WEBVTT - 08/25/21 DPS Hour 2 Kirk Herbstreit

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Hour two on this Wednesday, Dana, The Dana

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<v Speaker 1>and Stan Patrick Show. Seaton's been working on an impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's got a couple of him that he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzie has a couple of impressions. Paulie does a great

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Luck impression. Oh, thank you. Fritzie does Marge Simpson. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back from Braake. Mike Tyson, the greatest, the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. No one could beat me a law.

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<v Speaker 1>You forgot the laugh? Thank you. Never forget the love

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<v Speaker 1>of Adam Sandler. Oh, he's gonna be a great show.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm going to talk to Herbie mcclvin. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>do any impressions except for my spot on British accent. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hell Governor, clean your chimney, man, that's incredible. H Seton

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<v Speaker 1>does bred Farve. Of course, that's it, that's his bred Farv. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still be playing, of course, and do another one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I kind of do them and then forget

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<v Speaker 1>about them. I do them in the moment. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>other one in? McLevin? Remember Backham for years and oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll hit yeah, here's are very query quick, very very quick.

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<v Speaker 1>You keep them tight. Okay, But Seton's been working on

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<v Speaker 1>another one because this time of the year, we spend

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<v Speaker 1>way too much time analyzing what's going to happen this

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming season, and sometimes the analyst really doesn't have anything

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<v Speaker 1>to add. It turns out you can make a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money not adding anything. Yea stories, So Seaton's been

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<v Speaker 1>working on his NFL analysts impersonation. How about I say,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's bring in Seaton O'Connor. Let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots situation here at quarterback Bill Belichick. Okay, has a

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<v Speaker 1>big decision to make right now. Okay, do you start

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Newton week one? Or do you go with your

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick Mac Jones. That's the question the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots are asking themselves right now. See, it didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>add anything, No, but you did talk for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, because it's a very pointed question. Usually it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>so who do you see starting? NFL insider Jimmy Jamerson,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you see starting for the Broncos week one? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the question Vic Fangio is asking himself right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who do I see starting? Big Fangio right now has

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<v Speaker 1>a big question to answer. The goal is to not

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question. Is that what it is for you

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<v Speaker 1>basically just spit the question back at the person and

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<v Speaker 1>then act like I just told you something right there. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I just told you right now. Okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>this or that might happen? Okay, that's what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to decide right now. There's a lot of TV time

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<v Speaker 1>that you got to eat up, and you just you

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<v Speaker 1>need analysts who just keep talking. That's all. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to say anything. It just it sounded like you

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<v Speaker 1>said something right now. There is a big question market

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Colts, okay, right now? Yes, what are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to do right now? Right now? There's a

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<v Speaker 1>big question mark there. Okay, And that's what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out right now. What do you think Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Naggy is gonna do with the quarterbacking situation with the Bears? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Well he can go one or two ways with that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna go one or two ways. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you start justin fields right now? Do you put

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<v Speaker 1>him out there right now? I don't know. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to figure out in Chicago right now. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because Andy Dawton, is he the future? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but do you start him week one? That's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out right now in Chicago. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Jimmy Jimmerson, Jimmy Ers, Jimmy Jfferson, our NFL analyst. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just got a job offer from that one. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose him. Pausing up the LinkedIn eight seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>three D P show email address DP of Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>join us. Coming up, we'll talk about the alliance. The

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<v Speaker 1>new Big Ten ACC Pack twelve alliance became official yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what it means. It's it's official,

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<v Speaker 1>but it feels unofficial. We know they agree on some

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<v Speaker 1>vague stuff like academic principles. The big question is scheduling.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the time frame for the scheduling? How many

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<v Speaker 1>games will you play outside of your conference? How many

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<v Speaker 1>games are you required to play in the ACC if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Big ten school or PAC twelve is going

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<v Speaker 1>to play? How many Big ten schools when are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to play these games? You know? The three commissioners

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<v Speaker 1>say their main goal is to stabilize their conferences in

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<v Speaker 1>a time of volatility. Oklahoma and Texas going to the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC change the landscape. But it seems like they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to build a wall to stop the SEC from poaching

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<v Speaker 1>even more programs. But there's nothing to stop the SEC

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<v Speaker 1>from saying what I suggested yesterday. You could go in

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<v Speaker 1>and say we're gonna take the PAC twelve. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take these schools. The SEC is moving to the West

