yeah, that was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a strap. Well, it's close enough. It works if
Speaker 1: you say it fast, but it's all done. Say just
Speaker 1: say it twelve and then you're fine itself. SEC takes
Speaker 1: care of itself and Rex the Big twelve. Yeah, thank you, Todd.
Speaker 1: But it is fear. I think it's totally a fear.
Speaker 1: Going back to the it's not innovative and they're afraid.
Speaker 1: Are you asking or telling? I'm asking? Okay, slash talking,
Speaker 1: I mean Eminem stretches words to make it. Yeah. Josh
Speaker 1: and Louisville, Hey Josh, what's on your mind this morning?
Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, congratulates, congratulation on the Halls and Dutch and
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah. I was wondering if you think the
Speaker 1: Alliance should be more proactive and partner with the NFL
Speaker 1: and lead the NCAA. The NFL can negotiate the TV deals.
Speaker 1: They're the best in the biz. They know how to
Speaker 1: pay and sponsor the players, and then it puts the
Speaker 1: SEC in a corner. Or the top talent may want
Speaker 1: to play for an NFL aligned team and then the
Speaker 1: SEC and then the NFL in return gets more revenues. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL wants to run college football,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's not a crazy idea. I think
Speaker 1: we're eventually headed towards the NFL model. The question is
Speaker 1: how do we get there, because that's where you have
Speaker 1: to start lopping off schools and saying no, you're not
Speaker 1: good enough to make it into the final thirty two
Speaker 1: schools or forty schools. But that is eventually going to happen.
Speaker 1: Let's see pole question, McLevin, what do you have for me? Okay,
Speaker 1: we had which philosophy do you subscribe to? If you
Speaker 1: have a bad offensive line, do you play the rookie
Speaker 1: and risk injury or do you play the veteran because
Speaker 1: it's okay if he gets hurt sixty six percent play
Speaker 1: the veteran. I would play Gardner Minshew if I'm the Jacks,
Speaker 1: because I would look at this as a decision that
Speaker 1: is going to affect us five years, seven, ten years
Speaker 1: down the road. I want Trevor Lawrence to be in
Speaker 1: there when he's got guys who can block form and this.
Speaker 1: You know, history is littered with quarterbacks who've gotten into
Speaker 1: situations because they are a high draft pick going to
Speaker 1: a bad team. And that bad team is a bad
Speaker 1: team for a reason. Starting with talent. You got Urban
Speaker 1: Meyer coming in different philosophy, Trevor Lawrence his style, and
Speaker 1: you got an offensive line that is not good, and
Speaker 1: you just lost your third down back and Travis hit
Speaker 1: the end. You're in a pretty good division. Tennessee Colts,
Speaker 1: they're good. I mean the Jags are going to be
Speaker 1: underdogs against the Texans. I think week one, I think
Speaker 1: the Texans are favored by three. Someone's got to win.
Speaker 1: But I mean that'll give you an idea. Jacksonville will
Speaker 1: probably be an underdog every game this year. And I
Speaker 1: think Gardner Minshew might give you a better chance to
Speaker 1: win right away because he has proven to be a
Speaker 1: good quarterback at times. But this isn't a good team.
Speaker 1: I don't want Trevor Lawrence out there right now. I'd
Speaker 1: fight the urge. Yeah, point the line right now. Jaguars, Texans.
Speaker 1: What o'clock? Oh my gosh, I got Jaguars minus three?
Speaker 1: Oh you do? That's what Trevor Lawrence has the penciled
Speaker 1: and starter according to Vegas. Okay, all right, is that
Speaker 1: game in Jacksonville? It doesn't matter it's in Is that
Speaker 1: Reliance Stadium in Texas? In RG Stadium? Okay? Should I
Speaker 1: remember from yesterday? Yeah? Okay, all right, Well then Jacksonville
Speaker 1: is maybe not going to be an underdog in every
Speaker 1: game this year most of them, but not too many.
