Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why? Why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that? Culture? Yes? Goodness? Lost culture?
Speaker 1: Where to begin? Who am I looking at? Sometimes I
Speaker 1: have to look twice this new person in front of me.
Speaker 1: What are you feeling? If you did not know me,
Speaker 1: if you were in a terrible accident, lost all your memories,
Speaker 1: your your hippocampus was rash, mother, Connie racked campus, racked
Speaker 1: in an accident, and if you saw me for the
Speaker 1: first time, listen, I didn't want to talk about the
Speaker 1: hair that much. But what do you expect? I have
Speaker 1: to react to stimuli? Please, Okay? So then what do
Speaker 1: you think of this person? I would think fatal. I
Speaker 1: would think I see Sharon Stone, basic instinct, pussy Barren,
Speaker 1: ice Pick, Wheeldon, troublemaking, fem fatal of the Sharon Stone ilk.
Speaker 1: It's giving me a little bit unapologetic Slytherin hon it's
Speaker 1: saying Draco, fuck it. You walk into a room and
Speaker 1: Draco Malfoy drops the fine china he's holding. He says,
Speaker 1: who the fuck is my sister? It is giving me
Speaker 1: high impact, it's giving me shock, it's giving me lightning type.
Speaker 1: It's giving me everything I need and more girl, Thank you.
Speaker 1: How do you feel? I think it's all I think
Speaker 1: it's giving is corn silk I mean my corn silk
Speaker 1: era one of the best eras to be in, and
Speaker 1: it's actually goes chars art era, and then you go
Speaker 1: to your corn corns. That's actually the evolution. When the way, bitch,
Speaker 1: when do you think you'll be in your corn silk era?
Speaker 1: Are you in it already? You know? Perchance? I am bo,
Speaker 1: per chance? I am what? How are you doing? Let's
Speaker 1: talk about you. Well, I actually tested positive for the
Speaker 1: novel coronavirus. Thank you. It's so it's so interesting that
Speaker 1: you and I are. I'm sorry to kind of no,
Speaker 1: but I love that we've all agreed as a culture
Speaker 1: that we will no longer use the well no, we
Speaker 1: will no longer use the valerie cherished, I got it.
Speaker 1: Or to announce that we have no no no, I'm
Speaker 1: saying it clearly because we need more clear information. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we're all saying. We need more clear information.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be as clear as day when
Speaker 1: I say I tested positive for the novel coronavirus parentheses
Speaker 1: O Macron's version, and I have to say I stand
Speaker 1: here and I've done a dance with the devil, and
Speaker 1: it has ended with us both bowing to each other
Speaker 1: and leaving the dance an honorable dance. It was an
Speaker 1: honorable dance she gave me. She gave me a tango
Speaker 1: dance with her. She doesn't let you out of her grip.
Speaker 1: She leads, she leads, you follow, and you think you
Speaker 1: lead in this. No, no, no no. There were two
Speaker 1: days where she had me shivering on the couch, doll.
Speaker 1: She had me shook, as Lisa Barlow would say, and
Speaker 1: we'll get into it, I'm literally shaking. That was that me,
Speaker 1: was me on the couch we should be using in
Speaker 1: order to signal that we have COVID. I'm shaking. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm literally shook. On the phone right now, COVID Test
Speaker 1: Center number six, honey. So we have both danced with
Speaker 1: the devil since our last episode, so much has happened.
Speaker 1: You had COVID, I had COVID. I had to cancel
Speaker 1: the whole rest of my shows. Do think about that?
Speaker 1: That was that did not feel good. Was a different
Speaker 1: world she got. She warped herself there at the end,
Speaker 1: and I think you and I ended it on a
Speaker 1: very lovely, enriching note in a very perfect place and
Speaker 1: a place that I think we love and are and
Speaker 1: are very connected to for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1: That was Mako City, Meko City, c Dmax. You know,
Speaker 1: it really came through. It really came through. We loved
Speaker 1: it all, didn't we. There's not much more to say
Speaker 1: say that. There was just so much too discover and enjoy.
Speaker 1: And if you had to give trip highlights, I think
Speaker 1: mine would probably be drinking in the canals. We drank
Speaker 1: at um yes Hochi milco um, perfect, perfect experience. Matt
Speaker 1: hadn't asked the Mariachi band if they knew any Beyonce,
Speaker 1: and I did ask them, and I was given the
Speaker 1: look I should have been given, and that the look
Speaker 1: that anyone should jet when they ask a mariachi band
Speaker 1: in Mexico do they know any Beyonce? It was less
Speaker 1: a thing of I legit wanted Bowen to ask, so
Speaker 1: that it was sort of will Bowen asked them, do
Speaker 1: you guys know Beyonce? And I just wish I had
Speaker 1: taped it, because he did, and he did receive a
Speaker 1: look similar to the one he is describing. The guy
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no, we don't. All right now,
Speaker 1: I'm holding up the gangar slash Hunter that Bowen. It's
Speaker 1: a stuffed animal pokemon that Bowen bought on the canals.
Speaker 1: It's actually I see what they're doing now. So it's
Speaker 1: a it's a haunter that looks suspicially suspiciously like an axlotl,
Speaker 1: which is native to Milo. But I think what they're
Speaker 1: doing is the feet are actually the hunter's hands, and
Speaker 1: then the thing at the side is just hunters the
Speaker 1: rest of Hunter's head. Oh wait, I hadn't looked at
Speaker 1: it like that before. Get a screen grab of this,
Speaker 1: because now now I want people to understand what we're
Speaker 1: looking at here. Okay, so these and these very much
Speaker 1: like its feet, but actually they're his hands. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know how Hunter looks like what Hunter looked like. You're
Speaker 1: so right. I hadn't thought about that before them anyway,
Speaker 1: it's really giving feet anyway, it's giving feet. The one
Speaker 1: bought that on the canal itself. People just will sort
Speaker 1: of row their boat up to the side of your
Speaker 1: your boat and make transactions. It's really a wild scene.
Speaker 1: It's a wild scene. And then other trip highlights included
Speaker 1: the food um, the neighborhoods, the history, and we went
Speaker 1: to Freeda's house. We went to Freeda's house. She suffered
Speaker 1: in her she suffered very much. And the museum is
Speaker 1: a testament sort of to her art. But also they
Speaker 1: really let you know she suffered. Yeah, this was the
Speaker 1: bad where she suffered, laid pussy up, yeah, and suffered
Speaker 1: and suffered. She suffered over here, she suffered over there.
Speaker 1: She suffered in the kitchen, she suffered in the living room,
Speaker 1: she suffered in the gardens. She suffered everywhere all around
Speaker 1: that house. Girl. But do you know what room I
Speaker 1: loved in that house? Tell me what room? The room
Speaker 1: where she took photographs of herself and then they put
Speaker 1: photos like she took selfies on beautiful film and she
Speaker 1: like it was they weren't selfies, but they were just
Speaker 1: like she posed for photographs in a way that was
Speaker 1: just like, Oh, that person has stark quality. She was
Speaker 1: that girl, you know what I mean? She even though
Speaker 1: she suffered so hard and so much, she's still managed
Speaker 1: to be that girl who is like that now, like
Speaker 1: someone who suffered, but it's still that girl. I want
Speaker 1: to say, Malala Malala, Yes, she definitely suffered in similar
Speaker 1: akin to Frieda, Patty Harrison. Patty Harrison has suffered, and
Speaker 1: she is that girl. She is that girl, she remains
Speaker 1: that girl. Who else, um, I would say, damn, I
Speaker 1: would say, you know, you know who Bradley Jackson, Bradley,
Speaker 1: these are all free as she and she still that
Speaker 1: girl that was top of mine. Because congratulations, congratulations to you,
Speaker 1: and will congratulate the third graders, but yes, go So
Speaker 1: the reason I found out that The Morning Show was
Speaker 1: getting renewed for a third season was because Bowen tagged
Speaker 1: me and the incredible website Instagram dot com, and I
Speaker 1: saw that I had attacked from him, and it was
Speaker 1: in I was tagged in the announcement that the Morning
Speaker 1: Show is going to be renewed for a season three.
Speaker 1: I put it on my story. I have never received
Speaker 1: this outpouring of support. I have never received this response
Speaker 1: from putting a story up. Everyone is in my d
Speaker 1: ms celebrating the third graders getting this new job. And
Speaker 1: I have to say, if I only knew that I
Speaker 1: had so much family out there that also watches The
Speaker 1: Morning Show, and if I can be even a conduit
Speaker 1: for them to experience this television, you have started a
Speaker 1: movement and not like we will continue this show for
Speaker 1: seasons four, season five. We're seeing them all the way through.
Speaker 1: We are going the distance. The third graders are no celebrating,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have questions and they're saying,
Speaker 1: the third graders become fourth graders. I think yes. The
Speaker 1: staff remains the same. They're not being held back. No
Speaker 1: the school like I'm saying, like in the school system,
Speaker 1: like no one and no administrators gonna think no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. They're very behind in math. No, they've not
Speaker 1: gone to a single math class this year. No, their
Speaker 1: careers started, thank you. Their career started when I started
Speaker 1: having incredible success. You're doing math. I wasn't doing math
Speaker 1: anymore to this height. Once I got to this height,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna see you. What are science Forget it?
Speaker 1: The third graders have started their professor stional careers. Drop
Speaker 1: everything and read more like drop everything and break this
Speaker 1: season right, more like drop everything and right because you've
Speaker 1: you've exemplified your talent and your gift. And they have
Speaker 1: a gift for storytelling. These writers, the way they break
Speaker 1: story is so crazy, and if you think for one
Speaker 1: second that end Just Like That isn't getting a second season.
Speaker 1: They might not be. You're deeply mistaken. No, you're deeply mistaken.
Speaker 1: And now there's been reports. You've seen the reports, right, well,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of these so called reports. Explained
Speaker 1: to me. Explain to me how we're not moving forward
Speaker 1: with the story. Carry Miranda and Charlotte explain similarly. On
Speaker 1: the Variety Instagram page, there was a whole grid post
Speaker 1: dedicated to this rumor that and Just Like That will
Speaker 1: not return for another season because of the christ no
Speaker 1: Ath allegations, which doesn't really that is the biggest of
Speaker 1: bullshit I've ever heard. So you you just you you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't believe it. The show will get
Speaker 1: a second season because everyone is in love with Jadas.
Speaker 1: There has never been a character there so so high impact.