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<v Speaker 1>coast as well, have an East East SEC, East SEC West,

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<v Speaker 1>a true west coast. And why wouldn't you do them?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not playing nice. You've already gone after

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<v Speaker 1>Okloman Texas. But college football, the playoffs, as I told you,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact you heard it first on this show that

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<v Speaker 1>the Alliance would push back and try to get the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>The expansion would be in twenty twenty six. That information

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<v Speaker 1>came out yesterday. You know, there's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>at play here, and they don't want ESPN to have

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<v Speaker 1>control over the playoffs while having control over the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to get more networks in their more revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>The Alliance is very, very wary of ESPN. They have

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<v Speaker 1>the exclusive rights to all SEC games that starts in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. They have full control of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the rights to the playoffs through twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a negotiating window and there's a strong

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that multiple networks will be broadcast the playoffs. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be better for everybody involved. Here's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand. The Big ten makes a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the Big ten doing this? You're already making money.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to. The Big ten has money instability.

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<v Speaker 1>The cross scheduling is not going to benefit them significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is coming from a source this morning, just sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a text. The money is second only to the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and will only continue to increase substantially. And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why is the Big ten doing this? And my source said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the new commissioners still doesn't know the landscape, didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be left out. They establish a voting block, but

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<v Speaker 1>giving their money in exchange for policies. Here big ten

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to do this. ACC does, and so does

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<v Speaker 1>the PAC twelve. Big ten doesn't. Yeah, Paul, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I really think of this alliancing, what it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in three years. Doesn't it feel more like these

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<v Speaker 1>three conferences are trying to calm everything down, semi agree

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<v Speaker 1>not to jump to the SEC and stop all this

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<v Speaker 1>poaching for the meantime, While they could all get together

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<v Speaker 1>and put together a five year plan, it totally revamps

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<v Speaker 1>college Foot's all. I'm guessing that has to be your philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>As you want to slow down the SEC. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that there's not expansion without you having

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<v Speaker 1>seats at the table here. And you know that it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the scheduling, because you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>play a certain number of games in the Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>and the PAC twelve in the ACC and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you go outside of your conference, how many games are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be able to play two? Like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you establishing there any kind of rivalry? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be difficult to do that over the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of years. And you just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that this doesn't become a money opoly. With the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and ESPN and you get other networks in there,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be playoff expansion to twelve teams more than

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<v Speaker 1>likely twelve schools, and I just think college football this

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<v Speaker 1>is still moving. What happened yesterday doesn't mean anything right

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<v Speaker 1>now to me because I don't know what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and I don't think they know either, these commissioners.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't let's just agree to agree. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody agree, Okay, let's shake hands. That's it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where we're going to be in twenty twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna guess that will have twelve team playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>The Alliance will probably have a little bit across pollination,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's about it. But if I'm in the SEC,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I stopping with Texas and Oklahoma? And Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame's going to stay on the outside looking in at

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<v Speaker 1>least for the next five years. I mean, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame, I'm like, so I'm gonna I'm gonna step

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<v Speaker 1>back here. We got our own network, We're good, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still viable. Well, you know, we can play for a

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<v Speaker 1>national championship. We're not gonna do anything right now. Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame can play everybody if they want. Now, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the Alliance, I have to look at this and go,

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to include Notre Dame and schedule Notre Dame?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's taking away a game that you could be

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<v Speaker 1>playing in another conference. These are it's it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit tricky here, Yes, Ton, Do they really want

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<v Speaker 1>us to think that this is about being creative or innovative.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally screams of fear and nothing less than afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of what SEC of what the SEC did. They took

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and Oklahoma. They may take one or more of

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<v Speaker 1>these other conferences, and it's it's totally based on the timing,

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<v Speaker 1>fear based reaction. Is that a comment or a question?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a comment slash question. I want to know do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's any Do you think it's anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than fear fear by these conferences because it happened just

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<v Speaker 1>after the SEC grant Texas and Oklahoma. That's at these

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<v Speaker 1>conferences are trying to figure out right now. Okay, they're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a very violatile landscape right now and they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out their future in this. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what this is about. That's our analyst, Jimmy Jimmers. Todd

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<v Speaker 1>has a limerick on the alliance here, the conference alignment.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Fritz has a limerick. Todd, We're ready to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm excited to hear this. I am big ten,

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<v Speaker 1>pack twelve, acc huddle up, worried? What about me? SEC