Speaker 1: Payback game Jets Panthers Week one, Sam Darnold payback, that's saucy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to Jimmy Jimmerson or analyst. What do you
Speaker 1: expect to happen in that game? Jets and Carolina? Well,
Speaker 1: sources inside the organization right now telling me that the
Speaker 1: Jets are wondering who they're going to start at quarterback there.
Speaker 1: Do they go with Zach Wilson or do they go
Speaker 1: with whoever their backup is. That's what they're asking themselves
Speaker 1: right now. That's what they're trying to figure out this preseason,
Speaker 1: is who's going to start Week one? That sources within
Speaker 1: the organization are telling me that's their focus right now.
Speaker 1: Who's going to be their starting quarterback in Week one.
Speaker 1: That's Jimmy Jimmerson. Thank you for the insight, Jimmy, Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: by the way, you answered, the Jacks will be favorite
Speaker 1: in two games this year because as bad as they are, yeah,
Speaker 1: or the tech worst in the NFL. Oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: that's somehow they're gonna win three games somehow. You got
Speaker 1: a rookie coach that Deshaun Watson. Mess. It's not a
Speaker 1: good team. Oh, the Rams got a new running back.
Speaker 1: They they got Sony Michelle from the Patriots for a
Speaker 1: couple of mid round draft picks. Here. You know, they lost,
Speaker 1: they lost Acres and it's a huge loss for them.
Speaker 1: But Sony Michelle New England has a plethora that means
Speaker 1: a lot of running backs. Yeah. Can we talk later
Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick drafting skill position players. He's not good
Speaker 1: at that. No, he's finn Thank you, mclub. That was
Speaker 1: a bit of Jimmy Jimberson was why is Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: not good at drafting skill position players? Let's bringing Jimmy Jimmerson. Jimmy, Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at his track record right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is not great at drafting skill position players. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Jimmy, that's Jimmy Jimmers anytime. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I always like when they thank the analyst. It's their job,
Speaker 1: you know, well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: So you get after that. That's great stuff, great stuff,
Speaker 1: that is great stuff. Thank you, thank great, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you, thank you. Jimmy Jimmers, Jimmy Jimmers.
Speaker 1: That'd be great if the analyst goes. But you guys
Speaker 1: do pay me. I mean, I have to show up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like they made me do that. I
Speaker 1: can't say yes time and then that awkward delay thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on, and then they start talking. It's like anytime,
Speaker 1: Well they're already started talking about that next thing. Well,
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Speaker 1: Fowler again this year, and Herbie joins us on the program.
Speaker 1: Got Ohio State colors on there? Herbie, No, I got
Speaker 1: university dating colors? Oh okay, I like that. Do you
Speaker 1: have any amazing blue. Though I do, I do, I
Speaker 1: don't usually go with that shirt tie combo because I've
Speaker 1: been destroyed by by the lunatic fringe for wearing that,
Speaker 1: so I tend to even though I like that look,
Speaker 1: you know, but I just kind of put it on
Speaker 1: the back burner for a few decades. What's the toughest
Speaker 1: response you ever got to an outfit or something you said?
Speaker 1: I just I think it was even Jim Tressell um
Speaker 1: when I was doing a game and I always go
Speaker 1: down on the field before games, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: despite what fans may think about announcers, we don't always
Speaker 1: think about our shirt tie combo color with the teams
Speaker 1: we're covering. And Jim Trussell said, wow, like I can't
Speaker 1: believe you're wearing that, you know, And I was I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. And I looked down and
Speaker 1: I had a blue shirt with a yellow tie on,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, okay, mental note,
Speaker 1: never never wear this compo. I guess. So that was,
Speaker 1: you know, other than that fan like fam I worked
Speaker 1: with Brent Musburger for years and I'd got Ohio State
Speaker 1: fans will come up to me and be like I
Speaker 1: hate Musburger. I'll be like, why, oh, he loves Michigan.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he does. I've worked with him for eight years.
