1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: What's good man, Peanut? Bro, I'm a huge fan. Dog. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: I ain't never really gotten to kick it with you, dog, 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: but good good to meet you man on YouTube. Boss, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: you too, huge fan? Roman? What's up? Bro? You know 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: how I feel about you? Dog? I love you Man. 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: How you doing that? I'm good man? You know you 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: my guy. So when they told me it was y'all, 8 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: I said, hell, yeah, let's make it happen. Hey, y'all, 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: what's going on? I'm Peanut and Tuman and I got 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: my guy with me as always roaming the deacon Harbor 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: harpspawn On telling them what's uthing? Man? I appreciate that 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: was a short intro. You didn't give me three or 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: four different nicknames. I would take deacon being from Alabama, 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: that is like the highest of compliments. Growing up in 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: the Baptist church was to be called brother a Deacon 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: Roman Harper. So I'm first of y'all be in church 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: about three four hours on Sunday. Hey, every South every Sunday, 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Every sud At least my 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: church wasn't the one where everybody was just running. Everybody 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: had the Holy Ghost running around sole shoving an Old 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Sky believed it because it was like one every you 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: know it was subbing an old Sky. Ain't then hallelujah, 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: All right, hallelujah. So we got my man today, we 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: got a special guest, my man DeAngelo Hall. For all 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: those that don't know, we all just call him D 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Hall or just D. He is a great friend of mine. 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: I've got to know him through the past couple of 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: golf tournaments. He's got a pretty decent golf swing, but 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: it's more about all the fun and the giggles we 30 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: have when we get together. His second acts include being 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a commentator on different networks, doing radio play by play 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders, and he's currently an analyst with 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: the NFL Network. A fourteen year NFL vent first round 34 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: picked eighth overall, I believe he was the first dB 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: in two thousand and four, taking a three time pro 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: bowler and once picked off Jay Cutler four times in 37 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: one game and the Bears twenty ten. I remember that one. 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: It almost reminded me at the same time when we 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl and I actually played beside 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: this guy and I literally walked away and saying, this 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: is the most most athletic best dB I've ever seen 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: in my life. The guy's feet are amazing, his ball 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: skills are amazing, and he can run. It's just all 44 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: about does he actually really want to play to day? 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I think he didn't want to play that day, and 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: when he did, you saw what you got? D Hall? 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: What's up baby? How you doing? What's going on with Fellas? 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man, And I appreciate that intro. It 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: was it was a it was a damn good one, man. 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just honored to be in the 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: presence of greatness myself, man, Peanut. Like I mentioned earlier, 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: huge fan of yours, man, I can't wait to hell, 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to pick your brain. I might turn this 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: interview into an interview about you. But absolutely excited to 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: be on this on this show. YouTube rong man, love 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: y'all dudes. Man, so huge fan of my DBS, so came. 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I always like when we have a dB on the 58 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: show because it's it's a lot easier to do just 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: because we played the same position. But what I really 60 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: want to say is I remember that that that the 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: game with color and I think we were just sitting 62 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: there like, why the hell is this dude still throwing 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the ball to d hall. Okay, I get the first one, like, yeah, 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: it was a bad throw that was on me. I'm 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make up for it. The second one 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: maybe it was a receiver. The third one, okay, he 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of hot right now. The fourth one, it was 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: just to me. The fourth that was his proud and ego. 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: That was a gift ball. He just stood up. I'm playing, 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: explained to me. All right, dee, tell me kind of 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: like breakdown each one. What were you guys? Maybe in 72 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: give me a quick little synopsis of it. Ended up 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: getting the four. Let me first get y'all a little background. 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: So I played Jay Cutler probably two years. Proud of 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: that when I was in Oakland, right that half a 76 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: year I played in Oakland, UM and when he was 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: in Denver. One of his top receivers was Eddie Royal 78 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: v Tech guy. I didn't play at Tech with Eddie, 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: but I knew all about Eddie. I knew Eddie was 80 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: a really good receiver. But because we're opening, all we 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: played was man. So Mike Shanahan got us, you know, 82 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: running all over the place like he's got all type 83 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: of motions. And like we're in straight man. So I'm 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: joeyo emotion. I'm running back and forth, and so they're 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: killing us. Eddie probably had I don't know, eight nine catches, 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: so I'm sure Jay Cutler probably like, ooh the Hall 87 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: coming to Chicago. I lit him up when I was 88 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: with Denver, right, so he just kept coming to the whale. 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: First one, I'm on Devin Hester. Devin runs like a 90 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: little curl route, I mean, like a man coverage. But Devin, 91 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: being new to the receiver position, he just didn't come 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: back to the ball. So I was able to beat 93 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: him out his break. He was sitting there waiting on 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: the CURRL and I turned into the receiver, came back, 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: ended up having a diving interception for number one. I 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: want to say Number two was a slam route. We 97 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: in literally two man. I got Johnny Knox the inside 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: cut off. Johnny Knox almost like doesn't even fight me 99 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to brunless slant. He just kind of like, all right, 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: you cut me off. Jake throws it right in my hand. 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: The third ones like a blitz. He throws it out 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: to the flats, get it with one hand, and you know, 103 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: take it to the house and the fourth one. Literally 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: couple of three into the game, he just throw that 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: joint up. I'm two yards ahead of the receiver, just 106 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: bailing get the fourth one, and I'm like, man, this 107 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: is easy. Finished the season with five, so that goes 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you get me anymore. The funny thing about that is 109 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: I remember being on the sideline and everyone on defense 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: was like, he made the pro ball off this game 111 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: right here. Yeah, he going the pro ball off this 112 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: game right here, Like it's it's all right. He he 113 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: got one of the three corner spots already, iss gone. 114 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: So just damn now. I got to work and I 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: had two forced phone bolls that game. I thought I 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: was having a good damn game. I tell people, like 117 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: we were battling that team, Like I think Pep Brand 118 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: went back. You called a couple of fumbles. Think Erlacker 119 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: might have had a pick, man, it was The score 120 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: was like fifteen thirteen, Like it was crazy to have 121 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: four picks. The Chicago y'all had a bunch of turnovers too. 