Speaker 1: It really is, do you think do you think we're
Speaker 1: eating crow like since three weeks ago because we were
Speaker 1: over here being like j d As is awful. We
Speaker 1: can't stand this character between our legs saying cha is
Speaker 1: an icon? Is an icon? Well, here's the deal. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's not what it's it's like what Geogon famously says, Well,
Speaker 1: what you want to do is not necessarily what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do, And what you might want to do is
Speaker 1: say no, I don't like Chaya doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Jay is making everyone's life worse. I don't like anything
Speaker 1: to do with Chay. That might be what you want
Speaker 1: to say. What you're gonna do is watch cha. Shaddas
Speaker 1: has got their finger in Miranda's puss in their hand
Speaker 1: over America's mouth. Shut up, I'm here to say. And
Speaker 1: Shade Diaz is fingering the television audience. And I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, they have their fingers in all of our pussies. Oh,
Speaker 1: you have no idea how finger and I feel whenever
Speaker 1: Jay comes on the screen. It is so we watched
Speaker 1: the last episode together, not the most well. We watched
Speaker 1: one oh five we watched we watched the one that
Speaker 1: the one that counted one oh five Tragically Hip, Tragically Hip,
Speaker 1: which is kind of It's such a meta title. I
Speaker 1: just love that as a title. The titles have been
Speaker 1: giving I will say, okay, but the titles are making
Speaker 1: me question how much of this is like camp like
Speaker 1: in the way that it's like self aware about how
Speaker 1: like crazy it is what we have to stop and
Speaker 1: start realizing, is that this is not Sex in the City.
Speaker 1: It's its own I know, I know, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Sex in the City was too campy. It was fantastical,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm saying, and just like that is camp because
Speaker 1: we need you. I don't think you've talked about lt
Speaker 1: W and Charlotte's Internet sesame streets. So can you please
Speaker 1: explain this? Unfortunately, you actually will enjoy the show more.
Speaker 1: And I give this to the readers. And you know
Speaker 1: that I look out for you every single time, and
Speaker 1: so I want you to start committing to doing this.
Speaker 1: Every time Charlotte and lt W are in a scene together,
Speaker 1: watch it as if what you're watching is the television's
Speaker 1: program Sesame Street. It is. Simply, It's the only way
Speaker 1: you can explain away the reality that those two exist
Speaker 1: in is that they are muppets working together to teach
Speaker 1: us a lesson. I got you a latte. I got
Speaker 1: you a latte. Listen. I really want you to come
Speaker 1: to a party. I would love to go to your party.
Speaker 1: I love hanging out with you. Great. I feel the
Speaker 1: same way. I'm going to get a party together and
Speaker 1: invite you over the phone. Your husband will be there.
Speaker 1: He sure will, and your husband and I guess we
Speaker 1: should have guests, Um, the kids, Oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: about that. How about all their adults. It'll be an
Speaker 1: adult dinner party. All right, I'll call you my phone
Speaker 1: off to myself. Now, I don't want her to be
Speaker 1: the only black person there. I better invite another black person.
Speaker 1: It's just so you guys, they're there. Scenes are their dialogue,
Speaker 1: it's it's their dialogue in particular, but in the performance,
Speaker 1: and there is something about each of those actresses performing
Speaker 1: is that are like, what are you doing? First of
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I don't because I
Speaker 1: believe in Nicole are Parker. I believe in her more
Speaker 1: than what I'm seeing. I just hope that there is
Speaker 1: a shoe that gets to drop with lt W because
Speaker 1: you probably agree that scene or that episode where Charlotte
Speaker 1: realizes that this woman is going to be the only
Speaker 1: black person at her dinner party, and so she goes
Speaker 1: out of her way to invite a black person that
Speaker 1: that she knows like any old person to come there.
Speaker 1: And then when like Shenanigans happened Toot the episode, they
Speaker 1: sit down at lunch and she goes I invited that
Speaker 1: person I don't even like to my house because I
Speaker 1: didn't want you to be the only black person there.
Speaker 1: What lt W has to say is, oh, I think
Speaker 1: the same way about you protect trying to protect you
Speaker 1: as a white person. Oh l o L sip of
Speaker 1: RT scene ends as if a black person would ever
Speaker 1: react to that way. I was just like, uh, like,
Speaker 1: this is really just a chaotic cartoon in the world
Speaker 1: of Charlotte, and maybe it got a little bit better
Speaker 1: on this last episode, like there wasn't there wasn't much
Speaker 1: interaction between them though, No, not even with them. I've
Speaker 1: kind of moved on from from from them, like I
Speaker 1: just been in the world of Charlotte, like her dealing
Speaker 1: with her child's um, you know, impending transition here. I
Speaker 1: have no idea what I guess I want to say.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the show is for, but I
Speaker 1: actually know exactly who it's for, and it's just probably
Speaker 1: not for so many people that enjoyed sex in the
Speaker 1: city that it's kind of just like, all right, I
Speaker 1: guess we kind of just gotta move on from this one.
Speaker 1: This is what I said to you at one point,
Speaker 1: like I miss and I know this is not the
Speaker 1: reason you should watch any television show, but I miss
Speaker 1: when I would want to be like these women and
Speaker 1: like there's you know, nothing aspirational and that's okay and like,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like it was more fun to
Speaker 1: watch when I took these women seriously and the and
Speaker 1: the fact that like, and I told you as, I
Speaker 1: think one thing that could solve so many problems just
Speaker 1: for me personally, is if one of them was, like
Speaker 1: I like, uh, one of Carrie, Charlotte or Miranda gets
Speaker 1: fucking like dragged in the funniest way possible, like one
Speaker 1: on the show. Not I like these peripheral characters, but
Speaker 1: just like cussed out in the street by teenagers or
Speaker 1: something like something. And I don't know, Like I think
Speaker 1: it should be one of the new friends. And that
Speaker 1: kind of happened with um Seema and Carrie when they
Speaker 1: kind of got into it a little bit in the
Speaker 1: first episode that we met Seema, And I think that's
Speaker 1: the reason why that's the new friendship that's working for me,
Speaker 1: probably the best out of all them, because it feels
Speaker 1: like we've seen them go through something that's formative enough
Speaker 1: where I believe a relationship is earned. There with like
Speaker 1: Miranda and Dr Naya. Nothing about any of their interactions
Speaker 1: up to the point where they were having dinner getting
Speaker 1: really personal, was I like, yeah, I can buy this happening.
Speaker 1: It was only Miranda being a damn flop in class,
Speaker 1: just like putting like Naya in situations where she was
Speaker 1: made to be uncomfortable. And then of course there was
Speaker 1: that weird moment with the them the little chucky guy
Speaker 1: on the subway platform, but I don't know if that
Speaker 1: worked enough for me to believe like friendship between them. Also,
Speaker 1: why did Naya get the only scene in like the
Speaker 1: whole season so far, the only little like series of
Speaker 1: scenes where she's just fully separated, like there's no real
Speaker 1: connection to the core three women, Like it's just you
Speaker 1: see if we're going on a date, like a double
Speaker 1: date with you know, like this this this couple and
Speaker 1: then fucking her husband in the next scene like give
Speaker 1: her like a subplot, and it kind it was like
Speaker 1: this is episode six of the first season and she's
Speaker 1: just now kind of like they've cut to her family
Speaker 1: a couple of times, but never like this, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just wonder in the grand scheme of things, like
Speaker 1: what is that leading towards like how does that connect back?
Speaker 1: How does that connect back to the story, Like, are
Speaker 1: you just telling a story about this woman? Because if so,
Speaker 1: like just throwing her a scene every three episodes where
Speaker 1: that happens like and now we're only getting into an
Speaker 1: episode six is not like serving the character. It's just
Speaker 1: distracting from a narrative you're telling. And they are telling
Speaker 1: a story about Carrie, Miranda and Charlotte. That's the story
Speaker 1: that they're doing. So how is this all serving it?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? My theory is, Um, she
Speaker 1: ends up hanging surrogate and then Samantha and then she
Speaker 1: comes back. See, because this is the thing, this is
Speaker 1: the world of the third graders, is that it's sort
Speaker 1: of like do I almost wish Samantha would come in
Speaker 1: and be the surrogate? Yeah? I I will say out
Speaker 1: of the actresses, Karen Pittman, Oh, there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: with Karen Pittman. Everything right. The performances besides I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Kristin Davis and Um and then l TW like those
Speaker 1: are That's the only thing that I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: going on here? Like Miranda, Miranja and carry are giving
Speaker 1: you like pretty cool, grounded stuff for the most part.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say this, Miranda, Miranda Cynthia Nixon,
Speaker 1: definitely she read on the page. Miranda gets fingered in
Speaker 1: the kitchen and she said, okay, well, I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: that a moment for everyone's life times and she barked
Speaker 1: like a wolf into Sata Marez hand and she really
Speaker 1: barked like a wolf. That's really the only way you
Speaker 1: can describe the orgasm. Wolf bark, wolf bark wolf exorcism. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: The eyes are the freakiest part. It was horror film. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1: It's to to train. It was choose your train that
Speaker 1: had a zombie spirit. It was it was oh demon
Speaker 1: train you. You won't get that reference. Some of the
Speaker 1: readers will. Can I just shout out the readers. The
Speaker 1: publicists who I got to meet through Final Fantasy fourteen
Speaker 1: were the publicists playing the publicists. You have no idea
Speaker 1: how many of the publicists are like hardcore m m
Speaker 1: O RPG gaming right now, RP RP gaming whatever can
Speaker 1: they ball? I am. I'm horned up for some of
Speaker 1: these readers who like, we're helping me, giving me some items,
Speaker 1: some equipment. I was like, the generosity here is really
Speaker 1: earning me on. And I gotta say going on Twitch
Speaker 1: was very fun. I only kept I only went on
Speaker 1: Twitch when I had COVID. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: will go again, um, because I think to have a
Speaker 1: Twitch presence you need to be very consistent and I
Speaker 1: can't do that. But it was very fun to stream
Speaker 1: to like try on the streamer hat for a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a very fun community. People are very funny in
Speaker 1: the chat. Matthew, you don't know what you're missing. These
Speaker 1: readers have a lot of verve. Oh yes them, vigor
Speaker 1: verve them vigor verve and voracity. What is voracity? I
Speaker 1: feel like it's true, like the way something is truth
Speaker 1: is true? Which is which also applies? Are you looking
Speaker 1: it up? I can tell you are conformity to facts
Speaker 1: and accuracy. I just wanted to ye. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love I love calling the readers voracious. It's a
Speaker 1: different that's tho, racioust not the ra what is spelling really?
Speaker 1: And also I don't know, I don't people know. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to be I don't mean to be one
Speaker 1: of those people. I'm sorry you do to be that
Speaker 1: I've gotten better over time. When you agree, I don't
Speaker 1: care anymore about like sucking all that all that um
Speaker 1: when when I speak and the readers know in their
Speaker 1: heart what I mean, you are the most effective communicator,
Speaker 1: one of the most effective communicators in the world. You
Speaker 1: really are. I'm not joking. Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1: I try to be. You speak in people, your face
Speaker 1: and honest girl, countless times the world the world over.
Speaker 1: You are that. If anyone is v racious, it's my sister.