Speaker 1: I don't think he loves I think he likes the
Speaker 1: team that he bets on. I don't think he likes Michigan.
Speaker 1: And they're like, uh oh, he always one time he
Speaker 1: wore a blue coat and a yellow overcoat. I mean,
Speaker 1: he clearly loves Michigan. I'm like, he's the guy that
Speaker 1: said holy Buck guy on that fourth and one against Perdue,
Speaker 1: Like he he loves the game man, He's not. He's
Speaker 1: not in love with Michigan. But you know how fans are.
Speaker 1: And if somebody didn't see when Eminem came into the
Speaker 1: booth with you and Brent, how would how would you
Speaker 1: describe Eminem's mindset? It's an interesting question and people are
Speaker 1: not not familiar with that. Need to google google that.
Speaker 1: So he came in with his bodyguards, and he's very
Speaker 1: clear that the whole booth had to be emptied, so
Speaker 1: all the spotters, statisticians, everybody had to get out of
Speaker 1: the booth. It just had to be Brent and I
Speaker 1: in there by the time, or he wouldn't have come
Speaker 1: into the stude into the booth. So, you know, we
Speaker 1: cleared everybody out and he came in at a break
Speaker 1: could not have been any cooler. Came up. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's up here you doing? Man? Nice to meet you,
Speaker 1: mister Musburger. Wow, it's a great honor. Like he We're
Speaker 1: just sitting there hanging out. He put his headphones on
Speaker 1: and we were just talking, you know, just just just
Speaker 1: normal and then he goes, man, I hate live TV. Man,
Speaker 1: and I go, he kidded me, this is this is
Speaker 1: being easier and he goes, where's the camera And it's
Speaker 1: like one of the cameras in these booths. You've seen
Speaker 1: him the size of a coke can and they're just
Speaker 1: kind of hanging up at the top and I just
Speaker 1: kind of pointed to it and he goes, okay, cool
Speaker 1: right there. I go. Yeah, And all of a sudden
Speaker 1: three two one, we're back and Brent starts to talk
Speaker 1: and we go from like an over shot at the
Speaker 1: Big House and ann Arbor up to the booth, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I look over and he's turned
Speaker 1: into something I don't even know what he was. He's
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden like and friends like all
Speaker 1: right here he is em up here with us and
Speaker 1: Eminem just starting just like this, goes into this character
Speaker 1: for one of the songs, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: was just talking to him, like what happened? You know?
Speaker 1: And he stayed in that character for it felt like
Speaker 1: a minute, but it was probably fifteen seconds and then
Speaker 1: he kind of snapped out of it and started to
Speaker 1: do the interview. But man, it went. It went viral.
Speaker 1: It was everywhere, and I started to think about it
Speaker 1: because everywhere I went, people are like, dude, what's up
Speaker 1: with him? And him? You know here you are asking me.
Speaker 1: Years later, it was on the Today's show Good Morning America,
Speaker 1: I mean everywhere, and what a genius moved by him
Speaker 1: because he had a new album coming out and what
Speaker 1: better way to market that than to do that Frank
Speaker 1: and it got everybody talking. Wait, you think he did?
Speaker 1: You think he did that on purpose? Absolutely? Absolutely? I
Speaker 1: think he he went into that berserk character just to
Speaker 1: have some fun and to create people to be like,
Speaker 1: what was he high? What's wrong with Eminem? What was?