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<v Speaker 1>takes care of itself and Rex the Big twelve? What's next?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what might be? Okay, that's being okay with

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<v Speaker 1>itself and twelve rhyming. Yeah, that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a strap. Well, it's close enough. It works if

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<v Speaker 1>you say it fast, but it's all done. Say just

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<v Speaker 1>say it twelve and then you're fine itself. SEC takes

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<v Speaker 1>care of itself and Rex the Big twelve. Yeah, thank you, Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is fear. I think it's totally a fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to the it's not innovative and they're afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you asking or telling? I'm asking? Okay, slash talking,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Eminem stretches words to make it. Yeah. Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and Louisville, Hey Josh, what's on your mind this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Dan, congratulates, congratulation on the Halls and Dutch and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Yeah. I was wondering if you think the

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<v Speaker 1>Alliance should be more proactive and partner with the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>and lead the NCAA. The NFL can negotiate the TV deals.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the best in the biz. They know how to

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<v Speaker 1>pay and sponsor the players, and then it puts the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC in a corner. Or the top talent may want

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<v Speaker 1>to play for an NFL aligned team and then the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC and then the NFL in return gets more revenues. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the NFL wants to run college football,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean it's not a crazy idea. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're eventually headed towards the NFL model. The question is

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<v Speaker 1>how do we get there, because that's where you have

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<v Speaker 1>to start lopping off schools and saying no, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to make it into the final thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>schools or forty schools. But that is eventually going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see pole question, McLevin, what do you have for me? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we had which philosophy do you subscribe to? If you

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad offensive line, do you play the rookie

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<v Speaker 1>and risk injury or do you play the veteran because

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay if he gets hurt sixty six percent play

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<v Speaker 1>the veteran. I would play Gardner Minshew if I'm the Jacks,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would look at this as a decision that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to affect us five years, seven, ten years

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. I want Trevor Lawrence to be in

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<v Speaker 1>there when he's got guys who can block form and this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, history is littered with quarterbacks who've gotten into

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<v Speaker 1>situations because they are a high draft pick going to

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<v Speaker 1>a bad team. And that bad team is a bad

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<v Speaker 1>team for a reason. Starting with talent. You got Urban

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer coming in different philosophy, Trevor Lawrence his style, and

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<v Speaker 1>you got an offensive line that is not good, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just lost your third down back and Travis hit

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<v Speaker 1>the end. You're in a pretty good division. Tennessee Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>they're good. I mean the Jags are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>underdogs against the Texans. I think week one, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans are favored by three. Someone's got to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean that'll give you an idea. Jacksonville will

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<v Speaker 1>probably be an underdog every game this year. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Gardner Minshew might give you a better chance to

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<v Speaker 1>win right away because he has proven to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good quarterback at times. But this isn't a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want Trevor Lawrence out there right now. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>fight the urge. Yeah, point the line right now. Jaguars, Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>What o'clock? Oh my gosh, I got Jaguars minus three?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do? That's what Trevor Lawrence has the penciled

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<v Speaker 1>and starter according to Vegas. Okay, all right, is that

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<v Speaker 1>game in Jacksonville? It doesn't matter it's in Is that

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<v Speaker 1>Reliance Stadium in Texas? In RG Stadium? Okay? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>remember from yesterday? Yeah? Okay, all right, Well then Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe not going to be an underdog in every

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<v Speaker 1>game this year most of them, but not too many.

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<v Speaker 1>Payback game Jets Panthers Week one, Sam Darnold payback, that's saucy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to Jimmy Jimmerson or analyst. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>expect to happen in that game? Jets and Carolina? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sources inside the organization right now telling me that the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets are wondering who they're going to start at quarterback there.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they go with Zach Wilson or do they go

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<v Speaker 1>with whoever their backup is. That's what they're asking themselves

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<v Speaker 1>right now. That's what they're trying to figure out this preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>is who's going to start Week one? That sources within

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<v Speaker 1>the organization are telling me that's their focus right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going to be their starting quarterback in Week one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Jimmy Jimmerson. Thank you for the insight, Jimmy, Yeah, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you answered, the Jacks will be favorite

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<v Speaker 1>in two games this year because as bad as they are, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or the tech worst in the NFL. Oh yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's somehow they're gonna win three games somehow. You got

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie coach that Deshaun Watson. Mess. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>good team. Oh, the Rams got a new running back.