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: On us. We had Donovan McNatt, Like it was a 123 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: who's who of guys. Albert Haynes were I I mean 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: it was. It was literally a bunch of dudes on 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: that field, man, but we just could not muster any 126 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: real offense. Man. But it was a hell of a game, man, 127 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and sold your field the iconic stadium man to do 128 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: it there. Man, it was a It was an amazing feeling. Man. 129 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I ain't never been in the zone on a basketball 130 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: court dropping fifty sixty, but I would imagine that's what 131 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: it would feel like. And so Dan's the funny. The 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: best thing about it is literally what Peanut was thinking 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, like, man, this guy's going to the 134 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Literally the rest of the league voted you in. 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: And it was true because I was sitting at the house. 136 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: We watched the highlights and I'm like, this dude got 137 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: four picks. We all came back to our meeting room 138 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: on that Monday and Tuesday, it was like, this dude 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: going to this Pro Bowl. Dog in the Pro Bowl, 140 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: off one game all the time, but one guy is 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: already is don't even worry about he's locked up. And 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: it's true. And so that same year you end up 143 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl. And I was actually your teammate, 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: so it was my first time getting to meet you. 145 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: I met a few quite a few of the other Atlanta, 146 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: your former teammates Atlanta guys there too as well, and 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: so we're all there. Everybody's hanging out and this is 148 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the first time, so I'm supposed to be getting paid 149 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: pretty soon. I was the youngest dB there. It was 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: like Adrian Wilson. But the best thing is that everybody's 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: there and we start remixing coverages. They're like, all right, 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: you can only run so many coverages in the Pro Bowl. 153 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: And Adrian Wilson and who else is the other safety? 154 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I think andreill Roll. They all were like, you know, 155 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna start doing something else. So dude, literally, this 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: guy D'Angel just was sitting on everything and like had 157 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: another like three picks or something like something crazy right 158 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: like another game. He was in his own and I 159 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: literally walked away like this is the most talented guy 160 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. He was like hardly working 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. It's Pro Bowls, He's not going too hard, 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: but it's just like this guy's ball skills are immaculate, 163 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: and so I just wanted to share with that. And 164 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: what was it like that day as well? Because you 165 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: were also in his own you celebrate you got the MVP, 166 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: you got all your family, a kid, everybody was there. 167 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It was all I was kind of envious, kind of 168 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: did I did you know? I always ever since my 169 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: rookie year, right when when when I when I was 170 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: wanted to make the Pro Bowl, and I kind of 171 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: hit it in my head, right, it was such a 172 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, when we were playing, um, it was 173 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: such a huge honor. Everybody said, man, I can't wait 174 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: to go across the water, right, And that was that 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: was the thing to try to try to get to 176 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. It was kind of the measuring stick, UM, 177 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: And so yeah, man, I always it was such an 178 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: honor for me to go. I had to make sure 179 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: I included everybody who kind of helped me along the way. 180 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I always kind of had bore the 181 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: crew and I just remember thinking, Man, if they throw 182 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: this rock, I'm gonna have a chance. And I remember 183 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: telling everybody all week like, bro, I'm gonna try to 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: go get this MVP like they thrown it in the air, 185 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get some picks. 186 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, they ran like a deep post and I 187 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: was able to stay on top. Like you talked about 188 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: the ball skills, man, that was something Even now watching 189 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: football man and watching dvs not play the ball, it's 190 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: so frustrating being a dude who played the ball in 191 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: the air because like a lot of them, silly penalties 192 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: is just a comfort thing. Right, you're in perfect position, 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: just get your hand around. Or I see a guy 194 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: go put one hand out and knock it down when 195 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: you very easily could have put two and accepted it. Man. 196 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I was just I was always told at a young age, man, 197 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: get the football, like it's value in getting the football. 198 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that Pro Bowl, man, I just remember 199 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: even when I tackled people, right, I hit Westwalk on 200 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: the sideline and I went to form tackling them, and 201 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I feeled that football and 202 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: then you know, got the you know, this little strip 203 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: got the football out. And I teach my kids that man, 204 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: like they tackle the football like you know, I'm not 205 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: saying I'm not trying to tackle you, I'm trying to 206 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: tackle the football. And it's something I've always done, man, 207 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: since I mean I got videos in high school, middle 208 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: school stripping the ball on like form tackles man, and 209 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: so I just have always valued that football, man, And 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was because I started out 211 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: as an offensive guy that just so happened to want 212 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: to play defense. A lot of people think, I think, 213 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: because we're dbs, we can't catch or something's wrong. I'm like, no, 214 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: I just like hitting. I like hitting people versus getting hit, 215 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: and so to me it was easy. I'm a play 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: offense when I get the ball. When I intercepted, I 217 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: can turn into an offensive guy. But I'd rather do 218 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the hitting than get hitting. So yeah, it was to me, 219 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: it was just always about getting the football. Sometimes it 220 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: got me in a little bit of trouble, but it 221 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: wasn't until I got with coaches who understood, like, man, 222 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: this is a dude who who wants to get the football. 