Speaker 1: And all that noise at least new made people know that, hey,
Speaker 1: he's got a new album coming out. That's what I
Speaker 1: think he did. I love that. Brent goes Marshall and
Speaker 1: then and then he called him Mathers. Mathers tell us
Speaker 1: about the Mathers tell us about the new album, because
Speaker 1: Brent is so up on his eminem you know, Mathers. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One time Brent said he read a promo. He goes, oh,
Speaker 1: don't forget next mondays it's the big show. He goes,
Speaker 1: it's Ussher and Beyonce will beyond Beyonce, ladies and gentlemen, Beyonce.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, Brent by Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes Herbie, Okay, I go listen. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: one name right, get Beyonce right. She's worth getting right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Herbie's got a new book out out of
Speaker 1: the pocket, Football Fatherhood and College Game Days. Saturday's toughest
Speaker 1: thing to write about in the book was what, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you know Gen Wojahovski, I was on I
Speaker 1: did this with him, and just the fact I had
Speaker 1: trust with him. I wanted, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's like for you as a kid growing up,
Speaker 1: but went through a lot of stuff. I kind of
Speaker 1: compartmentalized a lot of that emotionally. Um, as a kid,
Speaker 1: and I think just having to uncover that a little bit,
Speaker 1: going through you know, a lot of dysfunction in my
Speaker 1: background with my family, and probably talking candidly about that,
Speaker 1: kind of being vulnerable and being willing to talk about
Speaker 1: it and do a book. I'm a guy that just
Speaker 1: I'm kind of an introvert. I don't talk about my
Speaker 1: feelings very often with people, and so to kind of
Speaker 1: relive some of that stuff, this was definitely the toughest part.
Speaker 1: And I think throughout the entire book, I was very
Speaker 1: self deprecating, very honest with myself as a person and
Speaker 1: as an athlete, as a broadcaster, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to do a book, that's probably the
Speaker 1: only way you can do it. How important were sports
Speaker 1: given the dysfunction in your family? Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: think people that have, you know, their parents divorced, and
Speaker 1: you know my case, my parents weremarried and ended up
Speaker 1: getting a divorce. Again. I went to like eight schools
Speaker 1: in nine years, and I was a shy kid, and
Speaker 1: so you know, I think I think people either turned
Speaker 1: to anger and resentment, and a lot of cases they
Speaker 1: go to drugs, and and for me it was sports.
Speaker 1: I was so lucky, you know, I'd never had resentment
Speaker 1: towards my dad. My dad was my hero, and then
Speaker 1: he was kind of in and out of my life.
Speaker 1: I had more of an emptiness, like I wanted more
Speaker 1: of my dad. My dad was a good person. He
Speaker 1: just didn't get along with my mom when they got
Speaker 1: at the course, and it was nasty for really for
Speaker 1: the rest of their life for the most part, and
Speaker 1: so holidays and all that kind of stuff. The rest
Speaker 1: of our lives was difficult to manage. So my outlet
Speaker 1: was always sports, you know, watching sports, playing sports, my buddies,
Speaker 1: and sports were where I went to escape and just
Speaker 1: kind of lived in that world. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with the alliance. I know they agreed on
Speaker 1: the alliance herby, but I don't I don't know what
Speaker 1: it means. Help us understand if you don't know what
Speaker 1: it means. The only the only thing that I can
Speaker 1: think about is that they're trying to you know, they
Speaker 1: didn't sign a contract. They're talking about scheduling. Anytime, anytime
Speaker 1: somebody talks about student athletes, you know, you've got to
Speaker 1: be leary of what's going on here. So they're talking
Speaker 1: about we care about the student athletes. Well, then SEC,
Speaker 1: I think cares about the student athletes. And so I
Speaker 1: think it's about creating an alliance for any kind of vote.
Speaker 1: You know, if we're going to go to a twelve
Speaker 1: team playoff, the alliance in the corner over there is
Speaker 1: like they're whispering in each other's ear, looking across the
Speaker 1: room at Greg Sanky, like there's three of us. You
Speaker 1: might be big and powerful, but there's three of us.