Speaker 1: Should the title of that be veracious but spelled voracious
Speaker 1: but spelled wrong? V I think we can we I mean,
Speaker 1: we might find another one. You're so right. I just
Speaker 1: want to quickly so that with that, Sorry, what were
Speaker 1: we doing before the Shadow? I just want to close
Speaker 1: a shout up by saying, I it was so fun
Speaker 1: to play Final Fantasy fourteen, which, oh my god, Matt,
Speaker 1: if you were a gamer, if you could sink in
Speaker 1: all these hours, it's some of the best storytelling I've
Speaker 1: ever witnessed in any medium. And walker Final Fantasy fourteen,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And there's just one villain in the
Speaker 1: last expansion. It's like it's better than Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: It's better than Game of Thrones in terms of telling
Speaker 1: a high fantasy story in a cohesive universe. Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones like, I don't know, like I just I feel
Speaker 1: like you lose the thread pretty easily. And for this,
Speaker 1: this game does the thing of making you hooked even
Speaker 1: as it develops more what never happens. Grace couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: Desperate Housewives couldn't do it. They flopped lost, flop lost,
Speaker 1: absolute flop and a half. So we don't even have
Speaker 1: to talk about it. And just like that anymore, I
Speaker 1: will say to keep things off on a positive, I
Speaker 1: think the acting is half incredible, like Cynthia. If you're
Speaker 1: going to be given that plot line, you gotta sell
Speaker 1: like Cynthia Nixon does, and she fucking did s j P.
Speaker 1: I'm just I could just watch or do annything and
Speaker 1: carry Carry is the best part of the show, which
Speaker 1: should should always be true, and at least that is true.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of the the ways that the show
Speaker 1: is trying to navigate one slash in a way that
Speaker 1: I don't think it needs to. That's like bothering. This
Speaker 1: is the thing I need to put out there, and
Speaker 1: I text to do this as well before I know,
Speaker 1: we want to end this on a positive now, and
Speaker 1: we will because we're watching, we're enjoying. But I texted
Speaker 1: you in that scene at the doctor's office with Jonathan Groth, like,
Speaker 1: remember his character kept doing like little asides that were like, well,
Speaker 1: my assistant finds that triggering or whatever the line was like,
Speaker 1: and then it was just like it was just all
Speaker 1: this stuff where it was like, I'm realizing that almost
Speaker 1: every scene in this show has this low frequency of
Speaker 1: like fear of saying the wrong thing, yeah, to an
Speaker 1: audience of people who like are much more sophisticated than
Speaker 1: any of the people in this world, where like, well,
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get canceled for wearing a sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's right, and it's it's it's distracting.
Speaker 1: It's so distracting and it really Yeah, it takes me
Speaker 1: out of it, and then I like, don't take these
Speaker 1: people seriously. I don't know. Yeah, I also part of
Speaker 1: me just wonders like, if this is the way you're
Speaker 1: going to flash them out into an hour long format,
Speaker 1: then maybe they're sitcom characters, you know, maybe maybe we're
Speaker 1: maybe we're just supposed to say, that's something I missed
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, is like that shorter twenty four
Speaker 1: minute bite that it was, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like the character's got to be got to come in
Speaker 1: and being a little bit more stock Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like if you're gonna flash out the characters like this
Speaker 1: and develop them like this and they're gonna act like Charlotte,
Speaker 1: it's like it just feels like cardboard versions of the
Speaker 1: characters that we knew, which is weird because they actually
Speaker 1: had the opportunity need to deepen them. Yes, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I'm I know it's not
Speaker 1: for me and probably a ton of people that watched it,
Speaker 1: but to be positive about it, it definitely is for
Speaker 1: certain people, you know what I mean, people having those
Speaker 1: late in life, you know, I opening moments about themselves
Speaker 1: and you know, generationally, like people like even though they're
Speaker 1: in there like you know, mid fifties, like finally stepping
Speaker 1: up for themselves and saying like, no, I'm unhappy, I
Speaker 1: need to take steps to make myself happy. Definitely, I
Speaker 1: think those things happen and are real and I'm happy.
Speaker 1: There's so depicting that especially for women like someone posted
Speaker 1: the other day, like, you know, there's women and the
Speaker 1: Golden Girls were like younger than the women and just
Speaker 1: like that, And isn't it great that we're like not
Speaker 1: treating them like old ladies, Like of course, but then again,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot of this is about how old
Speaker 1: they are, you know what I mean, Like STV falling
Speaker 1: apart at fifty five, and like people dying, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of doom, gloom and death. And I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I understand we're examining them at a different part of
Speaker 1: their age, but like, let's still have them be fun.
Speaker 1: And I think that there are glimpses of that in
Speaker 1: the show whenever they leave back the doom and cloom
Speaker 1: and let the characters have fun and discover their and
Speaker 1: fun vibrant ways that are fun to watch. You know,
Speaker 1: the show is cool, but when it's not like that,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of it, it just gets hard
Speaker 1: to watch. Speaking of Sesame Street, let's just really quickly
Speaker 1: change one of the best shows. We're not disrespecting oh yes,
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no no, no no no. We're saying
Speaker 1: it's sex and the city doesn't doesn't belong on in
Speaker 1: just like that. That's not all but totally thing, totally different.
Speaker 1: Now I want to just I just I want to
Speaker 1: bring this up because some of the readers wanted us
Speaker 1: to talk about this. But what do you think of
Speaker 1: this Elmo meltdown? Well, I'm team Elma all the way.
Speaker 1: We're team Elma all the way. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: like when you're when your friends, like you know, snaps,
Speaker 1: sometimes the only option is to support them, especially if
Speaker 1: they're correct. Look, here's here's the deal. So for people
Speaker 1: that don't know, Elmo and Zoe were doing a scene.
Speaker 1: They were doing a scene together. They were doing a
Speaker 1: scene and um, they were being filmed for the show
Speaker 1: Sesame Straight. And they were having lunch. They're having dinner.
Speaker 1: They were they were eating, they were joining together. From you,
Speaker 1: someone dropped off three cookies. Someone dropped off three cookies,
Speaker 1: so they were gonna sit down to eat the cookies.
Speaker 1: It's weird because there's a cookie in front of Zoe,
Speaker 1: a cookie in front of Elmo, and a cookie in
Speaker 1: front of this rock and Zoe is sort of referring
Speaker 1: to the Rock as rock Rock is sitting rock Rocco, Rocko, Rocko,
Speaker 1: the Rock is sitting there. He's sitting there. That's that's
Speaker 1: his cookie, she says. So Almo says, that's not his cookie,
Speaker 1: that's a rock. It can't eat the cookie. I would
Speaker 1: like to eat the cookie if there's no one else
Speaker 1: who wants it, if the cookie is just gonna sit there.
Speaker 1: Because certainly, certainly Elmo thinks, Rocko the Rock is not
Speaker 1: gonna eat this cookie, which so Zoe has the audacity
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, to get upset and be like,
Speaker 1: you can't eat this cookie. It's rock goes cookie. So no, Elmo,
Speaker 1: and I think you and I at home are like
Speaker 1: what world am I living in? Like are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: So he starts vocalizing that like it's a rock, Rocko
Speaker 1: the Rock isn't gonna eat the cookie, and he's getting upset.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get to eat the cookie? That is
Speaker 1: the craziest part of this whole thing. It's so twisted.
Speaker 1: Naturally this blew up and is now trending online. Does
Speaker 1: it happen on TV? It happened on TV, And this
Speaker 1: is what happens every day on the Real Housewives, I guess.
Speaker 1: But something about this is it's chilling because here's the Elmo.
Speaker 1: It's Elmo who is the Kyle Richards of Sesame Street.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like you are that's our protagonist. Okay,
Speaker 1: So there's no way you don't love her. And it's
Speaker 1: not that you don't love Zoe, it's just this is
Speaker 1: what this is the way I'm observing the relationship. Zoe
Speaker 1: needs a lot of help. Kim. She needs a lot
Speaker 1: of help. She's struggling. She's Kim and she really there's
Speaker 1: a time to be there for your good sister, and
Speaker 1: then there's a time to be like I have to
Speaker 1: call out the reality right now and Elmo actually in
Speaker 1: being honest and not allowing her to live in this
Speaker 1: fantasy that the rock is gonna get eaten by rock
Speaker 1: or the cookies gonna eat the get eaten by the way.
Speaker 1: It's just so stupid. By when I can't even get
Speaker 1: it out, I can tell you're frustrated, girl, work through
Speaker 1: it with the people need to hear this. You have
Speaker 1: to create a boundary between a person that believes a
Speaker 1: rock is anthropomorphic. You have to period, what is that
Speaker 1: gonna be our first rule culture? Yes, it's ruler culture
Speaker 1: number forty six. You have to create a boundary with
Speaker 1: a person who believe believes the rock. The rock has
Speaker 1: a presence. Presence absolutely, that is what culture is built around.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if we disagreed on this. I can't
Speaker 1: because you know why why You and I would never
Speaker 1: be Zoe to each other, or you and I would
Speaker 1: be almost to the other who was being a Zoe.
Speaker 1: I would hope you would be an Almo to me
Speaker 1: if I was talking so crazy that I said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: bowen and to get upset with you. You can't eat this,
Speaker 1: A rock is going to eat it. I hope you
Speaker 1: would be Almo to me in that situation, that circumstance.
Speaker 1: The line read of Elmo saying, he's yeah, it's panic,
Speaker 1: it's he's pissed off. Can we just say, like, I
Speaker 1: believe that things are going to come to blows? When
Speaker 1: I see that scene, I'm like, someone has to someone
Speaker 1: has to step in here. Where are the producers? Were
Speaker 1: are the producers? Bravo? Bravo, fucking Almo. Something is going
Speaker 1: on with Elmo and the culture. Just in joy, I
Speaker 1: would love for Elmo to come on the podcast. If
Speaker 1: Elmo came on and we just have a real conversation
Speaker 1: with him, but what exactly the deal is there because
Speaker 1: it seems toxic, unbelievably toxic. It's getting to him in
Speaker 1: terms of like he's now he's acting out on other
Speaker 1: TV shows like the whole balsamic vinegar thing on the
Speaker 1: Tonight Show is like, really, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on there. We won't be creative for you, but everyone should.
Speaker 1: Everyone should go look up Elmo pronouncing polsamic vinegar if
Speaker 1: you haven't already, it's he's, he's, he's he's unraveling. I
Speaker 1: think that it's best to turn our attention to the situation.
Speaker 1: And and because it's not him, it's the it's the
Speaker 1: people that he's around. It's very Truman Show. I think
Speaker 1: what's happening with Elmo because there are people there that
Speaker 1: allows Zoe to exist with just kind of spouting this
Speaker 1: conspiracy that Rocko the rock would need to be able
Speaker 1: to eat that cookie if you even wanted it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and we're talking about the feelings of a cookie.