223 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: If I can put some plays in that allows him, 224 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: that's why we running some trap with Roby. We can 225 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: run some plays that allows him to be greedy, maybe 226 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: he won't be greedy, and other coverages, and I mean 227 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: it was a it was a match made in heaven 228 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: between between me and Raheen Morris because he understood what 229 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: it was like to have a guy who wanted to 230 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: get the football, and so he didn't mind giving me 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: some coffee. But we say like, coach, I need to 232 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: break and he knew that meant all right, let me 233 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: run something to let you turn into the playmaker versus 234 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: having to protect from the deep ball or any other thing. 235 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: So it was just like you talked about, man, it 236 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: was just just being in the zone man. And like 237 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: you said, the Pro Bowl, man, everybody out there kind 238 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: of kind of halfassing it sometimes, and so I wanted 239 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: to go out there and try to make it. Anything 240 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: you said, somebody going to get the ball, you tackle 241 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the football. Gilbert San Diego Chargers Ring of Honor. He 242 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: was my dB coach and Chicago and he used to 243 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: always say, I mean, I ain't got a foot ball, 244 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: but he was like, Yo, it's about the football. This 245 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: thing right here, it's worth millions and if you go 246 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: out there and you can get it back, you will 247 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: get millions of dollars. It's about this football right here. 248 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: It's like, when that ball is in the air, it's anybody's, 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: but my mindset is that's my damn ball. I'm going 250 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: to get it. When the ball is in the air, 251 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: I become the receiver. That mindset is kind of what 252 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: transcended in my opinion, like our defense that's that's kind 253 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: of how we operate. It was like, Yo, go get 254 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: the ball back. Go get the ball back for our offense. 255 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: And you were talking about teaching your kids how to 256 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: do that, how to play that. You sound like a coach. 257 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: I know that's something that you've been passionate about and 258 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: some things that you want to do. Where did coaching 259 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: come into play? I mean, I I just think I 260 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: just think we as former players, man like, we have 261 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: such a wealth of knowledge, right, and I've had coaches 262 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: who could could coach the game, but it just always 263 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: felt different coming from a guy who had actually done it. 264 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: And then we communication, right. We've all been in DV 265 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: rooms where a coach might say something right and you 266 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: got guys in the room who like, huh, like coach 267 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: when and then maybe you as a leader, you you 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: see the same thing the coach says, and you can 269 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: comprehend it, but you just have a way of just 270 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: simplifying it right, putting it in layment terms, even in 271 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: terms that they can understand, right, instead of pastor the art. 272 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: We got to check this out if we got strong 273 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: side over here, and it's you know, it's just an 274 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: easier way to communicate it. And so for me, I've 275 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: always just I don't know, man, I just I feel 276 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: like I've always had a way with words. I've always 277 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: been able to communicate. And so for me, towards the 278 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: back end of my career, right, I played fourteen years. 279 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: The last four I probably played maybe ten games the 280 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: last four years, and so a lot of it was 281 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: I r right. Year eleven, I tore my achilles. Year twelve, 282 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: I had a turf toe that I missed like eight games. 283 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Year thirteen, I had a acl so year fourteen, you know, 284 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: I was just trying to not have a surgery and 285 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: finish the season healthy, and so like, from year eleven 286 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: to fourteen, a lot of that was spent essentially coaching, 287 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: pouring into a lot of these young guys. And it 288 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: was there that I that I really felt like, man, 289 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: like I gotta I got a real talent for this. 290 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Just the business in general, right, especially the National Football League. 291 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: It's so it's so hard because as players, we were 292 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: always taught, man, peanut, if you're good, they're gonna see you. 293 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna get noticed in high school, scholarship, in college, 294 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into the league. In the league you're 295 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna get a Pro Bowl, You're gonna get all pros, 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna get contracts and get your money, you know, 297 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: and get paid right. Coaching for some reason, it just 298 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: the best doesn't always get the job right, and so 299 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of weirdness. It's definitely frustrating when you're a 300 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: former athlete who has always been taught let you let 301 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: your work speak for self. And so I've kind of 302 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: geared away from actually wanting to coaching the league because 303 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: I've seen so much of the nepotism. I've actually, you know, 304 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed being on TV so much because now I feel 305 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: like I have to advocate for some of those coaches, right, 306 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: And I've love having my voice. I'm loving the platform. 307 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm understanding the way to use it a little bit 308 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: more as I continue in it. And hell, man, I 309 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: apologize to numerous black coaches that I played for, just 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: because I didn't know that the grind and the struggle 311 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: was that real. I didn't either, player Like, we don't 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: really think about that as players, right, we don't really 313 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: think about who's coaching us with a guy who should 314 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: have got the job. We're just like, all right, this 315 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: is our coach, even if you don't know what he's doing. 316 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: We try to find a way to make the best 317 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: of it. Right. But you know the best thing about that, though, 318 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: is those black coaches, in my opinion, what I admire 319 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: about all those black coaches, they never complain to us exactly, 320 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: you never shut up and they would. They just grind 321 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: and they got through it, you know. And I it 322 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: doesn't make it right, but I appreciate them not complaining 323 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: and and and and going through that process to make 324 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: me a better player because the majority of my coaches 325 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: in the league were black. Yeah you know say that, 326 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: but I think you know, and I learned this from 327 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, not only as a former teammate of mine, 328 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: but then as later on in my career as my 329 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: DV coach before now being a DC at Detroit, was 330 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: that not that does he have to do just as much, 331 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: but you gotta do more. You gotta do more, you 332 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: gotta do more. You gotta do twice as months just 333 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: to get half. Yeah, and so well that's his mindset. 