Speaker 1: We get three votes, and they're talking about how they're
Speaker 1: going to vote. That's the only thing that I can
Speaker 1: think of is that they're aligned against the SEC at
Speaker 1: this point, that they can they can control things in
Speaker 1: that Remember it's a power five. It's power for now,
Speaker 1: it's a power five conferences and those three for the
Speaker 1: for all intensive purposes. If they're aligned, could control whatever
Speaker 1: decisions are made moving forward, if it continues to be
Speaker 1: by a vote with a unanimous vote is what you need.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the only thing that I can
Speaker 1: really think that that you know, they can talk about scheduling,
Speaker 1: and they can talk about you know, trying to be
Speaker 1: you know, the true model for student athletes and all that.
Speaker 1: But I think it's really more about trying to control
Speaker 1: power of voting moving forward. Don't you think headed towards
Speaker 1: the NFL model here Herby where there's thirty two forty
Speaker 1: schools and you have college football, will make the schedules,
Speaker 1: maybe the players get paid, um you know ESPN, Fox,
Speaker 1: they come in and they make the schedules for that
Speaker 1: that you just you basically have an NFL model in
Speaker 1: college football. I think we're getting closer and closer to that.
Speaker 1: I think that the game changer Dan was the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court ruling. They basically took the knees out of the
Speaker 1: NCUBA and Judge Cavanall not only with the ruling, he
Speaker 1: said basically, if you come back here again, we're gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot worse for you. And I
Speaker 1: think it made Mark Emmertt like a week seven to
Speaker 1: ten days later he came out publicly and basically said, well,
Speaker 1: after REP we're pretty much done. We're pulling back and
Speaker 1: we're gonna let the conferences govern things moving forward. So
Speaker 1: I think that's what got Oklahoma in Texas and these
Speaker 1: you know everything that these dominoes started the fall is
Speaker 1: everyone's looking at the future and trying to guess where
Speaker 1: is this thing going? And maybe what you're describing is
Speaker 1: where we're heading, you know. I mean, I'm an old
Speaker 1: school guy. I'm a traditionalist. I love college football and
Speaker 1: I love the pageantry of the sport. I hope we
Speaker 1: don't lose that. But the reality is this thing is
Speaker 1: out of control. We're at a crossroads with college football
Speaker 1: right now at the highest level, and we've got decision
Speaker 1: makers right now that aren't getting along, and they're the
Speaker 1: ones that are supposed to be leading together and they're not.
Speaker 1: And so this is nasty. It's not even close to
Speaker 1: being done. At some point we'll get to, you know,
Speaker 1: the worst that it has to offer, and then maybe
Speaker 1: the dustal settle we'll be able to move forward. But
Speaker 1: right now we're not close to that. I can't help
Speaker 1: but think of name, image and likeness. What happened to
Speaker 1: Ohio State and getting tattoos? Where so could they do
Speaker 1: that now? If somebody wanted to give one of their
Speaker 1: jerseys or whatever it might be, Hey, I got this
Speaker 1: a Rose Bowl and I'm going to barner that to
Speaker 1: get tattoos. I don't know. I don't know that my
Speaker 1: understanding name, image and likeness is you can use your name,
Speaker 1: image or likeness, or whether it's a you know, simple
Speaker 1: thing like tweeting something out for on behalf of a company,
Speaker 1: or you know, doing commercials for a local car dealer
Speaker 1: or pizza dealer or whatever it might be. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can barner to try to say, hey,
Speaker 1: here's here's a jersey that I wore in the Rose Bowl?
Speaker 1: Can I can I have a free tattoo? I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's this. This stuff is just too new
Speaker 1: for me to know if whether or not that is legit.
Speaker 1: And the same thing with Reggie Bush. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of people say, you know, this is unfair, Reggie
Speaker 1: Bush should be reinstated, And I'm thinking that was like,
Speaker 1: from what I remember about Reggie Bush, that was an
Speaker 1: agent that had a marketing team that provided money for
Speaker 1: his family. That's a different set of circumstances than if
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush did a commercial for somebody and got paid.