Speaker 1: I mean there's a huge problem. That's like, what is
Speaker 1: that stage mom behavior, Zoe? What if Rocco doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be on camera. I think that even now you're
Speaker 1: you're going too far, You're going too far and even
Speaker 1: approaching the fact that that rock could have any feelings
Speaker 1: at all. And don't scare thank you and see, this
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Don't. I will always keep you
Speaker 1: on Earth, girl, girl, I will step in to say
Speaker 1: you are being crazy. And it doesn't matter if I'm
Speaker 1: looking around saying I don't like it here on Earth,
Speaker 1: you go No, honey, it doesn't matter you're staying. I
Speaker 1: have to tell you. I'm rewatching Jersey right now. A
Speaker 1: lot of old real house eyes in New Jersey, and
Speaker 1: I found the Everyone's like, what house life for you?
Speaker 1: What house if for you? I found Who are you?
Speaker 1: I'm Dolores, I am not familiar. I'm Dolores Catania. And
Speaker 1: all you have to do is watch and you've always
Speaker 1: been Renna though you you switch it. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you something, Arena? This is what Arinna does. If Zoe
Speaker 1: turns to Renna and says the rock, the rock is
Speaker 1: gonna eat the cookie, Here's what Renda does. Okay, and
Speaker 1: she goes to her girlfriends and it's like, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna believe what she's saying. Now she is gonna take
Speaker 1: it so far. And I would never do that. I
Speaker 1: would say to you as Alma, I'd be like, it's
Speaker 1: a rock. I don't know. The way the way Renna
Speaker 1: supported Erica through all of this makes me believe that
Speaker 1: if if Zoe were to go to Renna and was like,
Speaker 1: it's a rock, it's a it's a it's an anthropomorphic rock.
Speaker 1: This rock like wants to eat cookies, Brenna would be like,
Speaker 1: absolutely it does. Of course it does, Babe. I'm like,
Speaker 1: get out. We don't need that in the world. Stop. Stop,
Speaker 1: stops what you're doing right now. I have to tell
Speaker 1: you something. What you're giving me Erica with their yeah,
Speaker 1: what does that mean you're giving me? Or what? Or
Speaker 1: what what you're giving me in your new hair and
Speaker 1: your blonde, shocking hair, you actually give me powerful, dangerous
Speaker 1: Erica Jane energy because I thought to myself, if I'm Rna,
Speaker 1: then his bowen and then I had to gasp, had
Speaker 1: to go. I was afraid when I gasped, because I
Speaker 1: saw a newer We're not criminals. She created a caper.
Speaker 1: We are Meredith and Lisa. I don't know we're I
Speaker 1: think we're Erica and Renna. You're at Lisa because Lisa
Speaker 1: can't help herself and as someone who is ultimately so
Speaker 1: lovable and wonderful, and you have to watch. I I
Speaker 1: am fully team Lisa right now, but I'm Meredith, and
Speaker 1: that I am like probably a little crazy, even though
Speaker 1: I keep up like a cool demeanor, cool exterior, collected exterior.
Speaker 1: I had great And you'll all notice at home that
Speaker 1: we've sort of arrived at the topic of the Real
Speaker 1: Housewives of Salt Lake City. And that was by design.
Speaker 1: That was that wasn't em I think we're naturally going
Speaker 1: from one subject, but in the naturalness of it that
Speaker 1: it was by design. Because here we are, and I
Speaker 1: want to say that Mary Cosby has left the world stage.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say as a book end,
Speaker 1: because we famously said, what day two of the twelve
Speaker 1: Days of Culture, Miriam Cosby February something, November something two,
Speaker 1: Miriam Cosby hits the world stage. It's the world stage
Speaker 1: sort of January left. She has decided to exit the
Speaker 1: world stage by not showing up to the Real House
Speaker 1: of Salt Lake City reunion. This news has hit the
Speaker 1: major media outlets, and I think that we can agree
Speaker 1: that Salt Lake the same. Because Ding Dong of the
Speaker 1: Witch is dead. We say, Ding Dong lost culture is
Speaker 1: just calling no Darling ding the way which is dead
Speaker 1: I had been saying. I mean, this is obviously satisfying
Speaker 1: for me as someone who's been saying for a while
Speaker 1: it's no longer been fun to watch her. What do
Speaker 1: you think Why do you think she decided not to come.
Speaker 1: I think because season she realized that she was going
Speaker 1: to basically be sat down and confronted about being a
Speaker 1: quote unquote racist in her case. I'm guessing like it's
Speaker 1: and about the church stuff. She's just she's just incredibly
Speaker 1: prejudiced person, and like she I think like she probably
Speaker 1: can't answer for the way that her church members are treated.
Speaker 1: She probably can't answer for almost anything she has said
Speaker 1: or done, all of which have been negative, because she
Speaker 1: acts as if she either is the most forgetful person
Speaker 1: in the world or that it's something to do with
Speaker 1: how ye're perceiving her. I don't know, I'm just literally
Speaker 1: blabbing on and on. But no, no, no, I'm very cosby.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, there's just every reason why she had
Speaker 1: to go. But I do think it's interesting that it
Speaker 1: really was us who sort of raised the flags for
Speaker 1: her in the first place. And really welcome to her
Speaker 1: into culture. And I think that there's a lot to
Speaker 1: examine in our Absolutely. I will also take some credit
Speaker 1: in us being some of the first, absolutely some of
Speaker 1: the first people to say, hey, there's something going on here.
Speaker 1: The tree is there, the tree is falling. Do you
Speaker 1: hear it? Do you hear it? And it's really important
Speaker 1: that we all agree that we did, because if one
Speaker 1: person says I didn't hear it, then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we're living in a world there's two realities because people
Speaker 1: they just they believe whatever they want to They believe
Speaker 1: whatever they want to believe. If someone says, I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that tree do a fully inaccurate, yet insane Asian
Speaker 1: accent impression, that really was something. Huh. It was kind
Speaker 1: of shocking. I'm not like shocked by that, ever, when
Speaker 1: someone does like, quote unquote an accent like that when
Speaker 1: they attempt to, but there was something so like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you're gonna do that here. It was so
Speaker 1: it was so it was truly shocking. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no other word for it. And I'm not terribly shocked. Usually, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really was shocking. And I also think you'd have
Speaker 1: to believe so much about Mary's reality in order to
Speaker 1: buy anything she says, because she knows she's being put
Speaker 1: on camera, you know what I mean. Like, when she
Speaker 1: decides to do these things like, she does them, not
Speaker 1: just because she doesn't forget the cameras are around, She's
Speaker 1: thinking about what she's going to project, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, and the fact that she can so
Speaker 1: easily go these places just says to me, like, actually,
Speaker 1: this is a harmful person. This person doesn't care how
Speaker 1: people feel. She to me, is in her just social interactions,
Speaker 1: in the way that she manages conflict. Obviously someone who
Speaker 1: doesn't care about anyone other than herself. So if this
Speaker 1: is true, what else is true? She obviously is mistreating
Speaker 1: members of her church. You see what kind of person
Speaker 1: she is. She's a dangerous, toxic person who takes no
Speaker 1: accountability and will do anything to get just something she
Speaker 1: wants the w at the end of the day. And
Speaker 1: it's just like for me, she is you know, it
Speaker 1: was interesting to watch someone who is that sociopathic. But
Speaker 1: I'm good not doing it anymore. Exit Exit Mary, which
Speaker 1: is maybe that's time I love him to be honest.
Speaker 1: Speaking of dead, Oh wow, that could go into such
Speaker 1: a dark night. I just was I was literally just
Speaker 1: trying to make a stupid segue of the power of
Speaker 1: the dog. And then I did remember in saying it
Speaker 1: that so many iconic people have passed away, and I felt, no,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of a lot of people. Betty White,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that one hurts. That one hurts. For
Speaker 1: some reason, there was a the algorithm gave me a
Speaker 1: YouTube clip that was Betty and Lucille Ball playing password together,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, Lucile doesn't give a ship
Speaker 1: and hates that she's there, but Betty is, like, it's crazy,
Speaker 1: how even on a game shot, like a stupid game
Speaker 1: show like that, she was like a fucking legend icon
Speaker 1: There's no overstating it. She No, she was, I mean,
Speaker 1: such a giant for such a long time, and you know,
Speaker 1: truly one of those people where across the bord appeal,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one of those last
Speaker 1: messages of a time when that was even possible. And
Speaker 1: think about if you were a star that early on.
Speaker 1: And we know how far the entertainment industry has come
Speaker 1: and how far it still needs to go in terms of,
Speaker 1: like you know, the treatment of women, the treatment of
Speaker 1: so many people. She had to have seen so fucking much.
Speaker 1: She had to have truly survived a lot, and to
Speaker 1: have that many lives in this industry is like, so
Speaker 1: you know, unprecedented. I mean what she's started in like
Speaker 1: the forties, like like basically like right as Hollywood like
Speaker 1: became Hollywood did even like like you know, like maybe
Speaker 1: like twenty years ago, someone twenty years older than her,
Speaker 1: her senior like would have been there like as Hollywood
Speaker 1: was starting up, but like she kind of like got
Speaker 1: in right when it started to like be established in
Speaker 1: a way already. Does that make sense? I think she
Speaker 1: was the first woman to ep a television show. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah and she and yeah like and her earliest sitcoms
Speaker 1: were like just live TV because it was just like
Speaker 1: how TV worked back then. I mean, Betty Bob Sagett
Speaker 1: really shocked me. That was a bummer, um, like and
Speaker 1: talk about someone who, like, I mean, he was really
Speaker 1: talented because I think about like so many of the
Speaker 1: reasons why you fell in love with full House have
Speaker 1: to do with how sweet and gentle he was as
Speaker 1: a figure of fatherhood, and how patient he was and
Speaker 1: how communicative he was, and that was a really sweet
Speaker 1: show that succeeded so much due to his specific talent,
Speaker 1: and then to find out that he was so the
Speaker 1: opposite when he wasn't doing that to me, just that
Speaker 1: I don't know I did that. That's inspiring to me,
Speaker 1: Like someone who was able to really um channel different
Speaker 1: energies and just a great entertainer who like never got
Speaker 1: painted into a corner. I mean, like, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: Like it's not even about that, it's just about like
Speaker 1: someone who embodies two different, diametrically opposite things. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: terms of presenting themselves as an entertainer, and like he
Speaker 1: was just so good at both of those, which probably
Speaker 1: he was good at all of it. Yeah, he seemed
Speaker 1: very very well mannered to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like he's like he knew that the full house thing
Speaker 1: was a joke. He just seemed like Sydney. I mean, Damn,
Speaker 1: I can't believe going through death. Nobody's been here. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot, and it's been a bummer, like and
Speaker 1: especially because it doesn't seem like, um, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's well know and it's also it's not people that
Speaker 1: pop culturally, you like barely knew you know, these are
Speaker 1: like legends and well defined people in the public consciousness,
Speaker 1: Like you know, Sydney Potter is a legend and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say Joan Didian, like I just absolutely and like
Speaker 1: Babbit's like, I mean, there's got so many so many
Speaker 1: crazy not crazy, just like wild, shocking not shocking. I'm
Speaker 1: stone everybody, Um, just really like I don't know, sad
Speaker 1: sad departures. Yeah, did you watch Being the Product? You did?