334 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: And so to be able to go out there and 335 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: like he was saying, yeah, he's just like you. Former 336 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: great player, first round pick, got all these great accolades, 337 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: but still when you get in that coaching room, they 338 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: still look at you. It was like, oh, this is 339 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: just a player, because I think sometimes coaches that don't 340 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: play look at players coaches that DoD that did play 341 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: and look at them with a kind of a side 342 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: eye or like, what is that tension? Maybe because you've 343 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: been in that room a little they do because I 344 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: think that isn't they do, guys. And I'm not gonna 345 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: throw any coaches under the bus. But um, when I 346 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: first retired, Man, I actually interviewed to be the dB 347 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: coach for Washington at one point. Yes, um, and I 348 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: had already kind of wrapped my head around Man, I 349 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: want to coach, right. I interviewed for the University of 350 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: Maryland when Locksley had got the job, and he offered 351 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: me the job right there on the spot. And a 352 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: couple days later I found out, probably one day later, 353 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I found out, Man, Washington's gonna probably fire they dB coach. 354 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: They were looking for for a dB coach. So I'm like, Man, 355 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: so I hit Locksley up, like coach, I can't one 356 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent tell you yes, to know, I got to 357 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: take this opportunity. And he was one hundred percent cool 358 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: with it. He said, I couldn't wait all day. You know, 359 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: I feel like our job is the best. You know, 360 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: Dada da da? What are you supposed to say? And 361 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm in this interview and I had other coaches you 362 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: know along the way who's coached me, kind of helped 363 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: prep me forward. And I mean I was I was 364 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: on man, Like I got a power point. I'm going 365 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: like coverages, what do you yes? Like, I'm I'm showing 366 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: what I'm what my philosophy is right, How I value 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: getting the football, how I value putting you in position 368 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: to get the football, the technique that da da dad. 369 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm rolling through all the coordinators and I really was 370 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: like wow, like I've been around some really some really 371 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: dope dude, some really you know coaches that are well 372 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: respected in this league. And I get in there and 373 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm bad blah blah blah blah. I'm 374 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: killing it and I leave it and like the coaches 375 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: are like wow, like we're impressed. And then the head 376 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: coach and the DC was in the meeting, and later 377 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: on I find out I was so close to getting 378 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: the job, but I ended up not getting it right. 379 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: And the reason is because the coordinator came in and 380 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: kind of told the head coach like, you know, this 381 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: might be my last time being a coordinator, and I 382 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: really just I really don't want the first year dB coach. 383 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: And this was a former player and one of his 384 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: one of his questions to me was, man, are you 385 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: are you really ready to commit to this? And I'm thinking, like, well, 386 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: what makes you think if I was a great player 387 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: and I committed to being a great player, like, it's 388 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the same type of commitment, right, Like, I'm gonna commit 389 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: to putting my players in position to make like being 390 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: a great coach as well, I'm I'm gonna put tenfold 391 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: that effort. But I also had a question in the 392 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: back of my head, like and I wanted to say this, 393 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: but I didn't because I wanted to be respectful. But 394 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I was like, so, what makes you think you could 395 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: You could do it as a former player who wasn't 396 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: a really good player, but you could do it. But 397 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: what makes you think I can't do it? Instead of 398 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: being a former player saying hell, yeah, bro, that's what 399 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I had the same mindset and bringing you along, but 400 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: they don't do that. They don't bring you along you 401 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean, They almost see you as competition. 402 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, man, it ain't a lot of these jobs, 403 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: and so I kind of understand it. But I was 404 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: never of that mindset. Right when a young dude came in, 405 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm pouring everything into him because I want you at 406 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: your best to try to take my job, because if 407 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't earn this spot, somebody's gonna somebody's gonna take it, 408 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: whether I tell you nothing and try to saying bag you, 409 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: and then the next year somebody take my spot while 410 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: I look bad and they bring in the free agent. 411 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: So it was always my mindset, let me pour everything 412 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: I can into you as a young guy, because I 413 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: want you knowing when I what I know right, because 414 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna play this game forever. But 415 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: I also want you at your best when I when 416 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: I win the job, you know what I mean. And 417 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: so I've always wanted smarter guys than myself on staffs. 418 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: And like I was always that guy, man, we can 419 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: get keyed, man, go get keyed. That's gonna make my 420 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: job easier. Or we could go get rich guy. Guy. 421 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: I always wanted to play, you know, with other great 422 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: players because I just always felt like they would make 423 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: me better, you know what I mean, the more players 424 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: we got, the easier it will to win a game. 425 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: That's the good thing about coach Coach Vera. You know, 426 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: when Rome and I are in I had I had 427 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: the honor and privilege of being coached by him when 428 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: I was in Chicago, when he was there, we went 429 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: to Super Bowl and then when I was in Carolina. Actually, 430 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: the two Super Bowls I've been to have been with 431 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: Coach Vera. He has been my good luck charming to 432 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: get me new Super Bowl. But his whole coaching philosophy 433 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: is I need to bring my coaches up. My goal 434 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: as a head coach is to coach my coaches and 435 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: help my coaches become head coaches. Want my coaches to 436 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: be head coaches with me. And you would see him 437 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: let the youngest guy, the most rookie guy on the 438 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: staff get in front of the team and have a 439 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: ten minute conversation with the team, and it was the 440 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: coolest It was the coolest thing. And I really liked 441 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: how he would lead and because I think he's always saying, 442 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: you never want to you never want your first opportunity 443 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: to have the room when you get it for your 444 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: first job. You want to be able to do it 445 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: as like an intern or a graduate assistant, Like you 446 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: want to have all that experience going into becoming a 447 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: DV coach. But by the time you become a DV coaches, like, 448 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I already know how to do a room, I've already 449 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: had a room before, you know. So with all that 450 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: being said, all the rook that you have to do, 451 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: all these little side jobs, and you know, starting at 452 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: the bottom, working and way back to the top. D Hall, 453 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: how do you feel about Jeff Saturday being a head 454 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: coach just kind of skipping all that and going right 455 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: to the top. And no disrespect to Jeff. I don't 456 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: think he's a bad person or anything. This is not 457 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: a knock on Jeff. It ain't it ain't nothing to do. 458 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: It's absolutely and look, I know Jeff personally, like love 459 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Jeff personally, Like that's my dude. Like I hit him 460 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: up when he got the job. I talked to Jeff 461 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: prior to that about a lot of things when I 462 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: was living in Georgia before I moved to Virginia full time. 463 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: Jeff was thirty minutes from me um and so like 464 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: I got a great relationship with Jeff, And I'm one 465 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent so hype that a dude who had no 466 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: coaching experience as a former player stand on that shield 467 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: and say yeah, like this is what I do. Like 468 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: when people ask me like can can can ken I guy, 469 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, hell yeah, a guy can do that. Now. 470 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: What sucks is that a black And I hate to 471 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: say this, but a black player would never get that chance. 472 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: This way, I love John Lynch. I could call John 473 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Lynch right now and get John on the phone. John 474 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: hasn't has asked me to come out and be a 475 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: part of the forty nine is front office because at 476 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: one point I had aspirations of being in the front office, 477 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: right and but for him to come from the booth 478 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: and get that opportunity, like the black former players just 479 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: don't get that opportunity, man, and it sucks. It sucks. 480 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: And so I'm hyped for Jeff and I think he'll 481 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: do great because at the end of the day, the 482 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: players want, they want to do who's who's been through 483 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: the fire like they want a leader, And that's what 484 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: people don't understand. Like as a head coach, yeah, I 485 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: gotta know exits and those and I gotta know game 486 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: plans and all this, But I'm a CEO man, like, 487 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I gotta be able to manage relationships. I have to 488 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: be able to communicate. I have to be able to 489 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: lead men. And Jeff's a hell of a leader. There's 490 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: a lot of former play that are great leaders. Like 491 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: I think about the NBA and I look at all 492 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: the guys who are helping Bill rosters in the NBA, 493 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: all these former players that are GM's presidents and head 494 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: coaches with no experience. Just man, I've been in that 495 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: locker room for fifteen years. Man, I know what it's 496 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: supposed to look like. I know what a guy who 497 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: really wants to work at his craft, I know what 498 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: it looks like. I also know what it looks like 499 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: when a guy I kind of just want to give 500 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: a lip service. Yeah, coach, I'm gonna do that. Your 501 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: film doesn't show me that you care about the game 502 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: like you're telling me you care about the game. And 503 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: so I just feel like we look at things with 504 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: a different lens, right Like when I'm looking at a player, 505 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking at scheme. I'm looking at you know, what 506 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: does he do? Well? I'm looking at can I put 507 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: him in position to be successful, because we all know, 508 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: if I can put you in position to be successful, 509 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna be confident. And when you got confidence, man, 510 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: as a player, there it ain't nothing you feel like 511 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: you can't do. And so there's a lot of these 512 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: little things that I feel like council pushes just don't 513 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: really comprehend. And I know I'm kind of off subject, 514 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: but no, no, no, you're speaking mom Brollius. But Jeff 515 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: got that opportunity because of his relationship and because of 516 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: no black ownership. It's hard to have a genuine relationship 517 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: from a guy who can really one percent relate to you. 518 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: And the best way I can describe it is when 519 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of front office like training 520 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, I was talking to a lot of former 521 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: gyms and presidents and they were just you know, they 522 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: were telling me like like when you're in there talking 523 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: to the owner, like the owner don't really know football, 524 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: so he ain't like he's not trying to be wooed 525 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: by xs and os, like he's being wooed by his 526 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: life experiences and his conversational skills. And so I'm gonna 527 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: throw author smith name in the bank because in the 528 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: bucket because I know Author Smith. He's the Falconst coach. 529 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: He was a he was a low level like QC. 530 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: When I first got to Washington in two thousand and eight, 531 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't know who Author Smith was. I didn't 532 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: know him from the Man on the Moon and somebody 533 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know his daddy owned FedEx. I say, 534 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, his daddy, Fred Smith, like literally owns 535 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: FedEx and is a part of Washington's ownership group. That's 536 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: how he got a job. I'm like, for real, Yeah, 537 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: So his dad's a billionaire who has been trying to 538 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: buy a team for years and possibly still Mike. Right. 