Speaker 1: That would be different, that would be allowed today. But
Speaker 1: like an agent paying you money is not cool, Like
Speaker 1: that still can't happen. Would you give Reggie Bush's heisman back? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is kind of silly. I
Speaker 1: mean Reggie Bush. I was asked the other day, who
Speaker 1: are the greatest college football players I've ever covered or
Speaker 1: ever seen, you know, since I've been doing this, And
Speaker 1: the first name that came to mind was Michael Vick
Speaker 1: just because of people forget people maybe remember him as
Speaker 1: a as a pro and some of the stuff he
Speaker 1: got into. I remember him playing at Lane Stadium, you know,
Speaker 1: for Jennie Chack and doing things that I didn't know
Speaker 1: you were allowed to do as a quarterback. It was
Speaker 1: just unheard of to see that in person. And then
Speaker 1: the other guys, Reggie Bush, I mean Reggie Bush from
Speaker 1: the very first time I saw him carry the ball
Speaker 1: as a young player. You know, he would jump in
Speaker 1: the air and land and hit the ground like if
Speaker 1: you're playing a video game and you had a turbo button,
Speaker 1: like he would hit go in the air, land and
Speaker 1: somehow hit his button when he landed. Him just be
Speaker 1: gone and just spectacular. So I hate that he got
Speaker 1: caught up and whatever it was he got caught up in,
Speaker 1: But to me, I would I would definitely provide him
Speaker 1: with his heisman and he should be around USC football
Speaker 1: as often as he can be around. How surprised were
Speaker 1: you that urban Meyer decided to coach again and coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well, I was surprised, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I think the you know, watching him on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: You remember when Ohio State was playing in his last year,
Speaker 1: and how many times do we see him like holding
Speaker 1: his head and taking a knee and like it almost
Speaker 1: looked like he was getting dizzy. Um, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I thought, man, this might be, this might be it
Speaker 1: for him, And I don't know what happened. I've been
Speaker 1: spoken with him about why now, about his health, and
Speaker 1: I know that he's always had a calling to want
Speaker 1: to get back in but um, he must feel as
Speaker 1: far as his doctors with that cyst must be Okay.
Speaker 1: I watched him the other night and he looks still.
Speaker 1: You know, he can't help it. He's so competitive. He's
Speaker 1: not like a coach like Tom Landry that just kind
Speaker 1: of sits there and watches the game. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's like blood is boiling on the sidelines is And
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long year, you know with Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to learn to somehow let those
Speaker 1: emotions to the side because that offensive line is going
Speaker 1: to allow some hits on his franchise quarterback this year.
Speaker 1: Give me a sneaky team not in the top ten
Speaker 1: that could be in the final four at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Well, the one I'll give you this
Speaker 1: first in the top ten is Cincinnati. And how do
Speaker 1: you How do you get into the playoff because we've
Speaker 1: not seen that if you're a group of five team.
Speaker 1: Boise State used to flirt with the BCFS because they
Speaker 1: would have a Virginia Tech who was a top ten opponent.
Speaker 1: They'd have a Georgia who is a top ten opponent,
Speaker 1: and they would win those games and they would have
Speaker 1: a shot at the end to try to get in there.
Speaker 1: I think with Indiana or with Cincinnati. They play at Indiana,
Speaker 1: who's a top fifteen team this year, and they play
Speaker 1: in South Bend. Those are non conference games for Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Remember how they played against Georgia and the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 1: They really outplayed Georgia. They just couldn't close the deal
Speaker 1: and they lost the game, but they were really competitive.
Speaker 1: I think they scored some points there as far as respect.