Speaker 1: I did? Okay, what did you think of this film? Um?
Speaker 1: I think you and I share a lot of the
Speaker 1: same opinions that I actually didn't mind the writing. I
Speaker 1: thought the writing was very fun and buoyant for an
Speaker 1: Errand's working movie. The direction was the thing that was
Speaker 1: most confusing, because I was like just down to like,
Speaker 1: I don't notice direction that much, quote unquote the way
Speaker 1: that a lot of people do. Like I think you
Speaker 1: are someone who watched his film, and it is like
Speaker 1: whoa Like I can tell what the invisible hand here is.
Speaker 1: But I watched Being the Ricardo's and I was like,
Speaker 1: why the fund is he on a wide this insane
Speaker 1: wide of Lucy while she's just talking like dirty, like
Speaker 1: over the shoulder too you know, Javier, Like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is going on here? How did the movie? How
Speaker 1: did this movie come together? And like post you know
Speaker 1: that's the thing that is confounding me the best. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think in terms of the direction that there was
Speaker 1: like half of it that I thought really worked. Like
Speaker 1: I ultimately walked away from that movie thinking it was
Speaker 1: a really smart, uh examination of a relationship, like a
Speaker 1: relationship study if you will. Um, I definitely like felt
Speaker 1: every beat of their relationships. So in that way, like
Speaker 1: in terms of how you tell a story, like I
Speaker 1: was getting that there were some choices of you know,
Speaker 1: shots or devices that I just thought, do we need this?
Speaker 1: Like and I'm talking about the entire device of the
Speaker 1: cutting back like from the interviews, so that I just
Speaker 1: did not think we needed that. And it was surprising
Speaker 1: because it's almost like there's a starter movie or a
Speaker 1: starter script that has that device and then at some
Speaker 1: point it gets taken away because you just simply don't
Speaker 1: need it. He's stuck with it the whole of the
Speaker 1: whole way through. Sure did and um, I don't think
Speaker 1: we needed that. And then there were some moments where
Speaker 1: I don't know and just because he wrote and directed
Speaker 1: it like I think you noticed this, and maybe it
Speaker 1: just doesn't get the note. But there's some things where
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so you're saying that the way. One
Speaker 1: of the ways we see she's a comedic genius is
Speaker 1: she knows to like flip the scene so that the
Speaker 1: comedy is facing the audience, like you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: there's this big thing where she calls everyonmard to the
Speaker 1: studio and she's like, we're staging the dinner scene and
Speaker 1: she basically turns their chairs so she's like, actually, you're
Speaker 1: gonna face the audience when you do the bid and
Speaker 1: that will fix everything. And everyone's like, Lucy really are
Speaker 1: a genius And I'm sitting there like something better than this.
Speaker 1: Guy's something better than this. This is something that I
Speaker 1: that I think we notice as we watch more things
Speaker 1: is that it's very hard to call someone a comedic
Speaker 1: genius in a show or a movie and then exemplify
Speaker 1: it because it's it's just does that make sense? Like
Speaker 1: it makes sense? It's so hard when you're being told
Speaker 1: as an audience, remember that, um, this person is an
Speaker 1: icon and what they do. Yeah, not but specifically with comedy, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: like this person is the funniest, smartest person there ever was,
Speaker 1: and then you do it limited to the to like
Speaker 1: the restraints of like a film or a screenplayer, a teleplay,
Speaker 1: like it's just it's hard. I can't think of times
Speaker 1: when that's been done effectively. That being said, Nicole, Nicole
Speaker 1: was amazing, does command herself well to that. And I
Speaker 1: will say, ultimately, I actually really like this movie, and
Speaker 1: I think it would be really hard not to vote
Speaker 1: for her for Best Actress because she just the the
Speaker 1: order was so tall. I mean this, the odds were
Speaker 1: so stacked against her, and you leave that movie and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Nicole Kimmant is a fucking star. And if
Speaker 1: I have one note for her, it's one that I
Speaker 1: saw pointed out which I can't stop thinking about now
Speaker 1: that I've thought out of it, is that when Lucy
Speaker 1: was performing, her eyes were bigger and more expressive, and
Speaker 1: there was just something internal that came out through her
Speaker 1: eyes that I wasn't necessarily getting with Nicole. That being said,
Speaker 1: she acted the funk out of that script and gave
Speaker 1: you her speaking voice and gave you so much against
Speaker 1: everyone saying she was the worst choice for Rice. So
Speaker 1: I respect the house down, we love her, we love
Speaker 1: Nicole Kittman here. Um I didn't. I never watched Child
Speaker 1: in Chicago seven. I didn't see Molly's Game either. But
Speaker 1: I feel like I like Sorkin movies where it's about
Speaker 1: relationships instead of about a person. Like Steve Jobs. I
Speaker 1: don't remember a single thing about that movie because it's
Speaker 1: about like how Steve Jobs was an egomaniac, and like
Speaker 1: it wasn't about his the way he related to other people,
Speaker 1: and that's why, like it just doesn't register to me.
Speaker 1: But like Social Network is one of my favorite movies
Speaker 1: absolutely because it's about how this person is an egomaniac
Speaker 1: but is so bad at interacting with every single person
Speaker 1: who cares about him, you know. Like that, I like
Speaker 1: that that movie also had an incredible director. And that's
Speaker 1: not saying that Aaron Sorkin isn't a good director, because
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of what he does that
Speaker 1: is effective. But some scripts, I think I would have
Speaker 1: just really been interested to see what another director could
Speaker 1: have done with this script, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know I took I took issue at
Speaker 1: first with them the day sex Machina thing, in the
Speaker 1: end of Jay Grew Hoover calling, but apparently that actually happened.
Speaker 1: It don't actually happened. But also there is something in
Speaker 1: that day sex Makina like that in the way it
Speaker 1: feels in the moment, yeah you do, you are like
Speaker 1: a little bit like yeah, yeah, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I loved, I loved, I didn't love. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I like I put it on because during when the
Speaker 1: virus was like peeking in me, I was like, I
Speaker 1: might as well watch this movie. And I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of love. I love
Speaker 1: Nina Arianda and as of yes, mean is wonderful or
Speaker 1: as Vandvance who played Ethel, but she she was amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean j K. Simmons was great, like and fucking
Speaker 1: Javier bar Dam was great, wonderful, wonderful. But we we
Speaker 1: have talked about power of the dog. We have talked
Speaker 1: about power of the dog. Let's talk about power of
Speaker 1: the dog. Girl. See, this is the thing is it's
Speaker 1: like this is written and directed by Jane Campion, and
Speaker 1: that woman knows how to draw a fucking line through
Speaker 1: a story, and like, so I love this and from
Speaker 1: the very first moment that the when the when the
Speaker 1: screen cuts the black and the score begins that like
Speaker 1: it sounds like it sounds like a rope is being tightened, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't think that, and I'm this is I'm up
Speaker 1: to twice. But when I'm in my set in the
Speaker 1: middle of my second time watching it, it's better. The
Speaker 1: second time is brilliant. So like the tension starts right away,
Speaker 1: and then he has that voiceover. First of all, Twink
Speaker 1: doesn't even begin to describe him like he's more than that.
Speaker 1: He is super Twink. He's murdered Twink. He's murdered Twink.
Speaker 1: But I think he's I think he's not even like Twin.
Speaker 1: I think there's something, there's another there's something we're missing here.
Speaker 1: But keep going. Well, he is, he's impact. So he
Speaker 1: says in the opening monologue, he goes, it's my job
Speaker 1: to protect my mother. What kind of man would I
Speaker 1: be if I didn't protect my mother? Or what kind
Speaker 1: of sun would I be if I didn't my mother?
Speaker 1: Something like that. So and then the movie starts, and
Speaker 1: from this when you know what happens in the movie
Speaker 1: and how the plot unfolds, This is a brilliant script.
Speaker 1: This is a brilliant movie, like Jane Campion and and
Speaker 1: just talk about like a tall order in terms of direction,
Speaker 1: those scenes with the cattle, the atmosphere, the fact that
Speaker 1: they felt like the only people in the world the
Speaker 1: whole movie, like the vastness of the where they live,
Speaker 1: but also the small, intimate nature of the house. Like
Speaker 1: the perform says, you and I re enacted, We're not
Speaker 1: going to do this. Well, we can if you want,
Speaker 1: but you and I reenacted Kirston at the piano because
Speaker 1: that is I see, I've forgotten how to play Kirston
Speaker 1: deserves it is her time. It is her time. I
Speaker 1: was listening to her own Fresh Air today and this
Speaker 1: is like from an episode weeks ago, but like it
Speaker 1: just her her process with this movie is she's being
Speaker 1: so generous with like what she's telling you know, what
Speaker 1: she's saying in interviews about like how she approached this character.
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much and does that so stupid? I
Speaker 1: know about like what when it I just just how
Speaker 1: someone does their job effectively. Just in general, she's she's
Speaker 1: giving a glimpse into her process. It's she's so good
Speaker 1: in this it's crazy. Yeah, you've mentioned the dream work
Speaker 1: that she says she does. I think that's fascinating, and
Speaker 1: you know, like just the relationship she discusses having on
Speaker 1: set with Benedict, who I did drag did I don't
Speaker 1: think so, Honey for being um, you know method on
Speaker 1: set to the point where he didn't shower and had
Speaker 1: to keep away from everyone on set. But I think
Speaker 1: Kirsten wanted was avoiding him. I think that she was
Speaker 1: really smart and the way she played it where it's
Speaker 1: just atmospherically, she was not allowing him into her space
Speaker 1: so that when she saw him, he was truly imposing
Speaker 1: and scared her and made her anxious. And it reads
Speaker 1: so clearly like how trapped this woman is and how
Speaker 1: steadily more trapped she feels throughout the movie. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that ropes out the score. Yeah, the score should
Speaker 1: win the just how tight they make the atmosphere feel
Speaker 1: for her, because the movie is about her anxiety. The
Speaker 1: movie is about how she is a she is a
Speaker 1: like about to burst, she was about to break. Yes,
Speaker 1: the way the scene is cut together, I guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: if I can tell that it's like really good direction
Speaker 1: on the same token is like if I can tell
Speaker 1: that it's bad direction, then it's bad. If I can tell,
Speaker 1: if I can tell it's good, it's good because I'm stupid.
Speaker 1: The scene where she's practicing the piano as he's playing
Speaker 1: the banjo, I'm like, this is incredible, just so scary,
Speaker 1: and she's and they're both performing it so well. Yeah. Oh,
Speaker 1: She's like, look, it looks so weak at the piano,
Speaker 1: not weak, but just like vulnerable, and she's just like
Speaker 1: trying to like learn this defeat defeated. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean like she she truly you genuinely. I mean, the
Speaker 1: movie doesn't work if it's not a battle for her life.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, her son and her new
Speaker 1: brother in law are like literally at the end of
Speaker 1: the movie, basically faced with they're on different sides of
Speaker 1: the agreement of whether she should be happy or unhappy,
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, like and just the
Speaker 1: way that the ending unfolds. Cody Smith McPhee. He's been
Speaker 1: winning everything in terms of the critics awards, Like he
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a performance you will always remember.