539 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: They're based out of Nashville, and so for Author Smith 540 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: to go in there and talk to author Blank, it's 541 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: a different conversation when he's interviewing right. Athor probably knows 542 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: his dad in some circles, but it's a different conversation 543 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: that those guys are having versus, said Eric b Enemy 544 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: who goes in to have a conversation with an owner, 545 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's so many 546 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: life experiences that just we can't fully relate to. It's 547 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: almost like would you grow up at right? And it's 548 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: your background, and all those things kind of come into 549 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: come into the equations. It's not just football, it's who 550 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: that owner really feels the most comfortable with and whether 551 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: he admits it or not, any owner, whether they admit 552 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: it or not, they're comfortable with who they're comfortable with, 553 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: they're around the most noubt ligiately, it's not us and 554 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: now dangel and have some of us in that room. 555 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: It ain't gonna change now now all that being said, 556 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: and like I would agree with you three thousand percent 557 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: because most people probably are used to, you know, certain 558 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: power structures in their own life or their own life experiences. 559 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: So what they see or what they grow with, they're 560 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of like what they're used to and it's been 561 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: successful for them. These are not just like middle of 562 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: the road people were referring to. So with all that, 563 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: what you talked about the front office row, So where 564 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: where would you see yourself in the front office row 565 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: when you did envision yourself there? Like what was that 566 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: looking like? Because I thought I wanted to be a 567 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: gem at some point, Like yeah, I mean, I don't know, 568 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: helping Bill Rosters my first year being retired, man, I 569 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: actually uh intern in in Washington's front office. So I 570 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: got to go to the combine, I got to break 571 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: down the dbs um and it was the year you 572 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: here Alexander came out Denzel Award. Who'd you like more? JR. 573 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: Alexander or Denzel Award? I mean they both were studs. Now, 574 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't know j here. And so 575 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: my dB coach was his coordinator at Louisville, and so 576 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: I had an insc how small football gets the award. 577 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: Actually played at Bama Whammy and so coach me at 578 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, and so I kind of had an inside 579 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: track on how this kid's makeup was, Like what drove 580 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: him right, That competitiveness, that edge that you have to have, 581 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: And I kind of had that same inclination when you 582 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: talk about j C. Horn Right, Absolutely love Pat Curtain, 583 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: love love him to death, technician, great corner. It was 584 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: just something about j C. Gamee that I just always 585 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: put JC ahead of Certain for the simple fact I 586 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: felt like he was more the kind of player that 587 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: I would like on my team. Not saying Certain wasn't better, 588 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: and I still think probably Curtain's better for sure, but 589 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: it was something about that dull mentality that He told 590 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: me that he just always wanted to compete the hall, 591 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: no matter what. And I'm like, like, that's the same 592 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: thing that told me about you here, right, He just 593 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: always wanted to compete. Denzel was better, smoother, faster, a 594 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of these other things, probably more more polished. But 595 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: it was something about you here, Alexander that just when 596 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: I watched him on film, it resonated with me. And 597 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: it was the same thing about J. C. Horne. And 598 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I say all that to say as a front office 599 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: guy because we've been in those situations on a field 600 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: watching guys come in, young guys come in. It's crazy 601 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: because we can see it in guys. We can see 602 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: the little things, the little nuances that a guy might 603 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: do that the untrained scout, he don't know what the 604 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: hell are you really looking at? Like he was looking 605 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: at a list that tells him, who need to be 606 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: this tall, he needs to run this fast. It's forty Okay, 607 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: he's sowing. So he's sowing so because its sides of 608 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: weight and height. No, his game ain't sowing, so you 609 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, And so it's just it 610 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: was always building rosters, man, and it was building rosters 611 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: with the mindset of not only athletically, how do you 612 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: fit in my scheme, but personality wise, how many guys 613 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: will come in your locker room personality wise? That great 614 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: player but just didn't fit right. We had Albert Haynesworth 615 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: at one point, dog great player, but he was never 616 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: gonna he was never gonna work with Mike Shanahan, and 617 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: so it just threw off the whole vibe of a 618 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, it grew through through the whole vibe of 619 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: the locker room. And so there's a lot of those 620 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: things when you talk about trying to build a roster 621 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: that I don't think the average person really takes into consideration. 622 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: They just think we're playing Matt and just plug him 623 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: in and he can do it all. He's he's a 624 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: ninety five where he's a great player. We're gonna plug 625 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: him in. He's a zone corner we played man, probably 626 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: not gonna work for him, you know what I mean, 627 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: Like Josh Norman, man, we needed him to do stuff 628 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: a little different than how we do things. Coach. We 629 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: can make him a great player. We just gotta put 630 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: him in position to make them plays. Put him in 631 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: man and tell them get out of break with cats 632 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: ain't really what he gonna be great at. And so 633 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: you just gotta find you gotta find your niche right, 634 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: put it down position to be successful, and here's be 635 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: an all pro for you. I mean, I did a 636 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: little bit of broadcasting, talking on TV and it was cool, 637 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: little it's fun, and people always ask me, Oh, why 638 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: don't you get into coaching. You'd be a great coaching. 639 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I think I'd be decent at it at best. I mean, 640 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about. I know what to 641 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: look for as you as you as you were saying, 642 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: like we see things through our football ends. We don't 643 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: just watch games. It's like, oh yeah, he called the 644 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: ball cool. Like I'm looking at all quarterbacks outside the pocket. Okay, 645 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: he's twelve years on the field. I can push my 646 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: receiver down. I don't you know, Like I'm looking at 647 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: all these these little things. Which one are you more 648 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: passionate about broadcasting or being a coach. That's a great question, challenging. 