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<v Speaker 1>They they got Sony Michelle from the Patriots for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of mid round draft picks. Here. You know, they lost,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost Acres and it's a huge loss for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sony Michelle New England has a plethora that means

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of running backs. Yeah. Can we talk later

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<v Speaker 1>about Bill Belichick drafting skill position players. He's not good

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<v Speaker 1>at that. No, he's finn Thank you, mclub. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of Jimmy Jimberson was why is Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>not good at drafting skill position players? Let's bringing Jimmy Jimmerson. Jimmy, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at his track record right now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick is not great at drafting skill position players. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Jimmy, that's Jimmy Jimmers anytime. Yeah, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like when they thank the analyst. It's their job,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, well, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get after that. That's great stuff, great stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>that is great stuff. Thank you, thank great, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for joining us. Thank you, thank you. Jimmy Jimmers, Jimmy Jimmers.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be great if the analyst goes. But you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do pay me. I mean, I have to show up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like they made me do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't say yes time and then that awkward delay thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on, and then they start talking. It's like anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>Well they're already started talking about that next thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>sal Palantonio, don't say anything to me after that. Salth

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<v Speaker 1>Palantonio joining us from Philadelphia, thank you. So that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>Got Ohio State colors on there? Herbie, No, I got

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<v Speaker 1>university dating colors? Oh okay, I like that. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any amazing blue. Though I do, I do, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't usually go with that shirt tie combo because I've

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<v Speaker 1>been destroyed by by the lunatic fringe for wearing that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I tend to even though I like that look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I just kind of put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the back burner for a few decades. What's the toughest

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<v Speaker 1>response you ever got to an outfit or something you said?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I think it was even Jim Tressell um

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<v Speaker 1>when I was doing a game and I always go

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<v Speaker 1>down on the field before games, and I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>despite what fans may think about announcers, we don't always

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<v Speaker 1>think about our shirt tie combo color with the teams

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<v Speaker 1>we're covering. And Jim Trussell said, wow, like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you're wearing that, you know, And I was I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about it. And I looked down and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a blue shirt with a yellow tie on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I was like, okay, mental note,

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<v Speaker 1>never never wear this compo. I guess. So that was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other than that fan like fam I worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Brent Musburger for years and I'd got Ohio State

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<v Speaker 1>fans will come up to me and be like I

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<v Speaker 1>hate Musburger. I'll be like, why, oh, he loves Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, he does. I've worked with him for eight years.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he loves I think he likes the

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<v Speaker 1>team that he bets on. I don't think he likes Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, uh oh, he always one time he

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<v Speaker 1>wore a blue coat and a yellow overcoat. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he clearly loves Michigan. I'm like, he's the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>said holy Buck guy on that fourth and one against Perdue,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he he loves the game man, He's not. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not in love with Michigan. But you know how fans are.

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<v Speaker 1>And if somebody didn't see when Eminem came into the

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<v Speaker 1>booth with you and Brent, how would how would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe Eminem's mindset? It's an interesting question and people are

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<v Speaker 1>not not familiar with that. Need to google google that.

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<v Speaker 1>So he came in with his bodyguards, and he's very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the whole booth had to be emptied, so

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<v Speaker 1>all the spotters, statisticians, everybody had to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the booth. It just had to be Brent and I

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<v Speaker 1>in there by the time, or he wouldn't have come

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<v Speaker 1>into the stude into the booth. So, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>cleared everybody out and he came in at a break

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<v Speaker 1>could not have been any cooler. Came up. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up here you doing? Man? Nice to meet you,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Musburger. Wow, it's a great honor. Like he We're

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting there hanging out. He put his headphones on

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<v Speaker 1>and we were just talking, you know, just just just

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<v Speaker 1>normal and then he goes, man, I hate live TV. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, he kidded me, this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>being easier and he goes, where's the camera And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the cameras in these booths. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him the size of a coke can and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hanging up at the top and I just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pointed to it and he goes, okay, cool

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<v Speaker 1>right there. I go. Yeah, And all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>three two one, we're back and Brent starts to talk

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<v Speaker 1>and we go from like an over shot at the

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<v Speaker 1>Big House and ann Arbor up to the booth, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I look over and he's turned

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<v Speaker 1>into something I don't even know what he was. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just all of a sudden like and friends like all

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<v Speaker 1>right here he is em up here with us and