Speaker 1: You will never forget him in this movie, Like it's
Speaker 1: just a boy, You'll never forget. The hula hooping. The
Speaker 1: specificity of that decision, like so much of it was
Speaker 1: so like he made little paper flowers, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I'm just like, this movie is
Speaker 1: his movie is about a fagot. It is a faget
Speaker 1: and the women they worship. Yes, honey, a fagot and
Speaker 1: his mother. That's what's what should be called? Is that
Speaker 1: I how to a fagot and his mother? Faggot? It
Speaker 1: should be called Power of the Dog and his Mother.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we'll be getting so much trouble. No,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Anyways, that movie was something. I need
Speaker 1: to watch it again. I've been meaning to um Jesse too.
Speaker 1: Jesse was great, Oh fab Jesse Plemons is he's such
Speaker 1: a good actor. I mean just everyone from top to bottom.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, like just this every decision that
Speaker 1: they made, and I love when the score really feels
Speaker 1: atmosphere like and that's so it's it's such an amazing
Speaker 1: tool that I wish more movies would get more risky
Speaker 1: with in terms of how to um strengthen the story.
Speaker 1: Like I just it's I don't know, I just love
Speaker 1: that element of it all. Did you feel as though
Speaker 1: the Lost Daughter gave you as much excitement and passion.
Speaker 1: I was very anxious. Another movie about anxious woman. It
Speaker 1: is anxious times. It is anxious times, and literally Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy fourteen is about like the world ending, and it
Speaker 1: in a way that it's so like visceral and scary,
Speaker 1: not like oh Apocalypse anyway. I'm just saying like there's
Speaker 1: just a lot of like anxious content out there. I tried.
Speaker 1: I tried to start Station eleven, and I just need
Speaker 1: to I just need to go back to it at
Speaker 1: some point. But I know it's brilliant and I know
Speaker 1: it's wonderful and that and Tira Mariah is the genius,
Speaker 1: but I need to just like not watch that, especially
Speaker 1: after having watched Don't Look Up. Um okay, but sorry,
Speaker 1: Lost Daughter. I really enjoyed it, loved I loved it.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was Dakota at the end, you
Speaker 1: were Dakota. She she just is my favorite type of
Speaker 1: character in the film. Yeah, angry hot girl. She was
Speaker 1: gorgeous in that. She was so beautiful in it. It
Speaker 1: was so shocking and like, yes, you get it because
Speaker 1: Olivia Coleman is there and you're like, yeah, that is
Speaker 1: the girl. You stare out at the beach that is
Speaker 1: the girl, like you know, and then when she comes
Speaker 1: over and is like giving her attention, It's like it
Speaker 1: is a little like part of me was like a
Speaker 1: little like it was like a little psycho sexual for me.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like living. I really enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just repeating myself. But like the so
Speaker 1: apparently the end ending is different from the book. Huh.
Speaker 1: So in the end she like spoiler alert, Oh people
Speaker 1: make it mad. Well, I just let me just say
Speaker 1: that the endings are different, um, but that the dull
Speaker 1: missing really was giving me anxiety up to up to
Speaker 1: the Favorite Pitch and in the in the in the climb,
Speaker 1: and just in the in the sort of ending moments
Speaker 1: of the movie. Well, something really smart that I thought
Speaker 1: that Maggie Gillenhal did in order to create tension and
Speaker 1: like irritation in every scene is in the In this
Speaker 1: Anatomy of Seeing that that I watched on YouTube, she
Speaker 1: was talking about how like the crying of the babies,
Speaker 1: like the volume was never lowered, so like in the
Speaker 1: scenes where like this the girls around and crying, you
Speaker 1: hear it the whole time because it's like really important
Speaker 1: in the movie that you understand like what it genuinely
Speaker 1: is to be around a child and the responsibility of
Speaker 1: being like sort of like irritated by that noise, but
Speaker 1: responsible for that noise. May never want to have a child.
Speaker 1: And I think that that was just I think Maggie
Speaker 1: Jillen Hall fucking knocked this out of the part. She
Speaker 1: is amazing and I can't wait to see more from
Speaker 1: her as a as a writer and director. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on Slam, which she wrote. Yes, it's based on
Speaker 1: it's based on novel. But I mean, so she's she's
Speaker 1: probably what's what else is adapted going to be? She's
Speaker 1: certainly getting a words attention. Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: she will be nominated west Side will be nominated for
Speaker 1: adapted of course. Yes, well, she has the Best Director
Speaker 1: nomination from the Golden Globe Awards. She didn't win, but
Speaker 1: she is, like in that conversation. But in terms of
Speaker 1: adapted screenplay, yeah, I mean I think Power of the
Speaker 1: Dog is winning. Oh it was a book. Yeah, Oh
Speaker 1: I didn't. Oh that's right, I knew this. I knew this. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's an adapted screenplay but anyway, um, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then original is interesting. I mean, Don't Look Up is
Speaker 1: definitely in that kind presition, as is being the Ricardo's
Speaker 1: what did you feel about Don't Look Up? People are
Speaker 1: polar raw polarized. I didn't hate it because I was
Speaker 1: led to believe that it was like one of the
Speaker 1: worst films ever made. But but then we're talking about online.
Speaker 1: I watched it and the only big thing that bumps
Speaker 1: me out is, well, you know, it's that thing where
Speaker 1: I hate This sounds so annoying, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: like people say, like satire is not effective. Saturny is
Speaker 1: like a clarity of purpose and a clear target. Otherwise
Speaker 1: it just contributes to the thing that it's trying to satirize.
Speaker 1: I think that's textbook what this movie kind of like
Speaker 1: falls into, where it's like it's being very cynical about
Speaker 1: the cynicism of people, like and the way it shows
Speaker 1: people cynicism is very cynical, and so therefore it just
Speaker 1: contributes to the cynicism. And so you watch the movie
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to and I know you're supposed to
Speaker 1: feel like really bummed, like bummed oo, but um, I
Speaker 1: just think there was no like the way it was
Speaker 1: a political to me, made it have note teeth, and
Speaker 1: I think I'm sure it wasn't Anima Kay's decision. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he got notes where it was like you can't
Speaker 1: alienate like a political party here. But performances were fun.
Speaker 1: Um totally, it was kind of a mess, Like I
Speaker 1: kind of I think I really enjoyed the parts were
Speaker 1: like it felt like a broad comedy, like when are
Speaker 1: like during orian a song and like the lyrics being
Speaker 1: so ridiculous. I'm like, see, like now it feels like
Speaker 1: an old Adam McCay movie that I love to watch,
Speaker 1: And why can't it be more like that instead of this,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, um dramatically or just totally tense,
Speaker 1: convoluted thing. Yeah, I think that it could have like basically,
Speaker 1: you'll agree with me when I say it just didn't
Speaker 1: really have any heart, and so that made it hard.
Speaker 1: And I completely understand in a script where you know,
Speaker 1: characters are that cardboard, where that would be fine and like,
Speaker 1: you know, we could sort of move through this as
Speaker 1: a satire. But I also thought that there were moments
Speaker 1: where we could have cared about the characters, or maybe
Speaker 1: they wanted us to care about the characters and I
Speaker 1: just never got there for any of them. I think
Speaker 1: by the numbers, I think that script like it definitely
Speaker 1: did what it was setting out to do. It definitely made,
Speaker 1: you know, made me think yes. But also these are things,
Speaker 1: of course I've already thought about a million times. I
Speaker 1: feel like we've made this assessment before. But that could
Speaker 1: just be because the media landscape is different now, and
Speaker 1: we feel like Twitter, you know, it's so hard to
Speaker 1: be on top of it that it was just kind
Speaker 1: of impossible for this movie to be like exactly on
Speaker 1: the nose, like nailed it um and so, you know,
Speaker 1: admirable try. But the thing is, I guess I just
Speaker 1: wish I cared more about the characters ultimately, because I
Speaker 1: certainly was laughing. I mean, maybe it could have been
Speaker 1: just a punched up a little bit, but I definitely
Speaker 1: thought a lot of it was funny. I mean when
Speaker 1: they when they made big choices, like, I was down
Speaker 1: for it. I just wonder if there's a fucking incredible
Speaker 1: movie like hidden somewhere. I know there, I'm sure there was. Weirdly, like,
Speaker 1: my favorite scene was like Leo and Cape Lan chat
Speaker 1: like talking postcoital that first time. Yeah, Okay, let's like
Speaker 1: share details about I mean, like yeah, like that's like
Speaker 1: why that Why is that coming like an hour into
Speaker 1: the movie or whatever? Like why can this have been
Speaker 1: much sooner? I know a single thing about Leo's character.
Speaker 1: It was forty minutes too long, too, Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean that's pretty much a note I have for almost
Speaker 1: everything is forty minutes too long. That's the number it
Speaker 1: really is for you. And it's giving forty even for
Speaker 1: the TV shows, the proportion it doesn't proportionize, it's still
Speaker 1: forty minutes. Well. This is another thing I wanted to say,
Speaker 1: is just like when I when I think about like
Speaker 1: like film versus TV, it's like I thought, don't look up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's a good satire. Then I watched
Speaker 1: starch Party season five. That that is a brilliant I mean,
Speaker 1: it honestly not made me like don't look up less.
Speaker 1: But I just compared them as satires of our culture.
Speaker 1: And maybe because like Search Party has been able to
Speaker 1: examine more and get more specific about what they're doing,
Speaker 1: they're able to achieve it in a much better way.
Speaker 1: But I just thought that dwarfed Don't look Up as
Speaker 1: a satire. This last season do you know about it?
Speaker 1: I know about it. I have not started yet because
Speaker 1: I have just been very busy, too busy, and that's
Speaker 1: not a good enough excuse as a true Search Party
Speaker 1: stand hosted the podcast less did I wanted to, like,
Speaker 1: I want to really sit with it. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: fucking knocked it out of the park. I think they
Speaker 1: made insane choices, but and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: people who are decidedly not third graders, but didn't forget
Speaker 1: their inner third grader. They made things happen on this show.