649 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I'm struggling with this because 650 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: my wife always gets on me. Right, because every time 651 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching the game, I'm a TV I'm coaching, right, 652 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm coaching my kids I'm telling I'm just coaching. What 653 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: was wrong? You should just coach? And I'm like, right, 654 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: I love my free time too much at this point 655 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: in my life. Like they missed that bandwagon right when 656 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: they didn't let me in when they did and I 657 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: was ready to mit. Yeah, And so now I just 658 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I can't coach now, right. I got 659 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: little ones that I'm that I'm enjoying pouring into them. 660 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: I enjoyed my free time. I enjoyed golf and trying 661 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: to golf and be a good golfer. I was hearing 662 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: that I was. My head ain't even wrapped on six 663 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: in the morning to eight at night. Like that's a grin. 664 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that. I don't realize the 665 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: grind that coaches. Then I don't want to feel too much. 666 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: Nub y'all worked days. They worked twelve hour days, Peanut 667 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: and d haul to get like one steal of a play, 668 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: like twelve hours to get to set up a player 669 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: for one play. And don't let them mess it up 670 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: because they're gonna let you know it ain't for me. 671 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: It ain't probably fight one of these players. They've mess 672 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: stuff out. The idn't got during spent all that time 673 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: trying to help you make a play. One play. It 674 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: ain't a one route. Man. I'm screaming on last year 675 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: old fifty and sixth graders out here playing. I'm the coordinator, 676 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: d coordinator. I'm screaming on everybody because if I hadn't 677 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: told you how to make that play, dog, and you 678 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: ain't make like, come on, man, you know what I mean. Like, 679 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: but I got a high I got a high standard, man. 680 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: And so like even like my kids watching film, they 681 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: you know, they're making plays. Like my eleven year old 682 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: made a play on the screen pad and I remember 683 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: showing it to him on film, and like on the 684 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,919 Speaker 1: field after he makes the play, he's like the brain 685 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: I saw it on film, and I'm like, that's what it. 686 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: Dudes in the league can't comprehend sending it on film 687 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: and taking it to the game, and so it's it's 688 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's fun, man, Like I'm having so much fun, 689 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: uh coaching them. I never really got nervous because I 690 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: always knew what to expect out of myself. I get 691 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: nervous watching them. Like it's way more exciting watching them 692 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 1: make a play than any play I ever made. So 693 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: my daughter has her first game today. She's on the varsity. 694 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: And my look, I got my old she's about six 695 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: feet tall. She a tall. Yeah, she had hooper and 696 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: she got a first game tonight. And I'm you're you're 697 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: a thousand percent right. When your kids are playing and 698 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: they're doing things and they're making plays, it doesn't even 699 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: compare to what you did when you made a play 700 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: and you got eighty thousand, ninety thousand people screaming your name. 701 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: It's me a couple of other parents in the gym, 702 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: and I am just like I am on ten, so 703 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: excited for my kids. It's one of the one of 704 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: the coolest things. So we're gonna gonna pay some bills, 705 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, and when we come back, 706 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about my calls, my cleat and what 707 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: you have yours for. When you were playing, you had 708 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: a couple of things going on, right you were you 709 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: were involved with some some charitable some charities, I should say, 710 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: uh and now being retired out of the game broadcaster, uh, 711 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: Pop Warner Coach of the Year. What are what are 712 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: some of the what are some of the what is 713 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: your my cause? My cause my Cleat campaign. God, I 714 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: cannot say that word. I know, I know, it's a 715 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: tongue twister where you know, my cause my cleat has 716 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 1: has been something that I've been I've been a part 717 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: of for a long time, and I've always supported the 718 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: MS Society. UM Multiple SCORROSIVESUH. I had two sisters with 719 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: multiple scorrosives. One passed away about three years ago from 720 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: MS UM, and it was a disease that you know, 721 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: we really didn't know a whole lot about five thirty 722 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: years ago when they were first diagnosed UM. But it's 723 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: something that's you know, very near and dear to my heart. 724 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: UM is something that I'm obviously always trying to you know, 725 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: raise awareness for having you know, having had two sisters 726 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: with it UM and you know, just seeing how it's 727 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: impact other families. Anyway I can, you know, help bring awareness, 728 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: help bring resources money, UM. You know, I'm always trying 729 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: to trying to help. You know, another guy who grew 730 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: up kind of in my area as a baseball player 731 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: named Ryan Zimmerman who played for the Nationals for a 732 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: whole lot of years, and his mom was diagnosed with 733 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: MS two number of years ago, and you know, it's 734 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: been it's been one of my missions, just trying to 735 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: help bring more awareness, bring more attention. Um, you know, 736 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: like I said, just bring more resources, because when we 737 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: found out about it, it wasn't a lot of it 738 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of research, wasn't a lot of information 739 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: to to try to get better. Um, and especially having 740 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: a sister passed away from it. Um, you know, I 741 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: seeing the way that affected my mom's in the way 742 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: that affected our family, I just felt like it was 743 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: it was my duty, you know, it was my duty 744 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: to kind of let my story be known and let 745 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: everybody know that you know that you're not alone in 746 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: this fight. You know what's really crazy, though, is that, Um, 747 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, one of my former my pastor used to 748 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: say something and Daniel, you're a great example, is that 749 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: you know, once you're affected by something, you'll become an 750 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: a loocate for it. Yeah, and so and so hearing 751 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: that story. I didn't even know that, you know, I 752 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: mean you didn't for years and didn't even know that 753 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: and already hear that about your sister and stuff. But 754 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: I think it's outstanding when players use their platform and 755 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: all is a simple as some cleats, right and that 756 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: you're bringing attention to these things and giving a chance 757 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: for so many families that now because like you said, 758 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: the research has more research has been done the way 759 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: we can find and trying to help people ease into 760 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: things that going on in their lives. I think it's outstanding. Um, 761 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: and I did not know that, but I really applaud 762 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: you for being such a strong advocate and standing up 763 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: for that. It's outstanding, not more than it's more than 764 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: just a pair of cleats that you were in your feet, 765 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. I appreciate it. So we got 766 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: we got some some quick here to questions, so quick bangers. 