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<v Speaker 1>Eminem just starting just like this, goes into this character

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<v Speaker 1>for one of the songs, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just talking to him, like what happened? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>And he stayed in that character for it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but it was probably fifteen seconds and then

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of snapped out of it and started to

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<v Speaker 1>do the interview. But man, it went. It went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>It was everywhere, and I started to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>because everywhere I went, people are like, dude, what's up

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<v Speaker 1>with him? And him? You know here you are asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, it was on the Today's show Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everywhere, and what a genius moved by him

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<v Speaker 1>because he had a new album coming out and what

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<v Speaker 1>better way to market that than to do that Frank

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<v Speaker 1>and it got everybody talking. Wait, you think he did?

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<v Speaker 1>You think he did that on purpose? Absolutely? Absolutely? I

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<v Speaker 1>think he he went into that berserk character just to

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<v Speaker 1>have some fun and to create people to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>what was he high? What's wrong with Eminem? What was?

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<v Speaker 1>And all that noise at least new made people know that, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a new album coming out. That's what I

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<v Speaker 1>think he did. I love that. Brent goes Marshall and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then he called him Mathers. Mathers tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about the Mathers tell us about the new album, because

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<v Speaker 1>Brent is so up on his eminem you know, Mathers. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One time Brent said he read a promo. He goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget next mondays it's the big show. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Ussher and Beyonce will beyond Beyonce, ladies and gentlemen, Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I was like, Brent by Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes Herbie, Okay, I go listen. I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>one name right, get Beyonce right. She's worth getting right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Herbie's got a new book out out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, Football Fatherhood and College Game Days. Saturday's toughest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to write about in the book was what, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know Gen Wojahovski, I was on I

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<v Speaker 1>did this with him, and just the fact I had

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<v Speaker 1>trust with him. I wanted, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like for you as a kid growing up,

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<v Speaker 1>but went through a lot of stuff. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>compartmentalized a lot of that emotionally. Um, as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think just having to uncover that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>going through you know, a lot of dysfunction in my

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<v Speaker 1>background with my family, and probably talking candidly about that,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of being vulnerable and being willing to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it and do a book. I'm a guy that just

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of an introvert. I don't talk about my

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<v Speaker 1>feelings very often with people, and so to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relive some of that stuff, this was definitely the toughest part.

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think throughout the entire book, I was very

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>self deprecating, very honest with myself as a person and

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 1>as an athlete, as a broadcaster, and I think, you know,

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to do a book, that's probably the

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>only way you can do it. How important were sports

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>given the dysfunction in your family? Well, you know, I

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 1>think people that have, you know, their parents divorced, and

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>you know my case, my parents weremarried and ended up

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>getting a divorce. Again. I went to like eight schools

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>in nine years, and I was a shy kid, and

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I think I think people either turned

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>to anger and resentment, and a lot of cases they

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 1>go to drugs, and and for me it was sports.

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I was so lucky, you know, I'd never had resentment

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>towards my dad. My dad was my hero, and then

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he was kind of in and out of my life.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I had more of an emptiness, like I wanted more

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of my dad. My dad was a good person. He

0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just didn't get along with my mom when they got

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>at the course, and it was nasty for really for

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.239
<v Speaker 1>the rest of their life for the most part, and

0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>so holidays and all that kind of stuff. The rest

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>of our lives was difficult to manage. So my outlet

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was always sports, you know, watching sports, playing sports, my buddies,

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>and sports were where I went to escape and just

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of lived in that world. I don't know what's

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>going on with the alliance. I know they agreed on

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 1>the alliance herby, but I don't I don't know what

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>it means. Help us understand if you don't know what

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>it means. The only the only thing that I can

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>think about is that they're trying to you know, they

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't sign a contract. They're talking about scheduling. Anytime, anytime

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody talks about student athletes, you know, you've got to

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>be leary of what's going on here. So they're talking

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>about we care about the student athletes. Well, then SEC,

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think cares about the student athletes. And so I

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>think it's about creating an alliance for any kind of vote.

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, if we're going to go to a twelve

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>team playoff, the alliance in the corner over there is

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>like they're whispering in each other's ear, looking across the

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>room at Greg Sanky, like there's three of us. You

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.679
<v Speaker 1>might be big and powerful, but there's three of us.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>We get three votes, and they're talking about how they're

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>going to vote. That's the only thing that I can

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>think of is that they're aligned against the SEC at

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>this point, that they can they can control things in

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>that Remember it's a power five. It's power for now,

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>it's a power five conferences and those three for the

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>for all intensive purposes. If they're aligned, could control whatever

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>decisions are made moving forward, if it continues to be

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>by a vote with a unanimous vote is what you need.