Speaker 1: This show went for it, like you can't even fucking
Speaker 1: imagine it becomes a different genre. It's truly thrilling. But
Speaker 1: that's what Search Party is always that, that's the beauty
Speaker 1: of Search Party. It seemed as genres every fucking season. Yes,
Speaker 1: well they just did it again and then like on
Speaker 1: top of it all being as inventive and creative and
Speaker 1: hilarious as they are. Like the performances are again amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking Aliyah shock Cat should be nominated for
Speaker 1: an Emmy for this. And like John Earl and Meredith Hagner,
Speaker 1: these performances are amazing. John Reynolds like across the board,
Speaker 1: like these they're fucking crushing it. I mean, John is
Speaker 1: so funny on it, Meredith Hagner is so incredible on
Speaker 1: that show, and it's just thematically. It fucking fucking nailed
Speaker 1: it as a series finale. And I'll just say, without
Speaker 1: giving away too much, like this is the big conversation
Speaker 1: about spoiler culture, about when is it okay? Like when
Speaker 1: is it okay to talk about search Party? I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I really don't know. And this is the conversation.
Speaker 1: You're right, not ya, but we won't but we won't
Speaker 1: spoil it here. We won't spoil it here. I just
Speaker 1: I'm over the moon about it. And shout out to Greta,
Speaker 1: shout out to Larry, shout out to Joe Castle Baker,
Speaker 1: shout out to Grace con Schmidt, shout out to like
Speaker 1: so many people on that fucking cast that nailed it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just so good. Josh Sharp, oh
Speaker 1: my god, was amazing in it. Like, just you gotta
Speaker 1: watch Jires, Jeffrey self. I literally I am obsessed with
Speaker 1: the show. Oh, okay, amazing. It is such an incredible show.
Speaker 1: And like I do think, I do think Charles and
Speaker 1: SBR geniuses. I mean true geniuses. It's just wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can I just quickly say euphoria is off to really
Speaker 1: the more anxiety content. It's just the whole episode of
Speaker 1: his anxiety. It's it's almost like it's always been gratuitous.
Speaker 1: It's always you could argue been about style of a
Speaker 1: substance in a way, and like that's fine. The fact
Speaker 1: that you still get these amazing This is the thing
Speaker 1: I want to put an out about Ehooria in my
Speaker 1: mind is that it is it is a show that
Speaker 1: you watch and you go, I don't remember anything that's happened,
Speaker 1: but I remember all these people, which is to say
Speaker 1: that the writing and the storytelling is not super strong
Speaker 1: and has been called week I think. But meanwhile, in
Speaker 1: spite of that, all the actors have incredible performances, and
Speaker 1: I think that is still a show that it's absolutely
Speaker 1: a show worth watching. And then like all these people
Speaker 1: like you know, like I think their household names at
Speaker 1: this point in household but like you knows. And by
Speaker 1: the way, oh my god, Sydney is one of one
Speaker 1: of the greats. I mean, I think she's been anointed,
Speaker 1: but like I mean, White Lotus, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, that's the that's like the quiet, shy
Speaker 1: girl from Euphoria. She's but after White Lotus, I was like, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: Like I loved that character of that performance. She does something.
Speaker 1: She does so many things in this first episode of
Speaker 1: this season that I'm like, Jesus Christ, absolute star, um.
Speaker 1: You will hate it because there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: violence and like it starts out in like a very
Speaker 1: Scorsesey way and it kind of maintains that throughout the
Speaker 1: rest of the episode, where there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: like violence and drugs and like just like crazy ship
Speaker 1: and it's hard to watch. Honestly. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I feel like, my my, I will watch it
Speaker 1: and I will check it out. But it's just like,
Speaker 1: like you've been saying, like so much of media is
Speaker 1: anxious lately that I'm just like, I think that's why
Speaker 1: I gravitate towards a lot of lighter things, just because
Speaker 1: I like so many I don't want to add anxiety
Speaker 1: into my plate. But I'm saying even like and just
Speaker 1: like that is anxiety content now because with what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's like every scene is like I hope I don't
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing. Or do the like and even
Speaker 1: also even that show is killing and destroying. Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: death is suffering everywhere, killing and destroying, like Frieda suffered,
Speaker 1: but it's still that bitch. That isn't just like that
Speaker 1: Carry Bradshaw. She has suffered and she is still that girl.
Speaker 1: Should the title be she has suffered and she is
Speaker 1: still that girl? I think we need some context. So
Speaker 1: either it's power of the dog a Faget his mother,
Speaker 1: or it's Frieda she has suffered, Frieda Colin. She has suffered,
Speaker 1: but the episode is not about freed to. The episode
Speaker 1: theme is she has suffered and she is still that girl. Fine, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I love that as a long
Speaker 1: title for us. Yes, yes, yes, she has suffered and
Speaker 1: she is still that that's us because it's not thank
Speaker 1: you for making me, and she's still instead of but
Speaker 1: she is still because it's not in spite of something.
Speaker 1: It's in addition to mama and maybe even a direct result. Honey, darling, deer,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Tell me what doesn't kill
Speaker 1: you makes you strong? Doesn't when alone? Girl, I think
Speaker 1: it's time to move on. I'm looking at my list here, like,
Speaker 1: what did we miss like, Oh, I didn't tell you
Speaker 1: I watched all of Ted last with my parents, just kidding.
Speaker 1: Yes I did. I'd meant I didn't tell the readers.
Speaker 1: I did. I love that show. Have you watching Project Runway?
Speaker 1: I haven't, but I heard about this house I cha
Speaker 1: this season is amazing and the housewives were on a challenge.
Speaker 1: And I've never screamed before at a Project Runway, um
Speaker 1: final runway, but I was screaming up off my feet,
Speaker 1: screaming the housewives and the and the and the way
Speaker 1: that they wore them. Who was there? It was Wendy, Giselle,
Speaker 1: It was Wendy, Giselle and Karen from it was Sharence
Speaker 1: Storms and um Gina from which, by the way, I
Speaker 1: started watching o C and I'm obsessed. And they picked
Speaker 1: two good ones and from New York it was Leah
Speaker 1: and Lou and so was all of them. And then
Speaker 1: I have to tell you the way that Giselle and
Speaker 1: Lou looked on the runway, and also Shannon, like bo
Speaker 1: when you and look good, they looked amazing. They looked amazing.
Speaker 1: This is the to have the potential of Giselle. If
Speaker 1: you put her in good clothes, she wore this. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you have to watch the episode. Everyone
Speaker 1: just watched the episode of Project Runway this season with
Speaker 1: the Housewives, even if you don't watch it. If you do,
Speaker 1: you know this season is I'm yeah, please, like it
Speaker 1: is so so good. I personally am team Chastity, but
Speaker 1: I also think that Chantelle might win. Okay, but and
Speaker 1: but those are my predictions. But anyway, this episode was
Speaker 1: absolute fire and Wendy gets into it with one of
Speaker 1: the contestants, Christina. I said, Dr Wendy, I don't know, No,
Speaker 1: we have to. She's a former guest. I mean, I
Speaker 1: stand by her. But that got there for me where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, is there going to be
Speaker 1: conflict on the episode between the housewife and the designer?
Speaker 1: And there was and it was our girl, Dr Wendy.
Speaker 1: But I think I agree with her. Okay, And that's
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. All right. Let me see what
Speaker 1: do we think of them? What do we think of
Speaker 1: drag Race? Oh well, obviously we're team Willow Pill and
Speaker 1: team corn Read absolutely. I mean just already the Runaway stars.
Speaker 1: Were there any other contestants? Bosco is going to be interesting.
Speaker 1: I think definitely he's of interest of interest. Um, but
Speaker 1: Cornbread is a superstarread is narrating already, like getting so
Speaker 1: much praise. She she has it all. Willow Phill maybe
Speaker 1: a comedic icon. Someone said this in the group chat
Speaker 1: the other night. But the fact that Willow Hill posts
Speaker 1: like quality means on her stories means means good thing
Speaker 1: means that. Yes, Joe and Booster said that, and I
Speaker 1: mean I think I have. There hasn't been an entrance
Speaker 1: in a while that has stuck with me this way
Speaker 1: where am I the angle shirt and the fact that
Speaker 1: that's how she came into the world. And then you remember,
Speaker 1: remember the remember the part where like in the workroom
Speaker 1: and in the beginning where like her sunglasses kept falling off.
Speaker 1: If you go back and watch that, it's really funny.
Speaker 1: The first time that happens, she goes, oh shit, like
Speaker 1: she says, oh ship and the funniest way. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her. I rewatched her talent like five times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it is so I don't know, it's insane. It's
Speaker 1: almost like a comedy person like hacked drag Race, like
Speaker 1: like a genuine like someone you would see at the
Speaker 1: annoyance theater. I think Dave Mazzoni said that, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very annoyance. It's very annoyance theater like Brooklyn or Chicago,
Speaker 1: whichever you choose. Like I'm like, wow, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: love and then I think god Rule loves it, loves it.
Speaker 1: But like, if you go and look at Willow Hills stories,
Speaker 1: she's she's a funny motherfucker just posting like crazy filters
Speaker 1: on her face be and then just the caption being
Speaker 1: I did weed She's she makes me like there hasn't
Speaker 1: been this. This is my complaint about drag Race for
Speaker 1: the longest time. In the last few seasons, I'm like,
Speaker 1: there hasn't been someone that I'm like, I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with them, Yeah, I want to. I want to,
Speaker 1: Like I look up to them in a way, Like
Speaker 1: I think back on like season five and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I looked up to all of these girls, being like
Speaker 1: I want to like be more like James Monsoon, I
Speaker 1: want to be more like Alaska. Like there hasn't been
Speaker 1: that girl in a while for me. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: But with Willow, she's sucking six and I'm like she
Speaker 1: I have things to learn from her. Absolutely, absolutely. I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I was so transported when she
Speaker 1: did that number, and I'm so happy they let them
Speaker 1: use that and your song, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I was just so taken back to a time
Speaker 1: when I don't know, like we used to watch freak
Speaker 1: performances like that, we used to do like that was
Speaker 1: the era. Yeah, anyway, very yeah, there's like a d
Speaker 1: I y. I don't know if that's the right worry
Speaker 1: way to put it. What else? Oh, we watched Free Guy.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, here's get this. Matt and I got
Speaker 1: really stoned in c DMX with Sudie and Mo. By
Speaker 1: the way, there's been mo erasure on the socials. Fry Passic,
Speaker 1: previous guest of the show was there with us. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: we got stoned one night and watched Tree Guys starting
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds and Jody Comber and Take Awaitt and we
Speaker 1: loved and we loved it. Your girl was crying. I
Speaker 1: was crying at the end. Jody Comber and the dude
Speaker 1: from Stranger Things made me cry. They made me cry,
Speaker 1: chunky tears. No one was really selling it out, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's a very like big budget, like it's a
Speaker 1: Sean Leeby film. I tend to like Sean Leeby films.
Speaker 1: I kind of love Date Night as a movie and
Speaker 1: at the Museum, I confess I haven't seen any of that,
Speaker 1: but this movie I was just like, it just felt
Speaker 1: like really smart, really smart. It took a second for
Speaker 1: us to like buy into the logic of the of
Speaker 1: the World directorial Lee. I think it would have been
Speaker 1: helpful to see them speaking in their your live bodies
Speaker 1: to the screen a couple, just to get across that
Speaker 1: that was how they were communicating with them. But last Ryan,
Speaker 1: you said something about Ryan that I so agree with.