Speaker 1: So Cincinnati is a team that I think could actually
Speaker 1: break into the top four if in fact they win
Speaker 1: against Indiana and Notre Dame on the road. Then they'd
Speaker 1: have to win the American Outside of that, I would
Speaker 1: say I would give you let's say Wisconsin could be
Speaker 1: maybe a surprise team. They had a down year a
Speaker 1: year ago. They seemed to be a team that could
Speaker 1: be on the bounce. I think the winner actually the
Speaker 1: Penn State Wisconsin game they opened up, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's a tough opener in college football. Whoever wins that
Speaker 1: game I think could bounce and have a legitimate shot
Speaker 1: to get it up into the top ten pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Good luck with the book, and we'll be watching the
Speaker 1: opening opening night. It'll be Georgia versus Clemson, and that'll
Speaker 1: be the Duke's Mayo Classic. September the fourth there on ABC. Hey,
Speaker 1: great again, Herbie, thank you, buddy. All right, matters, thank you, Herbie.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll come back and we'll get to your
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. I still if you google that
Speaker 1: when Eminem is in the booth, his eyes are so big,
Speaker 1: and I because you're watching it, you're going, what is
Speaker 1: he doing? Like he's he's contorting his body and and
Speaker 1: you know, here's Herbie had just talked to him and
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, everything's good, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden and three two one, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he starts looking at the camera's eyes are
Speaker 1: really big. And then Brent, who probably knows very little,
Speaker 1: maybe nothing about Eminem other than his name is Eminem
Speaker 1: and he called him Marshall and matters matters. How about
Speaker 1: how about that new album Matters? Oh man, is it priceless?
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Speaker 1: get your podcast, get some phone calls in here. Charlie Watts,
Speaker 1: the longtime drummer for the Rolling Stones, passed away yesterday.
Speaker 1: Having had the opportunity to go to a few Rolling
Speaker 1: Stones concerts, I think my first one was back in
Speaker 1: in the early seventies, and Charlie always it always felt
Speaker 1: like Charlie was a jazz musician. He was a jazz
Speaker 1: drummer playing in the greatest rock and roll band. And
Speaker 1: you know, you had Jagger who was front and center,
Speaker 1: and you know, Keith was had flair with the way
Speaker 1: he played. Ronnie Wood was a great guitar player still is.
Speaker 1: Bill Wyman was the bass player. But Charlie always gave
Speaker 1: you that cool feel that he never he was never
Speaker 1: anything more, any never anything less. He was just like
Speaker 1: he plugged in to be Charlie Watts. And they were
Speaker 1: going to go back on tour and Charlie wasn't able to.
Speaker 1: That was the first time i'd heard about, you know,
Speaker 1: some health issues with him. But passed away at the
Speaker 1: age of eighty. And when you talked to drummers and
Speaker 1: they'll tell you, they'll go, oh my god, you know
Speaker 1: what he was so good at, like Ringos are is
Speaker 1: very underrated. Fellow drummers will talk about, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know he created like that Tom Tom like they'll
Speaker 1: just give you all this verbiage, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, Because you listen to the Beatles, you're not
Speaker 1: listening for Ringo and Charlie Watts. You're not listening for
Speaker 1: Charlie Watts. But if you listen for him, then you
Speaker 1: hear what makes him or made him unique. Yes, he
Speaker 1: and Keith Richards's autobiography. He talks about when they were
Speaker 1: starting the band and they were like Charlie Watts was
Speaker 1: the guy. He was the most important piece, Like we
Speaker 1: had to have him or the band would have never worked.
Speaker 1: I just watched a documentary on Brian Jones, and Brian
Speaker 1: Jones is given credit for starting the Rolling Stones. He
Speaker 1: died at the age of twenty seven with a drowning,
Speaker 1: although in the documentary you realize maybe somebody drowned Brian
Speaker 1: Jones at the age of twenty seven, but you just
Speaker 1: you never when you think about The Stones. You know
Speaker 1: very very little about Charlie Watts. You know a whole
Speaker 1: about Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. You never heard anything
Speaker 1: from Charlie, but to have an ego, we all have
Speaker 1: an ego, but not have to be out in front,
Speaker 1: not have to say anything. Very quiet, very reserved. I
Speaker 1: don't remember ever hearing him talk other than it was
Speaker 1: a documentary on the Rolling Stones, and there would be
Speaker 1: just like little clips like he would he'd be the
Speaker 1: third guy or fourth guy in and he would just
Speaker 1: say something and then he would crack up the rest
Speaker 1: of the band. Yeah. There's another story that Keith Richards
Speaker 1: tells about Charlie Watts that Keith and Mick went out
Speaker 1: drinking one day and they came back by like five o'clock.