767 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: Boom boom. First thing comes to mind, first thing that 768 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: comes to mind? All right, all right, who has a 769 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: better golf swing? You are wrong? He know that? Probably wrong? 770 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: You know that. I hate to say that too, but 771 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you next year and it ain't gonna be him. 772 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: So so, Peter, you gotta understand. We play in this 773 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: shootout bro in Hershey, Pennsylvania. It's it's legit, Bro. It's 774 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: so fun. Doc, like we we gonna all go out there. 775 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: We have such a good time. Man. There's so many 776 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: of us like younger NFL guys. Bro, we get to 777 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: hang out with older guys and we get to know 778 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: each other through this, Like this is how I got 779 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: to know D'Angelo so well. And we really spend like 780 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: three days, Bro, and just like kick it and uh 781 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: it's great. But right now I do got him. I'm 782 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: working too, though, I'm gonna be as much as we 783 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: kick it wrong. We have never been golfing well because Petero, 784 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: you don't want to go off it. We gonna golf 785 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: next time. We don't want to Dangel he don't want 786 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: to go off. I brought him as he walk at 787 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: all No, hes there all day, Yeah, golf with beginn 788 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: of golfers. Bro, I'm sorry all day. I never I 789 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: go out there with two balls. I go out there 790 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: with two boxes of balls. I don't even look for 791 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: my ball. No, then't on the green. I just dropped. 792 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: What the next one is here? Then Joe, we get 793 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: through like three holes, four holes. He's like, man, I'm bored. 794 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Like we done. I'm like, Bro, we got through the 795 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: front nine. I'm because you're my guy. I'm gonna play 796 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: golf with Thank you all right, next one you're ready 797 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: when you're not pursuing your career goals? Do you still 798 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: change tires in your spare time? This is a skill 799 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: that I think most people need to have, but I 800 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: want to know I would, Guy, I gotta hear the 801 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: story from this. So look that's that's that's my oldest son. 802 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: That was a couple of years ago. My oldest son 803 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: is twenty. That's his tutor's car and it she got 804 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: a fletch tire coming to our house right outside of 805 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. That's the sign right behind the car. And 806 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, look, miss brill, come, I come take 807 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: my car home. I'll just change the car, like I'll 808 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: change the tire. I've changed probably three or four tires 809 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: before my day. And so got down on my hands 810 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: and knee. People seeing in the neighborhood know who I 811 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: am blowing the horn saying what's up? I want to say, 812 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: my wife probably took that picture just to try to 813 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: be funny because she was taking you know, one of 814 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: the probably girls to a cheer or something leaving the house. 815 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, but yeah, you know, I don't mind getting 816 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: my hands dirty, man, for sure. Hall filling the blank 817 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 1: right now. My life is oh amazing, amazing, man Like, 818 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, being able to being able to be a dad, 819 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: Like I was a dude who grew up without a dad. 820 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: Like literally guys did know didn't see my my dad's 821 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: face until I buried them, um, and so never had 822 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: a relationship with them. And so for me to be 823 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: drafted at twenty play fourteen years, leave the game, get 824 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: to talk about it on TV, get to hang out 825 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: with dudes that I was huge fans of, um, get 826 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: to talk about it on TV with with with you 827 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: know these young guys. Just feeling like I've never had 828 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: a job before. Like, as a parent, that's your aspirations 829 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: for your kids, right to to to be as happy, 830 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: go lucky as I am. Um. And so like everything's 831 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: just great, man Like I'm trying to pour as much 832 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: knowledge and just information and understanding into my kids so 833 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: that so that they can have the same opportunities. You 834 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That I had been a dad 835 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: has been so cool, you know what I mean? So dope, 836 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: it's just like everything's just amazing, man Like I do 837 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: some real estate stuff, you know, you talked about some 838 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: of the stuff I do on the network. And just 839 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: just being able to always be home always take a 840 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: kid lunch to school or you know what I mean. 841 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's I'm having a blast in this 842 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: chapter of my life, man, and that's why I'm not coaching. 843 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't like, I ain't got no stress, like 844 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: I do what I want, I ain't got nobody telling me. 845 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: Like as much as we love the NFL, I ain't 846 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: really like people telling me what to do, you know 847 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like twenty four to seven, non stop, 848 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 1: like you can't feel like you're walking on egg shells, 849 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: and especially in today's society right with social media, just 850 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: everything so accessible instant. Man, I'm glad I wasn't playing 851 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: during this era, you know what I mean? You know 852 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: what I mean. But I'm just enjoying, enjoying really relaxing man, 853 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: being a dad and just chilling well d Man, I 854 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man. We couldn't ended on a better situation, 855 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: a better story, and a more relaxing feeling after that 856 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: man shot kicking my feet up myself. Let's enjoy this 857 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: retirement slash second chapter. Baby, as are you here? Yeah? Baby, 858 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: straight up kicked up man, Thank you so much for 859 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: coming on, man, appreciate you. Man. I appreciate y'all having 860 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: me purely serious, seriously thankful, and I want to sit 861 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: up here and thank all those listeners for tuning in. 862 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: Ask you to spread the word and to give us 863 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: a raiding, a review and a follow on Apple Podcasts, 864 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: the our Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 865 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. Shout out to us in the NFL Player's 866 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: Second Acts podcast. Appreciate it. Thanks de Hall, no doubt,