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the only thing that I can

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>really think that that you know, they can talk about scheduling,

0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and they can talk about you know, trying to be

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, the true model for student athletes and all that.

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's really more about trying to control

0:27:56.880 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 1>power of voting moving forward. Don't you think headed towards

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>the NFL model here Herby where there's thirty two forty

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>schools and you have college football, will make the schedules,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe the players get paid, um you know ESPN, Fox,

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they come in and they make the schedules for that

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that you just you basically have an NFL model in

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>college football. I think we're getting closer and closer to that.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that the game changer Dan was the Supreme

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>Court ruling. They basically took the knees out of the

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>NCUBA and Judge Cavanall not only with the ruling, he

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>said basically, if you come back here again, we're gonna

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a lot worse for you. And I

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>think it made Mark Emmertt like a week seven to

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>ten days later he came out publicly and basically said, well,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>after REP we're pretty much done. We're pulling back and

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna let the conferences govern things moving forward. So

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what got Oklahoma in Texas and these

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you know everything that these dominoes started the fall is

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone's looking at the future and trying to guess where

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>is this thing going? And maybe what you're describing is

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>where we're heading, you know. I mean, I'm an old

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>school guy. I'm a traditionalist. I love college football and

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I love the pageantry of the sport. I hope we

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>don't lose that. But the reality is this thing is

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>out of control. We're at a crossroads with college football

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>right now at the highest level, and we've got decision

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>makers right now that aren't getting along, and they're the

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>ones that are supposed to be leading together and they're not.

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>And so this is nasty. It's not even close to

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>being done. At some point we'll get to, you know,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the worst that it has to offer, and then maybe

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the dustal settle we'll be able to move forward. But

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 1>right now we're not close to that. I can't help

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>but think of name, image and likeness. What happened to

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State and getting tattoos? Where so could they do

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>that now? If somebody wanted to give one of their

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>jerseys or whatever it might be, Hey, I got this

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a Rose Bowl and I'm going to barner that to

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>get tattoos. I don't know. I don't know that my

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>understanding name, image and likeness is you can use your name,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>image or likeness, or whether it's a you know, simple

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>thing like tweeting something out for on behalf of a company,

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>or you know, doing commercials for a local car dealer

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>or pizza dealer or whatever it might be. I don't

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>know if you can barner to try to say, hey,

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>here's here's a jersey that I wore in the Rose Bowl?

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I can I have a free tattoo? I don't

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>know that that's this. This stuff is just too new

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>for me to know if whether or not that is legit.

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>And the same thing with Reggie Bush. I've heard a

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of people say, you know, this is unfair, Reggie

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Bush should be reinstated, And I'm thinking that was like,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>from what I remember about Reggie Bush, that was an

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>agent that had a marketing team that provided money for

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.479
<v Speaker 1>his family. That's a different set of circumstances than if

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Bush did a commercial for somebody and got paid.

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>That would be different, that would be allowed today. But

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>like an agent paying you money is not cool, Like

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that still can't happen. Would you give Reggie Bush's heisman back? Yeah?

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the whole thing is kind of silly. I

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>mean Reggie Bush. I was asked the other day, who

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>are the greatest college football players I've ever covered or

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>ever seen, you know, since I've been doing this, And

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the first name that came to mind was Michael Vick

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just because of people forget people maybe remember him as

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>a as a pro and some of the stuff he

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>got into. I remember him playing at Lane Stadium, you know,

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>for Jennie Chack and doing things that I didn't know

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>you were allowed to do as a quarterback. It was

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just unheard of to see that in person. And then

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the other guys, Reggie Bush, I mean Reggie Bush from

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the very first time I saw him carry the ball

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>as a young player. You know, he would jump in

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the air and land and hit the ground like if

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you're playing a video game and you had a turbo button,

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like he would hit go in the air, land and

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>somehow hit his button when he landed. Him just be

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:06.239
<v Speaker 1>gone and just spectacular. So I hate that he got

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>caught up and whatever it was he got caught up in,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>But to me, I would I would definitely provide him

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>with his heisman and he should be around USC football

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>as often as he can be around. How surprised were

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>you that urban Meyer decided to coach again and coach

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Well, I was surprised, you know, I

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>think I think the you know, watching him on the sidelines.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>You remember when Ohio State was playing in his last year,

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>and how many times do we see him like holding

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>his head and taking a knee and like it almost

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>looked like he was getting dizzy. Um, I don't, I don't.