Speaker 1: They were wasted, right, and Mick calls Charlie Watson says,
Speaker 1: where's my drummer, and like okay, hangs up and Charlie
Speaker 1: Watts isn't coming out. End like five minutes later, there
Speaker 1: was a knock on the door and they opened the
Speaker 1: door and he's there, like you could smell the cologne.
Speaker 1: He's got his hair perfect, he's in a suit or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he walks up to Mick and punches him in
Speaker 1: the face and said, don't ever call me your drummer again. Okay,
Speaker 1: setting the tone. I don't ever call me your drummer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was watching a video yesterday and he was an
Speaker 1: early MTV era, I think, like Start Me Up and
Speaker 1: Mick Jaggers dancing around and Keith Richards has a cigarette
Speaker 1: and his guitar neck and then they were they cut
Speaker 1: to each band member, they cut, cut, cut, and every
Speaker 1: time they cut to Charlie Watts, it looks like he's
Speaker 1: playing for like an orchestra in a library or something.
Speaker 1: His facial demeanor and his body is there's barely any movement.
Speaker 1: And because you can see drummers and drummers can be animated.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's not Tommy Lee, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: He was just always like he was in a jazz
Speaker 1: club while in front of fifty thousand fans, you know,
Speaker 1: as the drummer for the greatest rock and roll them.
Speaker 1: So Charlie wants Elliot in Maryland. Elliot's been on hold
Speaker 1: for a while, but he's been on hold for a
Speaker 1: while because he's an Oriole fan waiting for a victory.
Speaker 1: So Elliott, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Hof,
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Danette, good morning eight five. Thank you. Yes,
Speaker 1: I am a long time, long suffering Orioles fan thirty
Speaker 1: four years alive and ten winning seasons to show for it. Um.
Speaker 1: Going to see the game tonight, mostly to see Otani
Speaker 1: pitch um, but also want to talk about you know,
Speaker 1: are they tanking or are they just bad? I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt Harvey is their win leader and he has any
Speaker 1: area over six um. They weren't even expected to win
Speaker 1: this year. They got Mike Alias too, they brought over
Speaker 1: as a GM from the Astros. And speaking of drummers, uh,
Speaker 1: they don't have any of those in the organization. And
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta look at the top down. But
Speaker 1: you know, they just got ranked as the number one
Speaker 1: farm system in baseball as of yesterday. Not really seeing
Speaker 1: that on the field right now, and it's it is
Speaker 1: embarrassing to watch. You know, you can't blame the manager
Speaker 1: for everything, but you know, they don't they don't play hard.
Speaker 1: They're not fun to watch, and most people come to
Speaker 1: see the opposing teams right now, all right, we'll have
Speaker 1: fun tonight, Elliott watching Shohyotani pitch Yammy Clement. You can't
Speaker 1: really tank in baseball, can you? Yeah, teams have to
Speaker 1: get a number one page, you know, like fans don't
Speaker 1: know much about the MLB draft. You have a fire
Speaker 1: swo like the Cubs are tanking again. They tanked before
Speaker 1: to win a World Series. The Marlins would famously have
Speaker 1: a five year plan and then after the five years
Speaker 1: then they would take the wrecking ball to it. They
Speaker 1: got two World Series out of it. Teams do, but
Speaker 1: you have to be good after that. Like if you
Speaker 1: tank now, how are you spending your money? Who are
Speaker 1: your draft picks? Who's going to join you? Who can
Speaker 1: you trade for it? Like you have to. You have
Speaker 1: to have smart people even when you're tanking. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Orioles have them. Final Hour coming up,
Speaker 1: we'll get some more phone calls. Eight seven seven three
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