Speaker 1: You were like, he is such an effective comedic performer.
Speaker 1: He's just the best. I mean, he's so specific in
Speaker 1: his movements, the way he knows just how to be
Speaker 1: on camera. He is just an incredibly like like he's
Speaker 1: just a ten out of ten movie actor movie, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He's just like he's always going
Speaker 1: to get across the right emotion. He is just dependable.
Speaker 1: He's funny, he's super cute, and he seems like he
Speaker 1: has a lot of energy, Like he gives a lot
Speaker 1: of energy to every take. And he's just I mean,
Speaker 1: he's one of our best first he's one of our
Speaker 1: best like I told you, right, like Just Friends, he
Speaker 1: has to do so he has a very hard job
Speaker 1: to do on Just Friends. He's one of the actors
Speaker 1: out there who's super handsome, and so he doesn't get
Speaker 1: a lot of the credit for doing this comedy. Yes,
Speaker 1: the wheneber times we've talked about the proposal and sort
Speaker 1: of brushed past Ryan as criminal. We should be putting
Speaker 1: in the institutions. Now he's just he's supposed to be
Speaker 1: on the institution. Okay, I'm saying we should be put
Speaker 1: in the institutions for erasing him. So we need to
Speaker 1: be put in institutions for racing him, and he needs
Speaker 1: to be one of the instant the institutions. And I
Speaker 1: think that that is as good as you can possibly
Speaker 1: say it. Thank you girl, Erica Jane, Erica Jane. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Should we move on? Yeah, let's move on. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is I don't think so, honey. This is our segment
Speaker 1: where were one minute to tackle something in culture or
Speaker 1: something that's really fruiting our loops and I have something
Speaker 1: to have something, you know I do. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many his
Speaker 1: time starts. I don't think so, honey, of the Golden
Speaker 1: Globes um tweeting out the winners and whoever they hired
Speaker 1: to do that and be in charge of that process.
Speaker 1: I believe one of the tweets said, laughs are all
Speaker 1: it takes, and that's my West Side story. When's best
Speaker 1: musical comedy. It's like, it's like, maybe just make sure
Speaker 1: that before it gets I don't know, tweeted out. It
Speaker 1: makes sense, like in terms of like the fucking sheet
Speaker 1: you filled that the dragon drop thing you did for
Speaker 1: whoever Twitter, I don't think so, honey. Also just trying
Speaker 1: to make it sound like announce just we're saying it
Speaker 1: was simply embarrassing, Like here's what you do. Put the
Speaker 1: winner in big font and put the category on little fun.
Speaker 1: We have the information, we got it, We'll take care
Speaker 1: of the celebration. I don't think so, honey, that you
Speaker 1: need to monitor and present in this way. I understand
Speaker 1: that tweets should be funny, but when you're the Golden Globes,
Speaker 1: it's like, just get the information out there, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. We've kind of had enough of like
Speaker 1: what your personalities are, so I don't something so honey,
Speaker 1: and that's one minute. Thank you for addressing this the tweet.
Speaker 1: I believe I will also I'm also paraphrasing, but I
Speaker 1: was if laughter is the best medicine, then West Side
Speaker 1: That at West Side Story the movie is the cure
Speaker 1: for what ails you like it's so funny. I think
Speaker 1: that is one of the That is one of the
Speaker 1: more iconic tweets of the last several years. If you
Speaker 1: over the last five years of watching the Oscars and
Speaker 1: the Golden Glooms haven't gotten it in your head that
Speaker 1: it is all such like they're so stupid, then I
Speaker 1: don't know what to do, because yes, of course they're
Speaker 1: fun to watch and you know, like sort of guess
Speaker 1: about and they're fun to follow. But when you watch
Speaker 1: a ceremony where they can't announce the right winner, wrong
Speaker 1: names of presenters are being said, like this tweet thing
Speaker 1: is happening, like you find out about the lack of diversity,
Speaker 1: and like the fact that it's it is what it is,
Speaker 1: like the bullshit gets unveiled about Harvey y Stein, like
Speaker 1: you we have to be able to laugh at this ship.
Speaker 1: It is such a circle jerk, but it is fun.
Speaker 1: It is fun to follow. I guess I am just
Speaker 1: I was about to say like a similar thing to
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say to what I said about
Speaker 1: and just like that where I'm like, I do miss
Speaker 1: the days when I didn't know all that. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: like I did take it seriously and now there's no
Speaker 1: going back. But that's because we got older and learned more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have something. I love to hear that you have something.
Speaker 1: My phone is over there. I'm just gonna grab because
Speaker 1: I don't want to make my sister, who I'm very
Speaker 1: afraid of, because you should literally see them right now.
Speaker 1: They like Erica Jane Girardi. They look like Erica Girardi.
Speaker 1: Literally the house down the way. They're looking at it
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna get my phone. Get your phone. Okay,
Speaker 1: hopefully he doesn't kill me. Um, okay, I have the
Speaker 1: clock up. Do you have your I don't think the
Speaker 1: funny topic I do. I love that this is things
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey, his time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Licorice pizza using being the latest
Speaker 1: thing to like use an Asian accent as a play
Speaker 1: for laughs. Like, I get that all of the adult
Speaker 1: male figures in this movie are supposed to be like
Speaker 1: ridiculous and despicable and he should not want to be
Speaker 1: like them, and that all of his adult male figures
Speaker 1: in his life are like awful people. But the fact
Speaker 1: that this was used as a runner is what kind
Speaker 1: of gets to me the most. Like there was there
Speaker 1: at least two times when it came back, like or
Speaker 1: when it was like a beat where like he's trying
Speaker 1: to speak an Asian gibberish language to like his new
Speaker 1: Japanese wife. It's like that bullshit thing of like everyone
Speaker 1: thinking that like Asian people are the last race you
Speaker 1: can make fun of. I will. I'm here to say
Speaker 1: that the thing that white people are the least creative about,
Speaker 1: the number one thing they're the least creative about, it
Speaker 1: is Asian jokes. It is joking or making light of
Speaker 1: Asian people in the way they talk and the way
Speaker 1: they look. Like it's enough enough, let's just like move past.
Speaker 1: This is not to be all like hashtag stop Asian
Speaker 1: hate has up in one minute, yes, but yes, but
Speaker 1: like it's just like why are we It's taking me
Speaker 1: out of it and why can't I just enjoy Danielle
Speaker 1: Hime's exquisite acting as a supporting character, and of course
Speaker 1: Allana is amazing. I was just like kind of like
Speaker 1: I hate to be like Asian Police, but I kind
Speaker 1: of was like in my chair at the theater, like,
Speaker 1: well that sucks, and now I have to like spend
Speaker 1: the next fifteen minutes like re calibrating to this because
Speaker 1: I got so thrown by that by fucking John Michael
Speaker 1: Higgins doing that insane thing. I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was I don't know if it was p T. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was John Michael Higgins. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like they like cast the fun these fucking
Speaker 1: Japanese people to be in it, and like this was
Speaker 1: very intentional and like this is like very specifically executed,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, well, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a good enough reason that like p T a grew
Speaker 1: up in l A with Japanese restaurants in his life.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't know. I love him
Speaker 1: as a director. I think I really enjoyed the movie.
Speaker 1: It just really was this thing that like kind of
Speaker 1: like soured the whole thing for me. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of our friends like it's later bird but for
Speaker 1: boys or like said that, I mean I like it
Speaker 1: as a coming of age movie. Yeah great. I just
Speaker 1: it was this thing where like I hate that it's
Speaker 1: being played for last in this way like I don't
Speaker 1: think it's an accident that I think like PTO probably
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, let's do it, let's roll, like, let's
Speaker 1: this is what I want. Okay, cool cut, let's move on,
Speaker 1: like he was very okay with it in a way
Speaker 1: that I'm like, that sucks anyway. I haven't wanted to
Speaker 1: see it because of that, because of the central relationship,
Speaker 1: like like an upset to that, Like it doesn't upset me.
Speaker 1: It just like why is she twenty four? And within?
Speaker 1: Like do we need that for the story? I don't.
Speaker 1: I have to. I should see it. I definitely should
Speaker 1: see it, but all I know is like everything I
Speaker 1: hear about it, I don't love. Okay, Yeah, it is
Speaker 1: a great moment to see the hid sister is sort
Speaker 1: of act down that I would love to see more
Speaker 1: of them film. We need for the success. We need
Speaker 1: the on screen. We need the mon screen. Benny Safty
Speaker 1: iconic legend. We loved did we love Bradley? We loved
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper, Bradley was funny. Bradley was funny. But again,
Speaker 1: like Bradley, Bradley is like sort of, I don't know,
Speaker 1: portrayal of masculinity is like very specific to that era,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that it's like specific to that
Speaker 1: era that like John Michaelhiggins would be like someone who's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm I'm just like literally, Matt, there's
Speaker 1: like like for at least like three exchanges, Like it's
Speaker 1: John Michaelhiggins and his wife talking to the main character's
Speaker 1: mom who is like trying to like write copy or
Speaker 1: something for their restaurant, and he's translating to her and
Speaker 1: like speaking this like psycho Japanese gibberish. And then like
Speaker 1: three like like three lines later, the moms like what
Speaker 1: is she saying? Or what are you saying? And he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I have no idea, I don't know the language. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck why are we doing this? There' that's
Speaker 1: not that's not a snap it's not it's not like
Speaker 1: it's a snapshot of the era. It's not like it's
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not like it's saying that something
Speaker 1: universe little universal about adulthood or masculinity. It's like it's
Speaker 1: just in essence, an Asian joke. Baldly put out, there
Speaker 1: is an Asian joke. Yeah, that's very odd. Anyway, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I think that we have an enemy of the Oscar
Speaker 1: Race and Thomas Anderson. It's Paul Thomas. It's pizza and
Speaker 1: it's like crish pizza. And this year we're setting our
Speaker 1: crosshairs on you. You're going down readers and publicists. Your
Speaker 1: job not like licorice pizza deal. Get the word out there.
Speaker 1: We don't like it. Do it or you're fired. Sink
Speaker 1: this film in the Oscar Race. Now, get out there
Speaker 1: and do it. The Oscar Race is what everyone cares about.
Speaker 1: It's the only real thing in this town. Fuck it
Speaker 1: up for us, now, I decree. And that's more than say.
Speaker 1: To decree is more than saying it's a real culture.
Speaker 1: Number is more more than say, girl, the power you
Speaker 1: are sitting in is really really beautiful. Whatever are we in?
Speaker 1: Not charsards but corn silk, corn silk, girl, girl. I
Speaker 1: just am excited to go into this year with you
Speaker 1: for another year of culture, talking to guests and we
Speaker 1: have some fun guests coming, and to really react to
Speaker 1: the news of the day. I can't wait to just
Speaker 1: sit back and see what happens next in this crazy
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