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I thought, man, this might be, this might be it

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>for him, And I don't know what happened. I've been

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>spoken with him about why now, about his health, and

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that he's always had a calling to want

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to get back in but um, he must feel as

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>far as his doctors with that cyst must be Okay.

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I watched him the other night and he looks still.

0:32:57.800 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, he can't help it. He's so competitive. He's

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>not like a coach like Tom Landry that just kind

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>of sits there and watches the game. I mean, he's

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>he's like blood is boiling on the sidelines is And

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a long year, you know with Jacksonville,

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna have to learn to somehow let those

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>emotions to the side because that offensive line is going

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to allow some hits on his franchise quarterback this year.

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Give me a sneaky team not in the top ten

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that could be in the final four at the end

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>of the year. Well, the one I'll give you this

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>first in the top ten is Cincinnati. And how do

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you How do you get into the playoff because we've

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not seen that if you're a group of five team.

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Boise State used to flirt with the BCFS because they

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>would have a Virginia Tech who was a top ten opponent.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>They'd have a Georgia who is a top ten opponent,

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and they would win those games and they would have

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a shot at the end to try to get in there.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I think with Indiana or with Cincinnati. They play at Indiana,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>who's a top fifteen team this year, and they play

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in South Bend. Those are non conference games for Cincinnati.

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Remember how they played against Georgia and the Sugar Bowl.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>They really outplayed Georgia. They just couldn't close the deal

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and they lost the game, but they were really competitive.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I think they scored some points there as far as respect.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 1>So Cincinnati is a team that I think could actually

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>break into the top four if in fact they win

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>against Indiana and Notre Dame on the road. Then they'd

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>have to win the American Outside of that, I would

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>say I would give you let's say Wisconsin could be

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe a surprise team. They had a down year a

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>year ago. They seemed to be a team that could

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>be on the bounce. I think the winner actually the

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Penn State Wisconsin game they opened up, by the way,

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that's a tough opener in college football. Whoever wins that

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>game I think could bounce and have a legitimate shot

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to get it up into the top ten pretty quickly.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Good luck with the book, and we'll be watching the

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>opening opening night. It'll be Georgia versus Clemson, and that'll

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>be the Duke's Mayo Classic. September the fourth there on ABC. Hey,

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 1>great again, Herbie, thank you, buddy. All right, matters, thank you, Herbie.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll come back and we'll get to your

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>phone calls coming up. I still if you google that

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>when Eminem is in the booth, his eyes are so big,

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and I because you're watching it, you're going, what is

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>he doing? Like he's he's contorting his body and and

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, here's Herbie had just talked to him and

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, you know, everything's good, and all of

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a sudden and three two one, and then all of

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, he starts looking at the camera's eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>really big. And then Brent, who probably knows very little,

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe nothing about Eminem other than his name is Eminem

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and he called him Marshall and matters matters. How about

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>how about that new album Matters? Oh man, is it priceless?

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<v Speaker 1>Having had the opportunity to go to a few Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>Stones concerts, I think my first one was back in

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<v Speaker 1>in the early seventies, and Charlie always it always felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Charlie was a jazz musician. He was a jazz

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<v Speaker 1>drummer playing in the greatest rock and roll band. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you had Jagger who was front and center,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Keith was had flair with the way

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>he played. Ronnie Wood was a great guitar player still is.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill Wyman was the bass player. But Charlie always gave

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<v Speaker 1>you that cool feel that he never he was never

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<v Speaker 1>anything more, any never anything less. He was just like

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<v Speaker 1>he plugged in to be Charlie Watts. And they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back on tour and Charlie wasn't able to.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the first time i'd heard about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some health issues with him. But passed away at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of eighty. And when you talked to drummers and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll tell you, they'll go, oh my god, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what he was so good at, like Ringos are is

0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 1>very underrated. Fellow drummers will talk about, oh my god,

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>you know he created like that Tom Tom like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>just give you all this verbiage, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Because you listen to the Beatles, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>listening for Ringo and Charlie Watts. You're not listening for

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Watts. But if you listen for him, then you

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<v Speaker 1>hear what makes him or made him unique. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>and Keith Richards's autobiography. He talks about when they were

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<v Speaker 1>starting the band and they were like Charlie Watts was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. He was the most important piece, Like we

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>had to have him or the band would have never worked.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I just watched a documentary on Brian Jones, and Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is given credit for starting the Rolling Stones. He

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<v Speaker 1>died at the age of twenty seven with a drowning,

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 1>although in the documentary you realize maybe somebody drowned Brian

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Jones at the age of twenty seven, but you just

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>you never when you think about The Stones. You know

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<v Speaker 1>very very little about Charlie Watts. You know a whole

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<v Speaker 1>about Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. You never heard anything

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<v Speaker 1>from Charlie, but to have an ego, we all have

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<v Speaker 1>an ego, but not have to be out in front,

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>not have to say anything. Very quiet, very reserved. I

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>don't remember ever hearing him talk other than it was

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a documentary on the Rolling Stones, and there would be

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>just like little clips like he would he'd be the

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<v Speaker 1>third guy or fourth guy in and he would just

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<v Speaker 1>say something and then he would crack up the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the band. Yeah. There's another story that Keith Richards

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>tells about Charlie Watts that Keith and Mick went out

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 1>drinking one day and they came back by like five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>They were wasted, right, and Mick calls Charlie Watson says,

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>where's my drummer, and like okay, hangs up and Charlie

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Watts isn't coming out. End like five minutes later, there

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was a knock on the door and they opened the

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>door and he's there, like you could smell the cologne.

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 1>He's got his hair perfect, he's in a suit or whatever,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and he walks up to Mick and punches him in

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<v Speaker 1>the face and said, don't ever call me your drummer again. Okay,

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.800
<v Speaker 1>setting the tone. I don't ever call me your drummer. Yeah,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I was watching a video yesterday and he was an

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>early MTV era, I think, like Start Me Up and

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Mick Jaggers dancing around and Keith Richards has a cigarette

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and his guitar neck and then they were they cut

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to each band member, they cut, cut, cut, and every

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>time they cut to Charlie Watts, it looks like he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing for like an orchestra in a library or something.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>His facial demeanor and his body is there's barely any movement.

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<v Speaker 1>And because you can see drummers and drummers can be animated.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he's not Tommy Lee, that's for sure.

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.760
<v Speaker 1>He was just always like he was in a jazz

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>club while in front of fifty thousand fans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as the drummer for the greatest rock and roll them.

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>So Charlie wants Elliot in Maryland. Elliot's been on hold

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<v Speaker 1>for a while, but he's been on hold for a

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<v Speaker 1>while because he's an Oriole fan waiting for a victory.

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<v Speaker 1>So Elliott, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me, Hof,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy and Danette, good morning eight five. Thank you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am a long time, long suffering Orioles fan thirty

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 1>four years alive and ten winning seasons to show for it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to see the game tonight, mostly to see Otani

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>pitch um, but also want to talk about you know,

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.439
<v Speaker 1>are they tanking or are they just bad? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Harvey is their win leader and he has any

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 1>area over six um. They weren't even expected to win

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>this year. They got Mike Alias too, they brought over

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>as a GM from the Astros. And speaking of drummers, uh,

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any of those in the organization. And

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta look at the top down. But

0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they just got ranked as the number one

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>farm system in baseball as of yesterday. Not really seeing

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that on the field right now, and it's it is

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>embarrassing to watch. You know, you can't blame the manager

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>for everything, but you know, they don't they don't play hard.

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>They're not fun to watch, and most people come to

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>see the opposing teams right now, all right, we'll have

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>fun tonight, Elliott watching Shohyotani pitch Yammy Clement. You can't

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>really tank in baseball, can you? Yeah, teams have to

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 1>get a number one page, you know, like fans don't

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>know much about the MLB draft. You have a fire

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:20.240
<v Speaker 1>swo like the Cubs are tanking again. They tanked before

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to win a World Series. The Marlins would famously have

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>a five year plan and then after the five years

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>then they would take the wrecking ball to it. They

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 1>got two World Series out of it. Teams do, but

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to be good after that. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>tank now, how are you spending your money? Who are

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>your draft picks? Who's going to join you? Who can

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you trade for it? Like you have to. You have

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to have smart people even when you're tanking. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if the Orioles have them. Final Hour coming up,

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